⚙・modding-general

[rare shell]

I mean I think it's known as the thunderstore mod manager now

But folks just still use the older shorthand still

[grand geode]

bet

i think i'll wait a while until i port all of my mods to the Risk of Rain 2 Mod Manager

just to see how Risk of Rain 2 Mod Manager is gonna go

[lean dune]

you don't need to port your mods, there's still gonna be a modloader involved

unless you're using love.filesystem, you don't need to change anything

[grand geode]

oh so is it just for mod loader stuff

insignificant for me then

[lean dune]

more so about the platform you install stuff with

[cosmic shell]

https://thunderstore.io/c/balatro/create/docs/ this page lists all the details about the files you need to include, the most important one is arguably manifest.json which contains information like the mod's dependencies, name, description etc.

[gleaming talon]

did the update mess with love.filesystem or something ?

I saw something like that

[lean dune]

it uses nativefs instead afaik

[gleaming talon]

because I use love.filesystem to load and play custom sounds etc

[grand geode]

i think you just change every love.filesystem to NFS

or something like that

[tacit mountain]

For Steamodded mods, you just have to list Steamodded as a dependency and use NFS in place of love.filesystem

And that's it

A good example: https://thunderstore.io/c/balatro/p/Steamopollys/MoreSpeed/

[sleek granite]

thunderstore support? hype 👀

[grand geode]

dear christ it's so stretched

[sleek granite]

this is probably a weird question but is it possible to make arbitrary playing cards atm? like say i want to make just a card that counts as a 3 with no suit or something weird like that (steamodded user here)

i just saw something about playing card api in the update notes and its got me curious

[lean dune]

The playing card API currently only supports adding complete ranks and suits, so you'd probably have to implement some functionality yourself. That being said, "no suit" is currently locked to stone cards only, which is its own issue. A way to make other cards suitless might be added in the future

[sleek granite]

interesting, thank you

[livid igloo]

Do someone know if mods can affect the game like this ? Why it is a Hight Card and not a Straight ?

I've just installed this mods :

[grand geode]

Update Steamodded

[livid igloo]

It's up to date

[lean dune]

I thought I fixed this? might be another edge case scenario

[rare shell]

is your version 0.8.1?

[livid igloo]

yes

[lean dune]

yeah that looks like an off-by-one error

sorry about that

[livid igloo]

No problem, I just want to report it

[cunning silo]

Oh wait version 0.8.1 is out?

[lean dune]

yep, 0.8.0 wasn't a thing lmao

[cunning silo]

What did it add?

[lean dune]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/releases/tag/0.8.1

we can go for 0.8.2 with the new APIs when they're ready

[tacit mountain]

I fucked up the tag 0.8.0 so I had to create a new one

[magic sandal]

We need 8.0 lore

[tacit mountain]

It was born dead

[magic sandal]

Rip 8.0

[sleek granite]

better lore than most OCs

[sleek granite]

i assume balatro still needs to be added on r2modman's side? tried loading it but it doesn't look like it's there

[tacit mountain]

Yeah, there is a custon build that already allow you to use it

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1214591552903716954

It's somewhere in this thread

[sleek granite]

i might just take a breather on modding stuff until some of this core stuff gets ironed out 😵‍💫

[exotic pine]

Got it, thanks

[mossy cairn]

nice

ez

[lean dune]

easy mode lmao

that needs a downside

[umbral pilot]

the beta build in https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209564621644505158 is basically what we're planning on release, just waiting on a review

that'll have Balatro in the game selection menu + package support

[mossy cairn]

Balatro: baby edition

[quaint basalt]

???

"High Card"?

Am I the one who's being high or

[woeful finch]

mod bug i assume

[quaint basalt]

oh no

for some reason it works when there's no Aces in the played hand

[grand geode]

yeah it's still bugged

[quaint basalt]

saw the guy earlier having the same problem, I got none of his mods so looks like it's Steamodded

[grand geode]

yeah the playing cards api still has issues

[mossy cairn]

when suits added and viewed deck, it crashes

[tall seal]

how strong is ante 18?

BOYS

[tired ibex]

aces are broken in straights with steammodded 0.8.1 so better off destroying them

[lean dune]

blame me, I was slightly too restrictive in trying to prevent infinite loops

[lean dune]

Happens with specific decks that try to use the first character of the suit name to get a prefix for what I'm aware

[strong swift]

superposition in shambles

[lean dune]

like deck of fours has this issue, but it's nothing I can ensure compatibility with

[sweet moat]

If I am using lovely injector to use steamodded, do I still have to "verify the integrity of the files" for Balatro before updating steamodded?

[lean dune]

no

[sweet moat]

Thought that but just wanted a confirmation. Ty!

[mossy cairn]

ok, thanks

[proven basin]

Is there a tutorial to make balatro mods? I mod FNV and had some ideas for a mod

[lean dune]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki has some info on steamodded APIs though incomplete, you'll probably get the most value out of inspecting the game's code (extract the game exe with 7-zip and there ya go) or looking at other mods people have made as well as the code for steamodded

[fresh delta]

Willing to pay someone to install all mods to my game. my old dumbass cant figure out how to do it. I have successfully installed steammod and mikas mod. but i cant do anything else

DM me if youd like to help for a small compensation

[past pulsar]

yall this gonna sound dumb but is steammodded safe to actually use? defender keeps kicking it back as a trojan

[fresh delta]

it is safe. turn off realtime protection off

[tacit mountain]

Or use lovelly

[fresh delta]

10$ for anyone who can help me install mods

[past pulsar]

are you using compatible mods? i read somewhere that the mods for steammodded have to have a specific header

[dapper helm]

post a screenshot of your mod folder

[marble sundial]

anyone know how to install plocate? it's a prereq for mac mods install?

[fresh delta]

https://gyazo.com/dabf9a9dd677294fab4ce61ed90ca180

thats all i have now since i had to reinstall. cuz i kept crashing

[dapper helm]

huh

[patent harbor]

hey i cant use the injector because im on a school laptop and i it the schools firewall keeps denying me to use the incector how do you install it from the sorce code file

[fresh delta]

disable real time protection

[dapper helm]

you can try using lovely to install it

[fresh delta]

thats what i had to do

[patent harbor]

i canr

[fresh delta]

hey @dapper helm would you be willing to install mods for me using team viewer? i can zelle, or paypal you 10$

[dapper helm]

can you try adding another mod and letting me know what happens? make sure if you download a zip or rar to extract it into it's own folder inside of the mods folder

[grand geode]

You currently only have the .lua file installed, no assets

[dapper helm]

sure one moment but i'm not sure i can accept the $10

[patent harbor]

i tryed installing thunderstore but didnt see balatro in it

[fresh delta]

take the $$ bro. im just too old to be doing mods

[grand geode]

in Mika's Collection github page, press the green Code button and download the entire thing as a ZIP

[dapper helm]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1217867725532041369

[white scarab]

#1209564621644505158 message
You need to be using this rn

[grand geode]

then you can just extract it in the Mods folder

[dapper helm]

mikas has assets now?

[grand geode]

been for a long while

[dapper helm]

huh, i haven't been paying attention to it

[fresh delta]

i actually had MYSTs mod installed as well. just reinstalled 15mins ago cuz i tried other shyt to mod and kept crashing

[grand geode]

If you did it right, then the mod files should be in its own folder in the Mods folder

should look somewhat like this, in the folders are a .lua file and an assets folder

[fresh delta]

https://gyazo.com/a19842b9810c5c2ee42a68bf786dfc1f

error i get when installing mods

[dapper helm]

i'll be down to help in about an hour if its still not working but at the moment i'm a bit busy

[fresh delta]

thats fine dude. Just DM me. Ill def compensate you for your time

[lean dune]

Hm, I'm free rn

Let me have a look at that

[fresh delta]

@lean dune can i fresh install balatro and you can install all the mods for me?

[lean dune]

actually i gotta go have dinner, but sure I'll help you out when I'm back at my PC

[grand geode]

Try removing BlindCollectionPatch and MystBlinds

[tacit mountain]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/releases/tag/0.8.2

[grand geode]

hmm did you have Ink and Color Suits

probably not

[dusky reef]

does NFS allow us to access the game folder itself as well?

[umbral pilot]

it should

[dusky reef]

hmmmm

will check out later

[umbral pilot]

but only if it's present in the current install, otherwise Steamodded falls back to love.filesystem

[dusky reef]

cuz it used to be we only have access to the mods folder

[umbral pilot]

so be fail-aware

[dusky reef]

ok updated CardBackInjection for those of you using it!

it is also on Thunderstore now

[lean dune]

are you still having issues?

[fresh delta]

https://gyazo.com/6a4f1cfaef2ad72bdf32607306e202d4

https://gyazo.com/b27b4b7983096dfc307288cc894f86a6

https://gyazo.com/21d9537183c275335d6350f1d1e76372

@lean dune i think i got it finally. havent tested anything playing yet

[rare shell]

try it without jellymod

[lean dune]

yep, if issues come up, that's the first thing I'd try removing

[fresh delta]

gotcha, thanks guys

[rare shell]

🫡

[lean dune]

let us know if anything crashes

[past pulsar]

to get this one to work, do i have to create my own texture folders with the altered ones as well as a folder for the original mod? sorry still new, as in just started figureing out how to do these things

[modern kiln]

Is there any precedent for collaborating with the homies in the fan art channel to make functional mods from their joker ideas? There’s some pretty awesome stuff in there…

Oops I think I just answered my own question: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1215516228525760543

Hopefully people from https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1153815324643299458 are contributing!

[dusky reef]

So if you want to use your texture pack, you want to replace OGEnhancer.png in assets folder of card back injection

[past tendon]

I tried the latest steamodded version, I can confirm flush five and 5oak now work with my custom rank cards 👍

[dusky reef]

Otherwise just name your card back files (individual ones) following the b_name convention and put it in your own asset folder and it will be fine!

Also, it doesn’t really matter where you put it because it goes through every folder with assets subdirectories as well as a high level assets folder

And you look them up by file name slug, so location doesn’t really matter

[past pulsar]

awsome thanks, now to figure out why i keep getting an overflow error. modding new games is alwasy a headache

[prime cairn]

Hello
I'm here to ask for new mods

And hopefully play a working game with 12 or more pages of mods

[past tendon]

I hope I'll be able to post some progress on my joker pack soon.

[steady rose]

Hey everyone!
Is there a mod that logs game state turn by turn? This way you'd be able to review each hand, cards played, active enhancements and jokers, and so on. The closest thing I found is https://github.com/Mi1cK/Jimbos-Histories/tree/main
I have an idea of how to implement this by adding hooks for logging everywhere, but I'd love to save the trouble if someone's already working onit

[lean dune]

I'd say go for it, I don't know of anyone actively working on it

blatro

[round ore]

what modloader do people tend to use? i wanna make somethin simple that replaces the 'new run' button in a challenge with 'restart challenge' if ya die before ante 9

[lean dune]

steamodded and balamod kind of coexist, with both getting their bits of usage

[round ore]

i have looked at the ui code and am not looking forward to modifying it but what must be done must be done

[lean dune]

it's not as bad as it looks

[round ore]

holy shit

oh man this doesn't feel sane

[lyric spear]

Greetings everyone. While browsing the #1155557846805643434 I found a request for someone to create a Balatro modding server so I decided to make my own Balatro modding server where you can easily find, discuss and create mods, get advice and find partners for bigger projects. Here you can also promote your mods, and it will be easier for people looking for mods for balatro to find the latest mods. Please, if you are interested then DM me.
The server is still raw in my opinion, so if there are any flaws dm me

[tepid sentinel]

Can someone help on why the green box is not inside the other one?

function G.FUNCS.roulette_button()
  G.FUNCS.overlay_menu({
    definition = create_roulette_menu()
  })
end

function create_roulette_menu()

  local t = {n=G.UIT.ROOT, config = {align = 'cm', minw = 20, minh = 10}, nodes = {
    {n=G.UIT.R, config={minw = 20, minh = 10, colour = G.C.GREEN}}
  }}
  local Td = {x = 0, y = 0, w = 2, h = 2, r = 0}

  return UIBox{T = td, definition = t, config = {minw = 20, minh = 10, align = "cm", colour = G.C.PURPLE}} 

end

[lean dune]

I'm not sure it's a great idea to have a separate modding server, given this one has a modding section which is quite populated, and it will be more confusing to look for mods and modding projects if it's not all in one place, to be frank

especially with r2mm allowing to easily browse for mods as well, and that server not being easily accessible to the public (you know, no self-promotion and such)

[tepid sentinel]

I dont know If its only me but I think this server could take advantage of one more channel oriented to "helping" modding wise, in modding-chat it gets quite mixed between general chitchat about mods and coding them, dont know what others think about this

maybe not "helping" but more code oriented lets say

[lean dune]

I agree on that part, but that's something we can bring up to moderators. Having a whole separate server won't help that issue

[iron onyx]

so i'm trying to use lushutils to make localization updates, but it seems like using variables (#x#) always results in ERROR being returned

[tepid sentinel]

totally agree

[iron onyx]

it works fine if i hardcode the numbers into the descriptions, but i don't want to do that if i don't have to

anyone got a clue what's going awry?

[past tendon]

At some point, we'll need a "modding gameplay" channel yeah, dedicated to general modded runs discussions

[tepid sentinel]

cant help you on that, havent touched localization yet sry

[lean dune]

what loader is lushutils for?

[iron onyx]

steamodded

[lean dune]

I've started to incorporate easy localization definitions into steamodded itself, it should be available for jokers in the latest release

[iron onyx]

should i just pull the trigger and port my mod to balamod or lovely?

here's a snippet of how i'm trying to use the variables

and i looked in the localization files for the game, that's literally how it works in there

and yet when i try using it...

[lean dune]

on a joker object created though the steamodded joker API, you just need to define a loc_def function on it

[lean dune]

there will be more In-depth docs on this soon

pretty much, the function that takes care of these values is hard to patch into, so I'm trying my best to make it available loader-side

it's quite a pain otherwise

[iron onyx]

yeah, for now i think it's just less of a headache for me to just hardcode the variables into the descriptions

[tepid sentinel]

is there any docs anywhere made by anyone on the UI of the game? (besides whats already in the files by thunk) im still making progress bymyself but id speed up things a lot

[iron onyx]

suboptimal, but it's all i can do

[lean dune]

again, there's an interface we provide. I'll add docs for 0.9 when I get there, but best I can do for now is an example

[lean dune]

efforts towards docs have barely been present

especially given the headache the UI of this game is

[tepid sentinel]

I've tried to ask one of the mods if it was ok to create a thread to try to document what we know in a repo or something because i wasnt sure if it was aghainst the rules but i got no response

[tepid sentinel]

its melting my retinas

[lean dune]

say I have this joker definition

after calling j_envious_joker:register(), I can do the following

    function SMODS.Jokers.j_envious_joker:loc_def(card)
        if card.ability.name == 'Envious Joker' then
            return { card.ability.extra.s_mult, localize(card.ability.extra.suit, 'suits_singular') }
        end
    end

[lean dune]

(i just realized I cropped that unideally)

either way, I've made the loader process that in the appropriate function so that I'm the only one having to deal with it

oh shoot i just realized now I also have to do that for all the other center types

[blissful herald]

i want to create a mod that adds a deck that's based on a traditional game where i live
it's a standard deck, only missing the ranks 2-6
i would also like to have special hands that fit the the traditional game i'm basing it on, so i don't want the standard poker hands to be available

I am looking for mods that have a similar ideas, but i couldn't find any, if anyone knows of any mods that i would benefit from reading the source code i'd highly appreciate it

[lean dune]

for the removing ranks part, you may look at what the code for abandoned deck is doing

[tepid sentinel]

illbe making something similar in a while, but without the special hands, where are u from?

[lean dune]

for hands, I don't think anyone has done anything deck-specific about them

nothing that can't be done, though

[blissful herald]

i'm from saudi arabia, the game i'm referencing is baloot
(honestly i don't really think the deck im adding will be balanced or play well, i just want to make it for fun 🙂 )

[tepid sentinel]

i think i'll be making a spanish one with custom textures thats making another user here, already talked to them, but mine will be lacking 8s9s10s

also, for fun, thats the important part

though sometimes im near having a stroke trying to figure things out

[blissful herald]

"im near having a stroke" so true lmao

im going through the game code for abandoned deck as Aure suggested and i still can't figure it out

jumping through the code to figure out what everything means

it also doesn't help that i barely know how to make loops in lua lol

although it is **technically **the first programming language i learned

[pseudo shell]

wheres the mod folder for balamod

[iron juniper]

Appdata/Balatro

[pseudo shell]

uhhh

[iron juniper]

Oh nevermind

I'm thinking Steamodded

[pseudo shell]

nvm it is there

[iron juniper]

Don't know if it's different for Balamod or not

[pseudo shell]

i just couldnt find appdata lol

[iron juniper]

Ahh, Windows?

[pseudo shell]

yeah

but i have hidden folders off

so i found it

[iron juniper]

Hitting windows+R and running %appdata% opens the folder right away

[pseudo shell]

yeah

[tardy sierra]

Does this just give Misprint values of Mult/Chips for every Face card played?

That doesn't sound like the best Legendary...ESPECIALLY because the design/name isn't based on a real life jester/joker.

[lean dune]

it's not misprint values, it's just that the loc values don't exist

[normal onyx]

any mod recommendations?

[iron onyx]

yes, this exactly.

[orchid vault]

a joker that i really wish would exist is a joker that allows ‘once per round’ effects (burnt joker, DNA) to be triggered more than one time

[loud crystal]

Blueprint

[orchid vault]

i meant the joker itself could trigger on more than just the first hand or discard, like the first and second discard/hand

[loud crystal]

oh ic

[lyric spear]

We have separate channels for sharing resources (code snippets, templates, guides) , finding modding partners and getting help with various aspects of modding. This will allow server members to easily find the information they need and suitable partners to work with, as well as reduce confusion and make navigation easier. This structured and participant-friendly modding space will certainly contribute to the activity and development of the modding community.

[lean dune]

now that's what I like to call advertising...

my point stands that having a separate server that isn't easily accessible to the public will not benefit the modding community

[white scarab]

This is one of the reasons why we never made the pre-1.0 modding server public

Since everything is done here already

[stone brook]

i do kinda wish we had a separate chat for troubleshooting vs developing

[dusky reef]

Basically a player chat and a nerd chat

[tepid sentinel]

can we tag mods or make them see this?

[dusky reef]

☝️🤓

[oblique berry]

So how would i go about removing steammodded from balatro? Do i just uninstall the game from steam and reinstall it?

[modern kiln]

From Steamodded Readme: "If you already installed Steamodded, you will need to reset your Balatro executable before doing the update. To do it, go to you Steam Library -> "Balatro" -> (Right Click) "Properties" -> "Installed Files" ->"Verifies the integrity of the files". Remember to stop the game before clicking on it. It will re download all the game files. "

[oblique berry]

okay so just verifying the files on steam will take care of it?

[exotic shadow]

yeah

[oblique berry]

👍

[fickle elbow]

I just finished upgrading the jokers and tarot cards art. What'd you think

[modern kiln]

pretty clean, nice work

[pearl belfry]

Has anyone suggested a legendary that's just "^2 mult"?

[orchid vault]

exponents in balatro would go nuts

i’d love to see something like that in an unbalanced joker mod

[strong swift]

cryptid

[pearl belfry]

That's why it would be a legendary, and the only joker to have it

[orchid vault]

yeah cryptic should have something like this ngl

cryptid*

hate autocorrect

[coral shale]

Isn't that just plasma deck with extra steps? 🤔

or maybe plasma deck without extra steps*

[orchid vault]

no, because it keeps your chips the same

it’s very similar though

[coral shale]

Oh ye ig scaling will be much greater

[pearl belfry]

Tbf alternate deck perks are usually a voucher or a joker

[orchid vault]

so… legendary joker that’s just ‘squares your current mult, 2x base blind size’

[pearl belfry]

It just squares the mult, although it having a drawback would make it more balanced

I just loved the idea of a legendary joker being a description as simple as just "^2 mult"

[orchid vault]

with drawback would be a good joker for just a regular mod, but if it’s included in an unbalanced joker mod then it’s fine without

[pearl belfry]

"^2 mult. -1 joker slot"
And make it so the soul card doesn't generate it if you only have one slot available

[boreal ibex]

hello! wanting to get into modding balatro, anybody able to give me a bit of guidance on how to set it up?

do i just download mods and put them in a folder in balatro, or is there like a setup for it

[orchid vault]

you’ll want to download a mod injector, i’d recommend steamodded

(see https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209564621644505158)

[boreal ibex]

i figured thered be something like that

[orchid vault]

follow the instructions on the github page after that

if you got any other questions ask like me or someone in that thread

[boreal ibex]

alright, thanks!

[rare shell]

we could make a general modding thread and point people towards it

[blissful herald]

ok am i crazy or is the game's source code hard to read 😭

i hate functions that just take args, WHAT ARE THE ARGS TELL ME YOUR SECRETS

[hardy brook]

Okay, I'm trying to figure this out

I wanna make it so that the joker I have shatters any played glass cards

[vast kayak]

Shatter glass cards gain 0.1x mult start at 1x mult

[fickle elbow]

not what they meant

[vast kayak]

I was giving a description of what a joker would do

Is that not what they mean?

[fickle elbow]

they are asking if anyone knows how they would go about making a joker that shatters any glass cards played

[vast kayak]

Ah

I'm in the wrong chat room oops

[rare shell]

theres a shatter function

you call it when a scored card's enhancements are glass

i think its literally blah:shatter()

search that function through card.lua and you should be able to find something that checks for glass cards

[bold fiber]

So if I'm understanding it right, Balamod is better for altering the existing functionality of the game while Steamodded is better for add ons?

[rare shell]

i know anything that destroys cards checks if its a glass card first

if you want a more or less out of the box way to hook into consumeables and pools and what not from a compatibility standpoint as a coder you could go balamod, steamodded just happens to have more published mods for it

[bold fiber]

I ask because I'm trying to add secondary abilities to the existing jokers rather than add new ones

[cunning silo]

it's still possible using steamodded

[rare shell]

i think you could do that with steamodded yeah

you would have to localize the set_ability() function i think?

i know thats how stuff like to-do list has their bonus attributes like to_do_hand

[cunning silo]

it really depends on what function you want

you can also localize calculate_joker()

[rare shell]

i presume in this case paco's asking for ways to define additional attributes to existing jokers, like adding self.ability.to_do_hand to whatever joker, for whatever reason you'd need to do that

[cunning silo]

oh i see

[bold fiber]

I'm currently making the modifications right on the card.lua

Could I for example replace the entirety of the original card.lua with my modified version?

[cunning silo]

that's not a good idea

[rare shell]

thats not really a practical thing to do

[cunning silo]

and not really possible TBH

[rare shell]

youre much better off learning on how to build on top of it and calling the stuff you need to modify in your own .lua file

i didnt know how to localize functions until myst enlightened me

ill try pulling up an example of what i mean

[bold fiber]

Is there a smaller mod that I can look into? I tried figuring out how Jellymod works but didn't get very far, it's just too large

[rare shell]

you could try my mod, jankjonklers

[rare shell]

i personally learned from Multijokers though

[cunning silo]

this mod explains how the joker API works and how to use it

[rare shell]

what itay posted is like the most barebones and explanitory

would go with that

but never be afraid to look at how everyone else does certain things if you get confused

[cunning silo]

this is the basic mod from steamodded

[dusky reef]

I learned from Mika initially

[cunning silo]

but you should check out some other mods, since i don't know if this works

[dusky reef]

A very comprehensive mod that does a lot of things

[rare shell]

that is a strange way of initializing the joker yeah

https://github.com/iJohnMaged/multi-jokers/blob/main/MultiJokers.lua

[cunning silo]

yeah that's a good mod

[bold fiber]

Thanks, I'll look at a few different examples and come around when I have better defined questions

[rare shell]

very small mod, about 5 jokers, easy to figure out what sections of code do what

[fickle elbow]

same

[rare shell]

this chat is magical in that if you spend 5 hours stuck on a single bug, then get frustrated enough to type out your entire problem you magically realize the solution 5 seconds later

[fickle elbow]

i speat 4 hours figuring out why two sprites were the same, the problem? a one was a zero

[hardy brook]

So what? I do something like this?

idk the coding

I'm still learning it

[weak cairn]

Has anyone found the troll engine?

[hardy brook]

So

Figured out a way to make organizing your jokers and other card art easier

So yeah, there's your fun fact i guess

Unless someone already did it

[glad fern]

hey just wanted to ask how do i get modded stuff?

[fickle elbow]

I'm thinking of replacing the color icon in my mod, because it looks like chrome and was made in ms paint, but I don't know what symbol I should use for color.

[civic grail]

i can do it

what is it for exactly?

[fickle elbow]

a suit by the name color for this mod-> https://github.com/RattlingSnow353/InkAndColor

[civic grail]

ah a suit

can i steal a sample card?

[fickle elbow]

yea

[civic grail]

or your file for the suit

[fickle elbow]

theres two suits in the mod so they are combined

[civic grail]

oh god you made it with mixels

[fickle elbow]

i made it in ms paint

[civic grail]

does anyone have a png of a normal balatro playing card?

[civic grail]

mixels as in, pixel size isnt consistent

[fickle elbow]

yea

letme try to find one

does this work?

[civic grail]

awesome

[modern kiln]

Halfway through implementing Pi Joker - Here's my shitty sprite... @civic grail save me

[civic grail]

busy with rainbow deck hold please

[modern kiln]

haha no worries or rush

[civic grail]

@fickle elbow

simplified the symbol into a disk

and no more mixels

onto the void suit

[fickle elbow]

its suppose to be ink suit not void also this looks really good

[civic grail]

can i make the symbol an X?

to contrast the O shape and also because X is cool

[fickle elbow]

yea

[civic grail]

@fickle elbow are you sure about going black black?

or is that the point

[fickle elbow]

i mean im really just trying to get an ink effect/color if you can keep that possible somehow i don't mind if you mes with the color

mess

[civic grail]

im asking whether to use #000000 black or the #374649 balatro uses

[rare shell]

always go balatro black

[fickle elbow]

i dont really know the differce so i'l just go with balatros

[rare shell]

left is pure black

color palette sticks above a certain shade of color for the style

[fickle elbow]

oh, i suppose pure black creates the more desired effect

[rare shell]

it really pops out with everything else which isnt a good thing immo

myst what are you cooking

[grand geode]

:3c

[fickle elbow]

that just whcih ever you think would look better @civic grail

then, which

[rare shell]

i am missing critical information

[iron onyx]

I FIXED IT

[sleek granite]

is there any downside to the fusion effects or is it Just Better

[iron onyx]

the downsides are fringe cases

sometimes you want an extra joker for abstract or you lose out on an edition

but usually it's Just Better

[sleek granite]

also cant you then get the original jokers again or do i not know how this game works (yes)

[iron onyx]

but i fixed the problem i had with loc_def

you can, actually

and i have no idea how to prevent that

or if i even can

[rare shell]

maybe look into how challenges ban jokers

[grizzled sentinel]

why is it legendary

[grand geode]

chat i fucked up

[sleek granite]

very blind

[rare shell]

violet virgin

[grizzled sentinel]

"very large blind"

[rare shell]

but yeah, maybe look at how https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1220482344528510987 bans its jokers

[iron onyx]

mostly out of necessity; legendary jokers don't appear in places where other jokers do

[rare shell]

since that has code that prevents jokers from spawning in the same way that challenges do

[grand geode]

chat i fucked up

[iron onyx]

what the fuck

[rare shell]

myst's blinds if it was lore accurate

[grand geode]

BWAHA

[grizzled sentinel]

soul:

[iron onyx]

anyway, they're only legendary because that's the way to make them not spawn normally (i would assume)

but yeah, that's fair

[rare shell]

you can look at how cavendish is prevented from spawning

there's a flag that gets checked when gros michel dies that allows it to spawn

[iron onyx]

i should probably just look into other methods now that i have my own custom loc_def stuff working

[rare shell]

wait

[tall vessel]

guess you need to dig for that strush

[iron onyx]

yeah, i was the +ERROR guy awhile back

[rare shell]

why in the seven loving christs does this have the verdant symbol

[iron onyx]

been cracking at it

[grizzled sentinel]

||just sell a joker slot||

[grand geode]

3c_blob

what do you meannnn it's totally Big Blind

[rare shell]

mf made the zorua blind

[tall vessel]

There's 7-8-10 of Spades, if you find the 9 and 6/J you're set.

[rare shell]

myst i swear if this is like some kind of chameleon blind that secretly copies abilities i will develop a third eye

[civic grail]

@fickle elbow both options

[rare shell]

playing suit from OFF

[civic grail]

what its like with contrast

[fickle elbow]

it looks good i'll take a look at both in game to see which color of black i'll chose

[civic grail]

aight

[civic grail]

i might do this tomorrow

its late

ping me so i remember

[modern kiln]

sweet if you don't mind I totally will thanks!!

should have it up and running tomorrow too

[grand geode]

alright, looking for playtesters now

shoot me a dm if you wanna test what i have so far

[random breach]

hey can yall make this happen more than once its a mod that allows you to pick the first joker

local forced_joker_shop = nil
Orginal_get_current_pool = get_current_pool
function get_current_pool(_type, _rarity, _legendary, _append)
sendDebugMessage(inspectDepth(G.GAME.current_round))
if forced_joker_shop and G.shop and (_type == 'Joker' or _type== 'Tarot' or _type== 'Planet') and not (G.GAME.was_forced_joker_shop) then
local _pool, _pool_key = EMPTY(G.ARGS.TEMP_POOL), ''
G.GAME.was_forced_joker_shop = true
_pool_key = 'Joker'..(_rarity or pseudorandom('rarity'..G.GAME.round_resets.ante..(_append or '')) )..(_append or '')..G.GAME.round_resets.ante
_pool[#_pool + 1] = forced_joker_shop
return _pool, _pool_key
end
if G.shop and not (G.GAME.was_forced_joker_shop) then
G.GAME.was_forced_joker_shop = true
end
return Orginal_get_current_pool(_type, _rarity, _legendary, _append)
end

local Original_Controller_key_press_update = Controller.key_press_update
function Controller:key_press_update(key, dt)
Original_Controller_key_press_update(self, key, dt)
if key == 'f4' then
if self.hovering.target and self.hovering.target:is(Card) and G.SETTINGS.paused and not(G.GAME.was_forced_joker_shop) then
local joker_name_with_j = self.hovering.target.config.center.key
if string.find( joker_name_with_j,"j_" ) then
local edition = {negative = true}
self.hovering.target:set_edition(edition, true, true)
forced_joker_shop = joker_name_with_j
end
end
end
end

[grand geode]

i cannot read that

[random breach]

why?

[grand geode]

also #1221603094169784340?

[random breach]

oh sorry didnt know that existed

[grand geode]

no worries

[woeful finch]

also put your code in discord formatting

if this
  then that
end

( to do that, do this:)
```lua
this
```

[random breach]

sorry but since im here could you give me any tips?

[grand geode]

use lua formatting also smh

[woeful finch]

i dont know lua breh

[woeful finch]

oh yea do that

[random breach]

ok

but still how do i do it?

[round oar]

omfg the newline positioning here annoys me so much

[rare shell]

removing the check for if it was a forced joker shop should do it

or the updating of the forced joker shop variable

at least from a glance

[random breach]

ok what line is that?

im a noob at this lol

[woeful finch]

welcome to i dont know how to code lmao

[round oar]

i think it technically works though which is the worst part

[fickle elbow]

It looks awesome @civic grail

I might update the jokers to fit the suits new texture

[candid harbor]

If you needed this

[sleek granite]

now where's the guide on not sucking at art even if you use the right colors

[round oar]

(damn i forgot discord embeds text files)

(that kinda made it sound just mean)

[modern kiln]

we're in business homies

[manic anvil]

omg this is so cool

e joker next

[modern kiln]

Naturally

[lean dune]

ln(2) joker after that

"naturally"

[modern kiln]

{Log}ical next step

[lean dune]

oh my god

i hate loc def so much

[manic anvil]

6.02214129 would be pog

(Na)

[modern kiln]

There’s no way the art for avogadros number doesn’t have an avocado on it

Or maybe a nice pixel art Mole

[modern kiln]

Say more about the bug?

[lean dune]

there's no bug

it's just really obnoxious to get generate_card_ui to work with custom centers

[modern kiln]

I see, definitely out of my expertise - did you do it how Jelly did it?

[lean dune]

as you can see, it works now

[modern kiln]

Yeah it looks terrific, congrats on getting over the hump

[past tendon]

I realized that too lmao, using a curated palette def helps but art is just hard. people here who create great stuff just practiced a lot

[wide atlas]

Hey all, if I wanted to mod this game with little experience where would yall tell me to start?

[grand geode]

start by looking at other people's mods

[outer compass]

Hi, probably here => #1211716871267688488 message

[wide atlas]

Thank you so much!

[wide atlas]

Oh I didn’t write this well, I meant also like making the mods myself

[round oar]

the first thing you want to do is become familiar with how the language and the game engine works. then start by making mods that change individual small things about the game

[grand geode]

linearrowup

that was pretty much how i started modding any game

[gleaming talon]

That's also how I started

[rough horizon]

you can also have a look at the code of other mods

and the games source code

[lean dune]

pretty close right?

[UI ERROR]

[ocean torrent]

this plus perkeo

[lean dune]

oh no

[past tendon]

I love how perkeo makes everything broken

[ornate gull]

yooo

[sly carbon]

i am saving this very useful resource

[candid harbor]

the swatch library and palette files for photoshop and aseprite have been posted in #🎨・fan-art

so you can just import all the colors instantly

[sly carbon]

i don't use either of those apps for my pixeling, i know they're better than what i got though lol

thanks though!

[mossy cairn]

wait what

i removed mystjokers

[grand geode]

after changing your mod list, ya gotta do a new run

though i don't recall main.lua having 2385 lines

[mossy cairn]

squished 6 moment

[grand geode]

that 6 has seen some shit

[mossy cairn]

lol

[sleek granite]

twelve of spadiamonds

[grand geode]

..... Technically i could do that

but i am not working on MystBlinds atm

[lean dune]

...what

now what could I call a boss blind that debuffs stars

[grand geode]

the sun

obviously

[candid harbor]

The Progenitor

or like The Void

[grand geode]

but do you have a symbol to go with it

[mossy cairn]

Meteor

[sleek granite]

cloud cover prevents seeing the stars in the sky...

[hardy brook]

Black Hole

[iron onyx]

better answer: the void

[small ether]

What button is fast restart run for switch?

[hardy brook]

I only said Black hole because it eats stars.

[candid harbor]

Entropy might be a good fit too

[lean dune]

i considered black hole (or supernova, for that (anti)matter), but I don't want duplicate names for different things

[hardy brook]

Oh right there’s the black hole spectral

[drowsy urchin]

question, what mod loader/injector is better

[hardy brook]

Most people use steamodded but it depends on preference tbh

[drowsy urchin]

alright thank you

is it normal that the steamodded injector gets detected as a virus

[ornate gull]

yeah thats the virus making you recommend steamodded getting installed /s

[grand geode]

Install using Lovely

[ornate gull]

its a patcher to an executable, an av expects that to be a virus

[drowsy urchin]

oooh

[lean dune]

omg I'm so original

[tepid sentinel]

Wouldnt it be the other way around? Eclipse boss debuffs star cards, like the Sun?

[lean dune]

but how does the void debuff moons?

[tepid sentinel]

that i dont know i just think the eclipse suits better the other ability, my opinion though, its your mod at the end of the day

Debuffing moon could be New Moon

[covert condor]

Just found the modding pool, decided to install 25 mods to try out

Did this

I love this community

[dapper helm]

reshuffled screenshots are always so cursed

[covert condor]

Thankfully I didnt find a Negative tag

Otherwise my brain will be fried

[grand geode]

i'm so sorry for your loss

[dapper helm]

also anaglyph always ends up like this for me, like 7 double tags and nothing to use them on

[jovial hornet]

Have this issue where my game has like 2 bugs that i've found and only found while having 2 mods installed, steammodded and Increasejokercapacity, as shown in the photo there should be a straight 10 - A, but is playing the hand as a High Card, besides that bug i've found that spectral packs in the shop dont show up anymore, played till ante 12 and haven't seen a spectral pack in the shop, Any thoughts on how to fix this ?

[tepid sentinel]

you're not alone, i saw more people having the same bug

[sly carbon]

i seen some folks talking about aces being bugged in terms of making straights with them in the latest steammod version

[dapper helm]

are you using the latest steamodded hotfix?

pretty sure they put out a hotfix just for that

[lean dune]

yep that's fixed in steamodded 0.8.2

[jovial hornet]

Yes, and the problem was still there, however i tried using the ahk version and the straight issue dissapear, but the spectral pack bug is still there

I dont know why tbh, dont have a clue on coding or anything like that sorry for ny ignorance

[lean dune]

huh, haven't seen anyone bring that up, maybe it's just weird luck

I'm not sure anyone touched that logic

[dapper helm]

yeah i think you should try another run and see if it still doesn't show up, might just be luck

[jovial hornet]

I've put it to the test, played 3 games without any mods installed and found spectral packs on the shop on almost every ante, did the same with 2 just mods, and no spectral packs in the shop for 3 games in a row

[lean dune]

have you tried with just steamodded and no additional mods? one of the mods you have installed might be the issue as well

[dapper helm]

you're on 0.8.2 steamodded right?

[grand geode]

i've definitely seen spectrals while testing my mod methinks

[jovial hornet]

Yws

[jovial hornet]

Dont think i've tried that yet

[lean dune]

which mods do you have installed?

[jovial hornet]

But only have a mod called Increasejokercapacity and steamodded

You want me to give you the link ? To that mod

[dapper helm]

idk then good luck, i only know the IT type solutions of "update to the newest version" and "restart it"

[grand geode]

yup spectral still exists

[lean dune]

also just found one on ante 2

must just be bad luck then

[grand geode]

yeah

[jovial hornet]

Ill give it another try, but is there a way to check if something is wrong ?

[lean dune]

lol

[haughty hinge]

can anyone make an option to disable sci notation?

[lean dune]

sure, why not

[glad fern]

hey i asked yesterday but forgot to respond how do i get started in modding

[tired ibex]

why is it small

[dusky reef]

Oh btw I remembered somebody did a larger than usual joker before

Does anybody remember that? Have they ever released the joker?

[past tendon]

this one ?

[dusky reef]

Yaaas

[past tendon]

it's from this mod

[dusky reef]

Awesome

Thx

[modern kiln]

A good way to start for me was to download Steamodded and then start modifying the JokerAPI example mod (jokerAPI.lua) and play around with making a Joker - helps to look at other people's mods and potentially source if you're up for it

[young obsidian]

fye

[twin basin]

i'm getting this error after installing a shit ton of mods

mostly joker mods

ok i put the game_modifications.lua in there and it stopped complaining about it

woohoo i get to play the game with basically every joker mod

[arctic bough]

which all

[tepid sentinel]

Anyone knows why this isnt working from a fast glance at it?

SMODS.Sprite:new("roulette", SMODS.findModByID("Roulette").path, "roulette2.png", 50, 50, "asset_images"):register()

[azure mulch]

WHEN CAN I DOWNLOAD PRETTY SUIT MOD 😭😭🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[dapper helm]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1221606622208720916 ✨

[azure mulch]

theres no releases 😭😭😭😭

[tepid sentinel]

nvm i think i know whats wrong

[azure mulch]

yayy mrowrowroooowww

[dapper helm]

this button (i'm on mobile rn so the page looks different), or you can click the assets folder and lua individually to download them

[tepid sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/good-fine-great-ok-extra-gif-15010542366392231786

[dull mortar]

Im on mobile too

[azure mulch]

OHH TYSM IM STUPID ILY TY

[dull mortar]

Rn that's why my account is different

[dapper helm]

yw

[azure mulch]

the trangenders always help me :D

[dapper helm]

lmao

[dull mortar]

I'm going to be improving the jokers for the mod when I'm back on my pc

[fallow bramble]

I've decided to give Balatro modding a go and so far i've been able to do something simple, just trying to get the hang of things, might do more. (joker based of one of my friend's oc)

[ocean torrent]

mrowowowowow

[lost solar]

hey, are there any resources here on how I could make my own mod for Balatro? like, would there be a way for me to look at the game's source code to modify that or any other tips would be appreciated!

[rare shell]

wew

oops

#1211716871267688488 message

[lost solar]

i've installed steamodded, but are there any specific resources on creating mods as opposed to simply running them

[rare shell]

the steamodded github has a bunch of example mods inside of its repo

other than that, your best bet is to look at simpler, smaller mods, and work off of that

[azure mulch]

mrrp :3

[rare shell]

https://github.com/iJohnMaged/multi-jokers/blob/main/MultiJokers.lua

this is the one i usually suggest for people starting to mod to look at

(i pretty much just snagged the first few lines of code that set up sprite rending tbh)

[ocean torrent]

meooow :3

[rare shell]

im deploying the blahajs

[azure mulch]

[azure mulch]

whag

[rare shell]

[azure mulch]

[languid hearth]

the lyman jonklers go crazy

[dense dock]

bomb them

[coral shale]

so I was tinkering today

[tepid sentinel]

noice

[rare shell]

oh hell yes

[modern kiln]

this is so sick

[digital compass]

Nice. Could you do expected score even given the random ranges?

I’m curious how low that value skews in the range

[rare shell]

#1221215713910325330 message

😛

hello chat

[cobalt wedge]

That looks awesome!

And was similar in artwork to what I imagined a Cowboy Joker would look like

[coral shale]

Yeah could do, but not planning to rn, sorry

[rare shell]

the bullet holes are properly transparent

🫡

[fallow bramble]

Love the art

[drowsy urchin]

I just played some modded and it is really fun

[cobalt wedge]

I would like to try learning to make mods some time. I have many ideas (mostly probably dumb)

[lunar fable]

why is it whenever i select something that if played would trigger an efeect it triggers?

[lean dune]

is this https://canary.discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1221215713910325330 ?

[lunar fable]

?

[lean dune]

do you have that mod installed?

[coral shale]

If it is, try upgrading to latest version of the mod. I haven't gotten any mis-trigger complaints on it yet

[fickle elbow]

finished updating the jokers to fit with the suits

[lunar fable]

im on 1.8.2

[coral shale]

Just to clarify, my mod is not compatible with jokers from other mods*

[lunar fable]

ah

[coral shale]

(yet 👀 )

[kindred venture]

Hello, new to modding here. How do I download the steammodded with the lovely injector on windows? I can't find the dwmapi.dll on github.

[gleaming talon]

tis on lovely github page

https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/releases/tag/v0.3.1

[kindred venture]

Thank you!

[gleaming talon]

WE NEED MORE CHANNEL

[fallow bramble]

Second joker done. If I get to like 5/6 or more I'll prob make it it's own post in #1209506514763522108

[sonic pollen]

Anyone here have any experience/knowledge in creating a novel menu for their mod?

Trying to make the sense of the menu classes and not having a good time of it

[tepid sentinel]

Hopefully i'll end my mod in a few days time and im trying to write comments on some things for people that might find it useful in the future while looking at my mod. This said there's things I still dont understand fully about the UI but i do find myself a lot more confortable than i did 4 days ago when I was pretty lost. Maybe by the time im done with the mod you dont need help anymore but ill try to answer anything i can though as I said there's things i havent seen/done/understood yet

Though I'd use some help too if someone is reading this, but my problem is a lot more specific and i've spent some time now tryng to fix it, but no luck.

[coral shale]

I'm pretty comfy with UIBoxes, feel free to DM me

[dapper helm]

would it be possible to put a card back into the draw pile?

[candid harbor]

DNA does it, so I assume yes

[dapper helm]

that puts it in hand no?

[candid harbor]

Sorry yea, brain fart

[rare shell]

DNA creates a copy of the card, not redraw it, yeah

[dapper helm]

i was thinking of old seals i'd heard mentioned and made the same mistake lol

[coral shale]

Sure, the deck is just a bunch of card objects

Check G.deck

[dapper helm]

ok thanks

[olive warren]

Hello, good evening, where is the documentation to be able to program a mod using lua?

[tepid sentinel]

Comments left in the game code, some examples in the Steammodded and Balamod repos, and others people mods

There's a thread somewhere in the server about starting to mod too

[ocean torrent]

ive been trying to download this for so long it wont let me (modloader) can someone hlp 😭

[lost solar]

you need to turn off windows defender for the download

[ocean torrent]

i dont think you can

[lost solar]

you just need to go to your defender settings and tell it to not scan for that specific download

i literally did it today so i know it's possible

[ocean torrent]

got it

thanks

[umbral pilot]

you should probably use this method if you keep having problems https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1217867725532041369

ah nice

[fickle elbow]

I'm having trouble making a card similar to square joker.

[blissful herald]

my balatro overloaded brain saw the images of the jokers bobbing as they would in the game 💀

[rare shell]

what do you mean by "similar to square joker"?

like trying to get it to proc on a specific hand condition or having it increment its chips?

[dull mortar]

I figured out the problem and my pc lost Internet

I made the joker increment what a specific suit played

[civic grail]

@modern kiln

it was weird implementing the pi sequence in the BG

thoughts?

[modern kiln]

oh grassy

I love the picnic table background and the pie

[civic grail]

yes or no to the numbers

this is no sequence

[modern kiln]

I feel like you did a great job making them subtle, but do you think it's still too busy having them?

[civic grail]

its your joker

lol

[modern kiln]

yeah but you have a better eye for these things than I do

[civic grail]

sequence is subtle, but no sequence is super clean

[modern kiln]

yeah super clean

thoughts on a pi symbol watermark instead of numbers?

like one big one behind the pie and the text?

[civic grail]

might be tough to see

would be here lol

[modern kiln]

I think the UI text covers the digits well enough, I say go with clean - only other thought is maybe putting pi symbols in the corners, but if you think that is also a bit too busy I would totally get that

[dull mortar]

I think the pie in the shape of the pi symbol would look cool and get the point across

[civic grail]

i agree, but also its already a circle and i would have to redraw everything

[crisp jasper]

personally i thought the sequence was such a cool way of harmonizing the idea of pie with the actual function of pi w/ the tablecloth
the way it serves as a partial reminder of some things you could use is cool too

[civic grail]

theres also the option of giving the tablecloth pattern to the numbers and wiping the bg out

[dull mortar]

@civic grail when you can do you think you could make art for the secondary joker to the ink suit based on the gem hematite?

[modern kiln]

what about putting little decorative numbers (kinda like birthday candles) on the crust of the pie? That being said I already think the card looks amazing so if you're ready to move on then that's cool too!

[dull mortar]

That would look cool

[modern kiln]

Grassy just goes into the shop and comes back with gold every time

[civic grail]

oh yalls actually like this one?

damn

[dull mortar]

And I thought golf was supposed to be rare

Gold*

[civic grail]

heres ur pngs

[civic grail]

[modern kiln]

Thank you!!

[civic grail]

npnp

[civic grail]

you mean the rough gem/bloodstone counterpart?

[dull mortar]

Yea

[civic grail]

oh joy

tbh ive had a backlog of jokers i wanted to do for Mika's mod

[dull mortar]

I got the code in it took me 5 hours because I can't read

[civic grail]

i might do those first

[dull mortar]

I can wait

[civic grail]

ignore that

[dull mortar]

I've been procrastinating on stuff I need to do

[civic grail]

though im curious, @modern kiln how DID you import your pi sequence?

for your original sprite

if you say manually i will cry

[modern kiln]

so I used Krita

and did a vector layer for text

and pasted in a ton of digits for pi

and then manually adjusted font size and spacing and whatnot

[civic grail]

ah got it

well pro tip

https://www.gamergeeks.net/apps/pixel/letter-text-generator
use this website, take a precise screenshot, and adjust in your pixel art program

well thats how I did

it keeps the font consistent

[modern kiln]

thank you for the pro tip

ok while we're on the subject, PiJoker is working but I have two concerns about it:

1. So much card text

2. Mechanic might be too awkward for normal gameplay

Should it be scored cards instead of played cards? Other ideas?

[dull mortar]

You could make it 0.1 or 0.01 mult drop the incorrect cards but and make it for scored cards

[modern kiln]

Good idea ^

[crisp jasper]

ehhh

i think scored would make it very niche given a lot of times that would mean you're getting at most like
a 2 of kind even out of the ideal sequence of 5
so progessing it would scale so pathetically it'd be practically unusable

id go with played but a slightly lower mult progression

[dull mortar]

Is that not what I suggested?

[crisp jasper]

no? you suggested it being scored, and dramatically lower mult, which would make it the absolute bottom of the barrel when combined in that specific way

played allows you to actually build the mult at a reasonable pace and therefore actually embrace a unique style emerging from it

maybe i misread what you were saying?

[dull mortar]

I suggested dropping incorrect resets, and I'm now seeing the difference between scored and played but 0.1 mult should be a decent amount

[crisp jasper]

yeah i agree, 0.1 mult feels fair for played

[modern kiln]

ok so to recap, we're thinking 0.1 mult increment on played pi cards, and a decrement of .1 on incorrect played cards?

[dull mortar]

I suggested getting rid of incorrect plays doing anything, also did you mean 0.01 decrements?

[modern kiln]

Oh yes you did say 0.01 decrements, but I'm wondering if that's a little too strong - happy to have y'all playtest a couple versions though if you're interested!

[crisp jasper]

incorrect decrementing by the same margin feels fair to me, you can afford to go off pattern for something really good without nuking it entirely while still being encouraged to keep up the pattern

[dull mortar]

Yea tho I might have to wait till my Internet decides it wants to work

[crisp jasper]

I'd definitely be interested in trying it out

[dull mortar]

When using an antenna what's the best way to have it for a PC?

I tend to disconnect for about 2 hours of the total time I'm on it

[crisp jasper]

honestly, no idea, I've never had to use an antenna for my computer before, but maybe someone else lurking will know?

[dull mortar]

Only downside of a good PC

[fickle elbow]

yay, i got internet back 🙂

[fickle elbow]

do you think this is fair?

it only applies the chip bonus if a ink suit card is scored and adds 5 chips to it when it scores.

[grand geode]

what's Wee Joker again

+4 or +8

[modern kiln]

• 8

[grand geode]

ig if that's like a rare but Wee Joker procs much less than a specific suit

[fickle elbow]

its uncommon

[modern kiln]

I kind of agree, maybe +3?

[grand geode]

uncommon is such a powercreep tbh

[fickle elbow]

so +3?

[grand geode]

you get 13 cards to proc this, while only 4 (6 with the mod ig) to proc Wee

and changing suits is far easier than adding 2s

[fickle elbow]

the chips also dont apply unless the suit is scored

[grand geode]

you'd play Flushes with this

[fickle elbow]

so to balance this make it +3 instead?

[modern kiln]

I would try +3 with a flush build and see if it becomes too strong too quick

btw working on getting out a PiJoker repo for you, realized I can't let it decrement below x1

oh also do you think it would be better to have it reset back to 3 on incorrect, or just stay where it is? I have 100 digits hardcoded in so it could probably work both ways in most cases

[fickle elbow]

just have it loop

[lunar fable]

i have 6th sense and whn i played a six this happened

[sly carbon]

for the folks responsible for steammodded or whatever else, would it be possible to make it so i can set a custom card front texture for a specific deck?

[modern kiln]

there are some people working on custom card front pngs, I'm working on custom editions, which are you looking for specifically?

[sly carbon]

neither of those, i am make texture and i want to have one of my own custom decks use a custom front texture without changing the texture on all the other decks

[dapper helm]

the deck visual or the playing cards?

[sly carbon]

the playing cards

as a specific example, i have seen a deck irl which replaced the Hearts suit with Apples because new york or something

[dapper helm]

thats a really interesting idea

[sly carbon]

yeah, that's my plan, i just wanna know if the people who are better at this than i am can set up support for it lol

[sleek granite]

custom editions 👀 sounds cool anything so far?

[modern kiln]

well you see

I had a pretty big breakthrough earlier today, and then got distracted by getting this guy ready for you all to playtest:
https://github.com/erachlin/PiJoker

[modern kiln]

But I have successfully gotten to the point where I can load my own (or others!) shader code as an edition, so give me a day or two to show some stuff off

[sleek granite]

exciting stuff anyhow, sounds like it should be pretty cool

[modern kiln]

yeah I've got some fun ideas I'm excited to get feedback and collaborate on! I'll post something here when I get my first custom shader up and running

[fickle elbow]

like suits?

[sly carbon]

including, but not limited to

another of my ideas is a Large Print Deck

[fickle elbow]

i added two suits to the game so i may be able to help a little

[sly carbon]

you can message me if you can help, i'll be working on the textures this weekend!

[fickle elbow]

yea, i'll be back in like 14 hours and possible for a short while in about 8

[sly carbon]

goodnight!

[vestal crag]

Which modding framework gets more support?

[weak flume]

I was wondering, if it exists, and if not, how hard would it be to make a mod that applies only the effects of black stake (eternals in shop) without the previous stakes

[grand geode]

it's piss easy

[weak flume]

oh hella, guess i'm gonna have to learn to mod this game then lol

[sleek granite]

love this font

[mossy cairn]

blind idea: "huge blind"
it replaces big blind at 20%
score is base*5

[round oar]

today i learnt that wee joker is internally recognised as just 'wee'

[viscid spear]

decided to make it wasier to see what cards ive gold staked

[round oar]

that's actually sick

[fallow bramble]

Wonder what you'll do for red card

[viscid spear]

i dont think ill have to worry about it ive never won with it lmao

[scenic surge]

That looks sooo good!

[lean dune]

Steamodded has had my playing card API for a good while now. I haven't experimented with this yet, but perhaps you could override an existing suit with it?

[sly carbon]

for just one deck?

[lean dune]

it probably doesn't work out of the box the way it's set up now, alternatively you could create a new suit and swap them out using yes_suits or no_suits on challenge.deck in Back:apply_to_run

though it won't be equivalent to the old suit to jokers

[drowsy urchin]

modding seems really fun in this game kinda wanna try it

is it hard to learn the basics of how to make mods?

[fallow bramble]

Depends what you're trying to do, what I did to learn was checking other's mods and looking at how the game's code work

[drowsy urchin]

alr i just like doing stuff and seeing that it changes what happens, it feels so monkey brain but its so much fun

im gonna try and learn how tf this game works

[fallow bramble]

Good luck

[drowsy urchin]

thank you

[hardy brook]

So a balatro update is coming it seems. Don’t think it’ll affect the mod engines but make backup just in case

https://reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1bpq1bp/update_from_thunk/

This is definitely gonna affect Archived

[lean dune]

Oh good to know. I'll know to keep my 1.0.0 dump of the source code around so I can compare and look for changes that affect Steamodded. With all functionalities it has, it's likely something will have to change

[weak flume]

noteably, it is trivial to download old builds of the game through steam

[grand geode]

can't wait for the update to secretly have 3 billion backend changes

[lean dune]

oh I'm definitely expecting some

[fallow bramble]

Where can I see the full stack traceback, is there a log saved somewhere?

[lean dune]

it gets written to the debug window if you have the websocket active

[fallow bramble]

It's a bit too short sadly

Can't scroll down or something

[lean dune]

the tk_debug_window one, but currently it doesn't get saved if you don't have that active, sadly

it should probably save a dump somewhere

[fallow bramble]

Where do I activate this?

[lean dune]

it's a python script on the steamodded repo

[strong falcon]

Is there a way to check if another mod is loaded, without having it be required?

I want to add support for some of the custom seals mod, but only if they're installed

[runic kraken]

Is this too weak or too strong?

[weak flume]

seems very weak, asking for 5 joker slots and 4 rounds to get a 6x that if you use a second slot for scales by only 1.5 is not great

[drowsy urchin]

its kind like madness except it scales more but its harder to scale and harder to obtain cool idea but it needs either a buff or a better way to get it

[sleek granite]

wait but you lose the cultist tho so you have no engine for them anymore

[drowsy urchin]

yeah you would need a second cultist

i think if you could keep te cultist it would work

[weak flume]

cries in painted deck

[drowsy urchin]

just get antimatter ez

[grand geode]

prolly not feasible to survive to ante 2 with 4 mult assuming you get cultist first shop or something

[runic kraken]

yea you are probably right

[drowsy urchin]

what if hyroglyph

[grand geode]

any later and it's basically unplayable

[sleek granite]

also consider: shop now has four more jokers that it can show you that are strictly worse than the basic joker

[drowsy urchin]

okay but most runs have useless jokers in the shop

[alpine cosmos]

yeah but this is especially useless

[drowsy urchin]

true ig

[alpine cosmos]

maybe make the individual pieces have different effects, and they're also slightly stronger?

[drowsy urchin]

that could work

[sleek granite]

i'd personally consider giving each piece some kind of synergy effect for how many pieces you have

[alpine cosmos]

oooh

[sleek granite]

cuz i do appreciate that each piece is 1/4th a basic joker at base-level for flavor reasons

[grand geode]

still doesn't really work if cultist shows up later in the game

[alpine cosmos]

one could be +6 mult
one is +30 chips
one is like, one is 1.25 xmult
one is +2 cash

then they increase for each piece they have

maybe

[sleek granite]

also, i'd hope cultist can't repeat pieces

[runic kraken]

no thats just my for my cosmics

[fickle elbow]

gemstones wise what'd think about bismuth for color and hematite for ink

[alpine cosmos]

that would be cool

[sleek granite]

gonna see if i can upgrade this from Cursed Image to Real Functional Card In The Game
scream

[weak flume]

3 of 3s

[sleek granite]

three of threes

[weak flume]

I love it

[alpine cosmos]

i think thats just called 9

[lean dune]

now make suits for every rank

[sleek granite]

"+3 chips, triggers three times, suitless"

[lean dune]

"King of Queens"

[sleek granite]

lol, no, this is tying in with the question i asked a few days ago about unique playing cards

[weak flume]

I'd rather have a Queen of Kings

[alpine cosmos]

what about a Jack of s

that was a bad one

im sorry

[sleek granite]

is latest steamodded still notably unstable/janky or should i just update i remember people sayin stuff was busted earlier

[lean dune]

at least straights behave properly in 0.8.2

there might still be jank some places, reports are always welcome

[sleek granite]

i love programming, man
why is this FALSE

[azure mulch]

girl i have a friend named autumn what the heck

[sleek granite]

well it's not me cuz i dont have friends <3

[azure mulch]

awh im sure you could make some at least online? also the name is cute and very transfem coded

[grand geode]

because lua i think

hm i haven't seen any transfem autumns actually

[sleek granite]

tbf this is the full extent of the three of threes code itself so like yeah i believe it doesn't work right but really i get luajanked immediately cmon

[sleek granite]

i dont understand how this apparently works for "proper" suits but fails to work for my dummy 'suit' so

[lean dune]

well first of all, there's also SMODS.Card.SUITS, which has the actual data for suits

i would expect crashes if you make a suit exist but have no data for it

[sleek granite]

yeah but it's not even reaching code that checks that

it's crashing when trying to view the deck, and crashes because it tries to insert the Three of Threes into the 'dummy' suit's table, which is apparently nil; despite the fact that there IS a 'dummy' suit table it just doesn't believe the two are the same

[lean dune]

I have an idea on how I can make this work

[sleek granite]

at least, that's what i understand from this & lovely's patched dump

like i'd get it if it was trying to index 'dummy' from SMODS.Card.SUITS, because that doesn't exist and i'd just be like "yeah that makes sense let's fix that next" but it's not even getting there ^^"

[lean dune]

UI stuff in this game is jank

[weak flume]

where do the error logs get created to?

LoadError 2024-03-28 10:39:54.txt created because of an injectHead into create_card! Check the file for your error!

[sleek granite]

i've gathered that a lot of things in this game happen to be jank

[lean dune]

I'd say you'd still need an entry in SUITS, because that's where I draw the suit nominal from, which is required for sorting the cards into the view deck screen

but I might add something like a None suit as well as the option to create a suit but not create any cards for it

[sleek granite]

drawing the card into the hand "works" :pained_smile:

[lean dune]

try playing it lmao

ideally nothing happens

[sleek granite]

already did and it worked about as well as you'd expect

[lean dune]

yep looks like missing data to me

[sleek granite]

yeah i don't expect it to fully work i was just hoping for at least one thing to work haha

[sleek granite]

i think i might just wait for this haha (also try doing this with more time on my hands later)

[dapper helm]

holy shit its the card

[sleek granite]

i have no idea why it has no sprite, if anything would work it should be that

(note that i did add sprite code haha, ik the previous code didn't have any)

[fallow bramble]

Been spending some time on this joker now and I can't figure out why the x_mult of 3 is not being picked up

[lunar fable]

what couses this?

this is my mods

[lean dune]

you have an incomplete installation of one of your mods

[dusky spire]

Unsure if the concept exists yet, but is there a mod that can sort jokers in the most optimized scoring way? i.e. chips + additives in front, scalers in the back? I can imagine this might be useful for games where you have so many jokers it becomes difficult/impossible to order them properly (basing this on skootie's greener pastures video)

[magic sandal]

I mean it's tedious but it's not really hard to do manually, considering even 10 jokers is something you'll likely never see

Although I don't think there is a mod like that

[runic kraken]

Playtested a bit, getting the cultist before Ante 4 should give you an easy Jimbo, Ante 5 is possible but relies on editions or more joker slots, everything after that might be possible but extremely hard

[arctic bough]

damnnnn

bro is going crazy

[patent pagoda]

this just appeared today when booting up on steam deck, how do i disable? ive not been trying to mod anything. EDIT thanks for the help it was just steamdeck

[cosmic shell]

that's not related to balatro, it's a setting in the steamdeck quick menu (three dots button)

[patent pagoda]

ohhh it looked like a custom non steam font thank you jeez

sorry

happy to be proven stupid :)

[tepid sentinel]

someone experienced with the UI of the game,
in a button , is it possible to pass the same element as an a argument to the function thats called when its pressed?

[haughty hinge]

yall think i can win?

[fallow bramble]

I don't understand how a card like "Ramen" can get his x mult from its local variable but if I make a 1:1 exact modded copy it doesn't

[lean dune]

it should work fine if you use the correct contexts in your joker's calculate function

and you need to declare it first, obviously

[fallow bramble]

SMODS.Jokers.j_burger.calculate = function(self, context)
        if context.discard then
            if self.ability.name == 'Burger' and not context.blueprint then
                if self.ability.x_mult - self.ability.extra <= 1 then 
                    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                        func = function()
                            play_sound('tarot1')
                            self.T.r = -0.2
                            self:juice_up(0.3, 0.4)
                            self.states.drag.is = true
                            self.children.center.pinch.x = true
                            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after', delay = 0.3, blockable = false,
                                func = function()
                                        G.jokers:remove_card(self)
                                        self:remove()
                                        self = nil
                                    return true; end})) 
                            return true
                        end
                    })) 
                    return {
                        message = localize('k_eaten_ex'),
                        colour = G.C.FILTER
                    }
                else
                    self.ability.x_mult = self.ability.x_mult - self.ability.extra
                    return {
                        delay = 0.2,
                        message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult_minus',vars={self.ability.extra}},
                        colour = G.C.RED
                    }
                end
            end
        end
    end

Seems right to me

It's declared as well

[lean dune]

yeah that seems alright

so what's not working