🕹・game-discussion

[humble gulch]

🐑

[cloud sinew]

you could but

[humble gulch]

I'm bored

[cloud sinew]

rental and also not guaranteed

[waxen quartz]

doubters in shambles

[serene forge]

never punished

wow

[pale wolf]

ok

[waxen quartz]

never punished would be chad + gold 🙂

[pale wolf]

faceless perishes soon anyways

[humble gulch]

Yeah, that was a good choice

Bleh

[turbid nova]

burger

[pale wolf]

i didnt take the burger

[humble gulch]

WHAT

[turbid nova]

john balatro really said let's give this guy a free win

[humble gulch]

Gg

Bruh, both grimbo or riff raff were a free win

[mental solar]

You have the free win seed.

[clear mulch]

BALATRO SOURCE CODE IS MISSING ONE SPACE !!!!!!! UNACCEPTABLE !!!!!!!!!!

[turbid nova]

🚨

[pale wolf]

its better than square (128)

[turbid nova]

take to the moon then too

[pale wolf]

i hate this seed it's too easy

idk if i even wanna keep ttm

[humble gulch]

Uh

[cloud sinew]

this is ~1 in 12.6 billion

[turbid nova]

I haven't seen this voucher in so long

[mental bloom]

Free win

[humble gulch]

ASBEBEMMIEWIWKANS WHY

[mental bloom]

HAHAHAH

I call

Yorick

[long zodiac]

canio probs

[humble gulch]

I only can get Perkeo

[long zodiac]

oh this is gold stake

[mental bloom]

Ooooooh

[humble gulch]

Bleh

[cloud sinew]

bleh

[mental bloom]

Blehhhh :3

[cloud sinew]

u should find something for perkeo to copy

even if it's just a shit consumable, it's still +$8 a round

[mental bloom]

mercuries

[humble gulch]

Lol

[cloud sinew]

wee + bp + perkeo is setting up for a 4oak build

[mental bloom]

Oh well, perfect

[cloud sinew]

esp on red deck

[mental bloom]

48$ per round

[mental bloom]

right

[humble gulch]

A SINGLE LUCKY GAVE ME 60 DOLLARS ❤️‍🩹

[mental bloom]

YO

[cloud sinew]

wheels are now an econ investment

[mental bloom]

WOWWWW

[pale wolf]

not savescumming it so talisman it is

[cloud sinew]

uh

money is not a priority so yeah

not risking the 5/8 it kills the blue seal

[azure copper]

do i sell golden

[cloud sinew]

if anything you should sell swash

[azure copper]

yeah right

[cloud sinew]

golden is 1.5x and +$4, swash doesnt really do much if you have photochad

[azure copper]

doesnt work

with chad

🔥

[pale wolf]

hmm

[cloud sinew]

are you stickering

[halcyon moon]

okay Italian boy/girl

[pale wolf]

i am but im likely to replace a perished rental burnt with xmult regardless

[humble gulch]

Guh

[cloud sinew]

whats your pair level at

because you could just drop square tbh

[pale wolf]

1

[cloud sinew]

over the next 5 rounds you'll get +150 from burnt joker

[pale wolf]

i went into high cards because of 2 bad rounds for draws

[cloud sinew]

lol

whats your hc level then

[pale wolf]

only 8

[cloud sinew]

and what's square at?

[pale wolf]

150

[cloud sinew]

oh

[hearty tusk]

damn

[cloud sinew]

i think i drop square here then

[hearty tusk]

thats a big square

[pale wolf]

not really tbh

[cloud sinew]

not really if you consider that they have 6 hands

[hearty tusk]

almost a rectangle

[humble gulch]

Lol

[cloud sinew]

150 square is 38 hands

[hearty tusk]

6 HANDS!? WHAT ARE THEY, A MANSPIDER?

[mental bloom]

woaaaaah

[pale wolf]

im dropping jimbo for safety

[cloud sinew]

thats fair

[pale wolf]

the commons will come around

[turbid nova]

funni

[humble gulch]

100 JJ in 4 rounds

Nevermind, 3

[cloud sinew]

petition for diet cola to say "JOKE" instead of "JOKER" on the card art

[pale wolf]

it does, in the middle

🦓

[cloud sinew]

"instead of"

[mental bloom]

diet cola's a joke

[cloud sinew]

don't try and weasel out of this, i know my conditional statements are infallable

[humble gulch]

Fucking finally, I don't have to worry about legendaries anymore

[mental bloom]

congrats!!! that's some big score 👀

GSG again?

[humble gulch]

Yes

[pale wolf]

anyways read the joker design guidelines bozo

[mental bloom]

Ooooooh :P

then good luckkkk!!

[hearty tusk]

"why would it do tha–ooooooooooh"

[humble gulch]

What would happen if Out were betrayed and locked up in the GSG room for one millenia

[mental bloom]

It's already happening

[humble gulch]

Free win

[pale wolf]

petition for one side to say Joka and the other Kola

[cloud sinew]

truuuue

[pale wolf]

also I've thought about this a couple times but I never actually mentioned it

I think diet cola is actually caffeine-free as well

[bronze leaf]

Diet cola typically isn't caffeine free

[cloud sinew]

it is not

[pale wolf]

it has the orange/gold theming of caffeine-free diet coke

normal diet Coke just has the silver can

or gray label

[cloud sinew]

twin

[viral ledge]

what are the chances of pulling a hand like this naturally on an unmodified deck?

[cloud sinew]

diet cola is meant to be a glass bottle

[humble gulch]

Talking about legendaries

[bronze leaf]

That's gold, the joker is orange

[humble gulch]

YESSS

[potent tree]

uh oh...

[cloud sinew]

:(

[primal heath]

nat negative yorick

[potent tree]

wait would chicot actually be a good pull here

[bronze leaf]

Chicot is always a good pull

[long zodiac]

nah double rental polychrome perishable banana is good, trust me bro

[potent tree]

canio

[cloud sinew]

it's still 2.25x / $12 if you sell one

[potent tree]

well this is gonna be fun

[mental bloom]

NICE

[cloud sinew]

it makes me sad when people are rewarded for silly plays though

[humble gulch]

Gg

[bleak bolt]

do i even replace anything

[cloud sinew]

theyre both not orange

[humble gulch]

BRO

[long zodiac]

Objective: Fish for fools

[potent tree]

JUST after you said that

[knotty zodiac]

dumb stuff in white stake continued:

hit the road merry andy

[bleak bolt]

pants are basically a x4 does anything beat that for an ante 8 run

[humble gulch]

Guh

Stop it

[potent tree]

UHH

[cloud sinew]

what are your poker hand levels like

because selling wee is a consideration

[mental bloom]

everyone seems to be getting legendaries s lol

[cloud sinew]

i would sell wee

wee is ~1.3x rn

[potent tree]

DAMN perkeo. should've kept that hangedman

[bleak bolt]

canio bruh

might be a 1x

[pale wolf]

oh yeah I'm going to get a soul late my current seed And I'm going to have to skip it because I already stickered all the legendaries

[pale wolf]

I've already had to skip one legendary for stickering priorities

[bleak bolt]

oh well just got a foil from a wheel as compensation

[slim swift]

Chat, would you believe me if I said I only took one ectoplasm?

Because this run started with a nat negative Idol, AND was a Vagabond run

[mental bloom]

ooooooo

damn you're far

[pale wolf]

seems like they are all canio as well

[mental bloom]

truuuue

[pale wolf]

wacky

[slim swift]

lmao ok

[pale wolf]

oh boy, nothing

[bleak bolt]

ended on 6x not bad

[pale wolf]

there should be a cigarette Joker

[long zodiac]

Or a Stoner version of drunkard

[bleak bolt]

it already exists, its a common and gives +4 mult

[humble gulch]

Free win

[pale wolf]

I thought it gave plus 25 chips per rock in the deck

[frank grove]

Let’s gooo!!! (Also I’m becoming the abandoned guy? 😭)

[pale wolf]

abandoned is awesome

[modest mist]

I've also beaten Ghost first try

[modest mist]

Speaking of abandoned.

[restive shard]

anybody got any tips for jokerless?

[pale wolf]

Skip for red card value

[restive shard]

id love some help

[modest mist]

[lost vault]

patience

[pale wolf]

straights or sometimes four of a kind, and definitely blue seals

[modest mist]

I already took it and won anyways

[potent tree]

trading card over bones/duo?

[lost vault]

probably not

[pale wolf]

either one seems fine to me yeah

[lost vault]

unless your canios are small

[potent tree]

canios are x7 atm

[frank grove]

If you have a lot of faces left yeah do it

[humble gulch]

He needs to be purple addicted

[lost vault]

the xmult is likely more valuable than the canio scaling

[pale wolf]

7* 7 to 9* 9 is 49 to 81

[lost vault]

true

[restive shard]

bombokalt to everyone

[potent tree]

i got 6 faces left atm unless i pull a pareidolia somewhere

[bronze leaf]

Concept joker: Tobacco Joker
This joker gives X5 Mult, but costs $2 per use. This cost doubles every round..

[lost vault]

but its not like canio cant be scaled wothout tc

[knotty zodiac]

becoming?

[humble gulch]

I don't know how to read

🗣️

[pale wolf]

so after three rounds it is better than a 2X

[frank grove]

Yeah I guess I just am the abandoned guy

[lost vault]

assuming they destroy a face every round with trading card specifically

[pale wolf]

true

[restive shard]

orgaznization

[woven hare]

numel

[potent tree]

mega camerupt my beloved

[woven hare]

shoutouts to numel

[cloud sinew]

I don't really like it. costing money per hand is fine for how strong it is, but that price scaling that quick feels far too punishing

[bronze leaf]

Yeah doubling is probably not the way, but I want it to increase quicker than a flat increase

[woven hare]

just do 1.5

[humble gulch]

Something something purple guy

[pale wolf]

it gives me Bean vibes in terms of temporary utility

[potent tree]

the problem is i already have a reliable means of destroying cards (justice copy) so i'm still debating

[knotty zodiac]

what happens when you reach $0?

[potent tree]

and also i can't ditch the card once i pick it up

[potent tree]

you probably go into debt like the tooth

[lost vault]

is glass really reliable though :p

[bronze leaf]

When you can't pay for its use it either self destructs or doesn't have any effect or debt.

[potent tree]

i've had 3 breaks this run already so i guess

[lost vault]

alrighty

[cloud sinew]

that doesn't feel like vanilla behaviour

[pale wolf]

oh but like you could just keep using it and going further and further into debt

[potent tree]

best on golden needle fr

[cloud sinew]

everything that removes money as a part of it's effect can cause you to go into debt

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[knotty zodiac]

so if lucky procs, it activates bc of joker turn order. would be interesting

(unless self destruct)

[potent tree]

wait i can get free baron sticker rn

baron in a canio run!! what synergy!!

[woven hare]

we love rental egg

[pale wolf]

I do like the idea of a joker's downside being that it costs money to use per hand

[woven hare]

balls joker

[lost vault]

yummy

[bronze leaf]

"this joker gives 5X Mult. It costs $1/played hand, and this cost increases by an additional $1/round"

[knotty zodiac]

seems like a fine pickup for a fullskip or in ante 8

[woven hare]

hi srimky

[bronze leaf]

Debt is probably fine then yeah

[frank grove]

Yeah it’s basically vv protection just like loyalty but without the setup

[woven hare]

is loyalty ever good

[knotty zodiac]

debt would make it kinda op

[cloud sinew]

yes

[woven hare]

how u use it

burglar?

[bronze leaf]

The idea for this joker is that it's really good and cheap....at first but quickly becomes expensive for the same benefit

[frank grove]

Burglar synergy is fun, but usually you just line it up for tougher bosses like needle/wall/vv

[knotty zodiac]

alternate name- hedonic treadmill

[woven hare]

oh makes sense

[cloud sinew]

If it's tobacco, making it harm you if you try to get rid of it would be a cool flavour

[slim swift]

oh hey antimatter

[pale wolf]

it will only actually sell the round after you hit the sell button

[bronze leaf]

"This card cannot be sold for 10 rounds"

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt make much sense for the theming

[bronze leaf]

No, but there's a lack of mechanics that stick around after you sell a joker

[lost vault]

bweh

[lost vault]

theres quite a few on sell effects tho

not a ton

invis luchador cola

egg technically

[pale wolf]

they're talking things like burnt, hiker, Midas

[potent tree]

ok surely bones meets his end now right

[cloud sinew]

gift card, space joker

[lost vault]

oh

[knotty zodiac]

tobacco is hard to kick

maybe after 3 rounds, it becomes eternal

[lost vault]

do on sell effects not count

guess

not

[cloud sinew]

cola and invis sure, but i wouldnt count luchador

[pale wolf]

I guess you could consider the lingering money after selling egg

[lost vault]

thats fair tbh

lucha can save runs tho

thats pretty permanent

[bronze leaf]

Debuffs all cards for one round if sold after 3 rounds maybe?

[lost vault]

not very impactful

usually

[bronze leaf]

These are all effects that affect specific cards, not everything

[frank grove]

imagine this joker as rental as well

[lost vault]

burnt affects hand types what

[pale wolf]

burnt upgrades the pair card

[cloud sinew]

lasting indirect effects arent really included or everything would be a "permanent effect"

[potent tree]

should i ditch duo for eternal trio (buffoon pack) and then ditch bones for brainstorm

[lost vault]

maybe

:p

[slim swift]

wat

[lost vault]

probably

[slim swift]

bruh

[pale wolf]

why not duo this time

oh i see

[knotty zodiac]

only really affects onscore play, i feel like we can do better

[turbid nova]

I mean had to try for trib

you got rid of a chad tho dam

[knotty zodiac]

if there was a boss blind called The Leg, what would it do?

[slim swift]

it's okay, I got a seltzer

[pale wolf]

decrease played cards' chips or something idk

[bronze leaf]

Any hand containing a pair cannot be scored

[frank grove]

anti hiker 😭

[pale wolf]

[rank] and maybe

[ancient tapir]

Which deck do yall recommend to complete on golden stake? (Excluding Ghost deck cuz I've already won a gold stake on it :3)

[turbid nova]

straights 🔥

[pale wolf]

black

[lost vault]

all of them

[red briar]

i see how it is balatro

[pale wolf]

#⚙・modding-general

[ancient tapir]

i cant play on every deck at onceee...

[frank grove]

What would an everything deck look like?

[ancient tapir]

No idea

[frank grove]

Starts with hex and two fools but you only have 2 consumable slots cause of nebula 😭

[pale wolf]

no interest +10 is interesting

[frank grove]

yeah

No face cards but it’s erratic as well 😭

and it’s only hearts and spades 😭

[pale wolf]

tiny erratic death

deck

[ancient tapir]

And 5 joker slots but -1 hand and +2 hand size

[faint linden]

I hate Nebula Deck

[frank grove]

But +1 hand from blue and +1 discard from red 😭

[ancient tapir]

Yuh, I forgot

[pale wolf]

no hand from blue

black

[frank grove]

Well they cancel eachother out

[lost vault]

+1 discard, +1 hand, remaining hands give 2 dollars, remaining discards give 1 dollar, no interest, start with $10 extra, -1 hand, +1 joker slot, start with telescope voucher, -1 consumable slot, start with 2 copies of the fool and the crystal ball voucher, start with hex, spectral cards can appear in the shop, start with tarot merchant, planet merchant, and overstock voucher, no face cards, 26 spades, 26 hearts, -1 joker slot, +1 hand size, gain a double tag when beating a boss blind, balance chips and mult after scoring, 2X blind size, all ranks and suits in deck are randomized

[faint linden]

We talking Omni Deck?

[pale wolf]

You didn't even take the time to cancel the ones that negate each other

🦓

[lost vault]

:3

[frank grove]

The deck would be so weird

[mossy scarab]

omni man

[lost vault]

i wanna try it

i wonder if someone's modded iy

[pale wolf]

it would be the most flush House deck of all time

[lost vault]

antimatter deck doesnt count

[faint linden]

Would probably be fun

[lost vault]

mhm

[lost vault]

actuallu maybe it does if you could remove the cryptid jokers and consumables

cuz antimatter deck only applies the effects of decks you've beaten on gold stake

wait no antimatter deck only applies the upsides

oops

[faint linden]

Literally one voucher away from C. Need Petroglyph to appear in the shop

[lost vault]

im surprised illusion isnt your last

[pale wolf]

zodiac deck starts with the most vouchers, and anaglyph vouchers tag can help

[karmic warren]

so cute

[lost vault]

$20 yuri

[karmic warren]

ahhh the decision

[slim swift]

Ante 24 clear

somehow, the loyalty card became of use lmfao

[versed grove]

w polychrome riff raff choice

[fallow shadow]

bloodstone

[rancid drift]

Hiiii

[lost vault]

nat neg but its fucking droll joker

[versed grove]

a few minutes later i have this

[potent tree]

well, an unfortunate end to the run. we could not complete the yuri

both canios at x17

[slim swift]

took the showman in hopes for a fifth idol, to no avail. g fucking g, legendary run

[turbid nova]

gg

[cloud sinew]

@shell dagger do you know of when the earliest "idol online" build is, i.e all cards of the same suit and rank thats not erratic 10 of spades

[rancid drift]

Pam param pam

[potent tree]

i like it except iroh should be king, zuko can be jack

[lost vault]

tuff tuff tuff

[rancid drift]

Iroh is definitely cooler than Zuko, but Zuko became the Fire King.

[potent tree]

fair enough.

[cloud sinew]

water - clubs
spades - earth
diamonds - air

[pale wolf]

zuko should definitely be jack

[rancid drift]

I started from this

[lost vault]

i feel like spades should be air and diamonds should be earth

[potent tree]

also this is more of a personal thing but i think ty lee should be queen

[lost vault]

might just be me tho

[turbid nova]

ohhh cool

are you making them for all the nations

[pale wolf]

im more concerned about the pixel resolution not matching the ones ingame but maybe im misinterpreting the pic

[lost vault]

grah

idk earth looks more green than water

[rancid drift]

Yes! Next up is the Water Tribe.

[lost vault]

maybe clubs is more fitting

i guess high contrast exists

[turbid nova]

jack sokka, queen katara, king ??

their dad?

pakku?

[potent tree]

water tribe for spades undoubtedly, i think earth kingdom for clubs and air nomads for diamonds works

[lost vault]

but at base clubs are a dsrk green

[turbid nova]

yeah

I feel like clubs fit earth the best

[rancid drift]

Possibly. But wouldn't it be better to make Sokka the king and their father the jackal?

[turbid nova]

even though the high contrast colors are blue

[potent tree]

as comic relief i think sokka has to be jack

also would you consider including characters from korra?

[lost vault]

agree

[potent tree]

because if you did include from korra then you could put her as king, seeing as she is the avatar's incarnation

[turbid nova]

Air doesn't have many characters but I would put maybe Aang as Jack, Yangchen as Queen and monk Gyatso as King (swap king and jack if you want but I would put them like that)

[potent tree]

then you could put lin, toph, and (i forget his name from korra but he's the earthbender) as king, queen, jack

for earth

[turbid nova]

atp put Suyin to make the whole family

[rancid drift]

Well, I don't think I'll be adding anyone from Korra. From the people of Earth, I'll take Toph, King Bumi, and Suki.

[potent tree]

there is no war in ba sing se...

[turbid nova]

there is no credit card in the buffoon pack

[rancid drift]

From the people of the air Aang, Momo amd Appa

[potent tree]

ah yes, sky bison as the jack and flying cat...thing...as queen

wait momo's a lemur right

[rancid drift]

Yes! I think so.

[brave goblet]

wow I bombed a run cause I didn't play a glass card and lost by 50k

[pale wolf]

A flying lemur

[brave goblet]

didn't even mange to save scum in time

:jeocau

no chicot gold sticker ig

[potent tree]

CHICKEN STRIPS

[bronze leaf]

Suki isn't an earth bender tho

[potent tree]

wait you could put yue as queen(?) and then move katara up to king

[rancid drift]

I know people who can make mods to add deck customization. So, perhaps a deck with Avatar will be in the game with the help of a mod.

[waxen quartz]

just play it on purple stake, low blinds hurt. ante 7 blind rerolls into needle from crimson heart...could be better. made 2pr like 2/3 of the time, that could be improved too

https://miaklwalker.github.io/Blueprint/?seed=IB1DQOHC&deck=Red+Deck&antes=8&stake=Purple+Stake

[terse vale]

spade is definitely earth

[rancid drift]

She is from Kyoshi Island, and the island is in the possession of the people of the Earth

[terse vale]

cus spade = shovel

[potent tree]

true but as said before, clubs have a subtle green compared to spades which are more blue

outside of high contrast mode

[pale wolf]

i disregard low contrast

[terse vale]

oh I didn’t know it was just colors

[rancid drift]

So what suit should I use to detail the water tribe?

[turbid nova]

Sokka isn't a bender either but he has to be in water

[mental bloom]

FIRST PACK...

[potent tree]

water is spades has to be

[bronze leaf]

Clubs. It flows more than any other.

Or hearts?

[potent tree]

lex used hearts for fire

[pale wolf]

hearts to fire bc red is too good to ignore

[potent tree]

also bludstone

[pale wolf]

clubs looks like the air nomad symbol

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[pale wolf]

perhaps air should be spades because they look like an arrow?

[cloud sinew]

colour matters more i think

[pale wolf]

perhaps just change the four suits into the four kingdoms and ignore all this nonsense

[cloud sinew]

oh true

[pale wolf]

well not all of it but most of it

[rancid drift]

It’s just that in my mind I wanted to turn water into diamonds, the earth into clubs and air spades

[pale wolf]

I can see that

water is clear like diamonds

also they do ice

so it tracks

[bronze leaf]

Isn't that the same thing?

[pale wolf]

it would avoid having to care about the colors matching by replacing them

oh right time to finish this run

[bronze leaf]

The official Avatar playing cards already assigned them, fwiw

[rancid drift]

Wow

[pale wolf]

oh dang I was right at my gut

80 dolar

I like it!

[bronze leaf]

Concept: Moneybags Voucher
Doubles the dollar limit of The Hermit and Economy Tag

[pale wolf]

+2

and temperance

[bronze leaf]

Temperance has a limit?

[potent tree]

50 bucks

[bronze leaf]

Oh til, I've never gotten close so I forgot

[pale wolf]

one singular egg

[waxen quartz]

or gift card. hermit obviously needs a limit, but temperance could get away without one

[rancid drift]

By the way, have you seen the new avatar fighting game?

[frank grove]

very standard game, 100 flash 🔥

[pale wolf]

this seed SUCKS

[cloud sinew]

depending on your HC level, it could very well be better to take campfire instead of green joker

as it means you can copy it with brainstorm

[pale wolf]

base mult 16 vs groker 39 means i need to scale campfire like 3 times per ante to match?

[humble gulch]

Where 250 flash

[cloud sinew]

~1.58x campfire would be equivalent

but you also have to consider that you have 2 grokers (brainstorm) rn

[unique wedge]

I just realized that playing glass cards with the dice joker wasn't the smartest idea maybe

[pale wolf]

i was considering it ye

[cloud sinew]

you would need 5 scales to match current groker power

[pale wolf]

I'm also considering that I'm rapidly scaling planets

[crisp perch]

Insane stickers from one game

15 of em

[cloud sinew]

i would take campfire over green joker there because of how much econ you have

[pale wolf]

15 stickers?

[crisp perch]

Ye

[pale wolf]

how so

[crisp perch]

Went from 834 to 849

[cloud sinew]

theyre counting total stickers, not gold stake stickers

[pale wolf]

oh right haha

[crisp perch]

4 gold stake stickers

[pale wolf]

I hope the game shows gold stickers on their own in stats next update

[cloud sinew]

gold stake stickers is all that matters because all the lower ones are achieved by getting gold stake

[cloud sinew]

a sorting function in the collection would be nice

[pale wolf]

i still one day wanna get every stake sticker sequentially

[cloud sinew]

as in all white -> all red -> all green...?

[pale wolf]

yea

[vital cliff]

Is losing 3 hand size worth getting another baron or mime?

[humble gulch]

I stopped skipping purple seals because I'm scared of Argil

[earnest flame]

I call this build hit the road jack with an S in the start

[humble gulch]

STR

[hearty tusk]

hit the road jack

and dontcha come back no mo no mo no mo no mo

[earnest flame]

Nvm it became pretty good

[shell dagger]

no idea

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[potent tree]

enotsdoolB etah I

[serene forge]

Betah

[stark acorn]

joker line-up (i HATE photo btw i just constantly take chad whenever i see it, and photo keeps popping up like a damn curse)

[earnest flame]

like the record or what, on random seed?

[turbid nova]

photo hate on this server is getting tiring honestly

[frank grove]

ok 🔥 probably the biggest runner ive got in a while 😭

[stark acorn]

no i just hate photo because you ONLY take it with chad and photochad is basically just

brain off balatro

[hearty tusk]

brain off

hehe

[stark acorn]

like its fine ig on its own

[turbid nova]

I take it early if I have a +mult during scoring

[stark acorn]

nah i only take photo without chad if im like doing 4oak or smth with a high base mult

[frank grove]

yeah i only do solo photo with 4oak/straight

[turbid nova]

I'm quite fond of full house

[earnest flame]

well empty house does sound depressing in comparison

[stark acorn]

but like im actually fucking cursed

i NEVER see any soul cards but i KEEP fucking getting photochad

it wont leave me alone

HOW DO I MAKE IT STOP

[earnest flame]

yes, commons are more common than extra rare legendaries, that happens to all of us

everyone sees photochad all the time, you dont have to take it, there are better builds so

[unborn cliff]

whats wrong with that

[stark acorn]

YOU.

[serene forge]

how much are you getting paid to defend the lowest of the low

[unborn cliff]

i hexed your game sorry

[unborn cliff]

don't call him that

[serene forge]

I didn't call him anything

[unborn cliff]

sorry i misread

[unborn cliff]

yo

[modest snow]

if i have a glass card, then the glass card breaks or gets removed from my deck so i now have 0 glass cards, can glass joker still show up in the shop?

[stark acorn]

no i dont think so?

[unborn cliff]

no

[bleak bolt]

what are the odds of drawing a 9 card hand with no pairs

[frank grove]

i think glass jokers requirement is that you just have glass in the deck at some point not right that second

[turbid nova]

I'm just saying why does everyone feel the need to apologize about having photo as top 2

[bleak bolt]

or any hands except for the guaranteed flush

[turbid nova]

like bro almost everyone has it

[unborn cliff]

1 in 8.0658175e+67 or something

[unborn cliff]

super mega wrong math

[bleak bolt]

im so different and quirky and unique

[earnest flame]

its starting to get to the point where pairslop is getting worse than photoslop, photochad so old and outdated that its nostalgic

[bleak bolt]

you tried

[frank grove]

tbf this is gs abandoned streak only profile my main has chad in it

[serene forge]

when you put 10 idiots at a table together they don't magically become not idiots

[unborn cliff]

infinite monkey theorem

[turbid nova]

it's just the easiest way to win

[bleak bolt]

i❤️scaling jokers shirt

[serene forge]

maybe?

[hearty tusk]

extremely efficient joker placement

[earnest flame]

some people are mad when im recommending new players to stay away from pair meta until they are in the higher stakes

[bleak bolt]

its to grow my guys

[bleak bolt]

fixed it

[turbid nova]

you can reroll twice 🔥

amazing

[hearty tusk]

has anyone made yaoi of square and grimbo

yet

[serene forge]

what's your reasoning

[bleak bolt]

i hope not

[unborn cliff]

no but blueprint brainstorm yuri 📈📈📈📈

[serene forge]

even on white stake I find it difficult to not end up playing pairs a significant amount of the time because they are just that effective

[hearty tusk]

ive had enough of that

[serene forge]

is it annoying, maybe, but you can't deny what works

[earnest flame]

did you play pairs when you started?

[turbid nova]

I almost never play pairs on white stake

[unborn cliff]

whenever i play white stake ghost deck (for whatever reason) i usually end up in pairslop until i find an endless build

[turbid nova]

there's really no need

[earnest flame]

almost no one starts out with spamming pairs when they begin balatro, its usually flushes

[frank grove]

also the reasons pairs are good is a decent thing to tell new players

[earnest flame]

but if you give them advice for the pair meta then it just trivializes the whole early game experience

[unborn cliff]

i remember i tried doing a pair build back when i started but i did it wrong and just had all the pair jokers instead

[earnest flame]

why, they can just as easily beat the white stakes with whatever they want to play

[frank grove]

they dont have to do meta play but recommending that scaling jokers are good isnt a bad thing to do

[hearty tusk]

before I ever watched any balatro content and was discovering everything by myself, i used to hunt for royal flushes on the first round lol

[serene forge]

no, and I sucked ass

[hearty tusk]

... if thats what youre into, good for you, ig, damn...

[serene forge]

now I don't know about you but I don't go around telling people to intentionally be half assed

[unborn cliff]

😂😂😂 get it guys 😂😂

[serene forge]

when a guy comes here asking how to win after 20 hours they don't need to be told to play flushes because that's something a new player does

they want to be told... yknow, how to win

[hearty tusk]

what about gals

and non binary pals

[serene forge]

its not like you can just say "play pairs" and leave it at that

new players aren't going to instantly understand why pairs are so busted

[turbid nova]

And it’s not like they’re the best choice all the time

[earnest flame]

not playing pair meta =/= being half assed

[serene forge]

flushes are half assed though

[frank grove]

we're not saying they have to play exact meta builds but you can say that early game they shouldnt restart 30 times to find photo

[earnest flame]

im not telling anyone to go play flushes, you can advice people in multiple ways to get over their roadblocks without giving them tutorial on how to pairslop to gold stake

that is the advice I think is wrong for new players and I have a feeling it will at least partly ruin the early game experience

like giving them the pair meta builds etc.

they can learn that themselves once they get a handle on the game

[frank grove]

yeah of course but they're asking for help to win in this chat

[unborn cliff]

"how win"
"pairs"
"ok"

[bleak bolt]

beautiful run

pears for the win as usual

[unborn cliff]

suboptimal 🤓🤓🤓🤓 copy hologram 🤓

[bleak bolt]

not suboptimal

bum

[unborn cliff]

hey thats mean

[turbid nova]

I think that makes the score lower lol

[earnest flame]

when they are asking how to win its not like they just cant get anything done, most often what ive seen is that they die at around ante 6 which is an indication of maybe lacking behind on either chips or mult

[turbid nova]

If the planet level is too low

[bleak bolt]

im sorry

[earnest flame]

best to give them advice on how they could get past that, pair meta build is not the answer

[frank grove]

exactly which is where saying "square and bus can be good for builds like this" isnt a horrible thing to do

[earnest flame]

again did I say that is bad?

[unborn cliff]

x2.5 + 51 + 27 x2.5 is more than +51 +51 +27 x2.5

[unborn cliff]

i think,,, idk how math works

[turbid nova]

Depends on the planet levels

[earnest flame]

I said that advicing new players on how to build a pair meta build is bad

giving them tips on which jokers are good and can help them get past is good

[frank grove]

yeah exactly, but pair meta build includes a lot of scaling jokers

[potent tree]

23 2pairs on ante 6 is enough to shift to fullhouse right

[bleak bolt]

15 is my base mult so x2.5 is like a +22

[potent tree]

for obelisk

[earnest flame]

pair meta builds include lots of elements that are part of straight flush builds

[unborn cliff]

the party ended and hour ago and he's still here

[long zodiac]

Oh?

[long zodiac]

i think i just go next but holo runner is so tempting

[turbid nova]

Ante 7 tho

[lean kernel]

sigh it’s only taken me like 3-4 weeks to realize that the Balatro mod manager launcher isn’t making the game laggy, it’s specifically just one of the mods

[unborn cliff]

i dont think neptune is part of pair meta

[waxen quartz]

on ante 7 it isn't

[bleak bolt]

is shop 1 eternal marble jonkler a valid take

[long zodiac]

im getting like 150K from an ace high straight

[unborn cliff]

useless chud hack vs awesome epic runner

[turbid nova]

Is 15 chips gonna make the difference at this point

[bleak bolt]

that 60 chips and 10 mult on ante 8 boss🔥

[turbid nova]

You have a high castle

[unborn cliff]

shop 2 hologram trust me

[turbid nova]

Shop 3 stone joker

[unborn cliff]

totally

[bleak bolt]

oh hey hes here now

[potent tree]

i regret relying on obelisk already...

[bleak bolt]

and you lied too me

i HATE you

[unborn cliff]

5 rerolls

[turbid nova]

Runner with a deck bloated by stone cards is kinda ahh tho 😔

[serene forge]

do you have chip jonkler

[long zodiac]

Yeah the game was like “oh, you already have a winning run? Here. Win even more.”

[serene forge]

obelisk is generally hand agnostic

[bleak bolt]

yeah thats why i took bussin card

[turbid nova]

Yeah prob the best choice there

[potent tree]

nope and i stupidly decided to not invest in pair

[brazen raft]

new mobile pb

[serene forge]

show build

[potent tree]

run's gone and i started a new one

[serene forge]

bruh

[potent tree]

i decided fullhouse would work with obelisk and no handsize vouchers

[serene forge]

why

there are more hands than full hourse lol you just can't play two pair

[turbid nova]

Full horse 🐴

[bronze leaf]

Full horse 🐎

[potent tree]

none of the others were above level 4, i had card sharp as well

[bleak bolt]

dna photochud and for what

[potent tree]

and despite 4 discards i managed not to draw into a second fullhouse

[turbid nova]

The best obelisk hand to pivot from is flushes tbh

But that’s if you get it towards the middle and already fixed suits

[long zodiac]

GOD DAMN IT

[serene forge]

your planets generally don't really matter for obelisk pivots though

your scoring should be hand agnostic

[long zodiac]

how the fuck did i lose that run omg

[serene forge]

[long zodiac]

it wasn't even bloodstone's fault

that was my best bloodstone without an oops

[serene forge]

yes it was

[long zodiac]

like ever

[turbid nova]

As a full house representative yeah don’t use card sharp with it

[serene forge]

bloodstone makes you lose

all the time

[long zodiac]

it was my cards' fault bc i got a shitty draw

[serene forge]

that is what it was programmed to do

[bronze leaf]

Concept Joker: Full Horse
+100 Chips if played hand contains a Full House and a 4, 5, or 7.

[long zodiac]

not with hack where it has more chances to retrigger

[frank grove]

flowerpot probably wins there probably

[serene forge]

should've taken a card better than bloodstone then

[long zodiac]

not my fault that the game was giving me bullshit

[serene forge]

noob

[turbid nova]

Rate this jkr

[long zodiac]

okay go try and grind on nebula deck and see how you like it

[turbid nova]

Also shouldn’t be common but whatever

[raven raven]

thats awful

[turbid nova]

Whaaat

[raven raven]

cool card tho

[turbid nova]

Full houses are not that hard guys 💔

[serene forge]

@long zodiac explain why you skipped rebate in ante 3

[raven raven]

scales too slow

not worth

not talking abt rebate

[serene forge]

rebate

ah mb

I see

[turbid nova]

Still 0.25x too slow are we fr?

[long zodiac]

hm?

[serene forge]

obelisk scales 0.2x per high card for reference

[turbid nova]

Yeah but with buildup

[long zodiac]

it mustve been in the buffoon pack that i was too poor to buy

[earnest flame]

can you get obelisk online from ante 1 all the way to ante 8

[serene forge]

this is the shop queue

not the packs

[serene forge]

more likely than drawing full hourse consistently without dying

[earnest flame]

that full house joker would probably be close to 3x when you are only starting to bring obelisk up

[long zodiac]

you typed in the seed wrong

i had a gluttonous in ante 3

[hearty tusk]

wass the jokey jokey here

[bronze leaf]

huh?

[hearty tusk]

whats the joke about 4, 5 or 7

why those specific numbers, i mean

[bronze leaf]

It's the lucky numbers for the Horse in the Chinese Zodiac calendar

[hearty tusk]

oh neat

[humble gulch]

I hate Triboulet

[hearty tusk]

nice

thass you

[serene forge]

BD5DTEEI isn't it

[long zodiac]

Yeah

[serene forge]

hmm

[long zodiac]

I also don’t have merry andy, Hit the Road, or Golden ticket

Or seeing double

[serene forge]

hmm okay

that probably messes with the seed then

[light brook]

balatro question because i have zero clue how the game works:
do wilds work with idol?

[waxen quartz]

yes

[light brook]

i figured so but i could also see an argument against

[serene forge]

the only thing that works with idol is the new run button

[light brook]

true

[bleak bolt]

nice

[long zodiac]

Or just holding down the R key

[bleak bolt]

76 on the supernova

[long zodiac]

That one works every time with idol

[light brook]

i fear that does the same thing

[serene forge]

here, win

[long zodiac]

Yeah that was kinda my point lol

[bleak bolt]

2 more stakes and im done with this boring ass deck

[light brook]

holy smokes eternal too

[serene forge]

im gonna try gold stake gauntlet

probably gonna lose on like yellow deck or something dumb because i'm washed

[humble gulch]

Just take droll, it's not that funny ❤️‍🩹

[long zodiac]

Is there a website that analyzes your run like the ones that chess people use?

[humble gulch]

Real, yellow treats me so bad

[jade gorge]

Is there any way to get my progress back? I swapped phones and my play history seems to be deleted. I can see my achievements on Google play but once I open the app there's nothing unlocked

[serene forge]

no that would be impossible to program

that would be really funny though

[bronze leaf]

is this just win more

[pale wolf]

would i rather sticker fist or certificate

[serene forge]

picking up photograph without chad gets hit with the

cert

[jade gorge]

All progress gone

[long zodiac]

Nah doc just shows up on your screen and calmly chastises you

[frank grove]

another one 🔥

[humble gulch]

This is an intervention, you have a severe addiction

[frank grove]

I do have a problem

i saw like 4 different decent scaling options in ante 1/2 and still went for shortcut acro 😭

[humble gulch]

❤️‍🩹

Son (Turns 3 selected cards into hearts)

[serene forge]

what if i just reset for yorick

[potent tree]

if only this was a mega spectral pack, we would've been in business

[bronze leaf]

I'm on a roll

[humble gulch]

I was about to do it for Perkeo

[humble gulch]

No.

[bronze leaf]

why not

[pale wolf]

how

[frank grove]

mad joker if it sucked

[humble gulch]

Trousers

It's scaling

[serene forge]

rhythm heaven reference

[frank grove]

shortcut gaming

[bronze leaf]

I believe you :)

[pale wolf]

wack

[bronze leaf]

it probably needs to be stronger yeah

[frank grove]

also two runs back to back with shortcut 🔥

[humble gulch]

It probably needs a different approach

[serene forge]

the

[pale wolf]

GRIFF GRAFF!!!!

[bronze leaf]

• 0.25X Mult if a hand contains a two pair and four face cards?

[frank grove]

too strong

[humble gulch]

Holy Geometry Dash reference

[pale wolf]

i want discord nitro

[potent tree]

well i tried to get a new jonkler to sticker but didn't work out

[serene forge]

yeah

okay

[pale wolf]

dose anyone know how to unlock the nitro joker

[pale wolf]

wow

[earnest flame]

Ive never seen this, why did my BBC go grayscale

[pale wolf]

mods

[humble gulch]

Sell it for campfire value

[serene forge]

do i buy a spec license

probably not right

[earnest flame]

No mods, im on mobile

[serene forge]

next time nova, this is a fib run

[earnest flame]

It was normal, used temperance and it went like that

[humble gulch]

It's really awkward with campfire

[earnest flame]

Looks like a obituary photo or something now

John balatro is haunting my game

[serene forge]

what

i mean i don't even really want it but

what

i guess i could strength to ace

[waxen quartz]

search a hundred million seeds and what do you get?

[bronze leaf]

fantastic jack pull

[serene forge]

wait

drunkard appeared mid round and gave me a discard lmaooooo

[earnest flame]

Dunno, should probably make a bug report

[humble gulch]

Check your CPU's temperature 💖

[earnest flame]

My arm is telling me its cool

[serene forge]

mmm

this was reported once a year ago

[earnest flame]

Was it bbc specifically

Or just a poly card

[hearty tusk]

god damn the unrestricted internet access ive had since the age of 8, now I cant read BBC without bursting out laughin

[humble gulch]

Oats are so yummy

[hearty tusk]

are u perchance a horse

[humble gulch]

I'm a healthy fish

[potent tree]

don't ask about droll here

[bronze leaf]

hey what's up with the droll joker

[humble gulch]

Ante 11 level 14 pair is sad

[hearty tusk]

so sad i might explode

at any given momenf

[humble gulch]

Why don't people like raw tomato

And sometimes they would say "I don't like tomato" while they consume tomato in 100 different ways

[bronze leaf]

because raw tomato has a flavor and texture I don't enjoy

next question

[humble gulch]

I'm complaining about the "I don't like tomato" thing

🐑

[potent tree]

i like it

had some in a salad just earlier today

[humble gulch]

I eat whole tomatos like apples

[potent tree]

oh that's...unconventional

[humble gulch]

I mean

[bronze leaf]

that's a thing?

[humble gulch]

Tomatoes are fruits

[bronze leaf]

me too

[potent tree]

tomatoes

[humble gulch]

Yeah, like "I don't like tomato" and they would drink two gallons of pizza sauce

[bronze leaf]

I don't see the problem?

Pizza sauce isn't a tomato

[humble gulch]

Say that you don't like raw tomato

❤️‍🩹

[bronze leaf]

No

[humble gulch]

🐊

I could eat most vegetables raw

[bronze leaf]

I can eat lots of them raw

tomatoes are not one of them

[humble gulch]

Potatoes are yummy when raw

They don't taste half bad

[bronze leaf]

Potatoes are one of my core food groups along with rice, bread, pasta, and noodles.

who needs anything else

(Starches <3)

[humble gulch]

Isn't pasta a noodle?

[frank grove]

flip it

[bronze leaf]

Some of them are yeah but I more meant asian noodles

[humble gulch]

I mean, noodles are pasta and pasta are noodles

[bronze leaf]

pasta and chow mein are very different things

[frank grove]

yeah

some noodles are pasta and some pasta are noodles

[humble gulch]

🐑

[frank grove]

also noodles now doesnt look like a real word 😭

[humble gulch]

Let's categorize them as long bready steamed edible things

[pale wolf]

POOL NOODLES ARENT PASTA!!!!!!!

[frank grove]

could you make a pool noodle out of pasta

checkmate

[bronze leaf]

Not all pasta is noodles! Lasagne isn't a noodle, but it is a pasta

[terse vale]

they are different things
when people say tomato like that they just mean tomato slices

[humble gulch]

You could make pasta out of pool noodles, eating them it's optional

[pale wolf]

noodles doesnt mean strings

[bronze leaf]

yeah but you can't call a sheet a noodle

[cloud sinew]

yeah i can

[cloud sinew]

long strips or strings

[pale wolf]

nuh uh

[cloud sinew]

find a noodle that isnt a strip or a string

[pale wolf]

macaroni

🦓

[cloud sinew]

twin

[frank grove]

this kinda feels like "is hotdog a sandwich"

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[cloud sinew]

no

not unless you use 2 buns

[bronze leaf]

Food semantics always bring out the worst in people

[frank grove]

i think macaroni is a noodle thats fair?

[cloud sinew]

how is this a noodle

[pale wolf]

submarine sandwiches

[humble gulch]

But you can make a sandwich out of a whole loaf of bread, those aren't two buns

[bronze leaf]

These are flat strips

[cloud sinew]

what

[bronze leaf]

Only if you stick a feather in your cap

[serene forge]

i asked them

[harsh relic]

john

[frank grove]

are sub sandwiches not sandwiches?

[pale wolf]

to me a sandwich needs to have leavened bread, some sort of filling that is contained by the bread and is able to be lifted by it and eaten by hand, and it also needs to +5 chips for every club card drawn

[humble gulch]

Hot dogs are definitely sandwiches

[bronze leaf]

To me a sandwich has to be tasty

[pale wolf]

hot dogs are definitely sausages

[cloud sinew]

so theres no such thing as a bad sandwich to you

[humble gulch]

Pizzas are sandwiches if you're hungry enough

[pale wolf]

when you fold the pizza it becomes sandwichlike

sandwichlite, i should say

[cloud sinew]

so stuffed crust pizza is a sandwich

[humble gulch]

Are dumplings a sandwich?

[bronze leaf]

Correct. If it tastes bad it isn't a sandwich, as I am ontologically correct about all things.

[frank grove]

now we're getting places

[pale wolf]

pizzas themselves are a sort of shareable open face sandwich

[humble gulch]

Quesadillas are grilled cheese with corn bread

[pale wolf]

or not shareable if you're me when i was 16

[bronze leaf]

Or me when I'm 31

[hearty tusk]

sushi is a sandwich but yall aint ready for me defendin that shi

[pale wolf]

rice isnt bread

next

[hearty tusk]

didnt say that

[pale wolf]

yes you did

[hearty tusk]

i didnt say the rice is the bread

[humble gulch]

Is there rice bread?

[bronze leaf]

Sushi is bread, actually

[pale wolf]

whats the bread

[humble gulch]

You could technically make a sushi sandwich with rice bread

[hearty tusk]

the chopsticks

[bronze leaf]

Bread

[hearty tusk]

breb

[pale wolf]

sushi is a sandwich because i put it between 2 slices of bread when i eat it

[humble gulch]

If anything with carbs were considered bread, what's the craziest thing that would be a sandwich

[hearty tusk]

you

[humble gulch]

Asides from that

[pale wolf]

thats what i was gonna say too

[hearty tusk]

too late

open the door

[humble gulch]

Something something suicide spaghetti

[bronze leaf]

Earth

[frank grove]

honeycomb is a sandwich ?

[humble gulch]

I mean, wax isn't bread

[hearty tusk]

nah

[frank grove]

wax is starchy right?

i think

[pale wolf]

90 stickers/21 runs is 4.29 stickers per run
i wanna keep that up

[hearty tusk]

i think wax is actually waxy but idk

[humble gulch]

It's fats

[frank grove]

ok ok

[humble gulch]

Is soup a sandwich

[hearty tusk]

yes

is cereal soup

[frank grove]

sometimes i guess

[humble gulch]

Well, I guess

Microwaved cereal

[hearty tusk]

microwaved? nah, i just burn the milk

vaporised cereal

[humble gulch]

I wanna try microwaved cereal

[hearty tusk]

ever tried cereal

but instead of milk

ya know what let me shut the fuck up and go to sleep

good night

[humble gulch]

🐑

[rain adder]

ummm…

[ornate pecan]

Question, is seed money just useless on green deck?

[hearty tusk]

yes

[fading dome]

@pale wolf is egg a scaling joker?

[pale wolf]

I think its low on the spectrum of scaling jokers

but yea

[fading dome]

god the "spectrum of scaling jokers"

that's such a good way of putting it

[frank grove]

whats lowest on the spectrum of scaling jokers?

[pale wolf]

maybe blue

[frank grove]

blue/gift maybe?

[fading dome]

invisible joker, arguably

[frank grove]

oooh

yeah

[pale wolf]

haha yea loyalty card

[humble gulch]

Definitely not gift

I think gift it's higher than egg...

[fading dome]

aren't egg/gift at the same height

[frank grove]

egg at least scales its own number fast, gift does it all

[pale wolf]

it depends on if hiker is as much of a scaler as wee

[fading dome]

...

I think they're different

[pale wolf]

self-scaling vs scaling outwardly

[fading dome]

okay but gift card also does self-scaling

[pale wolf]

true, at the same time

[frank grove]

yeah

[pale wolf]

but does scaling other things make it more or less of a scaler

[fading dome]

Hiker is less of a "pure" scaler imo

I think that a pure scaler is a joker that goes "This joker gives X. Increases (decreases?) by Y when Z"

[pale wolf]

seems straightforward

[fading dome]

sure but that doesn't address anything in the gray area of the joker scaling spectrum

[frank grove]

Yeah middle scaling spectrum is things like nova/bull ?