🕹・game-discussion

[full rune]

Yes I am on black stake black deck currently

[viral raft]

literally anything that you cna sell works with campfire

[pale wolf]

campfire is winmore, bad joker design 🦓

[earnest flame]

Sold my dignity to pairslop and it didnt even scale my campfire

[tranquil otter]

true

[valid plover]

footage of my first win from yesterday

one day after i bought the game and before i realized the potential of mult jokers

[tame comet]

smeared joker my beloved

[cloud sinew]

most things are winmore. it's not inherently bad design that something is winmore, but it's a red flag for bad design

[viral raft]

funny build

[bleak bolt]

playing the game as intended

[viral raft]

Red card hard carried

[bleak bolt]

result

[livid scroll]

one day you'll get to use 4x speed either way, so starting now will spare you some precious time

[bleak bolt]

hungry hungry dagger

[valid plover]

i got a holographic red card in early game and then quickly doubled it with a spectral card

[full rune]

You best reorder those or I'll be forced to do it for you

[bleak bolt]

go ahead

[earnest flame]

Campfire doesnt even require any special economy

[viral raft]

the reason why negatives are mostly black isn't because they're negative, it's because 99% of the time negatives are coal in your build that does nothing

[full rune]

C:<

[valid plover]

what are those

[earnest flame]

Ive done campfire runs where ive intentionally stayed in negative money the whole run

[livid scroll]

gold stickers are gold stickers

[bleak bolt]

negative tag

[valid plover]

what are tags

[viral raft]

gets the same fricking 5 common jokers

[livid scroll]

but idk if it's the case there

[wild lagoon]

any advice for getting the satellite joker?

[livid scroll]

yeah.. when there's still a bunch left i mean

[cloud sinew]

anaglyph deck money tags

[naive jolt]

Localthunk if you ever read this, what idea did you have in mind other than perkeo ?
Did you intend for negative consumables to maybe be more of a thing ?

[viral raft]

gold deck/blue deck and go for a high money build like rebate or lucky card

or you could just go anaglyph deck and get a high money tag like Investment or handy

[cloud sinew]

no

[echo owl]

What’s the hardest gold sticker

[naive jolt]

Get some blueprint and brainstorm, a deck fixed deck and a rebate

[cloud sinew]

turtle bean

[livid scroll]

it's just a tiny 2.25x boost for your runs

[echo owl]

I think gros michel a lil harder cause it’s random

[naive jolt]

You're not localthunk tho

[cloud sinew]

i know what he has said

and he has said that he intentionally gave perkeo a unique effect

[naive jolt]

It feel underwhelming for the complexity
The other ones feel way better

[echo owl]

It’s me localthunk she is wrong negative consumables will be more prevalent in 1.1

[naive jolt]

Ah so that's interesting

[cloud sinew]

blue seals

[full rune]

Oh purple seal, I see I see

[valid plover]

ive been praying for this combo

[cloud sinew]

or blue seals

[full rune]

Yes

[livid scroll]

and no chad?

[valid plover]

what's the chad

[full rune]

Retriggers first card played 2 extra times

[naive jolt]

I guess if you have blue seal, that voucher and the +1 slot voucher x1.5^3 but yeah

And then perkeo special

[livid scroll]

state in africa

[naive jolt]

Make sense

[valid plover]

oh hanging chad

[tardy spade]

Can I use balatro as an escape for my currently negative feelings?

[livid scroll]

this is chad

[full rune]

What's wrong, friend

[echo owl]

Oh it’s you

[livid scroll]

few people know, but sometimes it may work well with photo

[cloud sinew]

photo is worse than a coulpe smiley triggers until you get high base mult, at which point smiley isnt really useful, and you die to so many boss blinds

[valid plover]

i didnt know that was it's name
i just called it ballot box

[full rune]

That is exactly the reference

[pale wolf]

it literally says ballot on it so like

🦓

[cloud sinew]

well

[tardy spade]

I'm doing school exams right now, I've suddenly got a sense of forboding about my results.... What if I haven't been studying enough? I want to get the highest grades, I need to get the highest grades. And I might have done already. But I don't know....

[cloud sinew]

it's not exactly the reference

[full rune]

What benefit do you get for having a perfect score? Making mistakes gives you learning opportunities

[cloud sinew]

the exact reference is to the hanging punched vote, which is referred to as a hanging chad, and caused some automatic vote counting systems to double count votes sometimes

[tardy spade]

Makes it easier to apply to university later in the year. These are not my finals but they may well be the grades I submit to universities.

[cloud sinew]

expecting perfection will always lead to disappointment

[tardy spade]

And the universities I want to go to have high standards.

[full rune]

I would argue that overcoming your mistakes by being resourceful shows a higher aptitude for success than acing every test.

[tardy spade]

I got the top grade in maths, applied maths and technology last exams. I want to get those again

[livid scroll]

yeah i know, Ballot is a funny way to spell Balatro

[tranquil steppe]

If you put in the work, you’ll be fine

[tardy spade]

More over, I'm just worried that I should have been studying more. I didn't do as much study as they suggested, since I felt I knew most of it already. Now, I'm not so sure

[cloud sinew]

do you need to?

[tardy spade]

It would definitely help

[cosmic sun]

You sound like you study pretty hard already, that being said I hope you don't tie grades to self worth because that is a horrific path.

[livid scroll]

it was a joke

[tranquil steppe]

I found rewriting notes leading up to a test to be a big benefit for what it’s worth

[tardy spade]

True, I'm worth more than percentages next to subjects

[full rune]

School =/= real world

[tardy spade]

I'm worried about my exam for tomorrow, technology. So much stuff to remember for it.
Fortunately, I have 2 hours of free time prior to the exam.

[cloud sinew]

You should have a good idea of what the entry requirements for your desired universities are already, and if you dont then you should look into it

[tardy spade]

I do have an idea

[cloud sinew]

higher does not automatically equal better when it comes to university entry, they care about more than just your grades

[graceful schooner]

What do I do

[cloud sinew]

hobbies, volunteering work, job history, etc etc

[tardy spade]

Ok, well I don't have an idea outside of grades.

[tranquil otter]

cool

[tranquil steppe]

2hrs to rewrite notes/at least reread material sounds good to me

[graceful schooner]

That percio looks so good but I need sixth sense kr something

[tranquil steppe]

Now that’s smexy

[tardy spade]

I have a CV and I have lots of extra-curricular activities I can use.

[graceful schooner]

Ig illkeep him for as long as I can

[tardy spade]

But I want to do maths at university and for that I need a top grade in maths. What if I haven't quite scraped it?

[cloud sinew]

then you havent quite scraped it

[tardy spade]

But.... I need to have.

[cloud sinew]

are you going to die if you dont get those grades /rhetorical

you need them for entry, that doesnt mean your life is over just because you didnt get into the uni you wanted to

[tardy spade]

That one question on the exam.... I sat there for several minutes and could not see the answer

[pale wolf]

there will be people in your university lectures that got worse grades than you

[full rune]

Skip?

[cloud sinew]

you have a free slot

why would you not take rocket

[full rune]

Oh shit.

[cloud sinew]

😭

black deck players forgetting the one benefit for that god forsaken deck

[full rune]

🤣

[pale wolf]

if you try your best (to a reasonable point, without burning out) there isnt anything productive to worry about past that

[long zodiac]

I love it when the seed gives me an ante 1 baseball card, and then decides to only give me rare jokers

[tardy spade]

I'm probably fine tbh, I'm probably just overthinking this. I've done my study, I know my stuff, it doesn't matter if it's not perfect.

[pale wolf]

black deck? more like blocked duck

[long zodiac]

And i wish i were lying

[tardy spade]

• I am very confident in applied maths, which could definitely help me if I get top grades

[pale wolf]

drop the seed 😈

[long zodiac]

Im still playing rn LOL

[pale wolf]

lose 😈

[tardy spade]

I'm trying my absolute hardest to do well here

[long zodiac]

Oh dw i will eventually with this rental brainstorm

[full rune]

Eh didnt matter, still lost to wall

[long zodiac]

CAN THE GAME GIVE ME ONE DAMN UNCOMMON JOKER FOR BASEBALL CARD VALUE?

[pale wolf]

you could just sell baseball card

[cloud sinew]

econ is probably your problem

[livid scroll]

i mean they are quite uncommon to find

[long zodiac]

Its eternal

[cosmic sun]

You charge up Campfire for that?

[pale wolf]

🦓 gotcha

[cloud sinew]

1 ever 4 jokers on average, shouldnt be that hard to find

[long zodiac]

Well i lost
N3FPQZ8T

[livid scroll]

yeah it was a way to make a pun with their name

[cloud sinew]

what deck

[long zodiac]

Abandoned

Gold stake

[graceful schooner]

Should I leave perc?

[cloud sinew]

when did baseball appear

[long zodiac]

Maybe with the rare skip tag

Lemme see rq

[graceful schooner]

Even if I get some species creat I need to sell brainstorm

[cloud sinew]

😭

[graceful schooner]

Which I kinda wanna avoid

[pale wolf]

was the baseball card from a judgment?

[pale wolf]

oh god

[long zodiac]

It was from an ante 1 rare skip tag

And i passed on the constellation like an idiot so i was just cooked, but then I found AJ!

[brave goblet]

8 more gold stickers with the doc method

[long zodiac]

And a brainstorm in a buffoon pack

[fallow shadow]

they can never make me hate you ante 1 rare skip

[cloud sinew]

you got it in ante 2

[long zodiac]

Yeah but the tag was in ante 1

[fallow shadow]

they can make me hate you ante 2 rare skip

[long zodiac]

Baseball card was in ante 2

[cloud sinew]

the tag you got the joker tag in doesnt matter for the queue

[hidden lance]

i just cant get it. i cant get the seltzer . its avoiding me

[cloud sinew]

it matters when it's used

[long zodiac]

Gotchya

So i got it in ante 2

[cloud sinew]

ya

[pale wolf]

The seed is actually pretty abysmal for baseball card but I do see a fairly shallow space Joker ante 4 You should have seen

[cloud sinew]

tbf this seed is quite lacking in uncommons in the next 4 antes

[long zodiac]

Lemme look rq

[pale wolf]

honestly yeah this seed sucks for bbc

[hidden lance]

like at least i saw bean in the shop just at bad timing , but seltzer is actually like extinct

[long zodiac]

I should’ve taken the ante 1 constellation…god damn it

[pale wolf]

actual bad luck

I mean besides the taking the rare tag to get it in the first place

[elfin scaffold]

I love magic deck so much

[cloud sinew]

i dont think you should have

[pale wolf]

You shouldn't have had baseball card to begin with 🦓

[long zodiac]

It was at least some BBC value

[cloud sinew]

eternal blue joker vs constellation ante 1

easy choice

[long zodiac]

Yeah thats fair

[hidden lance]

at least this was fun

[pale wolf]

yea save money and go next

:3

[cloud sinew]

this is one of those things that you shouldnt look back and say "i should have done [X]"

because you dont have foresight

[brave goblet]

love to see that eternal riff raff

[cloud sinew]

making worse plays in the moment so that you have a better time sometimes later

will get you killed more often than it saves you

[elfin scaffold]

Who the hell grabs eternal riff Raff 😭

[brave goblet]

I would

[cloud sinew]

me

[pale wolf]

pros

[long zodiac]

That’s fair

[hidden lance]

thats my fav thing about ghost deck even when something becomes useless after a while its still a 1.5x

[brave goblet]

real

[pale wolf]

lilo how much econ is riff raff per round average not including interest

[cloud sinew]

uhhh

let me work out the average common value barring riff raff

[elfin scaffold]

If y sell every card it's like 4 dollars

[livid scroll]

4 maybe?

[elfin scaffold]

But you could get a common eco card

Like gold joker

[pale wolf]

That's a funny point

yeah you also have to factor in editions

🦓

[hidden lance]

idk who was yapping about grabber the other day but its in my top 10 vouchers now

[pale wolf]

(kidding just about sell value)

[pale wolf]

top 1

[elfin scaffold]

Negative edition needs to be more included

[pale wolf]

same rate as polychrome

[pale wolf]

And same sell price increase

[pale wolf]

oh you mean statistically

[cloud sinew]

im very glad that grabber is now at least in your top 10 now

but god damn those voucher stats 😭

[brave goblet]

that is a stunningly low grabber lmfao

[elfin scaffold]

We love to see directors cut top 3

[cloud sinew]

i do not love to see it

[long zodiac]

Um…okay i am definitely sharing this seed

[full rune]

Can riff raff create eternal jokers

[brave goblet]

on my new profile here overstock is actually my top 1 hmmm

[brave goblet]

no

[long zodiac]

I just got an ante 1 brainstorm out of a buffoon pack

[cloud sinew]

in the non-perishable challenge

but otherwise no

[elfin scaffold]

Eternal jokers can only appear in shops

[full rune]

Ty

[cloud sinew]

also buffoon packs

[long oxide]

Do I throw out trib

[brave goblet]

buffoon packs can only appear in shops

🧠

[cloud sinew]

no they cannot

[hidden lance]

oh that was when i was trying different nan inf methods unseeded

[elfin scaffold]

I've never seen em in skip pakcs

[cloud sinew]

they can be in them

[brave goblet]

SHIT

skip tags

[cloud sinew]

at the same rate as in the shop

[brave goblet]

eternals are only 30%, you don't take mega buffoon skips every day

[tranquil otter]

used to not show up in packs though

[elfin scaffold]

Double tag is max level delayed gratification

[brittle ocean]

Wasteful way above grabber is a sin

[pale wolf]

on a side note, how nice would it be if the Joker stats page also had a section for number of times Joker was purchased/ generated in slots

[cloud sinew]

yeah over 2 years ago

[elfin scaffold]

Except when you use 4 double tags on spectral pack just to not get the sould

[brave goblet]

delayed gratif banner build 💔

[tranquil otter]

true

[cloud sinew]

why are you taking ethereal tags for soul anyway

[graceful schooner]

Sold perc

[cloud sinew]

you should be taking charm tags for that

more cards = higher chance at soul

[graceful schooner]

Couldnt get any spectrals

[hidden lance]

this is kinda funny

[brave goblet]

what's the last one

[elfin scaffold]

True true I take wicher er shows up first

[hidden lance]

seltzer

[brave goblet]

ong

[elfin scaffold]

Just to see if I can find black hole

[long oxide]

Is trib better than mime?

[full rune]

This is welsh, I think

[brave goblet]

better at what?

[elfin scaffold]

Yes

[long oxide]

In a baron buils

[cloud sinew]

it depends on a lot of factors

[cloud sinew]

no

[elfin scaffold]

No

[cloud sinew]

you arent scoring many cards in baron builds

at least you shouldnt be

[long oxide]

This is what I have

[full rune]

High card baron

[cloud sinew]

drop trib

[brave goblet]

flush five baron 🧠

[elfin scaffold]

tuff ahh build

[tranquil otter]

sell trib for sure

he aint doin shi

[cloud sinew]

as good as a photo lol

[elfin scaffold]

Sell baron and spam flush fives

[brittle ocean]

Trib has a higher sell value than mime so it must be better

[brave goblet]

baron mime overrated, time for a trib idol sock naneinf

[brittle ocean]

You need like 17 copy jokers for that don’t you

[brave goblet]

it's a LEGENDARY

[brave goblet]

yeah

anything that's joker dependent needs that

[tranquil otter]

i think its 17 total jokers

[brave goblet]

baron mime is joker dependent of course but it scales with hand size

[brittle ocean]

Oh yeah right

Oops

17 joker slots

[cloud sinew]

you need 21 on plasma

[elfin scaffold]

Is it fair that I want to beat up kids on my bus when they interrupt me u balatro match with the loudness

[pale wolf]

Would you rather start a game with mime or triboulet

[cloud sinew]

triboulet

[elfin scaffold]

Trub

[brittle ocean]

On a random seed with no further info?

Trib fs

[elfin scaffold]

This is a dumb question

[livid scroll]

trib for the 10$ startup

[brittle ocean]

^

[cloud sinew]

at worst it's just yellow deck

[pale wolf]

what if you have a blue seal on a random rank

[livid scroll]

yellow deck with an extra ability

or 24$ yellow deck

[cloud sinew]

so would I rather start with a random blue seal and a mime, or a trib?

still a trib

[elfin scaffold]

Tru

Trub obviously

[pale wolf]

Would you rather start with mime and 52 blue seals or a perishable rental triboulet

[brittle ocean]

I might go for the blue seal

[cloud sinew]

52 blue seals

[elfin scaffold]

Tribu

Carrying trib to ante 5

[brittle ocean]

Pulling blue seal on a flush with the mime would be free win next few rounds

[pale wolf]

would you rather start a game with Jimbo or rental canio

[livid scroll]

you wouldn't even need mime in that case

[brittle ocean]

Jimbo

[elfin scaffold]

Jimbo

[brittle ocean]

Unless yellow deck

[pale wolf]

That's why I forgot to add mime at first, but it's funnier to still have him in the question

[brittle ocean]

Maybe even then jimbo

Rental at the start is just a recipe to go broke

[elfin scaffold]

Do y'all let sinful jokers decide your runs

[serene forge]

rental canio because i am skilled and will get trading card in the first shop 😎

[elfin scaffold]

I do sometimes

[pale wolf]

would you rather start the game with an already perished negative showman, or delayed gratification

[brittle ocean]

Rental cavendish or no rental cavendish 👀

[elfin scaffold]

But usually I let a stone decide my rub

[elfin scaffold]

Rental

[hidden lance]

mime is so useful, i love having a mime

[full rune]

Black deck makes me hate this game.

[brittle ocean]

Oh wait dumb question you can always just sell the rental cavendish at worst

[elfin scaffold]

Bro can't play with 3 hands 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[full rune]

I cant. No.

[ebon condor]

would you rather start the game with no face cards or a deck of only spades and hearts

[elfin scaffold]

Checkered all day

[full rune]

No face cards

[pale wolf]

would you rather start with polychrome credit card or bootstraps

[elfin scaffold]

Heaven or hell

[ebon condor]

whats checkered?

[elfin scaffold]

Credit

[brittle ocean]

Polychrome credit card

[elfin scaffold]

Rose deck

[ebon condor]

would you rather start the game on ante 5 or ante -60

[livid scroll]

would you rather start a run with 10 negative blueprints or 2 free rerolls

[elfin scaffold]

-60

[pale wolf]

-60

in my humble opinion

[spiral fiber]

gamble

[elfin scaffold]

I would have nan inf build by the time I hit ante 1

[livid scroll]

exactly, 2 free rerolls would motivate you to make 20 negative blueprints

[frank grove]

would you rather only be able to play on nebula or only be able to play on painted

[ebon condor]

how high would i have to make that number for ante 5 to be preferred

[brittle ocean]

Would you rather start the run with a negative eternal rental blueprint or nothing

[elfin scaffold]

Nevula

[pale wolf]

naneinf starting at -60 Would probably be kind of difficult actually, how would you build up the money when you win every single serpent in one hand

[full rune]

I dont want to start the game anymore

[elfin scaffold]

Egg

[brittle ocean]

Wouldn’t it be insanely easy

[graceful schooner]

Do I keep printing money or do I buy luchador incase next boss is the plant

[knotty zodiac]

lol me too im tilted af rn lols

[ebon condor]

wait until you get to ante 20

[graceful schooner]

I have basically no vouchers

[livid scroll]

what would the scoring requirements even be at ante -60

[brittle ocean]

By the time you reach ante 1 you have all the vouchers

[pale wolf]

it would be a departure from normal naneinf tactics

[cloud sinew]

same as ante 0

[frank grove]

you cant get naneinf if the score req is 200 😭

[pale wolf]

assuming you're trying to do it as soon as you can and not just wait until the normal game starts

[waxen quartz]

any ante below 1 has the same blind score reqs

[graceful schooner]

And do I go back 1 ante for 1 discard

[pale wolf]

because that would be incredibly lame

[brittle ocean]

Oh are you still assuming only 39 antes

[elfin scaffold]

-1.23e^5

Or sum like that

[cloud sinew]

ante -1 is the same as ante 0

logic follows that every ante below 0 is the same scoring as ante 0

[brittle ocean]

Starting at -60 would just give you 100 antes to work with

[elfin scaffold]

How do you get to -1

[brittle ocean]

Cause there won’t be an upper bound till you still reach ante 39

[full rune]

What happens when ramen goes below 1x

[cloud sinew]

heiro + petro ante 1, there's a bug that allows you to do it

[waxen quartz]

yellow deck + a lot of luck with a voucher skip

[cloud sinew]

nothing

[elfin scaffold]

DLETE

[cloud sinew]

it can't go below 1x

[full rune]

Shame

[elfin scaffold]

It disappears

[livid scroll]

if you had to score negative points you would win the moment you select the blind

[spiral fiber]

sell it before it does

[brittle ocean]

So it would be naneinf run except you start with a god build and all your desired vouchers from ante 1

[pale wolf]

I feel like this is intentionally dodging the whole starting that early aspect

how about you start at -39 and the game ends at a1

[brittle ocean]

It disappears

[brittle ocean]

I think only perkeo cryptid would work?

[full rune]

I dont even know what to do anymore in this game

[cloud sinew]

it disappears at 1x is what im saying

[frank grove]

oh i guess you would have to do bean bug or perkeo stuff

[brittle ocean]

Or ecto ankh

[cloud sinew]

it cant go below 1x

[knotty zodiac]

needle guaranteed on one ante a3-a7 or never find a blue seal

[livid scroll]

in the next update, would you rather creative mode with any item at your choice or a kiwi-based joker

[pale wolf]

what if you sneak up on it though

[brittle ocean]

Would bean bug work

[elfin scaffold]

Would you rather start with eternal vagabond, or start with eternal hanging char

[cloud sinew]

vagabond

always

[knotty zodiac]

vaga

[brittle ocean]

Does anyone know if ante 0 has a showdown blind

[frank grove]

vagabond always

[cloud sinew]

it doesnt

[brittle ocean]

Like if you reroll the boss somehow

[frank grove]

does -8 have a showdown?

[brittle ocean]

Or go from ante -1 to ante 0

[cloud sinew]

no

[pale wolf]

it doesn't, which makes me think that you won't have any showdown bosses in the negative antes

[cloud sinew]

only positive multiples of 8 have a showdown blind

[frank grove]

so it would just have to be perkeo

[knotty zodiac]

0 doesn't have a showdown even if you reroll boss?

[cloud sinew]

or chicot manacle

[cloud sinew]

nope

[knotty zodiac]

interesting

[brittle ocean]

Hmm

[knotty zodiac]

makes sense ig

[pale wolf]

when people do the a-1 The next ante doesn't have a 8boss blind

[brittle ocean]

So no bean bug

[frank grove]

oh yeah

[pale wolf]

I assumed from that

[brittle ocean]

Ante 88 has a showdown 😂

[frank grove]

i always forget about chicot manacle 😭

[elfin scaffold]

I love to see fortune tell after spamming tarrots for the last 5 antes

[waxen quartz]

or double tags -> hand size tag

[brittle ocean]

Oh right that

[sullen sleet]

should i take drivers liscence over the tribe

[pale wolf]

how are you going to make enough money for that

[elfin scaffold]

Obviously

[elfin scaffold]

No

[brittle ocean]

You just gave me inspiration for my next endless run

[sullen sleet]

i have enough cards to trigger the x3 mult

[pale wolf]

usually all the money is made by serpent parking or retriggers on gold cards, and neither of those are going to be very lucrative if you win in one hand right

[earnest flame]

Ante 2 wheel can be a pain sometimes

[brittle ocean]

Acquire a shit ton of Econ somehow and do a skip tag naneinf

[elfin scaffold]

Then obviousl6

[frank grove]

i guess rebate at some point once you're fully fixed

[brittle ocean]

Wheel = do nothing boss against a save scummer

[brittle ocean]

Wait where’s the pain part

Ace high wins here

[stark acorn]

three sixes

[elfin scaffold]

Justice>your fav tarrot

[pale wolf]

I feel like I only ever see the wheel late in a run

[pale wolf]

I just had to go and look up if a2 wheel even existed

[knotty zodiac]

wheel is just... really forgettable

like the diamond boss

[frank grove]

yeah i just forget its even a boss 😭

[knotty zodiac]

i dont even remember the name

[pale wolf]

especially to a save scummer like me

[pale wolf]

It's the portal

[clear mulch]

boo

[knotty zodiac]

window..?

[clear mulch]

did i scare you

[knotty zodiac]

AHHH

[frank grove]

that sounds right ?

[clear mulch]

😂 get scared

[pale wolf]

👻

[clear mulch]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i almost died of an heart attack,,,

[pale wolf]

haha there should be a ghost Joker

[earnest flame]

Find the lucky cards challenge

[viral raft]

Average cryptid artwork:

[clear mulch]

it should destroy a card if it's the first hand and it's a single 6, also giving you a spectral card

[knotty zodiac]

kinda op with perkeo
i have a fix
we should remove perkeo

[viral raft]

Too op, maybe should spawn a spectral when you play a straight flusb

[clear mulch]

how do i pin this 🤔

[livid scroll]

creates a wraith if a hand is scored with 400$ or more

[viral raft]

So straight flush may be viable in rhe current meta

[knotty zodiac]

just ping atmods tell them its an emergency

[viral raft]

Yk?

[clear mulch]

what about a negative spectral card when your mouse changes x or y position

[elfin scaffold]

Is trib the most common legendary?

[elfin scaffold]

I feel like I get it 3x more than the others

[viral raft]

No?

[livid scroll]

the most common legendary is mail-in rebate

[pale wolf]

jimbo

[viral raft]

Herm

[pale wolf]

Jimbo is every rarity

[clear mulch]

i'm the most legendary joker

[viral raft]

Jimbo is all jokers but he's just doing cosplays

[clear mulch]

yeah, cause you're a joke!!!! 🤣 roasted!! 1!11! follow for more EPIC ROASTS!

[clear mulch]

that was so mean :(

[viral raft]

(Nadie lo conoce sticker)

[clear mulch]

Nobody knows the sticker

🤔

[livid scroll]

da quando abbiamo così tanti italiani nel server

[clear mulch]

miao

[livid scroll]

bau

[clear mulch]

NOOOOO

[livid scroll]

SIIIIIII

[clear mulch]

bloccato

[viral raft]

Funny but i could just watch collection in ghe planets

[clear mulch]

girl is NOT tuff 💔

[pale wolf]

Ezio Auditore da Firenze

[marsh vortex]

This is so weird

[viral raft]

What

[pale wolf]

Good luck seeing base mult there

[clear mulch]

my neighbour

[viral raft]

I do the calc

[livid scroll]

it means "hello hope everyone has a nice day"

[viral raft]

Oh ok, wish you a nice day too!

[clear mulch]

goo goo ga ga

[viral raft]

[clear mulch]

this translates to "The Divine Comedy is an Italian narrative poem by Dante Alighieri, begun c. 1308 and completed c. 1321, shortly before the author's death."

[viral raft]

Neat

They should add a baby joker

[clear mulch]

me

[viral raft]

Imagine buying the baby just to use dagger 😭

So mean

[livid scroll]

yeah, it could like gain 8 chips for every 2 scored

[viral raft]

Too weak, maybe 10

[clear mulch]

i figured that the actual most common legendary is squoken

[viral raft]

Square?

[clear mulch]

squoker

i'm the squoker baby

why so round

[viral raft]

😭

Squoker

[knotty zodiac]

Baby Joker (uncommon)

If you can skip, 1 in 4 chance that you must skip
At the end of the round, increase your xmult by 0.1x (currently 1.0x)

[viral raft]

Sounds like a pokemon

[viral raft]

Why the 1 in 4 skip?

[knotty zodiac]

baby woke up, you gotta take care of it

[viral raft]

Also 0.1x it's really weak ngl

I'd rather just dagger it

[clear mulch]

remove the skipping mechanic, it starts at X0.0

cus it grows ☺️

babby become big babby

[knotty zodiac]

the duality of man

[full rune]

Is red card better than flash card

[viral raft]

100%

[clear mulch]

who sent this 🤔

[knotty zodiac]

i fucked up the ss lol

[clear mulch]

must be some random dyke

[knotty zodiac]

it was supposed to include papu's dagger comment gg

[viral raft]

Yeaj

Skill issue bus

[knotty zodiac]

srs

[clear mulch]

fucks it up but still sends it

hiow

[full rune]

A dike is a feeder fault magma follows as it rises through basement rock

[clear mulch]

yeah totally

[knotty zodiac]

the secret is no filter

[viral raft]

Bobby

[full rune]

Yep

[viral raft]

Mail

[clear mulch]

if you look it up i show up

i'm the definition

i'm the best example

[clear mulch]

yes im a sheet of rocks

see i told you

scroll down there's a selfie of me

[full rune]

Nice

[full rune]

So are you a classic dike then

[cosmic sun]

Had some Ben Shapiro ahhh student drop that word in a lecture once and he got told off

[clear mulch]

do i sell canio for judgement

it's at 1

[celest cobalt]

blackboard singing in the dead of night

😔

[pale wolf]

the canio or the judgement

[viral raft]

This is how it feels to open r/balatro instead of Balatro Discord:

[clear mulch]

1x canio

[clear mulch]

why is he enjoying it

that sick fucking bastard

[pale wolf]

1x or X1

[clear mulch]

what

[pale wolf]

which

[viral raft]

He's posting a tier list with baron on A-S tier

[full rune]

1x and x1 are the same number

[tardy spade]

I would love to see a challenge deck like "Infinite discards, cost for discarding increases by $2 per discard used in round.

[clear mulch]

xXx_TheOne1_xXx

[viral raft]

Plays burguer*

Burger

[clear mulch]

🍔

[knotty zodiac]

blurgar

[clear mulch]

you can haz cheezburger

waaaahh

[pale wolf]

what if there was a joker next update that had serpent's old effect

[full rune]

Blursged

[cosmic sun]

How it feels visiting a Reddit sub for a game you like

[clear mulch]

I think it would have the serpent's old effect

[viral raft]

Burgad

[cosmic sun]

Blissful, blissful ignorance turned cognitohazard

[tardy spade]

"Removes all discards" yeah that just removes the entire challenge

[clear mulch]

i'll try making it wait

(and ban burger)

[full rune]

No chance that thing stays together

[cosmic sun]

Okay some gaming subs are actually funny and tapped into the fandom

[viral raft]

Just remove +hand vouchers and joker to the challenge

[full rune]

Some gaming subs are just r/dota2 and cancer

[valid plover]

i cant believe balatro collabed with balatro

[tardy spade]

Then you have golden needle essentially

[viral raft]

Not because you have more hands dk

[full rune]

Joker has a first name

[viral raft]

And inf discards 😱😱😱

Naneinf discards

🔥

[astral mist]

perkeo is literally terrible why does everyone glaze him

it literally clutters your consumable slots

[clear mulch]

almost died with three legendaries to scale squoker (the third legendary)

[pale wolf]

clutters

[viral raft]

Idk mostly endless

Perkeo it's 4th most useful legendary

Trib being last

[astral mist]

people hate on trib too much i feel like tho

like yes they are overrated but they are still legendary

[cosmic sun]

Ragebait or honest discussion

[pale wolf]

+$4 minimum per round pre-interest is better than golden joker and thats assuming you just sell the duped cards

[viral raft]

I mean, trib as a legendary is just photograph premiun...which is already a meh joker

[astral mist]

i could probably win gold stake with any legendary including trib

[knotty zodiac]

bait lols

[pale wolf]

it is bait yea

[astral mist]

yes but its still fun

[viral raft]

The plant*

[pale wolf]

but there is a point to be responded to

[astral mist]

nah i genuinely dont like perkeo

[viral raft]

With that logic you should play full house because is fun

[cosmic sun]

Sorry fun as a defense has been revoked as of 2025

[astral mist]

yes you should, if you want. balatro is a game. games are meant for fun

[cosmic sun]

As per the fun and whimsy act

[knotty zodiac]

all my homies hate fun

[viral raft]

(I hate fun sticker)

[cosmic sun]

For example you know a movie is dogshit when people hit you with "erm just have fun"

[pale wolf]

"trib isnt bad"
"yes it is"
"why do you hate fun winning isnt the only goal games are to entertain and i am entertained by LOSING while having fun dont say things are worse or better than others bc its all subjective ✨ "

classic troll tactic

[astral mist]

never said trib isnt bad

just said its hated too much

none of the legendaries are bad tho they are all overpowered

[cosmic sun]

Statement itself is lowkey just anti intellectualism

[bold shadow]

I GOT PERKEO AND BLUEPRINT

YEA

[cosmic sun]

NO ONE ELSE can have fun guys

[bold shadow]

YES

[viral raft]

Trib should be reworked

[knotty zodiac]

server identifies comment as bait
everyone responds anyways lool

[pale wolf]

calling it underrated and saying its fun

[viral raft]

I hate face retrigger builds

[cosmic sun]

Being critical of anything = no fun

[astral mist]

yeah they get repetitive over time

[clear mulch]

why can't people just be like
"trib isn't bad"
"yes it is"
"ok, i understand your point but i still like it"

like, admitting a joker is bad doesn't mean you can never ever use it in a run ever

[astral mist]

like yorick is good but isnt fun for me. that doesnt make yorick bad, just unfun in my opinion

[knotty zodiac]

blackboard is a bad joker bc it has anti synergy with rough gem

[cosmic sun]

🔶

[astral mist]

kinda doesnt tho

rough gem encourages you to play diamonds, leaving clubs and spades in your hand

[knotty zodiac]

popcorn is a bad joker bc in 2 antes it will be gone

better take an eternal even steven

[astral mist]

lowkey blueprint should be legendary and brainstorm just shouldnt exist

[cosmic sun]

Well the same type of people who hate Popcorn would probably die if they took one eternal

[knotty zodiac]

campfire is bad bc it's a crutch in gold stake, orange stake is where the real challenge at

[astral mist]

real shit

[pale wolf]

It's so weird to me how people will get into arguments over how their favorite Joker is actually not bad, or they get offended when they get told not to use it if their goal is to win
I've said that my favorite Joker is hiker many times and I've never gotten a response about how I shouldn't be using it, I can only assume it's because I'm not implying others should use hiker or that it is good because I want to use it

[jade hinge]

i lowkey got all achievements in balatro and still dont know how to play 😭

[astral mist]

exactly. your favorite joker is your favorite joker. it doesn't have to be optimal

just whatever suits your playstyle

[knotty zodiac]

showman is good bc you can get two $50 temperances in the same mega arcana pack

[astral mist]

flowerpot is good because its better than sly joker

[pale wolf]

would you rather start a game with hologram or a $50 eternal negative egg

[knotty zodiac]

fun is when your build could end at any time. the only way to have true fun is to highroll the whole run

[fallow shadow]

na

its ok if some jokers are worse than others

tribs fine

[astral mist]

hologram 100%

[pale wolf]

maybe not legendary Jokers that you often have to give up a spot in your lineup to see what it is though

[astral mist]

trib can be fine its just that its hard to get working

[pale wolf]

like it should be more universally applicable

[knotty zodiac]

having soul be less insta-take is a good thing

[astral mist]

soul should be reworked

[pale wolf]

from a game design perspective, you want the ultrarare event to be a good thing every time

[astral mist]

there should be a deck that like lets it appear in the shop

[pale wolf]

having a one in five chance to be trib ruins it

[astral mist]

ehh trib is more fun than yorick in my opinion

not as fun as perkeo or canio tho

[knotty zodiac]

having a dud raises the excitement factor

[astral mist]

yorick doesnt really require you to do that much, its a bit less exciting than the other legendaries

[knotty zodiac]

if you know its going to be good, the moment is over

[cosmic sun]

The only solace is that Trib is $10

[pale wolf]

It's the same reason black hole should be changed in some way to be stronger, it isn't worth the probability it has

[cosmic sun]

Or Dagger food

[pale wolf]

it feels like a waste of a rare event

[knotty zodiac]

black hole is bad bc it's consistently just okay

which is bad for a ultrarare event

[astral mist]

it should do like 2X chips on your most played hand or something

[graceful schooner]

Guys

[astral mist]

in my opinion skipping blinds is better than playing them tho because tags give you immediate value

playing a round risks losing the run

[cosmic sun]

Bro showed his hand twice

[pale wolf]

saying something is better or worse is attempting to be an objective statement

[cosmic sun]

🥶

[astral mist]

i mean better usually just means statistically wins more runs but fair enough playstyle is subjective

[pale wolf]

@astral mist

[knotty zodiac]

baron is better than constellation bc it comes first alphabetically

[astral mist]

why the ping

[cosmic sun]

He is trying to make us run the explanation gauntlet

[pale wolf]

no further text was required in the message

[knotty zodiac]

taco bell is better than chipotle bc no one steals your taco bell order

[cosmic sun]

Never understood Chipotle

[pale wolf]

calories

[cosmic sun]

Maybe people do not have good local restaurants near them

[knotty zodiac]

it's clean eats that you can order from your phone when youre busy

[cosmic sun]

Because there is no way I am paying for customized mid

[strong willow]

If you think about it, technically Liquidation is the cheapest voucher in the game

[pale wolf]

well, any voucher after liquidation

liquidation is always $7 though yeah

[strong willow]

But Liquidation is the only one that is always less than $10, whereas the others aren't

Yep

[pale wolf]

clearance sale and liquidation are the only vouchers that never change in price

[ebon condor]

illusion is always the same price because it only ever showed up once (for the unlock)

[knotty zodiac]

breaking news: illumi hates hologram 😛

[ebon condor]

its just not necessary

[pale wolf]

sometimes you do see illusion just because of hologram magic trick purchase though

[shell dagger]

my streak counter is so broken

[ebon condor]

yeah but taking magic trick then is just not necessary

[knotty zodiac]

yeah mine broke a few weeks ago

[shell dagger]

ive died a good few times now and it isn’t resetting

[pale wolf]

did they break it in an update

[ebon condor]

ive done it maybe like 4 or 5 times before and its always felt like overkill

[shell dagger]

the new run keeps defaulting on plasma gold for some reason

[astral mist]

reddit loves chicot

[shell dagger]

when all ive been playing is yellow gold

[astral mist]

does discord agree

[knotty zodiac]

idk if its mobile only issue. but i had it during a stretch when a few of my wins didnt save correctly

[hidden lance]

oh man i only have 8$ left surely i can find something useful in this mega buffoon pack

[knotty zodiac]

taking magic trick when holo is low helps smooth out the volatility

u never know if youre going to go a whole ante without seeing a standard pack

[shell dagger]

most expensive abstract ever

[pale wolf]

credit card shouldn't be allowed to be rental

[ebon condor]

i have found it very rare that
-i need the scaling that badly
-i have the money to burn for it
-i actually see it

it being a worthwhile measure happens so rarely in my experience

[astral mist]

literally free 4 dollars

most useless joker

[pale wolf]

Time to stop interacting with bait by blocking it

[knotty zodiac]

sure, when runs are going sideways, we tend to be poor
but i think not taking if holo is low and u have the funds is prob kinda throwing

[astral mist]

ok your right

but ante 1 vagabond sucks

im not baiting btw i seriously dont like vagabond

[knotty zodiac]

ignore might be one of my fave features of discord

[pale wolf]

magic trick would be worth taking preemptively if the playing card got its own dedicated shop slot

[pale wolf]

I don't like that it still puts a giant button on every message You ostensibly are trying to just not experience at all

[cosmic sun]

That's where Vencord plugins come in 🦅

[astral mist]

finally something useful

[astral mist]

vencord is goated

but i cannot confirm or deny if i use it

[cosmic sun]

You could lowkey farm billions of upvotes on r/balatro

[astral mist]

yes but i dont

because im a modest guy

i want a life away from the spotlight

insane reroll pull

[digital pewter]

you've heard of speculative oops...

[astral mist]

thats enough actual balatro playing for today time to go work on my deltarune themed mod

[digital pewter]

but have you ever heard of speculative credit card?

[coral egret]

peak

[astral mist]

truely peak

[coral egret]

how far do u think i could get

[digital pewter]

one of these things is not quite like the others...

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[marsh vortex]

should blueprint be on something else or is bloodstone good

[pale wolf]

whats lucky cat at

[marsh vortex]

5.5

[pale wolf]

yea bloodstones good, id copy sock for more lucky hits just for the money until you need the scoring tho

[marsh vortex]

yeah that sounds good

[serene forge]

sel bloodstone

[marsh vortex]

i dont WANNA

unless i find the showman

it'd be funny ngl

[graceful schooner]

Couldn't get it

Game wouldnt give me a Voucher skip

[marsh vortex]

it's... it's beautiful

[pale wolf]

fake*

[marsh vortex]

god i love lucky cat runs

so is showman a good pick

i could potentially roll another bloodstone or photo or blueprint i guess

[red briar]

GOD I FUCKING LOVE BALATRO

530 POLYCHROME RED SEAL STONE CARDS IN A SINGLE DECK

[pale wolf]

you need an extra digit of $ for showman to really be a viable pick but if you die otherwise its worth a shot maybe

lucky cat would go

[marsh vortex]

eh i live for now

now BRAINSTORM

that looks quite nice to me

[pale wolf]

winning

[marsh vortex]

drop cat?

[pale wolf]

lucky cat goes :p

[marsh vortex]

rip

cat is one of my fav cards

[pale wolf]

also nice

[wicked musk]

Now all you need is Chad

[marsh vortex]

lol

HE RETURNS

[digital pewter]

ruh roh

[marsh vortex]

duuuuude

should i drop oops all 6's? i might just come look for it later honestly i need more cards removed

[pale wolf]

what are your actual game achievements

[digital pewter]

c++ and a naneinf run

i think my highest and also current winstreak is 7 but that's on a new save file

so i'm inflating it with lower stake runs

[wicked musk]

Id say keep oops until chad but thats just me

[digital pewter]

i'm like, very lazily going for another c++

i don't have the drive for it like the first time

might never get around to it

[marsh vortex]

ok

NOW i get rid of 6's right

[pale wolf]

icic

[steel jasper]

is this some kind of punishment?

[digital pewter]

definitely

[pale wolf]

sell chad

[digital pewter]

now take that greedy joker.

[pale wolf]

😀

[digital pewter]

[steel jasper]

[pale wolf]

no need for greedy on plasma

[marsh vortex]

do i have this organized wrong

also i dropped bloodstone for idol

not like it mattered but

[burnt topaz]

What do I brainstorm? (Constellation at 1.7)

[marsh vortex]

what a pathetic way for the run to end

but hey i reached my highest ante of 14

[brittle ocean]

Sell the eternal chad

[burnt topaz]

i just used a calculator

[pale wolf]

ok its TIME for blaTro

[red briar]

2 billion score in ante 4...

[nocturne frost]

Black streak 2

[pale wolf]

isnt it funny how buying the astronomer just to sell it afterwards is the play

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[marsh vortex]

i asusme it's a catchphrase

[serene forge]

how many times has it been said again

[barren spire]

Riff raff or bafoon ante one?

[marsh vortex]

you've mentioned the word bloodstone 3,529 times

[serene forge]

riff

[marsh vortex]

of those times, the sequence "hate bloodstone" appears 2,421

[barren spire]

Ty

[novel rain]

Anyone got any tips for Jokerless?

[brittle ocean]

Don’t buy any jokers

[marsh vortex]

Fuck... it's genius

Why didn't I think of that?

[brittle ocean]

I think quads is pretty strong?

[burnt topaz]

I CAN FINALLY SAY GOODBYE TO NEBULA DECK BLUE STAKE

[nocturne frost]

Third game died

[humble gulch]

Riff raff is basically a pack every round

[nocturne frost]

And 3 bucks for temperance

[novel rain]

...

[barren spire]

Hologram or bafoon on ante 1?

[humble gulch]

Holo

[barren spire]

Ty

[pale wolf]

i pivoted off a +12 dagger for the pants

weird game

[tardy dust]

I love bloodstone

[red briar]

Bloodstone Naneinf

is typing

[humble gulch]

Incantation didn't give me any gold 💔

[tardy dust]

I don't think I've ever used incantation, ngl

[humble gulch]

HUH

[ruby vessel]

Rare throwback W

[calm furnace]

god damn it

[tardy dust]

Chaos the clown, 1 free reroll per shop

[calm turtle]

What do I sell, hologram is at 12.75

[humble gulch]

I only care about the foil

[tardy dust]

Holo

[pale wolf]

crutch it up mainstream

should i banana pivot to cutnova

[tame comet]

i am back and ready to #win

[serene forge]

shortcut my favorite scorign jonker

[tame comet]

who may that be

oh hi blueprint

you have
... nothing to print but i'll take you

[harsh relic]

Used this Joker to win Gold Stake difficulty

[light oak]

do i sell dna for reserved?

[serene forge]

is there ever a world where this is takeable

[turbid nova]

eh

what's in the pack

[frank grove]

I probably check pack first

[humble gulch]

5 discards gaming

Pivoted from pairs

[calm furnace]

nvm all useless

[red briar]

when does the gay hand release

i can NOT just be good at balatro for the life of me

[humble gulch]

FUCK, I'm selling square

[pale wolf]

dangit

i shouldve rerolled that wall but i was stubborn

[red briar]

does anybody wanna hop in vc and coach me on how to not SUUUCK at balatro

[fallow shadow]

the secret is to make blue seals

[humble gulch]

I suck at coaching :3

[fallow shadow]

win every time

[red briar]

i wouldnt say coaching as much as it is "backseat gaming"

[pale wolf]

pick the option that's obviously right every time and you should be good :^)

[red briar]

we will be playing black deck gold stake because i really hate enjoying videogames

[serene forge]

me when i win

[red briar]

"here now win" ahh situation

[serene forge]

mmm ok

looks like we're doing brain damage gameplay again

[light oak]

what should I do here

[calm furnace]

hold R

[serene forge]

hold r

[humble gulch]

Of course

Bruh

[light oak]

?

[serene forge]

hold r

[light oak]

I'm on mobile?

[serene forge]

still hold r

[red briar]

you know it just hit me

gold stake is actually kind of hard when you dont get lucky

[humble gulch]

Obviously

[viral raft]

btw did you guys know that today is GTA VI release date...yeah...

[serene forge]

k

[humble gulch]

Optimal playing will always compensate the RNG

[viral raft]

win condition ante 8

[serene forge]

thanks emperor

[humble gulch]

I thought it was Argil just becase abandoned deck

[serene forge]

full skip?

yeah screw fib

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[red briar]

gold stake is hard :C

[tame comet]

welcome to balatro /j

[fallow shadow]

unironically huge

[red briar]

even white stake is hard atp

am i...bad at this game..?

[pale wolf]

does anyone know how to unlckk the scribly joker?

[wild lagoon]

finally got satellite, whoever suggested anaglyph for investment tags you’re the goat

[cloud sinew]

discard a

a

choo

[humble gulch]

Lol

[wild lagoon]

also never used the bootstraps joker before, kinda goated

[serene forge]

they should rename negative tag to garbage tag

[cloud sinew]

for high econ runs, yeah

[pale wolf]

uhm you sneezed!

cringe!

[cloud sinew]

sneezing is based

[pale wolf]

no! disease vector

[pale wolf]

said a frickin BACTERIUM

propaganda

[serene forge]

easy game is easy

[wild lagoon]

also got lucky with the negative rocket,

[pale wolf]

good roll

[fallow shadow]

what the hell is scribly joker 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[pale wolf]

holy fuck

[wild lagoon]

i got it from a negative tag too

[pale wolf]

that is ass

[cloud sinew]

:(

[pale wolf]

bad

[devout wasp]

i suspect brainstorm

[fallow shadow]

ehat the fuck si a abrainstrerm

[wild lagoon]

good for the goal i was aiming for my friend

[serene forge]

no

[devout wasp]

drink some water you'll be alright

[wild lagoon]

plus hieroglyph and petroglyph are goated vouchers

[fallow shadow]

I Only Drink Diet Coke

[pale wolf]

what! cringe!

thats a lot of aspartame (?)

[fallow shadow]

I Will Also On Occasion Drink Sparkling Water And Also Regular Water And Also Like Other Drinks My Pallete Is Actually Quite Diverse I Was Lying Before

[cloud sinew]

we love the fandom wiki

[sonic nexus]

How do I beat X-Ray vision
That challenge can kiss my angus

[pale wolf]

yeah just checked a can that was near me

[pale wolf]

thats brainstorm if he were popular

[fallow shadow]

how do uou unlock blueprint

[cloud sinew]

lobotomy

[bronze maple]

win a run iirc

[fallow shadow]

win a run how do i win a run

[cloud sinew]

get to ante 9

[fallow shadow]

jeeeereeeeeesus

thats a lot of sntes

[pale wolf]

you simply savescum 10 million times to win xray

[fallow shadow]

i dont think ive been past 3

[cloud sinew]

ante 9 is past ante 3 :D

[fallow shadow]

how do you di that without hacks

[sonic nexus]

Discard a royal flush
Ace King Queen Jack and a 10 of the same suit
I recommend using a smeared joker

[cloud sinew]

🤓 erm

[fallow shadow]

ok im done

i hate bloodstone

[cloud sinew]

royal flush is a straight flush of ranks 10 and higher

[fallow shadow]

how do i unlock hit the road? im 6'4'' by the way

[sonic nexus]

What does height have to do with a joker

[cloud sinew]

theyre further from the road

so its hard to hit it

[fallow shadow]

just in case anyone wants to know

[sonic nexus]

Stomp your foot on the road

[pale wolf]

1.1 upcoming

and this works with pareidolia

[sonic nexus]

Wait you can use pareidolia to do royal flushes?