🕹・game-discussion

[ancient gyro]

blue
square
runner

[manic vault]

haven't seen either of them 😭

[versed sable]

obelisk joker

tbh

[rustic haven]

worst time to hit the wheel

[versed sable]

don't be spinning wheels
sob

[devout wasp]

yea there's sense to that. still though, i'd want to do a lot of testing with such a nerf to see what it does to the texture of the rest of the game

[cloud sinew]

This would be a lobotomy nerf, but a buff to most other things and would enable pivots a lot more often

[rustic haven]

im not son im sayin the boss

[knotty zodiac]

like you mentioned earlier, it probably makes spectral packs much less appealing

[earnest flame]

I do think it would be a good change for it

[ruby mulch]

is this terrible for ante 4 gs checkered

[patent sail]

what if only hands that have been played this run so its more controllable (might be a dumb suggestion dont kill me)

[hearty tusk]

whats the chance(with showman) of finding 4 souls in a mega spectral?

[ancient gyro]

guaranteed to upgrade the hand you're not playing 🗣️

[cloud sinew]

(3/1000)^5

[patent sail]

aka what it does already

[versed sable]

(0.003) ^ 5 ?

yeah

[cloud sinew]

oh, 4?

[devout wasp]

perhaps, but there's also the knock-on effects of less-available or less-desirable deck fixing. hanged man stonks up, trading card stonks up...

[knotty zodiac]

it always upgrades straight flush

[earnest flame]

That would just push you for pairs all the time every time just for the chance you get spaceman

[hollow moss]

If only😭

But ah well at this point I'll take it

[hearty tusk]

only 4

[patent sail]

well i guess yeahh makes sense

[versed sable]

-# i'm too bad at math for this :3

[patent sail]

so what if space joker triggered not on high card sometimes

that would be insane

[hearty tusk]

8.10000000E−11

[patent sail]

not even that

what if space joker triggered

[knotty zodiac]

hot take- space joker is fine?

[versed sable]

lmao-
"1/8 chance to upgrade played hand, + 1/8 for every card in played hand"

[patent sail]

he is funny ill give him that

[ancient gyro]

space is fine, we're just brewing another obbylicks joker

[earnest flame]

Space joker is only fine if you spam billion pairs or hc, aka something that should be fixed and not encouraged

[versed sable]

space is good

for what it does

which is not conducive to big hands

[earnest flame]

Its so bad if you play big hands

[knotty zodiac]

okay, maybe something like 1 in 2 on last played hand. it does need some separation from blue seals somehow

[ancient gyro]

space happens to be convenient in the current meta

[cloud sinew]

1 in 2.5 billion

[patent sail]

space happens to trigger sometimes

[cloud sinew]

i think it reinforces lobotomy too much

[dawn summit]

space only triggers on econ hands

[hearty tusk]

i got this lol

[patent sail]

isnt there a screenshot of showman and 4 souls in one pack?

i swear ive seen one

[cloud sinew]

how did you calculate that

[hearty tusk]

you said 0.003, so i put in 0.003

its not 0.003, is it

[knotty zodiac]

there are so many paircoded jokers. i dont think its possible to adjust them all

[patent sail]

0.3% aka 0.003/1

[knotty zodiac]

we might need to introduce new ones

[cloud sinew]

0.003 is 0.3%

[hearty tusk]

and its gotta only be to ^4 since, well, 4 cards in mega spec

[patent sail]

multiply by 100 to get the percentage

[ruby mulch]

is marble joker as a first joker good long term value

[cloud sinew]

there isnt just one way of it happening though

[pale wolf]

whats the chance of procing space joker while bloodstone gives 4/15 procs and you get a lucky proc on the

p

[patent sail]

god no whats stones gonna do

unless stone joker value but why needs that

[hearty tusk]

well, the way i supposed it would happend is with showman

[ruby mulch]

and hologram

[patent sail]

not immediately

[cloud sinew]

im saying there isnt only one way of there being 4 souls in 5 cards

[patent sail]

its not retroactive

[ruby mulch]

hologram isnt ever immediate

[hearty tusk]

ah

[patent sail]

yup thats why marble as first joker is eh i think

[dawn summit]

taking a premature marble for a future potential hologram is optimal

[patent sail]

i would not take him befor hologram

if i have holo sure yea

[knotty zodiac]

marble is an okay safety net for not finding chip source

[heavy heron]

yeah never

[cloud sinew]

there are 5 ways of getting 4 souls in 5 cards, so you multiply the odds by 5

[heavy heron]

terrible idea

[hearty tusk]

hmmmm

so you got 1 in 2.5 b

intresting

[cloud sinew]

S = Soul
N = Not Soul
There are 5 unique ways of getting 4 souls in 5 cards.
N,S,S,S,S
S,N,S,S,S
S,S,N,S,S
S,S,S,N,S
S,S,S,S,N

[knotty zodiac]

marble is a (weak) scaling chip joker that keeps working after it's gone

[devout wasp]

open my probability box and there's just combinatorics inside

[ancient gyro]

marble hiker synergy

[cloud sinew]

it's always combinatorics :(

[versed sable]

marble and reset run synergy
trust

[hearty tusk]

btw is the chance for a soul the same on spectrals and arcanas?

[cloud sinew]

per card, yes

[hearty tusk]

hmmm

[devout wasp]

at least in continuous probability you can escape combinatorics. unfortunately you escape right into the dark, horrifying maw of integration

[cloud sinew]

but because spectrals have fewer cards than the same type of arcana pack, spectrals have a worse chance of seeing soul per pack

[serene forge]

yuri

[heavy heron]

can you showman into mega arcana into two souls

[cloud sinew]

yes

[versed sable]

lmao
interesting

[heavy heron]

wild

[cloud sinew]

there are a lot of such seeds

[hearty tusk]

thats what were discussing lol

[cloud sinew]

the highest ive seen is 4 in one

[hearty tusk]

well, not really

[knotty zodiac]

have a hunch this is your new goal

[hearty tusk]

but still, in that context

[heavy heron]

i skip soul cards on the regular

i’m good

[exotic silo]

mega arcana into two souls twice in a row, now that's a rare event

[knotty zodiac]

nurturyy's builds too good to fit in a random leg

[heavy heron]

they only ever show up when i’m already winning

[cloud sinew]

5 souls in a mega/jumbo is ~1 in 4 trillion per pack with showman, so there's very likely not a single seed that has it

[heavy heron]

and i can’t afford to sell a joker

besides i only really want chigoat

[knotty zodiac]

makes sense... you have money to open packs when you're winning

ig not showing up earlier is a bit unlucky

[cloud sinew]

and if there is, it would take a very long time to search for it

[patent sail]

great start!

double nft my beloved

[cloud sinew]

lol

if it's NFTs you should see a huge spike and then a huge pitfall

[heavy heron]

now all you need is money

[tawny bough]

whens it good to do this?

[patent sail]

guess what it does in the triggering animation

only a huge rise actually

[heavy heron]

not when you’re broke! don’t do it

[knotty zodiac]

(not when you have $9 usually)

[heavy heron]

you don’t skip often anyway

[tawny bough]

alr thanks so basically when i have 25 quid

[cloud sinew]

not now because you're broke, but it's usually worth it if you have max interest

[heavy heron]

yeah, basically

[celest cobalt]

we had a good run
but i flew too close to the sun

[knotty zodiac]

hm i think i would take that cola if i saw a saturn skip tho

ante 2

lv7 straight is no joke

[brave goblet]

real

[hearty tusk]

straights or pairs, what we thinkin

[cloud sinew]

straights

abandoned excels at straights, and shortcut makes it even easier

[haughty condor]

straights

[celest cobalt]

i dont know how I made it so far on a random bunch of nothing

[hearty tusk]

straights? yeah, sorry, am bi

[misty mango]

Smiley face abandoned for the aura

[haughty condor]

pairs are for lame-os

[haughty condor]

tuff aura

[celest cobalt]

im tri

[knotty zodiac]

the duo could be used for 2 pair / full house on abandoned

[hearty tusk]

oh yeah am definitely gonna do that

[haughty condor]

aura spectral

[knotty zodiac]

idk kinda torn

shortcut probably better play

[exotic silo]

omg Loyalty Card was actually needed(I skipped a couple times to align it to the boss blinds)

LC and Mr. Bones have acquired their new stickers

[celest cobalt]

can you use mr bones on ante 8

[misty mango]

Loyalty proven…

[haughty condor]

Hi Bus693++²🚫🍐5️⃣🔥

[haughty condor]

yes

he's got big bones

[misty mango]

Violet vessel nuke it’s wonderful

[exotic silo]

Yes, but it won't gain the sticker if you're saved by Mr. Bones

[misty mango]

I know that if nobody got me Mr bones got me

[knotty zodiac]

sup

[split rivet]

damn every time ante 10 im like wow im really cookin this time
then ante 11 comes around and shatters my ego to pieces

[haughty condor]

I hope you've been having a good day

[earnest flame]

Well this has to be some kind of record for me for how small of a deck you can get in ante 1

[knotty zodiac]

u2 cheers

[haughty condor]

yeah ante 11 scales super fast

[celest cobalt]

dang it
so i couldve saved my run if i just kept rerolling for mr bones

[exotic silo]

hmm Trio and Showman are left on this page

[knotty zodiac]

showman the goat

[haughty condor]

trio shouldn't be too difficult

[celest cobalt]

i can do 40 without even beginning

[earnest flame]

35 card deck at ante 1 boss

[exotic silo]

I have failed a few times now, but yeah once it's online, it will be super easy

[weary whale]

This game hates me

Three times in a row on Purple Stake red deck I got Violet Vessel in Ante 8

Each time I would’ve had enough chips to win without it

[misty mango]

Luchador too

[haughty condor]

just pretend you're playing on painted deck except instead of +2 hand size you get x3 mult if you play full house or something

[misty mango]

I love money tree on gold stake because when I take it to ante 8 I have 100+ gold across 3 shops to just reroll my bad decisions away

[knotty zodiac]

ya purp is a crazy step up, gotta learn to build for 1.2

[haughty condor]

does luchador even disable The Violent Violet Vessel of Vasectomies

[misty mango]

Yes

[cloud sinew]

yes

[haughty condor]

wow I didn't know that

[misty mango]

But it’s weaker than bones technically

[celest cobalt]

yea but i wasnt getting them i guess

[misty mango]

or wait am I wrong about that

[cloud sinew]

vessel being disabled is /3, bones is an effective /4 score needed

so youre right

[haughty condor]

tung

[knotty zodiac]

sten

[misty mango]

Wasn’t sure if I remembered vessel scaling ty

[haughty condor]

cube

[serene forge]

I <3 yuri

[haughty condor]

tungsten joker steel cards get destroyed on play gain xmult

[haughty condor]

cool

Hi very gay lesbian hornet

[versed sable]

starter pack

[vale shale]

Let's do something different.
Helo gamers. 1 take gold stake run any deck. Which deck are we thinking bout.
Another person gives me a challenge with that specific deck.

[ancient gyro]

black

pairless

[tawny bough]

ah ggs

[ancient gyro]

as in no pairs played, no mercuries, no black holes

[misty mango]

Everything on the 1/2 space joker

[knotty zodiac]

your final hand has to be different for each boss blind

is this doable..?

[manic vault]

every hand must be at least 3oak

[ruby mulch]

econ perkeo

[modest mist]

Second win today! This time, it's my first ever run of Ghost Deck!

[cloud sinew]

Erratic

[vale shale]

That's

[misty mango]

I’d say yes since you could get other hands to score first

[vale shale]

Kinda hard

Ok.

[modest mist]

I'm getting better frfr

[tawny bough]

naneinf run do i take both skips lol

[ancient gyro]

pairless is more doable

[misty mango]

You also have the secret 5card hands to work with

[vale shale]

Is it like once I've done pair I can't use it again?

[livid scroll]

you can't play hands you've never played before

[earnest flame]

End of ante 2 deck fixing situation

[ruby mulch]

i have so much soul luck today last run i got a yorick and the round RIGHT AFTER i get a yorick AND perkeo

[misty mango]

As the winning hand of a boss blind no

[tawny bough]

thoughts

[knotty zodiac]

that was the idea but i think it's too hard

[cloud sinew]

so youre limited to 12 unique hands to defeat the boss

[vale shale]

So it's just it has to be not the last played winning hand of the bss

[tawny bough]

oh wait no i just take the investment tag ignore this

[vale shale]

Which is actually really hard

[ancient gyro]

poker nuzlocke

[vale shale]

So black deck and

[misty mango]

Just think of hands that you don’t want to kill a boss with

[knotty zodiac]

how about boss blind last played hand cannot be the last played hand of small blind / big blind for that ante..?

[vale shale]

Last winning hand to a bass can't be what I beat the next boss with

[hearty tusk]

on God FUCK SPACE JOKER

[livid scroll]

or, since i think it would fit your name, how about you have to skip every blind possible

[ancient gyro]

I thought you took first replies 🥀

[misty mango]

Space joker was the imposter

[vale shale]

Another person

I specified it

[ancient gyro]

wh

I have bipolar syndrome

[knotty zodiac]

so ig you can alternate ya

[vale shale]

It has to be first replies

[vale shale]

So I can't do this

That's fun doe

[versed sable]

the mobile experience

[vale shale]

Either way it might be lost ifI don't get like pair and3oak

[livid scroll]

main menu button synergy

[knotty zodiac]

i feel like it might be pair/2 pair

[tawny bough]

do i wanna make an extra purple seel here?

[earnest flame]

End of ante 3, we almost checkered on ghost

[tawny bough]

or wait for the red seel

[exotic silo]

Yo, Rick!

[exotic silo]

Devious Joker and Yorick got their new sticker

[tawny bough]

aint no way thats base balatro

[hearty tusk]

lord have mercy am gonna bust

[versed sable]

"choose two" :(

[exotic silo]

now have both hit Chicot(unironically busted)

[tawny bough]

litterally xd

[raven raven]

best joker ever showman

[tawny bough]

would be INSANELY op exept u have to spend 300 quid a round for +1 hand size so would need insane econ in ante 1 xd

[ruby mulch]

got gold on ghost and checkered now so time for gold on anaglyph (the best deck)

[raven raven]

best deck is red

[lunar zealot]

whichever two you choose will be the same legendaries either way

[tawny bough]

do i make an extra purple or wait for the red seal?

[cloud sinew]

it's $220 per ante on average iirc

[tawny bough]

ah not as bad

[cloud sinew]

but still very expensive

[tawny bough]

but yeah if both hit chicot then it would be 100% a naneinf seed

[cloud sinew]

i'm not sure it would be worth it even 1% of the time to take paintbrush for $220 😭

[icy hollow]

Holy cert balling

[cloud sinew]

i would make another purple seal

[livid scroll]

certified certificate

[tawny bough]

people spend like 3k looking for bean on ante 8,16,24,32 just to get a possibilty for like +5 hand size and with 2chicot u are guarunteed +8 hand size for same price but meh

[cloud sinew]

you have hack so you want more enhancements and deckfixing to be able to play 5-2 ranks and score well with them

[waxen quartz]

it's only ante 2 on white stake plasma 🙂 no need to sweat much

[vale shale]

So uh wait I think I found a loophole but it actually isn't a loophole

[tawny bough]

interesting

[knotty zodiac]

court of bus is hearing your case

[earnest flame]

Never mind we went back in time and made our deck even smaller, end of ante 3

[vale shale]

I didn't "technically beat the boss blind with the final hand" but I used it to beat the boss blind

Is that fine

[exotic silo]

so I did a manual recounting of my stickers, I have 116 holy shit, C++ is way closer than I thought

[vale shale]

Because I beat last boss with full house

[cloud sinew]

you need to do it like hanging chad's unlock

[vale shale]

But I opted to do full house first hand but it didn't win the blind

[cloud sinew]

"beat the boss blind with high card" means the last hand against it had to be a high card

[serene forge]

straight (10)

[tawny bough]

should i take this or skip

[knotty zodiac]

contributed a majority of the score satisfies the spirit i think

[exotic silo]

funnily enough, Page 1 is missing the most stickers out of anything else

[serene forge]

gg

[cloud sinew]

I think it should be that the final hand against each boss blind has to be a unique hand every time

[serene forge]

red seal even better than purple seal 😎

[tawny bough]

cert really cooking today

[knotty zodiac]

basically impossible without obby..?

[livid scroll]

it's the filler jokers page

[vale shale]

Well fuck

[livid scroll]

except for jimbo

[cloud sinew]

how?

[exotic silo]

but also, not one page is fully stickered

[knotty zodiac]

you mean unique from other hands played for that boss? or unique final between bosses?

[serene forge]

average photo L

[livid scroll]

yeah every page has at least 1 mid joker

[cloud sinew]

unique final hand between bosses

so if you beat A1 with high card you cant beat any other boss with high card

[exotic silo]

more just annoying to sticker than being bad tbh

like the food jokers

[green dragon]

What's the dumbest challenge you set yourself up to? No I don't mean the official ones. What have you decided to challenge yourself with

[knotty zodiac]

ya that was the original idea

[viral raft]

Showman used to be named "Ring Master"????

someone can confirm it?

[cloud sinew]

that's the internal name, and it used to be called that

[pale wolf]

yea it was

[livid scroll]

yeah also that

[pale wolf]

for some reason thunk didnt like the name

[icy hollow]

Didnt you see? Search for red over blue seal fr... the best seal

[livid scroll]

or jokers like invisible or cola

[viral raft]

sounds like garbage, no wonder why

[pale wolf]

he said it was about the word master but thats
a stretch to me

[cloud sinew]

canio is called caino, seltzer is called selzer

[pale wolf]

??

explain why it sounds like garbage

[icy hollow]

Master

Ring

[cloud sinew]

how many things start with "The" in balatro

[icy hollow]

Clunky

[pale wolf]

including tarots, a bunch

[tawny bough]

jesus 10 certs and not a single one is red seal

[pale wolf]

oh and blinds

[stone shell]

oops more pairslop + i feel like there should be an achievement for this but idk

[viral raft]

yeah i saw thoses ones, Canio actually is still named "Caino" in the steam info

fun trivia

[pale wolf]

what lmfao

[tawny bough]

ahh i think its ggs to burnt maybe

[stone shell]

+60 erosion nice

[icy hollow]

Sound clunky

[stone shell]

dont mind the fact i have cloud 9 and erosion

[pale wolf]

that makes no sense

[icy hollow]

Clunky sounding name

[pale wolf]

yeah just keep repeating yourself that'll definitely get your point across

[icy hollow]

Name gives clunky feel. Ring clunky.

[pale wolf]

never mind I'm just going to block you forever

[icy hollow]

I think it feels clunky personally

[pale wolf]

no value

[icy hollow]

🥀

[stone shell]

surely this wont bite me back from thinking im good enough to do this right

[livid scroll]

you just avoid getting rid of 9s, nothing too unusual

[tawny bough]

who we killing here reserved or burnt?

[stone shell]

its only white stake if i lose this idk what to say

[echo sphinx]

hubris

[stone shell]

i gutted my erosion value by adding 9s via standard packs

[cloud sinew]

on the playbalatro website, the balatro header is called ballatro_header.jpg,
there's a comment where everything is spelled as everyting,
the spade emoji is blatrospade

[tawny bough]

fuck yeah ggs cert

[viral raft]

because it sounds like a really powerful joker, imagine saying "the worst joker in the game is Ring Master" sounds weird to me that a name so cool is added to a joker that barely is useful

[viral raft]

Blatrospade 🗣️ 🔥

[pale wolf]

thats literally just what the head guy of a circus is called

[cloud sinew]

[livid scroll]

well, no one ever reaches the top without falling at least once

[cloud sinew]

maybe you wouldnt, but me personally

I never fall

[stone shell]

three pair

[viral raft]

yeah but i like Showman more than Ring Master because sound less cool tbh

[stone shell]

anyway what do i do for discards wtf

[livid scroll]

how humble

[cloud sinew]

u really drew 3 pairs and 2 of each suit ???

[viral raft]

showman should be named Shitman ngl

[waxen quartz]

pray for bean or 5 immolates. cleaning up that deck will suck

[cloud sinew]

discard 99-42

[tawny bough]

yeah i need them bad

deck fixing is gonna be terrible

[cloud sinew]

what are you going for

[tawny bough]

naneinf again

[cloud sinew]

oh then youre fine

[earnest flame]

Hmm should I take this

[willow frost]

whats your deck like

[stone shell]

the 9s wouldve gotten me a full house earlier but that works 🙃

[willow frost]

im pretty sure just one trading card will save you

[cloud sinew]

you can easily cut/convert those in the time you have in endless

[tawny bough]

damn sixth sense

[cloud sinew]

you had no way of knowing that without foresight

the 9s score less, and the suits didnt make a difference, so you discrd the 9s and 42

[earnest flame]

Ante 6 btw, we strushing now

[stone shell]

put it on a six to retrigger sixth sense trust

[tawny bough]

huge

[tawny bough]

that does not work sonion

[stoic sand]

how long does it take you all to beat an 8 ante run?

[stone shell]

hear me out fr

[haughty condor]

hjhhhhh

[viral raft]

sometimes i found funny how sometimes the game is coded adding stuff in between, like dude why is Blue seal between Black and Blue stickers 😭

[haughty condor]

invincible fool

[stoic sand]

i feel like i'm way too slow

[willow frost]

its not timed dw about that

how long does it usually take you

[livid scroll]

alphabetical order

[stoic sand]

about half an hour to an hour

[tawny bough]

17 seconds

[willow frost]

thats good

[stoic sand]

per run that is

[cloud sinew]

because alphabetical

[viral raft]

ohhh makes sense

[stoic sand]

i'm just wondering what the average here is because it takes me like a day to finish a deck

[waxen quartz]

that's not bad

[willow frost]

thats sick lol

[viral raft]

for a moment i thought local thunk just casually added ideas while coding the game

[waxen quartz]

I'd say 15-30min for white stake, double for a gold

[viral raft]

like brainstorms

[icy hollow]

From white stake up to gold? Thats quite good then

[stone shell]

okay so the buffoon pack didnt have any scoring jokers (chad doesnt count for me this early so i just chose rebate), do i take lovers or venus to get through big blind

[stoic sand]

that's cool

thx guys

[icy hollow]

Tho dpeends how long ur axtively spending playing ig

24 hours not good...

[stoic sand]

i work overnight security so i pretty much spend my whole shift playing this on my steam deck lol

[willow frost]

24 hours of anything isnt good yeah lol

lmao

[pale wolf]

24 hours of play time for a single run is hilarious to think about

[stone shell]

i breathe for 24 hours a day is that bad? 😔

[viral raft]

tbh it would be amazing a daily run in Balatro

[icy hollow]

Average perkeo endless run 🥀

[stoic sand]

every single time i've gotten a legendary so far i lost

sometimes in the next round

[ancient gyro]

i got sunburnt on the first day of my vaca it's so over

[versed sable]

[icy hollow]

Its the sun telling u to stay inside and grind more balatro 🗣️

[livid scroll]

will you start upgrading every first discarded hand by 1?

[ancient gyro]

it's been over a week

[stone shell]

chat is this how to pairslop idk how to play im new

[ancient gyro]

my inactivity streak will do wonders

[tawny bough]

just need retcon and then get bean on ante 8 and the runs set

xd

[earnest flame]

that is a big just

[tawny bough]

xdd

[stone shell]

man who the hell takes rocks from packs this is probably a bad pickup

[tawny bough]

surely i get it

[tawny bough]

honestly

[stone shell]

it was canio so basically 10 dollars

[viral raft]

no worry, the jokers who summon are 10$ sell value, if the joker isn't named "Trib", just sell it!

[livid scroll]

what if it's called triboulet, do i sell it anyways

[viral raft]

keep it tho

is Trib's twin

[livid scroll]

who's trib

[stone shell]

close enough to a trib ig idk

[livid scroll]

is it a short of mail-in rebate

[viral raft]

yeah, sell Canio and take Photo, you can wait until Hanging chad, that's is a really op combo!

[ruby mulch]

THIS ISNT FAIR

OMG

ik its black stake

but still

omg

[stone shell]

man surely this 3x mult will do well

[earnest flame]

Who said straight flushes are unreliable

[terse vale]

theres a flush ?

[stone shell]

idk what enhancements are but i think i have enough right

[livid scroll]

the tragic no skips used ending

[viral raft]

tbh why the hell are you playing without Xmult

[tawny bough]

huge strength

[ruby mulch]

because im using chips like YOU said

and there wasnt any xmult

[viral raft]

huh?

[ruby mulch]

like

jokers

[cloud sinew]

its white stake plasma

[livid scroll]

i think onyx gives mult

[viral raft]

send seed later

[cloud sinew]

wait no it isnt

[cloud sinew]

agate doesnt do much for you if youre not going for xmult

[serene forge]

boring

[waxen quartz]

rocks are death targets that don't make rebate sad

[ruby mulch]

agate was my first joker i was expecting to get xmult by ante 8

[cloud sinew]

even just a single glass wouldve made a world of difference because you have chad and dusk

[viral raft]

yeah, any way of Xmult would actually help here

specially 1 glass

[stone shell]

man pair planets are pretty weak idk if this blue seal is worth taking tbh (/sarc)

[livid scroll]

pivot to 3oak

[viral raft]

tbh...any seal that isn't red si not worth taking, just skip it and wait until a red seal king

[stone shell]

eh but 2 of my jokers only procs on hands with pairs

[viral raft]

then you buy baron, mime and you get naneinf

[stone shell]

would need to like do a huge pivot

[tawny bough]

gg bean?

[livid scroll]

oh right, forgot you had to use exactly 2 cards for them to work

[stone shell]

ragebait and sarcasm asides wow what a useful cryptid

maybe i can dupe the kings for more heads to kill but what good is that without an executioner

[viral raft]

actually yeah, cryptid on kings then kill them

[livid scroll]

copy 2 for a chance of weembo

[waxen quartz]

ya this is naninf, calling it now

[cloud sinew]

i can search ~1 million seeds a second with this filter, so it would take me around 27 days to search every single seed 😭

[stone shell]

simul double glass break with canio

[tawny bough]

ggs dna? or keep dna?

[waxen quartz]

ya that's why pifreak can find the things. he gets about 50M/sec

[cloud sinew]

for naneinf? keep DNA

[cloud sinew]

it depends on the filter of course

if i just wrote a basic a1 voucher search i can get 12M

[tawny bough]

alr shud i kill anything else for oops or nah? got lvl 40 high card btw

[stone shell]

never using another tarot again after this cuz my god are these super rare for no reason

[waxen quartz]

any planet above 20 is a waste of a click

[misty mango]

I don’t get it

[tawny bough]

its the burnt jonkler

• brainstorm

[waxen quartz]

done its job, get something better. hopefully econ

[tawny bough]

alr

[stone shell]

nevermind gold card on a blueseal 🙃

[tawny bough]

i got 1 reroll chance on the boss shud i take the specticle bean xd

[cloud sinew]

you're only really going to save yourself e1 worth of scaling by keeping burnt joker

[cloud sinew]

yes

[tawny bough]

who dies

[cloud sinew]

Oops

[waxen quartz]

bean is take anyway. seeing another discard of cards is great

[tawny bough]

idk cuz i have chad+lucky cards

[cloud sinew]

rebate better

[tawny bough]

alr

HHAHAHAHW EF EG9E 9FPwp awe aweb abp

[cloud sinew]

if you get crimson, you can force bean hit every 2 hands by selling everything but bean and 1 other joker

[tawny bough]

AHHHHH

[cloud sinew]

but

[waxen quartz]

there's only so many things worth keeping in the air at a time. if it's dice + parking or bus card, ok...

[cloud sinew]

you should only do it if you know you can survive without chad

[tawny bough]

idk if i can do that lol i can maybe kill chad+rebate or smth?

[cloud sinew]

but i think youll be fine

[waxen quartz]

and not having lucky card eliminates a joker

[cloud sinew]

selling everything apart from bean and brainstorm is probably the best move

[waxen quartz]

it's white stake. you can get 200k

[tawny bough]

alr

[earnest flame]

you 100% sell everything else except brainstorm and bean

[cloud sinew]

+10 handsize is huge

[tawny bough]

this is actually mad man cant believe this

[cloud sinew]

it enables 2 more ectos than you would otherwise be able to take

[earnest flame]

15 if lucky

[cloud sinew]

no

[earnest flame]

oh right

[cloud sinew]

the last hand can't be used for handsize exploit

[tawny bough]

well i need scoring bad next round now lol

[earnest flame]

I thought u would get one more if it started with bean

[tawny bough]

oops almost won in 1 hand

[cloud sinew]

whoopsie

that's a good sign for the next couple antes though

[tawny bough]

yeah didnt realise the power of having +10 hand size lol

ooo

[waxen quartz]

4 hands of 1600mult is about 2mill? fine for next ante

[tawny bough]

ante 8 bean bug is criminal

[median grove]

square joker or holo for a naneinf attempt?

on plasma deck ante 1

[tawny bough]

holo

but dont take my word for it

FAHHH

[earnest flame]

to make holo work you have to bloat your deck and you want your deck to get fixed asap, also xmult is not good at first on plasma

[stone shell]

man i couldnt even set up my biggest hand because canio got too strong

[earnest flame]

square 100%

[tawny bough]

oh true mb

was kinda just thinking of the fact u have to use alot of hands for squimb

but squimbo better

[earnest flame]

square is not optimal either

[humble gulch]

Why is it white stake

[waxen quartz]

white stake you don't need it. gold stake, take square for survival

[stone shell]

wanna get my all challenges achievement that i didnt get on my original account due to me being a dunce

[tawny bough]

alr so what do i do here xd everything but brainstorm?

[humble gulch]

Black deck is certainly a choice...

[tawny bough]

or keep gold cuz its just insane econ rn

[stone shell]

i thought it was 5 unique decks so i just did first 5 decks 🙃

[exotic silo]

The type of shit I had to do for Gluttonous Joker sticker

[stone shell]

*to unlock challenges

[waxen quartz]

sell, save scum if needed

[stoic sand]

need 2 more legendary jokers to complete my collection

[waxen quartz]

try to keep ticket if possible

[stoic sand]

does getting the last 2 take long?

i seem to be getting duplicates recently

[tawny bough]

huge ecto holy

[median grove]

okay ty

[full rune]

Liquidation sucks with ceremoniall dagger

[knotty zodiac]

about 1 in 7 runs spawn a pack with a soul, so you'll get there

[tawny bough]

how is this run real lol

[stoic sand]

that's a good number, cheers dude

[tawny bough]

going well

need scoring bad tho xd

[knotty zodiac]

ive reached the "doing dumb things on white stake" phase

[waxen quartz]

$ = you'll find it. it's white stake

[tawny bough]

burger

sadly its a no but ill be seeing her later

[knotty zodiac]

let's try to force a 8 ball run

seems promising

[tawny bough]

HOLY FUCKKKKK I WAS ABOUT TO DIE THIS ROUND ASWELL

this run is un real 😭

[tawdry epoch]

Common wee W

[tawny bough]

oh man i am in awe

[stone shell]

brainstorm/invis or bust ig 🙃

okay dna might help

[hasty onyx]

I was blessed by school computer balatro

[knotty zodiac]

it begins

[tawdry epoch]

(also i appreciate fibonacci alot
more now)

[primal heath]

What's that text on the top?

[tawny bough]

hell yeah

huge gaming

[stone shell]

dang pairslop got hands

[tawny bough]

e!

think hanging chad over rebate maybe?

[stone shell]

oops

[waxen quartz]

how fixed is deck? if not hitting rebate a lot, ya that's fine

[buoyant stratus]

Some interesting jokers you got there

[tawny bough]

lookin like this

[tawny bough]

whys that?

other than swash its pretty standard naneinf jokers

[waxen quartz]

do you win in first hand? things are a little touchy RN probably

[tawny bough]

im scoring e11 and i only need 1.2b rn

so easily win in first hand for a little bit

and thats with just 8 red steels

[waxen quartz]

prob rebate then. maybe chad/ticket later when you can play more than 1 hand or done with dna

[tawny bough]

i was gonna do dna copy with hanging ticket

[waxen quartz]

you still have like 20 handsize...what am I talking about? it'll be cake

[icy turret]

guys can i ask what's the wr for +mult in spare trousers

[waxen quartz]

you get $325 if rebate hits kings...hard to do better than that right now

[tawny bough]

oh damn

alr

so if rebate hits kings shud i just discard all kings exept red steel?

[icy turret]

if you think it's winnable then sure :/

[icy turret]

also

[buoyant stratus]

Wdym

You have two brainstorms and one mir

[tawny bough]

yeah thats pretty standard

no?

[waxen quartz]

you can afford if ecto hits rebate. get deck uniform so you have econ until you play burglar, it's fine

[earnest flame]

Come on im trying to get a 5 badstone build going on here

[pale wolf]

Steel got 254 back in 2024

according to the WR sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1RH7gxp0b6-XiC63Obcsnoo_1eF1LZerKYpiCmESiWDk/htmlview?pli=1

"updated" isnt accurate btw

[icy turret]

well guess I am restarting either in white stake or gold stake (only the red deck)

i get 104 in GREEN stake 😔

[tawny bough]

1k!! bean bug ante 16 is gonna be crazy

[pale wolf]

wdym by restarting

[icy turret]

didn't read the whole manual

oof

that one was all stakes mb

[tawny bough]

i reckon this has ante 39 potential maybe

[versed sable]

a lot of runs do

[icy turret]

you can just ignore that i didn't read all

[stone shell]

i pivoted out of pairslop into high card deluxe 🙃

[icy turret]

how do ppl even getting +254 just how (maybe just 1)

non-endless 😔

[stone shell]

this is just that megamind under new management meme

also my goat space joker kept proccing every dna hand which enabled the pivot

he didnt throw he just saw a vision many others would miss

[knotty zodiac]

its okay i never wanted 8 ball to proc anyways

[waxen quartz]

burglar and limit scoring on it somehow? does sound really tricky

[icy turret]

burglar then yes, limit scoring then idk

like i think i picked the telescope 💀

[waxen quartz]

wouldn't level the hand. maybe really low cards?

[pale wolf]

technically there isn't a set seed non endless spare trousers record on the sheet

[icy turret]

would be funny if someone found a +300 spare trousers set seed

[pale wolf]

I mean I would assume just routing the same seed Steel did his unseeded record on would yield a better result

[viral raft]

3.3k saw this and thought: "so true 🤣🤣🤣"

[tawny bough]

huge

[pale wolf]

winner

[icy turret]

what was that seed

[pale wolf]

idk

[tawny bough]

FUCKK

JUST ROLLED PAST AN INVIS

[lament frigate]

My Steam kept giving cloud errors AGAIN

[tawny bough]

oh man

that invis couldve been absolutely massive

it happens

[split rivet]

I had that today

[tawny bough]

that makes up for it hell yeah

dunno who to kill

might be gold

yeah its golden

[waxen quartz]

what else do you even search for? oh petro https://miaklwalker.github.io/Blueprint/?seed=AHKRIING&deck=Red+Deck&antes=8&stake=White+Stake

[icy turret]

@pale wolf abandoned green stake, +104 mult for trousers i guess
there was like a hieroglyph somewhere but i was unsure if three does sent the belt to the boss
cautionary tale, there was absolutely zero burglar
also, sorry for ping

[pale wolf]

idk why you pinged me anyways lol

[icy turret]

xd

just wanna get the seed out

just like

[pale wolf]

late petro specifically

[icy turret]

i see the +104 trousers funny

[pale wolf]

because any earlier than a6 heiro will overall lose hands

[waxen quartz]

https://miaklwalker.github.io/Blueprint/?seed=UNXQTVL4&deck=Red+Deck&antes=8&stake=White+Stake

[tawny bough]

oh man i love balatro

abt to get ante 16 bean bug hell yeah

yipeee

oh shoot its ante 15 xd

do i sell him and get him back on ante 16

imma risk it for the extra hand size ngl

[tawny bough]

ah yes 2k rare jonkler

[hidden lance]

nice

[waxen quartz]

ok trousers first pack. burg card 3 ante 2. bp card ~11 ante 2. heiro ante 3, petro in 7 https://miaklwalker.github.io/Blueprint/?seed=IB1DQOHC&deck=Red+Deck&antes=8&stake=White+Stake

from this (~10M seeds to find)

[tawny bough]

oh fuck bean nows not the time to not show up 😭

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[tawny bough]

fuck i shouldve kept the damn bean from before 😭

greeds evil

[pale wolf]

improvement?

[serene forge]

here, win

[pale wolf]

challenge deck lookin

[knotty zodiac]

let's see what the comments have to say

[silk thorn]

trousers my beloved

[knotty zodiac]

just deckfix, then he's good. trust

[waxen quartz]

well higher stakes are one of high roll, slop or deckfix

[cloud sinew]

"x3.38 is fine" and it requires you to hold 3 kings in hand

which doesnt do much unless you have a pretty significant hand level

[knotty zodiac]

who needs joker mult when you have PHOTOCHAD

[cloud sinew]

photochad is one of the few niches where baron actually does something

but it's still incredibly boss vulnerable

[knotty zodiac]

phototribchad baronmime VS

VS

VS thesuitbossthatallyourkingsareinbcyoucopiedthesameking

[viral raft]

"X3.38 is no joke" same people who buy hanging chad because they know that Photograph alone is garbage

[knotty zodiac]

i dont think they all know that photograph alone is garbage

[cloud sinew]

vs needle, vs water, vs hook

[viral raft]

true, they're still don't understanding how the joker/scoring order works at all

[pale wolf]

this is wack

[viral raft]

X2 scored is way worse that 2x

because surprise surprise the current "meta" is scaling jokers

so your scoring X2 mult joker is completly useless on thoses builds

[cloud sinew]

the reason why photochad bypasses that is because a single mercury a round equates to +8 end scaling per round

[pale wolf]

this is why thunk shouldve made fortnite instead of balatro; better balancing

[cloud sinew]

this is why thunk made fortnite

[digital pewter]

when are we getting no build mode in balatro

[viral raft]

yeah, and even that isn't that good because you easily get countered and also is a 2 joker slot in total, kinda the same logic with Bloodstone+dice, nice but theres way better options in 2 joker slots

[cloud sinew]

photochad works well if you prepare for plant

and leaf

[knotty zodiac]

but then whats the baron doing

[digital pewter]

we execute him

[knotty zodiac]

viva la revolucion

[stark acorn]

Baron when:

[cloud sinew]

baron doesnt need to do anything against plant necessarily, plant is the main killer so you can just focus on plant defense and then baron makes sure you score enough ontop of that for the rest of the run

[digital pewter]

we're going back in time to put barons on the menu

[viral raft]

meh, Photograph just waste time tbh, not because the combo is bad, is because Hanging chad does all that alone most of the time

[cloud sinew]

well you need glass

and glass breaks

[pale wolf]

citation needed

[digital pewter]

they oughta make better glass ngl

i need justice for my glass bro

[knotty zodiac]

if you're surviving plant without baron, you can have baron and all the deckfix for... wall and vv ig

[viral raft]

is not only that, Hanging chad had ALOT of sinergies in the game, when i play chad, i can play almost anything and it's going to be good, when i play photograph i'm basically forced to have retriggers or is basically a poor quality X2

[knotty zodiac]

tempered glass voucher

glass doesn't break when played

[viral raft]

Photochad is only when i'm desesperated or i'm on ante 7 and i already know that The plant can't appear on ante 8

[digital pewter]

the concept of vouchers with in-run unlock conditions...

[knotty zodiac]

unlocks when you have a 999+ naneinf win streak

[mental bloom]

I hate Idol

[digital pewter]

ah, well, while that isn't a problem for me, i can see this being a small problem for some

[knotty zodiac]

idol is clutch until it's not

[viral raft]

Idol is bad until you sell it

free money $$$

[knotty zodiac]

idol will always betray you

[mental bloom]

Yes, I've learnt that

[digital pewter]

oh yeah i got today's balatrodle in 4

goated

[mental bloom]

Idol's sole purpose is to get destroyed by Ceremonial Dagger

[rain temple]

investing early in baseball or cloud 9?

[tawny bough]

bean u evil evil joker 😭 couldve gotten a second bean bug

i mean atleast its still naneinf easily

but man if i even got +5 hand size that would be mad

like 3k for bean and he didnt show up damn you

[brave goblet]

blue jonker carry

got confused with the green sticker

holy fuck $94 reroll

[fervent haven]

Was that all in one shop?

[tawny bough]

nah over 3 shops

[fervent haven]

Bad luck

[tawny bough]

yeah man

aghh that sucks

[fervent haven]

How come u don't have a 6th joker?

[celest cobalt]

what to do

[waxen quartz]

immolate

[celest cobalt]

and?

[serene forge]

stop skipping

[fervent haven]

Grim

[waxen quartz]

get back to this later. 200ish? petro and higher scores to go, just taking/copying 2-6s

[celest cobalt]

whyyy

[serene forge]

so you can actually scale your hologram

every round you skip is 0.25x lost on hologram at minimum

[fervent haven]

Skipping is generally bad. A normal ante 8 run should usually only have 3 good skips max tbh.

[serene forge]

holy hell

[waxen quartz]

purple can't hurt? def not ankh unless high value hand and big holo

[serene forge]

yeah i was thinking immolate medium as well

although

[waxen quartz]

bs was an ante 4 surprise, didn't look there

[serene forge]

i don't think it really matters

[fervent haven]

Grim for scaling

[serene forge]

since certificate will also be giving purples

so yeah maybe grim instead

[celest cobalt]

oh thats genius

[fervent haven]

Skipping with boots is a big mistake too. U should be playing every round and saving tons of money

That run looks like a free win if I've ever seen it tho

[waxen quartz]

it's white stake though. prob good enough to skip to end

[fervent haven]

True. I'll sometime skip just if I know I can easily beat ante 8

[waxen quartz]

oh didn't want to clog your thread...don't know when the last time I bothered with idol for naninf things was...if needed I'll take, but the amount of things that last til ante 15...

(if you haven't found baron by then, seed is just cursed)

[tall sapphire]

would you look at the time

[celest cobalt]

yea im not skipping now

[hasty onyx]

Free 3 dollars ❤️❤️

[fervent haven]

Well what ante deck stake are you?

[serene forge]

be happy it wasnt baron

[hasty onyx]

Blue stake ante 3 checkered

[fervent haven]

Could maybe be worth hanging onto for a little just to see

But yeah kind of a lame joker half the time

[hasty onyx]

Theres just so many better ways to get X3

[tall sapphire]

fuck you

i havent seen the plant all day

[celest cobalt]

do I get steel joker
and if yes then what do I replace the rest with

[woven hare]

guys im currently fucked BUT

if i get a trobadour here im kissing someone

i only have 7 hand size

[hasty onyx]

I havent seen a non eternal egg in about a week

[celest cobalt]

help

[serene forge]

skill issue plant doesnt counter photochad

[woven hare]

havent unlocked antimatter by what i think is one blank

[pulsar forge]

yipee

[fervent haven]

Not necessary. I wouldn't do it unless it's at x1.8 or higher

But it would replace sock

[tall sapphire]

yeah it was a skill issue

[celest cobalt]

its at 1.25

[woven hare]

just got a deja vu on a steel king tho

just gotta get that big fat trobadour

or a bean

[fervent haven]

Fs not worth

[celest cobalt]

alright thanks

[woven hare]

guys guess what

i didnt get shit and i wasted all my money so my bull is useless

[versed sable]

average bull

[serene forge]

youre in ante 12 it already was useless

[woven hare]

-# yes lmao and my high's level 5 billion

[serene forge]

did you ecto a ramen

[woven hare]

yes i ectoed a ramen 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[pulsar forge]

hell yeah

[woven hare]

mainly because i didnt think the run would go far and was just tryna get gold stake

but then i wraithed baron

[woven hare]

i was just rolling for a better uncommon

guess what i didnt get

uncommon's right

2 idols in shop though

fuck me

[hasty onyx]

Did yall struggle with purple stake when first doing it

[glass creek]

I forgot

[median grove]

is castle good for a naneinf attempt?

[serene forge]

no

[median grove]

or does it scale too slowly

[lost vault]

i dont thunk so

[median grove]

on plasma white decck

okay thanks

[lost vault]

lol

sorry thats rude

[pale wolf]

you aren't getting naneinf with anything that starts with a +

[lost vault]

castle isnt gonna do shit for naneinf

[hasty onyx]

What would castle contribute to naneinf

[pale wolf]

maybe itll manage to reduce your required cards in hand by 1 king

[lost vault]

it wont

not on plasma

[long zodiac]

Pairslop haters, avert your eyes

[woven hare]

no but i was stuck on orange for like a week when i first played because of a combination of luck and dumbassery

[woven hare]

slyslop

[long zodiac]

yeah i definitely didn't get my square joker to almost 250 chips by my eventual ante 10 death

definitely not

[cloud sinew]

FBK5UPU8.
negative trousers first buffoon
blueprint a3, 16 cards deep
brainstorm a4, 5 cards deep
burglar a5, 27 cards deep

i think painted would be better than blue for this as higher consistency per hand > just 1 more hand

[median grove]

is riff raff better than bull?

for naneinf attempt?

or is bull better because it gives chips

[cloud sinew]

bull is good for survival while you get baron/mime set up

[median grove]

but i could get photochad with riff raff

[cloud sinew]

i would take both though, you can just sell whatever riff raff gives you

[median grove]

which i feel like is better long term

[woven hare]

riff raff is always better than bull

[median grove]

not super long term, but long term before baron mime

[woven hare]

stone joker is always better than bull

[median grove]

like antes 8-11

[woven hare]

sly joker is always better than bull

[azure copper]

is this sad

[woven hare]

the greed consumes

[azure copper]

2 blueprint and a photochad

[long zodiac]

Also Grimbo is overhated imo

[woven hare]

wait how do you lose with that against fih

[azure copper]

he is too good...

[woven hare]

fih scares me

[long zodiac]

if it's in an early ante shop and the build allows for lower strength hands like high hard, pair, and two pair, grimbo is sneakily good

[woven hare]

who's hating grimbo

its just nice

[long zodiac]

people who just got into the game probs

[woven hare]

oh

[long zodiac]

i used to hate grimbo

just like chigoat

[azure copper]

im just the worst balatro player

[cloud sinew]

is this a loss?

[azure copper]

nvm

i didnt notice the ace

[primal heath]

you score enough with pair

[cloud sinew]

😭

[long zodiac]

if you just play the aces with halfsies it may win

[azure copper]

yes

my bad

[cloud sinew]

even a high card ace wins

[azure copper]

does it?

[cloud sinew]

yes

[azure copper]

damn

[cloud sinew]

ace is 11, high card base is 6 total, half is 20, which adds to 37, halving it rounds it to 18x18 = 324

[azure copper]

too much math

[cloud sinew]

tldr high card ace wins

[long zodiac]

Balatro is basically one giant math problem

[turbid nova]

since this is plasma you should prioritize chip jokers early

[versed sable]

mm yes +20 score but you can only play 3 cards

[pale wolf]

is it full house or flush draw

[hasty onyx]

Ive heard this is a universal experience

[cloud sinew]

uhhhh

[hasty onyx]

Ive been playing on checkered for like a week seeing clubs and diamonds is jarring

[cloud sinew]

flush

[long zodiac]

Having to actually draw for flushes is jarring after grinding to gold stake on checkered

[serene forge]

how the fuck did you die

[pale wolf]

it was the full house tbh

[cloud sinew]

a high card face wouldve been 56k 😭

[long zodiac]

what the freak was ur BP copying?

[pale wolf]

ok didnt matter

[median grove]

is clever joker = willy joker?

[dark lava]

JokerPokerBalala

[cloud sinew]

i dont understand the question

[median grove]

are they as good as each other

or is one better

[cloud sinew]

clever

flushes are generally easier to play than 3oak

[long zodiac]

nah clever is 2 pair i thought

[ebon condor]

isnt clever 2p kr am i dumb

[cloud sinew]

damn im thinking of crafty

[pale wolf]

the choice of all time

[cloud sinew]

OH BOY

i do wonder

[pale wolf]

i go square with groker

runner with rtb

[cloud sinew]

very obviously

[long zodiac]

i struggle with the names of all of the "adjective" jokers

[cloud sinew]

hm

i dont know if i go runner with RTB

youre locked out of 4 straights because of bus

[pale wolf]

the only adjective joker i know by heart is purple joker

[long zodiac]

maybe if there was a superposition where you were playing 5 high straights, i could see it

[turbid nova]

you'll probably delete your face cards if you're riding the bus anyway

[pale wolf]

also grabber on blue deck

insanity

[cloud sinew]

it's ante 2

and that still requires a lot of deckfixing

runner + rtb means you're locked out of 4/9 straights

[long zodiac]

the humble ante 3 immolate:

[pale wolf]

"here, have everything"

[cloud sinew]

which just so happens to hit 5 of your 12 faces

[ebon condor]

antisynergy sell green joker

[turbid nova]

new run

it's ruined

[pale wolf]

oh im dumb i sold delgrat but the next round is water

[turbid nova]

midas mask in buffoon pack

[brittle ocean]

What’s wrong with that

[tawdry epoch]

omg a legendary

[dawn summit]

gg

[long zodiac]

You're getting canio or chicot

[turbid nova]

does he know

[dawn summit]

nothing*

[pale wolf]

why does my fav have to show up now

[long zodiac]

OH I DIDNT EVEN SEE THE ETERNAL TAGS LMAO

[turbid nova]

your fav is troubadour?

weird choice but ok

[pale wolf]

aj 💛

[turbid nova]

lowkey troubadour makes it easier to find cards for rebate

and you have tons of hands already

[dawn summit]

hand size does a lot

[tawdry epoch]

omg photochad

[turbid nova]

oh wow

[cloud sinew]

if zebra isnt using every hand up when scaling atm

i would take troub

[turbid nova]

it will pay for itself pretty quickly even with one less hand

[cloud sinew]

+2 handsize means you get more value out of rebate per discard, which means fewer groker downscales

[humble gulch]

My legs hurt

[pale wolf]

of all the nat negatives...

[waxen quartz]

my seed has early death, maybe magic deck? it's pretty easy to dump an unleveled high card and my jokers come much earlier (b/c you quickly get piles of mult, any hand with chips is going to score a big chunk...up to ante 5 playing more than 2 or 3 2pr even of the low cards won pretty fast)

[cloud sinew]

theyre not meant to

[humble gulch]

Me when I walked a ton yesterday

❤️‍🩹

[pale wolf]

probably should've yea

[cloud sinew]

thats alr

[dawn summit]

good job

[cloud sinew]

good to know for the next time a similar situation comes up

[turbid nova]

what value is green at rn

[humble gulch]

🐑

[cloud sinew]

youre not exactly struggling, youre on blue deck with grabber, groker and square at ante 3

[cloud sinew]

im searching for a coupon -> spare, brain, blue, burg seed

it'll probably take a while but the odds aren't so high that no seed is likely to exist

[waxen quartz]

you can't make use of the extra hands well til ante 3/4/5? just get the pants fast is fine

[pale wolf]

judgement ...

[waxen quartz]

(I skipped for investment since I needed lots of rerolls ante 2 to grab BP)

[cloud sinew]

wait

if scoring too much ends up being too much of a big deal, plasma might actually be better

[humble gulch]

Oui

[waxen quartz]

can try, think that'd be worse. even low 2pr is points

[humble gulch]

Oh god

[waxen quartz]

ante 6 I was playing like 10 of them

[cloud sinew]

i take foil grimbo here

[long zodiac]

take foil grimbo, it's ante 1

[cloud sinew]

riff raff is good but it's not so much better than a guaranteed foil grimbo

[waxen quartz]

but red deck. take riff, do something fun

[humble gulch]

I mean, it's red, I could be greedy and take riff raff and wee