🕹・game-discussion

[terse gyro]

I got it on the omelette challenge also

[cedar sable]

gl

[terse gyro]

It’s pretty much the last achievement I need to 100% the game

It hasn’t been too bad because everything’s on white stake

[cedar sable]

uhhhhh

let's see when it reached hundreds lo

[humble gulch]

Luckily there's only two hard challenges

[terse gyro]

jokerless and the one shot?

[full rune]

Okokokok

[wicked musk]

I beat Gold Stake for the first time the other day

[cedar sable]

g

omg another stencil opener guy

[humble gulch]

Yeah, jokerless is kind of easy tho

You can get pretty consistent at it

Golden needle is a lot of RNG

[silver bobcat]

My first 24 hours on. How good are legendary jokers? Feel i have a good shot to win with current set up

[flat tiger]

both are quite RNG you need the early shops to give you something way more then gold stake, if you only get pluto or mercury or neptune you are just dead, even venus is hard to stay alive

[unreal topaz]

they're quite good, there's just a chance the one you get doesn't fit into your build this late, but you'd be fine giving up a slot for it anyway

[silver bobcat]

Would i give up the Chad?

[terse vale]

i’d say yea

chad served its purpose

[celest cobalt]

i need to sell the mime, dont I?

[flat tiger]

why

you are ante 2

[celest cobalt]

for dna

[celest cobalt]

yea thats why itll help to get a dna so early on
i can always just get a mime again later

[flat tiger]

you are more likely to just die before you get enough K

[errant brook]

Need to re-do some of the mobile achievements. Played Anaglyph Deck today and saw maybe 40 antes. Not ONCE was there an arcana pack skip -_-

40 antes, not one

[scarlet girder]

sorry what deck am i playing again

[digital pewter]

@charred sierra

[eager lance]

does sixth sense work on a 6 that is enhanced to a stone card

[digital pewter]

presumably no, since it doesn't have a rank when played

[flat tiger]

do you always copy bloodstone with this? or is it sock if 5 face cards

[flat tiger]

stone "doesnt have a rank" and "doesnt have a suit", I still hope it shows you what the OG card is like when you vampire them

[unreal topaz]

it does

you can even use strength and suit changers on the card underneath

thats tech for when you have idol

[flat tiger]

it doesnt matter until you remove the stone

[unreal topaz]

exactly

[flat tiger]

and you cant tell which is which

[blazing relic]

Should I grab DNA? What should I get rid of - burnt joker? I have high cards at level 22. I do have enhanced playing cards in my deck although hologram is at 1.25x. Next boss is amber acorn.

[unreal topaz]

if it has a red seal or polychrome or smth like that then its both desirable to strength and recognizable

[flat tiger]

thats why they should show you what card it is like when you vamp them

you just cannot tell when a stone card show up in a shop or when you have multiple stone in the deck

[unreal topaz]

it does? i'm confused

when the vamp sucks the stone off

[flat tiger]

it literally has the stone effect while showing you what card it is if you vamp a stone card

[unreal topaz]

like if you have vamp why care about the rank/suit

yeah

what's the problem w that?

[flat tiger]

they already have the effect in game but they dont show you what card it is when stoned

[unreal topaz]

right

i dont see why its an issue

[flat tiger]

you should still be able to make strength/suit change choices with stone since you can turn them back to card with suit/rank

[unreal topaz]

idk, if they do the same thing, being stone cards, they should look the same imo

you just have to plan around what cards to stone if you care about that

[turbid nova]

I think you can at least know their suit by looking at your deck

[flat tiger]

i see no reason not to show you the card, it makes stone in shop worth it sometimes

also you can have multiple stone in hand

[charred sierra]

NO ONE CARES, STOP

[unreal topaz]

you can know the distribution

[digital pewter]

[unreal topaz]

but you cant distinguish the ones in your hand

[eager lance]

oh true

[eager lance]

yeah it does

negative gift card lets go

[turbid nova]

Is it crazy to suggest that vampire should be 0.2x instead

[flat tiger]

for any trigger and joker and scoring purposes they do exactly the same thing, it cant trigger any rank or suit effect

[unreal topaz]

yeah, it used to be that but it got rightfully nerfed

it also used to be rare iirc

[turbid nova]

I see

[flat tiger]

throwback should be 1X per skip

[turbid nova]

It’s one of the worst uncommons imo

[eager lance]

yeah but i was saying yeah to the vampire part

[turbid nova]

Too situational

[unreal topaz]

hard disagree

[eager lance]

way too op

[unreal topaz]

scaling xmult

and it scales at a pretty decent rate

there's 8 different enhancements

so like a third of the tarot cards will scale it

ignoring emperor/fool

ignoring blue seals its very similar to constellation

just with a slight drawback

[turbid nova]

Those too indirectly

[unreal topaz]

it also applies to every hand

any unconditional xmult is just good

throwback being the only exception i can think of

[lunar zealot]

throwback is an uncommo

[turbid nova]

Yesterday I suggested that Madness should be nerfed

I think that it should scale only if a Joker is destroyed

I think it makes gold stake wins way too free

[knotty zodiac]

agree

[turbid nova]

This way it remains mostly unchanged for white stake (it would still suck)

[flat tiger]

you cant take any non eternal with madness is alreayd a big enough drawback, X1 per ante is not crazy big anyway

[unreal topaz]

i mean it scales fast, but like

you get to take 70% less of all the other xmult

unless you fullskip, which is an interesting decision to make anyway

[flat tiger]

meanwhile throwback is 0.5X per ante, and you miss 2 shops per ante

[unreal topaz]

well its not 0.5x per ante realistically, its more like 1.25x-1.5x by the end

so like it can be good enough but it isnt much

[flat tiger]

you are skipping both if you actually do throwback, or, 99 times out of 100, you dont take it at all

you dont take throwback then half ass it

get the full ass

[eager lance]

WTF

[unreal topaz]

well the blinds scale exponentially so just getting throwback scaling wont cut it

throwback is better seen as flat xmult than scaling xmult

[unreal topaz]

like the scoring requirements roughly triple each ante first few antes, and roughly double each later ante

so you just lose if you go all in on throwback

it just wont keep up

[flat tiger]

if it can keep up its a free win

of cos it cant keep up on its own

you still have a shop and a round per ante

[unreal topaz]

theres no way one shop is enough

[flat tiger]

on games where I take throw back, one shop per ante is indeed enough

i had maybe 3 throwback wins after purple

[unreal topaz]

seems much less consistent than skipping less

[flat tiger]

you dont want to take throwback at all minus very rare suituations

you dont want to skip after ante 1period

[unreal topaz]

yeah, im saying the situation i take it is when i just need 1.25x or so

and its already scaled up to that

[flat tiger]

it is extremely rare you need x mult but 1.25 is enough

[unreal topaz]

yeah

[flat tiger]

you need at least 2X basicalyl every tiem you need xmult

[unreal topaz]

its happened to me tho

[knotty zodiac]

ya sometimes u just need a smol power spike

like when you scaled up for needle but are just missing 10-20%.

granted very often throwback is 1.00 there, then it doesnt work

[flat tiger]

1.25X or 1.5X is not really a spike lol

thats one steel

[frank grove]

steel usually is way less than 1.5x cause of when it triggers

[compact gazelle]

it’s a joker

[silk thorn]

ancient joker is so peak if it doesn‘t just pick the debuffed suit

[compact gazelle]

i hate to defend throwback but it has legitimate use cases of “nothing better exists”

[compact gazelle]

skip big blind if aj doesn’t match it and you won’t get boss targeted

[flat tiger]

having to skip is such a big drawback way more then madness, it should be 0.75 to 1X

[silk thorn]

i never thought of that, thanks lol

[compact gazelle]

1x is wild lmao

[frank grove]

i think that throwbacks effect should be redone

[flat tiger]

it just need a bigger number, a skip joker is fine to have

[digital pewter]

what REALLY needs to happen is for you to go to the shop after skipping a blind

[frank grove]

I just dont think having a joker that only scales by doing something that typically hurts runs is a great effect design

[humble gulch]

Make throwback scale per tag consumed

[digital pewter]

yeah which is why you make skipping itself better rather than overcompensating with throwback

[compact gazelle]

idiots gonna come after you claiming that describes red card

[flat tiger]

skiping should not hurt runs 99 out of 100 times, skips should be reworked if anything, skip effects should be buffed

[frank grove]

how do you make skipping better without just giving the round back though?

[digital pewter]

this just means it becomes an anaglyph specific joker, doesn't it?

[compact gazelle]

0.5x throwback with tags buffed to be on average a lil worse than playing out blinds sounds fine

[digital pewter]

make it send you to the shop after skipping

[frank grove]

even if you give the shop back thats only like a quarter of the problem

[compact gazelle]

cola

[digital pewter]

it's more like half the problem

[frank grove]

most of the issue is not being able to use the round 😭

[flat tiger]

3level is worth skipping in a lot of cases, if most skip effects is this strong, instead of "free reroll ONCE" then it wouldnt be that bad

[digital pewter]

i mean yeah but most runs get like, one cola at most disregarding endless

maybe two

[compact gazelle]

it’s not like the goal is to make it broken i think the change to tags is a fine minor alteration

[digital pewter]

depends on your econ ig but realistically getting diet colas for throwback has very little impact

[compact gazelle]

skipping for it already has minimal value this wouldn’t hurt

[digital pewter]

i still dislike the idea of a joker only becoming good on a single deck but i guess it doesn't make it worse

[compact gazelle]

it still needs some other help to be functional of course this wouldn’t be the only change if fixing it was the objective

[digital pewter]

y'know this whole conversation does make me think

what was the point in skipping being added anyways?

[compact gazelle]

to give players more options because that’s part of what makes games cool

although it may have been an afterthought
that or thunk just massively misestimated the tag power

[digital pewter]

a lot of the tags could get changed around to be honest

there are like 4 tags dedicated to econ off the top of my head with 2 of them being worse than the other 2 in most cases

[frank grove]

yeah speed and garbage tag are the bad ones and investment, handy and economy are pretty good

[flat tiger]

i dont get why "one free reroll" is even a skip tag

[strange compass]

The auspicious flush horse run

[icy hollow]

Eh i disagree. I think that would make it pretty interesting, of if the scaling value is worth the lost value from skipping. Its just rn that throwback is so bad scaling that its never worth it

[frank grove]

what would throwback have to be at to offset the loss from a round

[compact gazelle]

it’s not that’s chaos

[fickle wraith]

flush horse 🐴

[compact gazelle]

d6 starts rerolls at $0

[icy hollow]

😩 polychrome on cards is so sexy

[fickle wraith]

real talk i think the game would be better if we started in the shop instead of having to play through the first blind. Discuss

[strange compass]

Avg zodiac deck hand honestly

I used like a hundred tarots

[icy hollow]

🤔 im not sure lol. But just overall statement wise, i think having scaling that you have to consider if its worth the drawback cam be pretty interesting

[fickle wraith]

it's like 30 seconds at the beginning of each run is spent playing Straight or Flush simulator and it's very very dull

[frank grove]

okay 😭

[strange compass]

Speaking of the game rules. Anyone else feels like Tarots end up overshadowing jokers?

Like you can just win anything by spamming tarots

[strange compass]

Also my opinion on Bloodstone has went up a bit after playing it with sock and bus

[icy hollow]

.

[strange compass]

It retriggers alot with just 5 face cards

[strange compass]

It's true

[icy hollow]

🥀

[strange compass]

My ranking for the suit jokers:

1. Arrowhead
2. Bloodstone
3. Rough Gem
4. Onyx Agate

[icy hollow]

At least bloodstone isnt first.............

[strange compass]

Arrowhead is the most consistently good one

[fickle wraith]

i think it is rough gem

[strange compass]

I genuinely don't get the point of Onyx Agate

It's so mid

[fickle wraith]

onyx agate is fine

i like it

[icy hollow]

Mid is better than dogshit 🥀

[fickle wraith]

it's better than smiley face and the other +3 mult suit jokers

[strange compass]

Agate is always mid while BL has the highest ceiling for scoring out of all the suit jokers

[icy hollow]

Ceiling does not matter at all

When the scoring req for beating ante 8 is stagnant

And for endless bloodstone is terrible compared to the other endless engines

[strange compass]

Agate is overshadowed by Fibonacci

Would you rather have:
+8 mult
Immunity to suit boss
Or
+7 mult
Vulnerable to suit boss

[icy hollow]

Still better than bloodstone 🥀

[flat tiger]

fib is way harder to build around comparing to agate anyway, thats the trade off

[fickle wraith]

yeeah and they're all kind of mid

wrong reply

[fickle wraith]

replying to this

[strange compass]

Two pair, FH are not that hard and with agate you'd have to play flush for a bit which means getting Jupiter scaling 💔

[icy hollow]

Fh is absolutely hard

[flat tiger]

FH is bait

FH is always bait

[echo sphinx]

just twopair it

[strange compass]

Can still use it for single pair and oaks

[flat tiger]

on trigger + mult is not that strong in the first place

fib is close to be great but at the end, most of the time not

[icy hollow]

You can do that with agate too. And i mean this isnt to say agate is good. Bloodstone is still just worse

Luck based scoring is significantly worse than luck based econ

[strange compass]

Ehhh

[icy hollow]

Missing a roll on econ is a bit liss money that round

Missing a roll on scoring is death

[strange compass]

With agate you'd now also have to your oaks into clubs

An extra step

[flat tiger]

like rolling +0 on misprint

[icy hollow]

Youd have to do that with bloodstone too

Except bloodstone is multiplicative so it actually needs more cards played much more than agate does

[strange compass]

Retriggers and red seals help alot plus the dice does exist

[icy hollow]

You can still miss with retriggers

[echo sphinx]

dogshit joker needs 1 in 150 uncommon joker to work

[icy hollow]

Oa6 is one specific uncommon that it needs to not be useless

[echo sphinx]

gang what is this 🥀

[patent root]

ᠠᠢᠨ ᠪᠠᠯᠨᠠ ᠤᠳ

[icy hollow]

And youre still playing flushes thay insta dies to a boss

[icy hollow]

True

[patent root]

юᠤ ᠭᠡᠵᠴᠨᠣ ᠭᠠᠵ ᠪᠣᠳᠣᠵ ᠪ ᠠᠱᠭᠠᠠ ᠪᠫ?

[icy hollow]

I disagree

[patent root]

You don't understand what am I saying

[strange compass]

Red seals, Chad, Sock and Bus AND Dice help bloodstone, also I'd like to add smeared joker too I think it helps in starting to get flush house or fives which benefits bloodstone more thanks to the already massive base mult from the hand

[echo sphinx]

ok and then still die cuz its a numbers game

a person have a 5 in 6 chance to win a roulette, would they play it

[patent root]

ᠲᠡᠩᠡᠭ ᠮᠠ ᠮᠠ

[icy hollow]

I disagree

[patent root]

I disagree

[undone talon]

I disagree

[icy hollow]

Woah... i dont thjnk you can say that

[undone talon]

is he cussing us out in another language

srsly bro 💀

[strange compass]

Sure but bloodstone I just don't see being worse than Onyx

Rough Gem and Arrowhead sure

[undone talon]

arrowhead is my saviour on plasma

[strange compass]

@undone talon pls help me

[undone talon]

and i acc like rough gem early because i can build towards diamonds with tarot

[undone talon]

yes

what is it

[strange compass]

Defend the stone

[undone talon]

THE BLOODSTONE AM I RIGHT

[echo sphinx]

rough stone

[undone talon]

how dare u

bloodstone is my beloved

[echo sphinx]

its monis

just smear them together

[undone talon]

the reason everyone slanders it is coz they pick it up without oops

[frank grove]

nice 🔥

[undone talon]

without oops ur js asking to die eventually

[ebon condor]

i think your table leg is broken

[frank grove]

i gotta get a repair guy out

[strange compass]

I don't think it NEEDS Oops like if you have deck fixed and retriggers with seals, chad or sock and bus it will be good

[patent root]

ᠪᠢ ᠴᠢᠰᠤᠨ ᠴᠢᠯᠠᠭᠤ ᠳᠤ ᠳᠤᠷᠠᠲᠠᠢ

[undone talon]

100%

[strange compass]

Or atleast better than Onyc

[undone talon]

obv obv

[strange compass]

Which is what I was saying

[undone talon]

bloodstone lucky cat oops is my favourite build

its js entertaining

[ebon condor]

we sayin bloodstone better than ONYX???

[icy hollow]

😭

[undone talon]

yes

[strange compass]

Yes we are

[patent root]

ᠪᠢ ᠴᠢᠰᠤᠨ ᠴᠢᠯᠠᠭᠤ ᠳᠤ ᠳᠤᠷᠠᠲᠠᠢ

[ebon condor]

damn we just saying anything now

[undone talon]

tylermon gets me

[icy hollow]

I dont think that helps ur point bro

[frank grove]

Do you guys like 8 ball?

[icy hollow]

Bloodstone means death if u dont have oops is not a good thing

[strange compass]

Onyx is not the goat bro that shit is worse than Fibonacci

[undone talon]

good tarot gen early

[ebon condor]

ok?

[undone talon]

then dont take the bloodstone

[ebon condor]

fib is also ok

[strange compass]

I have never actually used it

[cloud sinew]

and fib is very good, so thats not saying much

[icy hollow]

Theres a very big gap between worse than fib and better than bloodstone

[icy hollow]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 🙏 🙏 🙏

[undone talon]

why are we hating on fib

[echo sphinx]

The Family is a scaling joker, Throwback is good, and Showman is meta

[patent root]

ᠲᠠ ᠬᠥᠮᠥᠨ ᠢ ᠠᠯᠠᠵᠠᠢ

[south cobalt]

Bloodstone is good when u get the 1 in 2 everytime

[cloud sinew]

Twin

shut up

[undone talon]

bro can someone get this guy to speak in english

[strange compass]

I did not say Fib is bad I just don't like that Onyx is strictly worse than ut

[patent root]

ᠴᠢᠰᠤᠨ ᠴᠢᠯᠠᠭᠤ ᠪᠣᠯ ᠶᠠᠯ᠎ᠠ᠂ ᠪᠢᠲᠡᠭᠡᠢ ᠢᠨᠭ᠍ᠭᠢᠵᠦ ᠪᠠᠢ

[undone talon]

GET THIS GUY OUTTA HER

HERE

[cloud sinew]

english only here

[patent root]

Ka

What am I trying to say here Is
Bloodstone is Rock that rock killed someone

[strange compass]

YOU guys were the ones here calling Fib worse

[flat tiger]

I think all + mult on trigger ones are mid AF

[strange compass]

Yes?

[cloud sinew]

YOU SAID IT WAS WORSE

[strange compass]

Where did I say Fib is bad?

[undone talon]

hes saying onyx>fib

[ebon condor]

no actually i think they were calling fib worse earlier

[undone talon]

wait

[strange compass]

Yes it is lol

[undone talon]

now im confused

[strange compass]

Onyx is worse than Fib

[patent root]

My dog is fucked up

[undone talon]

we can tell

[cloud sinew]

and so when did people say FIB is worse than ONYX

[ebon condor]

oh wait no they werent

[undone talon]

unjustified onyx hate tbh

[flat tiger]

you have less cards to work with with fib and mroe limited hands to play, all you need to do is moon spam with onyx

[strange compass]

Read the convo

Lmaoooo

[echo sphinx]

fib is scores better mult than you

[undone talon]

that shit got me through 5 antes

[strange compass]

They were saying Fib is worse than Onyx

[cloud sinew]

either quote or dont respond, you are so unhelpful

[flat tiger]

fib is worse because you have less card to play and harder hands TO play

[strange compass]

Just click on that message haha

[frank grove]

wait im confused they just said that fib is stronger cause its got a more limited activation

[icy hollow]

Here is where they mentioned fib first. Nobodt said fib is bad idk where youre getting that from

[undone talon]

anyone wanna duo on bedwars 😏

[frank grove]

whilst onyx is easier to build around but is weaker on paper cause of that

[strange compass]

Maybe

[cloud sinew]

fib is 20/52 at base, onyx is 13/52

[undone talon]

but

the moon card

[echo sphinx]

lets go back to arguing whether The Family is a scaling joker or not

[flat tiger]

its +7 vs +8 and onyx is 10 times easier to spam hands on, all you need to moon and flush

not all cards are fib cards with fib hands

[undone talon]

is the family the straight joker?

x3 for straights?

[strange compass]

This is me slandering Onyx by calling it worse Fib

[cloud sinew]

fib doesnt have a direct counter, barring leaf.

[patent root]

She had no idea

[echo sphinx]

nope, that would be The Order

family is the 4oak

[undone talon]

family is 100% scaling

[cloud sinew]

This is not balatro

istg

[flat tiger]

yeah you can also randomly die to flint

[undone talon]

itrs the wiki

nah

[cloud sinew]

Oh my god it is balatro you just took a stupid ass screenshot

[tranquil steppe]

5x7 > 4x8

[undone talon]

its the fandom

[strange compass]

You rlly upgrading Jupiter tho?

[undone talon]

page

[cloud sinew]

😭

[frank grove]

it is balatro but its the fandom page woof 😭

[flat tiger]

why not if I get a ton of moon early and/or onyx early

[echo sphinx]

truege

[undone talon]

balatro.wiki > over the fandom right

[patent root]

She had no idea how rich am I!

[undone talon]

swr the fandom pages for most games get stuff wrong

pretty sure i saw a mistake for dead cells once

[cloud sinew]

fym 4x8, you arent limited to 4 fib ranks in hand? full houses exist

[ebon condor]

wait hold on i need to see if the fandom wiki still has my favorite piece of misinformation\

[frank grove]

what

[crystal kiln]

or spam you with ads or force you to make an account to comment

[strange compass]

That lady is actually me rn but just change the show's title to "she had no idea how based I am"

[echo sphinx]

dont go saying the fh word or the office will get ya

[undone talon]

its SO JARRING

[tranquil steppe]

Flushes are way easier than full house

[unreal topaz]

for this scale, specific 2 pairs are easier to spam in general than specific flushes, and they have better chip scaling too

[ebon condor]

ITS STILL HERE 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[strange compass]

They think FH is impossible to play apparently

[undone talon]

im still for onyx being better

[flat tiger]

you are very unlikely to get a full hand of fib cards until mid late game but you can easily get club flushes with onyx

[crystal kiln]

Wookieepedia’s worst for it

I just wanna read not be spammed with rampant consumerism

[patent root]

Buy some keys

[cloud sinew]

that wasnt your point though

[undone talon]

lmaooooooooo

[undone talon]

ahlie

UBLOCK ORIGIN HAS GOT ME

[tranquil steppe]

You don’t know my points

[cloud sinew]

pointed

[strange compass]

And even than two pair Fib is 32 mult while Onyx flush is 35 mult. +3 mult for playing FLUSH

[cloud sinew]

and STILL slower chips scaling lmao

[crystal kiln]

what’s that word when the counter goes over the limit?

[cloud sinew]

+20 on uranus vs +15 on flush

[patent root]

I think onyx is bad

[icy hollow]

Yea i was just rpelying to it in case they wanted to backread the start of it 🤷‍♂️

[patent root]

If you unlock

[flat tiger]

you are just very NOT likely to get all cards being fib cards any time soon, but you can very easily get club flushes even ante 2-3

[icy hollow]

Discussion moved on from bloodstone slander so it doesnt matter to me anymore 🗣️

[ebon condor]

ok but what about steelyx agate

[echo sphinx]

heartlyx agate when

[undone talon]

wait what

[strange compass]

Probably the most coherent thing youvw said yet 🙏

[crystal kiln]

oh hey I got a straight flush

[echo sphinx]

yes

[cloud sinew]

yes

[undone talon]

wait so +20 chips on twopair

[cloud sinew]

jupiter is ass

[undone talon]

and +15 on jupiter?

[echo sphinx]

flush chip is pathetic

yes

[undone talon]

WAIT ITS +15

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[patent root]

I can poop on it

[strange compass]

+7 mult and 1/2 chance for 1.5x mult

[echo sphinx]

om

[frank grove]

yeah jupiter is one of the worst planet cards in the game 😭

[crystal kiln]

Uranus

[undone talon]

aint no way i didnt even know that

😭

and flush is my favourite nooooooo

[ebon condor]

biggest planet in the solar system, cant muster up more than mercury

[strange compass]

I'd rather have ur anus than ass

[undone talon]

wait mercury and jupiter are the same scaling right 💀

[flat tiger]

jupiter is still better scaling then uranus, and gets online pretty easily

[undone talon]

i js realised

[cloud sinew]

chips scaling, yes

[undone talon]

oh +1 merc right

[cloud sinew]

mercury is +1 mult, jupiter is +2

[undone talon]

for mult

yh

[undone talon]

we js proved it isnt

[echo sphinx]

ye almost

[undone talon]

uranus is better in both

[frank grove]

explain this

[patent root]

Bee is my worse nightmare

[undone talon]

this is such a great reskin

[strange compass]

You are not likely to get Ace,2,3,5,8s?

[undone talon]

did u make it

[cloud sinew]

chips scaling matters more with on-score +mult, and jupiter has slower chips scaling and is HARDER to play than two pair

[patent root]

Noh

[undone talon]

sad times

wld have been funny if u made ir

[cloud sinew]

Modded content belongs in #⚙・modding-general

[undone talon]

guys is asperite good to make reskins

[flat tiger]

what hands are you playing? You surely arent playing FH until mid late game, if you even play FH

[cloud sinew]

TWO PAIR

[strange compass]

Btw this is the same amount of ranks Steven can have

[undone talon]

indeed

[frank grove]

two pairs!!!

[echo sphinx]

its call two pair you flushwit

[cloud sinew]

we have BEEN saying this

[ebon condor]

yes but it is paid sometimes

[strange compass]

You play two pair

[flat tiger]

you are still doing 4 cards intead of 5 and 2 pair is not a free draw, you can still miss especially with only fib cards

[patent root]

Even they have script for bee movie

[cloud sinew]

its free unless you get it on steam

[undone talon]

🥲

i will defend flush for my life

[cloud sinew]

its free on github /gen

[undone talon]

(even when i know it sucks objectively)

[frank grove]

you can miss a clubs flush too so your point is kinda void

[flat tiger]

you need a lot of fixing to have every 2 pair to be fib cards

[echo sphinx]

im sorry flushfan i need a worse slur

[ebon condor]

i know you have to "compile it yourself" but idk how complicated that is

[cloud sinew]

and you can still miss with flush

[strange compass]

Fibonacci has 5 ranks. Thas the same amount of ranks as Steven

[undone talon]

wait asperite is freeon github but paid on steam????????? 💀

[undone talon]

dw bro say waht u want ill defend it forever

[frank grove]

you dont need every single two pair to be the full fib having one pair in the two pair being fib compatable is usually fine

[flat tiger]

you only need a few moons, its a lot easier then killing all non fib cards/make enough fib cards

[strange compass]

Oh and you can also play 5 high straights with Fib for a bit

[echo sphinx]

give me a worse slur

[undone talon]

IDK?

um

[echo sphinx]

sob

i also rackin up smth

[ebon condor]

thats not a slur stupid

[patent root]

Bloodstone is here

[strange compass]

Fib is more flexible and better than Agate

[cloud sinew]

flusher

[undone talon]

onyx over fib only coz i love flushes

[icy hollow]

😭 what are u even doing bro

[ebon condor]

n*nlet

[flat tiger]

a few moon cards already make onyx online, which is 5 trigger base, you need a lot of fixing to even get your 2 paris to always be fib, which is only 4 cards at best

[echo sphinx]

HAHAAHAHHAHAHA i lpve that

[icy hollow]

Mf just spamming random imgs every like 2 mins

[patent root]

Idunno

[frank grove]

you need what? 2? 3? moons to have the same number of clubs as fib compatable cards in a default deck right?

13 vs 20 right

[undone talon]

flusher it is

[cloud sinew]

you lose less than 10% mult for over 30% faster chips scaling

[strange compass]

If that's your criteria then sure 💔

[flat tiger]

you dont always get to play all fib cards, you need them to appear in pairs, all your singles are useless

[patent root]

Your balatro wiki right

[echo sphinx]

imagine needing a few moon cards when Fibonacci needs nothing

[cloud sinew]

yeah i am balatro wiki

[undone talon]

tbh i pretty much agree that fib is better but ill defend flushes forever

[frank grove]

you dont always get to draw a clubs flush either so whats your point??

[flat tiger]

yeah with less triggers

[patent root]

So can use you

[undone talon]

the embodiment of the wiki

[echo sphinx]

ewch trigger is worth more u flusher

[cloud sinew]

all clubs before you have 5 are useless...

[strange compass]

A few moon cards. Fib needs a two pair from 5 ranks and has synergy with Hack and other jokers

[ebon condor]

what about on checkered deck with 9 handsize? checkmate

[patent root]

Bros nerd

[echo sphinx]

i dont draw a club flush = die
i dont draw a twopair = there's still a pair there

[undone talon]

"bros nerd"

[undone talon]

i must agree reluctantly

[patent root]

Wiki what's a balatro
@cloud sinew

[undone talon]

wiki whats a balatro 🔥

[echo sphinx]

amen

[ebon condor]

admittedly if youve scaled up uranus a pair probably isnt saving you for most of the game

[digital pewter]

not necessarily 🤓

[patent root]

Wiki what do you know all knowledge
@cloud sinew

[flat tiger]

you can ditch every non club and you can play any of the clubs as 5, and somehow we are pretending +7 5 times is worth then, best case +8 4 times

[undone talon]

bro is @ spamming

[cloud sinew]

because of chips scaling, yes

[tranquil steppe]

Hence 5x7 > 4x8

[strange compass]

I just don't fw with flush like I used to when I started playing the game. I would do flush alot but now I only do flush in hopes to pivot to F5H or F5

[cloud sinew]

you only lose 3 mult but you gain chips scaling

[frank grove]

+8 4 times once a round is better than +7 0 times cause you miss the flush draw

[ebon condor]

does bro live in a vacuum?

[patent root]

Wiki why is your is balatro wiki
@cloud sinew

[echo sphinx]

atp just sob lol

[cloud sinew]

stop pinging me

[undone talon]

makes me feel like a noob lmao

im abt to do my second gold stake

[flat tiger]

you can miss 2 pair draw or just dont draw fib cards or they dont form a pair

[patent root]

Wiki you are stupid
@cloud sinew

[cloud sinew]

same with flushes...

[undone talon]

bros getting banned

[icy hollow]

Ah. Name makes sense now... 🗣️

[cloud sinew]

shut up twin

[undone talon]

for spamming @

[undone talon]

😭

[patent root]

@cloud sinew sorry wiki

[flat tiger]

getting single fib means nothing while all clubs are useful???

[frank grove]

its more likely to miss a clubs flush than miss finding one pair of fib cards 😭

[celest cobalt]

i hit a balatro

[undone talon]

i still think im decent

[echo sphinx]

"you can miss a strush draw therefore neptune is shit"

[cloud sinew]

why are you comparing getting 1 fib rank to getting 5 clubs ???

[undone talon]

nearly got naneinf yesterday

[patent root]

Wiki why there's Jeff here

[undone talon]

an eternal mime rly fucked me up tho

[flat tiger]

because you can draw single fib cards and those are all useless

[undone talon]

on purple stake

[cloud sinew]

and you can draw single club cards

[echo sphinx]

yeah its called Straight

65432 straight

[patent root]

Wiki why is baron good

[icy hollow]

😭

[undone talon]

obv getting a naneinf doesnt directly show ur good at the game

[patent root]

Wiki are too dumb to answer baron

[flat tiger]

which gives +8 3 times, its even worse

[echo sphinx]

or a 5-ace straight if that gives WORST JOKER SUPERPOSITION an actual purpose

[undone talon]

but id like to think that ive gotten a lot better

and i can consistently win runs now

[echo sphinx]

yeah but literally double chip scaling planet

[frank grove]

better than +7 zero times cause you miss a clubs flush draw? and straights scale roughly 3x as fast lmao

[undone talon]

js a m,atter of grinding every gold stake now

including the boring decks

[flat tiger]

better then +8 zero times because you can miss your hand anyway?

[ebon condor]

to be fair you can also play a clubs straight

[cloud sinew]

you are either ragebaiting or stupid

[undone talon]

straight club flush

[cloud sinew]

you are not making valid comparisons

[patent root]

Wiki why there's jolly joker in this game
@cloud sinew

[echo sphinx]

neptune is not shit hooray

[undone talon]

bit mean

bro might not even be trying to rtagebait

[ebon condor]

is there a rule against being annoying so we can ping a mod

[patent root]

You know all knowledge in balatro @cloud sinew

[cloud sinew]

yeah thats why i said "or stupid"

[flat tiger]

fixing all the cards to be clubs is a lot easier then fixing the cards so you dont draw single or non fib cards

[echo sphinx]

bro is saying Straight draw procs fib three times is worse than. idk. 30 chips

[undone talon]

thats the mean bit

u do u

[frank grove]

explain this

[ebon condor]

because this seems a little bit extreme

[icy hollow]

Person was spamming in non english characters before so maybe can

[patent root]

Oh no

[undone talon]

even if his opinion sucks from ur perspective its never that deep

[tranquil steppe]

Not every differing opinion is rage bait (nor are they stupid)

[patent root]

We're dead

[strange compass]

Yes because 1. The difference is +3 mult, negligible.
2. Two Pair is better than Flush and Uranus scales higher than Jupiter
3. Fib has two pair, single pair, OAKs, 5 high straight with Superposition tarot gen, Steven and Wee and Hack synergy with 2s and many more like Bus.

[cloud sinew]

yeah mb

[flat tiger]

explain what? all single cards not forming a pair are useless and take up your hand space, unlike onyx build where you ditch all non clubs while only needing to moon

[cloud sinew]

sorry @flat tiger

[undone talon]

dwdw

[echo sphinx]

yeah its called not reading the room

[tranquil steppe]

#fightbullying2026

[undone talon]

its all good

[cloud sinew]

youre one to talk

[undone talon]

balatro community is the best

[tranquil steppe]

I don’t bully

[undone talon]

we shld keep it like this

[patent root]

I love because it has wiki

[ebon condor]

we always end arguments on a peaceful note!

[undone talon]

brotha. 😭

[cloud sinew]

pinging me like im grok lol

[strange compass]

Not rlly. Strength and Death exist plus if you use enough of them you can transition to oaks

[frank grove]

to get clubs flushes (which is a bad hand anyway) you need 3 moons to not even reach the same number of cards that fib works with by default, and strengths, deaths and standard packs still exists whilst playing towards a hand with better chip scaling

[patent root]

Yes you are grok

[undone talon]

ahlie ik

[undone talon]

thats a violation

bro js got called a clanker

[echo sphinx]

guys lets make fib bad

[undone talon]

i wldnt have it

[undone talon]

i agree as i am the flush lover

aka the flusher

[echo sphinx]

fib is dogshit becuase it needs uncommon Hack to work

[patent root]

Grok why did rename your name
@cloud sinew

[unreal topaz]

also since 2 pair is four cards you can just play more with the same amount of them in your deck

[flat tiger]

getting 50 more chips at lv 10 means a lot less unless you literally get zero Xmult

[frank grove]

getting a pair of fib cards is not as difficult as drawing a clubs flush

[unreal topaz]

straight up

[strange compass]

With Onyx Agate you might transition to Flush House or Flush Fives which at that point Onyx will be useless cuz those hands already have so much that you'd rather get more x mults.

[cloud sinew]

its not fair to compare the extrwme case because thats not what will happen for most runs in a8.
its lkke if i said idol is better than arrowhead because 2^32 > +250 on a flush five in a 100% fixed deck

[frank grove]

why would i care about on scoring x mult with 2 pair?

[echo sphinx]

just draw a twopair with two clubs, silly! also synergy with our beloved Seeing Double 🗣️

[undone talon]

arrowhead is amazing early hear me out

[patent root]

Magic

[undone talon]

like i mean for early antes

[undone talon]

BRO #⚙・modding-general

[patent root]

Sorry lah

[icy hollow]

This guy might be thr goat

[flat tiger]

how is that even extreme cases? drawing fib cards that are not pairs is common AF

[strange compass]

Seeing double not helping Onyx Agate cuz it needs multiple suits is so funny

[frank grove]

have you played the game?

[echo sphinx]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[cloud sinew]

youre comparing a 100% fixed deck, thats why its an extreme case

[undone talon]

i dont even have seeing doouble unlocked

[echo sphinx]

a 100% fixed deck and fib still wins that

[flat tiger]

you only need halfthe deck to be clubs to get multiple flush a round, in fact not even half

[undone talon]

i spent like 50 hours playing balatro on an all unlocked profile

[echo sphinx]

cuz 8 is bigger than 7

[undone talon]

and then decided to play a fresh filw

[strange compass]

You can get around this with wild cards tbf but wild cards....

[frank grove]

just get 4 moon cards and then its about as good as fib barely

what are you talking about

[echo sphinx]

4 strengths:

[undone talon]

im missing hit the road seeing double and like two others but i cant be asked to unlock them

[patent root]

Everyone knows that

[undone talon]

like THROWBACK

do i intentionallly not unlock throwback

😭

[echo sphinx]

and 4 strengths is miles better

[ebon condor]

pretty difficult joker to not unlock iirc

[echo sphinx]

in order to actually match 1 to 1 its closer to 12 moons

[undone talon]

4 strengths and u can move into 4oak

w fib

WHY AM I DEFENDING FIB NO

[patent root]

Who want a horse

[echo sphinx]

Eris will unite us, at the end of the west wind

[undone talon]

🔥

[patent root]

It says
Horsey
Hi I am horsey

[cloud sinew]

7 strengths or 7 moon cards gets you to to the same # of ideal cards in deck

[undone talon]

eris is the goat

[cloud sinew]

because fib has more cards in a base deck

[patent root]

I never used eris

[strange compass]

And with strengths you can play oaks easily

[flat tiger]

because during a round it is "ditch all non club" vs "do I ditch some fib card or hope the fib cards form a pair"

[undone talon]

whats everyones FAVOURITE RANK (like ace or kings)

[strange compass]

I also wanna mention fib has more synergies like hack, wee, superposition, bus and Steven

[echo sphinx]

yeah this is why ur games suck

[strange compass]

Oh and Scholar!

[cloud sinew]

thats a mental fix, that doesnt make it easier to draw

[compact gazelle]

what the hell did I stumble upon

[echo sphinx]

fib vs onyx

[patent root]

Balatro might be hiding something

[ebon condor]

is your ass drawing a2358 every round and then crying what are you talking about

[flat tiger]

it does because club has zero trade off, non club means nothing, while single cards take up sapce and may never form a pair during the round

[frank grove]

how about that one boss that just kills your run

[icy hollow]

I mean, i think fib is stronger but. I mean the discarding is actually something thats real.

[compact gazelle]

ever played even one gemstone straight

[echo sphinx]

surely Jupiter can overcome this

[flat tiger]

you mean bosses can counter builds? like dying to needle and flint?

[cloud sinew]

<@&1133519078540185692> with hammers, softly.(spamming me with pings, posting modded content after being told to move chanells MULTIPLE TIMES)

[compact gazelle]

+15 +2 hell yeah the run is saved

[frank grove]

no like the suit boss that means onyx cannot function

[cloud sinew]

onyx has a direct counter

[icy hollow]

Slightly countering boss is different from almost insta lose boss

[compact gazelle]

they ALWAYS find boss prot trust 😭

[icy hollow]

Which onyx has

[tranquil steppe]

Don’t let them win. Keep fighting the good fight

[icy hollow]

And fib doesnt

[patent root]

It's a voucher

Sorry wiki

[flat tiger]

bosses are just "you score less so you need more scoring" most of the time anyway, and like I said all +mult on trigger are not strong in the first place and should nto be your main scoring

[strange compass]

Ok but Two Pair can be done more times than flush and Uranus outruns Jupiter plus Fib can transit to oaks while Onyx kinda stays on flush until you the secret hand which at that point Onyx is useless cuz they already have so much mult.

[icy hollow]

If ur using club flushes with agate, then agate sgould by your main +mult

[compact gazelle]

||cruiser is “helping” the clown||

[undone talon]

shes talking abt the one that makes clubs debuffed

[icy hollow]

Or a significant enough portion of it

[undone talon]

which wld KILL ur run

[strange compass]

Clubs boss and the eye hurts Onyx more cuz it can only do flush while fib can do more hands

[frank grove]

well onyx can do other hands too

[cloud sinew]

it can, but youre not fixing towards it

[compact gazelle]

and then of course tribe for xmult
what else :3

[frank grove]

yeah

[flat tiger]

yeah, like when the game offer face card jokers all game then kill you with plant in ante 7, happens, big deal? it just happens sometimes

[echo sphinx]

and get countered because quote "nonclubs are useless"

[patent root]

Slay the princess I will give my drivers license

[ebon condor]

DONT TAKE THE BAIT!!!! HOLD THE LINE!!!!!

[frank grove]

what

[undone talon]

[flat tiger]

you already randomly die to flint and needle no matter the build you go for

[echo sphinx]

this is a good planet

this is a bad planet

[flat tiger]

soemtimes boss kills you

[frank grove]

needle sure, but flint isnt usually 100% a run killer

[patent root]

Two pair

[compact gazelle]

larp as fish

[strange compass]

Jupiter plus Onyx Agate is beating Violet Vessel fr

[undone talon]

out of a judgment lmao

[strange compass]

Where do you get your xmult on this flush Onyx run can I ask that

[patent root]

I used two pair all the time

[echo sphinx]

twopair scores 33% more planet chips 🥀

[flat tiger]

like every boss, depends on builds, you jsut die to some bosses at times

[compact gazelle]

photochad users crying cause their score got quartered and now they lose to the white stake ante 6 flint

[icy hollow]

A boss countering a joker and not countering the other is still a consideration though if youre discussing strength

[ebon condor]

well from the club based xmult joker of course :)

[frank grove]

sure, but why would i deck fix towards something that has a direct counter and also towards a bad hand?

[icy hollow]

Onyx loses to club debuff. Fib doesny have that

[undone talon]

the tribe muahahahahahaha

[flat tiger]

because you dont get to choose what joker get offered?

[echo sphinx]

imagine not winning in one hand with club flush

[strange compass]

2x mult for flush for 2x mult from duo

[icy hollow]

Any xmult joker? This isnt rly any point

[frank grove]

yeah, but you dont get to choose when you get 7 moons either

[ebon condor]

you choose what you deckfix towards though?

[undone talon]

????

[ebon condor]

if i get an a1 agate that doesnt mean im hanging my hat on that

[compact gazelle]

you have free will mf you don’t need to look at shop 1 and go “yes yes I’m playing smiley face sock now”

[flat tiger]

like I said, +mult on trigger are weak in the first place, it should nto be your main scoring to begin with

[ebon condor]

wheres your main scoring then???????????

up your ass?

[patent root]

Wiki how unlock plasma deck
@cloud sinew

[flat tiger]

theres a reason why grimbo and buses are loved way more then fib and onyx?????

[frank grove]

but i thought you didnt get to choose what jokers you got?

[flat tiger]

red cards?

[undone talon]

this is 0/10 ragebait bro

[compact gazelle]

yes let’s get a second good plus mult to synergize with agate! gluttonous joker cmon in man!
if you wanna actually make that argument 2p has trousers :3

[ebon condor]

grimbo with flushes????

[patent root]

Oh he ded

[ebon condor]

damn

[flat tiger]

well yeah, and I am saying flushes are easier to fix then specifically needing fibs cards and them forming pairs

[ebon condor]

i didnt think this convo could get any more stupid

[patent root]

What the fuck

[compact gazelle]

all the cards are green yknow :D

[strange compass]

Fib has more options than Onyx like Duo and Oaks, Hologram will work better for Fib because you can get Fibonacci cards more easily from packs, seeing double, and black board (Onyx CAN use this too but it has to play the clubs instead of letting them stay in the hand while Fib has it more easier I think)

[ebon condor]

hold up let her cook

[undone talon]

mod might be in the nested folder

[strange compass]

Yes you are not building your deck towards it lol.

[primal heath]

Guys I just lost a1 big blind with 5 hands (skipped small blind)

[strange compass]

Fib can be sold and replaced for transition into other hands like oaks or pairs while with Onyx you had to make clubs for it

[icy hollow]

I mean im not that other guy. You dont need to play clubs flushes only with agate. You can use most of those with agate.

And yes, in those cases agate will be acting as a worse fib, but its viable there

[strange compass]

Also with Onyx you were primarily upgrading Jupiter I assume so less hand variety when you try to pivot.

[ebon condor]

which tbf not the worst thing you could be doing, thats blackboard value, thats seeing double value

[patent root]

Oh he hiding something

[frank grove]

yeah of course but their point is that onyx is better cause you can fix for clubs flushes

[pale wolf]

whats the difference between playing 2pair with agate and 2pair with fibonacci

[echo sphinx]

onyx is better because of speculatice blackboard value 🗣️

[patent root]

Wiki why there's a zebra here

[strange compass]

Same goes for fib. You can sneak in some fib cards into whatever you're playing.

[icy hollow]

Yea, i was more directly replying to the xmult point

[echo sphinx]

seeing double idk

[icy hollow]

Which i dont rly think is valid here

[frank grove]

yeah the x mult thing doesnt really matter

[strange compass]

Speculative black board where you have to play the clubs instead of saving them so you don't get the x mult

[icy hollow]

@frank grove this is what i was replying too

[strange compass]

Two pair with Fib is easier?

[pale wolf]

you can more readily play into 2pair fibonacci with full value at first, but clubs are easier by like 1.25x to make than fibonacci ranks

also fibonacci is more mult even at peak 2pairing

[icy hollow]

Sorry if im being unclear 😭 i think fib is stronger too, but like the xmult thing just isnt rly relevant

[strange compass]

The x mult thing I brought up cuz they were saying that if you deck fix for Agate flushes it will be better than Fib so I had to ask if you did deck fix it for flush Agate where is x mult coming from.

[strange compass]

Sure

[flat tiger]

+mult on trigger is also "you try going that direction but you want to get out of it later"

[ebon condor]

yeah so why would i build towards it

[frank grove]

in a 1v1 fib vs onyx first pack no stickers which are you taking and why

[pale wolf]

because you have no other immediate guaranteed options

[flat tiger]

onyx is easier to build around and stay alive especially early rounds

[frank grove]

explain that

[flat tiger]

2 pair sucks at the begining

[pale wolf]

not with 16-32 mult

[ebon condor]

ykw fair enough i was being facetious

[echo sphinx]

fibbonacci

[frank grove]

yeah a two pair even with just one pair of fib clears the first 4 rounds right?

[strange compass]

You can opt out of Fib and still benefit from the triggers cuz you didn't do anything drastic for it (or atleast not as drastic for Agate). When you pivot from Agate you have made clubs into your deck and your main planet is Jupiter.

[pale wolf]

sounds right with sufficiently high chip ranks

[strange compass]

With Fib you just made more of the same ranks which isn't as drastic.

[flat tiger]

we are still talking about ante 8 right? jupiter is enough scaling just like uranus

[pale wolf]

also I guess Fibonacci kind of cataracts this because most of its ranks are low

[frank grove]

yeah its like 800 with low chips which is a two hander on round 4 which is fine

[ebon condor]

making clubs in your deck is ok?

[pale wolf]

cataracts lol
counteracts

[flat tiger]

unless you get pants with 2 pair, you are not really out scaling jupiter that much

[frank grove]

what

[icy hollow]

😭

[undone talon]

i, the flusher, am evolving

i will not succumb to temptation

[pale wolf]

you're overestimating jupiter scaling

[ebon condor]

$8 😭

[frank grove]

guys two pair only good if you get trousers now i guess 😭

[echo sphinx]

this is your planet btw

[undone talon]

shhhh

i lost my econ for the shortcut joker

cartomancer is my econ

im waiting for a temperance ahahaha

[echo sphinx]

and this is one possible fibonacci planet

[strange compass]

+1 base mult and 10 chips above HC for a five card is crazyyyyyyy

[ocean current]

Hello

[patent root]

Hello plant

[patent root]

Pvzz sunflower

[echo sphinx]

can you imagine being a onyx defender

[pale wolf]

does anyone have a pic like this but with the planet scaling rates

[echo sphinx]

"oh but it just needs 7 Moon to match 7 Strength"

[undone talon]

that wld be fire

[icy hollow]

I mean onyx isnt that terrible either. Just cus its worse than fib doesnt mean its terrible

[pale wolf]

if it doesn't exist I'll make it later

[undone talon]

here i come eris

[echo sphinx]

here is a planet you're competing with

with 7 strength

[frank grove]

best we have is the wiki for now i guess

[patent root]

Do don't you ask real wiki in this server

[echo sphinx]

honestly would be nice without the sus poker hands lol

[strange compass]

Venus, Mars, Uranus, 5 oaks can be used with Fib while Agate has flush and F5 and F5H which don't need Onyx cuz they have enough base mult so it just has Jupiter Flush 💔

[echo sphinx]

no one disagrees that onyx is a good take

[flat tiger]

yeah, you need 3 levels higher to even match jupiter chips, then its just 5 chips per level, and we are to pretend it make a massive difference? not to mention any kind of Xmult just make jupiter better

[pale wolf]

onyx agate is definitely enough for me to build into clubs if ive already seen the club boss a1 or a2

[echo sphinx]

3 levels to match a 5 card hand is a pathetic show from flush side

[pale wolf]

Fibonacci doesn't have that security

[icy hollow]

What

[echo sphinx]

its fib vs onyx

[ebon condor]

secret info nobody wants you to know: xmult affects both of them the same

[echo sphinx]

not onyx vs ante 3 big blind

[pale wolf]

(joke)

[flat tiger]

because thats when the +1 mult on jupiter comes in????

[echo sphinx]

before considering the game is pairslop oriented

[frank grove]

also in the two pair vs flush, two pairs are less vulnerable to bosses and draws

[echo sphinx]

3oak is just. better

more devil more discard more digging

[strange compass]

Eh. I don't like Onyx because it's the most lazy suit joker design and it being worse than Fib makes it suck even more for me. Its good for early-mid ante but that's about it.

[echo sphinx]

and still having a better planet scaling than this flusher @flat tiger

[ebon condor]

unless youre talking about onscore xmult, that doesnt matter for xmult

[echo sphinx]

heck jupiter scales better than your wages

[patent root]

долгор эмээ байж гэнэ 7 ямаа

[icy hollow]

O yea i agree on that. Design wise its easily my least favorite joker

Just a gluttunous joker but stronger

[patent root]

I forgor

Bye

[strange compass]

Yes but I think Jupiter has more limited x mult jokers than something like two pair which can use Duo and seeing double while Jupiter really just has Tribe with 2x mult as its own x mult joker.

[flat tiger]

if anything Jolly Joker and Sly Joker are the most "lazy and unexciting" jokers, at least jimbo is the base joker

[frank grove]

i mean you can use duo and seeing double on flushes still (wild cards i guess 😭)

[echo sphinx]

onyx agate

[ebon condor]

tbf now you get disabled by 4 boss blinds instead of 1

[strange compass]

They are commons so I don't mind them being generic. Onyx is uncommon and super uncreative.

[ebon condor]

but yeah flushes dont have quite as good access to xmult

[strange compass]

Also Jimbo is actually amazing ante 1 cuz it's a low cost joker you can buy and beat the whole ante with easily.

[icy hollow]

Wild card debuffed still works with seeing double or no?

[ebon condor]

blackboard is harder to play (by one card sure, but that makes a pretty big difference)

[ebon condor]

no because they need to score

[icy hollow]

Damn i never knew

1984

[ebon condor]

hell you can play flowergoat with 2p

[echo sphinx]

thats a myth idk abt that

[frank grove]

ive done it before its annoying but its fine

[flat tiger]

flowerpot is worst then both onyx and fib

[ebon condor]

better with straights fs but its playable

in a pinch

[frank grove]

Yeah i use flowerpot quite a lot on straight runs

[patent sail]

okay cro

[strange compass]

Atleast straights has high scaling to make up for less x mult, with Jupiter it just feels clunky af.

[frank grove]

thats why straights are the goat

[ebon condor]

straights are also fun 💯

[patent sail]

i saw soul, thought im getting something good finally

my smile faded quicker than it ever has before

[frank grove]

god i love abandoned deck 🔥

[echo sphinx]

a flusher wil never try drawing for straights with onyx

[spring radish]

-# you know what I'm here for
anyone interested in playing balatro with 3+ players?
-# such as co-op, 2v2, FFA
ignore if no
-# and now im leaving bye

[spring radish]

they'll draw 4 of a kind

[strange compass]

Fib also has synergy with 5 high straights and Superposition with 4/5 cards being Fib btw

[echo sphinx]

no they wont

[spring radish]

yes

[echo sphinx]

once flush, always flush

unless flush five

[pale wolf]

-# ykwihf
aiipbw3p?
-# sac2f
iin
-# anilb

[patent sail]

abcd
efghi?
jklm
nopqrst!
uvwxyz

[spring radish]

you missed a

[patent sail]

no i did not

[spring radish]

yes you did

[patent sail]

first letter

[ebon condor]

-# HELP ME IM TRAPPED INSIDE THIS MESSAGE
The only way to free me is by forwarding this email to 5 other people
-# IF YOU DON'T DO THIS I WILL TORMENT YOUR SOUL FOR ETERNITY
And you don't want that
-# make the right choice

[patent sail]

its right there

[spring radish]

that's b

[frank grove]

this superpos is high rolling like crazy 🔥

[patent sail]

at this point i might just kill trib

[undone talon]

what for the baseball

nice pfp btw

[patent sail]

idk only hologram for now

[undone talon]

i see u changed it

[undone talon]

exactly

[patent sail]

trib hasnt triggered once btw

[undone talon]

ditching trib wld be saddening

[undone talon]

oh

lmaooo

[ebon condor]

better than the value trib is getting

[spring radish]

i mean you might be seeing things man

[ebon condor]

with groker

[undone talon]

grimbo

[patent sail]

yeahhh bye trib

[spring radish]

why is bro good at drawing so fast tho

[patent sail]

triboulet found dead behind the casino building

[ebon condor]

this is ass 😭

[patent sail]

dude standard packs do NOT exist

where are they

[spring radish]

better than my drawings

i can barely draw a stickman

[patent sail]

is it time to shoehorn in my bloodstone catwoman fanart yet

[ebon condor]

hold on

[icy hollow]

Guys. I just lost on yellow deck white stake with an x11 yorick

🗣️

[undone talon]

aint no way

how

[patent sail]

in endless

[icy hollow]

No

Ante 5

[undone talon]

HUH

[icy hollow]

🗣️

[undone talon]

x11 ante5?

wtf

[patent sail]

crimson heart (0.01% chance to appear as ante 5 boss)

[icy hollow]

I had merry andy and juggler

🗣️

[rain temple]

does perished jokers get stickers by ante 8

thats good to know

[patent sail]

crimson heart helped me get a sticker on banana by debuffing it on last hand

making sure it wont explode

[heady river]

guys im new what is a crimson heart

[patent sail]

ante 8 boss

very nasty one

[ebon condor]

heres a better bee just for you <3

[spring radish]

thank you, I'll bee-love this

such a "sweet" gesture

[heady river]

whats an ante?

[patent sail]

uhhhhhh play the game please

not trying to be rude

[spring radish]

why do people name sky all uses the same user font lol

I've met like 4 people named sky in balatro community alone using the same nitro font

[heady river]

its cool thats why

sighhhhh i need to make a vanilla profile and do some gold staking but gahhhh I hate painted deck

bweh,,

[tranquil cedar]

hilarious

[patent sail]

non-perishable challenge ass run

[tranquil cedar]

also, green here?

[patent sail]

nat negative perishable popcorn 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[spring radish]

peak

[patent sail]

what is this game even about

[spring radish]

not balatro

[heady river]

how didyou rename negative to evil

tell me

i must

[patent sail]

do you have steammodded?

[heady river]

yes

i have bmm open rn

i know how to install mods beh,,,,

[spring radish]

yall like telling me to go to mod general right??? GO TO MOD GENERAL RAHHHHHHHH

[heady river]

very serious

[spring radish]

unreal

[patent sail]

copy en-us.lua from balatro exe file, paste that into appdata/roaming/balatro/localization and youre free to edit any text in game

[heady river]

whats a mod general?

[patent sail]

(create localization folder if you dont have one)

[bleak bolt]

wraith or trans

[heady river]

like opening the exe in 7zip orrr?

[patent sail]

if you have 7zip you can edit the en-us.lua without even copying it actually i think, i dont and i did it that way

[patent sail]

also yes, 7zip/winrar/anything of that sprt

[heady river]

Yeah thatd be easier, also i was joking about the ante and crimson heart stuff </3

[patent sail]

i got it as soon as i saw yoy talking about gold stake 🐎🔥🔥

[patent sail]

either way is pretty easy, i just dont have 7zip to do it the "simple" way