🕹・game-discussion

[idle vector]

play AAAAC2RJ and spawn a showman

[waxen quartz]

could the bug be in immolate?

[viral raft]

Tbh immolate also deserves a nerf, let's be honest, even without the 20$ you would still pick it up because deckfix=good

Maybe 10$

[barren eagle]

I found my baron

[fading dome]

@cloud sinew ^

[cloud sinew]

vanilla?

[fading dome]

yeah those are vanilla odds

no smods

[viral raft]

Send seed

Nvm

[fading dome]

I quoted it

[viral raft]

Damn that's crazy

So multiple black holes are posible

[fading dome]

did you immolate search for that seed Sen?

[frank grove]

yeah i guess it has to be an immolate issue or maybe an issue with lilos filter?

[waxen quartz]

hmm implementation for planet vs spectral differs item next_planet(instance* inst, rsrc itemSource, int ante, bool soulable) { if (soulable && (inst->params.showman || !inst->locked[Black_Hole]) && random(inst, (__private ntype[]){N_Type, N_Type}, (__private int[]){R_Soul, R_Planet}, 2) > 0.997) { return Black_Hole; } return randchoice_common(inst, R_Planet, itemSource, ante, PLANETS); }

[idle vector]

didn't use that no

[cloud sinew]

howd you find it

[fading dome]

then how'd you find it haha

[waxen quartz]

while spectral pack code does something like soul

[idle vector]

just some code in lua it's pretty slow

[fading dome]

smart

[cloud sinew]

hm

[lean agate]

the wigglelings

[fading dome]

they look the same to me? what's the difference?

[barren eagle]

good ish start

[waxen quartz]

functions.cl compare to the spectral pack

[patent sail]

WHY does fist go off BEFORE steel

wait

no

AFTER steel

why is it like that

[waxen quartz]

just reposition the card. lowest rank to left of steel

[patent sail]

it was the same card

steel jack

[waxen quartz]

thing order. card effect before joker

[pale wolf]

definitely seems like a missable edge case for immolate

[barren eagle]

THE SHOWMAN MADE THE SHOW EVEN BETTER

[lean agate]

yup, i #lost

wow I should slow down lol

[pale wolf]

whats your point

[barren eagle]

well, better luck next time

[fading dome]

Yeah, found the file. I'm stupid though, do you want me to compare next_planet and next_spectral, or the *_pack functions?

[lean agate]

I just wasted a lot of good seed stoday

incredible

its genuinely impressive How I managed to fumble them

[barren eagle]

should I take this chat

[barren eagle]

You'll eventually understand how the game works

[lost fractal]

should i take idol

[waxen quartz]

just that at a 30 second glance, it seems different things are being done there. soul vs blackhole and different for the different pack types too

[minor portal]

How I imagine a farmer talks after dropping a bag of seed down a ditch

[turbid dove]

Guys i killed my mom

Shit

Wrong server

Does anyone play the binding of isaac

[tame comet]

OH OH OH OH

[patent sail]

thats not idol 😭😭😭😭😭

also ancient doesnt care about your deck

[lost fractal]

same thig? Okay. Saame thing

[lost fractal]

oh.

ok thanks

[lean agate]

i meaaaannnn I'm aiming for my second C++ but yeah I still make a ton of mistakes I might as well not barely scratching the surface of this game lol

[patent sail]

no thats ancient joker, not idol

[lean agate]

i need to sleep kewk

[tame comet]

hi canio

[lost fractal]

im joking..... i confiused them

[patent sail]

idol cares about the deck, ancient joker doesnt

[fading dome]

They look fine to me, though there are multiple definitions of each function depending on which balatro version you select

[idle vector]

AAALHDQM can be played with no debug tools; play small blind, pick up the showman from buffoon pack, play big blind, open small celestial

[pale wolf]

he looks REAL fucked up here

[lean agate]

massive superp pull

hungedman

[tame comet]

i died anyway gosh dang i-

[barren eagle]

gluck

well well well

[cloud sinew]

must be an issue with immolate or my filter then

[tame comet]

oh look its the printer of blue

[barren eagle]

I grinded so many $$ just to find it in one random pack

[warped drift]

man im sweating rn ive never gotten even close to this high

[pale wolf]

apparently someone asked about this once but it was deleted

[tame comet]

T_T

[cloud sinew]

lol

[barren eagle]

woah nice

[warped drift]

tyty!

[cloud sinew]

insane conspiracy that there are hundreds of seeds with double soul found, posted, and talked about

[warped drift]

having really bad voucher luck

[pale wolf]

@random ice sighting

[cloud sinew]

but not a single one with double black hole until today

[barren eagle]

same rn

[visual arch]

best way to get 5 hand size?

[random ice]

HELLO HELLO HELLO ITS ME

I play Slay the Spire 2 these days

[warped drift]

brutal

[tame comet]

HEY HEY HEY :D

[warped drift]

i loveee sts2

but i’m so bad at it

[random ice]

IT IS REALLY GOOD

[cloud sinew]

ghost deck, use ouija and ecto whenever they appear and take stuntman/merry andy whenever they appear

[random ice]

I will return to Balatro during the next patch or something

[barren eagle]

someone knows ball

[random ice]

Fare ye well

[tame comet]

this damn egg-

[random ice]

Lest I be summoned again

[pale wolf]

byby

[barren eagle]

free temperance value

[warped drift]

byee

[tame comet]

i took it trust

wait does temperance have a cap orrr

[cloud sinew]

$50

[fading dome]

Love seeing a random Roy

[barren eagle]

50$

[tame comet]

ah

[hearty tusk]

50 billion

[tame comet]

2 truths one lie ahh /j

[pale wolf]

theres a few people from balatrocord ive seen in the wild

sometimes i see youtube comments from yall

[barren eagle]

D reveal

[pale wolf]

im the most toxic person in the yt comment section

[fading dome]

I constantly see @limpid gate's comments on Aliensrock's channel

[pale wolf]

lol nice

[patent sail]

my youtube comments are downright nonexistent because i dont ever comment

[tame comet]

okay bye then

[hearty tusk]

to everyone oooooor... specifically srupid people

[pale wolf]

you

[hearty tusk]

srupid

[hearty tusk]

impossible

[exotic silo]

Constellation and a few Blue Seals carried by themselves, so Even Steven, Bloodstone, and Turtle Bean were there for the sticker

although for some time, Bloodstone contributed to scoring. It never triggered on the final blind, despite playing about 6 scoring hearts in 3 hands.

[pale wolf]

🦓

[pale wolf]

bean sticker!!! massive

[hearty tusk]

... how massive

[exotic silo]

2nd to last shop find, it just appeared lol

[pale wolf]

highest priority sticker imo

more than legendaries

[exotic silo]

Gros Michel is the other annoying sticker left

[cloud sinew]

100%

[pale wolf]

typical bloodstone performance and strong counterplay

[pale wolf]

having legendaries on different priorities of stickering is funny

[exotic silo]

me realizing I didn't need Photograph and selling it for Bean was funny lol

I was one-shotting everything until it appeared

[cloud sinew]

theyre different strengths so it makes sense

[hearty tusk]

why jimbo so low

[vale shale]

Not prioritized

[cloud sinew]

its a common with no spawn conditions and no self destruction

[hearty tusk]

fair

negative eternal jimbo🤔

[exotic silo]

I have Gros Michel, Seltzer, Showman and Pareidoila left in the yellow and above categories

[cloud sinew]

showman and parei arent too bad to sticker, it's just that you usually don't want to carry them around if there are alternatives because they actively hurt you a lot of the time

showman especially hurts you for stickering

reduces your odds of finding an unstickered joker

[exotic silo]

I tried to get Gros Michel yesterday, it survived for at most 2 rounds, which is very funny

[vale shale]

I'm surprised that something like golden ticket or steel joker needs that much priority

[exotic silo]

They have a condition to appear in the first place, so they are not as common as you might think

[modest mist]

Build of hopes and dreams 🙏

[pale wolf]

im glad michel didnt double extinct final round on this c++

[waxen quartz]

ticket is a common, should be lower than the other conditional jokers

[cloud sinew]

it is lower...

[modest mist]

Seriously, how do I improve this??

[pale wolf]

besides lucky cat it is

[vale shale]

I would like to think that rares are rarer than getting a tarot for the specific joker then getting the joker

Keyword would like to think so ok

[pale wolf]

and lucky cat is good enough that it carries stickers

[vale shale]

Don't flame me

[waxen quartz]

wraith exists, rare tag exists. there's only 20 of them

it's why I tended to prioritize uncommons and the foods

[cloud sinew]

what gives you that impression

[exotic silo]

yeah but I have all rares stickered rn lol, although these enhancement-centered jokers were almost equally as rare

almost

just me being an idiot most of the time tbh

[frank grove]

Given how many uncommons there are finding a specific one you need is really hard

[exotic silo]

Lads, is it time for Burglar to gain his sticker

[waxen quartz]

specific uncommon is about 1/200 of jokers you see

[pale wolf]

finding any rare at all is as hard as finding a specific uncommon (±10%)

[vale shale]

I keep seeing devils and chariots all throughout my games before ante 4 and I usually see the specific joker by ante 6-7

[waxen quartz]

any rare is 1/20 🙂

[exotic silo]

I love how I actually managed to get the Baron sticker by finding the one ante 8 build that it works with in Raised Fist/StM synergy

[waxen quartz]

specific rare is 1/400

[fading dome]

btw, do you mind me posting this in #1156061354076155944 just so people can find this easily in the future?

[tough bane]

im cooked right

[cloud sinew]

please do

[vale shale]

In my experience stickering steel and golden ticket wasn't much of a hassle than like baron

[idle vector]

sure

[cloud sinew]

thats likely because you prioritised them

[vale shale]

Because by the time I got steel or golden I was already late antes

[pale wolf]

no he owns that seed now

you cant post it

[cloud sinew]

turtle bean wasnt an issue both times for me specifically because I prioritised them

[vale shale]

No for some reason baron just didn't appear late antes

It just didn't appear whatsoever

[fading dome]

I'm taking Sen's seed, nothing he can do about it

[vale shale]

It was my luck it just didn't appear

[pale wolf]

the life of a bull 🥀

[vale shale]

But for some reason golden and steel did

[exotic silo]

probably the perfect start for eternal Burglar

[vale shale]

Baron wouldn't appear for like maybe 5 games

By the time it appeared it was early ante and I couldn't see much scoring

Then I'd lose

[frank grove]

For my first c++ my last was glass joker and it took so long to get

[modest mist]

Idk how to improve this 😔

[cloud sinew]

seeing it more often in the early antes is so far off from what is expected

[modest mist]

Like, I'm genuinely cooked

[pale wolf]

how does the power bank know that it needs to charge my phone instead of my phone charging it

[vale shale]

I expected to atleast show up

[cloud sinew]

power controller

[barren eagle]

Good game chat

[tame comet]

yes

[pale wolf]

no controllers, it's mobile

[cloud sinew]

it has a controller

[pale wolf]

only the screen

[cloud sinew]

okay twin

[pale wolf]

🦓

[cloud sinew]

it is magic

[warped drift]

i wish i could naneinf but i think this is the best i can do this run o7

[vale shale]

How does the brain know what our body is supposed to act and work yet doesn't tell us

[cloud sinew]

because you can't be trusted

[vale shale]

That's such a brain answer

[barren eagle]

[cloud sinew]

if you could only control your heartbeat consciously then you would die if you ever lost focus

also if you slept

[pale wolf]

if the only thing I could control consciously was my heartbeat then I would prefer dying

[barren eagle]

here's my seed

[frank grove]

Mr beast esk YouTube video idea

[cloud sinew]

esque

[exotic silo]

way too early(+rental 😭)

[barren eagle]

it'd probably die out before ante 8

[exotic silo]

after sucking out my econ, yes

[pale wolf]

i removed motor function from three HUNDRED participants in the worlds BIGGEST and most DRASTIC social/medical experiment ever!

[barren eagle]

gambling is such a beautiful thing

[cloud sinew]

also way too early for stickering nanner

[vale shale]

Evil mrbeast :

[pale wolf]

"evil mrbeast" is redundant

[modest mist]

[cloud sinew]

taking nanner now is not worth it considering if it pops (which it is very likely to do before the showdown blind) you cant find it for the rest of the run

[modest mist]

The ONE blind I didn't need

[barren eagle]

it's been a while since I played balatro, I hope I can recover my gambling skills

[pale wolf]

at the same time cavendish secures stickers too

[vale shale]

Is mrbeast actually evil or am I missing something

I never watched mrbeast since like 2021

[pale wolf]

just sell off purple joker for xmult or a retrigger

[cloud sinew]

he's pretty bad

[visual arch]

Negative throwback looks really cool:

[barren eagle]

find luchador or mr skull

[vale shale]

Isn't he a philanthropist

[pearl hinge]

Joker

[vale shale]

In terms of what bad

[barren eagle]

he'll throw you back as long as you keep skipping your blinds

[vale shale]

Like attitude bad or

[cloud sinew]

for entertainment, yes

[vale shale]

Overall bad

[cloud sinew]

morally

[vale shale]

Oh

[pale wolf]

philanthropy is a great way for rich evil people to make the masses think they're rich good people

[vale shale]

Yeah that's bad

[pearl hinge]

Very cool sprite unfortunately tied to the ability of Throwback

[cloud sinew]

for-profit charity 😭

[pale wolf]

run by their son

or wife
or brother
or whatever

[pearl hinge]

There's this one thing (maybe a tweet?) I saw that was like "if he really cared about the good things he was doing, he'd make the videos longer"

[pale wolf]

see also: carbon credits

[cloud sinew]

we love "offsetting" greenhouse gas emissions instead of reducing how much we actually release!

[pearl hinge]

In any case it's very clear Mr Beast is trying to Minmax YouTube which is saddening because it setting a standard for every other type of content

[exotic silo]

burglar run died to The Eye

[pale wolf]

say what you will about Mr Beast's personality and actions, but there is pretty much no way to criticize the actual video making process themselves; if there is a way they could be making more money he would have already been doing it

[pearl hinge]

Beast games is a whole other animal

[pale wolf]

he has YouTube algorithm to a science (if not just his fingers in the system itself)

[cosmic sun]

Mr. Beast said he was a One Piece fan and was immediately cast out as a larper because he is a fake person

[cloud sinew]

he doesnt really do much at this point tbf, almost everything he does is made by someone who he pays to come up with it

[pale wolf]

I highly doubt that he's not the main decision maker

The way he gets on podcasts and takes things personally when they get negative

[pearl hinge]

I think the problem is that he's trying to figure out that way to make more money and that, considering his status as No. 1 YouTube Guy, again sets a problematic standard

[cosmic sun]

Bro literally turned poverty into content

[cloud sinew]

orphan crushing machine moment

[heavy heron]

shudders… vampire

[pale wolf]

and to be fair mr beast came from essentially nothing

[heavy heron]

superposition isn’t as bad as i thought

but then again maybe it’s only because i have vampire

[pale wolf]

his viewership started from saying pewdiepie and other things 100k times

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt really matter though

[frank grove]

and filming homeless people and profiting 100x of it

[cloud sinew]

starting from nothing doesnt change anything about what youre currently doing

[heavy heron]

isn’t mr beast like a horrible person

[pale wolf]

i mean that his MO has been the same from the start, do anything it takes to capture an audience

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[pearl hinge]

You'd think that would make him less inclined to be a horrible individual because he would have known what it would have been like to have absolutely nothing but now he's just ragebaiting homeless people on Irl squid games

[pale wolf]

And I also mean that he's not overly lazy or unmotivated

[knotty zodiac]

ante 2 investment ig

[pale wolf]

i think he still probably works a lot

he doesn't have to but I think he still would

[frank grove]

I mean he’s made basically the same video twice in the same 2 months 😭

[pearl hinge]

Which one is that?

I'm not caught up on the Beast Lore

[fading dome]

he does kinda seem like the guy that doesn't relax a lot

[valid plover]

Balatro

[pale wolf]

blatro

[pale wolf]

if you widen the goalposts enough the past 8 years of his content is all the same 3 videos over and over

its a winning formula

[pearl hinge]

I mean yeah, that I gathered

[frank grove]

I just went to his channel 😭

[knotty zodiac]

mr beast balatro challenge

players are tied upside down and fed exclusively with feastables. players must win gold stake gauntlet controlling the game with only their nose. anyone who sleeps before completing the challenge is eliminated

[pale wolf]

he just developed reality show competitions for youtube

[frank grove]

I meant to crop the second 😭

[pale wolf]

figured out how to market them best towards children, etc

[fading dome]

Looks like an issue with your filter btw? output is how many black holes are in a single one of the first 4 booster packs

C:\Users\_\Downloads\Immolate>Immolate.exe -f "showman_double_hole" -s "AAAAC2RJ" -n 1
Immolate Beta v1.0.1f.1
Building program...
Starting searcher...
AAAAC2RJ (2)

C:\Users\_\Downloads\Immolate>Immolate.exe -f "showman_double_hole" -s "AAALHDQM" -n 1
Immolate Beta v1.0.1f.1
Building program...
Starting searcher...
AAALHDQM (2)

[pale wolf]

probably smods filter 🦓

[cloud sinew]

???

[fading dome]

wtf does that mean zebra

[pale wolf]

the filter was steammodded
it modded the filter with steam

😇

[cloud sinew]

long filter(instance* inst) {
    pack buffoonPack = pack_info(next_pack(inst, 1));
    item jokers[4];
    buffoon_pack(jokers, buffoonPack.size, inst, 1);
    bool showmanFound = false;
    for (int i = 0; i < buffoonPack.size; i++) {
        if (jokers[i] == Showman) {
            showmanFound = true;
        }
    }
    if (!showmanFound) return 0;

    pack celestialPack = pack_info(next_pack(inst, 1));
    if (celestialPack.type != Celestial_Pack) return 0;

    item cards[5];
    celestial_pack(cards, celestialPack.size, inst, 1);
    int blackHoles = 0;
    for (int i = 0; i < celestialPack.size; i++) {
        if (cards[i] == Black_Hole) blackHoles++;
    }
    return blackHoles >= 2 ? blackHoles : 0;
}

[fading dome]

Lilo

[cloud sinew]

what is up

[fading dome]

did you not set showman to true?

[cloud sinew]

ohhhhhh

[fading dome]

inst->params.showman = true;

I'm cryin

[cloud sinew]

my baddddddddd

in my defense, i never ruled out my filter as the issue and earlier i asked if you would check it over

and i asked in the seeds discord

[fading dome]

Yea I know you good

[pale wolf]

what lilo was looking for

[cosmic sun]

Oh god feastables

Well probably better than taking your chances with moldy lunchly cheese

[fading dome]

The fact that we couldn't find a single image of double black hole was also a crazy coincidence

[pale wolf]

introducing my new line of bento style prepacked lunches, Inedibles!

[valid plover]

im new to the game, what are some good strategies

ive mostly been relying on spamming flushes

[cloud sinew]

not a single message where someone had a seed of it happening either

until today

😭

[tame comet]

quite literally what im doing rn hello fellow twin /silly

[pale wolf]

hold money for interest, up to $25
pairs are the most consistent hand, being easy to draw and having lots of hand size left over for value generation
blue seals are very powerful
don't skip, it's almost never worth it

[fading dome]

also, there's a balatro seed discord?

[pale wolf]

news to me but unsurprising news

[cloud sinew]

https://discord.gg/D8XqfXKx

[pale wolf]

@ mods

[fading dome]

Apply to join?? smh

[pale wolf]

lmfao I didn't even know that was a feature on Discord

[cloud sinew]

it's a sigma feature

[valid plover]

ty

pairs arent really worth a lot tho

[pale wolf]

I also like that the question for what platform you play on is a multiple choice with only one answer allowed

there's definitely nobody that plays on more than one platform right

[cloud sinew]

nope

[fading dome]

it's PENDING? no wonder I didn't know about it before lmao

[pale wolf]

loud incorrect buzzer
watch balatro University for some good beginner playlists and hundreds of examples of high stakes gameplay

[cloud sinew]

@waxen quartz

[valid plover]

is #1155557846805643434 for mod ideas or is this an official server and the devs listen to the community

[cloud sinew]

this is the official server, localthunk doesn't really read suggestions

[fading dome]

Pairs by themselves aren't that good, but they probably have the best joker support out of all the hands

[pale wolf]

The channel was first created a long time ago when the game was still in active development and thunk actually looked at it for ideas for the game, now it is just a holdover for fun suggestions/game threads

[valid plover]

ah alright

[valid plover]

i havent unlocked much jokers so far

[fading dome]

Yeah that's fair

[pale wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1451672219317960866
plug for my suggestions thread that by all rights would probably be better as a mods thread, if i only had the ability/plans to make it one

thats the main difference; capability

[fading dome]

Getting the interest from holding $25 consistently is probably the best thing you can do if you weren't doing that already though

[valid plover]

ok ill save my cash

ty

[bright fog]

i did smth fun

[tough bane]

what happens when i ankh the sixth sense and play a 6?

[cloud sinew]

you get one spectral

[tough bane]

do i get 2 spectrals?

[cloud sinew]

its an inconsistency that i dont like

[tough bane]

this also gives me nothing right

[opal fiber]

The temptation to type in the ceremonial dagger channel is strong

[fading dome]

It gives you a spectral

[tough bane]

wait really? its debuffed tho

[fading dome]

doesn't matter

[opal fiber]

I do wonder how many of those banned acc are actually bots

[cloud sinew]

almost all of them

[pale wolf]

It's getting to the point where I feel like the wiki could have a section for each card effect joker on how it interacts with debuffed cards

[opal fiber]

really?

[fading dome]

(Also all of this should be on sixth sense's wiki page https://balatrowiki.org/w/Sixth_Sense)

[opal fiber]

thats suprising

[cloud sinew]

huge

[opal fiber]

I thought at least a quarter of them would be people also tempted by the will to chat in there

[cloud sinew]

that was the only issue

[dawn summit]

damn

[pale wolf]

i mean who knows

I don't think the mods unban people if they get banned by dagger

[dawn summit]

its a more fun way to leave i guess

[opal fiber]

they dont

[hearty tusk]

we do get a warning, so

actions have consequences

[opal fiber]

they made it so tempting to chat in there

there are no messages

[cloud sinew]

it loads as the first channel too

[pale wolf]

also does this just instaban you or does it reveal dagger?

[opal fiber]

👀

[pale wolf]

likely in an attempt to ban as early as possible

[tough bane]

this too?

[cloud sinew]

woahhhh 3 black hole seed first shop found

[pale wolf]

god forbid the bot dev just reverses the order it sends in channels

[ancient tapir]

Guys how good is this?? (First time was playing with Wee joker)

[fading dome]

I promise you it's on the wiki page

[tough bane]

ok lol

[opal fiber]

wee joker is now big joker

[pale wolf]

this wont lol

its psychic

[clear mulch]

if i get soul i lose +1 mult

[fading dome]

A lot (if not all) of the individual joker pages should already specify how they interact with debuffed cards

There's also https://balatrowiki.org/w/Negative_Effects#Debuffed, but that doesn't really talk about individual cases and more in broad strokes

[waxen quartz]

good it was figured out. I don't know if pifreak posted results on his multiple soul search, think he got more than the one 5 soul pack that was known

[opal fiber]

I really want my soul joker

still have not gotten one

[cloud sinew]

NOOOO it doesnt work because its 3 wide and it checks the first 5 cards... shit

time to fix

[fading dome]

Hold on Lilo let me send you what my filter does

[pale wolf]

the first one i thought of with an unclear answer didnt have mention

but also, Even if it did, it's the sort of thing that I have to search in the page to be sure I didn't just miss, rather than having a dedicated section

[fading dome]

I mean, it probably wouldn't have a dedicated section, just an entry in the Usage Notes

[pale wolf]

I think it should be a consistent place for any interaction with debuffed cards

whether obvious or not (provided it interacts with playing cards ofc)

I'm pondering

it seems like one of the main things you would go to a wiki page for

[fading dome]

hmm I really thought the wiki had more stuff about debuffed interactions on individual pages

maybe it's only guaranteed to have it if it doesn't work in the player's favor?

[clear mulch]

dude wtf

[uneven moon]

i am in pain give me my photograph please :[

[uneven moon]

sell that banana

[clear mulch]

nuh uh

[pale wolf]

maybe at the end of my work day ill Go through and add "Not affected by debuff blinds" to usage notes of various jokers

[cloud sinew]

there's already a debuffed section on negative effects, you could just expand that with every debuff interaction

[pale wolf]

also i noticed that the wiki is lacking a copypasta section, its like it doesnt even care about the community

🦓

[fading dome]

I'd phrase it as "Not affected when playing cards are debuffed" or something since Double or Nothing/Crimson Heart exist, but yeah that's good

[pale wolf]

yea it'd be more verbose and appropriate than what i put

the quotation marks were uhhh expressive

[pale wolf]

jimboscape

[viral raft]

ts looks like a minecraft flat world with jimbos instead of grass

[clear mulch]

How come Canio spawned? It's already gold stickered

[full rune]

Okay now do the non-euclidean Jimboscape

[pale wolf]

The game doesn't change how souls work, it just filters the seed so the first soul you open has an unstickered

subsequent souls have no guarantee

[ruby vessel]

I’m playing golden needle so I need to one shot every blind. Is it worth rerolling the boss blind idk if I can win if it disables my photograph. But I also straight up lose if I hit the plant

[clear mulch]

ah okee

[full rune]

Will plant even spawn on ante 8?

[ruby vessel]

Oh I didn’t know they’re ante specific ig I’ll check the wiki

I thought it was just one pool

[clear mulch]

on ante 8 only finisher boss blinds spawn

[ruby vessel]

Oh sweet

[full rune]

But

You might get

All cards disabled

Until you sell a joker

[ruby vessel]

Then I just sell business card. The 1.5 x mult isn’t doing too much

[orchid dove]

John balatro posted my art

[valid plover]

look at this joker combo

[ruby vessel]

That’s huge congrats man

[full rune]

True

[orchid dove]

50k followers, my god

The only funny thing

[cloud sinew]

at best they only lose 1.5x with crimson every other hand, while at worst they lose way more than that

[ruby vessel]

Omg ur famous 😆. R u like a professional or just a hobbyist

The exposure gonna go crazy

[full rune]

High Priestess no exhaust clouds, what is dis

[orchid dove]

This art isnt mine, just maked fun of it because the bad quality

[valid plover]

https://medal.tv/games/balatro/clips/mMX576uh9W26vBVoJ?invite=cr-MSxzdDgsNTEyMDE2MTY0 IM ONLY JUST FINDING OUT THE POTENTIAL OF MULT CARDS

LOOK AT THIIISSS

[orchid dove]

This is my "The lovers" actual art

[viral raft]

i like the bull one

🔥

[ruby vessel]

I finally beat golden needle :>

Didn’t realize I should’ve been copying photograph my score shot way up

[full rune]

Heh heh

[tough bane]

just spamming 3x bro

[spiral cairn]

you cant be serious

[pale wolf]

lol

[tough bane]

this is the glitched seed right

[pale wolf]

upscale your images like 3x minimum if you don't want them to be blurry on Discord

[spiral cairn]

yes

[pale wolf]

nearest neighbor

[spiral cairn]

all 10s of spades

gg

[clear mulch]

SAYORI NOOOOOOO

[viral raft]

Misprint tho

lowk fire

[viral raft]

it's a large height png so the X3 it's not going to help too much

2840 x 6080 already damn

[pale wolf]

???

[stark charm]

We need more yuri Balatro skin y’all

[valid plover]

https://medal.tv/games/balatro/clips/mMXhctvGhFNF8XkLP?invite=cr-MSwxeGYsNTEyMDE2MTY0 41 MILLION

[cloud sinew]

41 MILLION

[viral raft]

this one

seems blurry but is because of the height

[visual arch]

is the second hand size voucher unlock bugged? i have stuntman + merry andy and nothing is happening

[viral raft]

how much is your current hand size rn?

[visual arch]

it was 5

i now used ectoplasm and it's now 4

[viral raft]

see collection

[tranquil cedar]

balatro inception

[viral raft]

damn

[visual arch]

Like, what???

[viral raft]

? that's weird

[visual arch]

I've unlocked every other voucher just fine

[versed sable]

i've been seeing a lot of people get this issue lately

[viral raft]

it suppose to appear when you start a run with 5 hand size

[versed sable]

my best guess is that stuntman doesn't count for it for some reason

[viral raft]

maybe when you end run?

[ruby vessel]

Do u have to finish the run that’s what I did?

[versed sable]

or that yeah

[visual arch]

Guess I'll finish the run then...

[barren spire]

Beat purple stakes 🙂

[viral raft]

well done

[barren spire]

Time for orange

[viral raft]

good luck! perishables suck

[ruby vessel]

Hate getting perishable gros michel and it perishes before going extinct

[viral raft]

atleast works to get Sticker value

but besides that, yeah is a pain in the ass

specially when it was Rental

[barren spire]

Blueprint in round one 🙁

But its perishable

And i cant afford

[viral raft]

it's a baitg

just go buffon pack 4$

[barren spire]

Ok

Ty

Ooh

Spectral pack too

[viral raft]

round?

[barren spire]

But I only have 7 dollars 🙁

[barren spire]

1

[viral raft]

don't

[orchid dove]

I will mantain "The Lovers" as just the plain template, dont want to do meta-jokes in my repainted mod

[viral raft]

spectrals are mostly baits

[barren spire]

Ok thanks

[viral raft]

the only one worth is immolate

which is 1/18

[barren spire]

Is that the one that makes a negative but gets rid of a hand slot?

[viral raft]

it's the 20$ destroy 5 cards

great for early/mid runs

[barren spire]

Ohh

Ok

[viral raft]

the best is just go buffon, then in round 8 go next or buy a joker who is worth taking

[barren spire]

Mail in rebate but its eternal 🙁

[full rune]

Sigh, black deck is unfun

[viral raft]

100% worth it

[barren spire]

Oh

Ok cool

Even on abandoned deck?

[viral raft]

EVEN BETTER

[barren spire]

But what if it wants a face card?

[viral raft]

no?

[full rune]

It wont

[viral raft]

rebate choose cards in your deck

[barren spire]

Ohhh

Wow

[viral raft]

that's why it's so op

[full rune]

Like idol

[barren spire]

That makes it even better than I thought it was

[viral raft]

you can deckfix around rebat

[viral raft]

yep

abandoned had less cards so...

it's way easier to get thoses ranks

[barren spire]

That's peak

I love abandoned

[viral raft]

yep

[full rune]

You mean I shouldnt be adding face cards to my abandoned deck??

[viral raft]

the only bad thing about Abandoned is that doesn't works well with Canio

besides that is easily one of the best decks

[barren spire]

I took the all cards are face cards with abandoned once for funnies

[viral raft]

why would you do that 😭😭

[full rune]

I won with it ONCE and it was a silly run

[full rune]

Aformmentioned fun

[viral raft]

Faces are overrated

most of jokers don't need faces

so yeah

[barren spire]

🤣 🤣

[viral raft]

abandoned is basically free deckfix

[elfin scaffold]

How do I get a suit next to my name

[barren spire]

Fr

[full rune]

Orly

[viral raft]

what?

[elfin scaffold]

Thx

[full rune]

I used ur guide +1

[frank grove]

It’s not bad to add faces but you usually don’t need them

[viral raft]

no problem !

[barren spire]

Hey cant destroy eternals right?

[viral raft]

nop!

nothing can't destroy eternal

[barren spire]

Cool

Oh

[viral raft]

things like Madness, Hex, Ankh works pretty well with this

[barren spire]

It landed on the eternal lol

[full rune]

You dont know about o rly owl?

Am oldge :(

[viral raft]

tbh i don't really know what are you saying

this ball is too niche to me

[elfin scaffold]

I have changed my identity

[full rune]

Oh no a bloodstone enjoyer

[viral raft]

👀

who are you

[elfin scaffold]

Dauntless

[viral raft]

no idea 😭

[barren spire]

Should i skip for investment tag on round one?

[exotic pike]

i love bloodstone

[viral raft]

depends but most of the time yeaaah

[barren spire]

Bet

[elfin scaffold]

I jsutasked you how to get the suit tag

[barren spire]

Money pretty peak

[viral raft]

oh yeah

i thought you weren't maggy because the old messages didn't changed

[elfin scaffold]

I don't see that green heart what's that

[viral raft]

is from pc

means a new person in the server

[versed sable]

ye
iirc it lasts for a week

[elfin scaffold]

So knowledgeable

[barren spire]

It means your new to the server

Only shows on pc tho

[viral raft]

yeah

[barren spire]

BANNNNAAAAAAANNNNAAA

YEAAAAHHHHH

[viral raft]

hey Weon are you from Chile?

[barren spire]

No

[viral raft]

idk the name seems like you're from there

[elfin scaffold]

Gross Micheal can be better than Cavendish early game

[visual arch]

Okay I beat ante 8 with 5 hand size. Still no hand size voucher... why

[elfin scaffold]

Captain obvious

[viral raft]

Seeded run?

i don't see any reason why

[visual arch]

Nope

[viral raft]

just debug mode mate 😭

[visual arch]

Only reason is mods are enabled but EVERYTHING else unlocks so why not this one

how do i debug mode

[elfin scaffold]

You don't have to beat ante 8

[viral raft]

debug mode

[barren spire]

It was just a random 4 didget name I found for Minecraft like 5 or 6 years ago and I turned it into most of my users 😂

[viral raft]

search for the mod

[full rune]

Not bad not bad

[visual arch]

i'm not about to debug the game for not working smh

there's gotta be something

[elfin scaffold]

I'll do it faster what's the name of the website

[barren spire]

Ooh what's that?

[visual arch]

maybe i'm supposed to purchase the hand size voucher first

[full rune]

https://www.balatrodle.com/

[viral raft]

deep

weon actually means something in Chile

[median grove]

am i screwed? i havent gotten mime in 17 antes

what are the chanes

[full rune]

Unfortunate

[stark charm]

I have an idea

Neft flower pot to x1.5 because it is simply too overpowered

[barren spire]

What does it mean?

Is it something bad...

[median grove]

WHAT do i sell for mime?

dna?

[ebon condor]

no

[full rune]

It means dude or bro

[versed sable]

depends if you wanna do bean glitch ante 24

i think

[barren spire]

Oh cool

[versed sable]

keeping dna is the safer play though for sure

[full rune]

But it might not be as simple as that

[barren spire]

Is heiroglyph good?

[elfin scaffold]

Shoulda guessed this sooner tbh

[full rune]

Lawnmower balatro

[median grove]

i dont know what that means

[cloud sinew]

SPOILERS

[full rune]

Omg spoiler this

[cloud sinew]

for most of the game it's a detriment to your econ, scoring ability, and deck digging

[pale wolf]

thanks idiot

now nobody gets to guess

[knotty zodiac]

where's my bull

[pale wolf]

🥀 ruined

[full rune]

He ruined wordle for chat 😭

[barren spire]

So bad?

[cloud sinew]

generally yeah

[barren spire]

Hehe im not scrolling up

[full rune]

Tbf there a lot of similar ones in that pool

[knotty zodiac]

$256 tribe let's go

[viral raft]

alot of stuff, weon is actually very well used on our country, weon kinda means someone who is stupid or a moron, don't worries, we also use it as a way to greet someone that you trust

so weon basically have two sides
the good one (used to greet someone or you use it to someone that you trust to name it like that)
the bad one (you're basically saying to someone that is a moron)

[full rune]

This is your opening hand in round 1. What do you do

[viral raft]

theres also wea, which is weon but used on objects

"que es esta wea" = "what is this sh!t"

[cosmic sun]

4oak angle

[barren spire]

Ngl I actually really like the idiot meaning 😂 not a ton of people will understand it but now i know my username has been either calling myself an idiot or greeting someone I trust

Thank you!

[celest cobalt]

i hate mouth

[visual arch]

any solutions to hand size voucher unlock bug?

[barren spire]

The guess took me 12 trys 🤣 🤣 I didnt relize I could see how many letters it was

[full rune]

Lol you get that after you match allcategories

[barren spire]

Ohhhh

[viral raft]

yep, you can use it as a way of insult ig 😭

also theres wn

which is basically the same but without vocals

easy to type

wn

[full rune]

Nice

[cloud sinew]

just thought of a cool deck idea or a cool voucher idea

[tawdry epoch]

i got a ton of cash but didnt see anything worth taking other than justice and planets which was enough

[barren spire]

W idea

[full rune]

Humble Pie joker wen

[cloud sinew]

Unused hands are also converted to discards for the next round

[viral raft]

mmmm seems like pretty well balanced or the most broken shit ever

[cloud sinew]

how would it be broken

[viral raft]

idk, pretty good agaisnt bosses

you could one shot big blind then boss blind is a discard spam round

[frail brook]

Yippeeeeee i did it

[tawdry epoch]

portable merry andy

[stark acorn]

discard the hearts to attempt and get a straight flush

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt answer the question

[stark acorn]

pretty sure the flush already wins anyway but you have the discards

[cosmic sun]

Lowkey sounds like people would hit some extra interest and then use the extra hands with hand scalers next round with that deck

[full rune]

You are rewarded, here is your prize

[cloud sinew]

wasting discards is bad

[viral raft]

i just think that depending on the boss and jokers can be really strong you know?

tbh idk

[limpid torrent]

i thought if i sold everything i would end up with 400

[viral raft]

i think is cool

[cloud sinew]

it seems like it would have a niche, doesnt seem like it would be really oppressive

[light oak]

would it be a smart decision to take baron for photo?

[cloud sinew]

also it rewards high hands which is cool

[stark acorn]

on ante 1 small blind?

[tender quarry]

Sounds weak if anything

[frail brook]

Tribe joker here i come

[cloud sinew]

yes. you dont gain anything by overscoring

[full rune]

Baron without mime?

[cloud sinew]

you make garbage tag worse by wasting discards unnecessarily

[light oak]

this is the 4th baron of the run, I've already seen 3 mimes, I'm confident that I'll find a mime

[stark acorn]

when the actual FUCK am I taking garbage tag

[viral raft]

yeah, but as a deck? i think may be kinda weak because most of the time you will use all your hands to minmax, dig in the deck, scaling jokers, etc.

i think as a voucher it may be cool

[tender quarry]

She is technically correct

But also I genuinely think it is not worth the brainpower to think about garbage tag

[full rune]

If you didnt take straight flush, your outcome is this

[cloud sinew]

it works better as a voucher for sure

[tawdry epoch]

[cloud sinew]

i'm right though

[bright fog]

anaglyph deck might be broken

[tawdry epoch]

who is taking garbage tag

[tender quarry]

But there are times where you might incidentally take a garbage tag while skipping for another reason

[cloud sinew]

there is no benefit to scoring more here

and there is a downside to using more discards than you need to

[stark acorn]

cool flame effect

[full rune]

There is, because that's free hands gold

[cloud sinew]

what

[viral raft]

yep, and his second voucher maybe something like= each hand remains is +1$

[cloud sinew]

the hand already wins

[full rune]

One hand win = 3 gold

[marble wasp]

it’s me

[viral raft]

so you get also more money value to save thoses hands

[cloud sinew]

and the hand already wins

[tender quarry]

Or, even in the small blind ante 2 if for some reason the garbage tag is like $4 and you have almost no money that can also be worth taking garbage tag for the actual merit of garbage tag

[full rune]

No, the flush is short

[cloud sinew]

no it isnt

it's exactly 40 chips

[marble wasp]

mainly late game if I’ve been running a very particular hand the entire time and am short on cash. It’s a very situational tag

[full rune]

I think my game counts wrong

[limpid torrent]

nvm i managed to get 400 before i lost i scored a lucky card in the round

[cloud sinew]

6+7=13
8+13 = 21
9+21 = 30
30+10 = 40
40+35x4 = 300

[full rune]

But then you still have to take a garbage tag

[tawdry epoch]

67

[bright fog]

yay

[cloud sinew]

sure

but it's something to consider when you get no benefit from using more discards

[full rune]

Trutru

Good insight thanks

I cant count, you see

[cloud sinew]

the only argument in favour of using more discards in that situation would have been if you cared about scoring a straight flush over a flush for supernova, obelisk or telescope for some reason, or there was Pillar ante 1 and you cared about which cards became debuffed

[full rune]

Cant remember which boss it was and the other arguments are iffy

So next time I will count my cards lol

Instead of going high numbers good

[limpid gate]

Same

[fading dome]

Well yeah, obviously you'd see your own comments smh

[limpid gate]

Not if I was blind

[full rune]

Is it worth it to always take a double tag

[cloud sinew]

it's also useful to consider for bigger blinds; maybe scoring more chips for 1 hand and discarding 3 cards for it
vs
scoring less chips for 1 hand, but being able to discard 5 cards for the next hand

[cloud sinew]

no

[frank grove]

Do you mean from skipping or from selling colas

[cloud sinew]

either way it's still a no

[modest mist]

Yes

[full rune]

This is where I am at now

[cloud sinew]

😭

you double skipped for NOTHING

[full rune]

I knoooowww

[modest mist]

Is THIS a valid use for double skipping if it means $50?

It's free econ, so...

[cloud sinew]

i would have only skipped once there unless you have seed money / money tree

[frank grove]

It’s not free

[livid scroll]

you keep them for voucher skips if you're going for high scores, otherwise you generally don't take double tags

[cloud sinew]

its not free

[fiery nymph]

its not free

[cloud sinew]

you lost 2 shops, 2 rounds of econ, 2 rounds of scaling, etc

[modest mist]

2 rounds of "i ain't reading allat"

[fiery nymph]

1 sentence

[full rune]

Ya and now do I just white knuckle lock in or new Game it

[modest mist]

It's money 🤑

[full rune]

Black deck is hard for me :c

[cloud sinew]

black deck is hard

but it's even harder if you take 2 double tags ante 1 lol

[livid scroll]

life is about trying: even when things look bad, any effort is never wasted if it can fix everything

[full rune]

BUT POPCORN AND DAGGER

[livid scroll]

dagger could maybe even work

[tawdry epoch]

bless me with your presence canio

[cloud sinew]

not ante 2 small blind

[full rune]

Yeah it would be a popcorn pick

But my econ is shit

[cloud sinew]

i wonder why

[tawdry epoch]

it was chicot

[full rune]

And these are the next tags, soooo

New Game :3

[livid scroll]

why would you care about tags either way tho

[full rune]

Rare joker chances

Early

[livid scroll]

you see, generally you only skip for emergencies n shit

all you need is in the shops

[cloud sinew]

rare jokers are generally really not that useful early

~1/3 are, the rest are not

[livid scroll]

and, of course, in your heart

[full rune]

I am baby, I only have one gold stake completion 😭

[livid scroll]

if you want, you can improove and make that two

[full rune]

Ya chat helps

Ty chat

[pale wolf]

so what even is the wheel of fortune

[full rune]

I am throwing things at the wall to win black deck :c

[severe plinth]

guys do I buy this? I think so

[pale wolf]

like i get its a metaphysical representation of destiny and fate but is it the "spin the wheel and it lands on your lot in life" kinda thing or is it something different

[full rune]

I think you have it right

Its more complex than orange green 80/20 tho

(Stardew Fair)

[turbid nova]

merry andrew activities

[bleak bolt]

forgot to copy the burger before the boss and got so scared

[barren spire]

Ante 2 with perishable stencil do i buy mega bafoon pack?

[cloud sinew]

it refers to the zodiac

which is the plane that the constellations lie on

[bleak bolt]

erratic is finally done tho

[full rune]

So each planet has its own zodiac wheel

[pale wolf]

so you're born during a certain sector of the wheel

[tawdry epoch]

super secret bull bootstraps meta

[graceful schooner]

Looking pretty damn good if I get some sxoring besides scary face

[hearty tusk]

long time no see

[severe plinth]

coach, please teach me your methods!

[hearty tusk]

no no no no no no, he aint coachin you ECHMIDT

[severe plinth]

idk much balatro 😭

[graceful schooner]

Sup

[severe plinth]

Echmidt?

[graceful schooner]

So bro I got 2 souls back to back

[hearty tusk]

i did too

[cloud sinew]

BALALA

[graceful schooner]

This abulity isn't easily gained

[hearty tusk]

3 souls, actually in 2 consecutive runs

[severe plinth]

WHAT

how???

[graceful schooner]

2 runs

[knotty zodiac]

the ante 8 run deck so far

[hearty tusk]

balol

bol

balal

baal

[full rune]

Oh balala banana

[hearty tusk]

beezlebub

[tawdry epoch]

Billions of funds gone into "Bull", but no reason ever found to go beyond "Wee Joker"!

[full rune]

How come wheel of fortune is always a but banana always eats itself 😭

[viral raft]

Blackboard's dream (ignore blueprint)

[tawdry epoch]

you arent spinning the wheel every round
well maybe i am but you shouldnt be

[full rune]

It eats itself after one round more often than it sticks around for two 😭

[tawdry epoch]

youve been cursed by localthunk ig

[full rune]

Did you disable boss blind

[viral raft]

Yes

[valid plover]

how pro balatro players look at you when you don't play on 8x speed

[full rune]

Balatro pro players get the homelander ending

[viral raft]

Any mentally right balatro player:

Even average player plays on x4

[bleak bolt]

im about to see sooo many buffoons

[ebon condor]

i really should be playing on x2 i just got lazy

[full rune]

You dont use them for econ????

[knotty zodiac]

<< plays on 4x
runs still take 2h

gggg

[bleak bolt]

havent seen one econ skip

[viral raft]

Naaah 2h is alot 😭

[valid plover]

i play on 2x because i like the anticipation of the different effects piling up

[viral raft]

My runs take between 20-40 min

[full rune]

No money tag AT ALL??

[tardy dust]

Balarto

[knotty zodiac]

i like to thiiiink xD

[bleak bolt]

no

always some dogshit like mega celestial and reroll boss

[full rune]

you are the cursed one

Not I

[knotty zodiac]

and chat

[tardy dust]

Should've skipped for mega celestial

[full rune]

Mega buffon is going to be mostly wasted

[livid scroll]

take the voucher skip instead

[full rune]

Unless you sell every joker you find

Thats cursed econ

[tardy dust]

Photochad brainstorm blueprint in the buffoon pack skip

[bleak bolt]

im gonna die this ante either way

[full rune]

Poor nate

[tawdry epoch]

what gs should i do after zodiac

other than black

[tardy dust]

Mmhhmm

Do u have nebula

[bleak bolt]

im fucking killing nate

[tranquil steppe]

Interesting setup

[tardy dust]

X mult coming from hopes and dreams

[pale wolf]

ALL HAIL :blatrospade:

[bleak bolt]

i think ive only seen vampire

[tranquil otter]

holy peeak

[tardy dust]

Have I seen you somewhere?

[pale wolf]

2 mutual servers

[tardy dust]

No red seal, skip for red card value

[graceful schooner]

Hold on

Actually

[livid scroll]

hallucination synergy

[graceful schooner]

Setup looking better and better

[umbral coyote]

Easy x mult Strat, you get two flat mult scaling jokers

[tardy dust]

Have I seen u in the other server we're mutuals in

[pale wolf]

you might've

i shitpost in terraria chat occasionally

[tranquil otter]

true

[tardy dust]

Probably

I goof around in terraria chat

[tranquil otter]

holy naneinf seed

[full rune]

[tardy dust]

W or L

[tranquil otter]

if thats not ghost deck PLEASE build for seance bro i beg you

[livid scroll]

easy hone take

[tranquil otter]

you gotta make the strush seance build

[tardy dust]

Chad thinks he's part of the team 😭

[tranquil otter]

baron thinks hes part of the team 😭

[tardy dust]

Perkeo thinks he's part of the team 😭

[tranquil otter]

cuz he is

[full rune]

I wish I was part of the team :c

[graceful schooner]

He gone now

[south cobalt]

Just give me some x mult man

[graceful schooner]

Dna finna print me some Red kings

[tranquil otter]

PLEASE sell baron PLEASE

i beg you bro

baron is so bait at that point in the run

does absolutely nothting

you gotta trust in the seance build

seance is the goat baron is bait as we all know and can agree

[viral raft]

relax, he's blocking baron so theres more chances of better rares!

he's just blocking rares you know?

[livid scroll]

imagine if they buffed perkeo to give 2x mult for every triggered card

[tranquil otter]

what other rares bro

maybe vagabond

'id sell baron for vagabond

[full rune]

In what world is campfire good

[south cobalt]

Do i buy anything here

[tranquil otter]

anyy run where your only goal is to beat ante 8

[graceful schooner]

Bro

[fallow shadow]

enough

[livid scroll]

in the world of liquidation gold stake

[viral raft]

well, obviusly theres alot of good rares in this game! theres...blueprint, brainstorm....uh....blueprint?...brainstorm...OH, yeah! Obelisk tho!

[fallow shadow]

ban all ragebait

[graceful schooner]

This was me yesterday

Praying for a baron

[flat warren]

Not exactly what I wanted to do but we will see how long this lasts 😂

[full rune]

Is not ragebait sorry

[graceful schooner]

Haven't seen one in 19 antes

[earnest flame]

What do you think makes campfire not good

[tranquil otter]

maybe you wold have found the baron if you had an actual economy engine

[fallow shadow]

its ragebait

[full rune]

I dont have a lot of opportunities to sell cards most of the time

[viral raft]

literally in any econ generator and in ante 7-8 is free win

[valid plover]

dumb boss blind idea
the uno

at the start of each turn, a random non-special card is placed down. this card does not give chips.

the cards you play must all match that card's suite or value.

[livid scroll]

maybe he had all gold cards until at a certain point rerolls didn't give anything and had to pivot to steel cards to survive

[tranquil otter]

rerolls dont have to give you shit to survive

[full rune]

So it is a late stage joker only?

Dint pick it up early?

[tranquil otter]

you can go like ante 15+ with only glass and sock

[viral raft]

"econ generator and..."

[tranquil otter]

pick it up early and hold it

doesnt do too much early on but you hold it so you have it later

its powerful enough to be worth doing that

[full rune]

On every deck?

[tranquil otter]

more or less

decks dont really change it too much

at lesat in a negative way

[viral raft]

Campfire is great with:
Jokers: any tarot generator and astronomer
Vouchers: Tarot/Planet Merchant and Tycoon, Clearense sale and liquidation

theres alot of options to make Campfire good

[full rune]

Thanks, I'll make you pancakes

[tranquil otter]

dont forget about litterally anything that gives you money lol

also planet merchant is probably not worth getting just for campfire scaling

[viral raft]

any money generator helps in anything so...

[tranquil otter]

not really

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[tranquil otter]

like maybe super indirectly

but you cant buy mult on your groker

[viral raft]

Money generator besides vagabonds are always good options

[earnest flame]

Then maybe its not the joker that is the problem most of the time

[livid scroll]

also clearance sale and liquidation i'd say

[cloud sinew]

any consumable in shop is an opportunity to sell a card

[viral raft]

true