🕹・game-discussion

[serene forge]

so does stm??

[waxen quartz]

average draw = it keeps up with green/bus/etc. pants is fine

[serene forge]

i like stm as much as the next guy but cmon

[waxen quartz]

it's also zodiac. more deckfix than normal

[rustic haven]

but stm

[cloud sinew]

you are blinded

[rustic haven]

correct

[stark acorn]

dawg what the FUCK am I looking at

[rustic haven]

i love hc

[frank grove]

114 too many 5oak levels

[spring radish]

no

[serene forge]

how do you have two secrets above saturn

how do you have earth above saturn

this is a fucking biohazard

[cloud sinew]

Eris above Saturn is insane

[frank grove]

that is actually insane

[turbid nova]

Hey don’t slander earth

[cloud sinew]

full house sucks

[serene forge]

i will slander earth

it sucks

[stark acorn]

im moreso wondering how the hell youve managed to get flush five 169 times

[serene forge]

both in game and in reality

[turbid nova]

wrong

[cloud sinew]

the amount isnt really the problem

[patent sail]

i live on it and can confirm it sucks

[cloud sinew]

it's the proportion

[cloud sinew]

right

[frank grove]

also thats far too many 5oak levels

[cloud sinew]

it has horrible scaling for how inconsistent it is

[rustic haven]

slight pivot

[cloud sinew]

it's only 5 chips faster than venus

[stark acorn]

I shit talk Venus a lot but like

[rustic haven]

yk until about 2-3 weeks ago i was a white stake plasma player, does that answer all your questions

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[serene forge]

"i would like to play 3 of a kind but with less consistency and no tangible benefit" - full hourse players for some reason

[rustic haven]

now i actually play the game

so

[turbid nova]

I don’t find it that inconsistent after a bit of deckfix

[cloud sinew]

it explains why high card and flush five are so high

[stark acorn]

earth is so dogshit and only not the worst planet card due to Neptune existing

[cloud sinew]

there's very little reason to go for it over other hands most of the time

[turbid nova]

But it’s 5 cards it’s more fun

[rustic haven]

also i dont play straights

[stark acorn]

neptune sucks I want it out of my fucking shops

[rustic haven]

almost veer

ever

[cloud sinew]

we're talking about balance

[rustic haven]

past ante 2

[cloud sinew]

neptune and earth should jump ship tbh

[stark acorn]

the evil and dastardly shortcut:

[rustic haven]

i dont take it

same with fingers

ima be real

[stark acorn]

fingers is ass I don’t blame you there

[rustic haven]

i dont fw straights

[serene forge]

if 5 cards meant fun then flushes would be fun

[serene forge]

wat

[rustic haven]

and dont bs me with the "but the scaling!"

idc

[turbid nova]

you want balance this is balance

[rustic haven]

ceres vibin

[frank grove]

what....

[turbid nova]

flushes are more fun than pairs there I said it

[stark acorn]

231 Neptune’s?

[cloud sinew]

wth do you mean

[serene forge]

mf your second used is literally jupiter

😭

[cloud sinew]

you have pairs as #5 😭

[turbid nova]

they're balanced

[rustic haven]

?

[turbid nova]

I don't like pairs I've said it again and again

[patent sail]

how it feels to play del grat or something

[serene forge]

lemme see my stats actually

[fiery nymph]

❤️

[serene forge]

hmmmm

[cloud sinew]

you're unnecessarily making things harder for yourself by not playing them

[fiery nymph]

straights 🤤

[icy hollow]

😭 😭 😭 😭 🙏 we twinning

[turbid nova]

I play them IF I have to

[serene forge]

lesbians

[rustic haven]

if you wanna know why my planet levels are the way they are

[serene forge]

endless player 🤢

[stark acorn]

if you’re not even gonna use pairs at least use smth like 4oak

[cloud sinew]

if you play them if you have to to win then you would be playing them like 5x as often

[rustic haven]

true

womp womp

[serene forge]

this is what my endless profile looks like lmao

[rustic haven]

brainstorm over b0

bp

insane

imagine

[turbid nova]

earth used to top the list btw 😂

[stark acorn]

son atp play two pairs

[serene forge]

even in endless i reject photochad 😎

[turbid nova]

it's just the profile I've used since I started playing

[rustic haven]

chad is great

[turbid nova]

I do see it's at the top

[rustic haven]

photo is boo

[patent sail]

here yall go

[spring radish]

grrrr play 2v2 or else

[rustic haven]

go away

[turbid nova]

saving this thanks

[spring radish]

ok father

[cloud sinew]

stop asking about balatro multiplayer in this channel, twin

[rustic haven]

ew

[spring radish]

im leaving now

[icy hollow]

My first profile which i only use for endless now. But hologram still holding on somehow

[patent sail]

take these as well

[serene forge]

lmfao

[spring radish]

photo chad

[rustic haven]

trading card in top 10 is so fire

[turbid nova]

jokrs

[turbid nova]

holy shit

[rustic haven]

jesus

[turbid nova]

other planets are just const value 😭

[cloud sinew]

photo in top 10 is always a red flag

[patent sail]

photo in top TWO is a

flag probably

[spring radish]

my question is why is black board there

[icy hollow]

Yes its my first profile

[patent sail]

of soem color

[cloud sinew]

blackboard is goated

[turbid nova]

uhh because it's the GOAT

[serene forge]

most skilled multiplayer player

[spring radish]

no

[turbid nova]

??

[spring radish]

i hate black board

[icy hollow]

Slight photo use at the start then photo pretty often for early ish endless survival

[turbid nova]

finally someone agrees with me

[spring radish]

fuck that bullst

[stark acorn]

chalkboard is like free 3x if you actually TRY to play around it

[turbid nova]

"I hate having the easiest x3 ever"

[patent sail]

pair joker

[cloud sinew]

very consistent x3

[serene forge]

blackboard is just free 3x

[fiery nymph]

cavendish

[rustic haven]

my spectrals are a bit concerning

[serene forge]

uncommon cavendish

[turbid nova]

requires a sidequest

and doesn't show up often

[fiery nymph]

shows up every run smh!

[spring radish]

nuh uh im NEVER using black board, lucky cat my love

[rustic haven]

DAMN

[stark acorn]

the horses

[turbid nova]

get horse reacted

[spring radish]

DAMN

[rustic haven]

GOD DAMN

😭

[cloud sinew]

you can choose to do so, but it's a good joker.

[turbid nova]

it's my fav of all time

[spring radish]

bro is flash

[spring radish]

Jimbo is goated

[turbid nova]

show tarots

[waxen quartz]

how I play white stake plasma: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486718775809019934/1506345140871237753/Screenshot_20260519_131632.png?ex=6a0f3e3c&is=6a0decbc&hm=2471ea5c34797490b59ee1cfb41a641fb6f6b8060a6218b0b0bb9f039b8f905d&

[spring radish]

me when fool is low??

[turbid nova]

hanged man is prob becoming top 2 soon

[spring radish]

why is fool so low

[turbid nova]

because

there was something else better in the pack idk

[cosmic sun]

🤫

[spring radish]

skull

[ancient dune]

he is a fool

[spring radish]

unoptimised balatro gameplay

fool the fool for the fool to fool the fool

[turbid nova]

also I haven't played too much magic deck

[cloud sinew]

fool being low likely means you dont think about your fool target when you use other consumables

[spring radish]

not you jimbo

its the other guy

[stark acorn]

fuck tou

die

[spring radish]

called Jimbo

[stark acorn]

die

die

die

[cloud sinew]

relax twin

holy shit

[turbid nova]

🤔 tbh true but not so much now

[rustic haven]

if only i kept stm

smh

[turbid nova]

sometimes I've used a planet and then regretted it

[patent sail]

1.1 idea: after ante 9 game crashes and deletes your progress for even daring to go there

[spring radish]

wow

[turbid nova]

amazing

[cosmic sun]

epic

[cloud sinew]

petroglyph being impossible to unlock

[spring radish]

what if it puts a virus in your computer

[rustic haven]

1.1 idea, scratch the point of balatro and make it forced endless only

[spring radish]

and force you to play ante 1 balatro over and over again

[patent sail]

no one needs it anyway

[turbid nova]

who told you to delete stm you had space

[rustic haven]

me for hermit value

[stark acorn]

you could do both

[cloud sinew]

do you use consumables in a particular order such that the last one you use is the better fool target?

[celest cobalt]

i cant beat this

[stark acorn]

this ain’t painted

[celest cobalt]

there is no way I can even hurt this

[patent sail]

1.1 idea: fix the bug where showman appears in shops

[rustic haven]

showman slander is crazy

[stark acorn]

SLY JOKER 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[rustic haven]

wild even

[turbid nova]

lately yeah, but as I said I've had this profile from when I was very inexperienced and part of the stats reflect that

[cloud sinew]

showman is horrific

[patent sail]

this sly joker is carrying the run on his back rn

[rustic haven]

nuh uh

[stark acorn]

showman giving me four oujias in my spectral packs

[rustic haven]

showman goat

[patent sail]

four incantations

[celest cobalt]

hes there for moral support

[warm wedge]

what do i pick

[rustic haven]

YO

[stark acorn]

brainstorm

[rustic haven]

my parking just hit 8 for 8

[turbid nova]

rate my spectrals

[celest cobalt]

the free one and sell it

[rustic haven]

madness

[cosmic sun]

I don't think I can lose any faster without holding R unless I pick Showman which is why he's the goat

[rustic haven]

soul be top 10 is wild

get this mf a luck debuff

[patent sail]

requires GDP of a small european country in rerolls to do anything

[warm wedge]

got it

[rustic haven]

why dont u have thay

that

[warm wedge]

i have 55 souls

[rustic haven]

then

[rustic haven]

SEE

GOAT

[turbid nova]

the one time I've had showman be useful: two hermits in arcana pack

[rustic haven]

now u trade for poly showman

[patent sail]

narcissist

[turbid nova]

I lost the run but like

that was cool

[celest cobalt]

genuinely what am I supposed to do
i cant beat e17

[stark acorn]

not even useful if it isn’t a mega though

[patent sail]

showman once copied wee for me that was kinda funny

[rustic haven]

showman gives me double copy jokers

[celest cobalt]

the highest I go is e14

[patent sail]

but thats about it

[rustic haven]

lose

[cosmic sun]

If Showman is so good where men

[celest cobalt]

why

[patent sail]

he is the man

[rustic haven]

because you fell off like tfue

take the L

[patent sail]

he shows copies of himself

[turbid nova]

Finally here's vouchers

[celest cobalt]

i couldnt do anything
unless I got like a negative trebuchet

[rustic haven]

trebuchet

[turbid nova]

Imagine if Showman could show repeat boss blinds

[celest cobalt]

my goat

[patent sail]

sock and buskin

[rustic haven]

or repeat vouchers

[celest cobalt]

*2 all face cards

[celest cobalt]

whats that

[rustic haven]

yes i know what tribulet does

[celest cobalt]

isnt he the best

[rustic haven]

no

[celest cobalt]

grrrr

[turbid nova]

some of them wouldn't work but there are some interesting implications

[patent sail]

its

triboulet

[spring radish]

Multiplayer be like

[celest cobalt]

ive only unlocked one legendary joker so far

[rustic haven]

i used american spelling

[patent sail]

though i just call him Fatass

[celest cobalt]

so im assuming theres crazier stuff out there

[turbid nova]

asteroid???

[pale wolf]

tribullet its a powerup in touhou

[frank grove]

how good is 4 buses roffle heavy ass title

[patent sail]

im crine vro out there playing dark mode balala

[spring radish]

imagine playing light mode

[celest cobalt]

do i just start a new run

i cant see this run die

[pallid galleon]

W dagger value

[cosmic sun]

"Desert bus"

[pale wolf]

its uhhh -2 levels highest level planet for the opponent, and they cancel eachother out if they both have one

[exotic silo]

Burnt Joker start is actually not bad with a Hex, it served as the source of Chips and +Mult as I pelted the blinds with glasses and steels

[patent sail]

my DISCORD is in light mode rn

[cosmic sun]

Wait a minute I have a desert bus run

[pale wolf]

or something

[spring radish]

i don't know how invis works but im pretty sure i haven't kept invis that many rounds....

have i?

[celest cobalt]

can I do anything with the order my jokers are placed in which could save me?

[patent sail]

no its all x2

what wpuld swapping anything around do

[celest cobalt]

precisely

but all a man can do is ponder

[patent sail]

just die i guess iunno thats all you can do now

[celest cobalt]

what would you have done

maybe ill never play again

[patent sail]

could find blueprint/brainstorm

[cloud sinew]

pivoted to a baron+mime build

[celest cobalt]

that way ill stay alive

[celest cobalt]

whats a baron
whats a mime

[patent sail]

GOOD

[celest cobalt]

whats that

[patent sail]

KEEP NOT KNOWING

[pale wolf]

this is the same run as your first win?

[celest cobalt]

i started today guys

[turbid nova]

blissfully unaware

[celest cobalt]

😭 😭

[vestal copper]

true...

[celest cobalt]

yesterday

[patent sail]

great jonklers

[pale wolf]

pretty neat

[celest cobalt]

yessir

[turbid nova]

son my record ante is 13 how are you on 15 on your first day

[exotic silo]

burnt and duo scored by themselves so I took three unstickered jokers to sticker them

[calm sapphire]

you doin som wrong bro

[celest cobalt]

i got skills

[turbid nova]

I don't like endl*ss

[calm sapphire]

fair

[celest cobalt]

i had mime in my shop
i let it go

[pale wolf]

double trib sock dusk is very power, and they have a lot of deck digging in 6 hands 4 discards

[calm sapphire]

it requires a special type of autism

[patent sail]

good

[pale wolf]

trib is basically idol that can't miss

[patent sail]

how long ago did you get that sock?

[turbid nova]

yep

[celest cobalt]

whats a sock 😭

🧦

[pale wolf]

can we like read the things on our screen

[patent sail]

sock and buskin

[pallid galleon]

only one hand left... yall think i can make it???

[stark acorn]

trib is the cooler photograph

[celest cobalt]

i know trebuchet

[turbid nova]

balalo players can't read

[pale wolf]

I think you're trolling

[celest cobalt]

i know slie joker

soy

sly

[pale wolf]

soy joker im dead

[pallid galleon]

soy jak er

[celest cobalt]

im not

pls help me

[pale wolf]

I don't even care if you're trolling you just said soy Joker and that made my day

saved

[primal heath]

Does mime retrigger reserved parking?

[celest cobalt]

what if I skip blind

[pale wolf]

Yes, but only on succeeded attempts

[celest cobalt]

is there a way to access shop again

[pale wolf]

And it's just a one in two chance again

mime 1.5x the output of parking instead of 2x

[pallid galleon]

they should fix that bug fr

[celest cobalt]

what does mime do and would it have worked on my build

[pale wolf]

unless the card held in hand would have been triggered anyways, like with steel

[pale wolf]

Not exactly a bug

[exotic silo]

what a start

[pale wolf]

I think you should just play the game and unlock your collection instead of asking what every single Joker mentioned in chat does

[celest cobalt]

are all legendary cards as powerful as trombulet

[pale wolf]

This is getting old

[pallid galleon]

i see

[celest cobalt]

my friend told me theres a yoreck

[turbid nova]

Honestly not really at this point unless you had lots of steels

[celest cobalt]

no steels sir 😔

[glass creek]

Yoreck

[pale wolf]

https://balatrowiki.org/w/Jokers

[turbid nova]

You can really only get far in endless with super specific builds

[celest cobalt]

i guess ill just let my game die

[patent sail]

ker: hi

[turbid nova]

So your run was very impressive all things considered

[celest cobalt]

i dont even know the build capabilities
i only have like 20 jokers unlocked

[humble gulch]

Soy joker: gifted power
Scribbly joker: pure effort

[floral mural]

i honestly recommend just playing the game and exploring it

[celest cobalt]

but that means ill lose this run

maybe i should never play again

[bleak blaze]

Better find that Egg

[celest cobalt]

so i keep the run

[floral mural]

losing in a roguelike is normal?

[patent sail]

and dont pick up ante 1 baron no matter what he tells you, hes a glorified steel card

[pale wolf]

they didn't even lose they're on ante16

[floral mural]

me when the run based game is not designed for one run to last forever

[weary whale]

I switched from two pair to high card build 6 antes in and still won on Purple Stake

[bleak blaze]

Idk why people say they get mad at losing in this game

My brother in christ YOU GET TO PLAY MORE BALATRO!?!

[celest cobalt]

whats the highest to go

[humble gulch]

Me when I can't beat the highest dificultty with 9 hours of playtime

[pale wolf]

oh my God I walked to work and now I have to finish walking.... should I never walk again???

[floral mural]

honestly dont bother worrying about endless

just go for ante 8 wins for now

[turbid nova]

And focus on unlocking your collection

[floral mural]

the game is far more interesting in ante 8 runs than endless which are always very similar builds

[celest cobalt]

oh is that where you get the "win" achievement

[bleak blaze]

Spend 2 hours shitting in the bathroom on company time as protest

[floral mural]

yes

[celest cobalt]

alright guys
IM PULLING THE PLUG

[stark acorn]

throwback 🤢

[bleak blaze]

One of the acgievements in this game is literally losing 5 runs

[turbid nova]

That is the craziest first run I’ve ever seen

[humble gulch]

It makes flushers feel better

[pale wolf]

oh dang I don't have that one yet

[celest cobalt]

i got that
i wasnt going beyond ante 3
then i got lucky when i got trembrulee
and i made a crazy plan

[bleak blaze]

[weary whale]

Throwback is literally one of the only 5 jokers I’ve won Gold Stake with

[pale wolf]

so, once?

[celest cobalt]

alas
it was good while it lasted

[bleak blaze]

Whats funny on my other GS account it wasnt until I black staked every deck until I got that one 😭

[humble gulch]

I hate Triboulet

[bleak blaze]

Suffering from success

[stark acorn]

unless you’re like actually DYING for Xmult

[celest cobalt]

how dare you

[stark acorn]

I don’t get it

[pale wolf]

you went through all the stakes again???

🦓 more patience than I

[bleak blaze]

I like the progression of this game, it's satisfying af

[stark acorn]

[humble gulch]

In gold stake is worst legendary, it doesn't mean it's bad but it's the lest reliable

Tho I hate Tr*b with all my guts

[bleak blaze]

The humble Perkeo

[humble gulch]

At least he gives me pairslop ❤️‍🩹

[pale wolf]

I like doing the unlock requisites in gold stake runs but i dont care much for not being able to see the jokers before i unlock them

[humble gulch]

Perkeo is a straights joker

[bleak blaze]

Perkeo is infact a joker

[waxen quartz]

perkeo is sandbox mode joker

[stark acorn]

Perkeo hermit

[hearty tusk]

is Chicot unironically better for goldstake than trib or are people just delusional🤔

[stark acorn]

print money

[bleak blaze]

Perkeo Justice with Glass Joker is also fun

did that last night

[waxen quartz]

but I also look on trib as a free win no matter the stake/deck (outside abandoned)

[pale wolf]

its not an ironic statement, boss blind effects are the killer most of the time

[humble gulch]

Just dupe 30 saturns

[hearty tusk]

true

[humble gulch]

Best use of Perkeo

[bleak blaze]

Yes if were talking about immediate utility, then yes by a wide margin

But like everything in this game

It all depends on the build

[stark acorn]

by far the most consistent so yea

[pale wolf]

i dont see how trib is a free win if you still dont have any value generation, any planet levels, and/or any retrigger jokers

[weary whale]

Triboulet, Chicot, Yorick and Canio are for winning runs in this game.

Perkeo is for defeating God in this game.

[humble gulch]

Because it isn't

[stark acorn]

free 10 bucks

that’s 2 dollars of interest

[hearty tusk]

lmao

[stark acorn]

pretty good

[earnest flame]

Ankh on madness is free win

[humble gulch]

You forget that Chicot literally kills gods

[bleak blaze]

COOK

[weary whale]

You got me there

[pale wolf]

oh also... plant

[bleak blaze]

Perkeo is only an insane scoring joker with 2 specific vouchers

[celest cobalt]

no alarms and no surprises, please
🥹 😟 😔 🥺 ☹️

[pale wolf]

so you also need reroll voucher

[bleak blaze]

"OMG I GOT A PERKEO" then spends 12 antes finding telescope and observatory

[pale wolf]

That's what I call 👏

a bad legendary

👏

[hearty tusk]

so then the most reliable Legendary for GS besides Chicot is...

drums

[earnest flame]

I was told earlier today that perkeo is giga value because you get one planet or 20$ every round

[pale wolf]

yorick despite blue stake

[naive frigate]

Vouchers lowk need to have rarities

[hearty tusk]

Yorriiiiick

[weary whale]

Was literally just typing that

[humble gulch]

Perkeo is just a worse vagabond without copying jokers

[celest cobalt]

its over

[bleak blaze]

Do not say that after I spent 16 antes looking for overstock

No we dont

[celest cobalt]

but its never over

🥺

[waxen quartz]

if your goal is to beat ante 8 by a factor of a trillion, you need observatory. if it's just to beat ante 8, perkeo copying a planet gets you most of the way there with 1 joker slot

[pale wolf]

perkeo is minimum +$4 pre-interest per round

[bleak blaze]

Holy shiit cook

[pale wolf]

thats value

[stark acorn]

remove magic trick from the game

[humble gulch]

Perkeo is +20 mult

[weary whale]

So basically in Blue stake & above, Yorick earns x1 mult every 2.5 rounds if you discard as much as possible

[earnest flame]

I'll rather take scoring that just straight up wins the game (canio/rick)

[pale wolf]

me too i dont like perkeo much

[humble gulch]

Free value

Free xmult

[bleak blaze]

Money also allows you to buy scoring options

No money = no buying jokers

no jokers = no score

[pale wolf]

remember folks, hook scales yorick

[hearty tusk]

ITS NEVER OVEEEEEER🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

[bleak blaze]

no score = lose

[celest cobalt]

MY KINGDOM

[pale wolf]

use this for retcon-assisted yorick record

[celest cobalt]

🥺 🥺 🥺

[earnest flame]

Yes if you ever see them, so I rather take the ones that already give that, or chicot that just almost wins the game

[humble gulch]

Yorick is a better madness, and madness is already incredible

[lost vault]

hook can technically activate trading card :3

[pale wolf]

I know

[lost vault]

oki

[pale wolf]

multiple times even

[stark acorn]

can’t hook trigger purple seals

[lost vault]

but some people dont!

[pale wolf]

ofc

[lost vault]

:3

[solemn flume]

Also descales Ramen 😭 but does activate TC and Rebate >:D

[pale wolf]

its discarded

very specific circumstances for trading card to be fair

[earnest flame]

Can't decide if trib or perkeo is worse, both are trash legendaries (but still very strong)

[humble gulch]

No, he'll discard your blue seals first

[pale wolf]

perkeo >>>>

[lost vault]

it isnt strictly better but it does scale faster

[pale wolf]

yorick sucks if you are trying to get garbage tag WR 🦓

[hearty tusk]

Perkeo is still better

[bleak blaze]

Plus madness is way more fun to play with than Yorick

[hearty tusk]

for GS, i mean

[earnest flame]

Better than what

[solemn flume]

Shoutout to hook always removing my damn steel cards like ayo bruh the hell I do to you

[hearty tusk]

than Trib

[lost vault]

if you say so

[bleak bolt]

should i drop carto or dna for brunt

or neither

[pale wolf]

last time i was against hook i was playing stm and it sniped every single scoring card every single hand

it was wild

[earnest flame]

Trib is just photo but somehow better and somehow worse at the same time

[hearty tusk]

how wild

[weary whale]

Superposition, 8Ball, and Seance are the worst jokers IMO

[hearty tusk]

wild card wild?

[pale wolf]

L

[bleak blaze]

L takes

all over the place

[hearty tusk]

8ball no, maybe Seance

[bleak bolt]

superpos and 8ball can be useful but seance is a different tier of bad

[primal heath]

8ball is great

[lost vault]

trib is not really like photo at all

[bleak blaze]

8 Ball haters whne they realize chad exists

[pale wolf]

8ball rocks

[bleak blaze]

They LOVE Using it with photo

Never 8 ball though

Strange

[hearty tusk]

Where did you find them?

[frank grove]

8 ball haters when bloodstone: 🤤

[solemn flume]

Tbf Chad's lowkey one of the strongest enablers in the game

[bleak blaze]

8 ball haters when they see a wheel of fortune in the shop

(same odds)

[pale wolf]

chad is so cool and versatile and not even broken trust

[humble gulch]

Do I just try to force a Perkeo in red deck so I won't suffer with legendaries anymore

[hearty tusk]

i cant not take a wheel tho

[pale wolf]

why red specifically

[solemn flume]

Chad is remotely not broken at all yeah exactly >:D

[humble gulch]

GSG

[pale wolf]

but what does that do for you

[lost vault]

8 ball haters when their glass card breaks (same odds)

[bleak blaze]

has thunk hinted at any joker rebalances for the new update?

[humble gulch]

Be able to get other legendaries

[pale wolf]

not at any specific joker changes besides matador for sure and likely idol, and no clue at what theyll be

[solemn flume]

Idol? Damn 😭

[floral mural]

isnt perkeo like good

generally

[hearty tusk]

well yes

[pale wolf]

idol is the pinnacle of trash design in balatro, it was meant to be useful in ante 8

[floral mural]

i got locked with soul on trib

[bleak blaze]

Thank god for matador.

I was thinking rebate should be knocked down to $3 or moved to an uncommon because it's too damn good with blueprint and brainstorm

Literal money farm

[pale wolf]

it almost certainly will be(knocked down in $) but I haven't heard anything specific from thunk that wasn't a joke

[bleak blaze]

But im not the dev

[humble gulch]

Is econ, but it won't make your run a lot easier

[floral mural]

rarity changes dont fix a joker being overtuned

[pale wolf]

he has mentioned nerfing rebate as a joke though

[frank grove]

moving rebate to uncommon doesnt make it much worse just less common it would still be a very good joker

[floral mural]

but econ does do that i thought

more money more stuff you can get to strengthen your build

[humble gulch]

Yeah, but it's not that good

[bleak blaze]

Exactly, its nerfing the odds of finding it rather than adjusting the stuff you get from it

[pale wolf]

I think it's probably worth keeping it on perkeo since you can actually predict what the soul is going to have

[bleak blaze]

As a common its too crazy man

[pale wolf]

unless you're going to save scum, random chance souls are pretty iffy

[humble gulch]

Alright

[bleak blaze]

As an uncommon it makes more sense

[frank grove]

But as an uncommon it would be even better?

what

bbc value

[celest cobalt]

im on ante 2
should I buy this hierogilph
i cant understand what it does

[humble gulch]

No, please

[primal heath]

seance gives a spectral when you play a straight flush.

[celest cobalt]

hieroglyph

[solemn flume]

-1 ante just rewinds time basically

[pale wolf]

uncommon chad would make me sad and also all retrigger jokers would be uncommon which is lame

[celest cobalt]

so its not worth losing my hands?

[weary whale]

Oh I got it confused with Sixth sense for a second

[floral mural]

chad while a bit above average i lowkey dont want nerfed

[bleak blaze]

Whats so hard about trying to discuss "balances" is that this game is balanced so well compared to other games LMAO

[light oak]

what should i sell for invis?

[cloud sinew]

trading card used to give you $5, damn.

[pale wolf]

the money is honestly for flavor, it could be $1

[weary whale]

At this point no

[bleak blaze]

Campfire giving 0.5x instead of 0.25x

[cloud sinew]

thats a fairly well known difference

also trading wasnt changed in 1.0.1f

[peak lion]

How do I get a setup broken enough to get me to ante 12 or at the very least get past ante 10

[floral mural]

it could actually cost a little money and still be perfectly good too

[peak lion]

(I never get past ante 10)

[floral mural]

consistent deck thinning is no joke

[pale wolf]

I've said in the past trading card would be worth if you had to pay the $3

[floral mural]

anyways immolate removes 5 cards and gives you 20 dollars at once so its busted

[pale wolf]

idk if i stand by it now but it is something ive said

[cloud sinew]

<=$0 makes it so much worse to take in the early-mid game

[weary whale]

It’s not something you can make reliably happen. It’s rare to get an unseeded run past 10 without serious work and luck.

[humble gulch]

I already have 100 dollars, bruh

[median grove]

is chicot good on ante 2? if im trying to get naneinf

[peak lion]

Gotcha. Looks like it'll take me a while to none to get that "get to ante 12" voucher lol

[cloud sinew]

eh

[floral mural]

not hating on thunk but some of the design around card removal feels like it treats destroying cards as always terrible

[humble gulch]

Okay

[cloud sinew]

unless youre able to get invis or ankh off on it, you're likely not going to get much use out of it

[median grove]

do i sell for riff raff value

[cloud sinew]

no

[floral mural]

keep it until you need the slot most likely

[median grove]

why??

[celest cobalt]

i keep losing on ante 2
i hate new runs

[cloud sinew]

chicot can be very useful still

[floral mural]

its boss safety that lets you greed much more

[pale wolf]

between trading card erosion and immolate I feel like thunk thought card removal would be detrimental somehow

[unborn cliff]

goodbye photo!

[lost vault]

chicot is not that bad gang

[weary whale]

Yeah. I just happened to luck out with a godly set of Jokers to get there.

[light oak]

with the sole exception of green deck of course

[floral mural]

erosion is balanced still tbf. but the rest not so much

[cloud sinew]

i also think that card addition was overvalued

[floral mural]

in basically every deck builder removing cards is insane

[unborn cliff]

blue joker

[cloud sinew]

not at all

[pale wolf]

between hologram and

[pale wolf]

marble eugg

[cloud sinew]

standard packs, marble

[median grove]

what? but what if i get hanging chad

[pale wolf]

thshsbdus marble ugh kill it

[light oak]

what should I sell for invis

[pale wolf]

I mean standard packs had to be in the game

[humble gulch]

HUH

[pale wolf]

quintessential

[weary whale]

Let’s see your deck

[unborn cliff]

photochad is not good on ante 2 on plasma deck

[cloud sinew]

their appearance rate is too high considering their value i think

[floral mural]

standard packs are actually fine tbh. youre basically paying 4 dollars for the chance at any card that isnt a basic one

[cloud sinew]

especially considering blue seals used to be horrific

[floral mural]

and is actually worth

[median grove]

but for naneinf i feel like its pretty good

and reliable

[unborn cliff]

wow a flash card

[pale wolf]

well I think part of it is also shop bloat (intentionally)

[floral mural]

old blues were random planets or something? what was wrong with them

[unborn cliff]

😂😂😂😂

"photochad" "naneinf"

[vestal copper]

lmfao

[floral mural]

old balatro is an era i wasnt there for but old wildfrost? dude i have the image of the stupid infinite combo lmao

[cloud sinew]

old gold stake + old orange stake + old blue seal effect.
-1 handsize, packs cost +$1 every ante, and blue seals gave a random planet

[pale wolf]

i wonder if next update theres gonna be a deck that reintroduces the planetarium

[weary whale]

Definitely get rid of photograph, you only have 13 fave cards and it only triggers once per hand. You’ll have a chance that invisible hits Cavendish, Bloodstone, or Hanging Chad.

[cloud sinew]

nebula rework tbh

[floral mural]

old gold stake sounds like the most bullshit thing ever holy

[unborn cliff]

we don't talk about old yorick

[pale wolf]

would be fuego

[cloud sinew]

old yorick isnt relivant to what im talking about

[unborn cliff]

old balatro

[vestal copper]

what is old yorick

[floral mural]

why is nebulas in games like consistently really boring. nebula deck here and nebula belt in kirby air riders both make me wanna sleep

[median grove]

brother ive gotten to ante 20 and used photo chad to get baron mime

lal

[unborn cliff]

x5 mult after discarding 23 times

[unborn cliff]

doesn't scale

[pale wolf]

you were high card photochadding? interesting

[cloud sinew]

i'm talking about why standard packs weren't really balanced well

[unborn cliff]

so you're gonna carry around photochad for 18 antes

[weary whale]

I mean it’s way better in the short term, but sucks long term

[unborn cliff]

doesnt sound like a very good naneinf run

[cloud sinew]

what

no it isnt

it's worse in the short term and worse in the long term

[pale wolf]

It's the same average rate

[cloud sinew]

current Yorick is 23 discarded cards

[unborn cliff]

yeah bro getting 1 mult to 8 mult is real good right now

on plasma deck

[humble gulch]

I bottom decked so hard

[cloud sinew]

old Yorick was 23 discards

[median grove]

hows your reading comprehension?

[unborn cliff]

is this the smartest balatroer

[floral mural]

was old blue stake still less discards

[cloud sinew]

can u both stop bitching

[turbid nova]

23 discards for x1 mult?

[weary whale]

OH ok. Yeah now I see why

[cloud sinew]

yes

[cloud sinew]

23 discards for 5x

[floral mural]

12 ROUNDS TO EVEN ACTIVATE IT?

[turbid nova]

But it stood there doing nothing beforehand

[median grove]

so does saying i used photochad to get baron mime mean i had photo chad for 19 antes? 🤣

[cloud sinew]

it was 100% the worst legendary

[turbid nova]

So if you got him in ante 5 blue stake and above he did nothing 😂

[pale wolf]

...yes? more or less

the early antes of endless runs is kinda irrelevant

[cloud sinew]

why bring up ante 20 if it wasnt relevant then
"brother ive gotten to ante 20 and used photo chad to get baron mime"

[unborn cliff]

you said you got to ante 20 and used photochad to find baron mime

[turbid nova]

And now he’s the best

[cloud sinew]

generally yeah

[turbid nova]

Yorick my goat

[unborn cliff]

perkeo literally has naneinf potential every time you get it 🤓🤓🤓🤓

[median grove]

because photochad is actually decent on antes 1-8 while you are actively deckfixing for naneinf

[unborn cliff]

trib scales by powers of 2 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[pale wolf]

i cant belief yorick is gonna go into the new blue stake meta as is

[minor portal]

nearly every joker has naneinf potential with enough copies of it

[median grove]

i got baron mime bp and bs and used baron mime to get up to ante 20

can you read

[unborn cliff]

what are the chances that the meta doesnt change at all after the blue stake rework

[turbid nova]

Retrigger merchant

[unborn cliff]

you didnt say that

[cloud sinew]

0

[pale wolf]

you know what, sure

[unborn cliff]

what are the chances that pairs are still meta

[cloud sinew]

no

[cloud sinew]

if nothing else is changed, it would still be meta.

[turbid nova]

naneinf with jimbos

[unborn cliff]

flash card can naneinf with infinite money

[cloud sinew]

no it cant

[minor portal]

2 to 1 currently

[turbid nova]

There’s an integer limit to money and it can’t get to the naneinf value

[pale wolf]

there's a nonzero chance thunk makes blue stake "-1 discard and also discards are pink now"

[turbid nova]

Also why bull can’t naneinf

[bleak bolt]

what else is there i can do to score more

[unborn cliff]

why are you so fucking negative all the time

[fervent wolf]

Ectoplasm used probably

[cloud sinew]

i'm disseminating misinformation

[unborn cliff]

ohhh ok

[minor portal]

Misinformation is one of the only reasons I'm on the balatrocord for

[bleak bolt]

yes it can with infinite time

[pale wolf]

this reads

1. ive gotten to ante 20
2. at which point i used photochad to get baron mime

[unborn cliff]

new blue stake: -1 hand
new red stake: -1 discard

[unborn cliff]

let me lie to people

[turbid nova]

I would uninstall

[minor portal]

true...

[cloud sinew]

it can't. because of precision loss of floating points, you can't add more mult to flash card or gain more money at a certain point.

[unborn cliff]

balatrodle in 5

[unborn cliff]

jimbo can naneinf with enough of them

[minor portal]

superposition can naneinf trust

[cloud sinew]

can you stop lying

[unborn cliff]

superpostion will give glass and with infinite hands you will eventually reach naneinf

[weary whale]

THIS IS A JOKE SUGGESTION DON’T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY

Platinum Stake (Above Gold); Base Chips and Mult for played poker hands are halved for the entire game

[unborn cliff]

4 + infinity is infinity

[ruby vessel]

I’ve noticed that u can get the skip tag that gives extra vouchers in ante 1. Outside of yellow deck is there even a way to have 20 gold by the end of the ante assuming u skipped hence only played two rounds

[unborn cliff]

flint stake

[median grove]

do i get rid of riff raff if im trying to get naneinf?

[weary whale]

Exactly

[minor portal]

If there were an infinite amount of jimbos drawing an infinite amount of hands, eventually they would naneinf.

[cloud sinew]

yes

[modest snow]

mail in rebate

[cloud sinew]

no they wouldnt

[minor portal]

you have little faith

[median grove]

no

[turbid nova]

bye bye riff

[unborn cliff]

infinite monkey theorem

[cloud sinew]

the max mult you could get while adding +4 is 2^56

[modest snow]

what

[cloud sinew]

after you reach 2^56, adding 4 rounds down because of precision loss

[minor portal]

those who misunderstand a statement

[median grove]

but is runner enough of a scoring joker to get me to ante 8? and pivot to baron mime

[unborn cliff]

infinity + 4 is infinity

[turbid nova]

In plasma yeah

[bleak bolt]

troub for showman?

[cloud sinew]

infinity isnt a number

[unborn cliff]

neeeerdddd

[ruby vessel]

Oh yah I forgot abt that. I’ve seen it a couple times and thought it was ridiculous but I was watching a skip tag tier list and it was pretty high up so I figured there’s def a use case

[unborn cliff]

yeah

[glass creek]

No it's infinity + 4

[unborn cliff]

ohhh ok

[bleak bolt]

paid off

[glass creek]

🎉

[unborn cliff]

be greedy and wait for another blueprint/brainstorm

[bleak bolt]

too late

[unborn cliff]

fuuuuuck

[light oak]

would it be smart to take the dna

[pale wolf]

checkers naneinf revoked

[turbid nova]

I used to think this was wayy better than it actually is

[bleak bolt]

lol

[ancient gyro]

vacation jumpscare

[turbid nova]

Like I thought if you play multiple debuffed cards you get $8 for each one

[cloud sinew]

i think matador is underrated by a lot of people

[turbid nova]

It’s not terrible either

[pale wolf]

It's probably better than you're thinking right now

[turbid nova]

But a lot of the time I just take it and sell it 2 or so rounds later

[ancient gyro]

peak in the house

[cloud sinew]

it's annoying to figure out and it's not consistent, but if you check the boss and it procs against it then you should definitely consider taking it

[pale wolf]

Matador isn't the kind of Joker that I will keep if the next boss blind won't do it

which kind of sucks for an economy Joker

[cloud sinew]

#⚙・modding-general / BMP discord

[bleak bolt]

but you wont see the ante 1 vouchers after the boss

[unborn cliff]

cuba?

[tardy spade]

I didn't want to join the bmp discord

[earnest flame]

Did someone say photoslop is a good setup for naneinf on plasma?

[bleak bolt]

oh fuck

[ancient gyro]

punta cana

[unborn cliff]

close enough

i think

[bleak bolt]

i have the reroll voucher but didnt even read the boss

[unborn cliff]

idk geography

[bleak bolt]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HIoiTZNWoAARAme.webp

[cloud sinew]

then ask in #⚙・modding-general

[unborn cliff]

gif.xitter

[unborn cliff]

dodn't read the boss award

[bleak bolt]

does nobody else see the embed

[median grove]

is scary face better than runner here? for a naneinf attempt

[bronze leaf]

Wish that were me 😞

[cloud sinew]

probably not

[pale wolf]

why

[unborn cliff]

runner scale scary face no scale

[median grove]

okay thanks

[tardy spade]

Because joining a discord is a whole process

[pale wolf]

Google link
click link

[unborn cliff]

balatro players when they enter a library

[minor portal]

You can play any card and have it score while you're there.

[ancient gyro]

two buttons

[bleak bolt]

sell negative credit card to disable the boss

[lost vault]

meoaw

[pale wolf]

maybe the official website for the mod in between that

[ancient gyro]

5 days since last login 📵

[bleak bolt]

nice run anyway i unlocked arrowhead too

[harsh elk]

Hi

[lost vault]

meow meow

[unborn cliff]

"hey balatro player what do you do when you see a boss blind"

[lost vault]

read

[bleak bolt]

select blind then read perchance

[tardy spade]

You join and it's like "You're in preview mode, join the server to start chatting". So you join and then it's like "Let's customize your experience" and you're stuck there for several minutes choosing roles which don't matter for a server you'll be spending less time in than you spend customizing your experience

[unborn cliff]

yeah i'd like to solve the puzzle

[tardy spade]

It's not worth my time

[waxen quartz]

also don't be scared of anything in plasma white stake. runner + copy def clears ante 10 trivially

[tardy spade]

Modding general works fine though

[unborn cliff]

you can just add like 1 role and move on

[bleak bolt]

[tardy spade]

If only it was that easy

[minor portal]

Ten minutes is a lot to save if you think about it

[pale wolf]

I'll go join and check back

[minor portal]

It would be just horrid if you spent any more time than that doing something

[unborn cliff]

discord users when the discord server wants to be customizable for their members instead of feeling like 1984

[ancient gyro]

that or a boom scare of 50 dollar steam gifts

[cloud sinew]

if you're playing BMP it would probably be useful to be in the BMP discord though, especially as matchmaking is done through there

[tardy spade]

There's better ways. Don't force it down their throats upon first joining. Hide it away in the Channels and Roles somewhere

[bleak bolt]

get a speedrun timer

[tardy spade]

I'm not playing bmp

[cloud sinew]

what is PvP if not BMP

[unborn cliff]

this individual may be onto something

[pale wolf]

there was literally one singular question asking me if I wanted to see some non-english channels

[unborn cliff]

whats the issue

[pale wolf]

wrong reply

[unborn cliff]

like what are u having trouble with

[ancient gyro]

too much work

[tardy spade]

It was resolved in modding chat, it's fine

[median grove]

is this a decent naneinf attempt?

[unborn cliff]

okay

[ancient gyro]

not enough jingle keys

[unborn cliff]

bro its ante 5 i dont know

[tardy spade]

Other servers have had more though

[median grove]

anything i should be loooking for / obviously get rid of for naneinf?

[minor portal]

yeah you almost got it already

[bleak bolt]

i remember being banned from a server for mentioning the 50 steam gift lol

[glass creek]

One too many smh 😔 💔

[bleak bolt]

probably will suffer consequences here too if i include the $

[pale wolf]

also
what

[light oak]

would it be smart to sell cavendish for lucky cat here?

[unborn cliff]

probably look for baron mime red seal steel/gold kings and 3 blueprints and a burglar and the retcon voucher

[minor portal]

Balatro makes people hate reading, this is known information

[pale wolf]

why is that their banner

[glass creek]

It works

[minor portal]

they're professionals

[unborn cliff]

i hated reading so much i memorized what every card does so i can identify them by looks

[pale wolf]

I could make something that looks better on my phone while driving

[median grove]

okay thanks

[median grove]

is this sarcasm

[pale wolf]

what does he do

[cloud sinew]

i already dont like reading

it came free with my dyslexia

[unborn cliff]

+10 mult if hand contains a two pair

[ancient gyro]

if mad then why smiling

[turbid nova]

the lipstick is chips or mult and the cards at the bottom shows what it does

[unborn cliff]

internal

[minor portal]

perchance.

[cloud sinew]

he has the "smiles when angry" quirk

[turbid nova]

the real challenge is: name all of the these types of jokers

don't look it up

[pale wolf]

why do people look at the lips instead of the much more obvious hat

[cloud sinew]

i could definitely do it

[cloud sinew]

orange

[pale wolf]

what like the fruit

[cloud sinew]

i suppose so

it is orange after all

[unborn cliff]

here's my take

[pale wolf]

papyrus

[cloud sinew]

papyrus

[unborn cliff]

yeah

[pale wolf]

can you put it in Cooper Black please

[unborn cliff]

ok

[cloud sinew]

wait

why dont they make it m6x11

[pale wolf]

copyright /s

pretty sure it's released for personal use

[pale wolf]

why is it stroked

[cloud sinew]

m6x11plus my beloved

[unborn cliff]

low quality monitor

i dont know

[pale wolf]

This is more satisfactory

[glass creek]

Nah, this is

[pale wolf]

also the image should be in .bmp

[pale wolf]

I just realized what this is reminding me of

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[ebon condor]

ok

[pale wolf]

Not what I heard

[ancient gyro]

closer to the general area I look at when talking to someone

[frank grove]

tryna smooch mad joker?

[pale wolf]

Even the collar is more of a giveaway than the lip color to me

[serene forge]

andy you took over a minute to react to that

you are washed

[turbid nova]

the lipstick color is more intuitive

[ancient gyro]

can a man shower goddamn

[serene forge]

no

[turbid nova]

it's the same as jimbos

[ebon condor]

the correct solution is to just memorize which each one does individually

[turbid nova]

and the others are blue for chips

easy

[frank grove]

what about baseball then?

[serene forge]

bruh

no it is not

I didn't even notice the lip color before you mentioned it

[cloud sinew]

the lipstick colour doesnt even help me distinguish if its chips or mult

the # of tails on the hat does

3 for mult, 2 for chips

[turbid nova]

it's blue or red

[ebon condor]

lipstick color isnt intuitive wdym. greedy's lipstick is orange what does this mean

[pale wolf]

if anything though, I want all of the front pagers to swap their hats with their chip/mult counterpart
because then it will mesh better with the odd Todd/ even Steven paradigm

[cloud sinew]

sin jokers but for chips would be a pretty good addition imo

[turbid nova]

I'm just talking about the hand specific ones bc they look similar

[ebon condor]

well then Jimbo would be wrong

[turbid nova]

arrowhead

[serene forge]

gluttonous lips are green, this means gluttonous does nothing if you have high contrast on because clubs are blue

[pale wolf]

The top row doesn't have chip counterparts what are you guys on

[turbid nova]

this is what I'm saying

[cloud sinew]

1 joker, only for spades, is uncommon.

[turbid nova]

yeah

[ebon condor]

good enough for me

[serene forge]

how many chips per hit

[turbid nova]

do you really wanna worsen the common pool further tho

[serene forge]

like 20 maybe?

[cloud sinew]

25 i think

considering even : steven is 31 chips : 4 mult

[pale wolf]

Right now Steven is the same as the sinful Jokers, so like
30 to match Todd?

[ebon condor]

todd is 31 and theres more odd cards than cards of a specific individual suit

[pale wolf]

Todd is obviously 31 because odd

[cloud sinew]

steven is +4, sinfuls are +3

[pale wolf]

oh I am broken

[serene forge]

steven gives 4 lol

[pale wolf]

slain

[turbid nova]

scary face is 30 chips

[serene forge]

why did they nerf sin jokers anyway

[pale wolf]

too much flush

[cloud sinew]

thunk doesnt like flushes

[serene forge]

based

[pale wolf]

I mean

he did make checkered deck

[turbid nova]

I can tell

[ebon condor]

riddle me this batman why do the sin jokers give less value per card when theyre harder to proc

than steven

[serene forge]

had to attract players somehow

[cloud sinew]

theyre also more boss vulnerable

[pale wolf]

I think it's easier to get A flush Than a full house or a five of a kind

[cloud sinew]

one of those is true

[turbid nova]

it is and that's why they scale worse

[earnest flame]

You would expect space jonkler to proc at least once in 15 triggers but I guess that is too much to ask

[cloud sinew]

tis the nature of RNG

ive had space not proc 26 times in a row before

[ancient gyro]

more tarots enable more singular rank inflations

[turbid nova]

and you got the suit changing tarots on top of that

[ebon condor]

well its easier to get a hand that has 5 procs, but harder to get a hand that gets 2 or 4 procs

[cloud sinew]

i wouldnt say so

[serene forge]

happens

[ancient gyro]

there's more even ranks than a specific suit by default

[earnest flame]

On the very first throwaway hand he decides its lift off time

[ancient gyro]

more fib ranks too

[serene forge]

you have to pick up space jonkler and shake him around before playing a hand

that will wake him up

[cloud sinew]

truuuue

fib my beloved

[serene forge]

hated by sponkler itself