🕹・game-discussion

[haughty condor]

send

[patent sail]

trading card

[haughty condor]

im curious af

[pale wolf]

+10??

[patent sail]

it has random variants

[knotty zodiac]

i just made it up lol sry

[frank grove]

its holo right?

[patent sail]

holographic

[pale wolf]

oh duh

[digital pewter]

i always love making up jokers

[tough breach]

tysm faceless joker for doing allat

[digital pewter]

like yeah office joker is my favorite common joker

[pale wolf]

me too

[pale wolf]

i have a whole thread of it

[knotty zodiac]

idk if i shoul click this lol

[pale wolf]

its an image

[haughty condor]

caught a larper by saying "they should buff orange joker"

[digital pewter]

p

[patent sail]

lucky card both procs

[knotty zodiac]

it looks tappable

[patent sail]

game just hands me the win

[haughty condor]

w

[digital pewter]

larper? orange joker is real bro...

[pale wolf]

keep that to yourself 🦓

[haughty condor]

BLORANGE joker is

NOT orange joker

[digital pewter]

idk man

[haughty condor]

I'm one of the 13 people who pioneered colors I would know

[knotty zodiac]

oh its not like that

but cleopatra on the other hand...

[digital pewter]

i mean, orange joker's effect of X3 mult that decreases by X0.2 Mult per hand played is pretty real

since yknow

it's an orange

[haughty condor]

blred

[patent sail]

localthunk actually invented color green to make green joker

[haughty condor]

same

[patent sail]

ANTE 7 PAREIDOLIA im so getting that sticker on it finally

[digital pewter]

nice

[haughty condor]

when I first started playing balatro I thought all the colors had jokers but we only have blue and green and I suppose red card

[digital pewter]

nah cause that's like saying blueprint counts

we need red joker

[patent sail]

boss is bell i win ts

[haughty condor]

yes

[digital pewter]

the jokers of the rainbow

[patent root]

Heart attack
Random mult (f*ck around and find out)
That's the description says

[tough breach]

Peak

[digital pewter]

we do love a X0 mult hit

wait

[haughty condor]

Me when somebody asks the letters of the alphabet: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

[digital pewter]

the concept of a boss that sets your initial mult to 0...

[pale wolf]

slick

[pale wolf]

can you stop

[haughty condor]

alphabet is tuff vro!

[knotty zodiac]

tooth but for +mult

[echo sphinx]

guys question
lets say jojers can now have seals and enhancements
how unbalanced will the game be

[digital pewter]

-1 mult per card scored?

[patent sail]

nibbles your mult

[pale wolf]

isnt this just slightly different flint

[digital pewter]

quite unbalanced

[knotty zodiac]

pairs win again

[frank grove]

sell a purple seal joker for a single tarot card 🔥

[digital pewter]

yeah

flint but +mult is now a requirement

[pale wolf]

scary

[echo sphinx]

probably doesn't work cuz jojers cant be discarded 😭

[knotty zodiac]

if u justice a joker does it proc every hand?

[pale wolf]

blue seal jokers is silly

[patent sail]

typa things ante 1 trading card does

[past locust]

I'm still stuck here cuhhh
What do i dooo😭

[digital pewter]

a photochad without mult cards shivers when a (insert boss blind name) enters the ante...

[frank grove]

1/4 chance for a joker to shatter 🔥

[knotty zodiac]

on eternal tho

[patent sail]

new blue stake 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[frank grove]

that should be a challenge actually

[echo sphinx]

lets say if the jojer can score it also has a 1 in 4 to break

mmmmm

[knotty zodiac]

red seal glass that eternal joker

[past locust]

Glass Jojer

[echo sphinx]

debuffed

[pale wolf]

ok so you're saying jojer on purpose

[haughty condor]

seals wouldn't work cause of purple

[patent sail]

jonkler

[haughty condor]

but enhancements might

[frank grove]

red seals would work

[echo sphinx]

red seal mime.

[digital pewter]

basically all seals being able to be put on jokers is extremely op except purple lol

[knotty zodiac]

when you sell a purple tarot joker, u get a tarot

[haughty condor]

fair enough

[echo sphinx]

baronmime going to new heights of folly

[patent root]

The car was talking about
Thank you momma! Gains x1.00e91 mult
If you have they took the car away

[haughty condor]

There would be no reason to use any seal except red

[patent sail]

PAREIDOLIA STICKER HELL YEA

[pale wolf]

red seal jokers is actually somehow more gamebreaking

[haughty condor]

And make every joker steel or gold

[pale wolf]

#⚙・modding-general

[echo sphinx]

blue seal would be silly as zebra says

[knotty zodiac]

if u tower a joker does its ability still proc?

[frank grove]

red seal blueprint copying a red seal brainstorm copying a red seal ancient joker

[haughty condor]

It'd be niche to use

[echo sphinx]

noh

[patent sail]

foil but bad 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[echo sphinx]

blue seal is very not-niche

[tough breach]

Great job twin, WE are getting the C+ soon

[livid scroll]

there's really just no way

[echo sphinx]

wait i just realized

[knotty zodiac]

stone parei for plant tech

[haughty condor]

Right but you lose a lot of value from not using red

[echo sphinx]

steel.

[digital pewter]

blue seals on a joker means you basically always get the planet
red seal is literally just like having a blueprint for every joker
gold seal means $3 on EVERY activation (stuff like say an idol/golden ticket becomes even more econ crazy)

[patent sail]

god i love erosion

[haughty condor]

w crazy the clown lowkey carrying

[echo sphinx]

brainstorm is worse than blueprint ahh

[patent sail]

c++ , i already got c+

[haughty condor]

Are we talking about endless or just 8 ante

[echo sphinx]

ante 8

[haughty condor]

Ohhh ok

[tough breach]

yeh my bad, i meant c++

[pale wolf]

brainstorm is worse in both

[frank grove]

yeah

[livid scroll]

real

[echo sphinx]

endless is too lmao

[haughty condor]

Blue would be great with consolation

[livid scroll]

yet, i'm 1000 away from naneinf

[haughty condor]

constellation*

[knotty zodiac]

consolation 😭

[frank grove]

cause multiple blueprints can copy other jokers brainstorm can only copy one

[haughty condor]

yes

[pale wolf]

is that end of the line for you

[echo sphinx]

rental Showman for blue seal value, would you take

[pale wolf]

yea ofc

[haughty condor]

Would a gold seal trigger when the joker triggers or when the round ends?

[livid scroll]

i have one more ante before ante 32 with the buns boss blind

[frank grove]

when the joker triggers i guess?

[livid scroll]

but what i did was the maximum

[haughty condor]

Gold seal on hanging chad

[pale wolf]

oh right right

[livid scroll]

including jiggler tag

[pale wolf]

not the jiggler tag

[livid scroll]

which is here once more in ante 31

but

i need 1000 more

still

and i am in slot debt as well lmao

[echo sphinx]

fuck

[haughty condor]

niche

[echo sphinx]

isnt Chariot broken overnight

[knotty zodiac]

what if you could apply a negative edition to a playing card

it would always show up in your starting hand

[echo sphinx]

its literally Polychrome

[pale wolf]

! negative invis is either unlucky or lucky

[haughty condor]

I got a crazy idea

[frank grove]

or if you drew it it would just draw another card along side it

[pale wolf]

I think negative playing cards would work very intuitively, they are drawn like normal cards and simply add 1 to handsize when they are held in hand

[echo sphinx]

negative playing card would jist increase handsize by 1

[frank grove]

yeah

[echo sphinx]

negative blue seal playing card

mmmmmm

[knotty zodiac]

would be fun spectral

[haughty condor]

New joker idea: Juggler's cousin. +1 joker slot (takes a joker slot himself)

[patent sail]

what should i change endless mode button text to

[haughty condor]

Suffer longer

[pale wolf]

And negative never gets transferred when duplicated, so it wouldn't have any issues with cryptid or death or whatever

it would just be a neat rare event

[haughty condor]

I wish negative could get copied

[haughty condor]

You can already do this with debug

[frank grove]

illusion buff?

[haughty condor]

Just adds +1 hand size

So the idea is all negative steel red seal kings instead of polychrome

[knotty zodiac]

well yes but it doesnt do anything right?

[pale wolf]

tbh I've thought about this enough that ill add it to my list

[haughty condor]

It adds +1 hand size

[knotty zodiac]

wat

never noticed

[livid scroll]

PLEASE JUST LET ME CARRY IT IN MY SLOTS

FOR ONCE

[haughty condor]

If you draw a negative deck card you get another card

[knotty zodiac]

we should just ship it!

already working, just need to have aura, etc apply neg sometimes

[patent root]

Long live Gambler!

[haughty condor]

Considering balatro isn't balanced around endless I like the idea

Ante 8ers and endless moders will both enjoy

Baron mime steel red seal kings approve

[patent sail]

gambling

[echo sphinx]

45% foil, 30% holo, 15% holo, 10% negative

[haughty condor]

Hello akitsumaki (C+ 125/150)

[patent sail]

hai

[haughty condor]

Would cryptid and death copy the negative?

[echo sphinx]

no

[haughty condor]

I suppose it's more balanced that way

[pale wolf]

ez

[livid scroll]

anyone knows a funny way to bug the game and let me take this bean with me even with -1 slots?

[haughty condor]

I doubt it'd be too game breaking if it did copy the negative edition of the card

[pale wolf]

honestly random card in hand might be underpowered

[haughty condor]

+1 hand size is obviously big but it'd really only matter for endless

[echo sphinx]

needs to pick one specific card

but thats kinda strong

[frank grove]

probably better than making it a low chance on aura i guess

[livid scroll]

i would kill for a +1 hand size right now

[echo sphinx]

negative [held in hand] playing card is diabolical

[haughty condor]

well yeah cause endless

[pale wolf]

i could make it a selected card, but have Haunt be a rare spectral a la soul or black hole

[haughty condor]

that'd be way too rare

[patent root]

You again????

[haughty condor]

to the point of near obscurity

[pale wolf]

natural negatives are already that rare

[frank grove]

yeah

[haughty condor]

Would you be able to get natural negatives from standards

[pale wolf]

sure

i support it

[echo sphinx]

what if we just give it an ecto effect for no reason whatsoever

[pale wolf]

-1 hand size

🦓

[echo sphinx]

totally not doing nothing at best

[haughty condor]

What about cryptiding it

[humble gulch]

It's a pretty funny bug that implies selling jokers, if you sell enough jokers you gain +1 joker slot!

[pale wolf]

Ectogasm

Add negative effect to all cards held in hand
-1 hand size

ez

[echo sphinx]

nice lol

[haughty condor]

I think it's optimal to have 1 blueprint copy mime

so 3 on baron 3 on mime

[frank grove]

i think this is right too

[pale wolf]

negative is never transferred by copying/duping

[haughty condor]

well technically we only know this is true for jokers

[pale wolf]

and consumables

[livid scroll]

wouldn't make any difference.
5 x 4 is 20 and 4 x 5 is still 20

[haughty condor]

wait nvm fool doesn't make negative

[pale wolf]

negative deck

[livid scroll]

4 barons and 1 stell times 2 natural triggers and 2 mimes
vs
3 barons and 1 steel times 2 natural triggers and 3 mimes

[frank grove]

yeah

that sucks

[haughty condor]

wait this is best

ur right

im wrong my bad

[south cobalt]

why when I have one scoring face card and I copy trib with brainstorm and blueprint, it gives more than copying hanging chad?

[pale wolf]

there's an initial trigger thats being doubled

that copying chad doesnt double

[south cobalt]

Thank you

[livid scroll]

i was kinda wishing you were right though lol

[patent root]

I broke

[haughty condor]

dawg respectfully what are you doing

[patent root]

Playing

[pale wolf]

#⚙・modding-general

its not balatro

[haughty condor]

the modding channel exists Folk

[patent root]

I have two one Is suspicious

[patent root]

Fat wario

[haughty condor]

is this even allowed to be discussed bro

[patent root]

Idk

[haughty condor]

im pretty sure we can't talk or share stuff involving making ports of balatro

so u should probably stop before u get in trouble

[haughty condor]

damn this made me laugh

[ruby mulch]

is every run winnable

or are there actually impossible runs

[haughty condor]

we honestly don't know

[ruby mulch]

what.

[haughty condor]

there is no way to confirm whether this is true or not

[ruby mulch]

how do yall not know

[digital pewter]

there's probably some kind of bugged seed out there with a joker lineup so horrendous that on high stakes it could be impossible

[haughty condor]

dawg we ain't omnipotent

[ruby mulch]

in the balatro discord you are

😭

[digital pewter]

like every card is rental and perishable/eternal, there are zero econ jokers, just everything horrible

[haughty condor]

oh yeah on gold stake there are definitely unwinnables

I seriously doubt there are not

same with challenge decks

[frank grove]

On certain decks for sure

like black you can just lose against hook cause the draws are impassable

[haughty condor]

actually even on gold stake im pretty sure pros brute force so called impossible seeds

[knotty zodiac]

i think when ppl are saying a seed is impossible, it's sufficient for it to be impossible on one deck making the highest ev plays without prior knowledge of the seed

[frank grove]

yeah

[haughty condor]

I think it is being considered impossible even with knowledge of the seed

[frank grove]

there are for sure cases where taking the normal ev plays means you lose

if you have knowledge of the seed and could play it on any deck i think all seeds are probably winnable yeah

[ruby mulch]

why do people pick specifically pair so much

[haughty condor]

cause they're consistent

and not hard to deck fix towards

[haughty condor]

hell barely needs any deck fixing

[humble gulch]

Consistent, spammable, great scaling and works with almost every joker

[haughty condor]

and if you get stuntman or burnt running pairs u lowkey probably just guarantee a win

[haughty condor]

this

[humble gulch]

Stuntman is high card

[haughty condor]

true but it's not bad with pairs either

[frank grove]

Its very consistant, the levels scale a little better than hc whilst being basically the same chance to draw one, you can hold more value in your hand and still scale whilst digging with hands, most jokers work really well and a lot of the good pair jokers remove one of the more annoying stickers (perishable) since things like const and bus cant have it

[haughty condor]

pairs work well with The Glorious Green Goat, Grand Regent Groker, ride the bus, supernova, etc

[humble gulch]

Pairs are the handsome sibling of flushes

[knotty zodiac]

just had an insane run with stuntman burglar where i needed 5/7 pairs

would not recommend xD

[haughty condor]

Flushes have great scaling!

[patent sail]

@groker generate me +1 mult per hand played

[knotty zodiac]

flushes have the same exact chip scaling as pairs ><

[haughty condor]

yea I was being sarcastic

[humble gulch]

Tribe is one letter away from Trib

[patent sail]

flushes have tribe!

[humble gulch]

Pretty self explanatory

[patent sail]

which doesnt do much but

they have it

[alpine lynx]

imagine if vouchers got stickers too

[knotty zodiac]

poes law at work

[half cedar]

Trib runs or baron runs?

[patent sail]

baron

[humble gulch]

Baron is trash

[humble gulch]

Trib at least works

[half cedar]

Got this today

[patent sail]

whatever i was doing yesterday

[haughty condor]

for endless or ante 8

[half cedar]

But I turned into a baron run

[half cedar]

True

[patent sail]

baron is better in endless

[haughty condor]

if you wanna go endless baron obviously but for ante 8 trib obviously

[patent sail]

scalable unlike trib

[half cedar]

True

[haughty condor]

trib dies at like 18 or so with sock

[half cedar]

I like playing casual runs but with a baron and mime in ante 2 I had to go endless with the potential

[ruby mulch]

i've never seen a non eternal cartomancer

[half cedar]

Luckily it was on plasma so I didn’t die too early

[ruby mulch]

but its ALWAYS holographic

[haughty condor]

if you get baron ante 2 u just die 99% of the time sadly

[haughty condor]

ok

[half cedar]

True

Luckily I had that joker that did like +100 chips if you do a straight

And it was foil

[knotty zodiac]

baron is usually not v good with straight x)

[half cedar]

It lasted me the time I had to make the baron and mime rationable

[half cedar]

Ye

But I eventually turned it into a high card run

And then I got to ante 22

With my best hand before on unseeded being 3 billion

But now it’s e59

lol

[digital pewter]

wait

can a balatrodle be the same joker twice in a row?

ok nvm

okay anyways balatrodle in 3 today

[haughty condor]

ejjhgtdfhcjlysyddolfyd

[ruby mulch]

anaglyph only gives value after ante 8

[lost vault]

ragebait

[neat stone]

When with next update be?

Or is it finished

[scarlet girder]

dude i keep getting yorick on gold stake and i genuinely can't win with him

it's like a curse

if yorick appears then the run is doomed

why does this keep happening

[turbid nova]

do you have a gold sticker on other legendaries

[scarlet girder]

not yet

i know how legendaries work on gold stake

[dim sail]

I literally can’t beat purple stake

[scarlet girder]

but this is insane

I've only gotten yoricks on gold stake

twice in a row

[abstract oyster]

FINALLY

[scarlet girder]

two runs back to back

[dim sail]

Nice

[opal fiber]

crazy work

[echo owl]

will i be able to scale well enough

[livid scroll]

this has to be a joke

[scarlet girder]

i think this is actually harder to do

[livid scroll]

well

i don't know if i'm really proud of it

it's like running a marathon and retiring 50 meters away from the finish line

[frank grove]

more like 14 steps away 😭

[livid scroll]

yeah..

[compact gazelle]

technically it’s off by half an order of magnitude or so :3

[echo owl]

i feel demoralized ive lost all my last runs by such small margins

[worldly carbon]

Hi yall

[neat ore]

Honestly if I don't get photo Chad in the first ante I restart the whole thing

I NEED it

[humble gulch]

Yo, everyone horse them

[patent sail]

average faces player

[compact gazelle]

horse’d

must be blissful to be a

[neat ore]

What why?

[patent sail]

white stake so painfully easy

[humble gulch]

White stake is boring ❤️‍🩹

[patent sail]

i dont even play white stake on my phone anymore

[compact gazelle]

white stake is the place we do not speak of

[patent sail]

where it was just defaulted to ghost deck white stake for passing time

[neat ore]

I dont understand guys.... but photo Chad is op?

[humble gulch]

Photo chad is mediocre

[opal fiber]

wee joker better

[patent sail]

average roffle watcher

[neat ore]

But roffle said...

[compact gazelle]

chad is good and photo is bad so the pairing evens out to just so so

[humble gulch]

REAL

Basic maths

[neat ore]

How good is 5 copies of 8 ball?

[scarlet girder]

sentence never once typed or uttered in history

[humble gulch]

Unless they're polychrome or you're spamming glass or steel you're dead

[knotty zodiac]

about as good as 1 vagabond until u have some deckfix

[neat ore]

How about 5 copies of shortcut

[knotty zodiac]

winning immediately

[compact gazelle]

5 shortcuts contains a shortcut and having a shortcut is a winning position

[sudden reef]

This is so peak...

[knotty zodiac]

solid!

[scarlet girder]

plasma deck approved

[sudden reef]

Green Joker oh my god

I may cry

[knotty zodiac]

blackboard coming

[patent sail]

with vamp and midas, who do i put first?

[shell dagger]

vamp

[patent sail]

i fucking hate vessel

oh well even if i won id have 0 new stickers

so not sad

[shell dagger]

you might’ve had more money if vamp was first 🙁

[patent sail]

i needed xmult asap

ante 1 holo groker we win

[rain matrix]

optimal ante 10 build

[patent sail]

I triggered idol on ante 8 build

insane

[patent sail]

i did it again

mot that it did anything

but i did it

ante 2 eternal marble sounds doable

[sudden reef]

ran out of cards lmao

gg

[uneven moon]

double showmen double trouble

[uneven moon]

ppl on this server have a gif for every situation

[willow frost]

we actually dont have a gif for any situation because theyre all banned

[knotty zodiac]

meme.gif.exe.png

[celest cobalt]

i need to sell my perkeo, dont I?

[shell dagger]

mime

[neat ore]

How good is 5 copies of roffle

[shell dagger]

perkeo is negative

[celest cobalt]

might as well just sell showman then

2 barons, 2 mimes and 1 ballot

thats good, right?

[echo owl]

madness joker is my favorite joker

[shell dagger]

having more than one baron/mime is not worth it

[echo owl]

sell mime

[celest cobalt]

then what do I use my blueprint on?
trembrulee?

[shell dagger]

right now probably

[celest cobalt]

and I keep my ballot, right?

[celest cobalt]

thats like 64* mult by using a glass Q/K

[stone shell]

holy money

only way to make this even better is if my judgement was like vampire or smth

[digital pewter]

only way to make it worse is THE PLANT!!!!!!

oh its challenge deck

does the plant even appear on that one or is it banned

since it'd be a little unfair

[cloud sinew]

#⚙・modding-general

[valid zodiac]

thanks! sorry

[frank grove]

its banned on mad world yeah

[stone shell]

plant is banned lmao

[patent sail]

ante 7 ox murdered my run

[digital pewter]

better be no zombies around...

[digital pewter]

did you have a bull or something

[patent sail]

boot 🦐

[digital pewter]

damn

[stone shell]

is midas already done with his job because theres hallucination

or do i have to make every card gold

[digital pewter]

i mean, getting it on the blue seals wouldn't be a bad idea but with that much potential moneymaking you could probably just get a few devil cards

[stone shell]

man i was about to say i could get rid of splash but hes helping way too much

maybe sock instead

or just midas

prolly midas is most expendable since one round already got 2/3rds the deck

[echo sphinx]

M O R E

[uneven moon]

i have big hopes in this run

[patent sail]

bp from first shop wraith

[stone shell]

shouldnt have sold midas im throwing so hard

[echo sphinx]

gg asfk

is ok time to cash out all the midas

[stone shell]

i skipped vampire out of spite

the money is worth more

[echo sphinx]

imagine if midas showed up again

[stone shell]

honestly the deck is thin enough that it could work

that also works 🙃

yeah i should've sold splash looking back but whatever

okay im just confused what the heck this run wants from me

every decision is punished

ill take the golden ticket since vagabond isnt proccing much with business anyway

[tough bane]

ive never gotten a gold stake win before im scared to mess ts up 😭

if i mess this up i might aswell delete the game but aifghiahjars

[uneven moon]

bp and perkeo on ante 3 is crazy good dont mess this run

[tough bane]

ik bro thats why im scared

[tough bane]

yo you tryna be my coach for ts

wait should i reroll tho for a consumable maybe?

[uneven moon]

im not that good sorry :[

[tough bane]

lol me neither all good tho

[primal heath]

sell hex

[uneven moon]

ye and sell ur hex its useless now

[tough bane]

alr did got uranus

[patent sail]

this run gives me a lot of negatives

[uneven moon]

its too late ballot... sorry 🥺

[stone shell]

i was gonna say keep hex for now so you can at least get perkeo value via selling it

[turbid nova]

🤨

[stone shell]

I WANT EVERYTHING BUT I CANT HAVE IT ALL GRAHHHHH

[uneven moon]

i got a bp next reroll

[knotty zodiac]

hm im falling asleep

but you can copy something better than hex. probably hermit or temperance or death or jupiter or world

and make sure youre getting two copies with bp

also you want to try to get to interest cap

[stone shell]

i have a red seal steel i can copy thats why i want dna

[turbid nova]

Biblical levels of greed

[stone shell]

i kid you not i lucked into midas mask and sock and golden ticket

[uneven moon]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NO WHY ME NO IM TOO YOUNG PLEASE

[stone shell]

ANTE 3 ASSEMBLY

[turbid nova]

Yeah I saw that earlier

[patent sail]

+2 stickers

[tough bane]

wait how do u have eternals on white stake

[stone shell]

challenge deck

[patent sail]

challenge

[tough bane]

how does that one work?

[uneven moon]

I WANNA CRY I JUST GOT BARON AND BP

[turbid nova]

I think you get no money from small and big blind

[patent sail]

hell yea

[patent sail]

interest doesnt exist

i think

[stone shell]

get no money from interest and extra hands, start with eternal negative pareidolia and business card

[turbid nova]

Mad world?

I think it’s called

[patent sail]

mhm

[tough bane]

ah ok

[uneven moon]

two of a two of a kind is broken

[stone shell]

basically your only income for the most part is cards and gambling

[tough bane]

but like do i keep hex now or no?

[patent sail]

also faces are missing

and aces

[knotty zodiac]

u want it copying something better

[stone shell]

dont keep hex if you already have something you want to copy

[turbid nova]

If you don’t find consumables

[knotty zodiac]

and perkeo picks randomly

[tough bane]

i mean for money

[turbid nova]

Keep it for money

[stone shell]

do you have another consumable worth copying right now

[turbid nova]

Always exit the shop with consumables even if they’re bad

[stone shell]

if not keep hex for the money

[patent sail]

yay

[tough bane]

this is my state currently

[knotty zodiac]

if there are 0 desirable consumables then ya its fine

but i think the sell price is the same

[patent sail]

23 jonklers left,,,,

[turbid nova]

The negative copies are worth more right

[tough bane]

yes

one is worth 4 pretty sure

[knotty zodiac]

$4

[patent sail]

only scary one is probably knife

[stone shell]

spectrals sell for $2 iirc so its prolly $5 to sell a spectral consumable idk

[knotty zodiac]

even the spectrals

[knotty zodiac]

i tested yesterday, its $4

[turbid nova]

I would know if Perkeo showed up for me

[primal heath]

You shouldn't keep hex, because it would destroy all but one of your jokers. Sell it

[stone shell]

boo inconsistency

unless it adds like $5 internally

[tough bane]

yes i obviously wouldnt use it but keep it for money

[patent sail]

negative is +5 dollars to the cost and sell value is half the cost rounded down

[knotty zodiac]

it make sense. spectrals cost $4, neg is +$5, sell price is half round down

[tough bane]

id say i buy the two pair and let perkeo decide

[celest cobalt]

this is the end....
im so dumb i forgot i can reroll boss blinds

[patent sail]

so tarots are $3 +$5 ($8) halved aka $4
spectrals $4 +$5 ($9) halved rounded down aka also $4

[knotty zodiac]

ig u get marginal utility from blocking both but ya once you have a useful one get rid of everything else

[tough bane]

ill just keep hex and buy two pair then and see

4$ btw

[knotty zodiac]

$8, sweet

should get u close to interest cap

[tough bane]

so now i sell both hex right?

oh no wait the other hex is still only worth 2$

well

20$ still ig

[knotty zodiac]

i would sell both negs

[tawny sluice]

nah why sell the negs and not the normals

[tough bane]

and then go spade flush?

[knotty zodiac]

sell positive when u need space or after u find a good copyable

[tough bane]

money

[stone shell]

extra money + not at interest cap yet

[knotty zodiac]

spectral/planet blocking

[tough bane]

ill go over to #🕹・run-discussion actually

[winged magnet]

Do yall always go endless?

[knotty zodiac]

its usually pretty quiet there..

[turbid nova]

No

Some setups are not built to last

[knotty zodiac]

almost never

[stone shell]

no sense of direction anymore what the heck am i supposed to do

[tawny sluice]

I have but might stop

[winged magnet]

So far i never turned down endless

[frank grove]

Almost never go endless

[stone shell]

no kings in the deck but it COULD be funny

[turbid nova]

Rn I’m doing C+ so I don’t care too much at the moment

[winged magnet]

Whats that?

[stone shell]

nah endless for most builds kinda ends at like ante 10-11 or smth like that

[turbid nova]

Completionist+ (complete all decks in gold stake)

[tough bane]

i should reroll here right

[knotty zodiac]

hm if you are scoring enough here i would take voucher and next

[tough bane]

but i need a good perkeo copy tho no?

[knotty zodiac]

wait

maybe not voucher

does voucher decrease consumable sale price?

[turbid nova]

Yes

[neat ore]

I call localthuck local hunk

[stone shell]

yes :P

[winged magnet]

Yeah i think that’s my end goal as well but we’ll see

[stone shell]

its only $1 as far as im aware

[knotty zodiac]

that's $2 every round

bc blueprint

hm

[teal thunder]

do i kill brainstorm or dna

[knotty zodiac]

plus reduced temperance value

[turbid nova]

Now if I find a seed like this

[knotty zodiac]

so prob not

[crystal kiln]

how do I beat green deck on blue stake like I am struggling

[turbid nova]

Then yes I keep going

[patent sail]

after reviewing my remaining jokers

hardest i have left are Dagger and Idol

[turbid nova]

This went into ante 19

My personal best so far

[knotty zodiac]

i think i reroll once here

[turbid nova]

(I found mime ante 9)

[tough bane]

that was my thought aswell

[knotty zodiac]

no voucher

[patent sail]

potentially DNA or HTR solely because they are rare

[stone shell]

you could afford to reroll twice since i think selling the negative consumables will get you back to interest cap

[knotty zodiac]

normally i would go 2 here if before small/big blind but want to save money for next voucher

[tough bane]

upcoming is boss

[knotty zodiac]

ya i guessed based on round number

[tough bane]

so 2 reroll right

ohhh

[stone shell]

wait you could potentially look at standards for blue seals

[tough bane]

first reroll is deja vu

[knotty zodiac]

i would reroll 1. but not wrong to take 2

[stone shell]

nevermind

[tough bane]

im guessing go full spade red seal?

[knotty zodiac]

deja vu hm

[stone shell]

i would go redseal spades mode

just be wary of the spades boss blind

[knotty zodiac]

ya for arrowhead

[tough bane]

so im selling two pair right

cus i need space

[knotty zodiac]

sell everything

[tough bane]

and keeping hex for money

[stone shell]

yup

[tough bane]

oh right

yeah

[stone shell]

oh yeah you have something worth copying now

why did we buy uranus if we wanted money we already have hex

[knotty zodiac]

idk but once bought, it was good for planet blocking

[tough bane]

just for scoring but i just noticed myself that thats lowk hella dumb

anyways

im selling all for deja vu then

[knotty zodiac]

btw have u seen the spade boss yet this run

[tough bane]

dont think so

[knotty zodiac]

do you remember which bosses uve seen

[tough bane]

uhh

once the one where previous cards are disabled

once diamonds disabled

and now this i think

[knotty zodiac]

ok

[clear mulch]

goo goo ga ga

[knotty zodiac]

so u probably want a mix of red seals on faces/nonfaces

bc u havent seen plant yet

[tough bane]

yea

did ace and jack now

buy voucher right

38$ btw currently

[knotty zodiac]

jack is a good choice, i would consider queen for stm

buying voucher is tradeoff

besides tarots u also really want a mult joker

[tough bane]

yeah struggling with that rn

[knotty zodiac]

u look like u have chips covered, so blue seal not critical yet

[neat ore]

Joker idea! Gives plus 30 chips if a hand contains high card!

[knotty zodiac]

i probably roll to try to find better mult

[tough bane]

so buy voucher or no

id say yes

[knotty zodiac]

i lean no but u could find hermit or temp, thatd be a big win

[tough bane]

well thats why

hmm

[tawny sluice]

so +30 chips?

[knotty zodiac]

hm

if u want tarot maybe open a standard pack

you might get purple seal

[tough bane]

oh riught

mega or normal

[knotty zodiac]

that way it doesnt clog the shop

i think u have enough money to open both. i go mega first

[tough bane]

js 4 and jack right

[knotty zodiac]

u have no blue right?

[tough bane]

no

[knotty zodiac]

i think u will have plenty of red seals, i would take just the jack

[stone shell]

mime is decent here right

[tough bane]

its mega

[knotty zodiac]

unless you need scoring right now

[tough bane]

i can pick both

[stone shell]

just skip the 4

[knotty zodiac]

so red seal gives more scoring but buries your other better cards

[patent sail]

double investment skip ante 1

never punished

[tawny sluice]

just about worth it yeah

[patent sail]

aaaand first pack both jokers are rental perishable

[knotty zodiac]

we want u to find your blue/purple/gold seals

[tough bane]

so im still taking both cards tho right?

[stone shell]

just take the jack

[knotty zodiac]

i would not unless your scoring is in danger

[stone shell]

the 4 isnt needed, you'll already have plenty of red seals

[tough bane]

id say it kinda is

[tough bane]

plenty = 2 currently

[knotty zodiac]

how many flushes do u need to play to win?

[tough bane]

i got 7k last round with the spades i think

i need 9k

[knotty zodiac]

mm its tight

[tough bane]

but i copied arrowhead

is joker better?

[knotty zodiac]

gotta do the math. depends on how many red seals

[tough bane]

well ill see then

ill just take both cards

[knotty zodiac]

assuming planet lv 1, copying jimbo gives +50%

arrowhead probably more

[tough bane]

interesting

[stone shell]

i think copying arrowhead is like always worth it with low planet levels

[tough bane]

blue right

[stone shell]

BLUE SEAL

GET THE BLUE SEAL

[knotty zodiac]

blue seal yep

[tough bane]

reroll?

id say no right

i have 26%

26$

[frank grove]

the first of the many "make every challenge deck abandoned" runs 🔥

[stone shell]

i would reroll for extra scoring and comfort here tbh

any plus mult is better than jimbo right now

[tough bane]

yeah perishable egg and eternal crazy joker

ill just go in

[stone shell]

yikes

yeah good luck the scoring here might be tight

[knotty zodiac]

if you can greed, try not to use both red seals unless u have to

[stone shell]

may need to use all your reds to survive if it was that close unless you had an extra hand to spare

[tough bane]

wait

boss is no repeat hand types

and skip tag is reroll boss blind

[stone shell]

erm

[knotty zodiac]

u can play a straight flush if u hold a suit changer

[stone shell]

is this the small or big blind youre skippih

[knotty zodiac]

or u can try to oneshot it if your jokers allow

i wouldnt skip, scoring is tight already

[stone shell]

ah right

[tough bane]

small

[stone shell]

nah dont skip

if you can find a decent +mult youre golden already

for the boss

[knotty zodiac]

err, not acrobat

pray for abstract

[tough bane]

uhmmmm

[stone shell]

acrobat isnt awful here 😭

9x mult is enough

[knotty zodiac]

how many spades left, 9?

[tardy spade]

acrobat feels like emergency xmult you only take if offered nothing else

[knotty zodiac]

so if u can one shot, you can keep the blue seal almost risk free

do u know if u can oneshot

[tough bane]

dont think so

ill calculate real quick

[knotty zodiac]

what about with 3 red seals

[stone shell]

he said he scored 7k and an extra red seal likely wont help

[knotty zodiac]

they have 3

and then they can copy jupiter next time

[stone shell]

its so close to being winning

[knotty zodiac]

semi solves their mult

bp should probably be copying arrowhead

[tough bane]

blueprint on arrow does more then joker

[knotty zodiac]

you might draw a red seal

how many

2?

out of 11

[tough bane]

i have 2 to draw

[knotty zodiac]

mm

[tough bane]

and 2 extra to manually convert

[knotty zodiac]

so if u full discard, you are safer

but you lose the jupiter

[stone shell]

i think you get there with a few high card spades beforehand to help

[knotty zodiac]

if u need all 5 red seals to win, u prob need to discard 5

[tough bane]

oh and i also have the holographic jack to draw

[stone shell]

ah wait 3 hands

[knotty zodiac]

kinda doubtful that u can play 2 flushes from 3/0

[stone shell]

you are not scoring 2k with 2 non flush hands

[knotty zodiac]

ya you need to draw the oneshot somehow

[tough bane]

alr so ill just play a hand with everything other then spades / blue seal

[knotty zodiac]

u might need to play 5 cards discarding the blue seal

but... is that losing for next round? ugh

[stone shell]

next few rounds is fine if we just had a different +mult

[knotty zodiac]

i think this run is in trouble if there is no jupiter to copy

[stone shell]

very cooked

[tough bane]

medium rare bro

[stone shell]

actually not cooked yet

[knotty zodiac]

how many cards win?

3 right?

the 2 red seals and the holo

[tough bane]

yea

[knotty zodiac]

do we need 1 or 2 cards

[tough bane]

the jack is also steel btw

[knotty zodiac]

steel doesnt help unless you draw a 6th

[stone shell]

the holo is more important than the steel

[tough bane]

ye

so what do i play then?

8 10 4 right

[knotty zodiac]

thats kinda greedy

it means u only see 6 cards

[stone shell]

i would do 2 8 10 4

[tough bane]

wait ima see if red seal jack clears

[patent sail]

nat negative eternal rental senace

[knotty zodiac]

ya i think u need to hope to draw one red seal and one regular spade

[stone shell]

give up on the blue seal?

[knotty zodiac]

i think we cant

[tough bane]

red seal holo jack gives 5.6k

[knotty zodiac]

its small blind, they exit with $21

[stone shell]

im thinking you could since a better +mult joker could solve this mess for a little bit

and we need one anyway

[knotty zodiac]

ig rolling down to 0 temporarily solves it

probably

[stone shell]

im willing to do a $0 play here since no rentals

oh right we also have perkeo

[knotty zodiac]

we're using all 3 red seals. have to budget $3 for one more consumable

and it probably wont be as good as deja vu

[stone shell]

its gonna be death trust

[tough bane]

hsrhgisrg so what do i play now

[knotty zodiac]

temperance would be nice

um

i think theres some complicated math that i cant really do

[patent sail]

i wanna replace rocket for sticker, which one is better?

[livid scroll]

damn it, i was so close

[stone shell]

delayed grat since its an econ joker imo

[knotty zodiac]

but it's see 6 cards or see 8 cards or see 10

i feel like see 8 (toss one spade keep blue seal) prob safest

i think ral wants to dump the blue seal as well

[stone shell]

im fine with either but i would personally dump blue seal

[knotty zodiac]

so play 5?

[frank grove]

I think i dump seal there too

[stone shell]

play 5 to dig

[tough bane]

so everything from spade 2 to diamond 4?

[knotty zodiac]

sweet

[stone shell]

another red seal is needed right

[knotty zodiac]

now try to use the minimum number of red seals to clear

[stone shell]

also thats the standard pack red seal so it DID come in handy

[knotty zodiac]

i would prefer the 5 over the 8

[tough bane]

ill calculate to see

[knotty zodiac]

bc odd todd

9 > 5 > 8

[stone shell]

odd todd arrowhead is excessive

[frank grove]

yeah

[stone shell]

in the chips department

[knotty zodiac]

mm youre right

[frank grove]

i think the 8 is fine for speculative fib/8ball/steven

[knotty zodiac]

in fact it should be the opposite here

[stone shell]

hack is a good argument though

[frank grove]

i guess

[knotty zodiac]

8 first for even steven

[frank grove]

yeah

[knotty zodiac]

and fib

[stone shell]

yeah 8s

[knotty zodiac]

8 > 9 > 5

wait fib?

so 5 first?

[stone shell]

8 is a fib as well

[knotty zodiac]

8 5 9

i finally got there thanks

lol

[stone shell]

my greed wouldn't allow me to rank 9 so low

[tough bane]

if i play it with 2 more red seals then im like 100 short

[knotty zodiac]

so u need 3 seals then

ship it

[stone shell]

you'll get there with the accumulated score from high cards

[knotty zodiac]

oh ya play the garbage hand

[stone shell]

unless thats also including those

[knotty zodiac]

saving a red seal is $4

[tough bane]

so do i play the flush instantly to then high card or play a throw hand for a better one

[frank grove]

is there a reason they didnt roll last shop?

[stone shell]

greed great question

[knotty zodiac]

didnt realize scoring was this tight

[knotty zodiac]

hm is the throwaway hand enough?

[patent sail]

i take del grat here, right? (stickering)

[knotty zodiac]

15*5 does not clear 100

[stone shell]

with scores this tight exact numbers would be loved

[celest cobalt]

whats the best way to stack blueprints

get money and a showman?

the first time I can use ankh ig

[stone shell]

invis jokers and showman in general

[patent sail]

okay yeah i absolutely win

[frank grove]

inivs, showman and like money money moneyyy

[celest cobalt]

oh i havent unlocked invis joker

[patent sail]

anything i play scores 110k

[patent sail]

i can just play absolute bullshit and boss will perish

[celest cobalt]

the beauty of blueprint is i can use it to double my perkeo then double my dna and then double my dps
all with the same card

[stone shell]

dps in balatro

[celest cobalt]

yk what i mean

[tough bane]

a high card with anything thats not spade doesnt really do it

nvm i can high card even without spade after the flush to clear

i just gotta use 2 red seals then

[patent sail]

+2 stickers (dont mind jimbo being mean today)

[knotty zodiac]

pair clears? i prob risk 2 seal + look for pair

[stone shell]

how do i change the text like doc did for his stuff

[knotty zodiac]

or any spade

[patent sail]

if you have steammodded i can show you

[stone shell]

pairslopping in a clear flush build is wild

[tough bane]

yeah i dont get why i should pair

[knotty zodiac]

9 spades left, roughly 90% to draw a pair

[knotty zodiac]

if hc doesnt clear right?

[tough bane]

it does

[stone shell]

2 hands left right

[tough bane]

by like 2

[knotty zodiac]

if hc clear then play that ya

[tough bane]

so i use 2 red seals for the flush

and play it to then high card

[tardy spade]

I love getting great jokers from the very start

[knotty zodiac]

play the garbage first

[stone shell]

this is so so so extremely cooked unless the outs are drawn

[knotty zodiac]

then double check math

[tardy spade]

makes runs like this much easier

[knotty zodiac]

then apply seals

[tough bane]

i have 270 already

[patent sail]

go to Appdata/Roaming/Balatro/localization, steal en-us.lua from balatro exe, paste that stolen file in there and you are free to edit anything you want

(of localization folder doesnt exist make one)

[stone shell]

thats like 70 ish away?

[tough bane]

basically

[stone shell]

ah 84

[tough bane]

example

[frank grove]

nice

[stone shell]

okay yeah you should be good

[patent sail]

jimbo looks high here

[stone shell]

i forgot you had jimbo

[patent sail]

why are his pupils this big

[stone shell]

was calculating it without a jimbo

[knotty zodiac]

i forgot the bp

[tough bane]

so i play flush with 2 red seals from me (4 total) right

[knotty zodiac]

yep

[frank grove]

yeah

[stone shell]

yes

[knotty zodiac]

this is a spicy round 🌶️

[stone shell]

as much as i shittalked jimbo and said if only we had a better +mult, i will say he's at least putting in the work

[tough bane]

i have a 7 pair with a spade in it

[frank grove]

yeah do that probably

[knotty zodiac]

i play pair for supernova value prob

[frank grove]

yeah

[tough bane]

holy shit this round is making me nervous

oh waittt

fool

[knotty zodiac]

lol dw all my rounds are like this

except in my head

[stone shell]

ive had some scarily close calls with scoring on my end as well

never this stressful because it has a shot at winning though

[patent sail]

place your bets ladies and gentlemen will they reach 130 stickers today or the game will decide to be mean for no reason and block me from winning any run!

[stone shell]

worse

[knotty zodiac]

135

[stone shell]

it'll allow you to win but wont give you the unstickered jokers

[tough bane]

hey gemini what do i do

[knotty zodiac]

what is in the fool

[stone shell]

holy shit fist save

[tough bane]

hermit

[knotty zodiac]

LOL

both problems solved

[stone shell]

what if jupiters in planets though

[frank grove]

use hermit 😭 i would take fist over crafty?

[knotty zodiac]

fool for hermit

fist over jimbo?

[stone shell]

over crafty

[tough bane]

do i buy fool, open pack and then see what i fool?

[frank grove]

crafty doesnt do anything if we move to fist

[stone shell]

crafty is there for moral support

[frank grove]

use hemit 20 dollars is worth it here

ooh wait

could hold hermit actually

thats probably it and then gg

[knotty zodiac]

hold hermit i think

[frank grove]

yeah i agree

i forgot about the perkeo

[stone shell]

fool and hold hermit for perkeo

sell crafty for fist and sigh because scoring is solved

[knotty zodiac]

well

[tough bane]

use fool -> hermit, open planet for jupiter + buy fist?

[knotty zodiac]

we still want a suit changer for eye

[patent sail]

no way

[knotty zodiac]

but that can wait for the $40

[frank grove]

wait why do we need suit changer for eye

[knotty zodiac]

wait does fist clear oneshot!

[stone shell]

wait why eye

[knotty zodiac]

its eye right?

[patent sail]

so it stops looking

[stone shell]

eye gets one shotted thanks to fist

[knotty zodiac]

ya we good

[frank grove]

yeah the red seal value actually is pretty good here

[tough bane]

?

[frank grove]

i dont think you need to open packs for anything

[stone shell]

i'd say yes to everything except planets for now but thats just me

scoring is already solved with fist arrowhead and bp

[frank grove]

i would just fool the hermit take fist over crafty go next

[tough bane]

oh since fist is enough for scoring?

[knotty zodiac]

they have $40 incoming, is there higher priority spend?

[stone shell]

fist is enough

[tough bane]

i need 13.5k next

[stone shell]

even fist on 3 should be enough

eh actually maybe 4

[frank grove]

fist is perishable

[patent sail]

whatever bro