⚙・modding-general

[lean dune]

or rather, how does it behave?

[fallow bramble]

The first mult isn't recognized

Vanishes the moment I discard something cuz it reaches below 1 ofc so it's not a visual desc bug

[lean dune]

try Xmult instead of x_mult in your joker config

that's what ramen is defined with, at least

[fallow bramble]

I can't believe that worked...

I had a previous joker who had "x_mult" in its config and it worked fine too.

[lean dune]

yeah the code is that jank

set_ability definition

[fallow bramble]

Thank you so much for the help, wasted half a day on this issue lol 👍

[rigid jewel]

Wait, what is the set_ability definition?

I remember seeing it in Steamodded when browsing joker.lua

WAIT WHEN COULD YOU MAKE SPECRAL CARDS???

WHEN WAS THIS API ADDED

[lean dune]

since 0.9

which is not quite released yet

#1221067013183766568 is what all this is based on

[lean dune]

for the most part, it initializes a center's ability table

it's not the function you'll need to patch into the most, but it can be useful to be able to if you need some custom values set up

[rigid jewel]

ah

[cinder sage]

on a scale from 1 to 10 how do these look

[lyric spear]

8.23004/10

[iron juniper]

Ooo

[lyric spear]

000/10??? Mann...

[iron juniper]

Yep sorry, 000/10

Nah I quite like them!

Interested in what the green cards do

[cinder sage]

oh it's gold+steel

i wasn't reall sure how to combine their designs otherwise

[iron juniper]

Ahh, I probably should have guessed, though I really like the look of that!

[merry field]

9/10

is there any mod that enables you to convert a joker into an eternal joker?

[modern kiln]

Ok homies, I'm working on custom editions

is this anywhere close to viable or is the flickering too distracting?

[merry field]

distracting

[vestal crag]

Too flickery.

[iron juniper]

Too flickery for my eyes

[modern kiln]

well that answers that question!

[mossy palm]

hey everyone, what's the preferred mod framework?

I've a mod ready (a proper run history) but I don't know what's the best framework to use, maybe implement a solution for each and let the user decide?

[supple cypress]

is there a seed exploration tool? like chunkbase for minecraft where you put in a seed and it tells you where all the villages are

[mossy palm]

you might be able to edit https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209513992519946250

[pearl belfry]

I think you could give them a platinum palette, which could be higher highlight contrast and a slight purple/blue tone

[mossy palm]

bit of teasing

[iron juniper]

Been looking for something like this as well, I know Immolate does the raw seed searching

[supple cypress]

maybe ill try to make something

[lean dune]

it'd be best to use lovely, as it will remain compatible with any loader

[mossy palm]

thanks!

[lean dune]

np

[coral shale]

Damn, I just yesterday prototyped a hand history mod, I guess it's deprecated before release 🤣 Looks detailed and polished 🔥

[mossy palm]

might be complementary, this only tracks game state at the end of a run, so I don't have a hand history

[coral shale]

Ohhh

I saw the history of blinds and assumed

[mossy palm]

the only thing I'm tracking is the blinds as there is no place where we can get this information

[coral shale]

Fair enough, I'll keep at it then 😄

[mossy palm]

I might add that in the stats (bottom right), you can make a PR when I release it 🙂

[scenic surge]

Yo that's really cool!

I've been browsing the modding channels and damn there's a LOT of creativity up there! I might try my hand at it one day, but I'd rather wait for mods to be officially supported

[lean dune]

Official support wouldn't change much at this point tbh, just having steam workshop as a platform

now is as good a time as any

[scenic surge]

Well I'm finding excuses to not do it since I have to work on my degree lol

[lean dune]

oh lol

[scenic surge]

But also I'm not really sure where to start, especially since there are two mod loaders and I have no idea what would be better

[stone brook]

hey guys, need some input. would you be miffed if you unlocked a joker through a Rare joker that gave a huge variety of rewards? i.e you havent seen cavendish but the joker gave you cavendish even if you havent ||destroyed a gros michel|| <- putting that in spoiler just in case

[white scarab]

Something along the lines of my analyzer.cl filter should be a great place to start, it prints info about a seed but does that in the command line

[fallow bramble]

Basic tip is checking other's mods and the source code itself

[stone brook]

actually, a better example might be getting legendary jokers even when youve never seen soul

[modern kiln]

things are going amazing over here

[supple cypress]

whats it written in? c?

[iron juniper]

I'm no modding expert, but I think something might be slightly off

[fallow bramble]

Corrupted card question mark

[modern kiln]

I am no modding expert and I completely agree

[modern kiln]

hmmmm

rare joker that is super helpful but has a chance to corrupt cards in your deck that subtract from your chips/mult when in your hand?

[white scarab]

OpenCL

[iron juniper]

What's the syntax for running the analyzer filter?

[rare shell]

wait, you just doing the shader for edition or you actually already implemented edition as a separate thing?

[lean dune]

Bal tro

[summer mango]

Is it okay to discuss my desire to know the score of a hand before playing it? I often get in situations like: I have 2 hands left

• I can play a full house that is clearly enough to win
• But if I play a single card from it as a hand first I'll get a major advantage say levelling up a card forever which is worth more than the hand
• And I probably could then play the leftover two pair and win

I can absolutely take two or three minutes to calculate the scores exactly and that's what I do now. That is, I'm really trying to win. Or I could Yolo. What do you guys do? Rubs take a long time and I hate to lose one dumbly. Yet if I play it safe I'm clearly not really very good.

If I had my choice I'd obviously use a function to display currently selected hand score to make the decision. Ie a toggle so that when you select a hand the current amount it would score is shown.

Id still have to arrange jokers in the right order, arrange cards, and have thought of this hand strategy in the first place. And I know this may not match the creators personal play style. But its annoying to have to constantly stop in vital situations like this and calculate things. Is this a thing you all wabt? It's the mod I'm here looking for.

[dapper helm]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1221215713910325330

[lean dune]

we do have #1221215713910325330, bit it's really prone to incompatiblility with other mods

[stone brook]

bumping this because i need to know the answer for what im working on

[modern kiln]

sort of both - I'm trying out shaders that are being implemented as a new card edition

[rare shell]

I'm asking because I always wanted to check if someone else knew how to implement editions (their functional side), I had no luck with these, and I only just saw your shader 😅

[coral shale]

It's being worked on 👀 I'm basically rewriting the whole thing lol

[lean dune]

goated

[lost solar]

personally i wouldnt be miffed

[digital lily]

does it display tags instead of small/big blinds when skipping?

[mossy palm]

yes it does!

[digital lily]

oh and can you see the deck

is it like a button

also tbh the consumable section could be replaced with smth else

incredible work either way

[mossy palm]

Full deck is available in the "Stats", bottom right, along with full stats (what you see at the end of a run) and hands

[digital lily]

cool

you should make the vouchers section extend further left since consumables are usually in amount of 0-2

[mossy palm]

I had a long thinking about it and it does belong here when using one of the legendary joker and one of the vouchers

[digital lily]

thats just 1 joker

[mossy palm]

Might reduce the size to 1/3

[digital lily]

yeah that would work

great mod idea i love it

[mossy palm]

we might have some run that breaks the layout, that's what I will be tracking when releasing

we will be able to share runs (a run is just a file) for debug purpose

[digital lily]

is any of this data tracked but not displayed by default?

or did you implement recording more data in the mod itself

[merry field]

this

[mossy palm]

yes, I basically save the game state

the displayed run file size is 82K

forgot to mention, when you go into endless mode, it does save it under another run file for review
here is the same run, but in endless (after a loss)

I only display blinds after the final boss (ante 8)

[digital lily]

even at 6 vouchers it gets cramped thats why i suggested the change

also add functionality for displaying which challenge youre playnig

[mossy palm]

challenge and seeded runs won't be recorded for the moment

[mossy palm]

here you go

[digital lily]

lookin good

really forcing localthunk to step up his game

[mossy palm]

I don't see it like this, I see it as a community effort to improve the game as they like, even after the game is technically "done"

plenty of content is being made by the community for localthunk to sit back and see the community grows around a game they made, that's the most proud you can be

[digital lily]

i mean, hes still working on the game

[tepid sentinel]

Dont all the games get ultra buffed with mod content even if they are "finished" or the best game there is?

[mossy palm]

yes, and that's cool!

[mossy palm]

that's what keeps most "old" games alive 🙂

[tepid sentinel]

exactly, we are not "pressuring" anyone, in this case thunk, its just the way itll always be, and, theres hundreds of modders, but thunk is by himself, its logical to think modders will be able to get out more content in the same period of time

[stone brook]

thankss for the reply :3

[fallow bramble]

Final version of the burger, kinda proud of the sprite

[crisp jasper]

looorge burger

it's excellent spritework, great job!

[fallow bramble]

Thanks!

[exotic shadow]

does balatro handle the scroll wheel in any way anywhere?

[lean dune]

don't think so

[stone brook]

i think technically love does, but it doesnt do anything

[exotic shadow]

ok thanks

[stone brook]

yea try love.wheelmoved(x, y)

[fallow bramble]

Might make the burger money based since mult, chips and x mult already exists

[lean dune]

inverse rocket at that point

[fallow bramble]

Looked at some mods for refs and found out JellyMod already has something like that named Caviar 😔

[modern kiln]

um...

[fallow bramble]

I wouldn't want to be your Ace card with what you're doing to them

[exotic shadow]

fun

[modern kiln]

trying to give this a boiling animation of sorts:

[sleek granite]

ah, a preview of my nightmares

[modern kiln]

oh god now it jiggles

[stone brook]

my favourite kind of shader: dying gpu

[sleek granite]

ok so i got it to show up literally at all

[fallow bramble]

3

[sleek granite]

yeah im trying to do something that every fiber of this game's code is resisting every step of the way and none of it works and my computer is on fire

[modern kiln]

ok homies

speaking of fire

[exotic shadow]

kinda reminds me of a noddle covered in sauce

but pretty neat

[modern kiln]

you are correct, that most resembles a sauce covered penne noodle

[exotic shadow]

ok now make a noodle joker that has no effect other than just turning this shader on to all cards when bought

[modern kiln]

you may be joking but this would actually be a great exercise and change of pace after staring at shader code for 8 hours

[exotic shadow]

I'm only like 25% joking

[sleek granite]

so 'dummy' does equal 'dummy' when the game is loading but not when the deck is being viewed
man i love programming

[modern kiln]

keep your eyes peeled for my "Balatro Cooking" mod, where instead of making poker hands, you make dinner

[arctic bough]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-me-when-looking-stare-are-you-serious-gif-11132620111287096186

[arctic bough]

i could think of like different types of burgers like double patty, veggie and they all provide different stats

[sleek granite]

alright yeah im giving up on this, if it's not the Same String Not Equalling Itself then it's P_CARDS Is Wholly And Totally Immutable For Some Reason

[fallow bramble]

Yea that's what I'm going for, hopefully that doesn't exist yet either

[lean dune]

have you touched SMODS.Card.SUITS at all?

[sleek granite]

yeah

i switched to just defining the dummy suit properly

figured i could just do that for now til a proper "non-card-registering" method is added

the card i add still causes the game to implode

[lean dune]

I'll try and add something like a None suit down the line

[sleek granite]

even though i start it from a deep copy of one of the cards the suit registering function creates

and since i don't touch its suit it should be the same

and it just... ISNT

and random parts of the code just stop working for no reason

[lean dune]

could you send the code you have so far over to me?

[sleek granite]

i got it to make a copy of one of the cards but it stopped being able to have a custom sprite... even though no part of that changed...

[lean dune]

that's weird...

[supple cypress]

only true balatro heads understand the importance of 1.1239285023

[sleek granite]

yeah none of it makes sense or works

[modern kiln]

do we like this, do we not?

[supple cypress]

magma-ed

[lean dune]

don't fry my jokers

[sleek granite]

that is very cool, maybe a bit bright

[supple cypress]

its a bit intense

[iron juniper]

A bit bright, but looks very cool

[hardy brook]

Make a real version of that burger

[modern kiln]

ok tone down brightness, on it

[hardy brook]

What's this?

Been working on the archiving process

[modern kiln]

I'm working on creating custom shaders for cards, hoping for a firey, burning effect

[hardy brook]

How do you test the shaders?

At least outside the game

[modern kiln]

I made a deal with a devil named trial and error

[hardy brook]

oh

fair

[modern kiln]

I tried doing stuff in shadertoy but it's difficult to translate between it and the .fs format

[supple cypress]

hmm
for reverse engineering the card generation algorithm, would I have to use the precise value of pi used in the hasing algorithm?

cause if im too precise or too imprecise the hash would probably be different

im just gonna use C#'s implementation of pi and yolo it

[lean dune]

I ain't got brain power for this right now, but I'll see what I can make work

[sleek granite]

dont feel bad i aint got brain power ever

idk why i thought this was something possible or reasonable to attempt to do

[noble sinew]

Can anyone help me with this? No idea what's causing it

[rigid jewel]

A true developer...

[lean dune]

Looks like you have both balamod and steamodded on at the same time?

might be an issue relating to that

from the looks of it, something's breaking between Blind Collection Patch on Steamodded and Deck creator on balamod

[orchid vault]

modded balatro being weird once again

never mix mods together if you want a coherent experience

i dont even know how that happened

i bet if i play the card its gonna crash the game

[lean dune]

thanks i hate it

[orchid vault]

surprisingly it didnt

it treated it like a regular card

[grand geode]

OH I SEE WHY THIS IS HAPPENING

just make a new run

[tired ibex]

the

[grand geode]

I'll fix this in a bit

[orchid vault]

i tried to play the next blind and it instantly crashed

reminds me of the glitch where you could add planet cards to your deck

[grand geode]

and by a bit i mean a few hours

[iron juniper]

The number of mods I install for my games is always "Yes"

[noble sinew]

new run def fixed it, thank you

[haughty hinge]

mine is "not enough"

[grand geode]

it's trying to load the atlas field of the current blind which is non-existent

[viscid spear]

what does this effect do?

[grand geode]

though that part of the code is now unused

[modern kiln]

what do you think it should do

[haughty hinge]

Im currently brainstorming ideas for a Balatro: Board Games Edition(not an actual board game just with board game stuff)

I have forgotten most board games lmao

[viscid spear]

gives x2 mult and 1/4 chance to go extinct maybe?

[modern kiln]

you and I are thinking along the same lines

[exotic shadow]

yeah it looks like they are super heated

[modern kiln]

you guys really wanna know the plan?

[haughty hinge]

i want orange dna to be called rna

just cause

[viscid spear]

yea

[orchid vault]

imagine a mod where jokers could be fused

[exotic shadow]

I think someone was working on that

[orchid vault]

like DNA plus burnt joker = first discarded card of every round gets cloned

or blueprint + brainstorm = copies joker to the right and far left

[modern kiln]

@iron onyx is your person

[orchid vault]

just checked some of his sent messages, and hell yeah im downloading that mod when it comes out

[modern kiln]

I was thinking it would be cool to have four legendary jokers that apply a different edition to scored cards in certain circumstances - and these would all be based on different ways real life playing cards might get destroyed. So fire obviously, water, perhaps wind, perhaps mud, perhaps ice - and the editions they apply give buffs that also make the cards worse/destroy the cards over time

[haughty hinge]

maybe orange blue joker gives mult based on how many cards are in the deck by the end of the round

[modern kiln]

open to ideas about this whole thing of course

[iron onyx]

problem is, burnt joker is already a thing

[modern kiln]

you mean like the discard to upgrade joker?

[iron onyx]

yes

i'm just saying the obvious name for a fire-damaged joker is taken

[modern kiln]

well I'm going for something pretty radically different game mechanics-wise so as long as it's just a naming issue I can work with that

[iron onyx]

yeah, it's just a naming issue

maybe something like "scorched joker"

[exotic shadow]

molten joker

[iron onyx]

at this point, i'll open a forum for it

[orchid vault]

yeah i'd love to see your progress

[stone brook]

if its legendary, it should be a name, rather than [adjective] joker

[iron onyx]

the main idea was just to condense cards with similar effects

[hardy brook]

Yeaaaah

I got a lot of text for this Archived project

[near tulip]

is there a way i can look at the source code of the game? i want to see how RNG works

[rare shell]

open balatro.exe with 7zip or equivalent

[left ivy]

so um, I skipped past the seed and Ive been searching for smthin like this seed for a while. is their any way to save this?

[rich star]

is that a Bad Apple Joker? wtf

[orchid vault]

added in most recent jellymod update

also i love how you didnt even question the deck viewer literally being in my hand

[left ivy]

nah thats normal

[rich star]

new buff to stone cards (?)

[strong falcon]

Why does context.after get triggered twice?

[rapid epoch]

I'm trying to imagine what it would be like if you combined the Notes suit, the SixSuits suits (Star + Moon), and the Ink and Color suits mod

Literally more modded suits than base

[blissful basin]

200+ cards to start with

[rapid epoch]

I hope you weren't planning to play any flushes

Spectrum would be easy at least

[blissful basin]

spectrum five is fun

my own current deck

[tepid sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-meme-gif-23690530

[left ivy]

Niceee

[blissful basin]

its missing 8 suits from my mod and the musical suit due to a weird bug i'm getting with it

[tepid sentinel]

does anybody have any experience using Love in a mod to transform Nodes?

[exotic shadow]

Wdym?

[fickle elbow]

i updated the texture for my suits i see that you have an older version installed

[left ivy]

I cant grab the seed anymore normally cause I lost and forgot to get the seed

[exotic shadow]

Is there a save file still?

[blissful basin]

i had noticed you where updating them, but i had not realised you had pushed the update

[left ivy]

nope

[exotic shadow]

What does esc do in this context?

[left ivy]

?

as in escape game?

[exotic shadow]

The keyboard key

[fickle elbow]

i probably wont update again for a couple of days i plan on adding a few more jokers and the codes going to take a while but the current version has 2 jokers/tarot cards/blinds and the updated textures of the suits

[left ivy]

nothing

[exotic shadow]

I don't think you can do anything then

[blissful basin]

well i do plan to incorporate compatibility for your suits into my own mod once i am done drawing all these face cards

[exotic shadow]

Cause even if the game still knows it, you couldn't access it without installing another mod

[left ivy]

true

[exotic shadow]

Maybe if you have the debug mode mode you can open the debug mode menu and win

[left ivy]

welp time to find the god seed again

[hardy brook]

How many suit mods are you using!?

Good grief!

[exotic shadow]

Maybe I should make a mod to store the last seeds you saw

[blissful basin]

rattlingsnows ink and color suits, aures moon and star suits. and 5/13 of the suits from my WIP version of infini-suits

[hardy brook]

Oh geez

[fickle elbow]

im modding my suits with the moons and star suits installed

for also compatibility

[blissful basin]

i had the foolish plan of making custom face cards. so its taking quite a while to do

and i'll need to make two more face cards for each other suit i'm going to support

[rapid epoch]

Holy fuck

I can't believe that actually works

[fallow bramble]

At last, peak burger

[rapid epoch]

B u r g

[blissful basin]

its smaller than my earlier run when i had all the suits that i have not made face cards for. which was 20 suits total

[rapid epoch]

Call your deck the Clogged Toilet
Cause brother

It don't Flush

[blissful basin]

i did manage a flush somehow

[rapid epoch]

what

damn

would be funny to have perkeo cloning a lovers card so you just steadily make the deck more flexible

[blissful basin]

weirdly perkeo is the one legandary i have not gotten yet

[boreal ibex]

im trying to download steamodded but my browser keeps saying "virus detected" and not letting me download

anyone know what to do?

[boreal ibex]

(moving to the steamodded thread)

[noble sinew]

this is sick af

[dapper helm]

lmfao

[tepid sentinel]

anyone has experience manipulating game objects using Love?

[wraith stream]

Does anyone know how to get a reference to any UIbox using get_UIE_by_ID when the reference isn't stored anywhere convenient?

Is there a global UI element that is the root of all others?

[wide atlas]

Imagine trying to get a flush

[sleek granite]

13^2 deck, blue joker when

[tepid sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-my-dishes-my-dishes-gimme-my-dishes-meme-dishes-gif-25969177

[blissful basin]

🤷‍♀️

[sleek granite]

tfw windows is free as long as you deal with the watermark

[tepid sentinel]

hahahahaha i just saw it when i was showing it to a friend

[tepid sentinel]

totally true

[blissful basin]

not buying win10 for a third time

[sleek granite]

i didnt buy it the first time

[boreal ibex]

so i downloaded steamodded, now how do i put mods in the game?

[dapper helm]

put mods in the mods folder located at C:\Users\YourUsername\AppData\Roaming\Balatro
if one doesn't exist then make one named Mods

[boreal ibex]

see i did that but it didnt work

i made the folder and put the sixsuits mod in there, but it doesnt work

oh weird

i think the injector didnt actually do it the first time

yup

injector just didnt run the first time

ran it again and now it works

[lunar fable]

why do i keep my hand levels?

[wild thunder]

where is three pair

[lunar fable]

from #1218775422066622585 mod

[rigid jewel]

Steamodded 0.9.1 dropped btw

[tacit mountain]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/releases/tag/0.9.1

It will take me less time to do the releases once the github action workflow is ready

[modern kiln]

yay!

[tacit mountain]

But Nuitka is not complying... So this release was once again done manually

Updated on thuderstore as well: https://thunderstore.io/c/balatro/p/Steamopollys/Steamodded/versions/

• the depth for files search have been extended to 3, it should help you to better organize your mod packages for r2mm. I changed the path of example mods to avoid them getting injected when on a lovely setup. I might rework the loader.lua later to avoid Steamodded trying to load himself.

[modern kiln]

@tacit mountain @lean dune just tried to update, any ideas what the fix is here?

macos manual install (no lovely)

nvm I figured it out, I think it was because I had an existing mods folder and it didn't like that

[white scarab]

FiveOfAFlush mod doesn't work, it uses a really old API that was removed

[grand geode]

wowie federapi integrated

ig BlindCollectionPatch is no longer needed so i dont have to fix my shit lma

[rare shell]

thats yuge

[sleek granite]

yippee big update

so is it now a shorter list of things we cant do than can? lol

[grand geode]

you have always been able to add those

it's just easier now

[sleek granite]

unfortunately, i am dumb

[modern kiln]

has anyone tried steamodded 9.1 yet with mods that make use of it? I tried it with Mikas and my own mod and it appears to break, but didn't with previous version

Jelly's Mod seems to work but it doesn't use the end_calculate_context function which I think is part of the problem

[rigid jewel]

The joker calculate function was screwed with

[modern kiln]

That’s what I was worried about

[rigid jewel]

This makes me cry inside

(self isn't used else it'll crash)

[modern kiln]

I just decided to take the rest of the night off and hope they fix it tomorrow

[jovial hornet]

Any ideas why the mod called Chose Joker First Shop Doesnt Work Guys?

[crisp jasper]

it's working on my end, I used it this run because i wanted to try a certain synergy with a different joker in a seed and had no issues

is the joker in the collection not turning negative when you hover over it and press f4, or?...

[jovial hornet]

Yes, joker doesnt turn negative when pressing f4 and joker doesnt appear on the shop

[karmic geode]

hi, some kind of error caused me to lose some progress and im wondering if there's a save editor/some method of save editing i can use to get it back?

[lapis jay]

how is burgi not a basegame joker

[fallow bramble]

How nice to wake up to this...

[lapis jay]

puts a bean in the game but not a burger smh

[fallow bramble]

brurgrer

[lapis jay]

im still waiting for that dunkaccino joker mod

https://tenor.com/view/dunkaccino-gif-18205607506425537316

[modern kiln]

Should I delete?

[fallow bramble]

No I mean it's just sad seeing the new version this unstable

Then again it's said it would be on their git

[rare shell]

I mean don't update yet

[fallow bramble]

Yea I won't

[modern kiln]

It’s all good in my view, they’re doing this for free and don’t owe us anything, I’m grateful for all the hard work 🙂

[rare shell]

The update page has that disclaimer for a reason

It's as shrimple as that

Amen to that too

[fallow bramble]

🙏

[lapis jay]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-shrimps-food52-louisiana-bbq-shrimp-seafood-yummy-gif-16978041

shrimple

[rare shell]

I know there's already a couple of commits in queue rn IIRC

[fallow bramble]

Nice

[rare shell]

https://tenor.com/view/simple-shrimple-shrimple-meme-its-really-that-shrimple-shrimple-gif-gif-26259870

It's the balatro mod cycle

During daytime for America we release the commits, then all the folks in Europe despair during their daytime looking at the code

[fallow bramble]

Funny european trolling

Will the git have FederAPI mod examples as well? (or it's already the case?)

[rare shell]

You'll probably see a good example of implementation when https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1221916334372290620 gets a public release up

[fallow bramble]

Oh neat

[rare shell]

Musical suits is worth checking too

[cobalt moth]

Is there a line of code that depicts the odds of a negative joker showing up? Been looking for a while, I might just be dumb

[modern kiln]

don't ask me to explain exactly what's happening here but I'm pretty sure it's this

common_events

[iron onyx]

assuming the wiki can be trusted, these are the odds

[lean dune]

looks to not be accurate

[grand geode]

yup, not accurate

[hybrid sleet]

According to this code the odds are :
Negative 0,3%
Polychrome 0,6%
Holographic 2%
Foil 4%

[lean dune]

yep

[iron onyx]

i see

[grand geode]

playing cards from boosters are double that without negative

[iron onyx]

and you actually DON'T want to take hone or glow-up

[lean dune]

wait no

that's not how that works

[iron onyx]

or wait

it doesn't matter

[lean dune]

yeah the wiki is accurate

[iron onyx]

because negative is rolled first

[grand geode]

wait hm

[lean dune]

poly rate is 0.6%-0.3%, which is 0.3%

these don't stack

[hybrid sleet]

Oh yeah mb I only read the bottom of the code

[lean dune]

So the wiki is right

[hybrid sleet]

Yeah the wiki is right

[grand geode]

i am bad at reading code

[hybrid sleet]

I don't know how to read 💀

[iron onyx]

what values does the game_edition_rate have?

oh yeah that's what it is

[grand geode]

hone doubles the edition_rate but technically the odds are increased more than double

[iron onyx]

this isn't single-spin odds

[grand geode]

edition_poll is rolled only once

[iron onyx]

ah yeah, what i meant was moreso

it can't be polychrome if it's negative

can't be holo if it's poly

can't be foil if it's holo

[grand geode]

yeah that's why i said more than double

poly 0.3% -> 0.9%

[lean dune]

yep, but it's only poly odds that increase more than double

base 0.3%
hone 0.9%
glow up 2.1%

[grand geode]

holo 1.4% > 2.8%
foil 2% > 4%

yeaa you right

[lean dune]

except that's also not true if something is prevented from being negative - I'm not so sure where that happens though

only thing I can think of off the top of my head is wheel of fortune

[grand geode]

only playing cards

wheel/aura/whatever is calculated differently

[lean dune]

ah i see

so playing card poly rate is 0.6%

[grand geode]

playing cards are doubled by default

1.2% 2.4% 6% poly

[lean dune]

base rate*

[grand geode]

i think

[runic kraken]

If i were to add tarot cards to my mod, what style is better?
Keeping the style of my modded jokers, or using the vanilla style?

[lean dune]

oh gosh, a jimbo tarot

[hardy brook]

What do you think feels better?

[runic kraken]

i mean, it depends. the modded style catches your eye faster if mixed in with vanilla cards.
But they might look out of place

[hardy brook]

Okay but which one do you like more?

That’s all that matters

[runic kraken]

I like both, but I think i have to see them ingame to make a decision

[hardy brook]

Yeah. I’d say make a copy and do that

Or just make a quick texture pack and test in game that way

[fallow bramble]

Is it possible for a Joker, in a card area context that's not before or after, to return multiple messages instead of just one?

[grand pollen]

I was thinking about how a streamer I watch tried to tell me debuffed cards are the spawn of Satan and I really don't think they're always that evil. How would I go about making a custom challenge that makes everything debuffed

[runic kraken]

I would like to know too,

function fakemessage(_message,_card,_colour)
    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({        
        func = function() card_eval_status_text(_card, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = _message, colour = _colour}); return true
        end}))
    return
end

I added this function to my mod to send more messages, but they only show up after everything else, so not really that useful

[grand geode]

at the start of the run iterate through the deck and debuff any necessary cards

[knotty fable]

Great joker idea a joker that eats the value of all other jokers towards its own value and mult..... Based off the sin of greed

[grand geode]

and override the debuff function which undebuffs every card as it is called after every boss blind

[fallow bramble]

By 'at the end' you mean after the last Joker effect?

[lean dune]

actually you don't need to do that

[grand geode]

oh?

[lean dune]

if you look at the double or nothing challenge, there's a perma_debuff property you can set on a card's ability table

[runic kraken]

Im still not sure if i like the vanilla style or my modded style more

[grand geode]

ah

well there ya go

[runic kraken]

after scoring is completly done

[knotty fable]

Bad joker idea.... Based on the amount of negative jokers u have the worse its own ability is.... So say it does 6x by time u have 3 negatives it has something like 2.5x

[fallow bramble]

Yea won't do sadly

@runic kraken Yea if it's not achievable you can just write your own message, Mika did that for one of the joker

[tepid sentinel]

anyone here has manipulated an UIbox using Löve?

[sleek granite]

find one thing wrong with this picture (you cant)

[lean dune]

looks alright to me...

what'd you do this time

[tepid sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-meme-gif-23690530

[sleek granite]

well the real question is why the hell is it high card

[hard grove]

the obvious is the 11s,12s and 13s
but I also notice you have discarded more card then possible with 4 discards (both vouchers)
and it's ante 1 anyway so you can't have both discard voucheres

[hard grove]

also that

completely missed that

[sleek granite]

i didn't do anything funky with discards. you sure you did the math right?

white stake on red deck lol

[lean dune]

27 cards drawn

8 at start of round and 5 out of the 1 hand played leaves 14

[sleek granite]

8 that im holding, and im down 1 hand and 3 discards yeah

[lean dune]

which works for 3 discards

nothing wrong there

[sleek granite]

also ewwww this sorting (extremely minor)

[lean dune]

damn

try setting face_nominal to 0.5 on your 11s

[sleek granite]

i can give that a go, right after i figure out how to fix the function that was previously crashing when selecting two 11s, 12s, or 13s

[lean dune]

i kept the original face_nominal for aces at 0.5 even though it no longer collides in terms of nominal

but that is the tiebreaker for sorting

[sleek granite]

apparently get_X_same doesn't like having more ranks

[lean dune]

I didn't think it cared, but maybe it does

let me have a look

[sleek granite]

line 554 is crashing on the "next" call

[lean dune]

hm

it's initializing a list of 14 empty tables

but it's just overwriting that indexed by the cards' id

[sleek granite]

hm, yeah, setting it to initialize 17 tables instead fixes it

[lean dune]

I'll get that fixed up for 0.9.2

[sleek granite]

also this is more than a little strange, how the extra ranks all get truncated to one character 🤔 just while im on Oddities Of The Rank API

[knotty fable]

Will there be cards specifically for them numbers

[sleek granite]

but what about the numbers for the cards?

[grand geode]

what the fuck

[quasi anvil]

oops wrong channel wanted to post it in the #1187936299655647313 x)

sorry

[lean dune]

great catch, I was already on changing that to 2 characters

[sleek granite]

if i may, perhaps it would be prudent to make it so it's an option from the new_rank function, to supply the truncated form, or at least modally choose which to use? one character would be correct for face cards to fit in, but numbers look strange

[lean dune]

that might be even better

[sleek granite]

and two characters being the default would look strange for additional face cards, so i dont think a "one-size-fits-all" solution is possible

[lean dune]

i think this should be enough customizability

or are there any other cases that might be useful to include?

[sleek granite]

assuming im following this correctly, yeah that should be all bases covered. you can supply shorthand.unique as a string literal, or shorthand.length to make a dynamically truncated version, right? and it defaults to 1 character shorthand

[lean dune]

yep

[sleek granite]

technically just having shorthand.unique means that the shorthand.length part is redundant but it might make for cleaner code on the mod side? more options probably better than less options though

[lean dune]

the length version is just less boilerplate if you wanted to change a rank's name

but yeah it's technically redundant

[sleek granite]

yeah i think that's what i meant by the "cleaner code on the mod side" part i'm just not familiar with the term "boilerplate"

[lean dune]

yeah basically

[cunning silo]

dont do booster packs

[lean dune]

you don't end up having to change same/similar values in multiple places

[cunning silo]

worst mistake of my life XD

[sleek granite]

man and inserting '11' to SMODS.Card.RANKS['10'].next didn't work (?)

[lean dune]

do you have next set properly on 11 and 12?

[sleek granite]

11's next is '12', 12's next is '13', 13's next is 'Ace'

[lean dune]

they need to be lists

[wanton rapids]

shouldn't 13's next be jack?

[lean dune]

hm

[sleek granite]

my intent was that 10 goes into jack or 11

branching paths, of a sort. the >10 number cards would be their own thing separate from the face cards

but even trying to fully overwrite 10's next with {'11'} also seems to not work

is there a debug console i'm not privy to? it'd probably be easier than just trying runs until the thing i'm trying to test happens

[lean dune]

tk_debug_window.py is the debug console that's available, for the most part. it's on the steamodded github

[sleek granite]

oh, huh, Strength is correctly incrementing 10 to 11

(with the next table fully overridden, that is)

[lean dune]

OHHHH

that's a bit tricky, actually

I add newly added ranks to the list of starting values for get_straight

so after it doesn't find an Ace, it goes looking for an 11

[sleek granite]

so theoretically it should work with a 15, 14, 13, 12, 11 straight? or is the starting value the high card of the straight

[lean dune]

the starting value is the low card

i think neither universally adding it nor universally not adding it can do the trick

because not doing so would cause separate chains to be completely ignored

I guess I'll have to make another option for it

[sleek granite]

*nods* yes this is a wisdom i think

oh wait i think i get it, it has to do with how you aren't allowed to "wrap-around" a straight if it includes an Ace? so it's thinking i'm trying that with an 11?

yeah just patched get_straight to not include custom ranks as starting values, works like a charm (afaik)

obviously i can drop that patch if such a feature is put in the API proper

[cunning silo]

what is going on here

[sleek granite]

im making numberz

[lean dune]

yeah as I said that has it's own issues, I'll just add another option to treat new ranks like aces in straights

[sleek granite]

right. i probably won't be releasing this before there's a steamodded update, if the past few days are any indication, so it's more for my own benefit lol

[lean dune]

is calling the option key ace at all confusing?

[sleek granite]

probably, yeah. might imply interaction with Superposition or Scholar

[lean dune]

i think it needs to be more descriptive, but i don't want it to be too long either

straight_edge?

[sleek granite]

funny, i like it

on the topic of joker compatibility, actually, Fibo and come to mind...

[lean dune]

omg, this means you can make straights wrap around by setting SMODS.Card.RANKS['Ace'].straight_edge = false

without that fallback, that would now just completely invalidate straights because there's no starting point anymore

new argument btw

[sleek granite]

new_suit gonna be longer than most novels

[lean dune]

create_cards only is checked against false

you can just omit it and it will still create the cards

also I think you'll like these

[sleek granite]

but if it's omitted then it's nil and it'll count as false?

[lean dune]

nil is not equal to false

[sleek granite]

oh right lua

[lean dune]

anyway these changes are up on github and will be in 0.9.2

please try to break stuff

[sleek granite]

this seems to not impact gameplay, but this 3 of spades wants to sort after the 13 of hearts when sorting by suit

well, it'd affect gameplay if trying to suss out info on facedown cards

[lean dune]

yeah the nominal stuff hasn't been touched at all

I think Ace being 11 barely works because there's no rank with value 1

[sleek granite]

i see. more reasons for my mod to be cursed as hell

oh hey good to know this works

[lean dune]

it picks a card from your deck afaik

[sleek granite]

yeah it's just nice when the game supplies me instantly with the knowledge that something i wasn't even considering, does in fact just work with no additional requirements

[winter shale]

Any advice on how to install steammodded on Win11? Windows won't keep the file even after I mark as safe, etc Just says Virus Detected

[lean dune]

use lovely #1217867725532041369

and for any issues downloading, make sure you aren't using chrome or any chrome based browser

[knotty fable]

I got u. Go into privacy and security go into the file that got blocked and hit allow them download again.... Some mods have a similar issue but requires u to download it on a different device or the file itself that that Windows has an issue with

[primal minnow]

I just turned off my active protection while downloading it

[grand geode]

let's play a game of guess the joker

which jokers are these

[random silo]

Wheel of misfortune

Idk

[sleek granite]

is this dumb or am i dumb

[winter shale]

Ok so I put DVPreview and DVSimulate lua files into the balatro mods folder, I have steammodded folder in there with Core, Debug, loader, and lovely.toml in there
i'm still not seeing the checkboxk to show score in settings when I start the game

[winter shale]

Turning off real time security allowed me to execute the steammodded.exe file, so that worked but still can't get the mod to turn on 😦

[runic kraken]

no idea if I like this more or less

[sleek granite]

hm, yes, deck

drew a straight in one discard, actually insane luck

[hardy brook]

Oh trust me… you’re not the only one that’s gone crazy lol

I had something similar planned

[sleek granite]

crazy? i was crazy once. they gave me a 92-card starting deck and said "here figure it out"

[hardy brook]

92? Pathetic

[sleek granite]

this is already unplayable lol

[hardy brook]

How about 240 cards?

6 suits, 6 face cards, 24 ranks including half a suit and infinity

[sleek granite]

groans audibly

[hardy brook]

0-1/2-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-INF-J-C-B-T-Q-K-A

[sleek granite]

(yes 20's next is Ace)

[hardy brook]

That is the ranking i have in a REAL DECK IRL btw

[grand geode]

fight back

[sleek granite]

ok

ohno even steven doesn't work.... cringe.....

[hardy brook]

Uh what?

[grand geode]

fight back

[hardy brook]

But i can’t fight me

[sleek granite]

i did, eat 20-16 straight

[hardy brook]

Also why is it ante 5 Crimson Heart?

[grand geode]

fight back

[rare shell]

damn I wanted to make the same thing, beautiful

[sleek granite]

it only slightly breaks the deck view ui

[grand geode]

slightly

[sleek granite]

can still leave by pressing esc thankfully lol

[unreal cedar]

hey there, does anyone know if it's possible to add text to the joker count and the consumable count?

[hazy orbit]

Is it spelled Jelly Mod? Or what and where can I find the download and whatnot

[sleek granite]

ohno

[grand geode]

#1216754656617693255

[lean dune]

oh shit

I wonder if it would look cramped if we try to squeeze it to fit on screen

[sleek granite]

scroll bars are against the law, true

figured out Not Flooding The Starting Deck

[lean dune]

scroll bars are a big no-no

[hazy orbit]

Thank you

[lean dune]

I was about to release 0.9.2, but I might try to do some squeezing first

[sleek granite]

would it help to have 23 ranks premade or

[lean dune]

I can just register a few dummy ranks

[runic kraken]

I think im finally done with my tarot textures

[echo hatch]

i like that

they look great :3

[grand geode]

would y'all like an early surprise or an on time surprise

[echo hatch]

early

[grand geode]

asking for no particular reason at all

cough

[echo hatch]

sure

[hardy brook]

I see you went for an inbetween route

Looks good

Btw, just realized how insane my card collection modpack is gonna be once ortalab and Archived are done

You got every change from Balatro up to 1.0.0 (and later on up to 1.0.1) in one update, you got a mod that doubles the amount of stuff in the game

You got all the other crazy stuff

[cunning silo]

im glad the tarot API works!

[fading terrace]

Are there any mods to add hands or give unlimited hands ?

[lean dune]

#1209857245316255744

[runic kraken]

no problems with the api yet. Thank you for your work

[rapid epoch]

I had the thought of a voucher that lets you pocket a booster pack consumable you would otherwise be forced to use on the spot

[fading terrace]

nice ty, where do i find info on how to install ?

[fallow bramble]

Ball (art is just a placeholder)

[rare shell]

balling

[shell bolt]

honestly that art is sick if u just add some speed lines so it doesnt look like the japanese flag lol

[fallow bramble]

How can you find an ms paint drawn deformed ball sick

[digital lily]

how hard is it to write rounded up at the end

[fallow bramble]

"..gains its current Chips divided by 12, rounded up" ?

Does sound better like that, thanks

[rare shell]

Every two hands, score
1/12th of this joker's current
chips, rounded up.
(blah blah blah, 2 hands left)

oh wait

[fallow bramble]

It gains it too

[rare shell]

i just woke up @_@

reading comprehension

[fallow bramble]

It's ok, I used "the ceiling of'

It's just that I remembered the ceil before the round

[rare shell]

Every 2 hands, gives 1/12th of chips
rounded up, then gains that many.
(blah)

maybe 1/12th of its chips but

[digital lily]

when you write the ceiling of at the start you dont even know whats being rounded up until you read further, taking up real estate in your brain and making it overall harder to understand the card

[rare shell]

i think thats how you'd succicntly word it

[fallow bramble]

English isn't my main language, but thanks for the tip

[light cloud]

bros i'm sorry to interrupt. I'm trying to read earlier chats but I can't find anything.

Has anyone made a non-poker themed deck skin for the game?

[rare shell]

bilingual folks

[fallow bramble]

Eyup

[fallow bramble]

Maybe in #1209506514763522108 ?

[rare shell]

ngl im a native english speaker but even id forget about the word "round up" sometimes and just go for something like ceiling so i dont blame you (x

but yeah, i think the second version of what i wrote earlier might be the most succinct

[light cloud]

sorry english is my first language

[light cloud]

can't find anything

[fallow bramble]

Does look better alright

[rare shell]

much cleaner

[fallow bramble]

Maybe check #🎨・fan-art too?

[rare shell]

my only real qualm though

is that its not clear how many chips this gives

like, i know it has 10 chips total

[light cloud]

i will look, lmk if anyone finds

[fallow bramble]

Ah how much it will add afterward?

[rare shell]

but having to ask to do 10/12, rounded up in my head feels like there should be a way to show that

[fallow bramble]

Lmao I get you, no worries I'll do something about it

[rare shell]

maybe have it listed like

(chip value you're getting)/(total value chips)

so in this case it would show up like

[fallow bramble]

In the currently?

[rare shell]

Currently: +1/+10 Chips, 2 hand(s) left

[fallow bramble]

Won't people think it's a division?

[rare shell]

or something similar

i think the plus signs after each number might dissuade that interpretation in my opinion

like if it was 1/10 then i'd assume 0.1 chips

you could also color the numbers differently

maybe make one of them tarot purple, even if that isnt exactly in base game color theory

neat joker by the way

[fallow bramble]

Yea I was thinking of coloring them differently

Dunno what the "+1" color could be tho

[fallow bramble]

Thanks!

[light cloud]

ok new question guys.

Hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to replace the cards myself, how does that look like

just the skin of the cards, not the jokers or the tarots

just main ones

is it as ez as replacing some jpegs or is it a more complicated process

[rare shell]

alternate thing by the way

if you dont think that the +1/+12 solution looks good

you could also just change the 1/12th to 1/10th but id understand why you wouldnt do that

[strong falcon]

Does anyone know why context.after gets triggered twice 🤔

[fallow bramble]

Was thinking of putting the +1 next to the 1/12th

[rare shell]

ooooooo, smart

[fallow bramble]

Will try that in a bit

[strong falcon]

Not sure why, but adding and context.cardarea == G.jokers to it fixed my problem, if anyone else has the same thing 👍

[lost solar]

does anyone know which lua file i can find the source code for cartomancer in?

[fallow bramble]

Yea maybe theres multiple "context.after" under different context

[fallow bramble]

If you use VSC you can do ctrl+shift+f for every instance of cartomancer

[lost solar]

does that search through every file?

ooh nvm i got it, thanks!

[cosmic shell]

very easy, the exe can be opened with a zip unarchiver like 7zip and the texture atli are under resources/textures, within that folder the 1x folder contains 1:1 pixel versions (i reccomend editing these ones) and the 2x folder contains those same atli nearest neighbour scaled up by 2 (this is for the smooth pixel scaling feature). also, steamodded has an example mod for putting replacement textures in game called "negative texture pack".

[cunning silo]

https://gyazo.com/929872602d938810190f3f607cec90d8.mp4
inching closer to making the boosters work

[rare shell]

😄

finally managing to add them to consumable slot time

[knotty moss]

I'm having issues again, every time I try to buy a joker I get the error "attempted to get length of field 'full_hand' [a nil value]"
I currently have "Jank Challenges, JankJokersMod, LushMod, LushUtil, Expand In Hand Abilities, Mika's Mod Collection, More Fluff, Six Suits, Themed Jokers, MultiJokersMod" anyone have a similar issue/fix?

[fallow bramble]

Which version of Steamodded you use?

[knotty moss]

What ever the newest is, I just updated it

[fallow bramble]

Yea its broken

[orchid vault]

yeah thats why

it screwed everything up with jokers

[knotty moss]

K

[lean dune]

I'm on releasing steamodded 0.9.2 rn, which should fix these issues

[orchid vault]

also im surprised you were able to play a coherent game before with that many mods

[knotty moss]

It works surprisingly well, just don't add JellyMod

[knotty moss]

Can you send the file?

[lean dune]

I still need to compile everything, then the release will be up on github

[knotty moss]

K

Okay, let me know when it's up

Hold on, I may not be on the latest version, I'm on 0.7.2

[lean dune]

oh that's way behind

[knotty moss]

K, let me know when you release 0.9.2

[rare shell]

you can also download 0.8.2 in the meantime if you dont want to wait

[knotty moss]

Nah, I'm fine waiting, it gives me a reason to cook some food

[raven rover]

Are there any mods or specific modded jokers that focus on scaling? I feel like there are too few of those and the concept is really cool

[knotty moss]

Incremental joker,

Can't remember what mod it's from but it adds .1x mult every round finishes

[raven rover]

That's nice

[old hearth]

Are people expecting the balance patch to break all mods? Should I hold off modding until then?

And is there anywhere mods are being rated yet or is it all free for all atm?

[knotty moss]

(@lean dune )

[raven rover]

Rated?

[old hearth]

Similar to the workshop on steam

It's mostly lists atm without knowing what is worth trying

[knotty moss]

All mods I've seen are free on GitHub

[old hearth]

Yeah, it's just lists of mods and no indication which are bad

I've been itching to try some UI mods at least but I saw the balance patch mention and wondering if I should hold off

[lean dune]

it might change some backend things, we really don't know

UI isn't likely to change a whole lot though

[old hearth]

Any "must have" UI mods yet? A way to see what my hand will score is at the top of my list. I saw a lot of options for this using external tools

[lean dune]

and anything that uses the mod loader APIs will likely not need to be adapted even if backend changes concerning it

[raven rover]

That's fair I guess if after reading the GitHub you think it's cool you should just try, couldn't hurt

Well designed projects will have well designed GitHub pages

[old hearth]

Good to know

[lean dune]

Not a lot tbh. There's #1221215713910325330 for what you mentioned, but it's likely to break other mods

[old hearth]

I know it's early stages still. Just wait until Balatro wins game of the year

[lean dune]

rest assured it will

[old hearth]

It's a wonderful unique concept with a lot of room to grow

Feels like when I first played StS

Any content mods people are really enjoying?

I still have so much base game stuff to unlock and decks to win with...

[runic kraken]

Mikas Jokerpack is good for a bunch of stuff

other than that Jellys mod, but thats mostly incompatible with other mods

[dapper helm]

i see jellymod mentioned probably the most out of any content mod but also half of that is cause it has bugs and compatibility issues

[old hearth]

I'll probably stick with vanilla content for a bit longer. I just like seeing if there are good UI improvements brewing

[runic kraken]

you can also always check out my own mod, it adds a few jokers that all have common themes to synergize together
https://blizzowx.github.io/

[crude yarrow]

Jellys definitely has the most content for any single mod currently, but that's also because it's seemingly utterly uninterested in maintaining compatibility with anything else in order to do so.

[rigid jewel]

JellyMod is insane considering it uses absolutely 0 Steamodded API

[crude yarrow]

Yeah and it's genuniely too bad for it too.
I enjoy the ideas in Jellymod, but when the choice is Jellymod vs Literally All Other Mods, it loses every time.

[rare shell]

honestly i still find it really funny that no one knew about jellymod because james wasnt on the discord at the time

and someone just mentioned the mod and everyone was like ???????????

its honestly impressive

i dont blame his mod for being incompatible with a lot of stuff since that offers a degree of design freedom thats nice to have in the early stages of the mod scene

and plus, it gets the content creators going

more eyes on the modding scene is always a good thing

imo my personal modding philosphy is being able to pick and choose whatever you like, hope when codex arcanum we dont end up breaking every other mod x)

[crude yarrow]

imo, compatibility is king. A modding scene doesn't grow if people won't make their mods compatible with other mods as a constant and consistent effort by all parties involved.

The only other path towards a robust community is to be such a gigachad mod author that you make the most highlander of highlander mods such that the whole community is bowed by the sheer weight of your influence and you force everybody else to make their mods compatible with yours. You need to have the undisputed king-of-content position to even take a shot at doing that though. You need to have streamers and Youtubers playing your mod over vanilla to have that kind of status.

[rare shell]

imo its all just a symptom of starting to developing mods before an established common ground

we still have 2 modloaders after all (which isnt a bad thing! balamod dev pls keep it up)

[crude yarrow]

Yeah, hell we don't even have an accepted standard for API yet.

[rare shell]

and we only are now getting apis to modify other things besides jokers and cards

id imagine new updates gonna bork some things, but tbh i think it'll be more along the lines of cards have new fields and we need to register said new fields

since it seems more so of a balance update + new sticker types

[rigid jewel]

We aren't even technically done with API for that stuff, I could see smaller API made for stuff like calculate_dollar_bonus and add_to_deck/remove_from_deck for jokers.

And probably a lot more if I looked though other card logic

[rare shell]

what would you need for those specifically?

just so you dont have to locally declare it every mod?

[rigid jewel]

(Granted I don't think the API for it is that needed)

But QOL for small stuff is nice

[rare shell]

did steamodded ever get proper cardback injection so we can have multiple deck mods or

[fallow bramble]

Got it working Lyman 👍

[crude yarrow]

Holy tooltip

[fallow bramble]

Real

(forgot the attention on the first 2)

[rigid jewel]

calculate_dollar_bonus is used by jokers that give money on payout (Golden Joker, Rocket, Cloud 9, etc.)
add_to_deck/remove_from_deck is used to update changes when stuff is obtained/sold (such as Astronomer, Chaos the Clown, Chicot, Credit Card, etc.)

[rigid jewel]

Basically yea

If you're making mods with massive amounts of jokers, you'll end up calling one of these two.

And making your own API to make calling these functions easier could screw with other mods that don't.

As I mentioned, not necessary at all but nice QOL I would wish to have regardless.

[old hearth]

This ties into what I was asking at first about the dev being tied into the modding scene or if updates will just break everything

[rare shell]

no i get that, im asking why would you need an api for that, or rather what would an api do in this case

like, i just localized calculate_dollar_bonus in my mod and it wasnt really that much of a hassle

it'd be nice to not have to do that but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

adds like 3 lines of code

[rare shell]

thats a cleaner way of doing it than i thought of

only thing is that maybe bump "chips" from the first line to the second line

[fallow bramble]

Yea true, it sure is a long text line

[lost solar]

this is the steamodded api: where is j_test defined?
it seems to be calling Jokers.j_test, but what does that refer to

[fallow bramble]

Pretty sure it's the joker slug no?

[lost solar]

isnt the slug defined as "test"

[rare shell]

https://github.com/iJohnMaged/multi-jokers/blob/main/MultiJokers.lua would recommend looking at this for a better example of the api imo

[fallow bramble]

Woops looking at the wrong func

[rigid jewel]

"j_" is added onto your defined joker slug, so if your joker is called "monochrome" and you define the slug as that the slug is considered "j_monochrome"

[lost solar]

ohh thanks

[rigid jewel]

Same with everything else but with the letter changed (like vouchers using "v_")

[lean dune]

alright lads it's here

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/releases/tag/0.9.2

[rare shell]

UNBROKE
BACK TO JOKE

[golden oyster]

how easy is it to change the appearance of cards? is there a guide of some sort?

[rigid jewel]

The day of this is over YAY

No unused-but-forced-to-define-anyways-else-it-crashes self

[lean dune]

yes, the literal day of it

actually more like 2/3 of a day

[fallow bramble]

Gave the ball to myself first round in a run test, if you use just a few hands it's really hard to scale it and isn't worth it to pick, scholar's foil edition gave more chips overall lol. Might up the scaling or change the base chips value.

[vestal crag]

I got a little mod idea, just a modded joker:
Scrap Cash (Rare):
When a hand is discarded, gives money equal to the level of the discarded hand. Does not apply to high card.

And another idea for a legendary joker. Don't got a name for this one.
Effect: When a hand is discarded, it is also played for free.

(Free as in, it uses no hands.)

[fallow bramble]

First one sounds feasible, second one I have no idea.

[vestal crag]

I know the first one is doable, I just don't have the knowledge or motivation to make a mod.

So I'm throwing free ideas out.

[lean dune]

isn't the second one just slightly better burglar?

[vestal crag]

Not necessarily.

Since the hand is discarded, it should still trigger discard effects.

But it also triggers play effects.

The power comes in that you get to trigger way more effects for the amount of discards/hands you have.

[lean dune]

I only consider it slightly better because there are also anti-synergies with discards

think ramen, green joker and the like

[vestal crag]

Right, but that's very intentional.

[lean dune]

anyway it's way too weak for a legendary

[vestal crag]

Rare, then?

I think it's wildly abuseable with good luck.

Especially when playing builds that scale with each hand played.

While not locking you out of discard effects like burglar does.

[hardy brook]

This is gonna be nuts in Archived

Riff Raff + Beta Invisible

Get a negative on something, it'll just infinite negative

And booster packs make it much easier

[frozen juniper]

is anyone available to help me install custom card textures

i cant get balamod to work and winrar just says its corrupt if i try opening the exe

[fallow bramble]

Oh yea btw @vestal crag maybe you can suggest your jokers here https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1215516228525760543

[dusky reef]

this one is definitely doable, nothing is not doable via modding LOL
but this is not how the game works by convention. Discard is not done per hand, but per card.

so you could potentially have a tracker that stores all the discarded card and track when it hit the number of cards highlighted, it means all currently selected cards are discarded, then play it

but it is not like you get "these cards will be discarded for this button press" right away

[pearl belfry]

i think it'd be balanced if it played the hand but not the cards

like, as if it was a hand of debuffed cards

[frozen juniper]

i dont understand the balamod quick install either it just tells me its not a command

[dusky reef]

so you meant basically replace discard button with play and only takeaway discard per that button pressed? LOL

[dusky reef]

I don't use balamod personally, sorry

[frozen juniper]

@dusky reef im down to use whatever i literally just wanna change to custom textures i made

i just dont know how

was hoping someone did LOL

[dusky reef]

oh, easy way is to replace a in-game file

[pearl belfry]

actually my idea sucks because that'd be just a worse burglar

[frozen juniper]

how, it says its corrupt when i try to replace with winrar i assumed i had to have an injector

[tepid sentinel]

Hey, I was wondering if someone experienced modding the game could lend me a hand, I just want to ask a question cause I quite stuck rn in my project.

[dusky reef]

you can try 7-zip? i heard that is ok

[frozen juniper]

will update you shortly

[dusky reef]

not necessarily if you get like 10 discard LOL

[pearl belfry]

true true

i feel legendary jokers should be wackier tbh, like what if an effect was "add last discard cards to played hand"

[dusky reef]

I had even crazier joker before

actually this image is too out-dated hold on

[pearl belfry]

this got me thinking, what's the longest description in the vanilla game?

[pearl belfry]

i feel most are like 2 sentences at most

[dusky reef]

in fact it is as concise as i can be

[rigid jewel]

Ceremonial Dagger.

[dusky reef]

yeah they rarely have complicated descriptions

[lost solar]

does anyone know the easiest way to test a custom joker?

[dusky reef]

use debugmod and add it to your hand right away

[frozen juniper]

7zip does work

[dusky reef]

yay

[pearl belfry]

i guess mods can go wild with joker effects, but it's good vanilla keeps it simple

[lost solar]

where can i find this?

[dusky reef]

uhh let me find the link

[lost solar]

thanks

[dusky reef]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209857245316255744

there

[lost solar]

lovely tysm

[dusky reef]

np

[dusky reef]

it's just sometimes even the simplest to answer effect would take many text to rigoriously explain

[pearl belfry]

unrelated but is blind a poker term?

[lost solar]

yeah it is

[pearl belfry]

oh alright i did googled it better so i get the idea, but are the blind icons like, fancy chips or they're circles just because?

[kindred venture]

Does anyone know how to disable mods i have downloaded?

[rich wigeon]

They're modeled after the markers players get for the blinds and being a dealer

[lost solar]

the easiest way is to either delete the files or move them out of the mod folder

[lean dune]

or with steamodded, you can just change the first line in some way, then the loader will just ignore it

[lost solar]

i want the joker to create the tarot card for each blind (like cartomancer) but my code is making it create one on each played hand. can someone help

[tepid sentinel]

Hey, I was wondering if someone experienced modding the game could lend me a hand, I just want to ask a question cause I quite stuck rn in my project.

[lean dune]

Never ask to ask, just ask your question

[tepid sentinel]

To put it simply, i want to rotate an UIBox when a button is pressed and im quite stuck

[lean dune]

Looking at the code for cartomancer, you're looking for context.setting_blind

also if you're at all using steamodded, it's not recommended to modify calculate_joker directly

[lost solar]

oh, would it be better to create my own function and call it inside calculate_joker?

[lean dune]

UI can be quite jank with this game honestly, and I haven't dealt with a problem like that specifically

[lean dune]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/Creating-new-game-objects

[hardy brook]

Good news. 0.8.6b has been fully archived archived and I even added 1.0.1a's 8 Ball

Well almost

I just need the blinds

and seals but I can't find seals

Oh shoot I found it

Gold Seal: Returns to hand when played

[fading terrace]

Why is the modloader so sketchy? 😭

[hardy brook]

Steamodded?

[fading terrace]

aye

[hardy brook]

It's a false positive. It's literally a program that's injecting code into another program so of course by definition it's considered a trojan

[rough horizon]

look at the source code if you are concerned

[pallid stratus]

Speaking of, is there any way to get chrome to let me download it? It false positives as a virus.

[fading terrace]

Yea i went over it and seems perfectly fine but i assumed antivirus would be smarter >_>

[rough horizon]

google is probably your friend

[hardy brook]

Use Firefox, that's how lol

[lean dune]

the most collision-free way to get it running at the moment is via lovely, which doesn't modify the executable at all

#1217867725532041369

[lean dune]

yeah no, don't use chrome or any chromium based browser

firefox all the way

[pallid stratus]

Thanks

[hardy brook]

Welp. I got all the archived for 0.8.6b listed

[rough horizon]

i recommend Brave instead of Firefox

[rare shell]

brave is still chromium

[rough horizon]

it is, but still miles ahead of Chrome

and I prefer it over Firefox, but that's just me

[rare shell]

as long as you arent recommending opera gx you will be spared my wrath

[lean dune]

either way, first thing you should do when you have issues downloading is using something not chromium based

[rare shell]

also yeah i would recommend doing lovely, easiest to update imo

[rough horizon]

can't you just use r2modman?

not sure if the current release already supports Balatro, but there should be a beta version around somewhere

[lean dune]

yeah, that's sort of an option as well, but not all modders (myself included) upload to there

the r2mm version also uses lovely tho

(i say version like it's a separate thing - it isn't)

[rough horizon]

i mean, you can still manually drag the mods into the folder, even with r2modman

kinda defeats the purpose of it though, now that I think about it

[lean dune]

yeah

don't need to use it at that point

[tacit mountain]

I need to update the version on there btw

[pallid stratus]

Lovely worked, thanks for the help!

[rare shell]

iirc the r2modman client isnt publically supporting balatro yet

but Very soon

[rough horizon]

I always thought it was only meant for unity games

but I guess not lol

[rare shell]

lua is a very good language for modding things

its why binding of isaac's modding api is built with it even if the original game isn't lua based

[tepid sentinel]

why's that?

[lean dune]

scripting languages are just really easy to mess around with, compared to something like c#

[rare shell]

no need to wait for compiling

codes mostly exposed

[rough horizon]

not a big fan of lua, I'd much prefer C#

[fading terrace]

I did all the steps but it won't work for some reason. My mod files are classified as "Lua source file" instead of just Lua, can this be the reason ?

[tacit mountain]

I mean, Python, Javascript or even Ruby would have been better but they are relying on an heavy interpreter to work, even if some games engines exist with Python

Lua is fine

[lean dune]

make sure you've put dwmapi.dll in the same folder where the Balatro executable lives

[rare shell]

where's my pascal rewrite of balatro

[lean dune]

please not js

if you're gonna make me do JS, I'll need it to at least be typescript

[rare shell]

balatro in java

[tacit mountain]

https://thunderstore.io/c/balatro/p/Steamopollys/Steamodded/versions/

Updated to 0.9.2

[rare shell]

doing gods work steamo & crew

[fading terrace]

I did that and everything else in the instructions 😵‍💫

[lean dune]

hm... can you show me the structure of your Mods folder then?