🕹・game-discussion

[kind creek]

Should I wraith for a blueprint/brainstorm here? can't think of anything else that would help me
Vampire: 5.2
Hologram: 3.5

[rain temple]

5 new stickers

[patent sail]

i mwannnn not unreasonable but you might also get some garbage like Tribe

[tranquil cedar]

🥺

[heady river]

uhhhh i forgot i did this from when i enabled debug

balatro 2 confirmed?

[kind creek]

I either play full houses with king+queen or five of a kind kings
Since this is erratic I should have probably posted the deck

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156721486288126023/1508773019193966725/20BBF91.JPG?ex=6a16c1df&is=6a15705f&hm=3b5e2f6706377f99439dee80224c2081439728d44e42b2742073fa06b6cbe99d&

[spring radish]

real

[kind creek]

going for 80+ cards achivement

[patent sail]

my point still stands, youre not guaranteed to get bs/bp and might get something you dont need

tho id kill dna maybe since it doesnt do much

[kind creek]

I think a DNA build with hologram would be best for that

[patent sail]

ah well then

[kind creek]

Pass then

thanks

[heady river]

wanted to try that for a while

[patent sail]

the achievement?

[kind creek]

The mouth DNA value

not falling for that one today

[hearty tusk]

that would sound extremly wrong out of context

[kind creek]

True

[patent sail]

a lot of things in balatro are

dont even get me started on all the Wee puns

[hearty tusk]

oh my God, my wee is HUGE

[kind creek]

Stoning all the women, I know there's chips insode of them.
(uses tower on a queen)

[hearty tusk]

god fucking damn it

[frank grove]

and this guy

[patent sail]

w-wow... yoyr,,, your deck is pretty big

[hearty tusk]

dont fucking rp here its already bad 😭😭😭

[hearty tusk]

the BBC

[patent sail]

jimbo when he sees another hologram run

[kind creek]

I said "I have 3 glass cards in my deck" around that one friend once

[patent sail]

im just kidding dw twin,,,,,

[hearty tusk]

i cant say it with a straight face

[hearty tusk]

meknows, twin

[kind creek]

Impressive DNA, huh?

[patent sail]

hell yea

FOIL HIT

HELL YEA

i needed chips rn

[kind creek]

always wheel

[patent sail]

genuinely saved by that wheel rn

[celest cobalt]

is it normal to keep rerolling runs until you get a tag with mega arcane which has a soul card

[patent sail]

no

you need to be insane to do this for an extended period of time

[floral mural]

generally unless youre going for specific unlocks trying to just win with whatever you get is better

[patent sail]

just get brainstorm mod and filter out those seeds

[celest cobalt]

idk i just like legendary cards

and i almost never get them

[patent sail]

brainstorm mod can filter out just those seeds 🐎🔥🔥🔥🔥 unless youre on mobile then rip

[celest cobalt]

perkeo + ankh + blueprint + that one card which doubles leftmost ability

[celest cobalt]

im on mobile

[patent sail]

oh well

[faint hornet]

watching roffle with a *negative oops reroll on cat twice

[floral mural]

it sounds really cliche but its better to just find legendaries naturally than forcing an early one

[celest cobalt]

plus i wanna do a seedless run

[floral mural]

or use a seed worse case scenetio

youll just never improve if you never play a run which isnt a perfect start

[patent sail]

brainstorm mod doesnt give you seeds outright, only keeps rerolling seeds until it finds one with the selected criteria

[patent sail]

watching roffle*

[celest cobalt]

oh thats awesome

can i run apple arcade on pc

[heady river]

hope that worked

[patent sail]

run just died on final boss 🐎🔥🔥🔥

acorn of all things

[patent sail]

just make sure to not miss any commas and not change the actual keys of things when youre renaming/changing descriptions of stuff

[heady river]

I was sure not to

[kind creek]

I really want that mime but I have nothing to sell

[heady river]

the most i did was try to {C:red}help in eternals description

[patent sail]

im yet to change eternal to something funny but i changed perishable

[heady river]

great

didnt work for me sadly

[patent sail]

maybe theres more instances of it you missed

or didnt save

try doing the other method maybe if its none of those

[heady river]

I savedd through notepads file menu and used ctrl f to be sure to get other mentions

considering i also wanted to rename eternal itself

[patent sail]

yeahhh maybe try copying the file into localization folder method idk

[heady river]

whr was its dirctory again?

kyboard brakin

hlp

[patent sail]

appdata/roaming/balatro i think

[kind creek]

It begs me

[patent sail]

create localization folder in there if that doesnt exist

[heady river]

ty

[pure crystal]

Who should I replace with brainstorm?

[tawdry epoch]

hit the road is secretly goated (no)

[patent sail]

what is gem even doing

[pure crystal]

Nothing yet

[kind creek]

I would sell astronomer, then buy oops instead of smiley

[patent sail]

so kill gem

[kind creek]

10 dollars per flush

[pure crystal]

I was hoping it would be good later

[patent sail]

nothing for them

[kind creek]

oh

well then

[patent sail]

they arent using it

[kind creek]

gem is the best to kill

[pure crystal]

Ok

[kind creek]

wrathful and gem on the same build are no good anyway

[pure crystal]

Yeah

I’m hoping to get out of wrathful

[kind creek]

Do I buy that mime? most of my deck is gold

[patent sail]

absolutely

free money

kill dna

[kind creek]

you could do 4 spade numbers and 1 face at the end

[heady river]

here?

[kind creek]

I am going for 80 cards achivement

[patent sail]

standard packs

[kind creek]

I am sorry hologram... I have to feed my greed.

Mime bought

[civic phoenix]

waow i love getting ante 1 soul

[patent sail]

i think so one second

[heady river]

that would be where you saidd unless i missed something

[patent sail]

ill see where mine is

yeah does seem to be correct

[heady river]

immcache is from a mod I dont use anymore i believe

so you can ignore that

[patent sail]

thats where mine is so yup

[heady river]

I see so 1 is your save

[patent sail]

2 is my main save

[heady river]

2 3 too

makes sense

I got it then, thank you

[patent sail]

3 is my brothers save

1 is unlock all profile for doing stupid shit like trying mods

[heady river]

turns out i couldnt directly edit it in 7zip as it would save properly despite me doing so

i checked the file again and it was reverted

[patent sail]

weird, i had the same issue with winrar but i think person named papu on here was able to just fine

oh well

if this method works then its better probably

[heady river]

yep

[patent sail]

yay

[undone talon]

NOOOOOO

[undone talon]

the mime rly wants u

[patent sail]

die

wow and they really died!

it was all me and totally not the funny dagger channel

[stark karma]

They should add a troll variant on credit card called debit card which lets you go to -9 dollars so that if you’re one dollar off of the blueprint in shop you can super duper tilted

[patent sail]

they should add horse joker

[heady river]

so it worked butttt my save file exploded???????????????????????????

[patent sail]

?.?????

mine is fine????

what did you do???

[heady river]

i just

put the localization fil where you said

i dunno what happened but idrc

[patent sail]

you didnt touch ANYTHING else, right?

[heady river]

nope

[patent sail]

i have no idea how is that related

because for me that didnt cause any issues

[heady river]

im just gonna debug win my diamond stakes I had before and unlock all then

rip

[patent sail]

sorgy twin </3

[heady river]

np it probs aint on you

btw is this true or true

[patent sail]

i meannnn its not that horrible but it was kind of annoying to beat

2pair spam was the answer to this deck

[undone talon]

why did i get gay popcorn and natg neg COLA

[patent sail]

movie theater pack

[undone talon]

i have been taught how to do this

u js have to edit the .lua right

[undone talon]

LMAO

i js realised

[patent sail]

en-us.lua right

[undone talon]

yes

or whatever language u use

[patent sail]

yup

[heady river]

peak

[patent sail]

add line breaks 💔💔💔💔

[heady river]

too lazy

anyways time to fix whatvr the helli broke

[patent sail]

"This joker is",
"feeling rather EVIL", (yes you do need to add those manually balala is silly like that)

[heady river]

peace

[heady river]

OH i see

[patent sail]

its weird that you have to manually do them but its whatever

[pale wolf]

not that weird

[patent sail]

you DONT wanna see what i did to HTR

[heady river]

it makes sense from a coding pov

[pale wolf]

It's not like it was made to be user friendly

[heady river]

this too

[patent sail]

because localthunk is user EVIL

[pale wolf]

although maybe it would have made sense to automate that since there's like 250 descriptions in the game

Would have been developer friendly

[patent sail]

theres also old gold seal description still leftover in the localization file

[patent sail]

well i guess he never intended for mods to be made since

didnt he expect to sell like 3 copies of the game at first

[pale wolf]

certainly more than that but he didn't expect it to be bigger than most indie games

[frank grove]

yeah

[pale wolf]

but when I say developer friendly, I mean for thunk himself

it would have saved a lot of trial and error making Joker descriptions if it wasn't manual

[patent sail]

like i genuinely thought that linebreaks are automatic until i first tried looking at the files and stuff

[frank grove]

yeah, i wonder if he did anything to help with the development of 1.1 or not

[pale wolf]

My hopes are that there's a complete overhaul for modding api/custom challenge decks

[frank grove]

that would be really neat

[pale wolf]

but like I'm not expecting that

it would just be cool

[frank grove]

yeah i dont expect him to automate the line breaks either

[patent sail]

i should never be allowed to edit anything actually

showing up when i dont have shit to copy 😭

[heady river]

wait im gonna change jimbo to say he gives Xnaneinf mult

[karmic skiff]

This so beautiful 🥹

[pale wolf]

imagine believing in the psyop that thunk is 1 person

[patent sail]

he is 200 tiny jimbos in a trenchcoat

[patent sail]

got card sharp run is getting winned

and foil c2???

free

[heady river]

oh no they are alphabetically sorted how did i miss that

[patent sail]

i like how he just did that

[heady river]

oh btw he did it wrong too

canio is before campfire

[patent sail]

unforgiveable sin

delete the game

it will never be saved

[heady river]

truth nuke

[hearty tusk]

the fuck

[patent sail]

:3

oops all rentals

[light oak]

what should I do here

[hearty tusk]

well at least its not a slur, seen too much of those on twitter

[patent sail]

you think id put that into my balala

[hearty tusk]

hell no

[patent sail]

indeed

[hearty tusk]

i love jackin it, though

the joker

[patent sail]

luckily for me, i do not have it

[hearty tusk]

i love jackin the joker

no no no not like that

[hearty tusk]

its a shithole of miserable people who hate on every and any thing that exists

[heady river]

hmmmmmmmmmmm interesting

[hearty tusk]

thank goodness, i deleted it

[patent sail]

i go outside sometimes hence cant get twitter

[heady river]

lucky

if i go out I get shot on the spot for who I am

[hearty tusk]

no joke, since deleting twitter, I've began jogging

[patent sail]

and also live in a country where its blocked but thats besides the point!

[hearty tusk]

am now less depressed, more energetic, and just living better overall

i dont even hate my job anymore

since deleting both twittwr and reddit, actually

[patent sail]

love adding unnecessary exclamation points to my messages

[patent sail]

never had both 🐎🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

will say though reddit is fun to observe sometimes like an enclosure in a zoo

same for twitter

would rather be looking at it all than taking a part in whatever they are up to

[heady river]

honestly only good for getting solutions to problems no ones had in 10 years

[patent sail]

dont even get me started on balatro reddit

[heady river]

oh

my

god

[undone talon]

this challenge doesnt even feel hard

[undone talon]

lmao same challenge

[patent sail]

gonna get anotwhr 0 stickers win

not wven a win

nevermind i did win

nothing win i guess bro

game been giving me only 0 stickers wins lately

[undone talon]

-1 sticker 🤣

two of a kind also goes hard

[patent sail]

and runs that have potential with unstickered jokers crash to some random unknown bullshit

like what is this that could have been TWO stickers out of the way

[undone talon]

that is the stinky boss blind

[patent sail]

it sucks so bad

i wish i could just drink it

[patent sail]

okay well for pair it does nothing

but it did make me fail to draw my fh

[undone talon]

peak

u got mogged by stinky

did u edit the .lua urself

[patent sail]

ofc

[undone talon]

aura

[patent sail]

no one is as funny as i am to do this /j

i also made jimbo mean because thats funny

[undone talon]

😭

[patent sail]

he now has a line "Go on, post this on r/balatro and complain about game having too much RNG"

[heady river]

this better?

[patent sail]

wheres "Winner of the Most Handsome Devil award"

[heady river]

im not copying urs directly

xd

[patent sail]

he did win that though

i was joking dw

[heady river]

he did

[heady river]

i figur

GAAH

my kyboar

WHY

NOT NOW

[patent sail]

you should totally make Play Hand button be Ship It

[heady river]

sorry about that, my f2, f3 3 e d and c keys dont work well

[heady river]

i hav bttr ia

BAAH

[patent sail]

keyboard is dying

[heady river]

fuck it im getting the external one

[turbid nova]

Do the Wave (Rare): If played hand contains 5 scoring cards, retrigger all cards an additional time
Card art shows a lot of jimbos at a sport stadium doing the wave

Did I cook

[patent sail]

flushslop

[cedar sable]

what

[heady river]

wrong reaqct

xd

anyways hi esxternal keyboard skye here

[turbid nova]

Ancient joker 📈

[heady river]

my laptop is old af the keyvboard barely works

[pale wolf]

there we go

new reference image

[heady river]

nah

[tranquil cedar]

woa...

balaro...

[heady river]

who parked this balatro...
on my balatro?

[mighty timber]

can i naneinf?

[stark charm]

I turned my brain off and accidentally crashed the bus on abandon...

[tranquil cedar]

HOW 😭😭🥹

[shell dagger]

Not rn

[mighty timber]

no i mean in my run

[shell dagger]

maybe

you don’t have much money

or time to find antimatter

it’s slim

[pale wolf]

chicka chicka

[hearty tusk]

slim shady

[frosty stream]

just looking for voucher skip and hoping i get good vouchers right?

no retcon or hand size vouchers 💀

[cloud sinew]

hello everybody my name is welcome

[cloud sinew]

youve taken 20 vouchers in 20 antes, god damn

[frosty stream]

yeah sorta necessary for this sort of run

[brittle ocean]

Bro dodged the planet merchant

[frosty stream]

well so far lol

if i dont get retcon soon ill die

[brittle ocean]

I’ve had so many runs where the game offered me planet merchant multiple antes in a row and I just wished it was deleted from the game

[frosty stream]

facts

its unfortunate because in this sorta run you just have to take it otherwise itll keep popping up stopping you from getting essential vouchers

[brittle ocean]

I still don’t take it cause just planet merchant alone doesn’t reduce the voucher pool

You’d have to take planet tycoon as well to do that

[hearty tusk]

youre so portuguese

[echo sphinx]

think i took a sus route in this playthrough

[brittle ocean]

Cause it removes planet merchant but adds planet tycoon

[frosty stream]

i mean i guess

[echo sphinx]

give me a deck

[frosty stream]

just depends on how lucky you are with vouchers

[cloud sinew]

blue

[rancid lichen]

madafaka

[echo sphinx]

yippie

[rancid lichen]

i wanna commit to bus t b h

[echo sphinx]

time to actually start streaking

[cloud sinew]

the merchant and tycoon vouchers are so much worse for the pool in endless than magic trick as well

because you kinda only care about jokers

[brittle ocean]

Yeah

[cloud sinew]

or spectrals if youre on ghost

[brittle ocean]

Magic trick is equally bad as planet merchant, but illusion adds no further harm

Wait no

[hearty tusk]

average sized, or large?

[cloud sinew]

magic trick is actually so much better

[brittle ocean]

Magic trick is slightly less bad

[echo sphinx]

only a spoonful

[brittle ocean]

Diluting wise

[echo sphinx]

whats magic trick again

[brittle ocean]

I think merchant does 4->9 and magic trick does 0->4?

[cloud sinew]

cards in the shop have a weight of 4, while the merchant vouchers raise their respective weights to 8 (from 4)

oh yeah right

it's 9.6

[brittle ocean]

Yeah

So 5.6 vs 4 increase in non joker weight

[tender quarry]

Magic Trick has usecases in endless no?

[hearty tusk]

tarot merchant might be better though, huh?

[brittle ocean]

Tarot merchant is a take fs

Well in most cases

[cloud sinew]

you dont really care about tarots in endless enough to dilute your pool an insane amount

[tender quarry]

Just because you actually want a big deck and it can substitute DNA to an extent by providing cards to death onto

[hearty tusk]

not really talkin about endless though rn

[brittle ocean]

If you have a fully fixed deck already then probably not worth it

[hearty tusk]

well, at least not me. if you are, then apologies

[brittle ocean]

I thought we were talking about endless lol

[cloud sinew]

this is the main usecase in endless, yeah

[brittle ocean]

Yeah

[cloud sinew]

if illusion wasnt bugged then it would also have a very good usecase with it being a red seal source

[tender quarry]

Illusion has the usecase of removing illusion from the pool

[hearty tusk]

why is illusion bugged?

[brittle ocean]

I prefer dna but still always take magic trick to remove it from the voucher pool after getting illusion

[brittle ocean]

Seals never appear

[hearty tusk]

oh right

[cloud sinew]

it's bugged in two ways; seals never appear, and it's unaffected by hone and glow up

the reason why it's bugged with seals is that the case just isnt there

[brittle ocean]

I don’t think the second part is a bug

[tender quarry]

If it's true, then yeah it's a bug

[cloud sinew]

and with hone/glow up, it's because the edition rate is hard coded for illusion

[tender quarry]

But it's the first I've heard of it at least

[brittle ocean]

Isn’t it being hard coded the intention?

[hearty tusk]

Does Hone include cards in general or just jokers

[tender quarry]

(Not saying it's wrong though)

[cloud sinew]

cards in general

[brittle ocean]

So hone and glow up don’t buff illusion

[cloud sinew]

it affects standard packs

[hearty tusk]

so, it is bugged

[tender quarry]

At least it seems unintended since it does affect standard packs

[brittle ocean]

Illusion itself has a much higher enhancement and edition rate than standard packs do

[shell dagger]

And for 6th sense

[brittle ocean]

Or so I thought

I might be tripping

[hearty tusk]

is Balatro's code based on thoughts and prayers

[pale wolf]

how much do you think seals would increase the price

[hearty tusk]

at least 2$ i think

[brittle ocean]

Idk but if i see a red seal king on a white plasma run im going into debt to buy it

[versed sable]

real

[pale wolf]

I just thought of a cool Joker idea that would require the game to be reprogrammed

A joker that lets you see what is in the packs before you buy them

[cloud sinew]

$2 i think.
there's no reference to what they would cost in the code, at least not that i could find

[clear mulch]

fern 👀

[versed sable]

hiii that's me

[clear mulch]

no that's you, not me

[cloud sinew]

just realised there's a check for "_no_neg" when something is rolled as a negative, so there's functionality for some things to never be negative

[clear mulch]

cards in card packs

[lavish harbor]

Does anyone have any good naninf seeds

[versed sable]

9r57yn44 is my personal best

[pale wolf]

is aleeb naneinf

[hearty tusk]

whar

[lavish harbor]

I trust there's a Baron in there. I don't want to do what I did last time and reroll to find a baron for an hour just to never get it

[clear mulch]

the seed

[hearty tusk]

whar

[pale wolf]

It's a strong seed for legendaries

[hearty tusk]

whar

oh like my seed

yeah i posted one a few days ago, its ante 39 possible

[versed sable]

mine is the bean glitch run
lol

[hearty tusk]

not few days ago actually, a month ago

[cloud sinew]

they don't have that flag

[pale wolf]

The only one ever done

[versed sable]

true

[cloud sinew]

the default tag is handy, i dont think that ever comes up anywhere in vanilla

[pale wolf]

actually the default tag is ?

then when u unlock it it is a tag

ty

[cloud sinew]

i have always found it interesting that you can't find the joker tags (foil, holo, poly, negative, and rare) until youve discovered their respective editions, and with rare you need to have discovered blueprint

[patent sail]

well thats real handy

[pale wolf]

my life has improved by 1% since i stopped watching youtube shorts

[cloud sinew]

my life has improved significantly since i replaced doomscrolling with balatro

[cedar sable]

that's a lot of baron

[hearty tusk]

without the showman, would that have been potentially a bp?

[broken swan]

Theres always a chance

[viral raft]

The fraud reunion

[brave goblet]

I managed to lose a nat certificate insane photochad run ... to the mouth

[broken swan]

Found it

[brave goblet]

accidentally played a high card for the money

[viral raft]

Tbh without showman you may get more chances of getting blueprints 😭

[broken swan]

Literally next reroll

[brave goblet]

off by 10k

[viral raft]

Like thoses. 2 barons could be actually a blueprint because of the blocking card

Low chances but more than showman

[hearty tusk]

noice

id get rid of the 2nd baron ngl

[viral raft]

Nah

Get rid of showman

[hearty tusk]

theres always chance

[viral raft]

Showman because rn he just need blueprint, no more brainstorms

[cloud sinew]

it's worse without showman because they have brainstorm, if they want more brainstorms

[pale wolf]

and dna

[cloud sinew]

2/20 > 1/18

truuue

so it would be 1/17 without showman

[viral raft]

True

[hearty tusk]

booteh

[cloud sinew]

i have a theory based on a bit of code that i read

[cloud sinew]

i dont think there exists a seed with 2 black holes in the same celestial pack

[pale wolf]

as a hard rule or there just happens to not be

[cloud sinew]

a hard rule

[pale wolf]

weird

[cloud sinew]

im testing it rn

[pale wolf]

weird for it to be on black hole specifically and not soul

since you'd need a mega pack to even take both black holes and its still underwhelming

[knotty zodiac]

does multiple souls require showman?

[versed sable]

you see, black hole would be too op

[pale wolf]

yea

but it does happen

[knotty zodiac]

ya ive seen it

[knotty zodiac]

2 tribs let's go!

[hearty tusk]

fuh no

[pale wolf]

the sauce is selling showman before the second one

[hearty tusk]

two chiclets

[knotty zodiac]

the type of player to showman would never sell showman to dedupe

[pale wolf]

how

[viral raft]

The game is hardcoded to make impossible to spawn more than one black hole in a pack?

[cloud sinew]

working out how likely it is to happen, and then searching for a seed where it does happen. if the odds that no seed has been found in my search area is <0.1% then i'm calling that conclusive evidence that two or more black holes cannot spawn in the same celestial pack

[pale wolf]

what if you just cheat in a black hole in your consumable slots with showman in joker slots and play a seed with early black hole

[cloud sinew]

that would be testing something different

that's testing if black hole can spawn if it's already blocked in general, not if a pack can have more than one in it

[knotty zodiac]

also, this doesnt work correctly for jokers (collection spawned jokers dont block in shop apparently)

or dont seem to. untested

[cloud sinew]

yep

[viral raft]

Yeah, for what i saw is that if you manually spawn a planet it doesn't block anything

You need to buy/found one first

[knotty zodiac]

here's why for jokers

#🕹・game-discussion message

i assume it works similarly for consumables

[cloud sinew]

i believe so

[viral raft]

Yep, i remenber trying to see limit blocking with debug mode and i was really confused why planets ignored my consumable planets 😭

[pale wolf]

can you just spawn a billion judgments and use them until you get the Joker you want

[icy hollow]

Omg. Showman top tier joker confirmed!

[knotty zodiac]

well yes but you can just spawn in the joker of your choice so why?

[viral raft]

Showman is the potencial joker with Baron and Bloodstone

[pale wolf]

...to get around the issue

[cloud sinew]

ankh'ing / invis'ing does it too

[pale wolf]

but doesnt work for black hole 🦓

[knotty zodiac]

ya this should work

[icy hollow]

Lowk its the highest potential joker..... straight to top of S tier 🗣️

[cloud sinew]

it removes your potential for tarot looping

so it is F tier

[viral raft]

But...if black hole can't spawn twice, that means that black hole is the only card that cannot be unblocked?

[icy hollow]

Who needs tarot blocking when you can just get luck into infinite temperance loop

[cloud sinew]

no such seed exists :3

[icy hollow]

Actually u can luck into that wirhout showman so 🤔

Showman back to being a bum 🥀

[cloud sinew]

showman actually makes it harder to do that

[viral raft]

Inf Hermit exist, not temperance sadly 🥀

[icy hollow]

He lets your infinite judgement loop create infinite negative blueprints!!!

[viral raft]

That's why hermit is always better than temp

[cloud sinew]

does it?

[pale wolf]

showman but his effect is disabled when hes the leftmost joker

[viral raft]

Sell value? What is that

[cloud sinew]

would actually be peak, but showman bug would have to be fixed

[viral raft]

The inf emperor/hermit seed

[cloud sinew]

can you find the seed for me

[knotty zodiac]

if the last round score was odd, showman is active. otherwise, inactive.

[viral raft]

Sure

[cloud sinew]

if the day of the week ends in y, showman is removed from the pool

[pale wolf]

Chigurh (Legendary)

50% chance to prevent death

sorry i was inspired

[viral raft]

@cloud sinew
87DQ0C3C, you reach ante 7 , use two emperor while you hold a showman and the bug starts working
Heres the video (sadly is a Roze video :/)
https://youtube.com/shorts/3sC-mOi7uDM

[pale wolf]

ew dont promote this guy

[broken swan]

Is farming golden ticket worth the dna value (I win without baron or mime copy)

[pale wolf]

he makes trash content

[viral raft]

True, but is just to show the seed

[knotty zodiac]

75% would be rly funny
like the inverse of wheel

[versed sable]

play 5 cards at a time for money

you have a ton of cards already

[broken swan]

K thanks

[icy hollow]

Nat negative ticket? Hooooly

[icy hollow]

Wait bean was in a roze vid? Damn. Kinda dissapointed 🥀

[viral raft]

Wait really?

[icy hollow]

Yea

Balatro jeoprady ir smth

[viral raft]

Sad

[icy hollow]

Latest vid

Roffle rarran vs bean yahiamice

[viral raft]

Oh, yeah

Sad

[icy hollow]

I saw it reccomended to me but i didnt realize it was roze

[cloud sinew]

okay i'd need to check 72 million seeds to say there's <0.1% it happened by pure chance

[icy hollow]

Until just now when i checked the channel

[cloud sinew]

ill run the filter now

[earnest flame]

One chunky non endless cat

[viral raft]

Good luck

[cloud sinew]

should be fairly quick, 72 million seeds is not a lot and this filter isnt very complicated

[viral raft]

Ohhh yeah me too, tbh roze's content is kinda boring

[pale wolf]

wdym

[viral raft]

Is the kind of content that a new player sees

[pale wolf]

oh not the linked vid

[knotty zodiac]

ive seen roze. i forget why i bounced off

[icy hollow]

I mean i didnt watch it

I just saw it reccomended lol

[pale wolf]

balatroze is the watchmojo of balatro

[icy hollow]

10 worst jokers list had runner

And red card

[viral raft]

https://youtu.be/6evl41FKSAk

[icy hollow]

I forgot what else

[pale wolf]

he puts garbage content in that is purely to inspire viewer engagement

[viral raft]

Basically, purely made with the most basic and bad takes in a balatro contebt

Like the worst jokers video

[knotty zodiac]

hm let me watch an arbitrary one

[pale wolf]

its viewerbait/clickbait in balatro flavor

[icy hollow]

But i mean framing an informational 10 worst jokers list then including (at least) 2 very good jokers

Not good

Just spreading misinfo to new players but framing himself as an experienced 1k hrs+ player

[pale wolf]

yorick was an honorable mention for the top 10 worst jokers video

[icy hollow]

Tho maybe i just dont understand yet. Since i have under 300 hrs.... 🗣️

Once i play more ill finally understand how bad yorick is surely

[short patio]

free mult

[viral raft]

The most viewed thumbnails are very self explanatory of how his content works

[pale wolf]

straight up watchmojo

[icy hollow]

The WR vid btw was filled with non wr runs from drspectered cus mf didnt even bother to research the topic

[knotty zodiac]

ok i get it lol

[icy hollow]

I rmemeber doc commented on the vid to clarify that most of the things listed he wasnt the actual record holder for 😭

[viral raft]

Damn, so it's straight up clickbait

[pale wolf]

compile a barebones list that someone might want to learn about throw in some obviously wrong items for engagement bait, and slap the most algorithmically safe thumbnail and title on it

[past locust]

This tiki haunting me
ANYTHING BUT GOOD EARLY NEGS

[pale wolf]

instant thousands of dollars

[viral raft]

The fact that he added 6 sense as a bad joker but then as a honorable mention Seance is straight up ragebait

[knotty zodiac]

engagement farming woohoo

[past locust]

Ima take it tho, cuz Temp value

Ill probably build into it later

[gaunt temple]

i broke balatro

[cloud sinew]

okay it didnt return a hit holy shit i think im right

celestials cant have more than one black hole in them

[viral raft]

"The worst jokers in the game" and half of them are great in average gold stake

[knotty zodiac]

i dont mind clickbait thumbnails if content is good. thats how the yt game is played

unfortunately the content is not good lol

[gaunt temple]

even if you hold every planet card?

[cloud sinew]

planet blocking doesnt increase odds of black hole spawning

it's a flat 0.3% per card in the pack

[versed sable]

i generally just dislike outright clickbait thumbnails
and they make me less likely to watch

[broken swan]

Found the blueprint!

[gaunt temple]

what spawns if all held?

[cloud sinew]

@fading dome did you know about this?

[cloud sinew]

pluto

it's the default planet card

[gaunt temple]

nice

[pale wolf]

More proof that naneinf was intended

🦓

[gaunt temple]

no ones cares for my ante 77

[icy hollow]

Omg wtffffdgivsi

Ante 77!

If only you died 10 antes earlier 🥀

Sorry

[gaunt temple]

yuck

[pale wolf]

mr bonk

show the pause menu

[gaunt temple]

the pause menu?

[pale wolf]

yea

[gaunt temple]

ohhh you want the seed

1EL1PGK

[pale wolf]

or rather to see if it was seeded

[gaunt temple]

it is

[pale wolf]

but fair enough

[gaunt temple]

skip first 2, beat ante, get mr bones, then open spectral pack and ankh, then get merry andy, skip another 2, play 10 cards without winning, discard all the rest

[knotty zodiac]

once u get past ante 39 everything just plays the same? (can use the same trick?)

[cloud sinew]

i cant find any mention anywhere in the server about black hole not being able to spawn multiple times in the same pack

[pale wolf]

I'd imagine it was never wondered about

[gaunt temple]

no idea xD the shop for ante 77 isnt good

[pale wolf]

what if shop composition changed over the antes? 🤔

[gaunt temple]

i mean no sweat

[knotty zodiac]

i like how brotato shop works a lot

[pale wolf]

the only game ive ever played is balatro

how does brotato work

[gaunt temple]

brotato is fun

[knotty zodiac]

it a roguelike vamp survivor like but how that part works is not particularly relevant

for the shop, there are two factors

1. rarity shifts towards "more rares/legendary" less commons later in the run
2. once you buy something, the shop is more likely to show u something that has synergy with it

shop still feels quite random but youre much less likely to not get something good for the part of run youre in and the way your build leans

[serene forge]

I <3 yuri

[late kelp]

guys, what are the odds that i cast encantation and get 2 5 of diamonds iron cards?

same suit, same number, same buff

[echo sphinx]

what the fuck breh

1/13 of 1/4 of 1/enhancements

[frank grove]

its only 1/9 cause its only numbered right

[echo sphinx]

oh right

[frank grove]

so its like 1/9 * 1/4 * 1/7 four times right?

[pale wolf]

(1/40 x 1/7)^2

oh wait

1/36

[echo sphinx]

aces arent couunted rip

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[knotty zodiac]

https://youtube.com/shorts/W_nW5K2ajS8

the algo fed me this

lol

[patent sail]

such riveting options

[serene forge]

people do be out here throwing away 100 dollars

[patent sail]

whar

[serene forge]

the challenge is that you pick any of these on any deck at the start and if you win on gold stake with it you get a hundred dollars

[gaunt temple]

poor showman

[pale wolf]

showman in dead last is a good sign

[knotty zodiac]

i bet you they clear ante 1 boss with $10 and take blueprint to go with the invis

[serene forge]

its also unseeded btw

[versed sable]

how tf is burglar that low
lmao

[gaunt temple]

whats banned?

[echo sphinx]

invis benig $4 sell value is also not bad

but $4 sell value is susge

its like playing gold stake without red stake

[serene forge]

winner of the previous poll is banned so you don't get a poll of like, 3 page 1 jokers and triboulet

so cavendish is banned this time

[gaunt temple]

just cavendish?

[cloud sinew]

[serene forge]

ye

[cloud sinew]

misinformation be damned /lh

[gaunt temple]

thats easy...

[broken swan]

Should I take it with 9 hand size

[cloud sinew]

yes

i am confident that you can't get duplicate black holes now

[pale wolf]

i wonder why thunk thought black hole was so good it would be op to have two of them

[cloud sinew]

not only did my search criteria have a less than 1 in 1 million chance to just happen to not find one, but also no such seed has ever been posted in this server

[rotund bloom]

Hey guys, I recently found a canvas that's shaped perfectly like a card so I was thinking about what joker to draw onto it and I just can't decide, anyone know any good ones? Preferably ones that work as a painting too

[pale wolf]

and why soul isnt the same level

[pale wolf]

abstract 100%

then castle or shortcut

[limpid gate]

Thats easy

[rotund bloom]

Yeah I was thinking about abstract and those 2 are good aswell

A few that entered my head were some of the legendaries too

[versed sable]

mystic summit and dusk are nice looking

[rotund bloom]

Also good

[frank grove]

im putting my vote for dusk in

[rotund bloom]

Oooooh these are great picks

[versed sable]

campfire's ight

[rotund bloom]

DAMM

[rotund bloom]

These are great

[rotund bloom]

Lmao

[cloud sinew]

i have no idea

i also don't know why it's different code wise

i just had a suspicion based on a snippet of code i read

[rotund bloom]

Mysticastledusk

[red briar]

is midas mask + vampire decent synergy

[cloud sinew]

yes

[versed sable]

yes

[pale wolf]

maybe the best two Joker synergy where both Jokers are still individually great on their own

[red briar]

fire!

[pale wolf]

just remember to put Midas to the right of vampire so that you hold gold cards over time for money

you lose 1 scale per unenhanced face card initially and then its the same but with more money to enhance other cards

[cloud sinew]

i couldnt find a reason for black hole not being able to appear again if you have showman but soul can

weird

[frank grove]

that is weird

[knotty zodiac]

is your seed search done?

[frank grove]

another showman L? 😭

[red briar]

it's a run to be sure

[knotty zodiac]

showman went to fetch a black hole and fell past the event horizon

[cloud sinew]

i searched 10x my initial search area and still turned up nothing. from my calculations it's at least 1 in 1 million that i just happened to not find one seed if it was able to spawn

and no seed has ever been shown in this discord or even a screenshot of 2 black holes in the same pack in vanilla

so i'm certain it's impossible

[knotty zodiac]

tbf two black holes is good but not good enough where ppl would search hard for it

[cloud sinew]

thats what im doing now though

it's ~1 in 10 million seeds from what i worked out, and ive searched over 700 million

[cloud sinew]

1 in 10 million is that showman is in the first 2 shop slots or in the buffoon pack, and that the next pack is a celestial with 2 or more black holes in it

[hearty tusk]

thats quite a lotta search, did you stop time?

[cloud sinew]

what do you mean

[broken swan]

This run secured me a high score in unseeded

[hearty tusk]

me make joke about how 700 millon is lot

take time manually

[cloud sinew]

ah

[hearty tusk]

you stop tome

[cloud sinew]

yeah im searching with immolate so i don't need to do it manually thankfully

[hearty tusk]

profi 👍

meknows

[cloud sinew]

australians telling u what they smell with

[fresh vessel]

😔

i love the plant!!!!

[tame comet]

hello i just joined wawa

i beated red stake on red deck like 10 mins ago :DDD

[fresh vessel]

hy bro

[hearty tusk]

mechuckle

[hearty tusk]

noice

now beat it harder

go next stake

[tame comet]

trust i will

i find it funny that my wins have all been from flush builds

smh smh

okay well not all

but its a lot

[hearty tusk]

try pairslop

[gaunt temple]

me too

[red briar]

it's...peak?

[tame comet]

dud i've been trying to do a good two pair build for souuuuu long 😭

[gaunt temple]

pairslop is just 1 pair

pairs are broken in the game as is high card

[tame comet]

ma bad

[tame comet]

a

[patent sail]

another attempt at forcing walkie talkie win, do i even need this?

[viral raft]

High card is not broken, minmax is

[gaunt temple]

honestly get a better xmult then baseball

[fading dome]

I thought you were asking about physical real life black holes for a second, jeez.

No, I hadn't heard about "celestials cant have more than one black hole in them" before. How do you know?

[viral raft]

I don't think is a good idea

[tame comet]

ooh green stake makes blind scaling more beeg
okok i #see

[patent sail]

ywah absolutely i just have NOTHING rn

might look into glass for chad

[hearty tusk]

well, technically, if were talking about real blackholes

[gaunt temple]

good ol glasschad

[hearty tusk]

they would merge

[cloud sinew]

I have searched at least 3 billion seeds, with the odds being ~1 in 10 million, and found no such seed.

also no such seed has ever been shown or posted in the server

[atomic trout]

Yay

[gaunt temple]

black hole has i think a 1.3% of spawning?

[hearty tusk]

its possible, just not really probable

[cloud sinew]

0.3%

[patent sail]

0.3

[cloud sinew]

same as soul

[gaunt temple]

eh close enough

[echo sphinx]

was there a double soul in a single arcana pack, is that a thing

[patent sail]

has no right to be this rare

[gaunt temple]

it should be like 5%

[tame comet]

i've gotten that once
felt very happy
... now im scared

[cloud sinew]

ive looked at the code and couldn't find any reason it would be different to soul regarding duplicates with showman

[knotty zodiac]

possible with showman

[echo sphinx]

god

[fading dome]

Hmm. There should probably be one out there if it's true, though that's not great evidence in the grand scheme of things...

Did you check reddit / broadly google it?

[hearty tusk]

zebra posted a triple soul pack

[gaunt temple]

imagine, instead of 5 the moon its 5 the soul

[patent sail]

found TTM with both interest vouchers and 115 dollars in the bank mmmfgfhfjf

i wish i coulf take it

[versed sable]

if people have seen triple soul but not double black hole, that's not a good sign

[hearty tusk]

mabye

[echo sphinx]

planet packs are taken less often tho :thonk:

[modest mist]

Yet another win, on Nebula Deck!

[knotty zodiac]

surely this setup is enough power to take jupiter over saturn..?

maybe im overly scared of needle

[tame comet]

congrat!!!!!! :D

[viral raft]

Yeah, go jupiter i think

[modest mist]

Only need to get a win on checkered and zodiac

[viral raft]

Then pivot to a easy hand

[gaunt temple]

i mean saturn scales better then juipter but you have droll joker so

[modest mist]

-# And then I need to unlock the rest of the decks.

[knotty zodiac]

i also have saturn lv2 jupiter 1, a bit tough

[viral raft]

Theres a good mult joker in the shop?

[knotty zodiac]

nothing so far

[viral raft]

Just go save i think

Then you go saturn or pair

[knotty zodiac]

on jupiter im always scared of getting outscaled

but here seems fine..?

[viral raft]

Straight are kinda bad at needle because of bad discards

[patent sail]

im gonna mult all over the place rn

[cloud sinew]

the confidence interval is 1 in 1e131

[cloud sinew]

thats the odds that i just happened to not find one in the first 3 billion seeds

[knotty zodiac]

ya 18 cards seen kinda terrifying. but to be clear there's no needle coming, just thinking about a3-a7 rn

[fading dome]

hmmm

I'll go check the code

[cloud sinew]

ty

[stone shell]

think i have had some multi blackhole runs before

[patent sail]

ALL walkie talkie runs crash into some random bullshit i swear to god its actually cursed

[knotty zodiac]

but would double black hole seeds be randomly distributed?

[cloud sinew]

I don't think you have

not in the same pack at least

[stone shell]

oh same pack

i thought it was same run

[patent sail]

ive seen 2 black holes in one run but not in 1 pack

[cloud sinew]

I can also send you the immolate filter if you want to check it for bugs

[fading dome]

I'll go with balatro's source code first, I'm more familiar with it

[cloud sinew]

alr

[stone shell]

btw how do you feel being the wiki for balatrocord users who are too lazy to look something up

[cloud sinew]

i dont really mind

[knotty zodiac]

a bot would be kinda nice

[hearty tusk]

am reading the shit the fuck is that 😭😭

[cloud sinew]

the wiki server has a bot

[patent sail]

what

[hearty tusk]

colon three

[tame comet]

colon D

[patent sail]

ywah evil fucking boss

[knotty zodiac]

i mean more for newbies than myself

balatrowiki is a reflex at this point

[patent sail]

BRAINSTORM

its perishable

fucking hell

[stone shell]

just direct the newbies to the balatrowiki

[knotty zodiac]

i usually link the relevant page. just feel a lil botlike when i do it xD

[broken swan]

gg

[stone shell]

of course the bus is taking the newbies to somewhere of us for them

[lean agate]

ohmygodbruh

[knotty zodiac]

this bus only stops at good wikis

[lean agate]

honestly my bad for having 50 dollers under my name

couldve spent it

holy start

[fading dome]

Well I didn't find anything about double black hole yet (and the code doesn't seem like Thunk is trying to either, still looking into it), but I did find something else that's really funny

You can't get Black Hole during the Jokerless challenge (technically any challenge that bans the c_soul card, but that's only 1 challenge)

[patent sail]

what the fuck

[cloud sinew]

lol

[tame comet]

WHERE ARE MY SEVENS IM SOBBING

[cloud sinew]

also im pretty sure that if you get both in a pack it has to go black hole -> soul because if soul was first, black hole wouldnt be able to spawn (assuming no showman) because c_soul is now a banned key

[stone shell]

game is punishing you for building towards 7s

[tame comet]

i barely even HAD good 7s 💔

[stone shell]

there is no good 7 rip

[buoyant stratus]

Colon dee

[lean agate]

remind me, what playing hand do people usually play photochad with again?

[tame comet]

heh... colon deez

[buoyant stratus]

I should've expected this

[tame comet]

PFFTHAHAH

[stone shell]

think photochad works in any build tbf :P

even pairs work if you get blueseals

[cloud sinew]

pairs or straights, generally.

[stone shell]

i personally like straights with it though

[buoyant stratus]

I'm certified stupid™ but I think because it does the thing before the joker the higher the hand the better because more base mult

[cloud sinew]

straights because of the scaling and because you will very likely not need to play more than one per round with photochad

[lean agate]

mmmmmfluhouse

[tame comet]

oh hello

[shell dagger]

3oak is decent

for photochad

[fading dome]

I mean Thunk individually checks for in-use* cards and banned cards. He just... prevents the entire block that generates soul/black hole from running if the soul is banned (not in-use*, banned)

[cloud sinew]

ah

[patent sail]

clubs boss when im relying on c2

game actually hates me today

[ebon elbow]

i wish rare jokers had less garbage in them, if i ever skip the blind for rare joker, its like obelisk or campfire 9/10

[cloud sinew]

obelisk and campfire are in the top 5

[patent sail]

campfire and obby are good tho

like great

[tame comet]

funny
i just did the blind skip-

[ebon elbow]

they just take so much setup

[cloud sinew]

not really

[patent sail]

obby maybe sure but campfire?

[cloud sinew]

campfire scales from selling anything, very easy to get that scaled

[glass creek]

Proceeds to mention two very good jokers

[ebon elbow]

or hit the road jack

[patent sail]

also why do you take rare skips 😭😭😭😭

[cloud sinew]

and obelisk requires you to just play one hand and then play anything but that hand

[patent sail]

great too

[cloud sinew]

12 as your most played, not high card, is enough for most runs

[tame comet]

nvm im dead

[cloud sinew]

HTR is okay

[patent sail]

idunno i like it a lot

[cloud sinew]

it's very boss vulnerable and very card draw vulnerable

[ebon elbow]

i lowkey doubt anyone has won a run with hit the road jack

[cloud sinew]

I have

everyone who has C++ has

[patent sail]

why do i have a purple sticker on it then

it actually saved me that one run

[earnest flame]

Goldstake campfire is goated

[patent sail]

any stake

[earnest flame]

Its the most powerful on gs

[cloud sinew]

it is, but it's slightly improved by rentals existing

[patent sail]

have one open slot for rentals

[lean agate]

so yeah I just lost because im stupid

[cloud sinew]

rentals are usually not too much of a consideration though because having an open slot doesnt really happen much for the last couple antes

[lean agate]

massively stupid for the past hours tbh

[patent sail]

poly gem is so pretty

[ebon elbow]

im obviously bias towards campfire since it loses its multiplier after the boss
like compared to the other jokers which just keep their x mult, i dont like getting mugged, id rather take hologram or throwback

[minor portal]

the nefarious throwback

[cloud sinew]

throwback???

[patent sail]

it would be WAY too powerful if it didnt reset

[patent sail]

constellation 💔

[frank grove]

insane sneak

[ebon elbow]

yeah if campfire was x,1 mult like constellation and kept it, id like it more

[patent sail]

still really powerful

[cloud sinew]

skipping is generally really bad btw, you lose an entire shop, a round of econ, scaling from jokers, etc all for 0.25x if you have throwback, and a tag

[minor portal]

throwback should at the very least be reverted back to its old scaling

[ebon elbow]

i did goldstake anaglyph deck, skipping the blind definitely hurts you overall, but if you're already strong i think skipping is sometimes more fun

[minor portal]

0.25 xmult is just not worth it in the slightest compared to what you lose

[tough bane]

sell bull?

[cloud sinew]

even anaglyph isnt a deck you should skip a lot on

[patent sail]

i prefer building up double tags and taking ONE skip

[ebon elbow]

well the gimmick of anaglyph is just, get 10 negative jokers at the end

[cloud sinew]

if youre arguing for fun, then that's whatever. it's just preference atp.
if we're talking about balance though, throwback is incredibly weak compared to the xmults you mentioned

[patent sail]

10 arcana packs

🐎🔥

i did that once and got so much money

[terse dock]

Make love not war

[minor portal]

ten grims from spectral packs 🗣️

[patent sail]

10 incantations

hologram 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[ebon elbow]

getting 10 of the spectral card packs that let you choose 2 cards would be fun

[cloud sinew]

you only get to choose 1

[patent sail]

arcana are usually better tbh

[ebon elbow]

i also gold stake ethereal deck, those are the only 2 ive played alot

[patent sail]

ethereal? maybe ghost?

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[ebon elbow]

the spectral cards in shop ones

[patent sail]

ghost

[cloud sinew]

that's ghost deck

[minor portal]

spooky deck

[patent sail]

ethereal is spectral tag

[cloud sinew]

ethereal sucks so much oh my god

it's not even a jumbo 😭

you see 2 spectrals and you get to choose 1

[patent sail]

i used to take them a lot when i started playing

but then i realised you usually dont even get anything useful

[cloud sinew]

losing an entire shop, round of econ, joker scaling, etc for a normal spectral pack... 😭

[patent sail]

ankhing blackboard or immolate

[minor portal]

sell blackboard and skip the pack

[ebon elbow]

etheral cards are another thing, where they are mostly bad for you, but i think forcing them is fun, the same way skipping can be, like just getting more negative cards makes me happy, except when they have the decay thing thats so tragic every time

[patent sail]

hold on.... this guy is onto something

[cloud sinew]

i would be fine with them being fun if they werent also so fundamentally bad.
the very least that should be done is making them be a jumbo spectral instead of a normal

[viral raft]

What the hell is Ethereal cards? 😭

[cloud sinew]

it makes it more fun AND less fundamentally bad

[cloud sinew]

spectrals

[patent sail]

i take every single negative skip knowing full well its probably gonna suck ass because im a gambler like that 🦐🔥

[ebon elbow]

but yeah, i hate obelisk and wish too never see it in the shop again

[patent sail]

"i hate winning"

[viral raft]

Most of spectral cards deserve a buff

[patent sail]

do you perhaps play face cards a lot

[viral raft]

And imm maybe a nerf

[glass creek]

I guess that's reasonable if you hate free wins

[patent sail]

buff immolate 🦞🔥

[cloud sinew]

most of them are fine

[ebon elbow]

like, its only useful lategame, if you already played 15 flushes or something, and then make a switch to a new build halfway through,
if you get it early, it just doesnt help

[patent sail]

back to the question of

ankhing blackboard or immolating

[viral raft]

If immolate and a the seals didn't exist spectral packs would easily considered the worst packs in the game by far

[cloud sinew]

black hole, deja vu*, and ouija are the only 3 that i think need a buff

[glass creek]

It's -1 joker slot short term and good scaling xmult long term

[cloud sinew]

deja vu is because i think red seal should affect discard effects

[glass creek]

You have 5 joker slots usually

[ebon elbow]

ouija is my favourite tbh

[waxen quartz]

still won't make HTR a C tier 🙂

[viral raft]

Htr ia great wdym

[cloud sinew]

-1 handsize is incredibly punishing for +8 of a rank at best most of the time.

[cosmic sun]

That would actually be a crazy HTR buff

[ebon elbow]

having a 8 card hand is just greeedy, 7 is enough for the likes of me

[cloud sinew]

wouldnt really be that crazy

[viral raft]

If they nerf Rebate i thini that would be a really well balance change

[ebon elbow]

ive only hit ouija with the bean once, but it was so lovely

i got all aces aswell

[cloud sinew]

rebate is nerfed on the beta branch, so it's definitely a consideration. it might not end up being nerfed in 1.1, or the nerf might not be as severe as it is on the beta branch

[cosmic sun]

Rebate nerf always gets mentioned in a red seal buff 💀

[cloud sinew]

you can only keep 2 cards while discarding optimally if you have 7 handsize

[viral raft]

I think 3$ would be ok, it would be a really good ecob joker overall

[waxen quartz]

I just did strflush out of a seed with a round 1 ecto 🙂 it's not so bad (on white stake lol)

[viral raft]

5$ is just insane for just 1 card 😭

[cloud sinew]

but yeah i think red seals affecting discard effects would be awesome

[viral raft]

I hope that 1.1 if they don't add too much things atleast they make a massive meta change

[viral raft]

Yeah, great and fun overall

[cloud sinew]

$4 with blue stake rework would make it on par with current rebate, so making it $3 would be a deserved nerf

[barren eagle]

WHERE IS MY BARON
-# and my brain-print

[fading dome]

It's very clear to me that Thunk isn't trying to prevent multiple Black Holes
Similarly, nothing in the code indicates Thunk accidentally prevented multiple black holes, as far as I can tell

If I modify the code so that black holes appear with a 25% chance instead, and hold showman, I can easily get this (this is MODDED - not using smods, but modded)

[glass creek]

I think rebate should give you $100 per discard

[viral raft]

Yep, you only need 2 card to make 6$, i think as a econ joker is still great and don't even considered the fact that is compatible with bp/bs unlike many $ jokers

[cloud sinew]

hm

its very weird then that i havent found a seed with it in vanilla and that nobody else has (that i could find)

[frank grove]

guess you got to look through all 2 trillion seeds 😭