🕹・game-discussion

[serene forge]

can't have your playstyle changed if pair is what gets you wins 90% of the time 🧠

[proven gulch]

no one here hates rtb

[lost vault]

is your entire purpose to just ragebait

[humble gulch]

Real

[lost vault]

if so you suck at it

[ruby mulch]

no just why would 3x mult be monumental

[proven gulch]

xmult more like xmid

[humble gulch]

Blackboard is x3 if you play pair

[turbid nova]

it is

[stark acorn]

seriously pair meta is what’s preventing most people from realizing how busted obelisk is

[humble gulch]

From 100,000 to 300,000

[lost vault]

thats literally what your baron is doing

[ruby mulch]

yes but its more than 3x mult if i was doing pairs

[turbid nova]

I ❤️ OBELISK

[stark acorn]

because GOD forbid you have to play a different hand type

[frank grove]

no its not?

[lost vault]

but you arent doing pairs

[humble gulch]

70,000 is losing with 4 hands, a x3 makes it 210,000

[rigid mesa]

The plant is simply an unfair mechanic

[ruby mulch]

ik bc its red stake

i dont have to do anything and i'll win

[lost vault]

maybe if you rely pn face card builds

[stark acorn]

plant has killed a single one of my runs

[serene forge]

in other words, scoring a sufficient amount is necessary to win

[rigid mesa]

I mean there shouldn't be an auto lose button though

[tulip oak]

no photochad for you

[humble gulch]

And xmult is good doing that

[frank grove]

there isnt?

[humble gulch]

General xmult, not card xmult

:3

[tulip oak]

violet vessel hurts whenever i score over 100k

[serene forge]

the auto lose button is building face cards when you know that the plant exists

[frank grove]

losing against plant is genuinely a planning issue

[serene forge]

not the plant itself

[uneven moon]

i just hit my first score with an e 🥹 i screamed

[rigid mesa]

It needs a rework

Like

[frank grove]

what

[serene forge]

if you build into face cards and don't give yourself an out that's a legitimate skill issue

[frank grove]

no it doesnt

[tulip oak]

good job bro

[dawn summit]

definitely does not lol

[humble gulch]

There was a zombie in your lawn

[stark acorn]

literally no??

plant is fine

[dawn summit]

if you lose to the plant consistently that is very much a player issue

[rigid mesa]

If hand contains face card set base chips and mult to 0

[serene forge]

no

[rigid mesa]

I just lost yo it right now

[stark acorn]

what game are you fucking playing bro

[dawn summit]

thats fine

just need to improve

[turbid nova]

just play ANYTHING but photochad

[serene forge]

blue screen

you didnt lose

[humble gulch]

It's endless, it doesn't matter

[tranquil otter]

hell play photochad and then make like one glass ace

[serene forge]

also plant doesnt counter photochad

[rigid mesa]

I mean it wasnt a skill issue because there was nothing I could do

[serene forge]

yes there was

[stark acorn]

assuming your doing 8-ante runs plant is like

[rigid mesa]

Wdym the chad has to score

[humble gulch]

Black deck ❤️‍🩹

[shell dagger]

I see $318 of reroll money

[frank grove]

you already won the run who car go next

[serene forge]

glass cards

[stark acorn]

a c-tier difficulty boss

[serene forge]

aka chad is good and photo is shit

because all photo is doing is making your face cards into glass

[dawn summit]

relying purely on face cards on your run before the plant has appeared is purely a skill issue, throughout the game there is so much you couldve done to prevent this

[tranquil otter]

maybe bosses should ignore jokers and enhancements and stuff when choosing which cards to debuff

[serene forge]

so when you cant use faces, just make your own glass cards

[dawn summit]

you just didnt think about it

[serene forge]

lmao

[dawn summit]

which is the skill issue

[humble gulch]

Just one face card into glass

[patent sail]

balatrodle in 2 streak 2

[humble gulch]

❤️‍🩹

[rigid mesa]

Thats actually my max chips

[stark acorn]

you should already be making glass if you’re doing photochad anyway

[tranquil otter]

this would be a good buff to a lot of jokers that need it

[serene forge]

using bull in endless is another problem

lol

[shell dagger]

i think your mult is more of an issue

[rigid mesa]

No its rich get Richer

[frank grove]

why are you going endless on challenges bro

[serene forge]

bruh why are you playing endless on a challenge deck 😭

[rigid mesa]

I pressed the unlock all button

[stark acorn]

son

[humble gulch]

Completely unrelated

[rigid mesa]

Whats the rhe ? I went endless in challenge because discovery are useless

[frank grove]

"look over there"

[viral raft]

"Blackboard is terrible" same guy who plays baron for 1-1.5Xmult btw

[ruby mulch]

see that absolute joke of a baron flush run still got to ante 10

[stark acorn]

literally the only time you should be hitting that button is for mods/your data got wiped

[serene forge]

you can't even discover things in challenge fyi

[ruby mulch]

red stake is nothing

[humble gulch]

Gg

[stark acorn]

grimbo

[frank grove]

or second profiles

[serene forge]

looks like i missed the patch notes that change what numbers mean

[humble gulch]

Lol

[ruby mulch]

buddy

[tranquil otter]

damn i already got the whole ass naneinf setup in like ante 18

[ruby mulch]

theres this voucher called hieroglyph

[viral raft]

false! you can discover Throwback!

[ruby mulch]

i used it when i got to ante 10

[tranquil otter]

guess ill just skip for like 8 antes

[serene forge]

burger is bad here

[tranquil otter]

oh wow i didnt know thanks for telling me

[humble gulch]

That's not how highest ante work

[dawn summit]

gg

[frank grove]

thats not how that works at all 😭

[stark acorn]

look again

[ruby mulch]

i literally did

[serene forge]

happy to help :D

[ruby mulch]

but ok

whatever yall

[rigid mesa]

You only needed 50k I needed 600 mil

[viral raft]

with that logic i can win gold stakes if i take Hiero then i lost in ante 8

[ruby mulch]

made it to ante 9 apparently

[serene forge]

skill issue for playing endless ngl

[frank grove]

you would lose in ante 10 anyway 😭

[serene forge]

yeah after a certain point it's not even the bosses that kill you

[patent sail]

one glass would do the job of that photo btw

[serene forge]

you just won't hit endless scaling

[rigid mesa]

Rate 2 recent engines

[serene forge]

but yeah i'm pretty confident you still win that

with a glass

[ruby mulch]

https://medal.tv/games/balatro/clips/mMCeLIST3LDyh-YkP?invite=cr-MSxaalIsNDYyODQxNjg0

[turbid nova]

ante 11-12 is usually where most of my runs die if I keep going

[serene forge]

who invited this loser

[ruby mulch]

ante 10 hieroglyph

[stark acorn]

who invited marble joker

[humble gulch]

Guh

[serene forge]

address me 🐘

[humble gulch]

Come on

[patent sail]

fire up balala calculator ngl

[stark acorn]

sell it

burn it

[viral raft]

roud 8 in ante 5????

[stark acorn]

destory it

[rigid mesa]

He was sold for brainstorm

[turbid nova]

throwback value

[full rune]

When is Straight going to be moved above Flush in the score ranking list

[serene forge]

address me

[frank grove]

ante 6 round 9 ? what are we doing

[viral raft]

what

[serene forge]

not unless they change the rules of poker

[patent sail]

its below in real poker so

[serene forge]

shouldve skipped 2 more times

[stark acorn]

you have no +mult there

[rigid mesa]

I got brainstorm from that rare tag

[stark acorn]

all that xmult is going nowhere

[rigid mesa]

Nice

[turbid nova]

69 is not the funni number anymore

[patent sail]

taking rare tags in tge big 26 😭

[full rune]

But Straight scales way faster than flush.

[serene forge]

and then you lost one round later

how does that feel

[serene forge]

yes

because straights are harder to make

[stark acorn]

yea it’s way harder to make

[serene forge]

in this game

[humble gulch]

Taking skips in the big 2189

[rigid mesa]

It was wroth it for the insane loadout

[full rune]

But it is below flush in the score rank screen

[turbid nova]

throwback value

[patent sail]

the list is based on real poker

[ruby vessel]

Finally won inflation. Thanks to everyone for giving advice it def helped

[serene forge]

because flushes are better in real poker

that's the entire reason

[shell dagger]

That’s because it is more likely to draw in regular poker

[turbid nova]

but balala has the suit changers

so flushes are way easier

[shell dagger]

But when you have 8 hand size and discarding power and suit tarots it’s a different story

[serene forge]

yes

[viral raft]

you welcome! (i did nothing)

[stark acorn]

there’s also the existence of the discard button

[brazen blade]

It’s over.

[stark acorn]

groundbreaking technology I know

[serene forge]

skill issue plant doesnt counter photochad

[patent sail]

i take all the negative skips i see knowing full well im not getting SHIT out of it and will probably die 🐎🔥

[dawn summit]

wow another one

[turbid nova]

are people gon keep posting their plant losses

[serene forge]

also can i ask why you ecto'd a smiley face

[frank grove]

or why they have half 😭

[stark acorn]

how to scare 80% of balatro players

[patent sail]

why isnt photo copied here

[full rune]

Lmao

[turbid nova]

why take an eternal smiley in the first place

[ruby vessel]

Shit ❎
Temperance value ✅
Egg? Never heard of her

[humble gulch]

Come on, I don't think only 20% are good players

[serene forge]

uses ecto
gets nothing useful because no money
loses 1 handsize for no reason at all and dies

[viral raft]

same 80% who sell Chicot btw

[serene forge]

pretty common occurrence

[serene forge]

true

[brazen blade]

Who

[stark acorn]

if you sell chicot I think you get put on a list

[dawn summit]

doesnt sound unreasonable if anything thats probably lenient

same with most games

[viral raft]

Jimbo's list

[patent sail]

ONE of those days its gonna hit a joker i dont have a sticker on yet

[full rune]

I think ecto is my least used spectral card

[turbid nova]

you're right it's probably less

tbh I don't think I'm even that good either

[serene forge]

think about how bad the average r/balatro user is at this game then think about how theyre likely above average because the average person isn't going to reddit for games

[stark acorn]

I’m probably like average at this game honestly

[viral raft]

less than 2% can barely get C+ what do you expect 😭

[stark acorn]

I just consume a lot of balatro content

[patent sail]

surprised plant didnt pull up to this one

[turbid nova]

C+ is still a big time investment

[serene forge]

its probably weegee or sigil for me

[full rune]

What is your black deck token color

[humble gulch]

Only on Steam

Lol

[stark acorn]

like green stake I think

I genuinely just hate playing it

[viral raft]

true but is the most played thingy with mobile

[patent sail]

sigil

[serene forge]

what i see in the mirror vs what i dream of being

[turbid nova]

gold

[full rune]

Good player maybe

[turbid nova]

it was my 3rd gold in main acc

[humble gulch]

Is this a trans joke

[patent sail]

listen i wanted that baron sticker

he was orange

[serene forge]

kind of

it's also a joke about how baron fucking sucks

[humble gulch]

Real

[stark acorn]

should’ve been a white stake sticker

[patent sail]

we dont talk about my past baron wins

[humble gulch]

I guess a purple wouldn't be bad

[patent sail]

baron is only ever good when you have stm alongside it for flat mult to 1,5x

[frank grove]

no, no it wouldnt 🔥

[shell dagger]

fist can enable it

[full rune]

Baron sacrifices discard efficiency

[turbid nova]

I had 2 barons with brain storm and fist once

potential joker

[serene forge]

hermit in the purple seal in the certificate

no

[patent sail]

things it takes fpr him to do something

[serene forge]

hermit in the fool in the

[serene forge]

idk what im saying

too many variables

[tranquil otter]

decided to crank out a quick naneinf today

[turbid nova]

to be fair he did get me to ante 19

[shell dagger]

nyaneinf

[turbid nova]

maybe I'm mixing up 2 runs

idk

[patent sail]

19? whats that. i dont know anything above 8

[turbid nova]

I've had two (2) successful ante 8 baron runs

[patent sail]

3 for me

2 of those were with stm carrying his ass 😭

[turbid nova]

lol

[tranquil otter]

I kinda wanna try and get the perma naneinf where you score really really close to naneinf and then your stats page shows naneinf but it doesnt bug out and get reset

[serene forge]

i think you meant to say you died in ante 2 8 times with baron

[patent sail]

other one was me getting lucky and making an ungodly (by ante 8 standards) amount of steel kings

[viral raft]

Strush

[serene forge]

took me 14 hits to get 1 blue seal the other day

[tranquil otter]

average seance hater

[patent sail]

i wonder if any challenge is naneinfable

probably rich get richer is? its pretty much free

[lost vault]

purrr

[cedar sable]

can we hang man this guy

[tranquil otter]

all of them besides jokerless probably

[turbid nova]

smartest r/balatro user

[cedar sable]

anyways

[tranquil otter]

maybe a couple others you cant naneinf

[cedar sable]

this is dumb i straight up sold

[patent sail]

goodluck naneinfing on blast off

[lost vault]

mad world

[viral raft]

idk i completly ignore endless run

[tranquil otter]

sounds like a MASSIVE pain but possible for sure

[shell dagger]

the hand size one would be fun to naneinf

[frank grove]

just get perkeo basically right?

[tranquil otter]

maybe a seeded run

[turbid nova]

blast off is hell on earth

[tranquil otter]

for most of them yeah

[patent sail]

golden needle is where its at 🐎🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[shell dagger]

and typecast

ante 4 perkeo setup have fun

[tranquil otter]

typecast naneinf would be fun to do like seeded or something but it sounds like reset hell

[humble gulch]

Life is good

[frank grove]

isnt current fastest naneinf like ante 5

[tranquil otter]

just spamming r until youu find bluepprint perkeo baron and mime by ante 4

[patent sail]

naneinf on Inflation

[shell dagger]

2 i thought

[humble gulch]

Bro

[tranquil otter]

2 with petroglyph tbf

[patent sail]

handing you the win

[frank grove]

yeah, was that one unseeded?

[shell dagger]

https://youtu.be/YCeX86X7B0Q?si=UPiJ5GRZR4h5DGyb

[shell dagger]

no

no idea what the fastest unseeded naneinf is

[frank grove]

this is crazy though

[shell dagger]

ye

[turbid nova]

I think dr spectered got sub hour?

[viral raft]

Dr with less than a hour i think

[shell dagger]

well the sub hour without perkeo was ante 23

he did the 20 minute one with perkeo but i forgot what ante that was

[humble gulch]

I don't even need square

[frank grove]

ante 9

[shell dagger]

that might be the record then

[frank grove]

that was 10 months ago surely someone has done it faster unseeded by now

[shell dagger]

dawg that run was insane tho

[patent sail]

naneinf on omelette when 🐎🔥

[humble gulch]

BRO

[uneven moon]

ive never been this far in the game so idk how to optimize my hand, is it better to copy the baron or the mime ?

[patent sail]

roll the win screen already

[shell dagger]

baron

[uneven moon]

yay thx

[humble gulch]

Sixth sense gave me another trance 😭

[patent sail]

trans!

[turbid nova]

great

[tranquil otter]

dont forget about the extra joker slot lol

[patent sail]

anyways i probably could use some sleep cuz its 12:31 am right now 🐎

[uneven moon]

ye but i dont find anything interesting :/

[tranquil otter]

happens

[patent sail]

blueprint!

reserved parking

[frank grove]

also i think you want golds still not too many steels

[uneven moon]

my entire deck is heart cards and the next boss is the head am i cooked

[serene forge]

trans

[azure copper]

just dont play hearts smh my head

[ruby vessel]

I’m an idiot and can’t read. Jokers don’t show up in the shop so I’ll never redeem the skip tags

[humble gulch]

The plant kills me, gg

[azure copper]

wait what

what challenge is that

[humble gulch]

Violet vessel does nothing, lol

[frank grove]

bram poker

[humble gulch]

Brain power

[ruby vessel]

I’m playing dram joker challenge where u have an eternal vampire and the only way to get jokers is buffoon packs. I thought I could take the skip tags and get a joker I didn’t realize they just apply it to the next joker in the shop and don’t give u a joker with that edition

[serene forge]

rhymes with gram broker

[humble gulch]

VIOLET VESSEL IS GOING TO BE OBLITERATED

[cedar sable]

ggs

[humble gulch]

BRO

[serene forge]

i <3 yuri

i should get it on a shirt

[humble gulch]

Dead

[turbid nova]

real

[serene forge]

smartest photograph user

[azure copper]

do i change the fist with nova?

[serene forge]

science could advance so far if they could study the brains of r/balatro users

[serene forge]

obelisk

[azure copper]

please censor it

[serene forge]

you were already cooked cuz hearts are the worst suit

[turbid nova]

wait are you building chips or mult

[azure copper]

both, im on plasma

[full rune]

Chipz

[serene forge]

I guess you don't need the pivot on blue stake necessarily

[turbid nova]

on plasma build just one

[uneven moon]

??????????????????????? never disrespect heart and bloodstone ever again

[azure copper]

alr

[serene forge]

I don't have to, bloodstone makes a mockery of itself

[full rune]

Bloodstone is worse than Rough Gem

[frank grove]

this photo gets better everytime 😭

[serene forge]

bloodstone is bottom 5

[proven gulch]

me when the stone is bloody

[uneven moon]

just admit ur super greedy

[full rune]

I have to be greedy to win

[frank grove]

do you like 8 ball?

[glass creek]

Fraudstone

[full rune]

Ouija 8's

[serene forge]

not really greedy if the economy is guaranteed

[uneven moon]

nnoooo

[frank grove]

you dont like 8 ball

but you like bloodstone

balatro player when 1 in 32 chance for not getting 8ball tarot: this is guaranteed
balatro player when 1 in 32 chance to instantly die to bloodstone missing: this will never happen

[full rune]

8 ball better than bloodstone

[serene forge]

why not

[full rune]

Any tarot card is better than bloodstone

I said what I said

[serene forge]

yes

[uneven moon]

why would i like a joker that work with 8 card there is no synergy

[frank grove]

except the joker you hate

what

also fib?

[full rune]

Flush 5s straight 5's 4's Full house flush house, etc

[turbid nova]

even steven 🗣️

[serene forge]

fib and 4oak build

and retriggers

[long zodiac]

Who hates fib?

I love fib

[frank grove]

yeah bloodstones synergy is the new run button

[serene forge]

(remember you're getting tarots to get your 4oak build online by using 8ball lmao)

[full rune]

I like first blood

[frank grove]

they dont like 8 ball cause 8s have "no synergy"

[uneven moon]

my fav jokers, shame me if u want :.

[turbid nova]

all those mid common tarot gen and then we have the goat hallucination

[graceful schooner]

He just doesn't wanna show up

[humble gulch]

LMAO

😭

[full rune]

Oooo are we doing jokers

[turbid nova]

how the heck do you get yorick that often

[long zodiac]

Dawg on abandoned ur like almost guaranteed to get 8’s at least one time per round LMAO

[turbid nova]

are you doing seed manip

[long zodiac]

And 8 ball is good

I shall not take any slander

[humble gulch]

I don't like eight ball because eight ball doesn't exist type shit

[uneven moon]

iont know i think i just made a few great games with him so it boost the stat

[full rune]

It isnt even a good list now that I have been completing the higher tiers

[graceful schooner]

wasn't a high card seed

[uneven moon]

i hate the fist

[turbid nova]

hmmm interesting lineup

[full rune]

HOW

[turbid nova]

bootstraps is strange

[full rune]

I am ashambed to have smiley face there

[long zodiac]

Do you like making your early antes harder?

[uneven moon]

i mean it never get really high

[uneven moon]

actually yes

[long zodiac]

Just don’t play your better cards

It’s literally that simple

[turbid nova]

I have smiley top 10 too

by virtue of using it a lot earlier

[uneven moon]

all these efforts for 22 mult

[turbid nova]

it will probably eventually fade away though

[long zodiac]

My smiley face is at top 4

[frank grove]

the simple steel card(s) ?

[full rune]

It isnt a late game joker unless there is no scaling opportunity, which is rare

[turbid nova]

but I'm sure other than that

there are no elephants

[turbid nova]

surely

don't look at top 3 please

[uneven moon]

so photochad is everybody top 1 and 2

[full rune]

Fist enjoyer

[frank grove]

no lmao

[full rune]

Fister, even

[tranquil steppe]

Definitely Chad

[long zodiac]

well they're two of the most common jokers in the game

[long zodiac]

at least they show up a lot for me

[turbid nova]

"guys look at my most used jokers"

[full rune]

A COPY afficiando, weird

[uneven moon]

i have yorick im not an npc

[turbid nova]

ok

[full rune]

Shit man, if you run fist with Canio its over

[turbid nova]

glad my goat is top 5 now

he's been climbing the ranks

[turbid nova]

walkie talkie is quite decent early, but top 5?

[long zodiac]

I took it a lot when I just started playing ngl

[long zodiac]

And i play a shit ton of abandoned deck

[turbid nova]

makes sense it isn't stickered

it's not really one you'd take to the end

[serene forge]

photograph

[turbid nova]

maybe he plays other decks

[long zodiac]

I started playing abandoned deck later

[full rune]

Holy shit what a run start

[long zodiac]

I almost exclusively played yellow deck for the longest time

[serene forge]

this is me

[full rune]

Based

[full rune]

What is your voucher list

[humble gulch]

GSG profile

[turbid nova]

the dev said it himself

[full rune]

I was expecting seed money to be higher

[serene forge]

its meh

[turbid nova]

if chad did not exist

photo is like a middle of the road common

[humble gulch]

Lmao

[viral raft]

Photo shouldn't even exist tbh

[humble gulch]

It would be one of the worst

[turbid nova]

I could see it maybe in flush builds alongside things like fib or even steven

[long zodiac]

Welp, time to press R!

[turbid nova]

or anything that triggers on hand

[full rune]

Photo needs like one of 3 other jokers to be okay

[humble gulch]

Just take any other form of xmult

[turbid nova]

what hand does tdl ask for

[viral raft]

Like, imo, Photo is a bad joker design, his only job is literally be the Robin of Chad, besides that is easily one of the worst X2 mults in the game

[full rune]

And dusk

[long zodiac]

straight flush

[full rune]

Ayne

[turbid nova]

thing is what other common gives xmult

[long zodiac]

cavendish

[turbid nova]

I guess

other than that

[viral raft]

Cavendish, but that's fair because you need Gross michel to die

[turbid nova]

yeah

[viral raft]

Photo is a error

[tall sapphire]

thank you showman

[humble gulch]

Photo not being general xmult makes it so bad

[viral raft]

everysingle time i see a photo is just think how bad as a joker design is

[turbid nova]

but at the same time that's the same reason it's used so much

bc it triggers on score

[viral raft]

yeah, because of chad

[full rune]

The Abandoned deck enjoyers are in the chat

[viral raft]

if chad didn't exist Photo would be easilt D or even F tier

[humble gulch]

Photo isn't even used in high stakes

[tall sapphire]

i am very smart

[viral raft]

Double passive, double Blueprints soon!

[full rune]

Does blueprint copy itself?

[tawdry epoch]

i got an insane start and hundreds of dollars early on with chad midas mask and perishable golden ticket and just forced photochad and blueprint
4 decks done on gold stake

[viral raft]

yeah, and the fact that is easily countered by the plant and fully depends on planet levels and retriggers just make it a really bad joker not even in gold stake, but also as a design

[full rune]

Holo Face card?

[viral raft]

they are jokers that they're bad, but they were designed like that...just look at the page 1, but photo is just so "why" imo

[pale wolf]

photochad is def used in high stakes

[turbid nova]

it is

[graceful schooner]

Scam

[turbid nova]

but you can't rely on it too much

[viral raft]

yep, but mostly because of Chad

[full rune]

Ah so it will copy itself

[viral raft]

you will never buy a photo unless is first shop, you have a chad, or you're really desesperated

[full rune]

What about really depressed

[turbid nova]

or you have stuff like fib and you're flushslopping

but too situational at that point

[viral raft]

Flushslop in....high stakes?

so scary

[turbid nova]

yes

[graceful schooner]

Fr

[viral raft]

not even in my worst nightmares

my first c++ i remenber winning a black deck gold stake because of flush build with a tribe

[pale wolf]

ok lets sticker mystic summit

[viral raft]

yes, i was really desesperated

[viral raft]

peak

[full rune]

Okay, I want to see this panel from everyone

[turbid nova]

YES

MY BROTHER

[viral raft]

Earth is NOT good 😭

[turbid nova]

YES IT IS

[full rune]

LMAO

[viral raft]

you could literally just play two pair or 4oak for better results

i like full house but sadly is Wayyyy out of the current "meta"

[graceful schooner]

Bur how is thwew no baron

Im running out pf money

[full rune]

I always try to transition to flush house with earth

[turbid nova]

earth used to be at the top

[turbid nova]

yup

[full rune]

Yeah like that

[pale wolf]

judgement in arcana probably has hologram so i take magic trick preemptively obviously

[full rune]

Earth is really good early game, then you can go for 4oak or higher

[viral raft]

That's the neat point, "used"

[pale wolf]

gfit crad

[viral raft]

Almost anything is good in early game 😭

[full rune]

Congratulations! New run!

[viral raft]

Neat

[turbid nova]

let me play a lot of erratic and watch earth shoot into first again

[tawdry epoch]

what deck do i gold stake next (other than black)
i already have green, blue, abandoned, and checkered done

[full rune]

Well that too

[viral raft]

Zodiac

[turbid nova]

black

[full rune]

Zodiac should be easy

[viral raft]

Yep

Is a "better shop" deck

[graceful schooner]

19 antes without Baron

[lost vault]

purple

:3

[turbid nova]

zodiac early game is a bit tricky though

You don’t see as many jokers

[viral raft]

Why lol

[viral raft]

False

[lost vault]

isnt it about the same

cuz overstock

[full rune]

You have overstock at start

[turbid nova]

I know but still

[viral raft]

Zodiac literally have even more chances to spawn jokers

[full rune]

I see what you mean

Because planet and tarot

Spawn rate

[long zodiac]

Common photograph jumpscare on abandoned deck

[viral raft]

The spawn rate for jokers are even higher

[full rune]

More than 2x planet and 2x tarot?

[viral raft]

Not at all but because of overstock you will see more jokers

[lost vault]

i do believe joker spawnrates are naturally higher than planets and tarots

idk how much

[full rune]

But there is a higher chance of one of those slots rolling a non joker

[devout wasp]

you are 8.06ish% likely to miss on getting any jokers in a shop with a different deck, and about 11% to miss on getting any jokers with zodiac

difference is 1 in 9 vs 1 in 12, really only detectable in long streaks

[full rune]

Interesting

[viral raft]

Zodiac is literally just a "better shops" deck

[devout wasp]

and that's looking only at the extreme case

[full rune]

Thanks

[lost vault]

so its not much different

[viral raft]

not because theres a tarot/planet merchant means that are less jokers lmao

[devout wasp]

exactly, yes, this was in support of the argument that zodiac is fine

[viral raft]

and even with that tarots and planets are great overall

[lost vault]

yea

overstock is a rly good voucher to have early on and tarot merchant is pretty solid too

[viral raft]

you're seeing tarots and planets like they were wasting slots lmao

[lost vault]

we love tarot cards

[full rune]

Okay but what if you manage to get omen globe

[lost vault]

well theyre not rly what ur looking for bery early on

[lost vault]

what if you do

why does that matter for zodiac exatly

[devout wasp]

omen globe does almost nothing to the odds

[full rune]

Does the joker spawn rate decrease

[lost vault]

no it doesnt affect shops

[viral raft]

yeah but they can manage to make you survive, like a empress or a strong early tarot

[lost vault]

???

[full rune]

Oh lol I have bad intel

[devout wasp]

default weights are 20 joker, 4 tarot, 4 planet. merchant vouchers take them from 4 to 9.6, omen globe adds spectrals with a weight of 2

[lost vault]

omen globe only influences arcana packs

reading the voucher explains the voucher

[full rune]

I'm mixing up omen and ghost

Please disregard

[devout wasp]

ah yeah that too i'm zooted rn

[viral raft]

does nothing on the shops, the odd are lowered to joker when you buy a Tarot/Planet tycoon

[devout wasp]

but yeah ghost deck weight is 2

vs 4 and 4 and 20

miniscule impact

[viral raft]

which is completatly your choice if you want thoses vouchers

[full rune]

Spectral in MY arcana packs??

[devout wasp]

measurable to be sure, but miniscule

[lost vault]

the humble soul:

[tardy dust]

How to win blue deck

[lost vault]

theres like a trillion ways to win

[full rune]

I want a joker named Humble Pie

[tardy dust]

Name one

[viral raft]

try to minmax, be consistent and try to keep good econ

[lost vault]

100 negative copies of cavendish

natural

[full rune]

Gold Scaling

Do it

[tardy dust]

What's that

[devout wasp]

best approach on blue deck is translate the extra hand into money

[tardy dust]

I can't find any jokers in the shop that provide score

[lost vault]

yes you can

[viral raft]

jokers who scale: Red card, Green joker, Square, Runner, etc.

[full rune]

Score as in chips or mult?

[devout wasp]

blue deck also goes very well with any scoring that scales off of played hands, for obvious reasons

[lost vault]

you just arent looking for the right ones

[devout wasp]

you don't really desperately need scoring until ante 2

[lost vault]

as long as they provide flat mult or chips theyll be decent early game

[full rune]

Nacho tong yourself to 7 hands

[tardy dust]

I can't find any jokers that score

[lost vault]

yes you can

theres a LOT

of scoring jokers

[tardy dust]

No I can't

[lost vault]

idk what to tell u brah

[full rune]

Are you looking only for jokers that provide chips or mult early on? That is a common path for a lot of players

[tardy dust]

Shop full of tarots

[lost vault]

ur probably just ignoring usable jokers cuz u think theyre bad

[devout wasp]

in cases where you still haven't found a joker by ante 2 big blind you can open packs as an emergency. interest does you no good if you lose

[lost vault]

those can save u too

if needded

[full rune]

So make flushes more reliable

[tardy dust]

Name 1

[devout wasp]

and arcanas can absolutely save you

[lost vault]

green

[devout wasp]

as can certain planets

[lost vault]

some people dislike green joker

[tardy dust]

I have grimbo rn

[lost vault]

but hes really good early

coolie

[full rune]

Go ride the bus

[lost vault]

should be good for an ante or 2

[tardy dust]

Lemme hop on and show yall

I just started this run btw

[full rune]

Green is legit on blue deck if you like high cards

[devout wasp]

then i would say you have a joker that scores. use your hands as discards, and dump high card or pairs, searching for --- if you need it --- a bigger hand to cap it off

[lost vault]

get some chips

[full rune]

Excellent start are you kidding me

[lost vault]

maybe ditch lusty at some point

[tardy dust]

Should I scale grimbo or save hands for money

[lost vault]

but for now hes okay

[lost vault]

tbh idk its probably safer to scale

[devout wasp]

early on, probably scale. let interest greed your hands, you don't need to buy anything for a while after grimbo

[lost vault]

if u see a chips joker like blue or square i'd reccomend taking them

chips + mult jokers makes a good start

[full rune]

I'm bullish

[lost vault]

can take u pretty far

[devout wasp]

if you play your cards right, pun intended, you'll have 30 mult before you even have a long-term game plan

and 30 mult is kinda cracked for that stage of the game

[full rune]

Odd Todd is one of my favorite early commons

[tardy dust]

Imma see how long I last

[devout wasp]

but yeah, the next thing, when the score starts to get scary, is to look for chips

[tardy dust]

Then I'll tell y'all

[full rune]

Good luck

[devout wasp]

glgl

[full rune]

Is balatro reading chat >.>

[tardy dust]

Do I take wee or runner if they're both in the same shop

[lost vault]

merhcurusey

[lost vault]

not sure

[full rune]

2s or straights

[tardy dust]

There's also ice cream

[lost vault]

wee's more intuitive and has a higher ceiling

and wee probably works better with green

but i dunno

[tardy dust]

I'm gonna skip on both and take ice cream

[full rune]

I like wee

[lost vault]

nice wee

its about average

:3

[full rune]

You should scale

Yeah its on the low side

Didnt get chad

[lost vault]

ice cream is nice but definitely consider one of the scalers

[full rune]

Ice cream is super nice with wee or runner

Is castle worth taking tho

[serene forge]

gg

[scarlet girder]

localthunk should add a joker named telefragger and if you get it from a judgement your run just dies

[lost vault]

nullscape

[scarlet girder]

no

[lost vault]

frick

[pale wolf]

i dieded

[scarlet girder]

voidbound joker

[tawny sluice]

Castle is good if you aew going for flushes I think

[lost vault]

nah

its good when going for anything but flushes

mainly cuz flushes suck

[full rune]

Shoulda sold

greedisgood

[tawny sluice]

Have you seen the flush bell chart?

[lost vault]

oh brother

[pale wolf]

parking is so cool

[full rune]

I'm parking in my reserved spot, here is my business card.

[lost vault]

in this meme YOURE the angry crying wojak and IM the smart hooded wojak so therefore im right and youre wrong

[tawny sluice]

I know the optimal is normally pairs but pairs feel so laim

[lost vault]

sometimes lame is optimal

[tawny sluice]

Yeah but lame is lame

[lost vault]

then dont play it

but im not talking preferences

[full rune]

Oh man oh man what do I do

[glass creek]

Next round

[tawny sluice]

Really?

[glass creek]

It's plasma

[tawny sluice]

Oh

[lost vault]

abstract

[tawny sluice]

But not even buffoon pack?

[lost vault]

oh wait

yea buffoon

plasma is so gay bruh

[full rune]

I know but currently getting blue stake on all decks

This is one of the last

[glass creek]

I think it's better to save money because you can go to round 4 without needing any additional scoring

[tawny sluice]

I guess makes sense

[warm wedge]

why blue

[pale wolf]

HOW MANY JOKER?

ahem

howany jokerd

[warm wedge]

jokerd

[tawdry epoch]

this is so stupid

[full rune]

I did go next, this is current setup

[mental bloom]

hi

i love judgement

bye

[full rune]

[warm wedge]

damn todays was easy

[mental bloom]

buy hermit for immediate value

[full rune]

Lmao

[warm wedge]

+0$

[full rune]

Its gg now

Gonna finish it out

Hey

If I turn a spade into a stone card

Will it double trigger

[shell dagger]

No

[warm wedge]

why not check the srandard pak

[full rune]

Blackboard just doesnt like stone cards then

[warm wedge]

yup

[full rune]

Which is weird because they have no suit at all

[warm wedge]

last i checked spades and clubs are SUITS

[full rune]

Not a spade or a club but still sucks

[warm wedge]

it mite go thru all cards and check if not club/spade, break, call it *1 mult

[warm wedge]

i jmean its good for idol building and fun

[full rune]

Yeah

[warm wedge]

and bulwark

[full rune]

Of course

[cloud sinew]

it checks that the # of clubs and spades in hand = the # of cards in hand

[mental bloom]

if a deck is full of stone cards what does idol pick

[full rune]

Thanks

[cloud sinew]

ace of spades

[warm wedge]

oh ok

[cloud sinew]

why is why blackboard works with 0 cards in hand

0 = 0

[mental bloom]

ah yes, first suit and first rank showed in a regular deck, that makes sense

[warm wedge]

stone cards 🪨

[full rune]

This seems imaginary

[warm wedge]

i mean last i checked 0 does equal 0

[full rune]

It's in your imagination

[rugged onyx]

i finally got a fold sticker on hit the road jack!! i have all the rare jokers done now

[full rune]

(0 is a real and imaginary number)

[mental bloom]

thoughest to actually make work... congrats!!!

or was it just here for decoration

[full rune]

How come balatro doesnt have a fold option

[knotty zodiac]

hold r

[rugged onyx]

it played the difficult role of replacing my poly rebate

[warm wedge]

what stake is fold

[knotty zodiac]

i started making jacks when i dont have xmult. its saved me a few times

[warm wedge]

0 is in your imajinations

[full rune]

I uh.. Play on mobile and steam deck with two balatro licenses

[serene forge]

buffoon

[warm wedge]

eraddic like too many jacks?

[mental bloom]

ah, indeed

[mental bloom]

oooooo that's smarttt

[warm wedge]

connect a bluetooth keyboard and hold r

thgats what google says

[mental bloom]

what if it resets every two rounds played instead

[full rune]

My bluetooth keyboard was lost in the incident

[rugged onyx]

yeah i was just rolling the final shop looking for anything without a ssticker, very pleasent surprise

[mental bloom]

the blutooth device iz ready to pair 🗣️🗣️🔥

[mental bloom]

peak

[tight pike]

Why is it always the stupid runs that work I swear

[rugged onyx]

15 more jokers to go, then i have one finaly achivment to complete

[tight pike]

No its a high card iirc

[full rune]

Oop

Sorry

[mental bloom]

"a little bit of this a little bit of that" ahh jokers 😭

[full rune]

Is a 5 stone card hand a flush five

[mental bloom]

still hc

[rugged onyx]

my fav runs have been when i take an early stencil joker as a joke......then i end the run with 3-4 of them

[mental bloom]

always be high card

[mental bloom]

I would LOVE doing a run like that

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[tight pike]

I mean I don't mind there finally being a straight flush build that works out for me but NEVER WHEN I HAVE SEANCE

[full rune]

Back to Bloodstone B2B

[humble gulch]

I love ante 1 bootstraps

[rugged onyx]

ive had 3 or 4 of them, for a while if i grabbed stencil, a invisble joker would be right around the corner

[serene forge]

i dont

[serene forge]

seance is bad for straight flush its fine

[humble gulch]

We know

[tight pike]

I don't care if it's bad

It's funny

[rugged onyx]

stone joker and bean or two of the problem cildren i still need to find for c++

[tight pike]

How long did it take you for luchador?

[rugged onyx]

i mean, luchador is just an uncommon so not to long, the problem with bean and stone joker is one is essentially parashable, the other only spawns if you have a stone card in your deck

and i don't really take a lot of stone cards

[tight pike]

Rock Hard deck on plasma?

[knotty zodiac]

u just need one stone card for it to spawn, not too bad

(but can be pathological for ppl who dont know theres a spawning req)

[viral raft]

Tarot Tycoon is underrated

idk

[tight pike]

How don't people know that shit?

[scarlet girder]

bro thinks he is doc

[rugged onyx]

i know, i try to keep one stone card in deck for it. i only just got lucky cat done today, with is weird because i always grab lucky cards

[knotty zodiac]

some ppl dont read spoilers

[viral raft]

😭 is just true

[full rune]

I suddenly wish I was not playing plasma 😭

[tight pike]

U dont need a deck like that to wish that

[scarlet girder]

holy eternals

[exotic silo]

Holy Supernova carry

had Seeing Double, but sold it for Misprint to collect its sticker, I was right in assuming that Constellation was good enough to win ante 8

[full rune]

Are you scared c:<

[scarlet girder]

no

[viral raft]

idk if Square is really that good on plasma 😭

[exotic silo]

To-Do List, Misprint and Riff-Raff all receive their stickers 🔥

[tight pike]

Constellation is a reverse obelisk

[rugged onyx]

chips are chips!!

[tight pike]

But actually reliable to show up in the antes it's useful

[full rune]

I have grabber and a fairly high two pair and a high pair with stones

[exotic silo]

eh, I have made first shop obelisk work

[tight pike]

The earlier it shows up the better compared to obelisk which is the later it shows up the better

[rugged onyx]

Nice!

[viral raft]

how much is scaled?

stones seems good with square on plasma ig

[full rune]

116

Honestly not bad for itself

[exotic silo]

there is a sweet spot where Obelisk is most optimal, too late and it will not scale past like 2.8x

to be fair, as long as you have some early leeway, even ante 1 Obelisk works

[viral raft]

i meaaaan...for a square joker is really bad scaling

but ig does something in your run

[tight pike]

I was at the understanding if u got 2 most played hands playing either of them just resets it right?

[full rune]

Square was second shop and bull was 14th

[viral raft]

the bad thing about Plasma is that you can't actually minmax very well tbh

square is affected by that

[tight pike]

Plasma is either the easiest shit ever or the hardest shit you wouldn't even wish on your enemies

[full rune]

I took it because it was available, but I wish it wasnt eternal for sure

[exotic silo]

yes, but like, that point is very easily avoidable even early on

[viral raft]

yep, theres a reason is very well hated by gold stake streaks

is very inconsistent

[scarlet girder]

I'm glad i got trib out of the way for when i gold stake abandoned deck

[tight pike]

I'm glad that was the first gold stake I did and I'll never fucking touch plasma again

[pale wolf]

lilo

[exotic silo]

you can build a pair bank of 11-13 on Obelisk on ante 2 and chill afterwards

[scarlet girder]

dude when i finished plasma gold stake i actually cried tears of joy

[pale wolf]

@cloud sinew jow kany joker u think next updTe

[full rune]

I hope humble pie is a new joker

[viral raft]

what is this even mean?

😭

[tight pike]

I beat plasma and I don't know how
I believe it was bus with burglar and a pocket luchador MY DUMBASS DECIDED TO NOT USE

[full rune]

How many

[tight pike]

Atleast I got the sticker 💔

[viral raft]

oh i see

[scarlet girder]

i don't even remember my loadout i just know im never grazing plasma deck again unless im going gor high score

[tight pike]

I got mine hold on

[viral raft]

i hope atleast 10 jokers or a new page

but probably just a few ones will appear in new update

[scarlet girder]

genuinely abhorrent deck

[full rune]

Touch acreen kwyboarfs am i rite

[pale wolf]

andy

[ancient gyro]

nobody really thinks of plasma when they wanna finish c++

[ancient gyro]

zerab

[tight pike]

Oh shit that was black deck

Fuck

[exotic silo]

my gros michel sticker is taking a WHILE, it keeps dying after a round or two

[pale wolf]

how many many jokers do you think in the next uodate

[ancient gyro]

15

[pale wolf]

good estimate

[scarlet girder]

a little bit of this... a little bit of that... and huzzah!

[pale wolf]

i concur

[ancient gyro]

or 30

[pale wolf]

i concur with 30

[viral raft]

why are you typing like that? 😭

[ancient gyro]

high as shit again

[full rune]

[tardy dust]

I'm Home

[viral raft]

i would be so happy to see a new page in the joker collection

[full rune]

Gj now knock out a few runs

[pale wolf]

oh true it would probably be a multiple of 15

[tardy dust]

Yes that's what I'll do

[ancient gyro]

i would like to see a sort by button in the jokers collection

[full rune]

Sort by: Most Based

[ancient gyro]

stm in the first page

[viral raft]

-> new update
-> see stats
-> everything is below 100%
-> 🥹🥹🥹

[tardy dust]

Guys what mod does everyone use to ban jokers?

[pale wolf]

i would like to see toggle to watch #🕹・game-discussion live during play

[warm wedge]

so if you have c++ after the update do you still

[crisp perch]

I love ectoing random jokers to get extra gold stickers

[tight pike]

BP
Runner
Mime?
Card
Brainstorm

Thats a mime right?

[viral raft]

that's the true gold stake experience

[pale wolf]

don't be judging

[warm wedge]

why not

[crisp perch]

This was 5-6 new ones

[viral raft]

yeah you're probably ragebaiting or high as hell

[ancient gyro]

old players keep the c++ achievement, new players require the new benchmarks

[warm wedge]

dang

[full rune]

He cant see my keyboard joke because blocked :c

[tight pike]

Why can't it be both

[pale wolf]

or both

[ancient gyro]

or neither

[viral raft]

true (morgan freeman sticker)

[ancient gyro]

and zebra just dumb as fuck

[crisp perch]

Also found out the hold trick on jokers for the ante 8 boss that turns em upside down works on mobile

Thought it wouldn’t

[ancient gyro]

same applies for playing cards

[pale wolf]

many this is what hapens when im sober maby*

[ancient gyro]

in face down boss blinds

[viral raft]

the 100% makes anyone go insanity

[tight pike]

I don't like painted deck :(

[ancient gyro]

maby*

[viral raft]

maby*

[full rune]

maby*

[ancient gyro]

i like it for the opposite reasons i like abandoned

[tight pike]

The fact I can only use 4 jokers and the ability I can play full house makes me sad

[viral raft]

this goes to the public

[pale wolf]

yea they'll pull thag up on my resume

[viral raft]

maby

[warm wedge]

maby*

[viral raft]

who the hell is Maby??? 😭

[full rune]

maby*?

[ancient gyro]

@maby

[viral raft]

Maby*?

[warm wedge]

MABE

@maby

[pale wolf]

not a who

[tight pike]

Thag?

[shell dagger]

Maby

[crisp perch]

How am I still missing 56 or 66 jokers holy

[lost vault]

thag

[warm wedge]

may bee

[oak ledge]

gone

[warm wedge]

6 more days

[tight pike]

Someone made like a balatro version of thragg with viltrumites behind it and I can't find it

[full rune]

How high is Blank in your voucher list

[tight pike]

FUCK YOU BELGIUM I DON'T WANNA GO TO ANTWERPEN STOP GIVING ME THOSE SPOTIFY ADS PLEASE

[ancient gyro]

dart monkey

[errant hull]

Hiii chat

[ancient gyro]

not that high

[viral raft]

mmmm depends alot but probably B or low A tier

[warm wedge]

e?

[full rune]

Haha I meant in your stats screen

[shell dagger]

What crosspath gives him yellow hands

[ancient gyro]

squirrel crosspath

[fallow shadow]

bloodstone

[tight pike]

Sucks or it doesn't

[ancient gyro]

nowhere to be seen

[fallow shadow]

bad

[tight pike]

Schrodingers Bloodstone

[viral raft]

Blank isn't that bad, chances of stickering value

[warm wedge]

ominous

[tight pike]

It either triggers or it don't (it don't)

[full rune]

Do you think that is reflective of the quality of player you are?

[tight pike]

Just like Space Joker

[pale wolf]

+5%

[fallow shadow]

this tier list sucks bc i didnt read it

[warm wedge]

or it oops

[viral raft]

exacly

[warm wedge]

that just dont

[ancient gyro]

no lol, stm is the longest kept joker in 3 of my c++ profiles

[tight pike]

Actually no not just that
Bloodstone will trigger if you beat the blind without it and Space Joker only triggers on a hand u play to save a discard