🕹・game-discussion

[lost vault]

mew

hello

[serene forge]

nya

[ebon condor]

if you dont pat spoker on the head after he does a good job then dni

[pale wolf]

space Joker can be one of the most infuriating Jokers

[ancient gyro]

day 1 vaca and im already close to getting sunburnt

[cloud sinew]

ive learned to mostly ignore space joker

[lost vault]

i love space joker

[cloud sinew]

ill still take it, but i dont think about it proccing at all

[ebon condor]

space joker is just runner

[ancient gyro]

i give him the per ante check

[turbid nova]

one time I picked up blueprint and space, it did NOTHING for 2 antes and I died

[ebon condor]

thats it thats the end of my statement

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[lost vault]

fair

[cloud sinew]

ive been playing way more two pair with streaking recently, and space joker has been quite useful for that

chips scaling my beloved

[ancient gyro]

real

[earnest flame]

I have better luck finding my blue seals from a 90 card holoslop deck with stuntman than getting spaceman proc when needed

[turbid nova]

space jonker while you're playing your main hand 😴 🛌
space joker when you play a throwaway high card 🤩 🌠 🚀

[ancient gyro]

pairs being both

[cloud sinew]

space is a lobotomy joker

[ebon condor]

tbf this happens with pairs too

[cloud sinew]

it works best when your main hand is your "throwaway" hand

[serene forge]

I once watched my friend have blueprint and sponkler and it didn't proc for 13 turns

so it went 0/26

[lost vault]

me when the chance based joker does something you dont want it to

[cloud sinew]

when are you ever not playing pairs in a pair build

[earnest flame]

Burger and no pairs in hand

[ebon condor]

when i get the like 5% chance to not draw one

[cloud sinew]

that's not something that will happen fairly often

[ancient gyro]

7% skill issue

[pale wolf]

when I fail to draw them three hands in a row with burglar and I get spaceman procs on all of them but never a single pair

[turbid nova]

it does sometimes tho

[serene forge]

playing hc instead of pair with gronkler because you don't want to discard for one for no reason

[cloud sinew]

sure, but not often enough for it to be a main complaint

[earnest flame]

Oh you sometimes get straight flushes straight in the opening hand with zero pairs, it happens

[serene forge]

royal flush first hand

[ancient gyro]

outside of mouth, idrc

[turbid nova]

play hc intentionally for further green joker scaling

[earnest flame]

You throw that strush on the table and spaceman jumps to action

[serene forge]

to be fair, that's not always a wise decision because it can fuck with a potential obelisk

[pale wolf]

yeah I mean obviously you play whatever will give you the most played hands per round while still surviving

[cloud sinew]

something that ive been forgetting a lot is selling end of round effect perishables on their last round

[ancient gyro]

late pick nova

[ebon condor]

eh

[ancient gyro]

obbylicks/nova mostly

[ebon condor]

i feel like intentionally scaling less for the potential obelisk is just the pair player version of holding bloodstone hoping for oa6

[cloud sinew]

with space joker, as long as you can play pairs at least 70% of the time then you should probably be going for pair over hc, and space joker shouldnt be treating you too harshly if you play enough hands for variance to not be that big of a deal.

[serene forge]

im going to delete my account now

[ancient gyro]

except it has like 40 different alternatives

[earnest flame]

Ghost deck oops -> hex -> ankh and that is literally all you need for econ and scoring from luckycards

[ancient gyro]

thank god, u r long overdue for an internet vacation

[pale wolf]

I would be the one on the right

because of the cloud

[ebon condor]

tag yourself!

[turbid nova]

I saw someone suggest a joker that makes you continue a round even after getting to the target score until your hands run out

[weak relic]

Zen mode or smth

[ebon condor]

oh ive seen that before i dont hate it tbh

[turbid nova]

blue seal hunt ahh

[ancient gyro]

happy 50k #🕹・game-discussion message milestone

[turbid nova]

of course you would lose money from extra hands

[pale wolf]

I remember this from somewhere as well and thought it was funny

[weak relic]

Maybe it'd fit more as a voucher?

[turbid nova]

but there's a lot of potential from playing further

[turbid nova]

ehh too broken imo

[serene forge]

why the hell did you search for that

[turbid nova]

it should eat up a joker slot at least

[ancient gyro]

just a hunch

you're long overdue

[turbid nova]

I mean it IS just the absolute "winmore" that people complain about

[serene forge]

for what

[pale wolf]

He's going to kill you

[turbid nova]

that means you are oneshotting everything and just want to get more value out of your seals, gold cards etc

[pale wolf]

for being too chronically online

[turbid nova]

or purple seals too sometimes you're left with some discards

that's probably one of the biggest perks

[ebon condor]

they should add a win less joker- oh wait

you can make the punchline yourself

[turbid nova]

they did it's called "Hit the Road"

don't ????? me

it's ASS

[frank grove]

avg full house enjoyer L

[serene forge]

pot

[ebon condor]

rebate is a win less joker because it makes you discard kings (the best suit) sometimes

[serene forge]

kettle

smooch

[turbid nova]

obv 8 is the best rank it has fib AND 8 ball

[serene forge]

yorick is win less because using it makes me snooze

[ancient gyro]

ight

[pale wolf]

someone would get mad

[serene forge]

why

i <3 yuri

[serene forge]

i love hrt

[pale wolf]

I wish hit the road only reset after cash out

[turbid nova]

clearly carried by throwback and loyalty card

[ancient gyro]

loyalty did proc that hand

[ancient gyro]

i forget to screenshot its numbers every time

[pale wolf]

sometimes I've had to grab the screen cap from my recording

[ebon condor]

i think htr should reset every ante but scale on cards sold instead of jacks discarded

thoughts?

[dawn summit]

thanks

[turbid nova]

I have a grudge against it because

1. It never shows up for me
2. When I pick it up I lose

almost every other rare has played a big role in an ante 8 win

yes even Baron

[unborn cliff]

what does he even do?

[serene forge]

full hourse players so bad that they lose with jokers that they never get

[dawn summit]

steals and blue seals

[turbid nova]

omg I should remove this name 🙄

[serene forge]

yeah and then they could buff it to 0.6x or 0.75x per card sold

then it would be balanced

[turbid nova]

but I won't bc I will defend FH to my last breath 🌎

[unborn cliff]

steals

[ebon condor]

idk i prefer fuller house

[unborn cliff]

iron lung for you

[serene forge]

steal

[dawn summit]

i dont like language

[ebon condor]

its just more full

[cloud sinew]

there's very little reason for me to go for full houses outside of ante 1

[dawn summit]

slightly big pair

[weak relic]

Gold steak

[cloud sinew]

gold snake

[dawn summit]

real

[turbid nova]

ok but to be fair this seed was free

[serene forge]

losing is a pretty big reason

its just not a good one

[dawn summit]

i think full house is fine prior to the blue stake

[turbid nova]

I had like 10 twos, seltzer and hack but wee never showed up 😔

[cloud sinew]

that's a 4oak setup

not a full house one

[frank grove]

its insane that 7 full house levels is that BAD 😭

[turbid nova]

but full house is easierr

I had a lot of like 3 different ranks

[ebon condor]

ykw im bringing this back EARTH IS THE WORST CARD IN THE GAME

[cloud sinew]

it really isnt, not with 10 of a rank atp

[turbid nova]

I had pants

[cloud sinew]

that's all you needed to say

[turbid nova]

that's why I said it was a free seed

[ebon condor]

when did you get the pants

[dire sage]

why do y'all hate full house

[turbid nova]

at the end I literally just threw it back and skipped everything

[dawn summit]

i like 2 pair a lot more

[drifting jungle]

Chat my jokers where tuff but i needed more +mult

[turbid nova]

dont u wanna discard for just one more card

[frank grove]

scales bad for the way higher chance of low rolling draws

[turbid nova]

you see a 3oak but don't you just wanna play 5 scoring cards

isn't that fun

[dawn summit]

id rather just have a gold card or blue seal or steel than play that extra card

[serene forge]

no

[cloud sinew]

it doesnt have a very strong niche, and that niche doesnt come up often.
it's planet scaling doesnt make it worth going for over 2 pair, 3oak, or 4oak.
the joker synergies are rarely worth going for over 2 pair, 3oak, or 4oak

[tawdry maple]

Guys, I gold staked black deck

[cloud sinew]

and it's inconsistent to draw

[tawdry maple]

Finallyyyy

[fringe nebula]

good job

[turbid nova]

congrats

[tawdry maple]

Ty

[turbid nova]

lucky cat based

I love lucky cards

[tawdry maple]

Fr. Lucky cards went so crazy at the start

I think I got 80 dollars on a full house

I'm never playing black deck again. Lol

[turbid nova]

one day I will win a high stake black deck game without being carried by burglar

[ebon condor]

earth is underpowered at +25 +2 but would be op at +5000 +75; therefore there is a perfect value where it would be perfectly balanced

[turbid nova]

make it +3 like saturn

[tawdry maple]

Lmao. Burglar is one of my least favorites, ngl

[turbid nova]

if it's soooo hard to draw

[dawn summit]

burglar has so many synergies

[tawdry maple]

True, I just don't like it. Lol

[turbid nova]

burger is pairslop but I'll let it pass it's helped me a lot

[cloud sinew]

rebate has become more and more prominent in my runs, to the point that burglar is annoying to be given as an option a lot of the time

[turbid nova]

and if you get a copy joker it's gg

[livid scroll]

not only, how about they create 37 negative blueprints per usage and had a 1 in 3 chance to create a negative copy of everg single joker in the game that contains letter e

[tawdry maple]

I HATE pairslop

[dawn summit]

i very rarely dont play pairs

[tawdry maple]

Lameeeee

[turbid nova]

MY MAN 🤝

[tawdry maple]

Flush 5 or die trying

[cloud sinew]

i like winning

[turbid nova]

finally someone gets mee

[dawn summit]

very rarely the seed allows like straights or a late transition to 4oak

[weak relic]

F5 on gold stake is surely a thing

[dawn summit]

but almost always just pair is right

[tawdry maple]

I know, I just did it on black deck

[frank grove]

rarely but yeah 😭

[livid scroll]

well, yeah it's a good thing not trying to use the broken things given by this game to avoid winning easily

[cloud sinew]

why is it a good thing

[dawn summit]

very subjective

[tawdry maple]

Makes the game less boring and repetitive

[wicked sequoia]

This was a bizarre run

[weak relic]

Not like the other girls

[wicked sequoia]

most played hand straight with 9 cards discarded

[frank grove]

i like winning more than like two runs in a row 😭

[cloud sinew]

ive not gotten bored of it and im over 1000 hours in

[livid scroll]

i find pairs super strong honestly, as they are super consistent

[turbid nova]

oh yee

[tawdry maple]

Meh.

[dawn summit]

i dont think anyone disagrees with that

[cloud sinew]

that's not at gold stake though

[weak relic]

Typical vaga carry

[turbid nova]

nah I'm climbing up on erratic

[cloud sinew]

explains the full house tbh

[turbid nova]

full house is lowkey great on this deck

[cloud sinew]

full house is highkey great on erratic

[livid scroll]

wait i misunderstood the question

[weak relic]

The only time I played full house in GS was when game gave me trib and I didn't give a shit about deck fixing

[cloud sinew]

two pair and fh are erratic's bread and butter

[weak relic]

Twas a long time ago

[livid scroll]

yeah sometimes trying winning the hard way can be a way to see the world with more fun

[turbid nova]

FH on photochadslop is easy bc you'll make and add lots of faces

and it scales faster than 2pair

[weak relic]

Topping slop with more slop

[turbid nova]

yep

[tawdry maple]

I wonder if it's possible to get C+ without any joker stickers...

[cloud sinew]

it is

[frank grove]

it would take a while but yeah

[tawdry maple]

Has anyone done it tho?

Lol

[tawdry maple]

Figured

[turbid nova]

I always wondered why flush house scales the fastest out of the secret hands

[cloud sinew]

probably not. 120 jokerless wins, 15 jokerless gold stake wins.
it's too much time for someone to have done it already

[tawdry maple]

Fair enough

[dawn summit]

bc its cool

[tawdry maple]

Leave it to the doc

[cloud sinew]

i was about to take drunkard with burglar lol

[dawn summit]

long term investment

[turbid nova]

I keep a separate profile for balatrorg and appearently it brings out my flushmaxxer side

[cloud sinew]

Yay

[versed sable]

hardest to build around ig

[turbid nova]

banner 🤩

[celest cobalt]

i cant get past ante 2

damn it

[unborn cliff]

joker

[versed sable]

i like that you could unironically take a banner with burglar

[humble gulch]

Something something Amphy

[celest cobalt]

i did buy jokers

[unborn cliff]

did you buy scoring ones

[celest cobalt]

wym 😭

[celest cobalt]

maybe

[humble gulch]

Ball knowledge

[cloud sinew]

when are you dying most often

[unborn cliff]

do they give mult or chips

[frank grove]

i wonder how they're doing

[cloud sinew]

they beat gold stake a couple of times iirc

[unborn cliff]

whats the play here

[cloud sinew]

immolate

wait

[frank grove]

no

[cloud sinew]

you have trance cryptid

uhhh

[frank grove]

its 3 blue seals everytime

[versed sable]

trance cryptid

[unborn cliff]

ok

[cloud sinew]

yes i would trance cryptid

[celest cobalt]

whenever i dont hit anything like a straight multiple times in a row

[celest cobalt]

yea
but not enough ig

maybe ill just try again

[unborn cliff]

i trance cryptided

[tawdry maple]

I like high card and flush five. Lol

[unborn cliff]

what was the name of the joker you took

[versed sable]

play easier hands with jokers that make up the scoring diff maybe

[humble gulch]

They got past ante 3, yay

[tawdry maple]

Ignore Jupiter and Mercury

[versed sable]

and spend more of you need

[turbid nova]

damn all or nothing lol

[cloud sinew]

straight not even in the top 10... :(

[turbid nova]

how neptune above saturn 😂

[tawdry maple]

Straight flush is higher

[cloud sinew]

because it's easier to draw, of course /s

[versed sable]

endless player type stats

[tawdry maple]

Of course

[turbid nova]

it scores more points!

so it's better

full house player logic ^

[tawdry maple]

Fr!

[tawdry maple]

Maybe I like face cards too...

[frank grove]

thats a lot of egg

[cloud sinew]

photo and bloodstone in top 10 ??? 😭

[unborn cliff]

newest econ tech

[turbid nova]

HOW are bluestorm that high

do you play on endless a lot

[tawdry maple]

Yes

[unborn cliff]

laaarrrrppppp

[cloud sinew]

thats pretty normal tbh, theyre very often a take and theyre kept for a long time

[cedar sable]

balatrodle in 4

[unborn cliff]

why do you have a different balatrodle than me

[turbid nova]

"photo top 10 is a red flag" when literally most people who send it here have it as a top 2

[pale wolf]

time zones perhaps

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt make it not a red flag

also speed didnt say that, i did

[unborn cliff]

is it 3 am or 3 pm for you

[turbid nova]

to be honest I agree

[turbid nova]

I know you did

[cedar sable]

3am

[unborn cliff]

ok thats why

[pale wolf]

I'm glad I didn't click on it

[unborn cliff]

now i know tomorrow's balatrodle

[tawdry maple]

Twin fr

[unborn cliff]

i'm genuinely surprised they're that low

[versed sable]

photochad?

[unborn cliff]

brime

[serene forge]

trans cryptid

[cloud sinew]

hello square

[unborn cliff]

🐌

[versed sable]

i mean
bp bs is a lot more universal

[turbid nova]

I've been told FT stands out here but I used to take it pretty much all the time when I started playing

[serene forge]

i said trans not trance

[pale wolf]

yeah this is bonkers

[serene forge]

there's more than just ft to unpack here

[unborn cliff]

"trans cryptid" ermmmm not very woke of you....

[cloud sinew]

how not woke

[turbid nova]

I mean it is very easy to use

[cloud sinew]

trans woke

[turbid nova]

and you can pick it up already scaled

[cloud sinew]

most other mult scalers are better

[versed sable]

[unborn cliff]

calling trans people cryptids..... kinda mean

[turbid nova]

^

[tawdry maple]

That's kinda valid, I used to take hologram a lot when I started and still haven't forced it outta top 10

[cloud sinew]

no

[serene forge]

you have one mult scaler in the list and you got like the 2nd shittiest one

[versed sable]

call me a cryptid
:3

[turbid nova]

I used to take hologram a lot and I still do it's goated

[cloud sinew]

hologram my beloved

[unborn cliff]

is everyone here transgender

[cloud sinew]

no

[turbid nova]

what could possibly be the issue

[tawdry maple]

It's meh. Small deck = better

[versed sable]

enby

[vocal bridge]

what's a trance

[cloud sinew]

it scales so fast, and deckbloat doesnt matter much for lobotomy

[unborn cliff]

doesnt enby fall under trans umbrella

[pallid galleon]

like a quarter

[tawdry maple]

Eh

[turbid nova]

generally yeah but the score makes up for it

[versed sable]

but hi i literally have cryptid in my pronouns page

[versed sable]

usually

[serene forge]

photo second
ft third
smiley fifth
ft only mult scaler in the list

[turbid nova]

what's with the ??? what's the issue, raised fist?

[cloud sinew]

also no chips in your top 10

[cloud sinew]

fist is completely fine

fist is a healthy top 10

[serene forge]

fist is actually good

lol

[unborn cliff]

how do you use this in a conversation

[cloud sinew]

the same way you use any other pronoun

[turbid nova]

like half of everyone here has photo second

[cloud sinew]

in place of a noun or noun phrase

i.e "void said"

[turbid nova]

his best

[tawdry maple]

I have no chips in my top 10. Lol

[versed sable]

those are under words, not pronouns

the page is for more than just one thing qwq

[unborn cliff]

wouldn't it just be easier to say her name at that point

[turbid nova]

and I quite enjoy using vagabond

[serene forge]

if you put a hundred idiots in a room together they don't become not idiots

[vocal bridge]

it doesn't say these are pronouns

[unborn cliff]

do you expect me to read or something

[serene forge]

based

[vocal bridge]

whoops i'm slow

[versed sable]

[cloud sinew]

"easier" maybe, but that's also up to them if they want to be referred to in that way

[kind cloud]

Artemis II Launch Live Coverage

[unborn cliff]

hm..... i suppose that's how pronouns work

okay lets talk about the video game

[serene forge]

it's not hard to do what other people want even if you might not understand it :)

[unborn cliff]

super truth nova

[turbid nova]

when I started playing I thought stuff like grimbo or bus were terrible because they didn't match the way I played

[versed sable]

i'm a weird creature but i have more normal options of words to call me if anyone decides to check so

[turbid nova]

Now I use them sometimes but not enough for them to get near the top

[serene forge]

we've all been there

[unborn cliff]

pivot

[tawdry maple]

Of course

[cloud sinew]

have you seen The Head

[tawdry maple]

Never bait

[turbid nova]

if I reset the profile after my first month or so it would look very different

[unborn cliff]

i dont think so

[turbid nova]

but I want to keep it authentic

[cloud sinew]

then i wouldnt

[tawdry maple]

the head

[unborn cliff]

i will just trake my pairslop free win

[cloud sinew]

i would take oops though

[serene forge]

this happened to me yesterday

[unborn cliff]

take it

[humble gulch]

Son (Turns 3 selected cards into hearts) 😭

[cloud sinew]

i love vagabond

so much

[torpid notch]

shii should i"?

[serene forge]

same

[cloud sinew]

why did you keep showman 😭

[turbid nova]

same

[serene forge]

sell showman and go next

I hate Showman

[torpid notch]

he kinda gave me that card

[unborn cliff]

20 dolar.... or legendary

[versed sable]

legendary

[cloud sinew]

legendary is, at worst, $10

[unborn cliff]

trib pivot

[cloud sinew]

so id go for leg

[versed sable]

^

[tawdry maple]

Ye

[serene forge]

its gonna be canio and ur gonna win

[unborn cliff]

savescummed for a 2nd chance

[turbid nova]

go my yorick

[unborn cliff]

do i pivot and maybe die

or take 20 dolar

[serene forge]

post deck

[tawdry maple]

👍

[cloud sinew]

i would hermit

[unborn cliff]

not ready for trib award

[celest cobalt]

how to get negative jokers only

[serene forge]

yeah no

hermit

[tawdry maple]

Piv anyways

[unborn cliff]

i DO have a deja vu on me

thinking emoji

[cloud sinew]

wow, ONE retrigger!

surely this will save me against The Plant

[unborn cliff]

cryptid in 2 rerolls

[versed sable]

"cheat"

[unborn cliff]

ok ill be BORING and take 20 dollars

[turbid nova]

aww

[versed sable]

be insanely lucky or use a zillion negative tags or use mods

[turbid nova]

boooo

[unborn cliff]

i'm sorry 💔

[cloud sinew]

if you cared about having fun over playing optimally then you wouldnt be asking for advice

[tawdry maple]

This is so true

[unborn cliff]

i want to also not die

[celest cobalt]

you can do that?

[tawdry maple]

You won't. Trust.

[turbid nova]

who cares about the plant you could have had chigoat

[versed sable]

technically
but like
who cares about mods

[cloud sinew]

mfw 1/35 runs

[celest cobalt]

woah thats a risky thing to say on a discord server

[unborn cliff]

better than a trib

[cloud sinew]

mime, goated

what happened to your chaos

[tawdry maple]

I didn't mean to reply to. I meant to reply to the message above

[turbid nova]

enjoy losing to the violet vessel

[cloud sinew]

did you hex 😭

[unborn cliff]

hex

yeah i wanted my shiny summit

[tawdry maple]

💀

[celest cobalt]

woah woah woah woah

chill out here

tribrulee is kinda the best

[unborn cliff]

bro you havent beaten ante 2 i will not take your opinion on this

[tawdry maple]

Lol

[celest cobalt]

i cant beat ante 2 lately

but i have beaten it before

[celest cobalt]

maybe i skip everything

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[tawdry maple]

I mean, ante 2 black deck gold stake kinda tuff though

[celest cobalt]

thats not a good idea

[tawdry maple]

Never skip

[celest cobalt]

i am using a black deck!

[tawdry maple]

You poor soul

[celest cobalt]

wait but i get cool rewards

[celest cobalt]

isnt it good though

[fringe nebula]

even more important for you to not skip anything on black deck

[celest cobalt]

you get extra jokers

[tawdry maple]

Not as cool as the shops

[tawdry maple]

-1 hand means -1 dollar every round and less opportunity to score points, potentially saving your run.

[unborn cliff]

crazy joker and pareidolia stickered

[tawdry maple]

Unless you get econ super early, -1 hand can be detrimental to a run.

[cloud sinew]

-1 hands is -$1 a round, -5 cards seen, -1 scaling for jokers a round, and +33% scoring needed per hand.
all you get is 1 joker slot

[torpid notch]

always take the skips

[tawdry maple]

Lucky mfker

[celest cobalt]

but
i might get something cool

[unborn cliff]

anecdote

[cloud sinew]

you "might", or you could increase your chances of getting something good by not skipping

[celest cobalt]

i shall try this tactic now

[cloud sinew]

most of the time youre just shooting yourself in the foot by skipping

[tawdry maple]

But you lose out on the money you get from interest and from completing the blind.

[celest cobalt]

atleast i dont lose interest

[cloud sinew]

what skip even was it

[tawdry maple]

And you get to see less shops.

[tawdry maple]

Poly

[torpid notch]

rare joker and poly

[cloud sinew]

😭

YOU HAVE A HEX

WHY DID YOU TAKE A POLY SKIP

[tawdry maple]

You took 2? 💀

[torpid notch]

habit

[tawdry maple]

Awful

[cloud sinew]

you saved $2

[tawdry maple]

Not even bro

[cloud sinew]

by not using the hex they get to sell it for $2

you skipped for $2 😭

[pale wolf]

BOTH

[celest cobalt]

ok i have learnt not to skip

[tawdry maple]

That's what I'm saying

[celest cobalt]

balathrow

[torpid notch]

what can i say 2 us better than 1 amiright

[tawdry maple]

You make it outta ante 2?

[pale wolf]

absolute legend

[long zodiac]

** OH BABY, A TRIPLE!**

[earnest flame]

Who needs econ when u have scaling

[pale wolf]

ok its balatro

[celest cobalt]

ill try tmrw
and skipping worked pretty well for me
i reached ante 17 before i died

[celest cobalt]

but i had to do new runs like 20 times

until i got the perfect run

[tawdry maple]

Dang, you probably could've pushed further

[dawn summit]

its so over

[celest cobalt]

no i couldnt have

i asked on the server

[humble gulch]

Is this Swiss's alt

[celest cobalt]

they said its as far as my build goes

[tawdry maple]

If you didn't skip that is.

[celest cobalt]

woah

[dawn summit]

i have no idea who that is so safe to say probably not

[pale wolf]

(time)

[celest cobalt]

you sir have opened a lot of new possibilities

i love it

[tawdry maple]

Lmao

[atomic cargo]

Skipping is ok ante 1 for investment tag

[cloud sinew]

just lyk, when you're adding an apostrophe after a word that ends in s, you don't put another s, so it would be Swiss'

[atomic cargo]

Or voucher skips if you are going for naneinf

[tawdry maple]

Only skips I'll typically take are investment tags in ante 1 or 2, negative skips, and voucher skips.

[celest cobalt]

who is naneinf

[humble gulch]

Didn't know 🐑

[celest cobalt]

ok im getting too many spoilers

[atomic cargo]

[cloud sinew]

TLDR "naneinf" is the highest score you can get

[atomic cargo]

Basically

[serene forge]

awa

[dawn summit]

awa

[tawdry maple]

awa

[humble gulch]

Who decided that english will be the most talked laguage ❤️‍🩹

[tawdry maple]

Me

[cloud sinew]

nobody

[earnest flame]

Perfectly calculated scaling for needle

[atomic cargo]

Once you hit e308 I think? Maybe 304? But basically at a big number you get the score “not a number to the power of infinity”

[serene forge]

post game superboss that gives you absolutely nothing meaningful as a reward

[atomic cargo]

There

[humble gulch]

Lol

[cloud sinew]

1.798e308

[tawdry maple]

308

[pale wolf]

3oak chisp

[serene forge]

shortcut is a scoring jonkler

[cloud sinew]

wily coyote

[atomic cargo]

There is is

[tawny bough]

now that i got my first naninf not sur whats next do i try for another naneinf its so easy lol?

[atomic cargo]

U just have that memorized…

[pale wolf]

im takeing

[cloud sinew]

yes

[serene forge]

gold stake naneinf no plasma no ghost no perkeo

[atomic cargo]

The 308 is chill

[pale wolf]

because

[atomic cargo]

ZANY THE GOAT

[cloud sinew]

YEEEEAH

[tawdry maple]

I wanna get 2 Mr bones so bad but I never see him in my runs.

[tawny bough]

lemme think that through

[pale wolf]

lets see if i can draw 1 (one) throak

do i ouija

[atomic cargo]

Yes

[pale wolf]

i didnt open the pack im kidding

[atomic cargo]

👍 👍 👍

…

[pale wolf]

thats bonkers

[cloud sinew]

you have appeased the gods

[atomic cargo]

Oujia is the fun play

But rarely smart

Unless pair gaming 👀

[celest cobalt]

it worked wonderfully for me

[cloud sinew]

nah

[tawny bough]

funnily enough would probably be black deck with baron mime+heavy bean bug then burglar ante 25 or smth like that

[atomic cargo]

U didn’t know what naneinf was

[pale wolf]

if i DID open the pack would ouija be good though? or is hex better

[cloud sinew]

+8 ranks for -1 handsize is not a good tradeoff for pairslop

[pale wolf]

🦓

[atomic cargo]

Eh

Depends imma say it

[cloud sinew]

im not

[atomic cargo]

If you have paint brush

[cloud sinew]

each +1 handsize gets stronger the more you have of it

[tawdry maple]

It's just kinda bad, ngl

[dawn summit]

the rank just doesnt matter much for pair the handsize helps so much

[atomic cargo]

Yes

[cloud sinew]

which also applies the other way

[humble gulch]

I'm winning now

[deft panther]

I think green deck is my favorite basic colored deck

[cloud sinew]

each -handsize is a bigger downside the lower your handsize already is

[tawdry maple]

I like red

[cloud sinew]

i like blue

[pale wolf]

holy shit

[deft panther]

What does the horse mean

[humble gulch]

I love yellow

[cloud sinew]

what the hell

[earnest flame]

im pretty sure its painted, someone correct me but doesnt painted get basically half of an ecto "free"

[pallid galleon]

HELPP

[tawdry maple]

Blue is arguably better than red, ngl

[pale wolf]

that might be the worst draws ive ever seen

[tawny bough]

whats painted again

[atomic cargo]

Ye, but when it hits 2s and I feel so happy

[cloud sinew]

1/13, and you need to actually find Wee

[deft panther]

I feel like thats a common opinion that I see

[cloud sinew]

which is a rare

[atomic cargo]

I’m not saying you should take ouija

[deft panther]

-1 joker slot +2 hand size

[tawdry maple]

I just like red more though

[atomic cargo]

I’m just saying it’s fun to gamble

[tawny bough]

ah yeah it would be painted then

[humble gulch]

Gg

[atomic trout]

Banana

[tawny bough]

actually probably not

[cloud sinew]

it is, which is why ouija really shouldnt have such a big downside

[atomic cargo]

Yes

[pale wolf]

this is why i hate yellow deck

[atomic cargo]

Agreed

[tawdry maple]

Are we really ahnking on banana

[atomic trout]

Invisible Joker

[cloud sinew]

i think obelisk might be the play (56 pairs, 4 levels)

[tawdry maple]

Oh

[deft panther]

Ouija is -1 hand for the downside right

[tawny bough]

as black deck is ecto but its -1 hand size and then ur first ecto also only removes 1 hand size maybe im wrong tho just would be a rough early game

[cloud sinew]

-1 handsize

-1 hands would be even more ridiculous

[deft panther]

What

[atomic trout]

I Hexed Chad

[tawdry maple]

Ts

[tawny bough]

sweeet

[cloud sinew]

ouija is -1 handsize

[deft panther]

That -1 hand size applies after it turns all the cards in the current hand right, like it doesnt leave one card out

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[atomic trout]

Old Gold Stakes 🤣

[cloud sinew]

that wasnt what it was

old gold stake was -1 handsize

[pale wolf]

this is why i love blue deck

[deft panther]

I've been a Ouija appreciator lately it's done a lot for some of my recent runs

[cloud sinew]

ouija my hatred

either make it so youre able to choose, or change the downside

[serene forge]

I hate Weegee

[atomic trout]

Misery

[deft panther]

Being able to choose would be too strong I feel

[cloud sinew]

how?

-1 handsize for +7 of a rank

[deft panther]

How wouldn't it

[tawdry maple]

[serene forge]

i <3 yuri

[cloud sinew]

because youre still losing a handsize for the same amount of deckfixing, it's just that you get to choose out of the cards youve drawn which rank it should be changed into

-1 handsize hurts deck digging a lot

[deft panther]

Yeah that's too strong imo

[cloud sinew]

why

[dawn summit]

everyone does

[deft panther]

If it let you choose I'd make it -1 hand

[earnest flame]

We tried to do some matrix reloaded dodge on the eye but we failed

[cloud sinew]

why would letting you choose, while it's -1 handsize, be too strong

[deft panther]

I dunno that just feels too strong

Too much control especially with how easily you can get big hand sizes

[cloud sinew]

you really cant

there are 3 jokers and 1 voucher pair that gives handsize

[long zodiac]

i just had the most heartbreaking end to my run ever

[dawn summit]

nerf juggler tag honestly

[long zodiac]

i had cerulean bell and it call came down to the last discard

[earnest flame]

dna is like semihandsize

[deft panther]

Like if I have a Ouija I could hold it until I have a bean and then make a huge slice of my deck into a rank of my choice

[long zodiac]

i had a flush house sitting in my hand and it selected the spade instead of my 50 queens of hearts

[deft panther]

Being able to choose is too much I feel

[tawny bough]

is early dna good or skip might have a steel/gold red seal soon

[cloud sinew]

thats such an insanely niche scenario

[cloud sinew]

that it's completely fine that it's strong in that niche

[dawn summit]

yea i think it would be great

[deft panther]

I'd make it -1 hand if it let you choose the rank

[cloud sinew]

that's not something that would come up often, and even when it comes up it's not like it becomes an autowin at all

[eager cairn]

Ouija once was extremely useful when I had a double polychrome troubadour with the hand size voucher to have +5 hand size

[earnest flame]

nerf rebate to 3$ and let us use copy jokers on andy

[tawny bough]

ples :p

[cloud sinew]

youve yet to explain how it would be OP outside of a very niche scenario

[turbid nova]

Ouija is a lose button

[earnest flame]

you do not want to fill your deck before its fixed

[tawny bough]

alr thanks

[dawn summit]

id take it but just not use it yet

[tawny bough]

pluh

[hidden lance]

FINALLY

[tawny bough]

nah i think radio has the right call

[earnest flame]

there are better things to fill that slot

[dawn summit]

not yet

[tawny bough]

aye sweet

[earnest flame]

where is your rebate

[hidden lance]

one remains

[earnest flame]

parking, business, rebate, choose your poison or just pick them all

[frank grove]

🤤

[earnest flame]

golden ticket too

[pale wolf]

yum

[dawn summit]

you can definitely take dna without worrying about the joker slots for a good while, even nice just to rare block, bull alone can win rn, its not like you wouldnt be able to fit a recon joker

[eager cairn]

Heckin love flash card

[earnest flame]

you should be filling your slots with econ jokers + bull

[dawn summit]

yes

but the econ jokers are not there right now

[hidden lance]

what was the most difficult jokers yall had for c++

[dawn summit]

dna is not eternal

[cloud sinew]

probably Popcorn

[tawny bough]

hallucination over anything here? probs photo

[eager cairn]

Seltzer is proving to be a pain in my butt

[tawny bough]

or wait faceless probably

[cloud sinew]

turtle bean is undoubtedly harder, but because i prioritised the harder ones i happened to get turtle bean done very early

[deft panther]

I dunno it just feels too strong I don't know what to tell you. I'm not a YouTuber or a spreadsheet jockey who can tell you mathematically why it's too strong it just feels really strong

[earnest flame]

sure, like its not harmful, and if u get a gold seal card then its good to make some copies of it, but then again you should be rolling to max until you get actual econ rolling

[deft panther]

I don't know what you want from me

[hidden lance]

it was my 3rd last. my last 5 have been hiker, family, pop corn , bean and now only seltzer remains

[versed sable]

idol, perkeo, and Agate were my last 3

[tawny bough]

any tips on what i should do here?

[versed sable]

agate is just not my playstyle ig

the other two are hard tho

[cloud sinew]

i want to have a discussion about a suggestion that isnt just "this feels too strong".
it feels very one-sided if you arent able to describe how it would be too strong

[dawn summit]

not only gold seal, any purple would be nice to get a couple of this early, i think theres just no harm with a high potential to be helpful

[earnest flame]

your photo is doing absolutely nothing so that goes, you are lacking on deck fixing and both of those can help with it, id probably take hallucination and hold on for rebate

[deft panther]

My initial gut reaction to it is just that it feels too strong it feels like too much control for how much deck fixing it is at once that's all I can think to specify about it

You posted your suggestion to this public chat and someone from the public responded to it I'm sorry I'm not able to satisfy your desire for more in depth discussion about it

[earnest flame]

you do want chad for econ and potential 8 ball, photo is just useless for white stake plasma

[pale wolf]

is it stronger than, say, instant $20 and 5 cards removed from your deck?

[earnest flame]

immolate is absolutely busted

[tawny bough]

and dnas back xd

[cloud sinew]

you gave feedback about a suggestion. if your feedback isn't constructive then it feels annoying to receive it because there's nothing I can really learn from being told that.

[dawn summit]

block wouldve been blueprint trust

[deft panther]

Do you guys wanna actually have a discussion or just epically dunk on a guy you disagree with

[pale wolf]

i dont think ouija landing on the correct rank is a better result than simply getting immolate

[tawny bough]

xd dont do me like that lol

[cloud sinew]

i want a discussion

if i wanted to insult people i'd go to r/balatro

[deft panther]

Well I'm sorry that my feedback to your suggestion was annoying to you I just don't have much more to say about it than that it feels like a really strong buff

[dawn summit]

i forgive u

[tawny bough]

thinking of taking dna now that i have a steel king will help me draw it more for deaths

[pale wolf]

"wheres my damn xmult"
"no not that"

i havent seen any chips or xmult

[earnest flame]

even if ouija hits the correct rank you get what, 8 cards of the same rank, same as using two strengths, at best case after ouija you have 11 of the same rank, with unfixed deck that is still only like 20% of the deck, probably not even enough to reliably draw 4oak

[tawny bough]

like one or two extra red seal kings definitely doesnt hurt just not sure who i kill

[deft panther]

Red seals are fun

[pale wolf]

no not that

i. mean it is that

but i am mad

[serene forge]

pairslop time

[earnest flame]

the drawback is huge, if you are playing 5 card hands you can only hold 2 cards in your hand, and trying to fit steel or blue seals there is a pain and really hinders your discarding

[tawny bough]

honestly yeah

[versed sable]

"undoubtedly" sob

[dawn summit]

id just kill rough gem, if thats even what its called i dont even remember

[deft panther]

I'm gonna stop playing black deck because I just can't force myself to remember that I have an extra joker slot so I'm just playing with -1 hand

[tawny bough]

uhh

[versed sable]

blue is the goat
purple gold and red are all kinda situational

[earnest flame]

that is a good lesson on how useful an extra slot is on ante 8 runs (its not really)

[tawny bough]

litterally i always forget to use my 6th slot EVERY run lmao

[dawn summit]

funky looking

[versed grove]

Y'all is dna x hologram a viable combo?

[dawn summit]

yes

[tawny bough]

hell yes

[deft panther]

I saw a YouTuber say that DNA is bad so if you take that you're throwing

[dawn summit]

who

[deft panther]

Because YouTubers are always right

[tawny bough]

ahhh

[earnest flame]

well it isnt that good

[serene forge]

how the hell is purple situational

[tawny bough]

its shit unless it isnt

[earnest flame]

if you take early dna you are throwing on higher stakes

[versed grove]

Eh. I finished the run with that combo, its not that bad imo (im a starter)

[earnest flame]

its baron bait tier

[deft panther]

It's not a bad combo I'm shitposting

[atomic trout]

When I math wrong

[tawny bough]

skip?

got no levels

[deft panther]

Fin de partida

[frank grove]

what.... thats funny neg bloodstone right next to oops 😭

[pale wolf]

this is actually tough

[earnest flame]

you are using a hand to copy a card, and usually your goal is to make your deck as small as possible so thats already an issue, of course you can use it to copy good cards but you are not guaranteed to draw them on a barely fixed deck

[versed sable]

ok fair

[frank grove]

a second nat neg this shop what 😭

[earnest flame]

if you are copying just basic cards, even if they are face cards then you are not actually making your deck better imo

[versed grove]

I was also using blue joker w it cuz I dont have much options

[fading dome]

when I take my eternal burglar, obviously

[bold shadow]

Y’all I just got perkeo and blueprint

Hell yeah

[deft panther]

Every time I take DNA I end up throwing because I'm dumb and I no-brain against the Mouth because I play a high card for DNA then am locked into High Card for the rest of the boss blind and lose the run over it

[earnest flame]

you cant even call 2 chips every round scaling, that is just making your deck bloated with zero gains

[serene forge]

true....

[versed grove]

I mostly was just focused on getting standard packs and tarot cards to enhance my playing cards

[serene forge]

if you're not copying a blue/purple seal or a gold card with dna you are more likely than not wasting your time

[versed grove]

My brain is too underdeveloped for this kind of information

[earnest flame]

2 chips every round, even if you get it round 1 then its 48 chips through the game

48 chips is less than a holo addition on a card/joker

and then you have a deck with 100 random cards

dna is only worth if you are copying really powerful cards, like red seal steel, purple or blue

[versed grove]

And again, I didnt have any better options cuz im literally a starter with barely 1.3 hours in the game

[earnest flame]

I wouldnt even copy basic gold cards

unless you are running holo

[serene forge]

still better than square joker smh my head

[deft panther]

Polychrome on playing cards only gets added when they're played right? Like polychrome on a steel card isn't adding the polychrome mult when the steel triggers?

[serene forge]

ye

[deft panther]

Thanks

[frank grove]

LMAO WHAT

[dawn summit]

peak

[serene forge]

hey i also got a nat neg eternal acrobat yesterday

[tawny bough]

dna wtf i just sold u last blind 😭

[frank grove]

this run 😭

[versed grove]

Uhh.. is that rare?

[cloud sinew]

crimson almost killed me

[pale wolf]

wrong uncommon

[serene forge]

sigh

[pale wolf]

WOOOO

[serene forge]

brilliant first draw

[deft panther]

Negative bloodstone is pretty metal looking

[cloud sinew]

YAY

[humble gulch]

I prefer red card

[cloud sinew]

youd only need 1 or 2 diamonds in a 5 card hand for AJ to beat a1 bb or Bb

[serene forge]

?????????????????

[cloud sinew]

VAGABOND

[humble gulch]

@frank grove Happy?

[versed grove]

Blu❤️

[earnest flame]

My greatest shop roll

[versed grove]

What the hell is even going on😭

[fading dome]

he's gamin

[frank grove]

stupid ass run 😭

[frank grove]

how your deck will look at the end of this

[versed grove]

I guess...

[earnest flame]

I was just feeding my cat

[serene forge]

what number should i fix for with my strengths

[earnest flame]

depends on the situation

[versed grove]

Is this sum average run for pros？

[humble gulch]

Thank you certificate, I guess...

[glass creek]

No

[earnest flame]

only thing that almost always apply is using strenght to make 4 -> 5

and 7 -> 8

8 has 8 ball synergy and fibonacci

[pale wolf]

because xmult is unreliable

[tawny bough]

think i can kill hallucination for golden ticket here?

[earnest flame]

5 has fibonacci, todd, hack and umm

[pale wolf]

superpos

[earnest flame]

well 4 has walkie talkie

[humble gulch]

Huh

Bro, what

I don't want a brainstorm...

[versed grove]

Why is it all eternal

[humble gulch]

Guh

Time to go lucky I guess

[pale wolf]

hehey

[tawny bough]

bloodstone anti 13 cant wait

[flint walrus]

how many ectos can u take in a baron mime naninf run?

[humble gulch]

Eww, endless

[frank grove]

depends on hand size vouchers or bean bug

[humble gulch]

Sighhh, FINEEE

[shell dagger]

usually 2 max but only 1 is necessary most of the time

[frank grove]

more purples 🤤

[tawny bough]

think i gotta take this for anti 9 lol

gg banner

[gray plaza]

Has anyone here tried bean bugging their way to ante 39 like me lol

[pale wolf]

i shoulda taken certificate

[shell dagger]

yes

[gray plaza]

Then you should appreciate a find like this one lol

[shell dagger]

yum

[humble gulch]

Lol

[gray plaza]

I've taken 4 ectos and I still have 27 hand size

I had 26 hands to play on A24 and Bean was only hit ONE TIME

[earnest flame]

negative cola and negative showman are the holy grails

[gray plaza]

Yep

[earnest flame]

you didnt sell your copy jokers?

[gray plaza]

No

[earnest flame]

you could have easily sold them

well the non negative ones

[gray plaza]

With proper copying I was somehow only scoring like e79 with a hand size of 12 the first time I was in A24

[earnest flame]

you save up for the ante 24 beaning and after that you roll until you have all of it back

[earnest flame]

doesnt matter when you have handsize 60, even without copying you would be beating the ante

[long zodiac]

FINALLY

now I grind on Zodiac Deck

[gray plaza]

Well I had back to back bean bug chances since Hieroglyph was on Ante 24 and between the two bosses I only had 3 or 4 hits

26 hands each btw

I think that's a bit absurd lol

[earnest flame]

next time then

[gray plaza]

Yeah there's still A32 and Petraglyph

[lost vault]

still good

[rose smelt]

I genuinely think this seedeis worthy to be talked abt

Unseeded

[lost vault]

eh

[rose smelt]

WHAT

[gray plaza]

I have every voucher except for the 4x edition, Reroll glut and Petraglyph (excluding tarot/planet/magic trick)

[rose smelt]

💔💔💔

[lost vault]

just looks like an average trib run to le

me

[tawny bough]

hell yeah saved the run with a last second mult pivot

[glass creek]

Meh

[rose smelt]

2 negative trib 1 trib 2 idol 1 polychrome blueprint and polychrome socks

[scarlet girder]

so y'all know that 5 card draw challenge

[rose smelt]

Wdymmm

[lost vault]

negatives arent that rare if youre using ecto

which you clearly are

the rest is just par for the course

[rose smelt]

Maan

[woven stone]

im trying to do a good run to do with a bean bug and all that, anything that i should focus on (for unseeded)???

[lost vault]

idol and blueprint are bound to show ip

[earnest flame]

just baron mime (no copying) with 60 handsize red steel kings scores e121

[lost vault]

and frankly polychrome isnt very good that late into the game

[remote jewel]

what

[rose smelt]

Still better than nothing???

[earnest flame]

add one copy to baron and its e183

[lost vault]

not always

nothinh can be better

[rose smelt]

Fym??

[lost vault]

due to the existence of ecto

[remote jewel]

nothing can be better

[dry jasper]

thanks plant 🫩

[remote jewel]

because editioned jokers cant get negative

imo lategame i stop using wheel

[lost vault]

yeah

[earnest flame]

1.5x means nothing when the antes are scaling thousandfold and even more

[lost vault]

holo and foil dont do anything and poly is relatively unimpactful

polychrome cards are what matter

not jokers

[earnest flame]

poly on jokers does absolutely nothing after ante 16 or somewhere around there

[lost vault]

well not entirely nothing

but its less helpful than negative!

duh

i dont mean to say its a bad unseeded run

[earnest flame]

16->17 jumps from e20 to e25, so 100000x

[lost vault]

but its not something that hasnt veen seem vefore

[earnest flame]

I would say 1.5x in that context is absolutely nothing

[humble gulch]

:3

[lost vault]

basically nothing

[frank grove]

how ourples did you end up with?

[lost vault]

ive seen some cases where poly makes the difference but the run was close to death anyway

[humble gulch]

Uhm

[woven stone]

honestly, i just dont use the wheel at all and just ecto all the way through

[lost vault]

son Heart 🙏

[earnest flame]

scientific notation makes the differences seem small but they start to ramp up so fast that even a 100x joker would do basically nothing but still most would take it

you would have to trigger that 100x joker twice ****

[lost vault]

if you know what scientific notation is then the differences do not infact look small

like at all

[earnest flame]

im way too tired, 100x triggered 100 times is a bit more than e5

[glass creek]

e100 vs e101 :D

[flint walrus]

this reserved parking +burglar is carrying my econ but it takes so fucking long 😭

[earnest flame]

100x triggered twice would catch up

right

[lost vault]

not just a bit

[earnest flame]

im crashing out

[turbid nova]

100x joker would just give 2 e's

[earnest flame]

i was about naneinf off there

[lost vault]

if you were to trigger 100x mult 100 times you get 1e200

[tawny bough]

whats a good goal after u get ur first naneinf(plasma+bean bug+baron mime+burger)

[lost vault]

on plasma i guess

[turbid nova]

get a job

[earnest flame]

C++ done?

[tawny bough]

fair answer

[glass creek]

Saturn mod or whatever it is to speed up animations if you're already playing with mods

[tawny bough]

ah good point i need to finish that

[flint walrus]

accidently broke my mods a while back and im too lazy to fix/too scared ill delete my save or smth

[tawny bough]

gonna start with painted deck i think

seems fun

[waxen quartz]

just back up the numbered folders in your user/appdata/balatro

[tawny bough]

ah ive missed gold steak balatro

[pale wolf]

burglar sticker?

nah ill wait

[fading dome]

I wouldn't use Saturn btw, it's old and I'm pretty sure has issues. Handy can do speedup and is good QOL, Amulet should be able to do animation skip

[tawny bough]

tempting

[pale wolf]

which one is talisman

[fading dome]

amulet is the better talisman

[pale wolf]

weee i win

[pale wolf]

thanks whoever made it not be an ingame term

[fading dome]

seems worth it to me

[pale wolf]

spare trousers is broken

[pale wolf]

oh i mega win

hadnt looked at shop yet

[tawny bough]

thats one shit looking immulate

:p

[hearty tusk]

i keep forgettin that you once mentioned youre colorblind and almost ask "what the fuck is this texture pack" because wow😭

it looks incredibly saturated

[tawny bough]

its not just that im color blind i also love how it looks xd

[hearty tusk]

it looks lovely, dont get me wrong, its just the colors

anywho

nice painted run

[tawny bough]

damnit eternal trousers

selling so hard

ecto ples

[cloud sinew]

lol... maybe baron

1 king, but i have very good econ so strength/death shouldnt be a problem

[tawny bough]

gold dteak baron

agh painted deck curse u

[cloud sinew]

ill drop chad for it

[cloud sinew]

dies to the leaf anyway

[tawny bough]

yuh

[tawny bough]

sonion ring uve got 1 king

[safe geyser]

how do i use balatro calculator

[compact gazelle]

photochad trousers was an idea of all time

[safe geyser]

i have my cards set up but how do i find my most scoring hand

[tawny bough]

trousers happened before the photochad showed up 2 shops apart

[bronze leaf]

Trousers my beloved

[pale wolf]

trousers are broken

[safe geyser]

and is there a way on the calculatore to change the mult because its telling me optimal order is cavendish next to blue print because it doesnt know constellation is at a 5.6x mult

[tawny bough]

gotta love when your run is held up with hopes and dreams

[waxen quartz]

paste the link cal

[safe geyser]

paste what link

to my calc

calc is short for calculator btw