⚙・modding-general

[haughty hinge]

you motherfu-

save editing can't save me from bad rng

[uncut terrace]

G.hand.cards

[rare shell]

im trying to iterate through held hands but i dont think im using the right call

oh

i guess i am

                if context.cardarea == G.hand then
                    if self.ability.name == 'Alloyed Joker' then
                        for k, v in ipairs(G.hand.cards) do
                            if v.ability.name == 'Steel Card' then
                                G.GAME.dollar_buffer = (G.GAME.dollar_buffer or 0) + self.ability.extra.dollars
                                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({func = (function() G.GAME.dollar_buffer = 0; return true end)}))
                                return {
                                    dollars = self.ability.extra.dollars,
                                    card = self
                                }
                            end
                        end
                    end
                end```

am i stupid?

(i know theres no debuff check here, im just trying to get this to work at all)

[cosmic shell]

you could also do context.end_of_round and context.individual, that's run on for every card in the hand at the end of round so wouldn't need a for loop, there's even an empty branch for it at line 2804.

[rare shell]

ah its cropped out but it is under context.end_of_round and individual

[haughty hinge]

any link to a sort of tutorial to get started on this type of coding in general?

[cosmic shell]

oh so then you don't need to loop through cards, you should use context.other_card instead

[rare shell]

i may have had a brain fart because i was copying the code from mime

i just did that and testing it right now

hmmm

nope

[cosmic shell]

maybe check against golden ticket, since that also does stuff to individual cards with an ability

[rare shell]

the ability checking isnt the problem since i used this code with other jokers

[white scarab]

That’s just sandwiching

[uncut terrace]

Maybe use sendDebugMessage to check if your code path is getting hit

[rare shell]

havent used sendDebugMessage before tbh

i did get rid of the Steel Card check just to see if that was the issue and it wasnt

[white scarab]

I’ve literally never used sendDebugMessage in my entire time working with mod loaders lol

I just print() it

[rare shell]

where does it print to? is it just printed on screen?

you know

i think i have a different solution

looking through i figure i can just give steel cards h_dollars of 3

[white scarab]

The way I use it is running the game from the command line with balatro --console

[rare shell]

did not know this, thank you

question then, how would i go about giving steel cards h_dollars of 3 🤔

is there a way of passively giving a specific suite of cards a variable bonus?

[clever rampart]

how can i make it so the player starts with an eternal joker, just how to make a starting joker eternal?

[rare hill]

oh, guess I need to reinstall my modloader again

[rare shell]

update day

[rare shell]

i really thought this would be easier than it is

wait it works

its REAL jank but it applies h_dollars to all steel cards when a hand is played

now i just need to figure out how to undo that when its destroyed

thinking about it the h_dollar method might be more cumbersome than checking end of round

[rare shell]

okay yeah i have no clue whats going on with context.end_of_round

i keep getting crashes when im not in context.individual and context.individual does nothing

maybe i need check for context.cardarea == G.hand??

nope

heres the snippet im trying to do it with

        elseif context.end_of_round then
            if context.individual then
                if self.ability.name == 'Alloyed Joker' then
                    G.GAME.dollar_buffer = (G.GAME.dollar_buffer or 0) + 5
                    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({func = (function() G.GAME.dollar_buffer = 0; return true end)}))
                end
            end```

actual code in the middle doesnt really matter, im just trying to get the trigger as soon as the winning hand is played, but before it goes to the payout screen. my crashes actually seem to happen right around here so i think im in the right place but im not sure if im able to scan the hand during this context

[quiet moth]

hello friends im a frequent poster in fan-art & i am infiltrating the modding chat ask if are there any modders in here with a lot of ideas for mods but dont have the best artistic skills but want a way to bring their ideas to life? i am gauging interest for a project that might help programmers who cant art but want to practice to artists who cant code but want to make fun jokers haha react, reply or add me 🤝

[strong swift]

scroll through #1155557846805643434 until you find something good

[quiet moth]

that’s a good idea! i figured i’d reach out here to trying to connect people who want to make some nice modpacks for the game but i will look through there too maybe for peeps that had are looking for the same thing

[empty brook]

lmao fuck i was actually looking for a way to code in this effect for a joker idea i had, seems i took too long. really glad to see someone who is better at both code and art got to it though!!!

also it's weird that tag thing didn't work....

[safe stratus]

is there anyone working on multiplayer mods? I've never used lua before but it doesn't seem too bad to pick up

friend wanted me to make a mod similar to spire with friends which seems somewhat feasible if lua has decent networking capabilities

[grand geode]

balatro already uses https.lua so maybe

[rare shell]

yeah the thing is i havent actually made the end of round part work unfortunately lmao

[empty brook]

lol that was my issue i was having too, so unfortunately i'm no help there

if i DO make any progress on figuring it out i'll let you know though!

[rare shell]

🫡

coding comrades

[clever rampart]

how do i make a deck that has more cards than usual pls i want an actual answer ;-;

[wanton rapids]

how many custom jokers have been made so far?

[rare shell]

i have 9 so far

10 once i figure out this gold card problem

[clever rampart]

why is this not adding more cards?

[wanton rapids]

spiral joker now has an effect. it's very interesting

misprint sidegrade

[grand geode]

misprint upgrade actually

on average this pays more i think

[wanton rapids]

oh wait

should be 7*

[grand geode]

dam

[wanton rapids]

10+7cos(pi/9 * $$)

misprint pays 11.5 on average

[grand geode]

wait isn't cos 0-1

[wanton rapids]

cos is -1 to 1

payouts

[grand geode]

ah i didn't see the 7*

[wanton rapids]

yeah it's not in the image

[rare shell]

does it round up

[wanton rapids]

because i forgot to add it

rounds to closest integer

ok i made it loop every 16 so there's no values next to each other that are the same

[rare shell]

so it goes up to 17 mult?

[wanton rapids]

yeah

doesn't go as high or as low as misprint

but can be controlled

[rare shell]

what is misprints range even

[wanton rapids]

0-23

[ripe haven]

kind of unrelated - is there a way to jump to the first post in a thread? trying to return to the OP on some of the mod threads is painful

[cosmic shell]

you might also need to check that context.cardarea == G.hand like with jokers that act on individual cards during a played hand

[empty brook]

hiya, folks. another night, another time where i look at code and ask it why it refuses to do what i want

so, i have a friend who made some cool dark mode cards, and they want me to turn it into a mod. i agreed to it, figured it'd be pretty easy

annnnnd it's not working--at least, not exactly? here's the code i have

the issue is that it only is keeping the bottom line. so, in this case, it only does high-contrast cards, but ignores the Enhancers and the regular cards

[grand geode]

because you are overwriting sprite_card each time

change the variable names and register each one individually

[empty brook]

yep that fixed it. thanks!!

[wanton rapids]

hm

[exotic dagger]

missing charm

[wanton rapids]

no art yet

[grand geode]

unlucky charm

[wanton rapids]

hm

to hook into the end of round money givers would i use a ref?

[hexed surge]

epic run

too much king of heart

that run was great

[haughty hinge]

anyone know how the acceleration works?

[torpid oxide]

Hey I finally got something

[haughty hinge]

oh yea you can mod in reversed tarots now

[grand geode]

goes hard with 2s

[empty brook]

reversed tarots...

reversed strength sounds kind of useful actually--both for 2s becoming aces, but also for things like making aces/kings/queens into kings/queens/jacks, for their respective synergies

not sure if any other reversed tarots would be useful though lol

[fresh prairie]

7 to 6

[empty brook]

........is hanged man just better death

choose 2 cards and get extra copies of them

[grand geode]

doesn't necessarily have to be the opposite effect

[fresh prairie]

Death let you duping

[empty brook]

like death mixed with cryptid

[grand geode]

see: tboi reversed tarots

[empty brook]

that's true!

[torpid oxide]

Idk, I will see later for the other cards

Maybe the hanged man? just creates two random cards

Or something like that

[fresh prairie]

Sounds bad

Like, idk, just make reverse hangman weaker version of Cryptic?

Make 1 card copy

[empty brook]

probably the best question to ask is like

when you get these

i'm assuming probably they can just show up in arcana packs?

so power-wise, if you're looking for balance, you'd wanna balance them around the others

but also you don't have to if you don't want to lmao, you can make them better if you want

[torpid oxide]

I was thinking maybe create a new pack for reversed tarot cards that would be as rare as the spectral pack

[empty brook]

ooh, fun

[torpid oxide]

Yeah

Maybe the hanged man? can have a 50% chance of creating 3 copies of one selected card

[haughty hinge]

wheel of misfortune

[empty brook]

Reversed Wheel of Fortune
3 in 4 chance of making a random Joker Negative. Otherwise, destroy that Joker.

[grand geode]

too high risk imho

wait no i misread that lmao

too good imho especially with Oops! All 6s!

[grand geode]

mm i don't like modified save runs being posted here, kinda drowns out actual modding conversations

[torpid oxide]

Oh yeah I like that

However, first of all I need to make the Reversed Strength working (its not)

[haughty hinge]

im so screwed

[sonic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-floyd-gif-25578569

[grand geode]

oops! all walls

[sonic pollen]

This is a huge reach of a question

but has anyone here had any luck developing mods that make Balatro network using WSS?

[grand geode]

that's one of the first things i tried to do but i couldn't get it to work

[sonic pollen]

that wasn't an answer to me, was it?

[grand geode]

kotomi_shrug

[torpid oxide]

Damn, I coded my reversed strength and it works now, however when I try to use a normal strength card I get this error wich is wierd because it tells me that there's an error in card.lua

[haughty hinge]

I think i can completely remove ante progression in the save file

from what i've seen the only way an ante progresses is from a completed boss blind

I literally cannot go to the final blind

i've done the 2nd boss blind 12 times

[clever rampart]

how'd you do that

also is there a way to find out which deck sprite is gonan be used when inputting the x y thing

[haughty hinge]

i used a save file editing website to change the blinds

https://balatro.shorty.systems/

you have to do it manually

[torpid oxide]

Alright I fixed it. Apparently I needed to define death and normal strength again for some reason

Is there any way to apply a status to a selected Joker ? We can apply a status to a selected card in hand or to a random Joker but I don't know if there's a function to apply something to a selected Joker

[sonic pollen]

Anyone know how nicely any of the existing mod libraries play with external libraries?

Would I just have to copy library files to the mod folder or is there an easier way to do that

(I am new to Love2D and lua in general so I may be asking Very Dumb questions in here for the next while)

[torpid oxide]

What I did is that I put the mod directly in my mod folder, works for now but I think the best way when you release it is that you tell people that your mod comes with dependencies so that they don't have to install the same mod 20 times for 20 different mods who uses it

[copper silo]

What happens if you mod a card that destroys itself to be eternal? Like ice cream

[torpid oxide]

But maybe I'm doing it the wrong way idk

[sonic pollen]

For context, this dependency isn't another mod. It's an external lua library.

[torpid oxide]

Ah, well sorry but I don't know

[sonic pollen]

It looks like the lua injectors would allow me to change requires

so if any of the modloaders allow for additional .lua files (and not just editing the existing ones)

then it shouldn't be hard. I just need to make sure I have the right licensing to distribute whatever library I want and I should be good to go

[mental solar]

Can someone send the sprite sheet for consumables?

[sonic pollen]

pull it yourself. You can open your .exe like a .zip file and it's just in there

[torpid oxide]

How do you put the description in green like the "1 in 4" here ?

[tribal rover]

Does anyone know the proper way to make sprite cards for the game?

[torpid oxide]

This might help : https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/Add-or-Replace-a-Sprite

[tribal rover]

I meant as in how to make the sprites in an art program

Do I just edit the sprites currently setup?

[torpid oxide]

Yeah I think this works

[tribal rover]

How do I know if I encroaching on another card?

[torpid oxide]

You need to cut a grid

[tribal rover]

How would I do that?

I think I have an idea

[torpid oxide]

Divide the height of your image by 4 and the width by 13 and you get one square of the grid

[sonic pollen]

Can someone look at their top-level Balatro install for me and tell me if there's any .dlls there?

I don't have the game installed on my work computer but I wanna test a theory

[polar schooner]

there's like 10

[sonic pollen]

cool, thanks!

[empty brook]

hiya folks! trying to figure out how to code a joker that's really weird: the Exact Opposite of Pareidolia. in specific, i want it to be "All cards count as all numbered cards." so, for instance, you can have Even Steven, Walkie Talkie, and Odd Todd all trigger on a 7 or a King

main issue i'm running into now: i looked at the code for Pareidolia, and that's like, in the function for if a card is a face card or not. meanwhile, for jokers like walkie talkie, they (logically) are just looking for the id of the card

so, pretty much, i'm trying to figure out if there's a way i can make it so a joker does something like, sets context.other_card:get_id() == 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 for every single card you play ((from what i can tell writing it like this does not work lol))

[mental solar]

I would but I don't have access to my computer right now 😅

[polar schooner]

it is hardcoded to remove eternal from those cards even if you try to force it

[sonic pollen]

It's against the rules to distribute Balatro source, so I think you are out of luck here

[sonic pollen]

I figured it'd have to be. No other way to have them in the shop with the eternal stakes on otherwise

[polar schooner]

there's a specific flag for eternal compatibility

which is probably because that and higher stakes

[smoky jasper]

you would have to overwrite the Card:is_face() function to check if your joker exists

    if self.debuff and not from_boss or find_joker("YOUR_JOKER") then return end
    local id = self:get_id()
    if id == 11 or id == 12 or id == 13 or next(find_joker("Pareidolia")) then
        return true
    end
end```

something like that basically

there might be a few things checking not using that but that would cover most cases afaik

[empty brook]

yeah, i assumed something with that function--but like, i'm less certain of how i'd approach it? from what i've tried, it doesn't seem that doing like, if id == 2 or id == 3 (etc.) then id == 2 and id == 3 (etc) works

since is_numbered isn't a thing, to my knowledge lol

[sonic pollen]

Personally I think you'd just have to go back and edit all of the number-seeking jokers with or next(find_joker("Numberjoker"))

which is ugly, but

[smoky jasper]

you can use that function as is_numbered it just returns the inverse

[empty brook]

that IS a method i've considered, but i dislike the fact that would make it incompatible with other modded jokers

[smoky jasper]

yeah

[empty brook]

which is like. i can accept that if it's impossible to make it work with other mods? but if there's a method that WOULD also let other modded jokers work with it, i'd prefer that

[sonic pollen]

I think your alternative is making it so that way cards can hold multiple ids

of which only the first will count for the purposes of -kinds and straights

[empty brook]

oh, i don't care aboutchanging -kinds and straights

same as how Pareidolia doesn't change the value of cards; just that they count as face cards, for stuff like other jokers and boss blind abilities

[sonic pollen]

yeah I know

[empty brook]

i want to play Walkie Talkie with a 6 and have it work, for instance

[sonic pollen]

that's why you'd have to do this

[empty brook]

ahhhhh, i see

okay yeah, i understand what you're saying then lol

[sonic pollen]

(I'm assuming at least that straights and kinds reference card ID, right? I don't know that snippet of code)

[smoky jasper]

straights look for id yea

so blackbando you want every card to trigger every effect basically

[sonic pollen]

every numbered effect

[empty brook]

every numbered effect, yeah

[smoky jasper]

hm

[empty brook]

Hack, Walkie Talkie, Even Steven, Odd Todd, etc.

[sonic pollen]

The reason this is more complicated is that this isn't the opposite of pareidolia

Pareidolia doesn't trigger things that specifically care about kings or queens

[smoky jasper]

yeah had me slightly confused for a moment

[sonic pollen]

just Face

[empty brook]

mhm, yeah

"numbered" or "non-face" just isn't like, a thing the game cares about lol

[smoky jasper]

i mean it does check for it for boss blinds

and gold-turning joker

[empty brook]

i mean. that's checking for face

[sonic pollen]

that's not it checking for numbers

[empty brook]

yeah

[sonic pollen]

that's checking for face and failing

[smoky jasper]

which is the same thing

[empty brook]

i suppose!

[sonic pollen]

I mean, you could just have a joker that says "none of your cards count as face cards"

which would be interesting

god knows we need a second joker to make Ride the Bus viable

[empty brook]

pretty niche though--i think that'd only matter for The Plant boss blind and Ride the Bus lol

[smoky jasper]

this would do that

niche cards/jokers are the most fun tbh

[empty brook]

oh yeah, absolutely

but personally i prefer niche jokers which make really weird niche strategies, instead of like

this is nichely countering two very specific downsides lol

[sonic pollen]

I think it'd be best on a joker alongside some other sort of minor buff

[empty brook]

yeah, i could see it as part of a joker which does some other thing

[sonic pollen]

Like "numbered cards grant double base chips" or w/e

[empty brook]

i'm not opposed to also trying that

but i am a lot more interested in the initial idea still--i think it sounds very fun to have an entire deck work with some more niche stuff

[hallow turtle]

Hey everyone, I'm really interested in making mods for this game. I've looked through the guides on this server but I'm still a little confused on what the full process is like for making mods. Like, is everything done by replacing code in the base game using the injection method, or do you make seprate files? How would I go about adding something like a new deck type? How do you go back to vanilla or switch mods i might be working on?

I'm on a M1 mac, so I've looked through the read me guide on github for balomod since thats the one thats compatible with mac.

I have pretty decent experience in multiple programming languages...except lua, but that isnt really what im having trouble getting. It's more about the process itself im unsure of. I also do not have much experience working with github or terminal commands either.

Can anyone recommend a guide or give some explanation of what the full process of making a mod is like? Thanks

[empty brook]

8-ball and sixth sense are two big ones where i was like "oh hell yeah, these are kinda hard to get off normally but they could POP OFF with this joker"

[sonic pollen]

You can use one of the modloaders

it'll manage the install/uninstall of mods as you like

[empty brook]

the modloader's github repo also has various example mods

[hallow turtle]

is that what balomod is

[empty brook]

Steamodded and Balomod are both different modloader options

[sonic pollen]

Balomod and Steamodded are the two major modloaders

You'll pick one of the two depending on which mods you wanna try out

[empty brook]

i think rn steamodded is the one with more mods and such, since it came first

but really use whichever seems more appealing to you

[smoky jasper]

steamodded is the only mac compatible

or the only one that says so

[tacit mountain]

It's is not right now

It was working with the old version of Mac, but not with the new one

[smoky jasper]

rough

[tacit mountain]

Balamod works well with Mac outside of the Mod Marketplace

[sonic pollen]

Do either of the major modloaders manage dlls? Or if I'm gonna reference a dll, will I have to manually drop it in the install folder

[tacit mountain]

To a look at lovely for this

Neither Balamod or Steamodded support dll on their own

[sonic pollen]

fwiw the mod I'm working of developing would be one that would be expected to be played without the presence of any other mods by virtue of what it is

I don't need to have the mod externally managed, I'd mostly just be using the modloaders for dev use. Install instructions can be w/e

[tacit mountain]

I don't exactly understand what you want to do, but Steamodded and Balamod will not load it sadly :/

[sonic pollen]

For clarity, this mod would be an integration of the Archipelago randomizer into Balatro

I'd be referencing a WSS client dll

so it can connect to the server

[tacit mountain]

Oh ok I see

I think Balatro will load it if you put it in your Gamedir ? If yes, Steamodded and (I think but I'm not sure) Balamod will be able to use it without any issue

[sonic pollen]

I haven't looked at Balatro's code for imports myself

but I presume it'd have to call its imports by name in the lua code

in which case my mod will need to also inject that call

[tacit mountain]

Hmmm, take a look at the lovely repo, it's kinda doing what you want to achieve I think

At least to load the .dll

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1214591552903716954

[empty brook]

okay, so, i AM going with this method

but i have now realized there's a snag: Mail-in-Rebate and The Idol can sometimes ask for numbered cards, but not always. i would want this joker to make it so the numbered options always work (well in idol's case work as long as the suit still matches lol) when they ask for numbers, but not when they ask for ace and face cards

[umbral pilot]

I can write a patch to enable dll injection, but you would likely need to setup the lua registration yourself.

[umbral pilot]

the patch files can handle this if you don't want to go through one of the modloaders.

[torpid oxide]

Anyone knows how to put the text of the description of something in green ?

[sonic pollen]

The library I'm referencing already has all the registrations I can just copy-paste

(I think)

(Very New to Lua)

[empty brook]

{C:green} and then {} at the end

[torpid oxide]

Alright thanks

[empty brook]

so as an example, imagining bold as green here

Removes all Boss Blinds from the game instantly

would be

Removes all {C:green}Boss Blinds{} from the game instantly

[torpid oxide]

And is it something like {C:Negative} for the negative description of the effect ?

[empty brook]

{C:dark_edition}

[torpid oxide]

Ah right

Thanks

[empty brook]

we love the colors: green, red, blue, attention, and dark_edition!

[torpid oxide]

Isn't there a {C:polychrome} for polychrome edition ?

[empty brook]

uhhhh probably

i wasn't listing all the colors there i was just making a funny

i can check what polychrome uses

[torpid oxide]

Guess I should try out

[empty brook]

looking at the localization it looks like it also uses dark_edition

i'm not sure if there's ever rainbow text in this game...

[torpid oxide]

Huh ?

[grave folio]

Hello, I honestly love this game, but I was wondering how to make a texture pack like many people seem to do.
I wanted to make myself a personal texture pack (I mean that I might not publicly share it)

[round ore]

my favorite color is attention

[empty brook]

attention is such a cool color

[round ore]

dark edition is my 2nd favorite color

[empty brook]

so for my own coding woes: i attempted to try the numbered thing with walkie talkie as a basis, and it Did Not Work

i haven't ever made a mod which like. tries to edit a pre-existing joker before???? so i wouldn't be shocked if that's why it's not working

[torpid oxide]

Bro is using Notepad++

[empty brook]

yeah

[round ore]

I mean half of the work of coding is bug fixing

[empty brook]

i like notepad++

also i'm a girl so bro isn't really accurate lmao

[round ore]

bro is a gender neutral term

[empty brook]

ehhhhh

[sonic pollen]

its not if she corrects you on it

[torpid oxide]

Damn

She just reverse uno carded me in 2s

[round ore]

it really depends on if you are okay with being called bro

[empty brook]

i would not point it out if i was okay with being called bro lol

[sonic pollen]

Open up your game in a .zip folder, rip the resource images out, edit them as you like, then put them in a modpack in one of the (two?) modloaders

[round ore]

I will respect that

[torpid oxide]

Alright sorry then

[empty brook]

anyways! my code was Not Good, and i don't know which parts were Not Good
it didn't crash or anything, it just didn't work

[empty brook]

that's completely fine! everyone makes mistakes, and i like to think i'm pretty forgiving and laid-back lol

[sonic pollen]

I do not know what's going on with the indenting here

[empty brook]

me copy-and-pasting walkie talkie's code from the game without changing the indentation lol

if that's affecting it working or not then i can fix that, but to my knowledge it shouldn't in this case, right

[hallow turtle]

What do I do with the balamod file after I download it? It wont open with anything

[sonic pollen]

I don't believe lua is indent-sensitive

But I'm new to Lua so I cannot answer this

[grave folio]

Can't I just put them back in the game's executable ?

[sonic pollen]

If you have LOVE dev tools installed and can recompile the game, yes

[torpid oxide]

What do you guys think

[sonic pollen]

Oh that's fun

"you said you wanted another Joker slot. You didn't ask me how you wanted me to get it for you"

[torpid oxide]

Uhhh

[hushed furnace]

that's cool

[cosmic shell]

It's a command line program at the moment, right click in the folder it's in to open a command prompt and then input the name of the file followed by a space and then -a to install it. There's also a batch script in balamod's repository called "One click install.bat" you can use to do this for you by putting it in the same folder as the file and then opening it. (Also you could use lovely to install balamod instead if neither work for you)

[grave folio]

I don't, I didn't even know about Love2D before today lol. So how do I put my custom textures in a modpack ? (brb in about 30 minutes / 1 hour so won't reply soon)

[round ore]

LOL

[round ore]

cool idea

[sonic pollen]

Pick either Balamod or Steamodded, go to their forum page, learn how they format their mods, and then make your mod

[lean dune]

with Oops all 6s: guaranteed negative, 1/2 chance to destroy it?

[torpid oxide]

Right

This joker exists

Damn

[sonic pollen]

I don't imagine it'll be all that long before someone's created a texture pack template for one of the two mod loaders that you can just dump assets into and then run

Assuming that doesn't exist already

[lean dune]

Also what that says implies there's a chance for neither or both to apply either way

[torpid oxide]

It's more like pick a random number between 1 and 4, if number = 4 then destroy joker, else add negative to it

[sonic pollen]

"3 of 4 chance to add Negative to a selected Joker. If it doesn't become Negative, destroy it."

Try that

Now Oops All Sixes guarantees Negative, which is cool

[torpid oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-aegis-gold-aegis-day-of-dusk-chairman-gif-25837857

[lean dune]

nah oops all 6s should nerf it

[sonic pollen]

Oops All Sixes should buff more things that card is bad

[lean dune]

1 in 4 chance to destroy a selected joker. Otherwise, add negative to it

[torpid oxide]

Fixed

Now, I just need to figure out how I can select Jokers

[empty brook]

oh hell yeah, you implemented the thing i suggested!

[torpid oxide]

Yeah

[empty brook]

i can confirm you do not need to do this

you can open the game's executable as a zip, go into resources, and replace images by just dragging them in there

source: i did this before i found out about the modloader lmao

i was able to replace textures and they worked just fine

in fact this actually works for like. the entirety of the game? you don't need LOVE dev tools installed to change anything--you can just:

1. drag out the code (or texture or w/e), copying it onto somewhere else outside of the zip file
2. edit it however you want
3. drag it back into the zip, replacing the old version

works for code, works for text, works for textures

[hallow turtle]

I tried this, and it said permission denied. I looked at lovely, but it doesn’t seem to have a mac version

[empty brook]

now, mind you, this isn't really a mod, so it's much better to just.... use the modloader and make it a mod lmao

but it's possible if you wanna do something personal and really don't care, i suppose? would be a pain to do it again each update though

[cosmic shell]

oh you're on mac, run chmod +x on the file in the command line and then try again (this makes it executable)

[sonic pollen]

What archive manager are you using that allows you to hotswap files without decompiling

I don't think 7z or the default windows manager allow you to do that

[empty brook]

7-zip

[hallow turtle]

Ah ok, it looks like everything worked...now what do I do😅

like in general if i were to start making a mod

[empty brook]

and like, hotswapping files is not something i've been able to do with like... maybe any other game?
Balatro's engine just seems to be fine with it lol

i still don't think it's a very good option--it's much better to just use the modloader and make things into mods

but sometimes i find it's useful as a way to like, work backwards and figure out how something is coded

that way i can apply it to my future mod-making endeavors

[torpid oxide]

Is there an equivalent of #G.hand.highlighted but for highlighted Jokers ?

Like, where is the code to sell the highlighted joker ?

Like #G.highlighted.jokers.cards ?

[cosmic shell]

selling jokers is tied directly to each joker's sell button, so it doesn't check the selected joker. I'm not sure if there's anything gameplay wise that checks the selected jokers.

[hallow turtle]

also, the game does this when I launch it now

[torpid oxide]

Well, when you click on a joker it makes a sound, isn't there a way where I could setup a joker.highlighted variable there ?

[cosmic shell]

maybe, there's probably something in functions/button_callbacks.lua you could inject into

[torpid oxide]

Alright I'll check that

Thanks

[cosmic shell]

that's a known issue, I think there's a fix that was discussed in https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1213838204491399218 the other day.

[torpid oxide]

Anyone knows what function is called when you click on a Joker ? I can't find it

[exotic dagger]

i like it

[torpid oxide]

Yeah but for it to work...

I mean, I could do it to a random joker

I guess that works too

[mental solar]

The rule is that we have to keep all code and discussion of it in modding (all I did was check pinned messages), I don't need the image anymore.

[sonic pollen]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1212395714920054864 Rule #7

I would be hard pressed to say that the rules posted in the forum do not apply to this chatroom

[mental solar]

Oh, thank you for showing me :)

I didn't know they were updated

[torpid oxide]

Huh ?

No cards anymore

[wet river]

It's probably related to clicking on any "sell-able" card. When you click on it, it likely gives information regarding the card that you could use to determine if it's a joker or not.

[wet river]

Probably this?

function G.UIDEF.use_and_sell_buttons(card)

If you need all situations, you likely need to do buy scenarios as well. That's gonna be in the UI_definitions.lua file also.

[torpid oxide]

Alright I'll check this

[subtle mantle]

Hey all! Is there a current mod, or one being worked on, that would allow me to manipulate the jokers available in a run? (Pick and choose basically which are unlocked)

[sonic pollen]

If someone hasn't built that yet, I will need to build it for my project. If someone HAS built it, please let me know so I can scrap it for parts ;)

[subtle mantle]

Awesome Rooby, could you keep me up-to-date. I was thinking about building it for some content Ideas I have, but I'm far from any kind of expert in modding

[sonic pollen]

Neither am I!

[wet river]

I'm actually looking through the code right now to see if there is a pre-determined list of jokers that are available to a seed, as I just witnessed someone roll somewhere north of 300 times in one run without getting a specific rare one.

[white scarab]

There are only a few cases like that

[white scarab]

Some jokers have preconditions for you to see them in shops, but save for challenges there is no list of "banned" jokers just for that seed, although the joker order is dependent on the seed

[slender ocean]

Would making something count as a wild rank be possible?

[spice spear]

Hypothetically yes it would be, and that's a plan that me and @rare hill have for down the road for ShamPack once we figure out a proper way to implement it

[slender ocean]

Awesome

I was trying to think of a better effect for the stone joker cuz just being chips per stone card is really sad, so I thought making Stones count as Any Rank instead would be an interesting effect

[wet river]

It was definitely unlocked, that's not the issue.

[rigid jewel]

It depends on implementation but something like that can work

[wet river]

Is there a reason why Baron wouldn't have shown up besides that?

[spice spear]

also it took me a moment to figure out why I recognized your name-- I played through Enigma mod with a couple of my buddies a few years back, so it's great to see that you're actively modding stuff

[slender ocean]

Eyo! That’s super cool!

[white scarab]

Only if you have a copy of Baron already and don’t have Showman

[wet river]

Neither of those conditions were in place.

[slender ocean]

Enigma is kind of on the backburner, especially since even more terraria updates are coming, and I have lots of other projects I’m passionate about, but it might come back at some point! I have very cool ideas for it

[white scarab]

But also it’s rare, so 300 rerolls without Baron is probably just bad luck

[rigid jewel]

I already make a joker that (sorta) makes face cards a wild rank.

[slender ocean]

Interesting 🤔

[spice spear]

Re-Logic simply cannot stop making final updates

[slender ocean]

Very true

[wet river]

The wording is a bit weird on that description, if I was to comment. I'd try to match the wording with that of "Smeared"

[spice spear]

but yeah, initially we had the idea of an enhancement that would merge cards together and have them keep both ranks, but that evolved into sewing two jokers together and enabling some truly insane stuff

[slender ocean]

yeah that sounds bonkers

[rare hill]

yup that'd be totally doable, you just have to inject code into stuff that checks rank

[slender ocean]

I was thinking more of like "If you play it with a pair, it becomes 3 of a kind, two pair becomes full house, a straight with one number missing becomes valid, etc"

and also it triggers all jokers that look for specific ranks ofc

[spice spear]

so that is uh, one of the ideas we had

almost verbatim

[rare hill]

I mean, that'd be a side effect of what I described

[subtle mantle]

You probably know better than most. How hard would it be to create something to manipulate the availble jokers for a run? I have this content idea I'm burning to do, but we need to be able to basically limit the pool of jokers uniquely for each person

[slender ocean]

nice!

the hardest part would be the straights I think

I would probably have to look at how Shortcut does it

[spice spear]

and we came to the conclusion that "sure it'd be fine for the base game, but what about Modded Ranks"

[slender ocean]

what is a modded rank

[spice spear]

because once you start having to make it work with other people's mods

[slender ocean]

what are people cookin

[spice spear]

that's when it starts to get really muddy

[slender ocean]

yeah I can imagine that

[spice spear]

one moment I know where to send you

[white scarab]

With a mod probably not too hard

You could do it with custom challenges

[spice spear]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1210976027036352582 this for sure has modded ranks

[subtle mantle]

Makes sense, I'll dive more into it

[spice spear]

& then for ShamPack, we're doing goofy stuff like "Mild Cards" and putting an equivalent of Perish Song onto cards/jokers

[slender ocean]

is there a fully fleshed modloader yet?

[spice spear]

two, actually

Balamod and Steamodded

[slender ocean]

uh oh

[spice spear]

Balamod is the one that more people seem to be gravitating to as of late because it's more feature rich

[cosmic shell]

i'd say 2 and a half, lovely is kind of like half a modloader

[hushed furnace]

yeah, I used challenges to test when I was tweaking jokers

[spice spear]

I think there's plans to merge them at some point

[slender ocean]

already going down the route of multiple competing modloaders?

[spice spear]

nah

they're actively attempting to unify

[rigid jewel]

Yeah that's kinda why I said Imposter Syndrome sorta makes face cards a wild rank.
A mod like this would either check with all the jokers that check for specific ranks on cards and carve an exception for if those cards are wild values cards (incompatible with other mods but easier) OR you'd rework some other part of the code that all jokers rely on to check for a card's value (makes modded jokers work with this, but signifigantly harder to code).

[slender ocean]

ah nice

[hushed furnace]

and, more importantly, it uses injection rather than overwriting entire functions, which is enormously better for compatibility

[spice spear]

mmmhmmm

it's non-destructive which is going to be WAY better for the people actually writing the mods

[slender ocean]

I have experience patching stuff in slay the spire so injections should be easy to handle

[spice spear]

I'm just an artist who has very surface level knowledge of programming

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1215516228525760543 Community Joker Pack is open for contribution and would be a great way to get your feet wet

[slender ocean]

my only worry is I have zero Lua experience so this is gonna be tough to get into 😅

I think I will wait until the mod loaders merge before getting into stuff though

[hushed furnace]

if you have programming experience it won't be too bad

[cosmic shell]

lua is a ridiculously simple language.

[hushed furnace]

well, depending on how ambitious the stuff you want to try is

[wet river]

Lua is actually easy. I literally picked it up for this game. But I've also been programming for work for 6 years now.

[hushed furnace]

as with anything trying to do something crazy is gonna take some work :p

[slender ocean]

I have only done object oriented programming before

[wet river]

You done python? You can do Lua

[slender ocean]

I have parely done any but yes

[wet river]

Javascript?

[slender ocean]

nope

C# and Java

[hushed furnace]

honestly you should still be pretty okay for simpler stuff

with just fundamentals from those

[slender ocean]

nice

[wet river]

Yea, it's in reality simpler

[spice spear]

I've only done programming in MATLAB and I can look at a lot of what has been made, and be able to loosely understand what is happening and why

[wet river]

Matlab is awful.

[spice spear]

I have no context for how bad it is in comparison to other stuff :^)

[wet river]

If you ever have the need/desire, try python. It's incredibly easy.

I've done x86 Assembly, and I still was more annoyed with Matlab.

[spice spear]

I've heard whispers that MATLAB is like, similar to python, but I have no clue how true that is

[slender ocean]

[rigid jewel]

It looked similar to Python the last time I saw matlab code

[slender ocean]

do you guys often talk about game design stuff in here for things to make mods about?

[spice spear]

there is also whispers of official steam workshop support, I don't know how true this is, but I think if you're interested in making mods for Balatro, it would probably be good to just make something and be ready to port it later; ShamPack was initially on Steamodded and it didn't take too long for it to get ported to Balamod

[wet river]

I'll believe it when I see it. People also saying r2modman support.

[spice spear]

people come up with ideas in #1155557846805643434, in here, or in #🎨・fan-art, and then the aforementioned Community Jokers Pack is also a place where ideas are being shared, with external efforts being made to direct people towards it

[spice spear]

well I mean, one of the devs of that is here and has been active iirc, so I think that one is more realistic

[slender ocean]

I feel like straights really need some support in the deckbuilding front

[hushed furnace]

yeahh

[slender ocean]

the only real way to make your deck better at making straights rn is Jokers

[hushed furnace]

tarot cards kind of

[slender ocean]

Stone cards could be a way to do that but idk how to phrase it

+50 Chips. When played, counts as any rank besides those of other scoring cards

[wet river]

Stone cards are dirt rn too

[hushed furnace]

i thought about making rocks into an actual viable build but I'm going to wait until I can devote more attention to a project

[wet river]

Late game is dominated by red seal + hand retriggers.

[slender ocean]

yeah, and most good late game builds involve playing hands that need all 5 cards

[hushed furnace]

i was going to add hand types with rocks but it would require rewriting some UI functions

and im not a front end person

[wet river]

Opposite really, High card builds are top. You want larger hand size to have more hand triggers.

[slender ocean]

oh yeah, besides the insane runs to get to the int limit

I meant for viably winning the game and getting a few ante's into endless

high card can get there sometimes but most of the time the way involves 5 card hands

[loud crystal]

high card is the best for that too tbh

at least at high stakes

[hushed furnace]

ante 12+ roughly you can't do anything but hand triggers except maybe a crazy triboulet build

[slender ocean]

it depends on the jokers you see early

if you don't find any ways to buff high card early then it's very hard to do

I don't think it's a build you can force yourself into, but maybe I'm wrong

[hushed furnace]

most you can do is spam roll for mine and baron

and work toward kingifying your deck throughout your run

[slender ocean]

you don't really get enough money early enough to be able to do that consistently without losing the run tho

[loud crystal]

yeah forcing builds in general is not the best

but there are a surprising number of jokers that support high card well

[spice spear]

maybe we could fix this in shampack at some point, with our own strange ways of making stuff

[hushed furnace]

early shoot the moon is my favorite way to approach it

[loud crystal]

(talking about ante 8/stakes btw not endless)

[rare hill]

Gonna note for lua, it's pretty much "another language", but with a few oddities:

• Everything's either a basic value or a table. No arrays or dicts here, they're the same thing, a table.
• Arrays start at 1. I don't like it either.
• comments are --stuff and --[[stuff]], optionally --[=[stuff]=]

oh, and a bunch of stuff is replaced by words - && is and, if(){} is if() then end, etc

[slender ocean]

is shampack a community pack or something you're working on yourself?

[spice spear]

a little bit of both, if suggestions are REALLY good we'll consider adding them but I generally want to keep the mod balanced within itself

I'm currently making edits to my ideas list so I can post it and get feedback from folks

[slender ocean]

is there a design doc for it?

ahh ok

I love design docs

[spice spear]

#1212105650151100458 message

[sonic pollen]

Anyone know what code I can point to that gives ❌ to cards when they are debuffed

[thick pier]

Does anyone know if it's possible to convert a Balatro save from a modded Nintendo Switch to a PC save and vice versa? I've seen online for some other games it is possible if the devs use a similar format for storing save file data itself (just the wrapper/container the save data is inside is different from platform to platform.

[hushed furnace]

check the blinds.lua file

not at a computer rn so I can't be more specific

[lilac badge]

does anyone know what mod includes math_homework.png? im apparently missing it

[spice spear]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1214374098914770944 @lilac badge

[strong falcon]

Why do custom challenges show up as locked for me?

[lilac badge]

ah i see, i missed the assets folder, thanks

[strong falcon]

Nvm, figured it out 👍

[wet river]

Hmm, so I'm trying to do something silly but I'm missing something. I am trying to make there be zero jokers available to play with. I have cleared the G.P_CENTER_POOLS['Joker'] table, and see that it is still empty when the first shop loads, but there are still jokers, and they still score correctly.

[spice spear]

what jokers? If it's just the default Joker, then that's just the game using the default fallback for the joker pool

[wet river]

No, it's many jokers.

[exotic shadow]

I'm not sure how to do this, but maybe take a look at what the jokerless challenge does

[wet river]

That just sets a flag. It doesn't actually remove them. There are specific "IF" checks for that I think.

[exotic shadow]

I think theres a probabilty rate you can tweak to not get them to show up in shops

GAME.joker_rate

what happens if that's 0

[wet river]

It is a probability tweak, my bad, but that's not really what I'm going for. I'm working to remove them, to add only one back or something.

[exotic shadow]

oh

not sure

[wet river]

G.P_CENTER_POOLS['Joker'] seems to be what Steamo is using in his joker API. I'm wondering if it's conflicting with that.

[tribal cloud]

are there any skin mods for the cards?

[wet river]

Oh I did it.

Sick

You also need to dump the data in the rarity pool.

[tribal rover]

does anyone know if the steamodded_injector.exe is safe to use?

because it's wigging out my anti virus

[spice spear]

it's safe, it only gets flagged due to how it works

[cosmic shell]

it probably get's flagged because it's an executable made from a python program. a lot of malware is also distributed in that form so most antiviruses auto flag it just in case.

[rare shell]

question, anyone have any sample implementation code for how to properly do legendary joker graphics? (i.e. the background, then the transparent joker)

[wanton rapids]

how strong is this?

[rare shell]

its a bit much

also not a fan tbh

would be neat if it instead it started as a small bonus that grows per skip though

tracks it like throwback does so it scales later

also yeehaw, i just need to figure out how to do legendary joker graphic implementation

[rigid jewel]

It could be like Satellite, where you get money per round but get more per skip.

[rare shell]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[rigid jewel]

Or more per type of skip tag you've gotten in the run

[rare shell]

that also could be neat

[wanton rapids]

good idea, will implement

[rare shell]

i like the idea of unique tags but that might be annoying to implement

but if you did that'd be neat with stuff like the tag jokers

[rigid jewel]

Lemme see how Satellite works.

[wanton rapids]

hm

yeah i don't think there'd be one for tags

[rare shell]

well if you didnt want to track tags you can just look at how throwback keeps tracks of skips

[wanton rapids]

yeah i'm doing that

[rigid jewel]

Should be super easy in that case

The game has an internal variable for how many times you've skipped a blind

[wet river]

It's annoying that lua doesn't have a built in json handler.

[rigid jewel]

Just need to append the Card:calculate_dollar_bonus() function to give a set amount of money equal to base + (however much it increments)*G.GAME.skips

[wet river]

If I wanted to use json readers in a mod, I'd need to have the mod come with a install of some sort...

[exotic shadow]

yeah its annoying

You could probably just reuse the save file stuff

but its not exactly safe

[wanton rapids]

hm

[rare shell]

is there any other code that showcases something being forced to discard besides the hook?

im trying to randomly discard 2 cards when played, like the blind, or even being able to discard the last two cards in the players hand when a hand is played

if anyone could help it'd be appreciated

i have the context correct im pretty sure, in g.Hand it's just getting the forced discard code to work is the problem

[hardy brook]

Is there a possibility for me to have a .exe for balamod and a .exe for Steamodded?

Oh geez, that's a lot of steps

I'll come back to that later

[hexed drift]

Has anyone else had the issue 'balamod-v0.1.10-windows.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file. when running the command in terminal?

[strong swift]

just use the one click install

that worked for me

[hexed drift]

Is that just the .exe file? I've been a little confused on the github page and I feel stupid lol

[strong swift]

nah, i'm talking about the .cmd

[mild raft]

it worked when i ran the "balamod-v0.1.10-windows.exe -a" string in .cmd with the .exe downloaded

[hexed drift]

Strange. I have the .exe downloaded and ran it with no luck

[mild raft]

did you open up the .cmd in the downloads folder?

[hexed drift]

Not sure what you mean. Sorry, Im not familiar with doing my mods this way. The .exe is in my downloads, and I opened up .cmd through the search bar and ran that code.

[mild raft]

yeah i did the same thing, dont know why its not working (I also have 0 clue how command prompt works)

[hexed drift]

I wonder if its a compatibility issue with the new update. But that wouldn't make sense why it wouldn't even run.

[wanton rapids]

making this $3 per skip because it was strictly worse than rocket lmao

[hardy brook]

Hey, I'd like an opinion on something

When I have multiple cards with the same art in the Balatro Archived mod, would you like to have the version in the corner of the art like so, or would you like all of a version to have the same colored border

(Mind you, they'll have the version in the name: [Eight Ball (0.9.3)])

[grand geode]

different border

the version is jarring

[hardy brook]

I thought so too. I wanted to have a small seal in the corner but It'd be too hard to read

[strong swift]

have you gotten silver deck done yet?

[hardy brook]

unfortunately no

[strong swift]

yeah it seems really difficult to make a random joker

because nothing does that base game

[hardy brook]

yeah something does

the actual silver deck

[strong swift]

wait do you have access to the 0.8.8 code?

[hardy brook]

That... no

I'm thinking of what to do

[wanton rapids]

doesn't judgement do it?

[spice spear]

I think they mean a joker with a completely random effect

unfortunate discovery tonight lads: emojis do NOT render in Balatro's text engine.

[hardy brook]

then make it

[spice spear]

anyway it seems like actually implementing emojis would be WAY MORE WORK than it is worth

and it would all be for the sake of a really stupid and incomprehensible joker

debating on whether or not I want to put a bounty out for this. On one hand, it would be REALLY fucking funny, on the other hand, I don't know that it would be worth spending money on this joke in particular

[rapid epoch]

I had an idea for a custom challenge and it was suggested I post it here, to see if it's worth trying

Here's Looking at You, Kid
Start with 4 Eternal, Pinned Blueprints
Negative jokers can't appear
Banned cards: (list of blueprint-incompatible jokers), Brainstorm, Blank Voucher, Antimatter Voucher
Banned tags: Negative tag

Credit to @woven sonnet for improving it from an idea to an actual format and suggesting I post it here

[wanton rapids]

hm

[rapid epoch]

this joker forgot to install Counter-Strike: Source

[wanton rapids]

that's what i have it set to if it doesn't have art yet

[rapid epoch]

oh that's custom? kino

i like it a lot

does its job well of saying 'HEY DUMMY: THIS IS UNTEXTURED'

[rapid epoch]

I might be stupid, but
If a mod says it needs Steamodded, does Balamod work

And do any mods say they need Balamod and if so, vice versa

[wanton rapids]

they're two different modloaders

like fabric and forge

mods that work with one are incompatible with the other

[rapid epoch]

i cry blood
why... in the infancy of this must the forge/fabric divide happen

thank you though

[wanton rapids]

because that's the way the balatr os

[rapid epoch]

is one or the other dominant?

I've only seen Steamodded so far

[wanton rapids]

i'd say more mods use steamodded rn but that could definitely change

[rapid epoch]

i'm looking at Awesome Balatro and like

the balamod mods are literally

• sprite API
• French translation
• slutty joker
• straight hand renamed to 'gay'

okey dokey installing steamodded

[grand geode]

it's funny like that

[rapid epoch]

i expected sixsuits to be a lot more jarring but honestly it's a LOT of fun

reverse moon and star are clever additions

[wanton rapids]

slight buff and art for blood pact

might make a website template for joker mods

that shows them

[rare shell]

id use it

[sacred mulch]

what are people's favorite gameplay altering mods (decks, jokers, etc) to play with right now...? having a hard time choosing which ones to install so i'm curious what people like to play with

[rare shell]

mine 🙂

[sacred mulch]

those are extremely cool looking :0

[grand geode]

this is just a free win if it gets eternal lol

[coarse geyser]

help im stupid

[sacred mulch]

anything that goes well with them

other mod wise

[rapid epoch]

SixSuits imo

it adds some interesting strategies

[empty brook]

i would imagine that this joker, much like all others that destroy themselves, would be coded to NEVER become eternal lol

[rapid epoch]

I tried an all stone deck

Misery.

[grand geode]

oh are foods not eternal compat dam

[empty brook]

yeah, they're not

any joker which destroys itself cannot be eternal

i believe you can't even try to force eternal on through challenges or anything--they just instantly remove it

but i could be wrong there

[wanton rapids]

yeah it is

[rare shell]

ah shucks i should implement that for box of stuff

time to steal from myst

wait i forgor you register jokers differently

is it just as simple as sticking "eternal_compat = false" in there

[grand geode]

eternal_compat is base tho

so yea

[wanton rapids]

recreated the bg for it by copying the shader from the code

[peak oak]

Yo

Where can I get that mod?

[wanton rapids]

it's not out yet

[peak oak]

Oh fck hahaha

Just make sure it adapts joker effects cards like negatives

[wanton rapids]

?

[peak oak]

I mean like when they show in the shop theres a chance that they have effects

Like negatives poly foil

[wanton rapids]

that's there by default

[peak oak]

Oooh

Nice effects tho x5 for heart user

[peak oak]

Sadly the design is currently bad

Specially the reverse moon

It would be better if they put it inside a circle

With diferrent color

[peak oak]

Yo

Is it possible to make a joker card that do this effects -

1 joker card = if you have 0 discard you can still discard with a cost of 5 gold

Like that?

It would be also cool if theres a joker card x5 like bloodpact for spades clubs and diamonds

Then we just ask ai for a good name for spades, clubs and diamonds

Heart Card: Blood Pact

Clubs Card: Thorned Tribute
Diamond Card: Gemstone Offering
Spade Card: Dark Covenant

[rapid epoch]

cool criticism! have you given it to the mod creator

[peak oak]

Nope hahaha just got started using it but just hope to get it more better i found some really good gfx designer here

[wanton rapids]

yo

[rapid epoch]

groovy

[peak oak]

Yo bro read

[wanton rapids]

nah

[peak oak]

My suggestiin

[wanton rapids]

i don't think i will

[peak oak]

Hahahaha

[exotic dagger]

what does x y and z do

[wanton rapids]

that is a good question

[peak oak]

Cmon check out my suggestion hahahaha

[wanton rapids]

i don't want to add them

[peak oak]

Well someone might hahaha but still its really cool to have that

But the first question i have

Is it possible?

Is it possible to make a joker card that do this effects -

1 joker card = if you have 0 discard you can still discard with a cost of 5 gold

[rare shell]

maybe dont ping and pester people for mod requests

[wanton rapids]

alright!

the code

(plus parsing stuff)

oh right i should add the name to it

[rare shell]

oh this is for the website?

[wanton rapids]

yeah

[rare shell]

hell yeah

[wanton rapids]

well the website is pretty much done

(the template at least)

[empty brook]

very stylish!

[wanton rapids]

oh i should make it display rarity

[empty brook]

i'm glad you chose to use among us for this

[rare shell]

📮

[wanton rapids]

the effect

[empty brook]

yeah it's like. wretched, but in a positive way

it's wretched in that i look at it and just see red, but also i think it's a really interesting effect that fits what it's going for

[rare shell]

reworked fortuno by the way

a little more tuned for legendaries imo

[wanton rapids]

so trading card but bonkers

seems fun

[rare shell]

didnt have the first hand limited before but a friend suggested it

[empty brook]

oh hell yeah, another legendary!

did you get the like, floating visual effect to work properly?

[rare shell]

i wish i knew the proper way of implementing the effect

but no

[empty brook]

i've been wanting to make my own legendary but have struggled to do that myself

alas!

[rare shell]

oh friend i must ask

do you know of a good example of discarding cards from hand

[empty brook]

uhh, like in what context

Faceless Joker comes to mind, but it depends on what exactly you're looking for

[rare shell]

i thought faceless joker procs on discard?

im more refering to the action of discarding cards, like the hook blind

[empty brook]

ohhhh

well, i know that Ramen tracks that

like if Hook discards 2 cards, ramen loses 0.01x mult twice

[rare shell]

aye, i just want to figure out the code that discards the card in the first place

[empty brook]

gotcha!

[rare shell]

if i could replicate the hook effect on a joker thatd be swell

[empty brook]

okay, yeah, now i understand lol

that's a tricky one. gimme a sec and i'll see if i have a decent answer for you

[wanton rapids]

grepped for "hook" and got this

if self.name == "The Hook" then
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({ func = function()
            local any_selected = nil
            local _cards = {}
            for k, v in ipairs(G.hand.cards) do
                _cards[#_cards+1] = v
            end
            for i = 1, 2 do
                if G.hand.cards[i] then 
                    local selected_card, card_key = pseudorandom_element(_cards, pseudoseed('hook'))
                    G.hand:add_to_highlighted(selected_card, true)
                    table.remove(_cards, card_key)
                    any_selected = true
                    play_sound('card1', 1)
                end
            end
            if any_selected then G.FUNCS.discard_cards_from_highlighted(nil, true) end
        return true end })) 
        self.triggered = true
        delay(0.7)
        return true
    end

[rare shell]

aye, yeah that was the code i was referencing

problems are two fold

1. i am smallbrained
2. it seems to be pretty tied to the blind itself (probably could chop out things like self.triggered true) and trying to jam variations of this code into my joker crashes the game multiple times and back

[cosmic shell]

the hook isn't doing anything particularly special, it just uses the same functions the button callbacks use to highlight and discard cards, I imagine you could apply that to a joker too.

[rare shell]

aye, i dont doubt that either, im just trying to figure out a way of making it not crash, and also figuring out the correct context to call it under

right now i have it under context.cardarea == G.hand and individual, and other little tests i ran seem to put it where it needs to proc, but ill go try to pull an error code from it

[wanton rapids]

https://github.com/notmario/balatrowebsitetemplate anyways, this is on github now

[rare shell]

yeah, works fine until i play my hand, then i get it screaming about trying to index a boolean value

[rare shell]

i pretty much plugged this code in trimming some bits like self.triggered and things i dont think would affect what's being indexed here, all under individual and G.Hand, any idea why this might be screaming about trying to index a boolean? does it not see G.hand here?

[wanton rapids]

i don't know

[rare shell]

understandable

well i got console to work so i suppose ill print my head off

[cosmic shell]

what values are you indexing to start with, since that's what the error's about.

[rare shell]

trying to index the hand, and then trying to randomly pick from them

okay, so it seems to not be able to index G.hand.cards

[empty brook]

alright yeah, tried to run a few tests, couldn't even get the game to startup on my end. turning boss blind code into joker code is some weird dark magic to me lmao

[rare shell]

okay now im just confused

simple little debug code

                if self.ability.name == 'Mind Mage' then
                    print("HELLO WORLD")
                end```

console output after like 2-3 hands played

HELLO WORLD
HDHHELLO WORLD
HRLD
H

[wanton rapids]

what??

[empty brook]

you know i wonder if maybe this isn't dark magic to me, but just dark magic in general

[rare shell]

what the christ is it grabbing

now i swapped it to

print(v.rank)

hand

121
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
1
2
3

i dont think im hooked into the right context

[empty brook]

i can't believe you discovered the secret card rank of 121

[wanton rapids]

stoocne card

[mild raft]

ace^2

[rare shell]

ohh???

i got it to work????

sort of?

i got the discard part down but now i am eternally discarding

uhm

[wanton rapids]

suffer the consequences of your actions

[rare shell]

okay so not eternally discarding, just discarding for 15 seconds

???

i didnt even select anything

this is some real cursed balatro hours

this is so strange

it really does take like 15 seconds to discard even if it seems likes its hung up

[cosmic shell]

are you still proccing under context.individual, because that runs for each card and it would discard for a while if you where discarding 2 cards per card.

[rare shell]

it is proccing under context individual, just not two cards at once

i did get what i wanted though, so ill just put in a simple counter

[cosmic shell]

what is the effect you're after exactly?

[rare shell]

mostly just the discard, discarding 2 at random would have been nice but i can work around with what i have

[cosmic shell]

if you just want to discard 2 at random, context.individual is probably wrong. you're probably after context.before or just the standard on joker effect.

[rare shell]

ill try moving it to before

hmm

well now moving it to context.before seems to not have it do anything at all

[cosmic shell]

you might need to do the effect as an event for it to work properly, if you haven't

[rare shell]

i'm calling it with add_event, yeh

ill try bumping it out to the normal joker trigger

back to triggering forever, but it seems to be working again

            if self.ability.name == 'Mind Mage' then
                for k, v in ipairs(G.hand.cards) do
                    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({ func = function()
                        local any_selected = nil
                        G.hand:add_to_highlighted(v, true)
                        table.remove(G.hand.cards, 1)
                        any_selected = true
                        play_sound('card1', 1)
                        if any_selected then G.FUNCS.discard_cards_from_highlighted(nil, true) end
                    return true end })) 
                end
            end``` code for context, i do recognize at the moment this does discard the entire hand

[cosmic shell]

the for loop should be inside the event i think

also you shouldn't be removing from G.hand.cards, the hook removes from a local clone of G.hand.cards

so that one card isn't selected twice

[rare shell]

where should i be removing it from?

[cosmic shell]

a local clone of cards called _cards, that you can make with an additional for loop, I think you've mixed up the 2 for loops inside of the hook's implementation

[rare shell]

ah, that explains why the hooks creates a local copy of it

[cosmic shell]

yeah, for loop 1 creates a copy, then for loop 2 runs 2 iterations (1 for each card it selects)

[rare shell]

my only question is what does the card key do here in this snippet?

local selected_card, card_key = pseudorandom_element(_cards, pseudoseed('hook'))

corresponding with table.remove(_cards, card_key)

[cosmic shell]

it's the index of the selected card

[rare shell]

ah, fair enough

alright, ive modified the hook code again to mostly work with my code, but now its still discarding my hand completely even with a counter

maybe ill move it back to context.before now?

[cosmic shell]

can't hurt to try

[rare shell]

discard still works but still discarding an ungodly amount of cards

trying now to get it to spit out a little message to see if its doing it for each card or just one instance

i sure picked a good day to pull an all nighter

[cosmic shell]

you should be able to do that by adding a return statement to the calculate_joker branch.

[rare shell]

you know it would help if i deleted my existing discard code and wondering why the heck nothings changed

[cosmic shell]

happens to the best of us

[rare shell]

okay yeah, so context.before does not do anything

[cosmic shell]

you might need to add a check to the cardarea being G.jokers

[sacred mulch]

thanks for the suggestion! very fun one

[rare shell]

OH?

IT WORKED?

WORM?

almost works at least-

it discards the 1 and the 3

ill just have to do some index fixing

it ended up having to be in G.jokers and joker_main

[cosmic shell]

you're probably after context.after, joker_main is what the observatory voucher uses

[wanton rapids]

hmmmm

[rare shell]

it only took 5 hours but another one down

wasnt sure on right most or left most honestly, left most is more punishing i think but

id like to hear what ya'll think

[cosmic shell]

it doesn't really matter, since the player can change the order of the cards in their hand

[rare shell]

very true

[rare shell]

thinking about it this was 20% me not knowing what context to put things under and 80% me not knowing how to code lua for jack

[cosmic shell]

I do think it would be more interesting if you could get it to happen in context.before though. because then it could synergize with raised fist

[rare shell]

i appreciate your patience and help jo

ill do a little more digging to see if i can rig it into context.before

strange enough i cant get it to pop up a message at all in context.before even with some simple triggers

[cosmic shell]

that's odd, midas mask happens in before and has a message so it should work.

[wanton rapids]

full page of jokers! will release shortly

[rare shell]

ah i think i might have had context.before not nested correctly

okay yup!

now it works with before

[wanton rapids]

is self.rank 1-13 for playing cards?

[rare shell]

unfortunately still doesnt work with raised fist but its the thought that counts

[wanton rapids]

oh i can just check raised fist

[rare shell]

iirc its 2-14

[wanton rapids]

wacky

ah

card.base.nominal

[grand geode]

far too niche i think

[wanton rapids]

yeah true

made it a bit less niche

[rare shell]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-dumb-duh-gif-13669009

[cosmic shell]

it might be more terse if you instead just checked the chip value, since that already kind of corresponds to the hand's sum. not sure if it's exactly what you're after though

[wanton rapids]

oh hmmm

that becomes harder to manipulate though

because you have to keep track of your chip buffers

[sacred mulch]

i feel like this sounds more convoluted than it is because of the repeat of "the last digit of"

maybe "Earn $5 if your played hand score and current money have the same final digit"

[wanton rapids]

true

[sacred mulch]

assuming i'm understanding it right

i'm not a programmer yet but i am a writer so at least i can try to help on that front :,)

could also try "end on the same number," imo that's more intuitive sounding

could probably tweak further, i'm sleepy, but that description definitely made me scratch my head

[wanton rapids]

yeah, good points

[gusty fulcrum]

has anyone started working on a points preview mod?

[sacred mulch]

"If the final number in your current money and the score for the played hand are the same, earn $5"

i'm too tired for this lol

good luck though! hope this helped

[wanton rapids]

yeah thanks

[sacred mulch]

yeah that's much clearer sounding

👍

well, actually, "sum of the played hand's values" is still throwing me...

question: wouldn't it be more overall useful if it was a smaller payout but multiplied for any matching digit? i feel that could be more fun since it'd be more likely to trigger and you could more easily manipulate/play around it (for instance, by ensuring you have double or triple digit money)

[wanton rapids]

oh!

yeah that's actually true

yeah that's fun

[tribal rover]

Ok finally got the injector to work

[grand geode]

me when i make a joker but can't actually add it because i can't sprite it

[wanton rapids]

rip

https://notmario.github.io/MoreFluff/ released my joker mod, has 15 jokers currently (also a demo of the joker mod webpage template thingy)

[strong swift]

is jester not a strictly better sly joker?

[wanton rapids]

good point

will make it +25 chips

[strong swift]

+25 is nothing

+40 maybe?

[wanton rapids]

yeah

+40 in next update

(now)

[past tendon]

Really cool webpage

[wanton rapids]

... why is sly joker so weak

[strong swift]

idk

[tribal rover]

Does anyone have a file example for a texture swap?

[rare shell]

aaaargh

you scoundrel

i was going to do a rose tinted joker

[wanton rapids]

oh

lmao

[rare shell]

i even had the art ready

[wanton rapids]

rip

[rare shell]

/>:(

great minds think alike

[tribal rover]

Is this the file structure I need?

[wanton rapids]

wait i left the testing challenge in oops

new version again

[tribal rover]

And then I just add "8BitDeck-negate.png" to both 1x and 2x right?

[rare shell]

gonna try setting up the jonkler webpage

[wanton rapids]

if you have any issues lmk

[rare shell]

🫡

i appreciate you going out of your way set all this up

[tribal rover]

Because ultimately I just used the vanilla playing deck and change all the face cards

[torpid oxide]

Anyone knows what causes the spectral cards to have this shiny effect ?

[proud wadi]

It'll be one of the shaders

[grand geode]

likely one of the shaders yea

[proud wadi]

it's the booster shader

it's set in Card:draw

[rare shell]

i never actually set up a github page before wew lad

oh wew

https://spikeof2010.github.io/JankJonklers/

any particular way youd prefer to be credited btw

[wanton rapids]

uhh

something at the bottom maybe

also; you can change the background colours and the way everything looks by editing these values

[urban badger]

how can I support other languages? I'm using steamodded

[torpid oxide]

Alright thanks

[torpid oxide]

Nice nice thanks

[wanton rapids]

oh that's unrelated to the question you asked

[torpid oxide]

Maybe I'll use it too

[wanton rapids]

if you do, use the files from
https://github.com/notmario/balatrowebsitetemplate instead

because i edited it a bit for my website

[proud wadi]

is that... comic sans mono?

i love it

[wanton rapids]

yeah, comic mono

[proud wadi]

why have i never thought to look for a mono version, i only knew about the "stylized" version of it called comic neue

[wanton rapids]

yeah comic neue is also nice

[tribal rover]

What is the sprite name for 8bitDeck?

Like is it "local sprite_cards1"?

[torpid oxide]

How do you make grey text ? ({C:grey}{} doesn't work)

[wanton rapids]

{C:inactive} iirc

[proud wadi]

inactive

[torpid oxide]

Damn

Thanks

[tribal rover]

Like I know Joker is "jkr" but I don't know what 8bitdeck is

This is what I have so far

[proud wadi]

one of the best ways to learn is to look at existing mods and understand what they're doing

[tribal rover]

Ahhh

But I don't think anyone has done the playing cards yet