⚙・modding-general

[tacit mountain]

I did not saw anything for Mod support inside the code

[cerulean herald]

Really damn good art for the vouchers frfr esp with the shiny/glossy surface texture

[cerulean herald]

Ah maybe I'm mistaken, I only unpacked the game and looked through the fikes after I added steamodded

Thought it might be native support in game.lua or main.lua, maybe global (forget which one it was)

But it must've been steamodded haha

[tacit mountain]

That might be Steamodded code

[cerulean herald]

Yeah that makes sense your prolly right. I'll double check later the original unpacked vs steamodded, but ur almost certainly right and it's steamodded code

Btw are achievements not enabled by default? Like steam achievements

I saw that there's a mod and code in steamodded to enable it

[tacit mountain]

With steamodded it's disabled, but you have a mod to enable them back

It was decided by the community to disable them by default

[cerulean herald]

AHHH

That makes sense

[tacit mountain]

Same, crash reports upload to game dev are disabled

To avoid spamming mods error

[cerulean herald]

Makes sense lmao. I had to reenabled that earlier to diagnose an issue with a keyboard shortcut mod

I was trying to modify milcks qol mod and add a run info button

[tacit mountain]

Fo your "Alternate PC" version ?

[cerulean herald]

Kept getting an error saying local run_info_button couldn't be found

[cerulean herald]

Alternate PC?

Oh I think I knoe what ur referring to hshs

Nah just native pc

[tacit mountain]

Yeah you know what I mean lol

[cerulean herald]

Lemme show you what I was getting, maybe you'll have an idea from a glance

#1212796137325465651 message

It's my messages in there

They should be the newest one and include screenshots

Of my code and the error I was getting

I just added that code to his qol mod

[tacit mountain]

Does the mod use an INIT function from Steamodded ?

If not it might be the issue

[tribal rover]

How do you extract card pngs from the game?

[cerulean herald]

So if you look at the code for the stock mod from milck

Woops sorry here

https://github.com/Mi1cK/Milcks-QOL/blob/main/milckqol.lua

I think everything else worked

It doesn't call init I don't think

But all milcks keybinds worked

[hardy brook]

Yo, you see my response to your deck thing?

[cerulean herald]

Just mine wasn't for some reason bc of that one error, seemed to be missing a reference to run_info_button even though there's a reference for that in the code

In ui_definitions.lua I think

[cerulean herald]

I haven't yet lemme see

[tribal rover]

Is their a guide for asset extracting already on the discord?

[cerulean herald]

this is my modifed version @tacit mountain

[hardy brook]

Open exe in 7zip

[tribal rover]

You mean balatro.exe?

[hardy brook]

Yes

[tribal rover]

Ahhh

[cerulean herald]

the main thing I added to the mod is just this:
elseif keys_to_ui[key] == "run_info" then local run_info_button = G.buttons:get_UIE_by_ID('run_info_button') if run_info_button.config.button == 'b_run_info_1' then G.FUNCS.run_info()

[trim finch]

Fixed this, working on adding the rest of the buttons

[cerulean herald]

YOOO MILK

MY BRUDDER

THANK YOU SO MUCH

[trim finch]

local run_info_button = G.HUD:get_UIE_by_ID('run_info_button') if run_info_button.config.button == 'run_info' then G.FUNCS.run_info() end

[cerulean herald]

what was the issue?!

[trim finch]

it's in the Hud not the buttons

so it was turning up nil when it searched for the run_info_button id

[cerulean herald]

thats crazy 😭

haha appreciate it @trim finch

your mod is one of the main reasons I really wanted to mod balatro

I needed kb controls

didnt wanna mouse over everything so it makes it a lot easier to play now

now I just need the slutty joker pack

and joker/arsene from p5r joker

and IM SET BAYBEE

@trim finch can you share the updated file please? 🙏🏼 or I can just add that code to the lua under Hud right?

[trim finch]

https://github.com/Mi1cK/Milcks-QOL/releases/tag/v0.0.2

[cerulean herald]

I also tried replacing run_info with b_run_info_1thinking that was the issue lmao. That makes sense, it was just the wrong class I was calling on line 1 G.HUD instead of G.BUTTON 🥲

You're very appreciated @trim finch ! Small mods like this make all the difference in gameplay and QOL!

[molten lily]

We'll add the game into r2 at the same time as to Thunderstore (well actually r2 releases are not made by us, but ebkr usually makes the release within a week or two of us adding a game there (when lethal company was added I think ebkr was on some vacation or something, which then lead to r2 release getting delayed a bit)).

About the progress: In the past 5 hours we've gotten pretty far and will soon try starting the game with mods.

About the features: Yea, basically Balatro in r2/TS would have all the same mod management features as other games. Dependencies, enabling/disabling, profiles and profile sharing, modpacks and so on..

Someone mentioned that there were two mod loaders? Steammodded is one, but what was the other one?

[hushed furnace]

#1213838204491399218

[cerulean herald]

Balamod is the other

[molten lily]

Oh nice

lol

I'm just blind

[cerulean herald]

It's not as widely used just yet as it just came out of the "GitHub Abyss" as @stable crag told me 🤣 but more mods are being made for it now with some really cool features

Currently it mainly has 2-3 test mods I believe, but mod makers will likely make mods for it very soon, so a profile to switch between the balamod version and steamodded versions would be huge in r2/thunderstore!

Currently they don't play together well at the same timd

But that might change in the future if both modloader devs work it out

[molten lily]

Hmm, well I don't see any hard blockers on adding support for both mod loaders. It's kind of the same situation as with some people using melon loader and others using bepinex for certain games AFAIK.

[cerulean herald]

The two authors are Steamo and uwudev who I @ in my last message

[cerulean herald]

Oh yeah that was a thing for lethal kinda too huh?

I mainly used bepinex, but now that I think about it 1 or 2 mods i used needed lethal API and maybe melon too

[molten lily]

We've now used Steamoddeds loader and core luas and we'll use that first, but what we do is just inject all of the custom lua (loaders, mods, etc) to the process between "Engine has loaded" <-> "Game initialization". Sooo yeah, no problem to add support for both. Basically each Steamodded and Balamod will need their own package in Thunderstore, which we'll help in adding if need be

[cerulean herald]

That would be so much easier for so many people

[molten lily]

Yeah at least at the beginning. I think it was mostly because there were two "bigger party" mods, one with bepinex and one with melonloader. But then I think the other one also switched to bepinex

[cerulean herald]

I've seen a lot of people in here recently (just joined this server myself like yesterday haha), and on reddit, asking for help installing both modloaders 🥲

[molten lily]

Yeah! Also the nice thing is that it should keep the game files itself the same, regardless if mods are installed.

[cerulean herald]

Oh right, the lobby mods

One was considered more stable

[strong swift]

yeah for whatever reason i cant get steamodded to work on my computer, thunderstore would help so much with that

[cerulean herald]

At least at a certain point in time

Yeah bepinex became like the main loader from what I saw, with some more extensive mods like helmet cams sometimes using lethal API, but even that one went full bepinex at some point!

[cerulean herald]

I've helped a lot of people with that, PM me and I'll help ya out. Usually it's AV blocking it or a lot of times people drag the desktop icon to the steamodded injector instead of the actual balatro.exe file

[strong swift]

nope, it's neither of those

i'm getting "this app can't run on your pc"

[cerulean herald]

Are u on windows 10?

And at least 20h2 build?

[strong swift]

no, i got my pc recently enough that i was forced into win 11 and it's too late to change

[cerulean herald]

And you're not double clicking the steamodded loader to run it right?

[strong swift]

no

[cerulean herald]

Ahhh I see. Could be a win 11 issue but it should still work usually. PM me I'll get you sorted out fast, and then when r2/thunderstore support drops you can use that 🙂

Don't wanna clutter this place with all the support messages haha

[strong swift]

tyty

[cerulean herald]

Yes this is huge! Currently I have one folder for balamod and one for steamodded 😆

Most stuff is steamodded right now Anyways but I still wanted to have access to balamod for testing and when new mods drop very soon

[thin pilot]

hello, I personally dont plan on making mods because I'm too dumb for it, I was curious if there was anyone working on a mod to turn off jokers from the shop

the more I unlock it's like other roguelike/lite games where it just makes it more difficult the more I unlock while the shop itself doesnt get bigger or increase chances on its own lol

[lean dune]

jokerless challenge exists

i would assume making that into a deck effect is literally setting a value to 0

[hardy brook]

I’m converting jokerless into a deck down the line

[thin pilot]

thats not quite what I mean I'm sorry

I mean like, turning off jokers from appearing

like the first 5 jokers, the +4 mult or the +4 mult per scored suited card

with like 130 or so jokers I have unlocked now

[lean dune]

ah

[thin pilot]

it's honestly exhausting to see some of the older ones lol

[lean dune]

still should be manageable to just remove them from the pool

[thin pilot]

it's a problem a lot of rogue lites/likes suffer from, the bigger you make the pool of unlocks the more random it gets

[thin pilot]

I assume you mean as a mod, that's not a built in feature is it?

[lean dune]

yep

[thin pilot]

because I also dont want to like, tailor craft a specific set of 10 jokers to show up every time either, I just want to turn off otherwise middling ones

but if it's a pool related thing, my husband knows a good bit about lua

maybe he can poke around at it, I didnt see anything like that in the mods yet

[lean dune]

for what it's worth, I haven't looked all that deep into jokers yet, I've mostly been focusing on my playing card stuff

[molten lily]

A small update; we've got the lua and mod injection working pretty okay. Next up we'll mangle it to work with Thunderstore filesystem stuff and then we should be golden

What needs to happen from the existing mod loader repos devs is to; put the following(ish) files to a package and upload it to Thunderstore:

Balamod
https://github.com/UwUDev/balamod/tree/master/src/luas

Steamodded
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/tree/main/loader
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/tree/main/core
(https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/blob/main/debug/debug.lua)

I'm not sure what the package structure and format will exactly be yet (like if there are folders and what the file names should be), but I'll let the devs know/help when I know more

Oh and the injection tool will be open source so that devs can see how and when it does stuff

[stable crag]

finally 0.1.9 https://github.com/UwUDev/balamod/releases/tag/v0.1.9

[umbral pilot]

Here's my injector: https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector

Completely in memory, no executable patching required.

[hardy brook]

Uh....

[strong swift]

i think thats a false positive for the most part, i use it all the time for lethal company

besides, you can still use regular modloaders

[hardy brook]

I'm sticking with the normal steamodded

[umbral pilot]

yeah, that's fair, which is why we also maintain r2modman. the two managers are generally 1:1, but TMM has a nicer coat of paint.

and it has no ads

[hardy brook]

why i am getting very "Sponsorship" vibes

[umbral pilot]

I work there lol

[strong swift]

tbh i don't really care about overwolf being spyware. if it works it works tbh

[hardy brook]

lol

[strong swift]

but thats just me

[haughty hinge]

i wanted to make something where you'd put a score in and see what round/ante you can go to with that as a final score

[white scarab]

So this is the code for the ante base scores in endless

[haughty hinge]

goddamit i can't decipher these ancient hieroglyphics

[white scarab]

let me turn this into an equation

k=0.75 btw

[haughty hinge]

oh thank u

that's all i needed lol

[white scarab]

so this is what the formula turns into

[haughty hinge]

is the output the score for the boss blind of said ante

[white scarab]

or like this to be a little neater (A_E = number of endless antes)

[white scarab]

small blind

[haughty hinge]

ah

got it

[white scarab]

and then it's rounded down to 3 decimal places I think

[haughty hinge]

wait put ante 40 in the equation lmao

[white scarab]

it predicts the last ante as 39, which is correct (Desmos and LOVE use the same limit)

[haughty hinge]

gimme link

[white scarab]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/owmmxyaykj

[haughty hinge]

thank

[hardy brook]

what the heck is this? Pokemon stats?

[magic sandal]

I wonder if you can just use a different graphing calculator with maybe a higher number limit

[white scarab]

base blind values for each ante in endless

[hardy brook]

oh

I'd love to see someone try to hit ante 8 with the extreme deck though

I can get to ante 2

[jovial escarp]

hypothetically speaking

if i wanted to make a simple mod where i just start with a negative joker of my selection

would it be hard

[jovial notch]

can someone help me even find out how to mod in the first place

[jovial escarp]

learn lua

[jovial notch]

?

[jovial escarp]

the programming language

[charred helm]

Is there any way to select a starting joker?

[jovial notch]

that unsuprisingly does not help

i just wanna play a mod i dont wanna make one yet :(

[jovial escarp]

if u wanna play theres mods

see what u like

its not hard to install a modloader

not hard to swap assets and textures around

[jovial notch]

you are saying its not hard for thinks i dont know how to do

[hardy brook]

Is there a list of every joker for challenge mods?

[jovial notch]

it might be easy but i have no knowledge of how to do it in the first place

where do i install a mod loader? how do i use said mod loader? which modloader should i install if there is more than one (which it sounds like there is)

[charred helm]

What do you mean

Modded jokers or just base jokers?

[charred helm]

Try Steamodded

[jovial notch]

ok call me an idiot but whats that

[hardy brook]

base jokers

[jovial notch]

website?

[charred helm]

Yeah, look up Jokers in Balatro Wiki

[hardy brook]

But a list that I can use for making a mod for Challenges

because i'm seeing like "j_burglar" for example

[charred helm]

They should be in game.lua line 367

[charred helm]

Search Steamodded in the search box of this discord server top right

[hardy brook]

Thank you

I'm working on recreating Jimboless and Jimbo only from MurphyObv's Wheelatro as a deck

Thinking of locking a deck to make it impossible to unlock and you can use it in my custom challenges (just like the actual challenge deck

[jovial notch]

ok so i may be an stupid but i found it on github now what do i do :>

[charred helm]

https://i.imgur.com/QpFVa62.png

[jovial notch]

im blind

thank you so much

just checking, it doesnt affect achievments right?

or collection?

[hardy brook]

This is my current screen, it's crazy

[jovial escarp]

does anyone know how jokers work?

i'm staring at this piece of code but i have to reference frame

                    "ability": {
                        "t_mult": 0,
                        "extra_value": 0,
                        "bonus": 0,
                        "t_chips": 0,
                        "h_x_mult": 0,
                        "name": "Splash",
                        "mult": 0,
                        "order": 52,
                        "h_dollars": 0,
                        "p_dollars": 0,
                        "d_size": 0,
                        "h_mult": 0,
                        "x_mult": 1,
                        "hands_played_at_create": 3,
                        "h_size": 0,
                        "perma_bonus": 0,
                        "type": "",
                        "set": "Joker"
                    },```

im specifically interested in what 'type' can be and what ids the jokers have

as long as i have that information im good

[umbral pilot]

ultrawides are amazing lmao

[hardy brook]

I'm on two screens, I'd have a third one if i can connect it to my PC

[umbral pilot]

what's stopping you?

more the merrier

[jovial escarp]

i think im just gonna make the id something wonky and see how the game reacts

[hardy brook]

My PC’s limit

And the amount of room on my desk

[hardy brook]

But yeah. I’m using the list i made MurphyOBV mixed with the wiki to make Jimbonly and Jimboless

[umbral pilot]

floor monitor

[molten lily]

Stacking two ultrawides is the way

[molten lily]

Then you'll more or less have a 4:3

[jovial escarp]

there we go

i've figured out how to edit my save file for this handsome boy

now i just need to figure out how to inject that save data into every run

[charred helm]

Lmk

[hardy brook]

Jimbo and Jimboless is added to my modpack

[clever rampart]

where in the game's code is the code for the checkered deck

[stable crag]

back.lua line 239

[clever rampart]

oh! thank you

as for abandoned?

[strong swift]

just ctrl f

[clever rampart]

I'm not searching and opening several files

[strong swift]

its on the same back.lua

[clever rampart]

I wanted to see how it removes the face card

and then use it's effect on a different way

[stable crag]

I use ripgrep to search text in the current folder and subfolders

If you use any jetbrains IDE press CRTL + SHIFT + F

Gl now

[clever rampart]

essentially what i want my deck to do is to outright remove all starting cards with ranks higher than (number)

[jovial escarp]

how does one edit starting jokers

i wanna make a deck ideally

[barren mist]

do achievements get disabled when u play modded?

[charred helm]

Try balamods devtools

[limber cairn]

I didnt know Balatro had a modding scene already, cool

[clever rampart]

if i move over to using balamod will i need to get rid of steamodded

[umbral pilot]

just implemented a very unreliable config-file interface for lovely (https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector). basically means you can inject lua files into the game at runtime without needing to recompile anything.
I'm currently using this config to inject Steamodded: ```toml
[manifest]
version = "1.0.0"
dump_lua = true
priority = 0

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "@game.lua"
pattern = "self.SPEEDFACTOR = 1"
position = "after"
payload = "initSteamodded()"
match_indent = true
overwrite = false

[[patches]]
[patches.copy]
target = "@main.lua"
position = "append"
sources = [
"core/core.lua",
"core/deck.lua",
"core/joker.lua",
"core/sprite.lua",
"debug/debug.lua",
"loader/loader.lua",
]

the format is still super jank but it's promising

ooh, it might be cool to implement git diff / patch support

[clever rampart]

can one of the effects be a hand size related effect, and if so, how

[tacit mountain]

#1209564621644505158 message

[tacit mountain]

If you can give me a short explanation on how to use it, I will refer to it in Steamodded github. Even if I released a new Injector, I'm still open to better options.

[silk viper]

how hard would it be to add a squared operator to a card?

[stable crag]

Nope, at least I didn't disabled them on balamod
I don't think it's disabled on steamo too but check the source code

[lean dune]

on steamodded, they're disabled by default but you can re-enable them

[rare shell]

hiya, just found out about the modded scene today, is their documentation of the code yet, or has everything just been reverse engineering from example mods and what not?

[lean dune]

you can get access to the game code by extracting the game executable with 7-zip or the like

[rare shell]

love is a magic engine

[lean dune]

it is

[rare shell]

actually baffled you can do that, but then again ive never dabbled in modding with lua based stuff

cheefs

[grand geode]

it's disabled on steamodded

better like that so people don't accidentally fuck something up and unlocks every achievement

[rare shell]

are stone cards refered to as base.id 14?

[lean dune]

no, that's aces

[rare shell]

huh, what's id 1 then?

[lean dune]

nothing

stone cards get a random negative value

[empty brook]

is it possible to mod in new legendary jokers, or is that not feasible rn

[lean dune]

not any more or less than any other kind of jokers

[empty brook]

gotcha! yeah i wasn't sure if they'd be like. Weird? since their whole unique way of getting them and all

[rare shell]

figured it out

[wispy cape]

what the hell i didn't know [[x]] was valid TOML

[silk viper]

is the the right section to change the card rates in the shop?

[rare shell]

actually, a better question is what is the formatting for having chips be added to a card?

                if self.ability.name == 'Expanded Art Joker' then
                    return {
                        chip_mod = self.ability.extra,
                        card = self,
                        message = localize { type = 'variable', key = 'a_chips', vars = { self.ability.extra } },
                    }
                end```
am i missing something here?

joker in question has a config of config = { extra = 25, },

[fresh prairie]

Imagine make custom mod that all jokers are negative

[cerulean herald]

My guess is similarly to slay the spire and other games turning off cards will likely be added as a feature later down the line in a future update too. It would be nice to have a mod for it tho too in the meantime

[cerulean herald]

LETS GOOOOO, THUNDERSTORE/R2MODMAN SUPPORT FOR BALATRO BAYBEEE

This is gonna be huge for so many users who have had issues installing the modloaders or aren't as tech savvy and don't want to learn how to install them manually

PLUS it'll be easily findable on Google/search engines, so more people will use the mods/modloaders and the modding scene will continue to grow even larger ⚙️ 🙌🏼

[cerulean herald]

WOOO! 🙌🏼

[cerulean herald]

Ohhh whoa a new modloader that injects JIT? 👀 Wonder if that would help avoid some of the defender/AV false positives possibly. Then again cheat engine also flags as a false positive haha

[cerulean herald]

Thunderstore has been known to be relatively safe overall, but yeah the issue is overwolf which does collect data. It's just a reskin of r2modman essentially. I personally prefer to use r2modman when I can, but if you post something to thunderstore it should post to r2modman I believe and vice versa

[cerulean herald]

Yeah it's nice to have both options. I personally will probably use r2modman myself, but every option is good to have, esp if you all are adding support for Balatro to r2modman/thunderstore. It'll likely become the most used way to install mods until workshop support is added, and I like that balamod and steamodded are both supported

[cerulean herald]

From what I understand, it supposedly collects anonymized data from users. It doesn't sell user data (at least that hasn't been shown as far as I know). It's more just unnecessary telemetry if anything which is why I and many others prefer r2modman, but overall it should be safe. It's really more bloatware not spyware lol

[stable crag]

He he

[cerulean herald]

Steamodded does be default. There's a mod to enable that on the awesome Balatro github

[cerulean herald]

They don't play together nicely just yet. What I do is have two folders for Balatro, one with balamod and one with steamodded, then I just launch from the exe files. Make sure to use a clean (unmodified) balatro.exe file before installing either modloader. You can verify the files on steam to get it back to its unmodified state

[cerulean herald]

Someone else answered this earlier today/yesterday I think. You can also check to see if it's in one of the guides or just look through the game files a bit more

[fresh prairie]

I can't even install it cause Window defender

[rare shell]

just make an exception for it

[fresh prairie]

Blocked in the downloading part

[stable crag]

Achievement works on balamod, I was able to claim achievements

[rare shell]

depending on your browser you should be able to click to confirm you want to download it

[cerulean herald]

I can help with that

[lean dune]

use a different browser

chrome likes to block stuff very strictly

[fresh prairie]

Tbh, I just wait until official mod support

[empty brook]

so i think i'm like, not getting something. i'm working on a joker, and the intended effect is meant to be: When you play a Pair, retrigger each played card.

right now, what it does is that when i play a Pair, it retriggers every card in my hand. as in like, not the hand i played, but the hand i didn't play (so steel cards, raised fist, etc.)

this is really close to what i want, if i can only fix it so that it's retriggering the cards it's supposed to, instead of literally every other card

[cerulean herald]

Yeah defender/firewall blocks it from running. PM me, I've helped a bunch of others with installing it at this point esp with defender blocking it

[stable crag]

Yeah it's an unsigned exe, you can just ignore windows defender alert

[cerulean herald]

Sure up to you!

[lean dune]

or if you don't trust, you can always build it from source yourself

[cerulean herald]

esp since the recent updates. Now it blocks almost everything unless you okay it lmao

[stable crag]

Disable windows defender and re-enable it after patching the game, I'll try to sign the exe with GitHub actions for the next releases

[cerulean herald]

You also need to turn off smartscreen temporarily and I think 1 more thing in defender

You can use defender control to temporarily disable defender too

More easily

[stable crag]

Yes, you just need cargo and the command is cargo run -- -a
It will just make the injection and not an optimised exe, so you can just delete the git cloned after

[cerulean herald]

https://github.com/qtkite/defender-control

After that, just need to allow the exe through the firewall so it can grab 7zip through the internet

You can renable defender after modifying the exe file

[cerulean herald]

Exactly, all the code is openly available to be looked through and checked

If it did anything remotely malicious the community would be well aware haha. But I think the bigger thing is a lot of people just get lazy and don't want to take extra steps to install mods support sadly

Luckily r2modman/thunderstore support is here now pretty much

So people won't have to do that anymore in like a day or two, if that

Just click "install steamodded/balamod" in r2modman and bam, done

Defender is also kinda a PITA to disable so I personally use Kaspersky so I can pause protection more easily when doing stuff like this (it has a button to pause protection with one click). Defender gets disabled when another AV is installed since it would be redundant

Any other good AV that's low on resource usage and not full of ads could also be recommended. It's not as necessary these days bc defender and a good adblocker like ublock is all you need really with modern security features, but just being able to easily pause protection makes it worth it

[empty brook]

managed to get this working nvm

[grand geode]

@spare hemlock

[spare hemlock]

YES, YES, YES!

[winter hearth]

Hi there, really loved the game, and I want to make/participate in development of overlay-app, that will read the data (current cards in deck/on hand, jokers, boss-blind modifier etc.) from running game and let player to see the probability of getting each combination after discard, seeing the amount of chips earned for hand (for jokers with non-100% chances display min-max situation) and so on.
But I don't really know a lot about lua and Love2D engine (have a 5+ years experience in other languages). Is it even possible to do it?

[grand geode]

should be possible since it's easy to read everything

[spare hemlock]

When I get home I am making (and DMing) you the joker ASAP

Which will be more or less 2 and a half hours until I get there, but I will

[grand geode]

considering bumping it to -4 or -5 mm

[winter hearth]

Can you suggest any literature to search for that can help me? It would be great

Cause i search a bit about engine and asked gpt, but didn't find anything

[grand geode]

there aren't many documentations yet considering modding is still relatively new mm

[exotic dagger]

that joker already looks hardly worth it with -3

[grand geode]

gambling addiction tho

[empty brook]

it looks really funny

i will download this mod literally instantly once it's out

[silk viper]

what do consumeable_buffer and joker_buffer do in game.lua?

[umbral pilot]

yus, I got this working yesterday hehe

[winter hearth]

Yea, but i see how people add some cards or change settings for decks. Didn't see anything that reads the data from game

[grand geode]

modding is actually mostly pure lua so it should be relatively simple(?)

[grand geode]

oh you can just straight up read the variable anywhere

actually no

mm

[winter hearth]

That's the one problem i see, yes

[grand geode]

yeah you can read every joker and highlighted card anywhere methinks

they're global

[jagged bloom]

Me thinks 🤔

[winter hearth]

I think it I think it is stored in the save file, but I can’t find it in the game directory, only scripts and one file with the extension .jkr

I saw the cards={} and jokers={} properties in some scripts, but they are empty

[grand geode]

you just straight up pull from the game variables

[cerulean herald]

big brain plays

[winter hearth]

Ok thanks, I'll look for how to do this

[grand geode]

like jokers you have are in the table (array) G.jokers.cards

[winter hearth]

Maybe even make a bot that will be playing on itself

[cerulean herald]

If you extract the game exe file, you'll see all the lua files which you can open in a notepad or text editor of choice

[grand geode]

riffraff

technically doable

[cerulean herald]

then you can look through all the variables to find what you're trying to modify

I think theres also some light guides out

in here: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209506514763522108

Nothing too extensive yet

but it has the basics

[winter hearth]

Yea i know, but i didn't see anything about my save. All decks and everything is closed

[cerulean herald]

this is found in the lua files i believe in the game

[cerulean herald]

your save file?

What are you trying to pull/read from there?

I might have missed that part

[grand geode]

if you're doing it during play then i don't see why you'd want to pull from save

[winter hearth]

Sorry, maybe im thinking wrong, like i said, lua and love2d are new to me, i don't know exactly how it works there

[cerulean herald]

most mods are based off of the lua files I believe

I havent seen one read from the save yet I dont think

except maybe a safe profile editor

but that doesnt really read them i believe

[winter hearth]

Ok my bad then

[cerulean herald]

it more like makes different profiles so you can have more than 3 saves

nah this is why this discord is here for haha

what are you trying to find again?

the joker variables?

[rare shell]

i looked through the posts made by itsmythie earlier today, while also cross checking things such as odd todd, but i'm still getting crashes unfortunately

[cerulean herald]

most of the data for cards is in that one lua

let me see if I can find the name real quick

[rare shell]

card.lua aye?

[winter hearth]

Everything that going on in the game, cards in decks, their mods, jokers, etc.

[cerulean herald]

I think so yeah

all cards are in card.lua yep!

there we go

other variables are in other lua files

for example half joker

[winter hearth]

All the cards like in your current deck or what?

[rare shell]

yeah, like i said, i've been trying to cross reference it with a joker that would be on played, like odd todd, but im getting errors thrown at me

ill try to snatch the error in a sec

[cerulean herald]

actually sorry

not card.lua i dont think

[grand geode]

the effects are in card.lua

[cerulean herald]

if youre looking for like chip amount and multipliers/effects for the cards

oh it is?

maybe I missed it

[grand geode]

the variables (chips amount, etc.) are in game.lua

[cerulean herald]

ah yeah I did

there we go

[winter hearth]

As i said in my idea message, i need my overlay to parse the current deck im playing and everything too, so i can calculate probabilities etc.

[cerulean herald]

you mean your current deck during a run yeah?

[winter hearth]

Yes

[grand geode]

yea you can just straight up read your full deck lol

[rare shell]

i'm just looking for a simple "gives +X chips when Y happens" and i already got Y, but trying to plug in odd todd's code like so

                if self.ability.name == 'Expanded Art Joker' and context.other_card.ability.set == 'Enhanced' then
                    return {
                        chips = self.ability.extra,
                        card = self
                    }
                end```
i keep getting an error about performing arithmetic on "chips", do i just have my formatting on my original joker wrong somehow?

[winter hearth]

if so, that's great

[grand geode]

have you defined config = { extra = [some value] } while defining the joker?

[rare shell]

as { chips = 25 } aye

[grand geode]

then it would be self.ability.chips

not self.ability.extra

ah wait

if it's extra = { chips = 25 } then it's self.ability.extra.chips

mb

[rare shell]

i was just reading the message to you saying that earlier today wew

i am tired

ill try that out and see if it works

well its not crashing but it didnt seem to add the chips

[grand geode]

hmst

oh yeah i see why

[cerulean herald]

appreciate the hard work on your mod making brudder

[rare shell]

i am an absolute novice when it comes to lua and my coding is atrocious but i appreciate yall putting up with my questions

[grand geode]

try context.other_card.config.center ~= G.P_CENTERS.c_base instead of context.other_card.ability.set == 'Enhanced'?

[cerulean herald]

the community here is really nice and helpful

[grand geode]

former taken from Vampire, which checks for Enhancements

[cerulean herald]

got a lot of respect for all the mod makers/devs here

[rare shell]

ill give it a try, but i did get it to work with a simple mult increaser before

[empty brook]

i thought this one was going to be easy but apparently not lmao

i'm trying to make a Joker which gives 1.5x your mult when you score an ace or an eight. i thought i had everything set up here correctly--but when i score either of those, nothing happens.

i'm pretty sure i have the right card IDs here (8 is 8 and 14 is ace, right?), so i'm not really sure what the hell is going on

sorry if this is like interrupting helping Lyman here, not my intention, just really frustrated here

[rare shell]

yeah, nah, still not showing points. i think the trigger here is fine

[grand geode]

mmmmm

yea no clue

[rare shell]

[grand geode]

mood

[umbral pilot]

[molten lily]

Yep, r2 and TS mod managers both use the thunderstore.io/api and much of the mod management logic is the same. We usually have r2 at the top of the mod list in communities website, so that people know about r2 as an option.

[cerulean herald]

itll be okay brudder, everything will work out in the end and all the code will run perfectly. It's all preordained 😆

[rare shell]

WOOOOOO

I GOT IT TO WORK

[cerulean herald]

give yourself up to the coding gods

[rare shell]

for some reason it didnt want to show until i placed a Colour field in there???

[grand geode]

wack

[empty brook]

if you asked me for 100 answers on what would have fixed it

that would have been none of them

[grand geode]

same

[umbral pilot]

the hell lol

that's an unexpected fix

[cerulean herald]

Yeah I've always seen r2modman at the top of any thunderstore list for like every game

[rare shell]

                    return {
                        chips = self.ability.extra.chips,
                        colour = G.C.RED,
                        card = self
                    }
                end``` it doesnt even change the color here

[cerulean herald]

Super cool that you guys let people know like that

[rare shell]

but it just works

just in case anyone else gets stuck like i did

[umbral pilot]

hell yeah, options make for a healthy community

[cerulean herald]

the coding gods are fickle

you must give yourself fully to them

[rare shell]

anyway i suppose ill show what i managed to accomplish today before i slumber

[cerulean herald]

then they will show you the way, which is absolutely full of 0 logic LMAO

[empty brook]

i like, stopped coding a couple of years ago, literally only picking it up again for Balatro (conveniently the language i used to code in was Lua)

[empty brook]

and man, lemme tell you

it's still so wack

[rare shell]

🤠

[empty brook]

wait hold on these are cool as hell

[rare shell]

card games compel me to learn to code

[empty brook]

especially devilish joker

[rare shell]

i did a lot of art for the sts modding community

[silk viper]

i can be ur angle, or ur devil...

[cerulean herald]

it can be maddening from what I've seen 🤣 but also so satisfying in the end

[rare shell]

i have just been grifting bits and pieces from the existing 5 github repos with joker code on them

[cerulean herald]

SHEEEEESHHHH

[grand geode]

i am so sorry if you went through mine

[empty brook]

the resources here have been really helpful, honestly!

[rare shell]

i will say i looked at all the other ones first to grasp how a mod file works

[empty brook]

the only reason i'm tearing my hair out is The Act Of Programming And It Not Working, but i would definitely be struggling a lot more if not for both the helpful people here + the useful github repos

[cerulean herald]

my angle or my devil eh...

XD

[grand geode]

like can you guess what this awful code does

[cerulean herald]

i love right angles especially

[grand geode]

that's right it allows me to checked for scored hand

because somehow the normal game doesn't do that

[rare shell]

aaaa i was looking at literally this today

[empty brook]

wait really

like what do you mean

[grand geode]

there was nothing that lets you see the score of your hand

[empty brook]

huh

[rare shell]

wew

that sounds like a good lib function

[cerulean herald]

Theres fr a solid community here

[cerulean herald]

other peoples mods can be REALLY helpful in helping you figure out what to do

[rare shell]

thats how its always been whenever i try to mod anything

[grand geode]

this was more like a bandaid fix lmao

[rare shell]

ok but

[grand geode]

if it works it works ! or something

[rare shell]

if theres not a function that exists is it not more like a prosthetic

🧐

[grand geode]

good point

[cerulean herald]

FAX

[rare shell]

when i get home from errands today i have to figure out how to make pagliacci real

[cerulean herald]

[tired mirage]

i gave up on programming years ago cause it makes no sense

[wanton rapids]

most dubious mr bones sidegrade

[rare shell]

im crying every time i get this off a spectral pack

[cerulean herald]

whats pagliacci?

[rare shell]

ohohoh

[cerulean herald]

AYO

thats pretty sick!

[empty brook]

this is really silly and i like it

[cerulean herald]

I'd take that anyday as a temp joker

[exotic dagger]

better word would probably be round instead of combat

[wanton rapids]

art is placeholder

[rare shell]

a man goes to the doctor and he is sobbing, screaming, absolutely crying in pain
the man goes "doctor, my life is a wreck, everything around me is falling apart"
the doctor says "the great clown pagliacci is in town, you should go see him! it will cheer you right up"
the man wimpers, wiping tears away from his eyes and responds
"but doctor, i am the great clown pagliacci"

[empty brook]

I HAD A FEELING IT WAS THE SAME ONE...

yeah i'm excited to see what you might do with that

[rare shell]

art goes hard though please use this for an actual joker

[empty brook]

You cannot grasp the true form of Jimbo's attack...

[cerulean herald]

okay that seems pretty cool ahaha. Weeping joker eh?

[rare shell]

idk if its just super twisted joker

[exotic dagger]

btw what's that triangle joker

[cerulean herald]

a box of hands art would be pretty cool haha, it reminds me of polymerization rn from yugioh 😆

[rare shell]

if you need some art leave a dm and ill get to you in a couple of hours

[wanton rapids]

square joker but 3 cards and scales off triangle numbers

[cerulean herald]

which I think could be a sick card in and of itself in this game!

[rare shell]

yeah im not sure of the effect in mind for pagliacci but i was thinking of something along the lines of removing the 4 lowest ranked cards in your deck and giving you $5 bucks after each boss blind? something like that

[cerulean herald]

we need that art for a polymerization abilty card/joker

[rare shell]

ah man i gotta cook up a bunch of reference arts

[cerulean herald]

that sounds pretty cool. I think if you can make it follow the story kind of that would be sick. Like maybe after losing (or skipping a blind) he would be sad, cry, and something bad happens? But when hes performing (during a battle) you get a multiplier bonus or added ability? like he gets a buff bc he's a great clown

[rare shell]

shouldn't you be checking with context.other_card.base.id == 8 or context.other_card.base.id == 14 here

[wanton rapids]

ok wow that's odd

[rare shell]

actually 10004 is an even number

[grand geode]

just base.id ignores Stone Card iirc

:get_id() checks for Stone Card

i have so many half baked ideas that i cannot implement because i cant sprite sob

[rare shell]

i am the opposite

[empty brook]

i like to think of myself as a nice middle ground: can't sprite and can't code

[exotic dagger]

that's low ground

[wanton rapids]

i also can't sprite (very well)

[empty brook]

anyways, tried it with this, still isn't doing anything

i'm assuming there's probably an issue with something that isn't the ID Getting Part™️

[cerulean herald]

the awesome thing is with the help of others here and the game files, I bet you'll still be able to make it work, even if you never made a mod or coded before

[rare shell]

maybe try iterating through the hand and getting the ids that way?

[cerulean herald]

I like never coded before this pretty much (light modification of other mods if anything, thats it. I'm just tech savvy, (build pcs, setup media servers, light linux stuff/ game console modification, hardware mods, ios/android tweaking) and nearly got an added mod function to work yesterday. I just messed up one thing, which @trim finch helped me fix

[empty brook]

        elseif context.individual then
            if context.cardarea == G.play then
                if self.ability.name == 'Read Em and Weep' and (
                context.other_card.base.id == 8 or 
                context.other_card.base.id == 14) then
                    return {
                            x_mult = self.ability.extra,
                            colour = G.C.RED,
                            card = self
                    }
                end
            end

the spacing is kinda wacky for putting it on discord but this is what i have (i can also revert it back to :get_id() if that's actually better lol)

[wanton rapids]

how do you check if you're in combat?

[grand geode]

Balatro is like my second time ever touching lua

first is for RDCards which is a discord bot not a love2d game

[cerulean herald]

thats crazy! even with that, you seem to know a good amount of stuff now 😄 and have published a lot of mods for this game already. I actually just helped someone setup your joker mods yesterday

the person didnt realize they needed the custom steamodded or wasnt able to use steamodded easily themselves due to win11/defender, so I helped them get that going

[empty brook]

i'm gonna be honest: i do not know how to do that lol

[grand geode]

oh i changed it to not use the custom steamodded now

only 0.7.0-pre

[cerulean herald]

POG. Does the new steamodded with joker support work with it natively now too?

or was there an update adding the atlas support thing?

[grand geode]

nah i just hardcoded the atlas thing into the mod itself

[cerulean herald]

maybe someone here knows how to check through the hand?

[cerulean herald]

big brain plays

I'll let them know they can use the regular 0.7.0 pre version of steamodded then

was the modified version unstable at all tho? seemed to work pretty well from what I heard even tho it was a modified steamodded exe

If it was all fine, i'll just tell them to leave it on the old version of steamodded and mystjokers

[grand geode]

i think it would've broken other mods using the api

[wanton rapids]

anyways, is there a way to check if you're currently in a blind

[grand geode]

try G.STATE

[cerulean herald]

maybe this can help? #⚙・modding-general message

someone was mentioning how to read hands I think

also this #⚙・modding-general message

[empty brook]

hold up, i think i might've figured it out

[cerulean herald]

possibly this too #⚙・modding-general message

[empty brook]

gonna do one more test to make sure

[cerulean herald]

okay gotcha, I'll tell them to update later today

[grand geode]

👍

[empty brook]

yep! figured it out

this elseif? apparently it should've just been an if statement (with a corresponding end later down the line ofc)

[cerulean herald]

ah of course of course, that was obviously what I thought it was cough... 😆

that was FORSURE what anyone guessed was the issue... 🤔 🤣

🤥

props on figuring that out tho fr ahaha 👍🏼 that'll likely help someone else out in the future too

[wanton rapids]

hm

[lean dune]

me going oops all 6s

parallel universe version [all cards are considered 6s]

[wanton rapids]

probably quite strong

[grand geode]

Rose-Tinted Glasses looks quite strong

Hall of Mirrors is weak

[wanton rapids]

might make hom common

and rose-tinted will apply the same conditions as sixth sense except for requiring 2

[hollow sigil]

I don't know lua but I looked at Steamodded mod example and I encode using vscode but there are no type hints what do I need to do

[lean dune]

vscode would show you type hints if they were there, but

1. The game code doesn't have them
2. VSCode doesn't have the game code or knows to associate it with your mod

it can only work with the information it's given

[wanton rapids]

art and reworked effect for rosetinted

[summer tusk]

noice

[hollow sigil]

thank,I'm going to study other people's code

[cerulean herald]

you checked out the games files too right? unpacked the exe?

most of the info is available somewhere in there too, just gotta search around for the variables you need

that + other mod code helps quite a bit

https://www.reddit.com/r/lua/comments/14i3dn7/lua_in_visual_studio_code/

This may be useful to you too ^

[hollow sigil]

thank，This is exactly what I wanted to know, I thought I needed to decompile to get the code

[cerulean herald]

You might be able to point vscode towards the exe (or unpacked exe) as well to get hints

Check out that reddit post too, I think the top suggestion mentioned zerobrane studio which seems like it could be useful for this case (lua coding)

or the vscode extensions mentioned in the post @hollow sigil

LOVE extension would prolly help too

a lot of people recomoned sublime for love

[hollow sigil]

Thank you for your help!

[cerulean herald]

https://www.reddit.com/r/love2d/comments/paehr7/which_codetext_editor_do_you_use/ @hollow sigil

Think most people here are using sublime for mod development

[wanton rapids]

i'm using vs code but idrc about type hints

[dapper nacelle]

I'm not modding at all but I enjoy mods since a long time, i have to say, been lurking here for some days now, you guys have absolute speechless idea. Hope to see mods soon

[cerulean herald]

@dapper nacelle have u seen the current mods?

[grand geode]

i already have love2d extensions installed (somehow) so that was a nice bonus

[cerulean herald]

https://github.com/jie65535/awesome-balatro @dapper nacelle

[cerulean herald]

psychic brain plays ahaha

[summer tusk]

got that future sight mod installed irl

[grand geode]

oh yeaaa i wanted to make a love2d game a few years ago that's why i had the extension

[cerulean herald]

now that makes sense ahaha. What was the game idea?

[grand geode]

i forgor 💀

[stable crag]

There is also a really good plugin for jetbrains IDEs that use hint, auto complete, go to reference ant function fields hints

[cerulean herald]

ohhh whats that called?

[stable crag]

Idk, just open any lua file and it will ask you if you want to install it

So basically I make the rust and lua part of balamod in the same ide

[cerulean herald]

Oh shiet! That's big brain! I see that it has like AI assistance in it too

thats a sick IDE

maybe its emmylua? https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/9768-emmylua

[dapper nacelle]

How did i miss that ?

[stable crag]

I recommend opening the ide in the decompiled folder, create your mod file in %appdata%/Balatro/mods and drag this file into the ide so you just have to edit the code and press f3 on balatro to quick reload

[cerulean herald]

A lot of people dont know mods are out yet XD It's why this really cool guy made this reddit post recently: https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1b4kraw/balatro_mods_are_out_babyyyyy/

And mentioned it in the Steam discussions 😏

[dapper nacelle]

Damn, i'll take a close look when i'll head home. Thanks a lot mate.

[cerulean herald]

If you need help installing the modloader feel free to send me a pm @dapper nacelle or ask in here https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1214093649772544050

A lot of people run into issues with windows defender or their AV/chrome blocking the modloader and don't know how to get around it

[dapper nacelle]

Yeah sure thing

[summer tusk]

oh wow thats a lot, whats the uh closest thing to a tutorial for modding here?

[cerulean herald]

I'll have to give this a try if I create a full on mod myself, after messing with the QOL mod the other day and damn near getting it to work (aside from one friggin word I messed up which Milck helped me fix LOL), I really want to try to make one myself. @hollow sigil You should check this out too m8

[grand geode]

the closest thing to a tutorial are the mods themselves i feel like

[cerulean herald]

I'll be writing a*** modloader installation*** guide myself later today for people who run into issues installing the modloader or don't know how to do it, or where to place the mods themselves (a lot of people seem to miss that on the github readme haha)

[cerulean herald]

oh wait

you mean installing mods? or WRITING them?

[summer tusk]

writing them

[cerulean herald]

OH scratch that XD

[summer tusk]

lol lmao

[wanton rapids]

yeah looking at modded code is likely the best way to learn how to mod

[cerulean herald]

sorry you'll have to wait for a full fledged mod dev to do that ahaha

[wanton rapids]

also looking at the source code

[summer tusk]

yeah fair enough

i read most of the code at work today

[lean dune]

probably inspecting the game code and other mods for the most part rn

[summer tusk]

but yeah ill read up the code of some mods tomorrow

just joined before i go to sleep to see what was on here

looks like everything i want to do is possible at least

[cerulean herald]

THIS. until in depth documentation is out, looking at other mods code and checking out the games lua files are the best way to figure out what to do

that and asking people here for helps when you're stuck

[wanton rapids]

also the fact that there are two modloaders doesn't exactly help

[summer tusk]

that too

[grand geode]

most use steamodded, i'm porting mine to balamod soon™️

[summer tusk]

im gonna have to figure out which mod uses what yeah

which one is the more flexible one in your opinion?

the one that would be better to learn first

[cerulean herald]

I feel like that shouldnt be too bad though yeah? Just choose one to load the mod, they both do similar things I think. Theres also a new modloader that loads JIT from RAM, so you don't have to modify the games EXE at all

[summer tusk]

assuming i was open to learning both eventually

i assume the code is almost the same at least

[cerulean herald]

Let me find the link to that new modloader, I was talking to the guy who made it earlier today

[lean dune]

given some of the structure is different, you're still essentially modifying the same code

[cerulean herald]

Heres the new modloader that runs from memory/JIT: #⚙・modding-general message

[summer tusk]

yeah ill probably be fine with the game code modification, its just the loader stuff

learning new things hardge

[cerulean herald]

very similar I think, both seem to almost work side by side at the moment, but seem to do similar things, so mods only work for one or the other when the exe is patched with both Balamod and Steamodded

[wanton rapids]

wait you can do that?

[summer tusk]

i think ill just try and make something simple to learn the basics

like making the cards spin erratically for no reason

[cerulean herald]

do what? JIT modloader loading or you mean run both balamod and steamodded together?

[wanton rapids]

run balamod and steamodded together

[cerulean herald]

eh kinda

I applied both to an exe and it loads fine

the balamod API worked, FPS counter showed up

but the test mods @stable crag gave me werent working

so they likely both are targetting the same code and steamodded wasn't letting the mods work

[wanton rapids]

which one did you apply first?

[cerulean herald]

steamodded

balamod was actaully 2nd haha

you'd think itd be the other way around right?

but like in the top left

under the version number in the main menu

both balamod AND steamodded were showing up

they were actually overlaying each other LOL

since they were both trying to show text in the same spot

let me show you

[wanton rapids]

as an aside, more jokers of dubious balancedness

[lean dune]

highly dubious

how about "Sell this card for a free Spectral Tag"

[cerulean herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1213980712022184096/image.png?ex=65f772a4&is=65e4fda4&hm=761cc2cfe216e90e8426fdc270426d94e6a7ac8018d6c3235c7d11dd020e73ae&

heres how it looked LOL @wanton rapids

this is how it ran https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1213985333356658698/image.png?ex=65f776f2&is=65e501f2&hm=ed23436bacb76e97e5ead5926074264103cbb1db27512eb6a761fc6167677251&

[silk viper]

if i wanted to change this line in card.lua
for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.hands) do level_up_hand(self, k, true) end
to
for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.hands) do level_up_hand(self, k, true,3) end
and make this into a mod how would i do that

[stable crag]

Yes, I use a try catch system like with pcall so it doesn't crash the game but is still a bit broken and cursed af xD

[lean dune]

that's black hole right?

[silk viper]

yea

[summer tusk]

i assume level_up_hand only accepts 3 arguments normally?

unless theres an optional argument

[silk viper]

yeah theres one more

[stable crag]

That's so cursed 😭

[silk viper]

number of times

so blackhole would level up every *hand 3 times

idk how the mod files work

[lean dune]

Something like this is easiest, probably, let the function do whatever, and when it's black hole, level up two more times

local Card_use_consumeable_ref = Card.use_consumeable
function Card.use_consumeable(area, copier)
  Card_use_consumeable_ref(self, area, copier)
  if self.ability.name == 'Black Hole' then
     for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.hands) do
            level_up_hand(self, k, true, 2)
     end
  end
end

given you'd probably also want the hand text changed, in which case copy the code from that block over, change what you need and run the original method otherwise

[silk viper]

what does local Card_use_consumeable_ref = Card.use_consumeable function Card.use_consumeable(area, copier) Card_use_consumeable_ref(self, area, copier) do

[grand geode]

tl;dr "run Card.use_consumeable first, then my code after"

[silk viper]

🤔

[summer tusk]

how would i write something similar if i wanted my code to happen before?

[grand geode]

put the reference line (Card_use_consumeable_ref(self, area, copier)) at the bottom instead

[summer tusk]

ah ok i get it

thancc

[silk viper]

idk how to ask this but why do we need to put that before the code we want to change, like what's the flow of things? what is it supposed to be

[grand geode]

if you don't then it straight up overrides the game's code

[lean dune]

you're basically replacing the method for your own version, but you still want the original code to be run

[summer tusk]

the card..._ref function calls the original use_consumable function i think

[lean dune]

so in your own function, you make sure the original is called when you change stuff

[silk viper]

maybe i should be asking, what does a mod file do in general

[summer tusk]

its possible to just completely replace it tho if you wanted to and it would be fine right?

like if you did a complete rewrite of the entire function?

[grand geode]

the problem with a complete replacement is that there is no guarantee it will be compatible with other mods

[summer tusk]

ah right

[cerulean herald]

it modifies the games code

like it lets you add your own code to the lua files

so you can do what you want and add in your own properties for cards/jokers/abilities/buttons etc

thats how pretty much all mod files work I think

[grand geode]

shoutouts to yippeegameover which has this stupid fucking code

[silk viper]

yea i mean in the context of this, like the lua file in \mods

[cerulean herald]

makes a lot of sense 😆

win game = you won game

[grand geode]

the modloader goes through all .lua files in that folder and apply them to the game

[silk viper]

right and how does it know where or what to apply

[cerulean herald]

it reads whats in the /mod folder than modifies the games code using the modloader to the relative/referenced code in the game files

[clever rampart]

is there a way to have my deck remove a specific rank on init

[cerulean herald]

theres not a whole lot of code for the game, so I believe it just reads the code in your mod file, then looks for that code in the games lua files. When it finds a matching target, it uses your code on top (or possibly instead) of the games code

I think mod files usually reference the targets too. You don't have to tell it to look in, say, card.lua because it just looks in all of the lua files, since it's targetting the game exe (which includes all the lua files and game code) not a specific lua file

[summer tusk]

oh right what order does it do them in?

[lean dune]

guys my strength is random

[grand geode]

i think alphabetical?

[silk viper]

so hypothetically i could just have for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.hands) do level_up_hand(self, k, true,2) in a lua file and plop it in

[cerulean herald]

I think you'll need to use the code mentioned up above

[cerulean herald]

up here

[lean dune]

have a look at how abandoned deck works, then just adapt it

[grand geode]

loop through G.playing_cards, check for the card's id, remove from table if it has that id

or just yeah abandoned deck i forgot about that

[silk viper]

yep but i dont really understand how to formulate that myself

[clever rampart]

i swear i cannot find the code for the abandoned deck tho

[cerulean herald]

you should probably read up on lua coding and love coding

[lean dune]

check Back:apply_to_run

look out for no_faces or something

[cerulean herald]

or ask chatgpt or something as well. The main thing is if you reference other peoples mods, you should be able to figure out how to implement your own mod using similar code

[lean dune]

don't ask chatgpt, it can and will give you utter nonsense

[cerulean herald]

Theres other code you need to write as well, can't just put for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.hands) do level_up_hand(self, k, true,2) in a lua file and plop that in mods and have it work

[silk viper]

lol i have been using chatgpt 😅

[cerulean herald]

another coding assistant AI then lmfao

Jetpilot is supposed to be good as both an IDE to write the code, and has AI to help assist you and error check

as @stable crag mentioned

[lean dune]

yeah, i guess

rely on common sense first though

[cerulean herald]

yeah ofc, like don't have it write the whole code, but you can probably use it for help

as well as asking here for help and referencing other mod files

and just the general lua and love documentation

[lean dune]

exactly

[cerulean herald]

it's probably not written as abandoned deck in the code

look through all the deck names by searching for "deck" in the files

[stable crag]

For now it's alphabetical but I'll add features to load a specific mod before or after another

[cerulean herald]

you'll likely find a deck with a weird name similar to abandoned deck @clever rampart

[summer tusk]

ill keep in mind to name my mod either aaaScreamJoker or zzzSleepyJoker

[stable crag]

If by where you mean where in the code there are events on balamod to help with that

[stable crag]

I was just talking about jetbrains IDE in general, not their AI

[stable crag]

Yep love2d doc and forum helps a lot

[clever rampart]

i cant find how to remove card

[stable crag]

😭

[tired ibex]

why does it make the left card go up by 2 ranks

[stable crag]

I have to admit that the dev tool api is named _devtools.lua for this reason

[lean dune]

because I made 7 be followed by both 8 and 9 for testing

[tired ibex]

ah

[lean dune]

(playing card api stuff)

[clever rampart]

i think im on the right track just idk how to actually remove it

[cerulean herald]

Ah i gotcha, yeah I just saw they had AI features on their site and thought they might be helpful. Haven't used it myself though for stuff like error checking so I cant say myself haha

[cerulean herald]

Yeah I mean... yeah ahaha. Kinda hard to explain more than that tbh 😅

But hey thats what this discord is for 😌

[clever rampart]

help

[remote zephyr]

Has there been progress on an in-game score preview mod yet by chance? Seems like all calculator effort I've seen thus far has been manual tools (external) rather than anything automatic, tho I might've missed a mod/thread somewhere.

(Would be super helpful and probably take about 20-30 minutes of manual calculations off every run for me...)

[lean dune]

Personally, I'm not gonna be working on it, as I believe using a calculators is not a fun way to play the game, and I never use one myself. But I do understand people want it added, and surely someone will create an integrated version at some point

[remote zephyr]

Yeah for me it would simply save a lot of time; I can do all the calculations myself anyway, it's just tedious and time-consuming.

[lean dune]

yeah I get that, it's just a lot more fun to play by feel in my experience, but that's just me

[hardy brook]

anyone know what these decks could possibly be?

I have an idea possibly for the left one but not so much the right one

[spice spear]

I think left was supposed to be a deck that made hands and discards into a single value

not sure about the right

[hardy brook]

I thought it could've been an earlier version for Plasma's card back

because looking at plasma, it's got a similar coloring

[cerulean herald]

I agree 100%! It might be a bit tough bc some jokers have random multipliers/effects, but I think if the mod calculated the score JIT/IRT that could be accounted for too, or it could just exclude those random multipliers/additions to the score. I would like the option to see what my score is going to be before playing the hand at least so I can know if one hand is better than the other due to my abillities/jokers/hand levels. It would be awesome to have as a native feature honestly, and could be left off by default

Hopefully localthunk either adds it in themselves soon as lots of people have requested this, or a mod dev whos interested in this hears our pleas and makes one 😄

[stable crag]

but the problem as you said is "random multipliers/effects", this is pseudo rng based on the seed at first and will calculate the next value based on the seed and each time it calls it, the new random number generated will pass through a hashing algoritm that will influence the next generated number. but like all hashing algorithms, it's not designed to be reversible function

so maybe making a full backup of the seed and hash can be a solution or you'll have to remake this pseudo rng function to not influence how the game stores these values

[hardy brook]

So trying to figure out how to get this working

I want so that ONLY at the beginning of the run, you get a Buffoon Tag

[dapper nacelle]

Unable to install the modloader atm, browser then pc detect virus atm

[stable crag]

you should check Immolate if you know a bit the C language

[cerulean herald]

Send me a DM, I gotcha 👍🏼

[cerulean herald]

AHH didnt know that!

[tacit mountain]

Did you try the PS version of the injector ? Or you can aim for Balamod depending of the mods you want to use

[cerulean herald]

That makes sense. Backing up that value each time seems a bit much but yeah could probably be done; I'd be down to have one with the randoms excluded though too 😄

[tacit mountain]

Or, for Steamodded, you can check at the lovely injector discutted in the thread

[cerulean herald]

That does sound a bit difficult to implment with how the pseudo rng currently works tho, but it would be interesting if a mod maker did make a mod like that by backing up the value each time it calls it!

I guess it might change the run a bit though? Since the next random value would also be different from what it was originally going to be

Or actually maybe not? If it called the random 1st value, backed it up, applied the backed up random number to the card during calculation and playing the hand, then the 2nd value would still be there and unaffected

[hardy brook]

Deck loads, tag does not atm

[cerulean herald]

This is a really cool loader! JIT loading! Thats dope

[tacit mountain]

That's the link btw, I will add it to the Readme asap: https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector

[umbral pilot]

I think it's cool too 👀

[white scarab]

This would work I believe. Just make a copy of G.GAME.pseudorandom (stores RNG state) and make the pseudorandom functions pull from that new table for previewing the calculations

[hardy brook]

I'm trying to use Buffoon Tag to give me a Buffoon Pack at start of game

[cerulean herald]

😆 Much respect to you for making this super cool modloader!

3 modloaders already, we got a 💪🏼 strong, dedicated community baybeee 😁

[umbral pilot]

if you do use this then you'll need this patch. stick that, along with Steamodded's core, debug, and loader dirs into AppData/Baltro/Mods/Steamodded

[umbral pilot]

:-)

just two modloaders though, this is meant to replace the injectors of Steamodded and Balamod

I guess you could call it a JIT injector? I dunno lol

[tacit mountain]

Yeah Steamodded will probably use this method as the primary one, and the other injectors (So Python, compiled Python Nuitka, Powershell and Compiled PS2EXE Powershell) will be switched as secondary options with disclaimer about there usage (AV, Game.exe being replaced, etc...).

[tacit mountain]

Technically thats "Just In Time" if you take it litteraly lol

[umbral pilot]

Yeah but it's not the cool kind of JIT

[lean dune]

alright I think I'm about done with the playing card API

[tacit mountain]

F more merge to do

[lean dune]

what i like specifically is cards being able to have multiple "next" cards for the purposes of straights and strength

if there's multiple "next" cards, you can randomize which one the card gets strengthened to, or set a fixed one

[remote zephyr]

Randomness isn't a big concern to me; the baseline can simply show a '+' next to the score preview if there are random factors, and that already covers 85% of what you care about on average.

From there one can get fancier if desired, and e.g. show the min and max possible scores from RNG, or get extra-fancy and show like +/- 2 standard deviations to give a decent idea of what's "possible but unlikely" in both directions. But simply ignoring the randomized stuff would already be hugely helpful.

(I believe there is no intention to add it to the base game unfortunately; not having a preview is a design decision, even if one I disagree with.)

[tacit mountain]

Ok so the plan for tonight is: Joker API with custom Sprite Support + Card API deployment + Mod menu tab + Powershell Compiled and Uncompiled Injector official deployment + Adding lovely as the new "Prefered" installation method for the Modloader.

[lean dune]

gotta get some compat with challenges resolved real quick

well yeah i guess I need to redo the view deck ui for challenges as well

[hardy brook]

So... still have no clue how to get the tag to load when I first start the run

[woeful finch]

im no expert in coding, but maybe use the code of anaglyph’s double tag spawn but instead use it at the start of game?

[hardy brook]

Yeah that's what i thought

problem is, I don't know how to force it to start of game instead of end of boss blind

[woeful finch]

idk either

[hardy brook]

At first I thought "Oh you can add vouchers and consumables at the start"

So i thought this would work

the deck loads but doesn't give me the buffoon tag

[woeful finch]

weird

[hardy brook]

lemme check something

[rigid jewel]

Something looks off

[hardy brook]

Should I do consumable?

[rigid jewel]

I think you might need to set up an event to give yourself the tag

Yeah I don't think you can give yourself tags with config

[hardy brook]

well currently it's showing boss blind

idk where G.GAME.last_blind

[lean dune]

i think if anything that needs to go inside config

[hardy brook]

let alone how to make it so that it loads ONLY at the beginning

[lean dune]

wait that is config mb

[rigid jewel]

Couldn't you use Back.apply_to_run?

I remember using it for my edition enhance deck and it worked fine

Didn't bleed into other decks

[lean dune]

even if you wrap that in a list, you'll still need to process that config in Back.apply_to_run

[rigid jewel]

(although it did bleed into the main menu xdd

Something like this but instead an event like Anaglyph to give yourself a buffoon tag

Only thing to figure out is what needs to be called to set it to start

I assume apply_to_run works since it's when deck effects at the start of runs are set up

[hardy brook]

idk

[charred sparrow]

Hi, just came across your post by searching for "overlay".
I think we have roughly the same mod idea.
I have vision problems, sometimes I have a hard time recognizing colors and small shapes
So I want to scan the current cards and display a text notification if I have a flush/straight or other combo.
Can you please tell me if you have made any progress in your endeavors?

[hardy brook]

DO NOT PUT A TAG AS A CONSUMABLE

[winter hearth]

I dm'd you

[hardy brook]

I broke it

[lean dune]

💀

[hardy brook]

welp

I looked at buffoon tag

it's a mega bufoon pack

So I can't even use that

[lean dune]

uhh

i think i need to rescale that?

[hardy brook]

Two alternatives I can do:

1. Make a duplicate buffoon tag that only appears when I use silver deck and only for the beginning

2. Figure out how to make it load a regular buffoon pack at the beginning of the game

[hardy brook]

nah

[lean dune]

I'll probably squish them somewhat the same way I do on the view deck ui

good enough right?

[dapper nacelle]

Done 👍

[lean dune]

one more lil tweak and all should be ready

[hardy brook]

Tried replicating more like the anaglyph effect

Idk

[lean dune]

where is round coming from here?

[hardy brook]

idk

it's a placeholder

I thought if I'd make it check for if Round = 0 (which it is when you start the game), it'd work

[hardy brook]

It'd be replaced with whatever checks what round number it is

[lean dune]

yeah this has to be fine

wait this isn't supposed to squish 💀

[hardy brook]

you broke it lol

But yeah I blocked out the sections

the round there would have to be whatever stores the round number in the game and SilverChecker is in case I accidentally go infinite

[haughty hinge]

wow that is code

somehow i understood it a bit

[lean dune]

https://tenor.com/view/one-more-time-gif-24625270

[hardy brook]

it's not even working code and I'm surprised you understood it

[lean dune]

i forgot to check how many suits are actually present vs. how long the suit list is

[haughty hinge]

me too and i do python like what

every time i see args i think of pirates

arghhhhhhhhhhh

[hardy brook]

I see that and makes me think that's the sound of my agony right now

[haughty hinge]

lol

i need to get back on my python skillz

also need to improve on my lack of understanding written instructions(I still have no idea how to install any mods or even the mod installer)

[lean dune]

aight it actually fits now

at least for six suits, after 8 I made it stop squishing so I don't get negative height card areas

and these are no longer being changed

[haughty hinge]

have you incorporated flushes and its variants or it does it by itself

[wild thunder]

you mean spectrum?

[lean dune]

flushes were the easy part

[haughty hinge]

: )

[lean dune]

spectrum is not gonna be incorporated into the loader

[wild thunder]

also with more suits flush beats full house

[lean dune]

but i did have to reimplement all of the logic for straights

because I decided I wanted to give modders a way to mess extensively with what cards come after what other cards

[jaunty lion]

my computer won't let me run steamodded

[lean dune]

new ways of installing are underway, for now you'll need to disable your av for the time of installation or add an exception

[jaunty lion]

even running as administrator didn't work

[lean dune]

try this

#1209564621644505158 message

[cerulean herald]

Have you tried the high contrast cards btw? That could help potentially as well, or using the mod that makes all your cards different colors! Still, I hope you make that overlay mod even if those work for you 😄

[cerulean herald]

maybe just a BIT lmao

[cerulean herald]

among us voice GOOD ENUFF FO ME!!!

[lean dune]

lmao

[jaunty lion]

this one has an icon now so that's some progress

nothing happens when i try to run it

[haughty hinge]

what happens after you run

since nothing happens for me lol

[cerulean herald]

send me a DM

I just helped someone with that haha

[haughty hinge]

yea i need help too lmao i suck with instructions

[cerulean herald]

wait i dont think its supposed to have any icon?

whered you get that?

from the github?

[lean dune]

haven't used it myself since I built the version I've been working with from modified source

[jaunty lion]

from the forum post above

[cerulean herald]

or maybe its your default downloader/browser icon

OH maybe its a new version?

lemme see

[haughty hinge]

yea it's the updated version from the post

[cerulean herald]

AH yep

nice!

[haughty hinge]

so what should happen when it is run

[jaunty lion]

am i supposed to just drag the balatro executable onto the steamodded thing

[cerulean herald]

yep the exe file

not the steam icon/desktop icon

some people mistakenly did that haha

[jaunty lion]

i did that and nothing is still happening

[cerulean herald]

funnily enough I did as well and didn't see a new steamodded.exe pop up in the same folder

where is it supposed to extract to?

[haughty hinge]

wish there was a video

that would make it easier to follow for me

[cerulean herald]

I have steamodded already installed

but in this new downloader

[cerulean herald]

I'll be making a guide later today

I'll try to include screenshots and maybe pictures

[haughty hinge]

it kinda sucks being terrible at understanding written instructions

[cerulean herald]

In the meantime just DM me or ask https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1214093649772544050 here for help!

[haughty hinge]

ill just wait for the guide lol

[cerulean herald]

I tried it as well and idk about that downloader since its new and didnt seem to drop a new steamodded in the folder I ran it from lol, but I can help with the original setup

just send me a DM @jaunty lion , I've already helped lots of people with it by now

Just helped @dapper nacelle like less than 30m ago ahaha

[cerulean herald]

sure np! You might have to wait a bit though as I have work, but feel free to DM me if you want some quick help. It's pretty easy once u disable your AV (most likely windows defender)

[haughty hinge]

k

[cerulean herald]

If you have another one like Kaspersky or Avast, its even easier

AH I FOUND THE ISSUE

with the downloader

it creates a temporary version of steamodded_injector.exe in %appdata%/Roaming/Balatro

for some reason it didnt automatically start the injector for me

and since balatro isnt in the default place it is in for most people (the steamlibrary in C:/

it just didnt do anything lol, didnt popup any errors either

[haughty hinge]

so to get it working you need to drag it to that place

[cerulean herald]

This might work for some people, but its def not gonna work for a lot of others since you cant specify the install location

[jaunty lion]

i wish this server had a voice channel, we could just stream the process that way

[cerulean herald]

Normally yes, but it didnt even tell me where it download the injector to, I had to look for it myself haha

So another user would have no way of knowing where it went

[haughty hinge]

so i have to drag all the balatro files into where the profiles would be?

[cerulean herald]

wait huh? oh for steamodded installation?

[jaunty lion]

oh there you are

[haughty hinge]

yea

[cerulean herald]

YEP LOL

[haughty hinge]

lol

[cerulean herald]

didnt auto run it for me either

which is more along the lines of what I expected

or open a file explorer window

[jaunty lion]

so i just drag balatro.exe onto this thing

[cerulean herald]

showing where it went LOLOL

yes exactly

drag only balatro.exe onto it, but MAKE SURE YOUR AV IS DISABLED

if you have defender use https://github.com/qtkite/defender-control

its a one click small program to temporarily disable windows defender

you might also have to allow the steamloaded_injector.exe in your firewall

but try first without doing that

[jaunty lion]

i just dragged the thing on the thing and it worked without any interference from defender

[cerulean herald]

THATS A FIRST LOLOL

did the window popup?

and stay up for more than 1second?

and did it say "press a key to continue" at the end?

[jaunty lion]

the command box? yeah

whee yippee!

[cerulean herald]

AYOOOOOO