🕹・game-discussion

[cloud sinew]

yeah but that's not going to appear very often

[hollow notch]

oh yeah how could i forget you my beloved

[brave goblet]

kind of an uncommon sight I daresay

[hollow notch]

shoutout to my stone joker certificate hologram run. X6 Hologram at the end

[cloud sinew]

do u mean mar balls

[lean agate]

I feel like I didn't appreciate standard packs enough because now I realized getting a few seals and then build your deck around that can be run winning

[brave goblet]

it's easy at first to get annoyed by the random naked 7s in standard packs

[hollow notch]

me when im doing a mime baron seed and i get a red seal steel ace in the standard pack 😭

[rich mauve]

I mean they are one of the main reasons (actually I think it's the only reason besides scaling some jokers) you open a standart pack

spending money to bloat your deck

[brave goblet]

just take tarot tycoon and strengtehn it into a king 🧠

[rich mauve]

it better be worth it

[hollow notch]

yeah just strength one card 12 times

[lean agate]

Collect my no seals no enchantments no editions sevens of diamonds

[brave goblet]

bean didn't think it was possible until doc did it

not 12 but like 9 times lol

[long zodiac]

Sounds like a fib run to me

[lime remnant]

type of shit doc pulling out

[brave goblet]

cost him the tourney

[long zodiac]

Doc does incredible things when he’s locked in on a MLBA game

[hollow notch]

i was legit about to say that

[lean agate]

Was it a 7 red seal if I remember

[lime remnant]

its one of the first thing i learned from doc

[lime remnant]

4

[brave goblet]

and then he got 3-0 nodiffed by bear cause he was vibe playing

[hollow notch]

but thats doc we are talking about

[lean agate]

Oh shit

[brave goblet]

I mean, you can take lessons from doc

[hollow notch]

someone who did lossless c++ somehow 😭

[lime remnant]

if doc can do it we can do half of it

[long zodiac]

On multiple decks

[lime remnant]

a quarter of it

[hollow notch]

maybe

[frank grove]

doc is about to lossless c++ for the 3rd time 😭

[brave goblet]

doc can't do lossless black++

man's got limits

[weary whale]

SEVEN TIMES IN A ROW ANTE 8 IS VIOLET VESSEL

I HATE THIS

[hollow notch]

yeah i actually havent watched much of his videos though

i maybe should

[long zodiac]

That may be the only time where doc would lose

[hollow notch]

probably a very good way to learn balatro

[tardy spade]

By what game mechanic can emperor not give emperor (except with showman)

[lime remnant]

maybe if he get away with it

maybe

[long zodiac]

His videos are very insightful bc he explains his thought process

And he has a lot more math and stuff

[hollow notch]

i mean emperor can give fool

[long zodiac]

Roffle kinda just blazes through a run

[tardy spade]

Yeah but it cannot give another emperor. Why not?

[brave goblet]

having an innate sense of how much to score does wonders

That's how he gets away with econ and shit despite a billion perishable rentals in the beginning

[atomic trout]

Scary boss

[long zodiac]

Yeah he helped me learn which hands one shot the first round

[hollow notch]

i think i saw a short of a bugged seed that an emperor always gave a fool and temp/hermit

[lime remnant]

savescum hur hur hur

[atomic trout]

Nevermind. It died.

[hollow notch]

does it not work with showman?

[tardy spade]

Does emperor being used count as it being on screen therefore it's blocking itself appearing?

[tardy spade]

It does

[lime remnant]

prolly

[frank grove]

speaking about red seal kings 😭 what

[lean agate]

I watched a handful of it and thought "mhm yeah yeah okay I'll remember that" and then just be forgetting to apply that knowledge to a real game

I should literally take notes lol

[lime remnant]

maybe until the animation ends

[tardy spade]

Might have been tarot-looping where they get every other tarot card on screen to block it from appearing

[hollow notch]

yeah maybe

[frank grove]

im not taking either of them 😭 purples actually do something here

[lean agate]

Daniel and just very slightly cooler Daniel

[lime remnant]

ts some holt bait

holy bait

[pale wolf]

fuck

[hollow notch]

me with frost prime in slay the spire

[long zodiac]

https://pbs.twimg.com/community_banner_img/2030514670658879488/rPu0UAnn?format=jpg&name=orig

[lime remnant]

what will this affect

[hollow notch]

i doubt thats possible

[frank grove]

worst timeline 😭

[humble gulch]

You need to play any other deck, please

[lean agate]

Uhhh what would this mean

[hollow notch]

maybe with perkeo you can do it?

but honestly what cant you do with perkeo?

perkeo is busted

[tardy spade]

It's been done many times with perkeo

[frank grove]

i need to do gsg probably 😭

[hollow notch]

yeah thought so

[lean agate]

Abandoned is king

[humble gulch]

"W-What?, what is this?, face cards?!"

[hollow notch]

king where?

[exotic silo]

there is no king in abandoned /j

[long zodiac]

Truth nuke

[pale wolf]

it perhaps means the wiki won't be official anymore, but it doesnt mean anything concrete at all
playstack may retain most of its autonomy but tbh i highly doubt

[hollow notch]

lol

[tardy spade]

Not sure it's possible without perkeo.
You can have 1 in your consumables, 4 in the shop and 5 in an arcana pack, so at most you can block 10 of the 22 tarots

[hollow notch]

i dont think its possible without perkeo

let me try to find the short

[lime remnant]

actually 11

yk

magic ball

oh wait we talking about emperor

[tardy spade]

You need 2 open slots for the looping to work

[lime remnant]

sonionn

sheer luck to loop

[lean agate]

The fool naneinf when

[atomic trout]

Nooo

[tardy spade]

I mean tarot looping is what makes ante 1 naneinf possible

[atomic trout]

Ante 11 suuuuuuuuuucks

[compact niche]

does red chip non steel or steel proc baron more?

[long zodiac]

I wish that black hole would work with constellation

[hollow notch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/3sC-mOi7uDM?si=KWUvPu3Q_BHk5kIV has this seed been tested to work?

[tardy spade]

The time remaining in the universe is what makes it impossible

[exotic silo]

wow this is a start of all time

do I take it

[hollow notch]

no

[long zodiac]

Nah take popcorn

[exotic silo]

rental kinda scares me but I've got money

[lime remnant]

yes

[hollow notch]

its not even red 😭

[lime remnant]

you have faceless to support econ

fist is cobsiderable

[hollow notch]

rental red card sounds like as bad as it can get tbh

[lime remnant]

considerable

[exotic silo]

ok bro wtf

[lean agate]

Same thing

Red seal no steel
Baron 2 times

Red king steel
Baron once
Steel once

[exotic silo]

perkeo

[tardy spade]

Haven't tested it but cool

[hollow notch]

maybe astronomer and spam planet packs

[lime remnant]

punished for not taking fist

hur hur hur

actually js find hermi

inf econ

[idle kernel]

I never take rentals maybe if they are invisible or perishable

[pale wolf]

ew

[hollow notch]

i always forget the ratio for baron mime balancing

[exotic silo]

there's a smiley face in the shop, it's fine

[pale wolf]

the watchmojo of balatro

[lime remnant]

if theres something i learned its to not be picky

[brave goblet]

as even as possible, favoring barons if you got red seals

[hollow notch]

1 red seal steel king with baron mime is, 4 1.5x?

[brave goblet]

then make sure everyone copies mime when it's gold cash in

[idle kernel]

Money is key

[pale wolf]

what seed is it? im not clicking that

[lean agate]

The malicious rental perishable splash and eternal seance in the first buffoon pack

[brave goblet]

strushing time (a reference to the fact you will die in ante 3)

[hollow notch]

or does mime copy the steel, red seal, and baron too

[lime remnant]

if the rental is needed to not die then id take it

[hollow notch]

if so then its 6 triggers with no copy jokers

[lime remnant]

maybe if i dont have econ joker i can hold for a round

[pale wolf]

mime adds to the same counter as red seal

1 additional trigger

[lean agate]

To make it easier, I just think Steel as another Baron

[lime remnant]

in this case he has faceless so

[hollow notch]

im guessing that includes scoring jokers cause photochad combo

and the mime baron of played hands

[lime remnant]

fist could have been better with perkeo idk

[pale wolf]

retriggers vs scoring events

[idle kernel]

You should only take rentals if you a decent economy

[pale wolf]

you want to balance the two

[hollow notch]

i already know there's a doc short about this too, i have seen it but i forgot the ratio

[pale wolf]

50:50

lol

balanced

[hollow notch]

i just forget how mime retrigger works

[lime remnant]

ofc but if im going to die then anything helps really

even rental

this is very costly

[frank grove]

87DQ0C3C i think

[hollow notch]

how does dagger work with eternals?

[lean agate]

acrobat my goat

[lean agate]

Nothing happens

[hollow notch]

okay

that actually seems very useful

you can basically control what cards it eats

unlike madness

which is

madness alright

im too scared to use madness right now

[lime remnant]

our goat

[hollow notch]

cause xmult is terrible without plus mult

[lime remnant]

straight lv spam joy joy

[hollow notch]

and madness could just eat my scoring :c

unless you want to spam like +mult cards or lucky cards ig

[pale wolf]

have you ever heard of putting it to the far right

[lean agate]

One time I accidentally shanked Oops All 6s during my first C++ completion, it was stickerless at that time too at ante 8, good thing it was on Anaglyph deck where I took Buffoon Pack skip to dig for stickerless Jokers, I ended up stickering showman

[pale wolf]

lol

[idle kernel]

Do u like madness joker?

[hollow notch]

doesnt madness eat a random joker?

[pale wolf]

(dagger)

[hollow notch]

tbh, never used it

[pale wolf]

like, dagger cant kill a joker to its right if there is no joker to its right :p

[lime remnant]

madness alone wins white stake 😂

[hollow notch]

isnt there a challenge that has a pinned eternal dagger?

i forget which one

[pale wolf]

yes

[cloud sinew]

yes

[hollow notch]

maybe i should do the challenges next 👀

[lean agate]

At Knife's Edge yyeup

[hollow notch]

cool

[pale wolf]

i cant lie
I don't like most of the challenges :/

[hollow notch]

some seem cool

[pale wolf]

i think some of them went too tame

[valid plover]

dumb challenge deck idea
Bad Beat
Shifts all chance effected cards to always have the worst outcome.

• Reserved Parking and Business Card never give cash.
• Wheel of Fortune never succeeds.
• Hallucination never creates a tarot card.
• Lucky Cards never active.
• Bloodstone never gives mult.
• Gross Michel and Glass Cards always get destroyed.
  Oops! All 6s is banned.

[hollow notch]

that one i saw earlier with negatice eternal paredolia seems cool, im a paredolia enjoyer

[lime remnant]

and some of them is straight bullshit

[hollow notch]

(and also a plant hater)

[lean agate]

The Jokers must've felt like that one Dangaronpa crusher video in that dagger challenge

[hollow notch]

me when golden needle 😭

[lime remnant]

oh look! pairslop!

[lean agate]

This is extremely avoidable unfortunately lol

[hollow notch]

tbh

[lean agate]

Unless there's a condition where you only or mostly get all that cards

[hollow notch]

i dont really do many runs with rough rng anyway

[valid plover]

what if i make it effect more than cards

like i make it less likely for your drawn cards to be for your most played hand

[heavy heron]

imagine dagger also gave you the sell value of the joker it kills

in $$

[lean agate]

The type of greed they're talking about in the Bible

[hollow notch]

the true dagger run is dagger and eternal gift card

[lime remnant]

oh look! pairslop 2.0!

[heavy heron]

i mean listen…

dagger kinda mid..

[hollow notch]

if the planets align enough maybe

[heady river]

@patent sail your execution date is now!!!

[runic herald]

Balatro challenge: photochad banned

Many are unable to win now

[hollow notch]

😭

[patent sail]

hi?

what?

[lean agate]

Lusty Joker synergy

[hollow notch]

Just double blueprint stuntman easy win

actual speedrun seed i found randomly on plasma white stake

double rare tag skip gave stuntman and invis

and then i think a buffoon pack in like a shop or two gives blueprint and invis copies blueprint

and you can just skip endlessly to ante 8

[bleak bolt]

w shops

[digital pewter]

when are we getting clean michel

[hollow notch]

sub 2 minute seed

[digital pewter]

is that... an eternal credit card!?

[bleak bolt]

no

[digital pewter]

doh

[hollow notch]

i think ive had a michel last an entire run

like 15+ rounds

[bleak bolt]

abstract joker

[hollow notch]

its either than or breaks in 1 round

which sucks cause its a great +mult joker for early antes

[digital pewter]

abstract really is the goat

[pale wolf]

Nopelatro mod

but reverse

[hollow notch]

also btw, who put that screenshot of a straight build with photochad, abstract joker and the x3 straight rare joker?

cause i had a near identical run to that

[valid plover]

what if
challenge deck that makes every joker and enhancement chance based

• every + chips is a random number between 30 more than normal and 30 less than normal
• every + mult is a random number between 15 more than normal and 15 less than normal
• every x mult is a random number between 1.5 more than normal and 1.5 less than normal
• every $ addition is a random number between $8 more than normal and $8 less than normal
• these values cannot go negative
• misprint joker is instead buffed to + mult a random number between -10 and 100

[hollow notch]

so basically misprint deck from cryptid mod

[valid plover]

idk i never played cryptid

[hollow notch]

an intentionally unbalanced mod

[valid plover]

is it kinda like
balatro's terraria calamity

[hollow notch]

well thats basically exact what it does

[valid plover]

lmao

[hollow notch]

maybe

anyway, breakfast done, time for balatroing

[pale wolf]

calamity takes itself way too seriously to be the cryptid of terraria

cryptid was a silly mod idea thread that got turned into a full (broken ass) mod

[tender quarry]

Had a chad with photo in shop but ignored it and decided to play fist instead

[potent tree]

i've heard good things about both cryptid and calamity yet never played a modded game in my life aside from minecraft

[potent tree]

the good thing about fist is it always triggers before any other jonkler

[serene forge]

calamity sounds fun until you play it

[pale wolf]

again? or same run

[serene forge]

not before photo

[potent tree]

ok fork what did i get wrong

🤦‍♂️

[pale wolf]

except all the on card scorers, and held in hand jokers before it in order

[serene forge]

on scored jokers -> held in hand effects -> everything else

[potent tree]

me rn

[tender quarry]

It triggers before all the important ones (xMults) and importantly can be used before steel

[pale wolf]

but yea fist is nice bc it happens before steel

[serene forge]

mhm

[tender quarry]

It gives +20 Mult very consistently on small hands and also gives access to an xMult option

[serene forge]

fist/stm with mime and steels is always fun

[exotic silo]

Burglar done, 2 left

[tender quarry]

It's simultaneously great short and long term

[pale wolf]

fist SHOULD work with hiker 🥀 why thunk why

[tender quarry]

StM is like raised fist if it was bad and also much less handsome

[pale wolf]

stm cant be that much worse than fist

its just plant fist

[tender quarry]

It's a lot worse

[exotic silo]

even if it requires strictly queens, it is more effective than Raised Fist can ever be at 2 queens, and it works with everything that Raised Fist works in

[serene forge]

nah

[exotic silo]

idk about "a lot worse"

[tender quarry]

StM isn't reliable until you're stable (and getting to be stable off StM requires you to take more risks than you'd like) and pretty limited afterwards before you have a lot of deck manip, both by acting off less hands and limiting handsize as you have to hold more cards and can't just use anything

Fist is a high A which I could be convinced to put bottom of S, StM is like low B

[pale wolf]

Fist:
says it looks at rank
actually looks at chips
cool, so hiker is a fun synergy, right?
right?
base chips

[tender quarry]

There's a massive reliability difference

And of course Plant

[serene forge]

that doesn't make it that much worse though i don't think

[tender quarry]

If you are disagreeing with the less handsome part though to each their own

[serene forge]

stm has higher highs at the cost of some consistency

[tender quarry]

Consistency is much more important than winning won runs harder

[serene forge]

yes

but you're not instantly winning by picking up fist

[pale wolf]

have you ever made a tier list? it would rewire peoples brains

because absolutely nobody rn is putting fist high A tier

[serene forge]

i do agree though plant vs stm is quite unfortunate

[tender quarry]

You're in a vastly better position by taking Fist and StM doesn't get vastly better until you have the deck manip to abuse it, at which point you have to have had good econ and stability

Which also means you're probably just winning anyway

[alpine stone]

hi

[tender quarry]

And like Fist Steel is a perfectly strong wincon under those same conditions

[tranquil cedar]

hold up... you're cooking so hard...

[alpine stone]

i genuinely got a straight on the first hand on the house

[tender quarry]

I have but it might need a revision, it's about a year old at this point I think

[tranquil cedar]

happens lol

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[alpine stone]

insanely lucky but my jokers are kind of bad

[frank grove]

ive been slowly doing my abandoned tier list

[serene forge]

I think the plant needs a nerf

[pale wolf]

actually im way off, people are putting fist that high I guess

[tranquil cedar]

💔💔💔 generational debt

this and the tooth

[tender quarry]

Yeah but this tier list is made by a good player it doesn't count

[pale wolf]

I think I was just underestimating the other notable +mult

[pale wolf]

well I don't consider the bad player's opinions in the first place

but I find it interesting when you say things that don't mesh with what I already expect from good players

[tranquil cedar]

obelisk above bbc?

[turbid nova]

yes

[tender quarry]

If anything obelisk only 1 spot above bbc should be the controversial thing there

[tranquil cedar]

ig i just suck at using the stone

[serene forge]

somehow fist just feels like it has no right being as good as it is

[tranquil cedar]

earlygame sweep

[pale wolf]

honestly yea bbc is inflated rank here

[lapis blade]

the mark is just the plants little brother or something

[serene forge]

are the tiers themselves ordered or no

[turbid nova]

reserved parking is a bit too high

[pale wolf]

i dont rember, its andys

hes pretty good at the game though

[tender quarry]

I go back and forth between Fist and the scaling +Mults (Except Red Card and Trousers)

[serene forge]

uh huh

[tender quarry]

I think there’s a healthy debate to be had between like Fist and Bus or Groker

[tranquil cedar]

is this (fist and bus) or grimbo
or fist and (bus or grimbo)

[tender quarry]

The latter

[turbid nova]

overall W list

[errant vine]

obelisk 🥀

[turbid nova]

wdym obelisk wilting rose

it's the goat

[tranquil cedar]

remind me which one was that again 😭
it's one of the few words that escapes the limits of my English knowledge

[serene forge]

the second one

[lapis blade]

what is this list about

[tranquil cedar]

okay thank you

[serene forge]

former means the first one

[abstract vapor]

🤤

[tranquil cedar]

oh that's right yeah I knew that one

[turbid nova]

this is the first joker tierlist where I agree on pretty much everything

[lapis blade]

incredible game discussion moment right here folks

[abstract vapor]

Thank you

[tranquil cedar]

idk man I'm drooling over here

[spare elk]

Btw what’s the chances of getting a Negative Legendary Joker? Is this common knowledge

[abstract vapor]

Very rare

[spare elk]

Cause I got one just today

It’s in run discussion if you’re curious

[turbid nova]

Still 0.3% right

[bleak bolt]

massive egge

[bleak bolt]

around 1/9000

[pale wolf]

Gold stake gauntlet

[serene forge]

each card in a pack has 0.3% of being a soul, and jokers have 0.3% chance of being negative

[bleak bolt]

if you count the soul

[spare elk]

So really unlikely

[scarlet girder]

always take the ante 1 double arcana skip

[serene forge]

so that's roughly 0.09% chance of a card in a pack being a negative legendary

[abstract vapor]

Yeah just getting a soul from a tarot is 1/1000

[lapis blade]

whats the chance of a black hole appearing

[scarlet girder]

3/1000 actually btw

[abstract vapor]

Wait really

[modest snow]

per tarot card

[scarlet girder]

yeah

[serene forge]

same chance as soul i believe, so 0.3% chance per card

[tender quarry]

Not quite, missing a couple of 0s

[pale wolf]

uuuh

[amber yacht]

Today I got a negative chicot from the first tarot pack

[bleak bolt]

0,0009% no?

[lapis blade]

can black hole appear in arcana or is it only celestial and spectral
ive never seen it in an arcana

[lapis blade]

chicot bug possibility?

[pale wolf]

ignore me 🦓

[serene forge]

:/

[spare elk]

Well then I got an insanely broken seed that you can try if u want

[bleak bolt]

it cant

[serene forge]

i could very well be wrong but

[pale wolf]

it can with omen globe

but not otherwise

[spare elk]

First ante tarot skip has negative Trib

[ancient gyro]

fist with a failure rate is a worse fist

[pale wolf]

well I know it's worse

[spare elk]

Not to mention the 2nd ante has an invisible joker

[pale wolf]

I was underestimating fist rather than overestimating shoot the Moon

[noble oriole]

Anyone have tips for the Omelette challenge?

[ancient gyro]

fist is probably the most flexible non scaling mult joker

which says a lot

[lapis blade]

why does shoot the moon feel like it gives 5 mult per card

[ancient gyro]

because it doesn't

[pale wolf]

It's probably less than that on average

[serene forge]

im playing 1.1 and it was nerfed to that

[glass creek]

Shoot the moon was just too good in 1.0

[ancient gyro]

on average it's jimbo mult

[cosmic sun]

endless nickname 🥀

[hollow notch]

anyone available to help me in #⚙・modding-support ?

[spare elk]

I think just kinda get lucky with a good Joker early on that possibly gets stronger over time or just gives something like Planets or Tarot

[lapis blade]

in 1.1 update local think will add 10 new legendary jokers

[spare elk]

Like Vagabond or something

[abstract vapor]

Fr?

[pale wolf]

I see there being only two possibilities
no new legendaries, or one new legendary and the collection screen is six cards wide now

[exotic silo]

debt run actually made it to the very last round, I wouldn't have won anyways but this was fun lmfao

[misty flame]

I FINALLY DID IT, 315 HOURS AND 2 YEARS LATER

[exotic silo]

it all came down to a cavendish being perishable

[cosmic sun]

gg

[serene forge]

couldve skipped

to preserve

[lapis blade]

no, thunk confirmed there wont be any new legendaries

[ancient gyro]

from within the tiers, jokers that I ordered by chips/mult/xmult are order within their subcategories in the tier. bottom and top tiers are ordered within the tiers regardless of subcategory

[pale wolf]

congrutalions

[lapis blade]

i was there when it was written

[pale wolf]

he's said many things

[misty flame]

ty

[bleak bolt]

why does this always happen to me

[pale wolf]

The update has been anticipated for so long that I can't trust any of the earlier things said about it

plans can change

[serene forge]

losing scaling for 1 round is fine

[cosmic sun]

Well as long as you don't die.

[pale wolf]

it is pretty annoying if it's a1

[ancient gyro]

better square than half

[pale wolf]

I think square should still scale even if the hand isn't able to score

[serene forge]

it is not a1

[pale wolf]

oh true

[bleak bolt]

nothing except for supernova scales when hand doesnt score

and even then its only because of the way it works

nothing should scale when hand doesnt score

[pale wolf]

I think if the condition is based on a hand being played and it doesn't mention scoring then it shouldn't care if it scores or not

[ancient gyro]

he means he wants to change it to that

[pale wolf]

actually
I take it back on the psychic part at least

because psychic specifically says play five cards

[frank grove]

does obelisk scale/reset on psychic i dont remember

[spare elk]

Is it ever worth taking a stone card that’s Polychrome or has a red seal hoping it’s a good rank when converted

[pale wolf]

yeah you can increase the cap on obelisk stack with disallowed hands

[abstract vapor]

Red seal yes

[spare elk]

Hmm well it’s polychrome but anything between 9-K is good enough so I’m risking imo

[abstract vapor]

Almost always worth taking a stone with a red seal if you dont have a red seal, or have one and its not close to the rank that you want it to be

[spare elk]

It’s that or Gold seal lucky queen

[pale wolf]

I would take that regardless of what rank was underneath it, that's just a good card

[pale wolf]

Wait or? I thought you meant and

[spare elk]

Yeah but I’m already on a good double trib run

So I already know what I want

[lean agate]

I was JUST about to talk about this when I watched doc stacking Obelisk on The Eye when his first played high card on the round is exactly tied with the two pair, then he proceeded to use more high cards and the obelisk didn't reset

[pale wolf]

I don't take red seal stone cards without any edition

[serene forge]

polychrome cards are either great or kinda just really useless depending on scenario

[pale wolf]

Red seal polychrome stone It's just so nice for pair runs

I mean I would prefer foil

[abstract vapor]

Why not? If you dont have a red seal already I don't think there's anything wrong with taking one

[lost vault]

miau

[spare elk]

e13

[serene forge]

nya

[pale wolf]

A red seal isn't super important to me unless it's on a specific rank I already want

[lost vault]

:3

[frank grove]

fist value /s

[pale wolf]

And wanting a specific rank is not usual

[abstract vapor]

But it could be

You dont have the true gambling mindset zebra

[bleak bolt]

does obelisk reset if i play a hand thats tied for highest

[pale wolf]

The way I see it there's like a 10 in 13 chance That the Red seal Stone just becomes a card that I want to hang

[pale wolf]

yes

[bleak bolt]

is it worth taking then

(eternal rental)

[hollow notch]

pretty good red stake start ngl

[pale wolf]

You don't have to immediately start scaling the obelisk you know, you can build a stack

[abstract vapor]

Ever heard of a strength

[pale wolf]

That's why it's a three number range and not 12/13

I'm not doc, I can't strength a two into a king

[bleak bolt]

wait i just realised theres pareidolia in the pack and i have midas mask

[ancient gyro]

I'll take a red seal stone if the endgame is 2-3oak

[abstract vapor]

Tbh its just a 50/50, it hits or doesn't hit, you don't gotta make it too complicated

[long zodiac]

Is there a way that i can disable the dumbass drag feature on chrome balatro?

[ancient gyro]

idk why youd want to unstone it though that isn't reapplying gold/lucky

[abstract vapor]

Stone cards are mid if youre not on plasma or on any run that's using 5oak

[ancient gyro]

not true

a stone is equivalent to 7 mercuries

[abstract vapor]

Like I said, 5oak runs

[hollow notch]

game crashed but we back thankfully

[ancient gyro]

in other words, rare occurrences

[tulip berry]

i love vandlizing public property!!

[fallow shadow]

5oak runs

[unborn cliff]

interesting

[tulip berry]

1oak :gigachad:

[spare elk]

Hmm seltzer

Nah not yet

[abstract vapor]

Not really, by 5oak I mean also flush

[ancient gyro]

in what realistic loser scenario would you die had you not played 5oak instead of 4oak in a gsg attempt

[tranquil cedar]

2oak 🔥🔥

[fallow shadow]

flush runs

[spare elk]

Found that Polychrome Stone, time to see if it payed off

[tulip berry]

Prof. Oak 😱

[spare elk]

Eh it was a five

Probably not good

[tranquil cedar]

2 of them????

[hollow notch]

do i buy overstock here? or open arcana pack? or take hang man

[ancient gyro]

or flush with any 2oak lobotomy alternative

[cedar sable]

balatrodle in 5

[brave goblet]

Bootstraps and misprint stickered

HTR op!!!

[valid plover]

the water cannot be that good jimbo

[spare elk]

Wait Balatrodle is a thing that exists

[hollow notch]

moon in first arcana pack, ggs easy lol

[tulip berry]

does anyone actually use showman

[cedar sable]

bro loves no discards

[abstract vapor]

He's not really that useful in ante 8 runs

[terse vale]

a voice spoke to me and it slowly started saying

[hollow notch]

showman is great depending on the build, also its good for getting two planets from mega i feel like

[spare elk]

Yeah I just used Showman to get a second Hanging Chad but it’s not a usual thing that happens/is used

[terse vale]

downsides outweigh tge upsides

[tulip berry]

yall fell into the showman bait

[hollow notch]

fair yeah

[tame comet]

balala will always make me giggle anyway hi chat

[hollow notch]

crashed again :c dont use fantom's preview ig

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[serene forge]

this is what showman is good for

[ancient gyro]

word cloud impending

[hollow notch]

lmao very nice

[tulip berry]

i hate people who dont do a lil vandalism then and there

[mellow garnet]

Chicot is so awesomely overpowered

Not having to worry about boss blinds is amazing

[tulip berry]

chicot changed my life for the worse

fuck him ass

[hollow notch]

bro it crashed again!!!! :C why???

[tulip berry]

im a certified hater

[ancient gyro]

mostly cause of timing inconveniences and chip source

[silk thorn]

this is madness

[ancient gyro]

varies

[hollow notch]

do i drop supernova for abstract?

[tulip berry]

thats so ass it might work

[silk thorn]

it did

[tulip berry]

sell everything and buy a horse or a hotel

[tulip berry]

too many negatives equal a positive ig

[silk thorn]

my bank account?

[valid plover]

somebody said balatro sucks because sucks because there's no guns

here's my idea

Glock Joker
All cards of the first played hand each round are destroyed.

[tulip berry]

im in there

:3

[silk thorn]

what

[tulip berry]

im walking inside of your acco

:3c

very empty

[silk thorn]

can you not

[tulip berry]

no >:3

[silk thorn]

:(

[hollow notch]

got two $20 hits from a single lucky card WWW

[tulip berry]

give em to ananas he needs the money more tha you

[versed sable]

yippie money

[silk thorn]

true

[versed sable]

ooh me
i don't have enough money
trust

[wispy temple]

How'd you do 4.7m

Was it bean bug

[versed sable]

yes

[cosmic sun]

Focus B

Focus J

[tulip berry]

im so poor i stole (("("some")"cough cough)) notebooks from school so i can draw

[spare elk]

Obelisk goes crazy on my 2 Hanging Chads, Photograph, Sock And Buskin and Double Trib run. Yup

[tulip berry]

SOME

[versed sable]

emotional support obelisk

[tulip berry]

dont ask how many "some" is

pls <3

[spare elk]

Just saw it and thought it’d be funny to comment on cause IT WOULD be good on my run rn since I’ve done 39 High Cards and next closest is pair with 12

But it’s just scaling too slow

[versed sable]

linear scaling vs trib run

if you haven't beaten ante 8 on that run yet then probably not a terrible pickup because of bad boss blinds but idk if you care

[spare elk]

Nah I’m on Ante 12

I’d show but it isn’t easy to just do since I’m playing on Switch

[toxic valve]

[tame hare]

@spare elk yk that bandora means tomato in arabic, which means ur a letter away from being a tomato.

[tulip berry]

my fave synnergy gotta be merry andy, burglar and yorick

[pale wolf]

I think there's going to be a bread Joker next update

[ancient gyro]

knowledge versus philosophy

[spare elk]

Well that’s great. I guess you could even say (insert tomato pun here cause I’m not too sure of one off the top of my head rn)

[tulip berry]

yo chat, is it possible to win a run with nothing but 1 merry andy, 1 burnt joker, 1 yorick, 1 mail in rebate and a burglar?

w sinnergi fr

[spare elk]

Yeah probab….. wait what burglar?

[hollow notch]

i hit plant :C

[tame hare]

basically a death sentence

[tulip berry]

hehe >:3c

[ancient gyro]

whatever u want

[humble gulch]

Who's Sinnergi, is it italian?

Thank you, Discord

[valid plover]

i lost on the last blind so i sent jimbo to hell

[tulip berry]

my neighbor

[tame hare]

you monster

[tulip oak]

another ibuki fan

no way

[spare elk]

Yeah the best character

[hollow notch]

i think ill be fine

[tulip berry]

why he so cute fr

[tame hare]

i think you'll be fine too

[spare elk]

Although I usually look like this but sometimes I decide be different/change it up Hol up

[tulip berry]

is it possible to win a run when your only scoring is stuntman

[tame hare]

no

[cloud sinew]

no

[tulip berry]

70 stuntman

[tulip oak]

no bro

[tame hare]

ur lurking

[tulip oak]

oh i thought you meant like

[cloud sinew]

im jokering

[tulip oak]

1

[ancient gyro]

not without planets, enhancements, and pristine deck fixing prior

[spare elk]

Dis

[lost vault]

the flesh panopticon ;sob:

[tame hare]

an ultrakill fan, yippe

this prison? to hold me?

[tulip berry]

ultrakill?

[lyric lance]

why the fuck are you banned from the olympics

😭

[tame hare]

ULTRAKILL*

[waxen quartz]

on plasma, stunt + somehow draw 4 str flush would do it?

[lost vault]

yay

i love the games ost

[waxen quartz]

stunt + 5 rocks

[tulip berry]

sounds like a bad knockoff

[lost vault]

devil may quake

[tame hare]

STRAIGJT TEARS IN MY EYES

[bleak bolt]

gold sticker printer

popcorn is such a pain im glad i could get it here

[tame hare]

my fave is the spinal staircase, the music that starts in prime sanctum 1

its too quiet tho

such a waste

[lost vault]

fascinating

my favorite is

i dunno

:3

[tame hare]

PROBABLY the world looks red

[lost vault]

the world looks red is tuff

[tame hare]

ikr

[lost vault]

i love it w lot

and also event horizon is great

[tame hare]

i also liked Chaos and Order

[lost vault]

order is good

[tame hare]

is this one of the godfist su#ide ones

[lost vault]

yes

its the third song that plays in 8-3

[tame hare]

fraud AINT for me

a mindfuck

[hollow notch]

i may be fucked here

[lost vault]

its so awesome right

[tame hare]

IK but i could only finish 1 every day

eats up too much mental energy

[exotic silo]

I forgot to screenshot but I only have Seltzer left before I get C++

[calm furnace]

imagine sitting comfortably above interest and still be worse than abstract joker 🥀

boots doesnt get enough hate

[hollow notch]

CLUTCH!!!

bell

[ancient gyro]

bootystraps gets enough hate on my tier list

[calm furnace]

i fully support your tier list

[brave goblet]

Cruelty down

[ancient gyro]

until syn recreates their own list

[tulip berry]

booty?

[glass creek]

[ancient gyro]

straps

[tulip berry]

i dont care about that part

[ancient gyro]

cheeks

[tulip berry]

whose

[serene forge]

you don't like straps?

[pale wolf]

should i make a tier list

[tulip berry]

depends on the situation

[ancient gyro]

no

[pale wolf]

im making a tier list

[ancient gyro]

there u go

[calm furnace]

we should make a tier list of tierlists

[tulip berry]

include me

[cosmic sun]

Nothing productive ever happens on Reddit because if you challenge an echo chamber you are downvoted to hell

[ancient gyro]

tier list of ppls eligibility to make tier lists

[ancient gyro]

guess what her screen time is on reddit

[cosmic sun]

Too much?

[ancient gyro]

let's say average weekly

[hollow notch]

do i copy the red seal king? or the lucky queen?

[tulip berry]

_ _

[pale wolf]

bro everyone at F

[tulip berry]

i can be at the bottom

that sounds wrong

shit

gtg

[ancient gyro]

i can be the lettuce

[lost vault]

what about me :D

[fiery nymph]

im so confused bro

nvm

[tulip berry]

thats kinda homopobic cuz u included straight but not any others bruh

[lost vault]

pair

[stark acorn]

move my goat stone joker up higher

[pale wolf]

not any others

[fiery nymph]

theres other hands?

[stark acorn]

he only needs like 5 stone cards to be useful

[pale wolf]

fuck srone ljoker

afupid idiot ioker

[lost vault]

ifbyou say so

[tulip berry]

pairsexual poggies

[lost vault]

:3

[lost vault]

if y think about it pair is gay cuz u play two of the same card

[ancient gyro]

how about the ppl on my blue seal list

[lost vault]

like like

a pair of kings

is yaoi

[ancient gyro]

if it was updated

[lost vault]

:o

[pale wolf]

😬

[tulip berry]

wheres pan bacon and egg?

[lost vault]

whar

[pale wolf]

so im ngl people like doc and syn having fairly differing opinions from the rest of us on some deck choices for consistency just makes me feel like no tier list is worth making

[cloud sinew]

i dont understand

[pale wolf]

and from each other

[cloud sinew]

syn plays so much BMP tbf

[pale wolf]

the level of skill changes what the tier list actually is

[pale wolf]

theres no way he'd factor that meta in lol

[tulip berry]

gn pookies :3

[cloud sinew]

if you play a bunch of something, it's bound to affect your perception of the game as a whole even if it's not representative of it

how you feel about stuff in a balance perspective is not entirely conscious

[pale wolf]

but he was talking about his experiences when streaking the decks

this is like saying if a tennis player gets better at ping pong they'll be worse at tennis

[ancient gyro]

bmp could've been the culprit of his flush vs straights consistency argument

[cloud sinew]

that's not what I'm saying

at all

it would be closer if you had said "this is like saying if a tennis player plays a lot of ping pong then they will play tennis differently"

[pale wolf]

yea i was being a lil hyperbolic

[echo sphinx]

grimbomaxxing

[exotic silo]

erosion + hologram worked, but the real carry is Campfire at x6 there

Seltzer nowhere to be seen

[shut hill]

scary face had other ideas

[cloud sinew]

i still dont understand what this is

[glass creek]

The tier list of all time

[pale wolf]

Ok so on these thing that are called "tier lists", the aforementioned tiers are listed on the left

[cloud sinew]

what is it a ranking of

[pale wolf]

its a list of tiers

[cloud sinew]

youre ranking tiers

@ancient gyro give me a random, but reasonable, restriction for a GS win

[echo sphinx]

is it "tierlist of how good of a tierlist that player with x background would make"

[pale wolf]

No playing clubs

[cloud sinew]

clubs as the base suit or anything that counts as a club for scoring

[pale wolf]

you mean for wild cards

[cloud sinew]

and smeared

[pale wolf]

base suit i suppose

[cloud sinew]

alr

[pale wolf]

just realized this is entirely trivial

[full rune]

Serious club hatred in here

[pale wolf]

yea multisuit counts as club

[cloud sinew]

mhm

[pale wolf]

on checkered

[cloud sinew]

im just going to play checkered

exactly

[hard mantle]

balatro

[pale wolf]

well

[glass creek]

No playing spades or hearts

[long zodiac]

How about no even ranks?

[pale wolf]

im gonna play a game of balatro

[cloud sinew]

im balatro

[atomic trout]

huh

[frank grove]

how did you only score 12k? with that? 😭

[ancient gyro]

crash 2 of your scaling jokers on your final hand

[cloud sinew]

471 base score is crazy

[pale wolf]

we like fortnite

[cloud sinew]

in ante 5 😭

[frank grove]

also ante 5 white stake is 10k boss?

[cloud sinew]

no thats the ante 4 boss

[frank grove]

oh yeah

i see

i forgot how numbers worked

[pallid galleon]

god i cant believe people on this server unironically play the game like this

[hard mantle]

ante 7

[cloud sinew]

if that's what it takes to win 🤷‍♀️

[exotic silo]

NOOO IT'S TOO EARLY 😭

[spare elk]

Man….. Balatro runs can take so long it’s insane

[exotic silo]

oh wait it's perishable

it can perish before being consumed

[frank grove]

yeah its worth taking even though its going to be a cash sink its worth it

[ancient gyro]

the nerve of some ppl

[exotic silo]

now, do I ecto and take it or do I just replace a joker

[cloud sinew]

yeah just make sure you play less than 10 hands in 5 rounds

[exotic silo]

kind of a tall task ngl

[spare elk]

Nice

Hmmm too long

[cloud sinew]

golden ticket, space, and swash are all swappable so i wouldnt use it rn

just keep it

GOLDEN TICKET?

miss, that is CLOUD NINE

[lost vault]

meow

[exotic silo]

oh just buy ecto and replace cloud 9 with the seltzer I think

[lost vault]

close wnough

[cloud sinew]

either that or swash tbh, depending on what your base mult is at right now

[exotic silo]

pair is lv6

[atomic trout]

I don't remember

[humble gulch]

Realest photomid

[cloud sinew]

hm

selling swash is a little risky

you score enough for a3, but not for a4 unless you get good hits on space

i would just drop c9 then

[ancient gyro]

ig this is unreasonable 🥀

[cloud sinew]

yeah that's not happening

not impossible, i just dont wanna

im doing no playing spades or hearts rn

[ancient gyro]

lol

[spare elk]

Crazy that The Plants such a bane to a Balatro players existence an emote exsists for it

[ancient gyro]

idrctbh

[lost vault]

idk most people dont mind it

[atomic trout]

So far so good

[pale wolf]

restriction: use at most 1 uncommon joker

[cloud sinew]

invisible joker unlock rules?

[spare elk]

But it is a common run killer tho right?

[lost vault]

no

the plant rarely ever kills my runs

[cloud sinew]

not in my experience

it's a run killer if you don't account for it, but that goes for most things

[pale wolf]

you can have jokers of other rarities

[spare elk]

At least for higher tier runs right? It’s what I hear about most

[pale wolf]

just never 2 uncommons at the same time

[humble gulch]

Okay

[cloud sinew]

for endless runs

[lost vault]

tf you mean high tier runs

[spare elk]

Well yeah sure

[lost vault]

theres not a tier system in balatro

[spare elk]

But still

[lost vault]

do you mean ante or stake

[ancient gyro]

no

[humble gulch]

Gold stake III

[spare elk]

I mean yeah fair but then why’s it an emote then?

[lost vault]

why not

theres a white stake emote

[humble gulch]

Completely unrelated?

[lost vault]

does that mean people struggle with white stake

[spare elk]

I mean then why’s there no Window Emote

[lost vault]

id hope not

[ancient gyro]

laziness

[lost vault]

it would be kinda obnoxious if every single boss blind was an emote i reckon

[humble gulch]

Me when players that depend on photo chad to win

[spare elk]

I’m just saying there must be a reason for it being there

That’s all

[ancient gyro]

infamous noob killer

[lost vault]

and none of us know that reason because we didnt add it

[ancient gyro]

that's about it

[exotic silo]

so, I made it perish, but then ante 5 presented me The Wall, which was rerolled to The Needle, idk which was worse but I was not beating either one 😭

[lost vault]

theres a verdant leaf wmote

even though verdant leaf is one of the easier finishers

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spare elk]

Well tbf I’m not a top tier player/pro but I know everything there is to know about the game

[lost vault]

do you

[pale wolf]

yummy

[spare elk]

Well basically everything in general

[lost vault]

if you think the plant is a genuine threat to most runs then you still have a lot to learn

[glass creek]

Are you suuuuuure?

[humble gulch]

You mean the basics I guess

[spare elk]

No I don’t think it’s a threat but I DID think it’s a common run killer I thought

[humble gulch]

This game is fairly complex in terms of gold stake

[lost vault]

same shit

inless run killers arent threats in your book

[cloud sinew]

theyre usually about the same for lobotomy, but needle is much harder for higher hand builds because you're often relying on beating the boss in 2 or fewer hands

[spare elk]

How so? I’m just saying like in a content perspective a lot of runs I see online of YouTubers and stuff end up losing to The Plant most of the time I guess cause it’s bad for endless runs most of the time

[lost vault]

in endless runs usually people have retcon or dc

[cloud sinew]

wall and needle both require "1x base blind size" per hand on average, for most decks and builds

[rich mauve]

it is if you are trying to have fun

[lost vault]

but no saying something is a run killer means it is a threat

[cloud sinew]

i have fun winning

so it's not a threat to most of my runs

[lost vault]

believe it or not not everyone has fun in the same way

[spare elk]

Yeah and tbf I do too have recon rn

[humble gulch]

Online runs without the purpose of teaching are often just made for content and not for optimal playing

[spare elk]

In my Photochad run

[lost vault]

to me face card builds are about as fun as any other build, if not slightly less fun because they have a chance to just lose without counterplay

[spare elk]

True but that’s what I kinda enjoy (at least after getting to endless)

[ancient gyro]

face cards are mostly econ

[lost vault]

and losing without counterplay just feels shitty

[valid plover]

what happens if i buy this on ante 1

[atomic trout]

Always Ante 11 🤯

[humble gulch]

Ante 0

[atomic trout]

Where most people loae

[valid plover]

serious or joking

[humble gulch]

Serious

[atomic trout]

Ante 0

[cloud sinew]

it's also possible to get to ante -1

[humble gulch]

But it's never a good idea

[valid plover]

holy shit im at ante 0

[lost vault]

photochad is like the only face card build i can think of with easy counterplay to the plant

[rich mauve]

you can have fun winning... while using different builds

[cloud sinew]

why are you fun policing while also arguing in favour of fun

[lost vault]

you too

[spare elk]

Though some the most fun runs are ones that use unconventional Jokers like for example: I had a Yorrick and Hit The Road or whatever the Jack discard Joker is with Merry Andy

[ancient gyro]

stm indirectly makes queens the most relevant face card rank per run if opening more megumi options

[lost vault]

stop spamming face card builds

do something else fun

[hollow mica]

What should I do

[lost vault]

yorick is the most conventional joker of all time

[humble gulch]

Skip

[cloud sinew]

familiar

[rich mauve]

okay

[humble gulch]

Or do familiar I guess

[hollow notch]

nice club boss blind into immediate gluttonous joker

[cloud sinew]

2/8 to hit a face you dont want to lose, and then your odds of getting 2+ K/Q back is quite high, and they'll be enhanced (so gold / steel potential)

[hollow notch]

makes up for bloodstone moment

[echo sphinx]

dilemma of all time

[rich mauve]

btw I am not fun policing. just saying there are different ways to win

[spare elk]

No I mean in the sense of Jokers like Hit The Road which aren’t seen as top tier, Yorrick honestly just ended up being there to carry

[lost vault]

you are fun policing

you are telling people how to have fun

[echo sphinx]

like do i just skip or

[wind cairn]

Why not have both

[lost vault]

yorick only has one r

[echo sphinx]

how

[frank grove]

get rid of superpos

[wind cairn]

Jimbo

[echo sphinx]

(btw its painted)

[echo sphinx]

nooo 😭

[rich mauve]

plant is not a threat
looks inside
doesn't even play towards face cards

[echo sphinx]

yeah thats probably the play

[spare elk]

Oh well mb I forgot

[lost vault]

whats the point youre making here

[echo sphinx]

for burnt mm

[cloud sinew]

and?

[lost vault]

yes if you dont play towards face cards the plant is easy

shocker

[echo sphinx]

me when a playstyle is resistant to some bosses

[serene forge]

what's the dilemma

[spare elk]

Well yeah and again I’ll just say that Plant is exactly that. If you’re playing face cards and don’t have Recon it’s going to be very difficult to get past. That’s all

[lost vault]

you arent having fun in the right way if you dont play face cards every single run 😾 im not fun policing you are

[echo sphinx]

oh wow The eye is nothing into obelisk (ignoring that obelisk is going to burn the blind)

[frank grove]

i dont get why its "unfun" to chose to not pickup jokers that have harsher counters 😭

[rich mauve]

lmao

[echo sphinx]

what to sell for burnt

[rich mauve]

never said any of that

[serene forge]

what's the conversation btw

[lost vault]

i know

im making fun of you by exaggerating

[serene forge]

superpos lmao

[echo sphinx]

die as fuck gg worst tarotgen

[ancient gyro]

pretend you're on reddit and just read 🗣️

[frank grove]

😭

[serene forge]

superposition is like the only universally hated joker that I actually agree with

[ancient gyro]

my most fun runs were

[cloud sinew]

V- "[plant is an issue] if you are trying to have fun"

L - "i have fun winning, so it's not a threat to most of my runs"

V - "you can have fun winning... while using different builds"

L - "why are you fun policing while also arguing in favour of fun"

[frank grove]

one of my most fun runs was my triple seance run recently 😭

[ancient gyro]

fun

[serene forge]

you're telling me playing the worst type of straight is giving me the same reward as playing a few 8s

[spare elk]

Yeah those runs seem great

[echo sphinx]

the most fun ones for me tend to be ones where the build is so lmao and it still wins

[serene forge]

abandoned deck is fun which means the first sentence is already a complete lie

[rich mauve]

the point is plant is a threat to face cards and faces cards are a type build

that's it

[valid plover]

which card do i kill for photochad

[rich mauve]

calling it not a threat is just wrong

[echo sphinx]

idk, splash

[lost vault]

thats not a point thats just two objective facts

[cloud sinew]

it is a threat if you do not account for it, but because I account for it then it is not a threat.

[lost vault]

its not a threat to me because i dont play face builds often i think i already said this

[hollow notch]

four fingers probably

[rich mauve]

even if you account for it

[frank grove]

outside of stm and i guess trib most face card builds dont even die to plant anyway 😭

[rich mauve]

it's still a threat lmao

[lost vault]

what if i account for it by not relying on face cards

[serene forge]

if you're using photochad, get a glass card, if you're using baron mime, get a few steel aces, suddenly plant doesn't kill you anymore

[cloud sinew]

i have only ever lost to plant because i did not account for it

[echo sphinx]

plant is a threat
yes
however
i build in a way that nuls

[rich mauve]

everyone knows to pick up glass cards and directors cut

[echo sphinx]

is simple

[cloud sinew]

or because i was going to die to the scoring requirement anyway, not to the boss blind effect

[cosmic sun]

Have you been to r/balatro

[ancient gyro]

or not care for conditional scoring

[spare elk]

I feel every Balatro has a favorite Joker because of a certain run like for example some of my favorites are Arrowhead and Hit The Road cause I’ve had some fun runs surrounding these two

[cosmic sun]

This is the least true statement I have ever seen

[lost vault]

you cant say the plant isnt a threat when you dont even play face builds 😾

[cosmic sun]

People do not even check the boss blind 💀

[echo sphinx]

assassain is a threat
i buy zhonya to null potential instakill

[rich mauve]

then... you are not playing face cards

[cloud sinew]

leaf is still a threat to grimbo because you only did that build because you accounted for it /strawman

[lost vault]

correct

[rich mauve]

then why are you talking about plant not being a threat

[cloud sinew]

because it isnt

[serene forge]

who will win 5 copies of hanging chad or r/balatro user with brain damage?

[rich mauve]

you don't even play face cards

[cloud sinew]

those are both true statements!

[lost vault]

because it isnt a threat to non face builds

[lost vault]

yep

[cosmic sun]

What is this face card tangent

[lost vault]

and thats why its not a threat

what the hell is even your point

[cosmic sun]

Did you know you can use face cards for econ instead of scoring

[echo sphinx]

college debts are a threat
i land a decent position job to null college debt

[spare elk]

I remember just the other day I had a Verdant Leaf boss where I just sold my negative Shoot The Moon cause they weren’t putting too much to my overall score

[rich mauve]

okay... but what if you play face cards

[lost vault]

hey skinky you should play face card builds so that you lose to plant more often

[serene forge]

not in this economy you aren't

[cloud sinew]

what if the world was made out of jelly

[lost vault]

i usually dont

what if i do

[echo sphinx]

😔

[spare elk]

Every blind can be easy in different contexts

[lost vault]

then i account for the plant

or i just die

[spare elk]

I suppose

[lost vault]

which is why i dont play face cards builds

:3

[cosmic sun]

Also preaching build variety even though I doubt they know half the builds in this game

[frank grove]

plant is just 1 round of no midas value

[ancient gyro]

what about it