⚙・modding-general

[cerulean herald]

LETSGOOOOOO

[charred sparrow]

How can I check logs if I use steamodded?

[jaunty lion]

i feel like it shouldn't have been that easy but i'm not complaining

[charred sparrow]

Debug Socket: Provides a way to output debug data.
The debug Socket is used to send debug informtions from the Game and the Mods outside of the Game. Since we can't launch Balatro linked with a console interface, it's the most efficient way to provide debug data.

[cerulean herald]

you mean crash reports or logs for steamodded?

[charred sparrow]

I mean sent some data from code into console

[cerulean herald]

oh a debug mode?

theres a mod that enables that

[charred sparrow]

Like this I think
sendDebugMessage("pre update")

[cerulean herald]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209857245316255744

[jaunty lion]

wait so now that i'm using steamodded does that mean i can't get achievements anymore

[cerulean herald]

you can reenable achievements

theres a mod for that too haha

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/blob/main/example_mods/AchievementsEnabler.lua

[jaunty lion]

lmao!

[cerulean herald]

also this downloader is staying open LOL

[dapper nacelle]

My man

[cerulean herald]

I have to manually close it ahaha

I like the idea but it needs a bit more finetuning, needs to open a window to where it was downloaded and let you specify where balatro.exe is

Bc lots of people wont have it in C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/ which is where I assume its targetting

[charred sparrow]

If I have code like this
love.graphics.print(G.hand.cards, 10, 10)
And I want to check value of G.hand.cards in game - how can I do it?
I can suppose that exists soem console logs where I can sent some debug messages

[charred sparrow]

Thaht looks like, but I do not know how can I sent some custom message from code into this interface

[jaunty lion]

so is there no way to activate or deactivate specific mods once they're in the folder

[cerulean herald]

ehh wait until a full on mod dev comes back and ask haha. I know you can enable crash reports as well in the main.lua file in the games exe, and I know you can enable debug mode, but idk about console logs or where theyre sent. could be here?

balamod also has a full on devtools api that might be of use to you

check here: https://github.com/UwUDev/balamod @charred sparrow

[lean dune]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/pull/24 aight finally shipped the PR

[cerulean herald]

it has a section for code injection

[hardy brook]

I'm legit about to go on a Joker arc with how annoying this is getting

[jaunty lion]

i could try balamod but idk if it'll work since i have steamodded already

[cerulean herald]

not you multi haha

[jaunty lion]

no i'm just saying

[cerulean herald]

I was talking to @charred sparrow whos trying to get their console commands working

[jaunty lion]

yeah i know

[cerulean herald]

yeah balamod and steamodded dont currently work together

they can both be installed

but balamod mods wont run

[hardy brook]

I got the IDEA, but I can't get the execution

[cerulean herald]

though the API works

[jaunty lion]

damn

[cerulean herald]

r2modman support is almost out tho, and that will support having both versions of the game! it will either inject balamod or steamodded depending on which you want at startup, AND it installs the modloaders for you AND any mods

[jaunty lion]

ooooh

that sounds sick

[cerulean herald]

you can have profiles too for switching modpacks easily

r2modman is dope

[hardy brook]

Is that the thing where those random people came in and started talking about a program that uses overwolf aka spyware?

[cerulean herald]

the thunderstore devs? uh no and yes lol. r2modman is different from thunderstore

but no theyre not random people I wouldnt say

[hardy brook]

I'm not using that eitherway

[jaunty lion]

wait overwolf is spyware?

[cerulean herald]

thunderstore is well known in the community

[hardy brook]

yes

[cerulean herald]

nah its bloatware lol

it just has telemetry data

[jaunty lion]

ah ! i should probably get that off my computer then

[cerulean herald]

it doesnt sell your info

which is why most prefer r2modman which doesnt have that

[hardy brook]

I'm still not using it

[cerulean herald]

thunderstore is just a skinned r2modman

dont use it @hardy brook lol

no one was asking you to

[dapper nacelle]

Some mods are already crazy good

Im mouthblown

[hardy brook]

i'm getting HostileCrim moment

And my target is my CODE

[cerulean herald]

you've been hostile to me for a while now LOL

[hardy brook]

I have?

Sorry

[cerulean herald]

so youlll get it back in return after so long LOLOL

its all good

[jaunty lion]

overwolf is now Gone 👍

[cerulean herald]

you dont have to use either, but at least r2modman support will be WELL appreciated and probably the most used by the community until workshop support is out

as its the easiest way to install mods for most games, is well known and reliable

[hardy brook]

👍

[jaunty lion]

oh wait is r2modman available to use currently or is it still being worked on

[lean dune]

#1210728178201526373 message playing card api version now available btw

[cerulean herald]

I think its almost done, they're just implementing the final touches on it

[hardy brook]

is this in the normal Steamodded?

[lean dune]

no, it's not merged yet

[hardy brook]

I'll try when they're merged. don't want to accidentally break one of my mods

[cerulean herald]

basic support is out though for r2modman I believe, now I think the devs for steamodded and balamod will have to add it to the repo, and then all the mod devs who want to publish their mods onto r2modman as well

[hardy brook]

So what does the Playing Card API do exactly?

[lean dune]

https://github.com/Aurelius7309/Steamodded/releases/tag/0.7.1-PRE you can use my compiled version of the loader for the time being if you want to

[cosmic shell]

being worked on, a dev at thunderstore has made a dll injector called lovely but that's it so far as we know

[cerulean herald]

we can ask @molten lily for confirmation on r2modman support

[lean dune]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/pull/24 this is the PR

[jaunty lion]

i'll be playing modded exclusively on my unlocked profile so i don't accidentally fuck up something on my Actual profile

[cerulean herald]

I think @molten lily said they had added a few more things to it yesterday

It'll be nice to tell people to just use r2modman to install the modloaders though instead of having so many people get stuck with how to drag n drop, defender/AV blocking the injectors, etc haha

plus itll be a nice way to easily switch between steamodded and balamod until workshop

esp with the new lovely injector that injects from memory instead of having to modify the games exe

[cerulean herald]

oh like everything unlocked?

that makes sense haha

[hardy brook]

Meanwhile me:

[cerulean herald]

yeah thats fine lolol, not every mod has to be on r2modman

if people really want your mod they'll go manually install it, or install it through workshop when thats out

[hardy brook]

exactly

[jaunty lion]

i downloaded https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1214374098914770944 so i can see how my jokers work in game but i haven't seen any of them in a run yet lmao

[cerulean herald]

@jaunty lion did you help with some of those jokers? or you mean the jokers in game?

also I think you need a newer version of steamodded for joker support

0.7.0 pre

let me give the link

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/releases

you need the version at the top otherwise modded jokers wont work

[jaunty lion]

i came up with the effects and another guy put them in the game

[cerulean herald]

NICE!

always cool to see your ideas make into a game or mod 😄

[jaunty lion]

so apparently they showed up in the collection when i first started up the game and then they magically disappeared when i started a run

[cerulean herald]

yeah haha

[jaunty lion]

yeah see here they are

[cerulean herald]

which steamodded did you download? the one on the main page?

0.6.2?

did you grab that one?

[jaunty lion]

i tried multiple versions so idk which one added the .exe to appdata

[cerulean herald]

you'll need this version if so

[jaunty lion]

0.6.2 was one of the versions i tried though

oh wait it . says the version at the top

yeah i'm using 0.6.2

[cerulean herald]

yeah thats why haha

[stone steppe]

has anyone tried modding on macos ?

[cerulean herald]

grab this version

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/releases/download/0.7.0-PRE/steamodded_injector.exe

[hardy brook]

welp

[cerulean herald]

Is the mac version mostly the same? pulls from the lua files?

[hardy brook]

I got a silver deck that works like my plain deck

woo hoo

[cerulean herald]

idk if anyone has modified the mac app to have mod support tho

havent seen a mac modloader yet

[jaunty lion]

looks like i'll have to disable my av to run this one

especially considering defender just deleted it while i wasn't looking

[cerulean herald]

interesting that the last version didnt require you to do that haha

[cosmic shell]

balamod has mac support

[cerulean herald]

THIS is very common ahaha

if you have windows defender I recommend defender control

https://github.com/qtkite/defender-control

one click turns off defender and turns it back on

instead of going through every menu in windows security, only for something to be missed or toggled back on randomly lmao

[jaunty lion]

i set it to allow the injector on the device

[cerulean herald]

also you might need to allow injector exe through your firewall

since it downloads 7zip from the internet I believe

someone had issues where it wasnt able to download until they allowed it

but others didnt so 🤷🏼‍♂️

[jaunty lion]

ok so i have the new version
do i delete the old copy of the injector from appdata or

[cerulean herald]

reverify the files on steam

for balatro, thatll reset the game exe to fresh

then you can use the new steamodded exe

[jaunty lion]

my custom suit colors 😔

oh well i can just reimport them later

[cerulean herald]

it doesnt get rid of mods

those are in appdata

it just verifies the balatro game folder

and gets you fresh stock copies from steam

[jaunty lion]

well the suit colors weren't a mod, i imported those into balatro.zip directly

[cerulean herald]

you mean into the games exe?

which you opened with 7zip or something yeah?

[jaunty lion]

yeah, i renamed it to a .zip and put the files in using 7zip

[cerulean herald]

ahh gotcha. yeah you can just right click on it then hover over 7zip and click open archive

dont have to rename it 😉

but yeah youll have to add that back in haha

[jaunty lion]

ooh ! i didn't know that was a thing

[cerulean herald]

BALAMOD BAYBEEEE

gotta love that

❤️

[jaunty lion]

ok so back to the steamodded thing
how do i put the new version in again

[cerulean herald]

in that case mods probably would work on mac @stone steppe

just need to add the mod files to wherever mac saves are located by creating a mod folder there

[proud wadi]

Hmmm, I was watching a streamer play balatro and I noticed that I always get the same tags on the first ante/same voucher in first ante shop, was doing a bit of digging, and I think my global tutorial status is messed up (in that I was never given a tutorial in full release of balatro)

[cerulean herald]

so after you reverify, disable defender, drag and drop the exe on top of the injector

like you did last time

[umbral pilot]

you can also use TCLI if you don't want to use r2mm, I can have an installer up and running for it this week. 😎

that has even less bloat, albeit at the cost of being pretty unstable

[proud wadi]

once i verify i guess i can file a bug report

[cerulean herald]

if you already had a save you dont get the tutorial again, same with if you already had a save and make a new profile

[cerulean herald]

you can try to copy your saves and move them to a new location. once you get the tutorial, maybe try copying the saves back over

but yeah it could possibly be a bug

[jaunty lion]

wtf i opened balatro.exe with the new injector and it installed 0.6.2 again

[proud wadi]

yeah, I think the tutorial bit is in settings.jkr, which is separate from my profile progress

[cerulean herald]

oh it may just say that

lemme check mine which has 0.7.0

yeah mine does too LOL

so youre good, you have the right version now

just reapply anything custom you added to the games exe that might have gotten wiped

[cerulean herald]

you may be right, copy that file over to another folder to back it up then delete it

if it works after starting a new run then you know that fixed it

I think you're right tho @proud wadi I remember reading that somewhere

[jaunty lion]

i readded the joker pack i had before and they showed up for a second but then i switched profiles and they disappeared

[cerulean herald]

everytime settings.jkr got deleted tutorial would reinitalize

[cerulean herald]

LOL showed up where? in collections?

[jaunty lion]

yeah

[cerulean herald]

or in the game?

[jaunty lion]

in collection

[cerulean herald]

weird, try restarting the game maybe

[jaunty lion]

i restarted the game and they're there again

[cerulean herald]

this version of steamodded is still not 100% stable

which is why its not the default download version on the main page

[proud wadi]

ok, i got the tutorial now, I had to remove settings.jkr AND not launch it through steam (because cloud save was restoring it I guess?)

[cerulean herald]

AHHHH yep that makes lots of sense!

totally forgot about cloud save lmao

yeah it will restore it by default if steam cloud is on I think haha

isnt it usually supposed to ask whether u want to use the local or cloud version before overwriting?

thats crazy! but maybe bc its not overwriting anything but just adding a missing file back in it didnt prompt u

[cerulean herald]

AYEEEEE

[proud wadi]

yeah, i think that's what it was doing, i'm hoping now that I've got a new one it'll complain and i can tell it to use my local

[jaunty lion]

now i just gotta hope they show up in the shop

[proud wadi]

i think it was weirdness caused by me not having played the second demo, because i had some other progress carry over as well

[cerulean herald]

yeah you can I believe, and if not you can delete or overwrite the steam cloud files I believe too

I've seen this before in other games

[proud wadi]

just glad to have it fixed/figured out

wasn't sure where to ask about it because I only realized something was wrong/what was wrong by looking at the game code

[cerulean herald]

what did you see in the code that made you realize you were having that issue?

Idk if I would have even realized it 😆

[proud wadi]

well it's not an issue in the code, I just saw that when selecting tags for a new run it checked tutorial progress

same for first voucher

and those were what were always consistent on my resets

[cerulean herald]

yeah my bad I wrote that weird lmao, I meant what you saw in the code that pointed out u were having a problem with starter tags

[proud wadi]

yeah, just the G.SETTINGS.tutorial_progress call there

[cerulean herald]

AHHH

big brain plays 🧠

Glad you noticed that and sorted it out! Yeah let localthunk know!

In the #1200105253559873707 page here

[proud wadi]

a "reset tutorial" button in the game, or "skip tutorial" would solve it

now that it's confirmed I'll throw a post there

[cerulean herald]

👍🏼

[cerulean herald]

when does it call this btw? during the start of every new run?

I noticed I only got the tutorial for my first profile, but after that never saw it again even on new profiles, so that would make sense

[proud wadi]

it's in Game:start_run, if not loading from a save (that's what I assume savetable is) it sets the boss, voucher, and small and big blind tags

[cerulean herald]

I wanted my brother to see the tutorial again on a new profile, but it wouldnt load back up lmao

But he just shrugged it off so I didnt have to move/delete my save/settings files temporarily

It'd be nice to have a small mod that can call the tutorial again, or disable it/reset it

Hopefully its added as a feature to the game too

[jaunty lion]

AYO IT WORKS

[cerulean herald]

SHEEEEESHHH

thats huge, very POGchamp

[hardy brook]

I'm getting too frustrated, I'l lcome back to it

[jaunty lion]

so the extra jokers do work as intended
from the looks of it they only disappear from the game if you switch profiles

[cerulean herald]

AYOOO NICE

I'm guessing that's an issue with the test version of steamodded

Which isn't 100% stable as steamo mentioned

Should be fully functional even when switching profiles in a future update

I'll have to check out that mod to see what it does 😄

Might add it to my game soon too. Still trying to get through the main game relatively custom card free though

After I beat gold stake, then I'm gonna go crazy on custom cards

[jaunty lion]

one thing i noticed is that custom jokers are considered "new" in the collection every time you boot up the game

by which i mean they have that exclamation mark on them

[cerulean herald]

Ohhh interesting. Perhaps bc the current modloader version is adding it to the games code each time, or maybe more likely bc theres no current entries for these custom cards in the games collection lua file?

I'm guessing they would need to be some code added to the lua file which contains the collection's card entries for the custom jokers/cards, otherwise the game has no way of knowing/storing the info that you acquired those cards before

[jaunty lion]

now that i know custom jokers Kind of work i might try making more of them

maybe eventually i'll figure out how to mod them in myself

(instead of hoping someone else does it for me)

[stable crag]

Yes, you need to add it to the collection before the game loads your save, I had the same issue with the Golden challenge but it works now

[cerulean herald]

DO IT! I'm considering writing a small mod myself to get started too 😄 I've already modified someone elses mod and I know like next to no coding lmao, I'm just good with tech stuff, bit of Linux/Docker knowledge and whatnot, pc building, hardware knowledge/modifying, game console modifying, mobile modifying/rooting/tweaking, etc etc. Even with just that I was able to add a simple kb shortcut function to someone elses mod with their help (I wrote all the code, found all the corresponding values, I just messed up ONE WORD which they fixed for me, then it worked 😆 )

[jaunty lion]

oh wait is that why it disappears

[stable crag]

Yup

I moved the on_enable function of balamod to fix Issues like this

[jaunty lion]

ok then how do i add collection entries to the .lua file

[cerulean herald]

wait is that why it disappears when you switch profiles? or is it why it counts as new in the collection after every game boot? or both?

[stable crag]

Huuuuuh

Wait a sec

[cerulean herald]

haha so there was 2 things @stable crag

[jaunty lion]

maybe? when i first boot up the game it shows however many out of 345 items in the collection on one profile and 340 on the other

[cerulean herald]

1 was every time they switched profiles the custom jokers would disappear from the collection altogether

the 2nd thing was after every game reboot the custom jokers would show as "new" in the collection

[stable crag]

You should check this mod https://github.com/Mysthaps/BalatroMods/blob/main/Balamod/GoldenChallenge/mods/GoldenChallenge.lua

[cerulean herald]

hmhmhm

does @grand geode mod not do that?

I had someone whos been using it, I can ask them actually too

[stable crag]

I know that after restarting the game, it remembers that I already won this challenge

[cerulean herald]

oh wait thats the challenge mod not mysts joker mod

hmmm interesting. Maybe bc it's not stored in the collection like jokers are? I'm not sure tho as I haven't completed any challenges yet myself lmao and haven't looked at the code for challenges

[white scarab]

I know that the way I have my mod save settings was by making my own file that the mod loads from the mod folder

which contains the mod settings

[cerulean herald]

The custom jokers need to an entry in the collection I think, so an entry probably has to be made for them in the code that contains the collection

Is my guess to avoid having the game thing the custom jokers are new cards every time the game is restarted, or completely disappear every time the profile is switched (this might be caused by something else though)

[white scarab]

I think all the item prototypes are initialized on profile switching

which includes the list of jokers

so when you reload your profile it reverts to the original list of jokers

[cerulean herald]

AHHH this would make sense too for that issue

[white scarab]

it's G:init_item_prototypes() function iirc

[cerulean herald]

did you write some code in your mod file so that whenever profiles are switched your cards are still there?

or did your mod do something other than add cards and you just mean in general for saving mod settings for a mod?

[white scarab]

the mod I'm referring to is a speedrun timer mod

so it has global settings that save across profiles, since the main profile it uses for runs is a temporary one that has all of the requirements for submitting to Speedrun.com and can be configured through the settings

as well as for things like switching categories and having the timer start and stop

[cerulean herald]

ahhh I see

Okay so this custom joker mod probably has to implement that function or a similar one relative to jokers

[white scarab]

yep; ideally you would want to save that in the profile files

[cerulean herald]

I think it would need to add that these custom jokers have been acquired before as @white scarab described, and like @stable crag said it also needs to add the jokers to the collection before the save is loaded

@jaunty lion maybe try adding this yourself using some other jokers mods with this already functioning as a reference! Or you can ask the mod author or ask them to help you figure it out while you do most of the legwork 😄

That could be a good start to modding like you mentioned as it's not creating a whole NEW mod but adding a couple new functions to a currently existing one 😉

and when something doesn't work, the mod author can help you figure out any issues along the way! Plus everyone in this dope community

😄

That should solve both problems I think!

[jaunty lion]

hmm

maybe i could try using myst's mods as a reference point

[cerulean herald]

Yeah do it! Make sure mysts joker mods have those 2 things functioning though first too, otherwise you'll run into the same issue haha. Then you could compare mysts joker mod to the one you're working on and see which parts are different!

And if not, you could just ask the author if they could patch those 2 things in using the info here as a starting guide, and leave the mod trying for another time 👍🏼 I do think it's a pretty good place to start though if you're interested in it!

[jaunty lion]

oops

[cerulean herald]

Use the games lua files as a reference as well, especially for the collection parts, and use a tool like Jetpilot or sublime editor to search though all the lua files in the game folder at once so you don't have to search through them one by one

[cerulean herald]

THE DREADED CRASH SCREEN

saw this so many times the other day 😆 a mod devs worst nightmare lmfao

[jaunty lion]

i imported myst's jokers and they're also doing the thing where they show up as new on every startup

[summer tusk]

for learning how to make ui mods, which mods would be good recommendations to look at?

[jaunty lion]

apparently i had two balatros open at the same time idk how that happened

aaand it crashed when i tried to open an arcana pack

i think i know which mod caused that

(it was myst's mod)

[full hare]

how easy is it to change the names of the hands in the game? Is there one variable, or is it hard-coded everywhere?

[grand geode]

que?

[hardy brook]

So... Apparently there's 3 versions of Gros Michel depending on if you played Playtest, Open Beta, or Release Version

[grand geode]

did i fuck up something

oug

[jaunty lion]

hang on let me crash it again and i'll post the screen

[grand geode]

were you playing on an existing save?

[jaunty lion]

i was continuing from an existing run

[grand geode]

yeah that's why

[jaunty lion]

damn

maybe adding mods in the middle of a run isn't a good idea LOL

[grand geode]

extra_gacha_pulls is defined at the start of the run

yeah lol

i can maybe add a safety net

[grand geode]

regarding this, i haven't looked at how the game saves it's stuff but i'm not planning to atm

[jaunty lion]

so since i have mods installed now, how do i go back to vanilla balatro if i decide i want to play without them

do i just do the integrity check thing on steam

[grand geode]

yeah

[umbral pilot]

which modloader?

[grand geode]

delete the .exe and verify integrity

[jaunty lion]

steamodded

[jaunty lion]

and then when i want to return to modded i can just run the .exe through the injector again right

[grand geode]

mhm

[jaunty lion]

gotcha

[umbral pilot]

if you're alright fiddling with things, lovely doesn't modify your game so you can swap back and forth.

[grand geode]

gonna try lovely when i have access to my pc

[jaunty lion]

i think i'll try lovely too

being able to swap back and forth easily sounds very nice

[grand geode]

i already have three different exes this will just bring it down to two

[cerulean herald]

I gotcha I gotcha

Another mod might have implemented this already tho, and for your golden challenges uwu said they were saving properly @grand geode

[cerulean herald]

yeppers, just verify. It'll revert everything back to stock since it checks the hash of everything then redownloads everything with a mismatch

[cerulean herald]

what I suggest doing is making 2 balatro folders, 1 for your normal game with your prefered mods, and one to tinker with

you can have the normal game+mods be the version steam points at to open with its shortcut

and have the 2nd tinkering balatro folder in another location

I would keep a clean copy of the balatro.exe somewhere too so you don't have to reverify everytime something doesnt work either

or keep backups of the files you modify in the games exe so if they break, you can easily revert the changes back. If you keep your editor of choice open the entire time your messing with the games files and also playing the game (like notepad++) you should be able to just revert the changes without having to restore the game exe at all btw, since it'll just rollback whatever modifications you made to the file.

Just make sure to save your changes before running balatro.exe, but keep the editor (notepad++ or sublime or whatever) open in the background. Dont extract the files, just open the game archive using 7zip and open the lua files with notepad++ or sublime or whatever editor directly from the 7zip archive

Once you click "save" itll ask you if you want to overwrite the lua file in the game archive, just say yes and it'll apply the changes

[jaunty lion]

i copied the files of the modded version to a separate folder and did an integrity check to restore the game to vanilla

now i have Two Balatros

[cerulean herald]

SAME BRUDDER LMAO

[cerulean herald]

POG. With lovely and r2modman, that won't even be necessary (and in lovely, current isnt!) I'm gonna have to install lovely myself later today or tomorrow!

[rare shell]

good evening modding chat

https://tenor.com/view/kangerscream-cat-funny-sound-kanger-gif-10800162690937707549

[rare shell]

gee multi, your mom let you have TWO balatros?

[hardy brook]

You fool I have 5

[jaunty lion]

wowie!

[hardy brook]

the demos are all the same

I just forgot to remove the dupes

I'm working on a bunch of research on the old versions for stuff

[stable crag]

I have the exe of the demo 0.9.0j (I'm not sure about the letter) somewhere

[white scarab]

I wonder if lovely could be used to integrate both Steamodded and Balamod

I saved a lot of demo versions...

[hardy brook]

oh dang

[stable crag]

Omg

[white scarab]

I only kept like 2 from the first demo (one is on google drive) but I think I have all in the second demo

[hardy brook]

We definitely need to archive all this

[white scarab]

1.0.0 versions can be downloaded from steam if you know how to do it

but I don't think demo versions can

[hardy brook]

One moment, gonna do something RQ

[stable crag]

We should try with steam console

[hardy brook]

I'm adding the both of ya for something

[white scarab]

I wonder what the pre-1.0.0 versions look like in the release section; those could also be archived

[white scarab]

going to download the oldest one just to see

[jaunty lion]

teehee !

[molten lily]

We'll sort out the r2modman Balatro game addition as soon as possible I'll let everyone know when it's done and available

We'll also share a link to a guide on how to package mods for Thunderstore, it's pretty simple. (Put mod files and a manifest file in a zip and upload to Thunderstore)

[rare shell]

going to try seeing if i can implement a deck idea: can someone jog my noggin for a joker in game that removes cards from your deck (not selected cards, like the spectral 6 joker or trading card)?

[mild raft]

real quick question: do i need to use the balamod loader if i changed a asset from the base files?

because ive been trying some stuff and nothing is changing in my game

[hardy brook]

just random cards?

[rare shell]

i guess random cards would do

im just trying to get a good grasp on what the code would be to do so

want to try making a deck that removes the lowest ranking cards in your deck after each blind

[hardy brook]

Check here

https://balatro.wiki/en/Jokers

[mild raft]

if anyones curious im trying to turn every instance of "joker" into "jonkler"

[ancient junco]

can you have a function in a deck mod (steamodded) run on when the deck is selected, so that for example, os.time doesnt stay the same

[white scarab]

Yes - you’d have to modify the function that executes when you select a deck

[lone tinsel]

it doesn't as of now. just a regular steam emulator + a small config change works

[rocky vapor]

what software are people using to create custom art for mods?

[jaunty lion]

any old art program can work

[rocky vapor]

can you give an example?

[rare shell]

im having trouble turning my cards into gold editions

ive grafted cards from midas mask but im getting an error thrown when my card is scored

        elseif context.repetition then
            if context.cardarea == G.play then
                if self.ability.name == 'Suspicious Vase' and not context.blueprint then
                    local vase = 0
                    for k, v in ipairs(context.full_hand) do
                        if (v.base.id == 2 or v.base.id == 3) then 
                            vase = vase + 1
                            v:set_ability(G.P_CENTERS.m_gold, nil, true)
                            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                                func = function()
                                    v:juice_up()
                                    return true
                                end
                            })) 
                        end
                    end
                    if vase > 0 then 
                        return {
                            message = localize('k_gold'),
                            colour = G.C.MONEY,
                            card = self
                        }
                    end
                end
            end```
the little snippet i have here

[lone tinsel]

gimp, krita, inkscape, adobe illustrator, adobe photoshop, paint.net, paint tools sai, affinity designer, affinity photo

[rocky vapor]

thank you!

[cosmic shell]

do NOT make pixel art in inkscape or illustrator lmao

[lone tinsel]

i was just listing digital art software lel

[rocky vapor]

shiiit i was about to boot inkscape...

guess ill look into some of the other options

[lone tinsel]

best not to do pixel art in vector

[rare shell]

svg jimbo isnt real he cant hurt you

[lone tinsel]

try krita

[rare shell]

you know i just realized it would help if i renamed all my variables

[rocky vapor]

ill have a look

[rare shell]

okay so i think its getting mad about the for loop in my snippet

do you not have access to context.full_hand when youre in context.repetition?

[ancient junco]

which one is that? is it the back.apply_to_run?

[white scarab]

I believe so

[mild raft]

i really should try and find that pixel brush (i literally only use the base tool brush)

[lone tinsel]

😭

[rare shell]

okay im pulling my hair out

so specifically this snippet lua for k, v in ipairs(context.full_hand) do if (v.base.id == 2 or v.base.id == 3) then v:set_ability(G.P_CENTERS.m_gold, nil, true) G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({ func = function() v:juice_up() return true end })) end end it DOES read when a 2 or 3 is played, but crashes immediately afterwards? i dont see why my for loop wouldnt work here??

[ancient junco]

ty it worked

[hexed surge]

the oldest version is 0.8.6b

don't install its so weird

[rare shell]

okay i think its literally because of the context i had it under???

[white scarab]

If you do make a backup of your game saves

[rare shell]

i changed the context area to G.Jokers and it works now

[white scarab]

It crashed unless I moved them

[rare shell]

okay i got my joker working but now the only thing is that its applying after being scored

[mild raft]

still need a answer to this ;-; (im better terms i really just need to know how to put the resources folder back into the .exe

[clever rampart]

i still need help with knowing how to outright remove cards from deck in the init effects (no, dont tell me to look at the abandoned deck, i have and i still dont understand it)

[edgy magnet]

@clever rampart The only thing I have gotten to work so far is

local Backapply_to_runRef = Back.apply_to_run
function Back.apply_to_run(arg_56_0)
Backapply_to_runRef(arg_56_0)

if arg_56_0.effect.config.only_one_rank_A then
    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
        func = function()
            for iter_57_0 = #G.playing_cards, 1, -1 do
                sendDebugMessage(G.playing_cards[iter_57_0].base.id)
                if G.playing_cards[iter_57_0].base.id ~= 'A' then
                    table.remove(G.playing_cards, iter_57_0)
                end
            end

            return true
        end
    }))
end

end

[rare shell]

okay now i have a new problem in i have no clue why the hell my xmult isnt being applied

hmmm

nevermind i got it to work but i have no clue why it works now

magical game this is

i realize the method i am using to apply the glass buff after converting the card is half baked at best but we'll cross that build later

[clever rampart]

it almost works for me

[edgy magnet]

I'm not a great coder ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clever rampart]

it does remove them, but it still appears in the next hand, which is weird

maybe its caused by my other function

[cerulean herald]

the demo likely has a different appid but I can find that, it should still be up and able to be grabbed with steamcmd, it may just be hidden from public view. I think there also are sites that may have some/many/all demo versions floating around, I'll check later

[cerulean herald]

HUGE

[clever rampart]

yeah, still need help here

[hardy brook]

I just realized i’ve been trying to mod balatro today for 9 hours

Good grief

[rare shell]

YEEHAW

(and should this count 4s)

[clever rampart]

i cant use other peoples things are references because i havent seen anyone remove cards

[hardy brook]

Nice

Btw, i’m remaking holo, poly, and foil decks as best i can and call it a night on coding mods

I may do some art for hanafuda

Idk

[edgy magnet]

Sounds like a fun card, good job!

[mild raft]

that vase looks. sus sus among us

[mild raft]

lets go

i love a holographic deck with the foil textures

[hardy brook]

yes. they do work as they used to. no, editions do not work on the backs anymore. They're textures

crap i did put them backwards

ok fixed

[mild raft]

now we need silver deck

[wild thunder]

what about gray deck

[hardy brook]

Silver is being a pain

also we need braided

[clever rampart]

i want to have it so it gives an eternal space joker at the start too

[ancient junco]

is there a command in steamodded to exit the game? (like G.state_complete but for game running)

[white scarab]

I saved some offline but even if you did play the demos steam command line doesn’t give you access to downloading versions of them

[hexed surge]

this is good

[ancient junco]

can someone please help

[late canyon]

So this does exist

[molten igloo]

correct me if im wrong before they were scrapped they became 5, 3, 2?

i remeber seeing somthing with thoose nymbers for the decks

[hardy brook]

idk

[tacit mountain]

New update for Steamodded, bundling a lot of new features and addressing once again the issues with injectors: https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/releases/tag/0.7.2

[empty brook]

coincidentally, on the topic of jokers

once again i am faced with joker code and repeatedly ask it "Why won't you work, you stupid bastard?"
trying to get an xmult joker working. i wanted to try and get some weirder stuff going (The plan is to make it like Red Card, but you get x mult and only when you skip spectral packs), but to make sure i could even have a good framework going at all, i'm trying to make a generic x2 mult joker first

here is my attempt at it, and it does not work. it doesn't crash or anything, at least--but it's not doing anything

           if context.cardarea == G.jokers then
                if context.before then
                           if self.ability.name == 'Exorcist' then
                            return {
                                message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult',vars={self.ability.extra.Xmult}},
                                Xmult_mod = self.ability.extra.Xmult,
                            }
                        end
                end
            end
        end
    end

i've tried like 3 different ways for doing this and none of them have seemed to do anything, which makes me think the solution is probably more along the lines of missing one line of code near the start to tell it to Do Things

but i've got no clue lol

[grand geode]

try checking for SMODS.end_calculate_context(context) instead (assuming you're using Steamodded 0.7.2)

[spiral cosmos]

do mods disable unlocks and achievements?

[grand geode]

Steamodded disables achievements by default, there is a mod that reenables them

[cerulean herald]

Unlocks are fine tho!

[clever rampart]

..anyone?

[rare shell]

i had an issue like this today, i fixed mine by just using x_mult instead of xmult_mod

why does it work?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

question to you folks, any reason why this is triggering off of every hand?

elseif context.before then
                if self.ability.name == "Highlander Joker" and next(context.poker_hands['High Card']) and not context.blueprint then
                    for k, v in ipairs(context.scoring_hand) do
                        v.ability.perma_bonus = v.ability.perma_bonus or 0
                        v.ability.perma_bonus = v.ability.perma_bonus + self.ability.extra
                        return {
                            extra = {message = localize('k_upgrade_ex'), colour = G.C.CHIPS},
                            colour = G.C.CHIPS,
                            card = self
                        }
                    end
                end
            end```

[limpid junco]

is there a way to reset the stats (records) but not the unlocks on a balatro profile?

[rare shell]

okay im coming to the conclusion that this is proccing off of everything because every hand has a high card in it

[empty brook]

i'm not sure as to why that's triggering on every hand--but i recently got a joker working to only trigger on Pairs, which i did as such

if self.ability.name == 'The Old One-Two' and context.scoring_name == self.ability.extra.poker_hand then

with the extra then being extra = {retriggers = 1, poker_hand = 'Pair'} (it's a retrigger joker; yours wouldn't need that part lol)

i had the exact same issue--from what i can tell, poker_hands does containing

but scoring_name is like, The Name It's Scored As

taken from To Do List

[rare shell]

huh

did the trick

🙇

[empty brook]

👍

i will now be trying your suggestion for my own joker issue, hopefulyl that works
and updating to steamodded 0.7.2 lmao, i started work on mods today before that came out so i just haven't updated yet

[rare shell]

hmmmmmm

it seems to no longer be applying the chip bonus to every scoring card

does context.scoring_hand not include things like stones?

[empty brook]

...hmmm. that is weird actually

so is it like, applying the chip bonus only to one card?

[rare shell]

the high card yeh

[empty brook]

you know, for my thing i tried it with Splash, but i didn't try it with stone cards. i'm gonna go real quick check and see if it works on those (and thus it's a different issue with what you've got here), or if this suggestion i gave just Doesn't Work With Stone Cards At All

[rare shell]

ill test it with splash since thats an intended interaction as well

[empty brook]

okay yeah, it still works with stone

so there's something else going on here

[rare shell]

yeah doesnt work with splash on my end

[empty brook]

that's really weird...

[rare shell]

is there a field for card that checks if its scoring or not??

if so i can try iterating and checking for that on each card in playing hand

[empty brook]

there might be? trying to think here of what would be the right choice... hmm

[rare shell]

maybe if i move it to a different context

[empty brook]

i wonder if context.other_card would be necessary somewhere here

[rare shell]

yep it was the context

i had it on context.before but moved it to context.individual

[empty brook]

ahhhhhh, yeah that makes sense

[rare shell]

still gettin the hang of this but we make it work

one more joker and ill finally release my pack

[empty brook]

hell yeah! i'm excited for it

what you've shown so far looks really cool

[rare shell]

i tweaked them a bit but ill get to tweaking it more once people get their hands on it

[empty brook]

my own pack i still have like... the hardest stuff left lmao
i'm working my way up in terms of difficulty, to try and like, properly Learn How 2 Jokester™️ before i dive headfirst into challenging stuff

but for now i've gotta get this x mult bad boy working. gonna try your suggestion you gave now!

[rare shell]

todays work so far

[burnt wadi]

Hey I'm new to modding and was wondering if anyone knew a workaround for my issue, I'm tyring to use the steammodder link and windows just won't let me do it cuase it thinks it's a virus.

[empty brook]

hi English Major alert here: highlander joker should not capitalize "Scored" on the second line. source: Hiker doesn't, and i'm pretty sure it's never capitalized unless it's the beginning of a sentence

[empty brook]

yeah that happens, due to it being like, an unsigned .exe or something? it's nothing really to worry about--but if you don't want to let it bypass or turn off your defender temporarily or anything, i believe there is like, a python alternative thing on the github page

update on my own thing: yeah unfortunately your suggestion doesn't seem to be working Lyman. gonna go update to 0.7.2 of steamodded and try Myst's lol

[rare shell]

i was checking the wiki and saw it capitalized there so i thought it was the formatting :y

turns out it wasnt

[empty brook]

honestly i've been meaning to just like. go through the entire wiki someday and fix every formatting error

[rare shell]

sisyphean task

[empty brook]

it would take a while but it bugs me enough that i'll probably do it someday

[empty brook]

i'm already an English major--the crown of Sisyphus fits snugly around my head

what if i just push the boulder a little harder this time. maybe it'll go over the mountain...

[mental solar]

Stone cards with highlander joker are broken!!! And I love it

[rare shell]

https://github.com/spikeof2010/JankJonklers/tree/main

🫡

also forgot to share the last jonkler

[empty brook]

oh hell yes

[woeful thistle]

these look great! Besides your github, is there any sort of modding page for Balatro on any of the big mod distributors yet?

In general, not just your mod specifically

[dapper nacelle]

This has great potential!

[haughty hinge]

YOUR???

lmao

[livid yacht]

love this concept!

[wanton rapids]

horrendous joker ideas

[cerulean herald]

There absolutely is if you mean a collections of mods!

https://github.com/jie65535/awesome-balatro @woeful thistle

[cerulean herald]

OH WAIT SORRY MISREAD LOL

r2modman support is basically complete I believe, now the modloader authors just have to add their mods to the repo for the game on r2 😄

That means thunderstore as well since that's essentially a reskin of r2modman

[rare shell]

ok so back to square 3

does scoring hand not count cards for the purposes of splash or stone cards? or am i just iterating through the list of played cards wrong?

[empty brook]

my only guess at this point involves how Hiker uses context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus--like, maybe the fact it's got context.other_card, while yours uses context.scoring_hand?

but i'm really not sure at this point lol

[rare shell]

oh hey

turns out i just didnt need to iterate through the hand

just came to that conclusion looking at agate

removed the for loop and now it works fine

bad joker ideas with lyman btw

[exotic dagger]

i fail to see how that's bad

the only bad thing is the rarity cause that means you won't find it often :P

[cerulean herald]

Oh btw, this documentation might help you if you're still trying to do this https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded

[wanton rapids]

oh it's on r2modman now?

[cerulean herald]

It has a section for outputting debug data through a debug socket

[wanton rapids]

which modloader?

[cerulean herald]

pretty much!

@tacit mountain and @stable crag just have to add their losders to the r2modman repo now

[livid yacht]

Cool as hell art

[wanton rapids]

oh yeah that makes sense

[cerulean herald]

And then mod authors will all likely flock it it ASAP

[wanton rapids]

more sell jokers

[cerulean herald]

As it will be the main tool used to install/manage mods until workshop support is out

I believe that's the case anyways but I'll read through the thunderstore/r2modman devs last messages just in case

But I believe support was basically implemented and now all that's left is adding the loaders and mods to the repo

[wanton rapids]

mhm

does it use lovely to load the modloaders?

[cerulean herald]

Give me more op jokers baby

I'll take em all

[cerulean herald]

I think it will yes

It patches in memory anywYs

So it essentially works similarly to how lovely does out of the box, but obv using lovely would be the preferred method from now on

For both modloaders

[wanton rapids]

mhm

[cerulean herald]

That with r2modman will be very dope 😄

[wanton rapids]

so on r2modman you would install the modloader, then install other mods for said modloader?

[cerulean herald]

Esp since you can switch between balsmod/steamodded with 1 click

And can have multiple profiles for different mod combinations

That u can launch with 1 click

And send mod packs/profiles to ur friends

[wanton rapids]

yeah ik how r2modman works, it's pretty good

[cerulean herald]

So they can play using all ur mod combination

Yeah most do I think haha

Some didnt tho earlier

So I figured I'd mention it 🙂

[cerulean herald]

Yeppers!

Similar to a game like lethal company

Oick ur modloaders of choice, then pick ur mods

Then it'll inject them all from memory

[wanton rapids]

so when does this release on r2modman?

[cerulean herald]

Certain substances dealer joker 👀🔥😱

[cerulean herald]

Let me check the last messages hold up

[wanton rapids]

alr

[wanton rapids]

could make it after 3 rounds like invisible joker

then it'd become a sidegrade of sorts

[cerulean herald]

So according to one thunderstore dev they said this yesterday, but I think another gave another update #⚙・modding-general message

Let me find what they said again

[wanton rapids]

alright

[cerulean herald]

This #⚙・modding-general message and this as well #⚙・modding-general message

[wanton rapids]

my mod probably won't be done for about a week so i'll wait for it to release before i put it on there

[cerulean herald]

I think another dev said something too where was that

[stable crag]

What's r2modman ?

[cerulean herald]

@umbral pilot (the maker of lovely injector and also a thunderstore dev) said this #⚙・modding-general message They might be able to provide an update on r2/thunderstore support too

[cerulean herald]

It's like one of the most used mod managers

Very well known in the gaming community esp modded gaming and the preferred modloader for most next to workshop

[wanton rapids]

basically they host a repository of mods / loaders and allow quick downloading / swapping of mods

originally made for risk of rain 2 iirc hence the name

[cerulean herald]

Once support is dropped most people will likely install mods and modloaders from here until workshop support is added 😄 that's usually what happens with most games that get r2modman support

[hazy lantern]

is it possible to mod this game on the steam deck? i mostly play it there relaxing out or before bed

[wanton rapids]

when r2modman support gets released most likely

otherwise you can use instructions for linux in desktop mode

[cerulean herald]

Yes

I helped someone with that 2 days ago

Feel free to shoot me a DM and I'll help ya out

[hazy lantern]

ah okay will do

[cerulean herald]

It works with proton and nstively, just injecting the modloader can be a bit of pain if they want to use proton for things like reshade support (though it's more recommended to use the builtin AMD/Steamos shading filters anyways, basically the same as reshade but less latency and overhead on Steamos)

@umbral pilot has been working pretty closely with Steamo to implement lovely injector into steamodded as well, so I believe Steamo will be adding steamodded to r2modman very shortly after full support for the game with r2 is complete

I think Steamo might have mentioned adding it to r2 as well but id have to double check

[stable crag]

Ok ok, I'll see later

[cerulean herald]

They provide documentation for how to add a mod/modloader to r2 as well

I think they might have linked it in a message I linked to up there recently ⬆️

[stable crag]

Oh it's thundersore right ?

[wanton rapids]

thunderstore hosts the mods

r2modman is used to download / install them

[stable crag]

Ok so thunderstore is like the server and R2 the client?

[wanton rapids]

yeah pretty much

[cerulean herald]

same thing yeah

thunderstore is essentially a reskin of r2modman

they both use the same api and repos

[wanton rapids]

but thunderstore has ads where r2modman does not

[cerulean herald]

many prefer r2modman bc it doesnt have overwolf

which is essentially bloatware which collects some telemetry on the users

while r2modman doesnt do that stuff

#⚙・modding-general message

#⚙・modding-general message

#⚙・modding-general message

theres a bit more info uwu

oh also this #⚙・modding-general message

forgot that one haha, that's the biggest explanation for the differences between r2modman and thunderstore

[jade hawk]

wait. r2modman is seperate from thunderstore?

bruh

[wanton rapids]

r2modman uses thunderstore to download mods

[jade hawk]

sorry i mean overwolf

[cerulean herald]

oh I never knew that actually haha

good to know!

[wanton rapids]

it uses the thunderstore servers

[cerulean herald]

that makes sense, I've seen thunderstore out for a while while r2modman I think came into existance with ror2

[wanton rapids]

i thought thunderstore mod manager was a fork of r2modman

although i may be wrong

[molten lily]

To clarify a bit;
There's thunderstore.io (the website which has the API for download mods, that r2 and TSMM uses)
Thunderstore Mod Manager (TSMM, the reskin + some minor features of r2modman)
r2modman (the open source mod manager that Thunderstore devs contribute towards)

[molten lily]

Yes Thundestore Mod Manager does use r2modman as a base.

[cerulean herald]

thunderstore has overwolf whereas r2modman does not. If you want a version without overwolf, it exists and thunderstore r2modman pretty high as it's top mod for most games

[jade hawk]

icic, thank you

[cerulean herald]

AHHH

okay now that makes sense

Got all flipped around there lmfao

[molten lily]

It's alright for everyone to use r2modman if they want to thunderstore.io server costs and all the development are funded by ads, so it does help out when people either browse the website for mods or use the Thunderstore Mod Manager

[wanton rapids]

how will the thunderstore support for balatro inject mods?

[molten lily]

https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector

With this one

[wanton rapids]

alright

[cerulean herald]

how lovely

🥁

badumtsk

[molten lily]

We try to keep everything that we can open source, so that the community can make their own educated decisions on what they want to use

Sorry for small promotion, but this is a cool feature on the website: You can look up the source code, if the mod author has made it visible, example: https://thunderstore.io/package/TeamMoonstorm/Starstorm2/source/ This might be nice for anyone who is skeptical on what a mod is actually doing.

[jolly kiln]

has anyone had any luck installing the modloader on linux? keep getting an error upon launching the game

[wanton rapids]

ok, looking at the mod manifest for a rounds mod i made a while ago, would something like this be right for distribution of mods?

[cerulean herald]

ROUNDS BAYBEEEE

god I love that game

after I saw Toast play it for the first time

[jolly kiln]

looks correct

[cerulean herald]

I HAD to play it

[frail karma]

Does anyone have an idea on how I would invert the currently selected cards?

[jolly kiln]

used thunderstore all the time for BRCF mods, great site

[molten lily]

Yep, it's going to be similar to other games mod packages in TS. I'll get that one sorted out and locked in, when metherul is back online

[jolly kiln]

ah great, lovely also crashes my game

so i have no way of modding the game

woohoo

[umbral pilot]

uhh, what's your install looking like?

[jolly kiln]

wdym

[cerulean herald]

same, used the site to download lethal company mods (and many more games mods)

[jolly kiln]

installing with the recommended code throws this error with steamodded

completely stock, unmodified elsewise, and no mods installed

[umbral pilot]

hmm, that's a bad patch

weird

[jolly kiln]

tried default proton, proton 9, and proton experimental, using 7-zip package from AUR

which provides 7zz

[umbral pilot]

ah, proton?

[cerulean herald]

feel free to send me a dm wren

[jolly kiln]

im on arch

[cerulean herald]

I helped someone install to steam deck earlier today

[umbral pilot]

you don't need 7z thankfully :-)

[cerulean herald]

gonna be a lot easier on native linux haha

[wanton rapids]

steam deck is native linux though?

[umbral pilot]

what worked?

dlloverride is likely required

[cerulean herald]

a couple command arguments to set it up

yep

other than that they were using proton

so it was just a matter of finding the proper commands for the terminal

[umbral pilot]

gotcha yeah, that's pretty on brand for wine

[cerulean herald]

cd to the directory then running the code to grab and run the loader

[jolly kiln]

everyone uses proton it came with your friggin steam install

/joke sorry

[cerulean herald]

it has a native linux port

haha

[jolly kiln]

wait it does?

[cerulean herald]

so no need for proton

[jolly kiln]

new?

[cerulean herald]

YEE BAYBEEE

I think its been out for a bit? Not 100 percent sure tho

[wanton rapids]

doesn't show it on steam

but it's in the works iirc

[cerulean herald]

oh wait

im dumb

lmao

[jolly kiln]

??

[umbral pilot]

you can likely fix it with proton tricks

[cerulean herald]

I misread something earlier

[jolly kiln]

lmao

[cerulean herald]

yeah just proton for now my bad haha

[jolly kiln]

happens

[cerulean herald]

i misread what it said on protondb

thought native support for linux was already there 🤦🏼‍♂️

[jolly kiln]

anyway how would you recommend installing steammodded

[wanton rapids]

does r2modman handle installing for games which require proton?

[cerulean herald]

mac support is out tho haha

so uh

[jolly kiln]

it can

[cerulean herald]

if ur a mac user 🤣

[umbral pilot]

that but sounds like it's partially working. could you grab the [e-mail] file from the game dir? submit it to this chat.

[jolly kiln]

lemme repatch

[umbral pilot]

also I'm oh mobile so no good euros type well

[cerulean herald]

yep, proton trick and the other wine handler loader app works very well for that

[jolly kiln]

i cleaninstalled

should i be on pub experimental?

[umbral pilot]

it shouldn't be required afaik

[cerulean herald]

grab 0.7.2 steammodded

[umbral pilot]

nothing about lovely is exotic

[jolly kiln]

...is there even anything in pub experimental lol

[umbral pilot]

oh wait lol now I can't eat

[cerulean herald]

proton 8 works

[umbral pilot]

read

[jolly kiln]

do you think thru lovely or

[umbral pilot]

run it again and send this file

[jolly kiln]

i dont have that file in game dir

im using the steamodded linux install script not lovely

[umbral pilot]

even after running it?

[jolly kiln]

i can switch to lovely tho hold on

[umbral pilot]

oh, wait you tried it with lovely though, right?

[cerulean herald]

do you have it in the game exe when you unpack it?

[umbral pilot]

delete your game executable and revalidate

[cerulean herald]

oh wait lovely doesnt do that huh

[jolly kiln]

not unpacking manually

so no

[cerulean herald]

u can use 7zip to open the archive

the exe is just an archive essentially

[jolly kiln]

ye i know how exes work

[umbral pilot]

[jolly kiln]

most of em are like that luckily

[cerulean herald]

lmao fair fair

[jolly kiln]

at least for this engine

[umbral pilot]

lovely dumps patched lua source into the game dir for debugging problems like this :-)

that's what I'm referring to fyi

[jolly kiln]

also all apps on macos iirc

very funny

[umbral pilot]

yup, a blessing and a curse

[umbral pilot]

reset your game, run lovely, send me the dumped lua files in the game dir. if they don't show up then it's a wine dll override problem.

[jolly kiln]

yep wine problem

[umbral pilot]

if they do then I'll be able to see where patching went wrong

[jolly kiln]

do i have protontricks installed...

do not

[umbral pilot]

afaik you can stick this in your run args for Balatro WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dwmapi.dll=n,b" %command%

that should work

[cerulean herald]

for steammodded it was this which is very common, prolly different for lovely WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dinput8.dll=n,b" %command%

[umbral pilot]

eyy we both clicked on the first good search result

[jolly kiln]

nop

no launch still

[cerulean herald]

haha yep, I helped that steam deck user yesterday too

they used that to get steamodded working 😉

[umbral pilot]

dwmapi is in the game dir as expected?

[jolly kiln]

correct

[cerulean herald]

maybe pack the games files up in a 7z

[jolly kiln]

i get a command prompt flash for like 5 frames and then nothing

[cerulean herald]

and send them over to run on another linux users machine or in windows through the linux sandbox?

[jolly kiln]

i think that that is against intellectual privacy laws :P

[cerulean herald]

I mean sure but we all own the game lol and it has slight drm

steam drm but still

not gonna open with a steam emu

and everyone here owns the game haha

not the first time its been done for troubleshooting

[jolly kiln]

i dunno (guarentee you its already out there too lol)

[cerulean herald]

it is lmao

but yeah, not illegal to share game files with another legit owner I dont think either? but if you want just send the modified files too instead of all game files

in a dm ofc

[jolly kiln]

it is technically

dumb

[cerulean herald]

?

[jolly kiln]

its technically illegal

[cerulean herald]

possibly? I mean making game backups isnt

idk about sharing the files though, haven't read through the laws on that in quite some time lmao

but again u can share just the modified files if ur worried about that lol

like main.lua and whatnot

instead of the whole folder

[jolly kiln]

ok done

r u joking

aughh

lemme just

try and make that folder

lol

[cerulean herald]

this is in arch yee?

[jolly kiln]

thats windows

[cerulean herald]

wait so are you trying to run this from windows or arch?

or are you just trying to install the modloader

through windows?

[jolly kiln]

i copied it over to my windows machine

for debugging

[cerulean herald]

oh, and ur trying to install using lovely right?

[jolly kiln]

ye

[cerulean herald]

I can easily help with windows w steamodded

[jolly kiln]

no its fine gimme a sec

[cerulean herald]

for lovely you'll have to ask @umbral pilot

[jolly kiln]

i know what the issue is and its very dumb

[cerulean herald]

haha okay

av blocking it?

[jolly kiln]

its not creating that folder

[cerulean herald]

from modifying in memory?

[jolly kiln]

no its so much dumber

[cerulean herald]

oh permissions?

[jolly kiln]

no

even dumber

it just

[cerulean herald]

read/write to create the folder?

[jolly kiln]

isnt making the /mods/ folder

[cerulean herald]

what the ahaha

[jolly kiln]

inside the simulated appdata

[cerulean herald]

wait you dont need that though necessarily at first

you make that yourself after

all you need is the modified exe to boot

at least for steamodded

i think lovely should be the same

[jolly kiln]

well thats what the error is saying with the loader

[cerulean herald]

since it's just loadin steamodded from memory

oh yeah

u right u right

[jolly kiln]

no i didnt install steamodded

[cosmic shell]

for linux you need to add WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dwmapi=n,b" %command% to the launch for lovely to work btw (i use linux)

[jolly kiln]

yep that was it lmao

[jolly kiln]

did that

it didnt make the /mods/ folder inside the simulated appdata

[cosmic shell]

I saw the thing given had ".dll" on the end which is incorrect

[cerulean herald]

AHH

yeah it does read from balatro/mods to load the patches

[jolly kiln]

that wasnt the issue anyway

yep

thats why

[cerulean herald]

first time i looked at lovelys readme

[cerulean herald]

huh

you're trying to run it in windows currently tho yeah?

[jolly kiln]

nop

launches on linux now

[cerulean herald]

OH

NICE!

so what was the issue then?

[jolly kiln]

in the proton container %appdata%/roaming/balatro/mods not existing threw a error

[cerulean herald]

oh so that was the issue

it not having the mods folder in appdata/balatro

MONKA

[jolly kiln]

yep

[cerulean herald]

haha nice, glad ya got it sorted and quite quickly too 👍🏼

[jolly kiln]

ok cool

now to install mods

[cerulean herald]

next time someone asks what their issue is on linux/arch

I'll refer them to your message

[jolly kiln]

yes so

the 'fix' would be lovely making the mods folder

[molten lily]

Funny how this is problem occurs way too often when dealing with mod loaders Though bad error messages are partly to blame sometimes

[cerulean herald]

having dll at the end seemed to work for other linux distros like steamos

[jolly kiln]

steamos is arch

[cerulean herald]

maybe its unneccesary tho

[dapper nacelle]

Creating the mod folder yourself in the %AppData% folder fix it everytime right ?

[jolly kiln]

yes

[cerulean herald]

OH didnt know that!

[jolly kiln]

you can run ``mkdir ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2379780/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/Balatro/Mods`

and it will make the directory

[cerulean herald]

for arch using Lovely injector yeah

[jolly kiln]

that folder is always the same

[jolly kiln]

same error happens on windows

you have to make the mod folder

[dapper nacelle]

yh yh ok make sense

[jolly kiln]

otherwise lovely will not load

[cerulean herald]

AH okay interesting. Maybe the devs didnt encounter that issue bc they already had the folder

both steamo and @umbral pilot

[jolly kiln]

will make a issue on the github

how do i know its loaded without mods btw

[cerulean herald]

I figured it was an issue with arch trying to create that folder, but that it would work in native windows. Good to know that it's an issue there too, can likely be patched ASAP

you're likely one of the first users of lovely injector atm haha

beta testing for the community

[cerulean herald]

check the top right

[jolly kiln]

i always run modloaders without any mods loaded first in case theres config stuffs

[cerulean herald]

when you get to the main menu

usually theres an icon for both steamodded and balamod, lovely should likely be similar

[umbral pilot]

LOL

[cerulean herald]

if not just download a quick test mod I'd say

[jolly kiln]

?

oh i didnt install it correctly

[umbral pilot]

thanks wren

[jolly kiln]

very funny error

[umbral pilot]

I appreciate you testing this out

[jolly kiln]

np np

[cerulean herald]

@umbral pilot does lovely have added text in the top right at the main menu similar to steamodded or balamod to show it's installed/patched?

[umbral pilot]

yeah that's a hilarious oversight

[cerulean herald]

like steamoddded and bala?

[jolly kiln]

i made an issue so you get the dopamine high of closing one :3

[umbral pilot]

although technically lovely is useless without a modloader, of which needs to be installed into Mods/ to work

[jolly kiln]

well yes

but

[umbral pilot]

I'LL fix it

[jolly kiln]

it, imo, should still be able to load

[umbral pilot]

mm, I think not

it should throw an absolute red herring of an error message and proceed to nuke the game

[jolly kiln]

true exactly

it should tell you to like

wait wait wait

genius idea

[cerulean herald]

this sounds like a dark joke in my head LOLOL 🤣

[jolly kiln]

it should open 5 cmd windows with sleep(1);print"contact me on discord";exit

[umbral pilot]

just fucking fork bomb the user

[grand geode]

remember when i said i only need two balatro .exes with lovely? i was wrong

[umbral pilot]

[jolly kiln]

perfect

[cerulean herald]

damnit wheres nitro where I need it, i need a monka emote

[grand geode]

lovely always pulls from C:\Users\[user]\AppData\Roaming\Balatro and my steamodded is in C:\Users\[user]\AppData\Roaming\BalatroModded....

[wanton rapids]

yeah same

[cerulean herald]

balamonka

balapepehands

[jolly kiln]

dont call them defects bro!

hm

@umbral pilot

is this the correct format for the modded files?

ok it is Not Loaded

[umbral pilot]

move those dirs + the patch file into the Steamodded subdirectory

Lovely by design only loads patches from subdirectories within AppData/Balatro/Mods.

[jolly kiln]

gotcha ok

yay there we go!

thank u'

[umbral pilot]

so to summarize: your linux problem was solved with the WINEDLLOVERRIDE var and by creating the mods directory, right?

[jolly kiln]

uh

works fine without the dll override actually

[umbral pilot]

even better

[jolly kiln]

if you need other linux testing lmk

[silk viper]

how are cards like chariot, empress, and justice written in the code? i can't find a definition for them in card.lua

[grand geode]

it should be in

function Card:use_comsumeable()
  ...
  if self.ability.consumeable.mod_conv or self.ability.consumeable.suit_conv then
    ...
end

[wanton rapids]

glitterbomb art

[grand geode]

now we need glitter bomb 2.0 to 6.0

[cosmic shell]

looks like it's implemented generally via setting values in the center's config field in game.lua. for example chariot has mod_conv="m_steel" for steel, and max_highlighted=1 for a max of 1 card.

[rare shell]

https://tenor.com/view/santa-claus-pipe-bomb-heres-a-pipe-bomb-christmas-gift-meme-gif-24076841

[silk viper]

na im tryna figure out like how it actually functions

[cosmic shell]

yeah, it references that data in card.lua on line 1091 to change the enhancement.

[cerulean herald]

Yeah it's pretty straightforward, refs the games code then adds or replaces with your own code instead (or u can completely overwrite the games code if you really need to do that using a certain function, but I think that being necessary is very rare and would more often then not cause a lot of problems lol) @silk viper you asked something similar earlier and me, uwudev and I think 1 or 2 others gave u an answer, so perhaps go check back to see what you might have missed

#⚙・modding-general message and #⚙・modding-general message

[hexed surge]

https://tenor.com/view/santa-believer-gif-24022352

[wanton rapids]

common x1.2 joker?

[lean dune]

but who's paul

[wanton rapids]

that is the question

[hexed surge]

fr who is paul

[hexed surge]

em can somebody explain what just happend

lol

the seed is epic too

i set ante_scaling at 0 and every blind is 0 chips

[compact iris]

sounds like ante_scaling expects to be 1 or higher, I bet a value between 0 and 1 would be interesting if possible

[hexed surge]

i set ante_scaling at 0 and every blind have 0 chips

16/1

[compact iris]

yes I understand, setting it to 0 probably multiplied the whole formula by 0 which would set everything to 0

but a value between 0 & 1 might make the ante scale down instead of up, or something else interesting

[hexed surge]

oh

ok

[white scarab]

Try changing the seed to something invalid

Any string works fine, actually

[hexed surge]

im duplicating the ace of hearts for fun

[white scarab]

Did this once during the demo

It works completely fine

[cerulean herald]

Some real sickos in here... 🤣 👀😆

[hexed surge]

bro putted random numbers

hehe funnie

hehe ante 1/57 is crazy

[cerulean herald]

1.2 mult common jokers. 1000 aces of hearts, what will the madlads do next

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