🕹・game-discussion

[serene forge]

repeater crossbow

[pale wolf]

plasma repeater

[viral raft]

i just realice that ONE pixel in the Glass joker is 207 of transparancy instead of 205

this makes me really mad for some reason lmao

[plain hearth]

dont use plasma, white stake yellow

[viral raft]

try to go chip based jokers to win

things like Stuntman, odd todd, banner, scary are good

[plain hearth]

yall wouldnt understand peak gameplay anyways

[uncut trail]

One more question for scaling, does an x mult happen before or after the balance effect? I'm assuming before but idk

I'm currently building chips rn and its doing ok

[plain hearth]

the balance comes last after everything

[cedar sable]

wtf

anyways hi

[viral raft]

Why are you making this 😭

[viral raft]

hi

[pale wolf]

fun

[cedar sable]

ohgod doc's online

[pale wolf]

he's online often

[haughty condor]

bro I had a crazy idea

[pale wolf]

the internet is his job

[haughty condor]

for a video

how good is 5 copies of credit card

[viral raft]

he casually text here sometimes

dk

[pale wolf]

-100 spending cap

[haughty condor]

gorilla: wassup

[solemn flume]

Use a credit card to spend off debt on another credit card

[viral raft]

they can't stack for what i know

[pale wolf]

they do

[cedar sable]

glup

[viral raft]

really?

[pale wolf]

yeye

[cedar sable]

I'm scared of doc

[haughty condor]

how about 5 copies of invisible joker

[pale wolf]

???

[cedar sable]

"how good is 5 invisible jokers"

[haughty condor]

next roffle or bean video im calling it

[solemn flume]

Dawg he wore Bluey pants during his run on Ludwig's GDQ thing, I don't see how you find him menacing

[cedar sable]

his skills

gluuup

[solemn flume]

Ok that makes sense

[haughty condor]

circle decks

new joker: circle joker

[frank grove]

orbs

[solemn flume]

Anaglyph goes pretty hard for some reason

[haughty condor]

im calling it now localthunks adding circle joker to 2.0

guys wait I have an idea

if we have invisible joker then we should have visible joker who doesn't copy anything when you sell him

[pale wolf]

round joker, all playing card chips are rounded up to a multiple of 5

[viral raft]

roffle videos are like "how good is 5 (generic white stake joker)?" and "THIS BUILD IS AMAZING (and is a build that has like 3 boss counters)" theres no in-between

[knotty zodiac]

0.0314 xmult permanently per hand played

[haughty condor]

at least they're entertaining

[uncut trail]

Got it done

[viral raft]

true, my fav balala youtuber with Doc

[uncut trail]

Thank you, I figured building chips would work

[pale wolf]

actually im taking this one for real

so op

[haughty condor]

imagine if he did pairslop gameplay 24/7 🤢🤢🤢

[cedar sable]

yesterday

[uncut trail]

If anyone is curious, I just went pure pair build with chips and it was enough to get me to the finish line. It's too dogshit to go anywhere in endless though lmao

[cedar sable]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[viral raft]

you don't need to do pairslop 24/7 to win White stake i can asure you

[pale wolf]

if theyre so entertaining how come i dont watch them 😎

[haughty condor]

no duh

[solemn flume]

Still thinking of Doc's Cryptid video

[pale wolf]

(i watch other youtube slop)

[haughty condor]

everybody knows flushes scale really well!

[knotty zodiac]

meanwhile streakers here:

"10 square bus constellation pair builds you'll love"

[cedar sable]

glup

[haughty condor]

why do people who use square joker or bus willingly

[viral raft]

don't forget Hologram!

[haughty condor]

when the handsome groker is right there

[pale wolf]

winningest

[viral raft]

because they're common ans easy to scale

[uncut trail]

what a silly lookin fella

[haughty condor]

I know i was making a groker related joke

[cedar sable]

ggs on merry andy

[haughty condor]

he's a nice fellow

[cedar sable]

+3 discards -1 hand size

rebate synergy

[haughty condor]

doscard

[solemn flume]

One of my favorite jokers, even if he's uh.... not great

[uncut trail]

doshcard????

[manic vault]

why not

[cedar sable]

this is why i hate everyone

[haughty condor]

they aren't as handsome as groker

[haughty condor]

ho ho ho

[cedar sable]

no I'm reverting my take on harder stakes back

for that

[viral raft]

statistically theres a high chance that Doc has opened this chat and saw stuff like "YURIII" or the most braindead shit about balatro

[haughty condor]

I'm watching beans video where the player switches every ante and I'm watching doc play he just sold poly idol and negative blueprint for hermit value I want to end it all

[uncut trail]

few more unlocks to go

[warm herald]

I was finally able to unlock my lacking joker Stuntman 🥹

[haughty condor]

I know it's bait why am I still mad

[haughty condor]

the power of photochad

[uncut trail]

I think the next one is the gold card one, I'm surprised I haven't done that yet

[haughty condor]

ticket?

[solemn flume]

Bro's gotta stack the hermit smh

[haughty condor]

I hate ticket because if you aren't building into like baron or something it's hard to get by accident

like naturally

[warm herald]

So real !!

[cedar sable]

here goes another -1 vote in red seal post

[uncut trail]

Yeah. I think with midas mask I can get it done though

[haughty condor]

definitely

[uncut trail]

I can do the haha silly vampire synergy

[cedar sable]

like we said red seal is the worst seal

[uncut trail]

seals are cute though

[cedar sable]

hollup

@viral raft can you see the red seal post

[frank grove]

I can see it

[cedar sable]

do it

i wanna see how bad it become

[scarlet girder]

anyone know why this happens? my hermit suddenly turned... purple.

[frank grove]

its -1.1k now

[cedar sable]

omg LOL

[frank grove]

😭

[cedar sable]

1.1k photochadders

[compact gazelle]

let me guess someone on the subreddit posted about red seal being the worst seal?

[frank grove]

it was about if red seal should retrigger discard effects like rebate/yorick/castle

[viral raft]

why?

hold up

[safe geyser]

i’m like new to the game and i’m seeing these people have such high card games with baron and duplicating so many kings and i don’t understand how they create so many is anyone able to explain

like i know of some tarot carts that can be good but what else

[frank grove]

many copy jokers and dna

[safe geyser]

i feel i’m not able to shave as fast

dna

and copy jokers

i have to search those up

[viral raft]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/s/vJPA5hnOjK @cedar sable

[rain temple]

its so counter intuitive but I am tempted for it

[viral raft]

-1.1k show how braindead is the R/balatro

[safe geyser]

can i ask what copy jokers are

are you referring to blueprint

[frank grove]

blueprint and brainstorm

yeah

[safe geyser]

okay i see

i had that in my last run where could i send a clip

[pale wolf]

effects that would be affected by red seal discards: rebate, hit the road, yorick, castle, ramen
not included: faceless, burnt, trading card (i think), green joker, purple seals (obviously)

[frank grove]

I think if red seals did work with discards it would be a little neat buff

[pale wolf]

re: trading card, red seal high card doesnt retrigger todo list

[frank grove]

yeah

[frank grove]

imagine high card red seal 6th sense 😭

that would be very silly

[safe geyser]

how was this hand is there any jokers or anything you would change

[pale wolf]

Wait why did I mention to-do list on the list

[safe geyser]

and how was the placement

[pale wolf]

I was already thinking about trading card at that point

[pale wolf]

https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/

[frank grove]

I think the joker placement is right there? cause no red seal kings, and generally just deck fix more so you can get more kings in hand if you go for baron mime again

[safe geyser]

okay i’ll keep that in mind

[cedar sable]

wild

[safe geyser]

that’s what i struggle with the most besides early game

once i get past it and am in later i find it impossible to shape my deck

i’ll keep practicing and hope my luck also gets better

thank you 🙌🏾

[frank grove]

Purple seals are really good, and other tarot gen in general

[pale wolf]

whats constellation

[safe geyser]

it added .1 mult for every planet card used

it was at like 7 or something idk

[pale wolf]

no whats it at 😭

kkey

7 is huge

[safe geyser]

yea i had a huge money farm at the beggining got lucky with constellation, half packs price and planet cards appearing more

so i just bought like everyone i saw

i think it’s called constellation

it’s the one where you get your guaranteed highest level

so i was playing flushes mostly at start and tried to pivot to high card

[pale wolf]

assuming high card levels

[safe geyser]

bru

[pale wolf]

if flush levels then the flush is better

with full constellation

[safe geyser]

i wish i had more pluto levels

[pale wolf]

i just mean for highest scoring joker order

[safe geyser]

my highest was score with no steel on a flush had two glass cards and was 90 million

[pale wolf]

planet levels is the question

[safe geyser]

i didn’t think it was going to be enough and so i swapped the baron last second since i had no steels in hand if i played the flush

[safe geyser]

uhh

[median needle]

Unscramble this joker:
ryatcf ekorj

[frank grove]

yeah playing a flush full copying const is better by a lot right?

[safe geyser]

repeat in like terms a new player could understand

[pale wolf]

ok so

[safe geyser]

i started like 5 days ago i still don’t have all jokers either

[safe geyser]

wow

so i could’ve won

[pale wolf]

it was full copy constellation because the flush base mult was so much higher it was worth it

and constellation is huge

[safe geyser]

ohhhh

so by putting blueprint first and constellation second baron will copy blueprint

wait

i didn’t have that hand

[frank grove]

no but youre on checkered you should be able to find a flush

[safe geyser]

i guess i didn’t use my discards smart then

i have to get better at that for sure

that causes me to lose a lot mid game

[bronze maple]

random perkeo ig

[pale wolf]

??

i copied it exactly

[safe geyser]

no

[frank grove]

you did have that hand yeah

[pale wolf]

oh shit I had an extra King

[serene forge]

@icy hollow -1090 after 24 hours

[frank grove]

you played a glass 6 of hearts

[pale wolf]

let me see if that makes a difference

it doesnt

[frank grove]

yeah

[pale wolf]

pretty close tbh

doesnt clear next round

[serene forge]

change checkered deck hearts to clubs

[pale wolf]

c+ should have alternate deck versions

[serene forge]

true

[frank grove]

that would be neat

[serene forge]

abandoned deck has 12 face cards and nothing else

[pale wolf]

incredible

[frank grove]

😭

[bronze maple]

erratic deck is perfectly normal

[serene forge]

and erosion gets +160 mult just for existing

[rain temple]

plasma deck just adds chips to mults

[frank grove]

erratic shuffles all the buttons in the game around

[uncut trail]

yall ever buy a temperence in the shop really early for +1$

[pale wolf]

erratic being a pure vanilla deck with nothing special as the very last deck in the game would be awesome

erratic-

[pale wolf]

nuh uh

erosion would suc

[bronze maple]

erosion is based on starting deck size

[rain temple]

then I would love black deck cuz its just blue deck

[serene forge]

I know

im saying they should change it

for that

[frank grove]

black deck is blue deck but -1 joker slot

[serene forge]

painted deck has 6 slots and 6 handsize

[frank grove]

ewwww

[serene forge]

that would be quite horrific

lmao

[frank grove]

psychic ante 1 😭

cant ever take stuntman 😭

[serene forge]

anaglyph alt does something

(anaglyph does nothing currently)

what would alt ghost be

starts with ankh?

[frank grove]

starts with wheel 😭

[serene forge]

true

[rain temple]

how about starting a game with double tag and being able to buy tags on shop or smth stupid I dont know

green deck doubles the interest but remaining hands dont give anything

[bronze maple]

:fear:

[safe geyser]

i wouldve clearned that though

next round i couldve done better easily

[pale wolf]

red- 1 hand 7 discards base
blue- 7 hands 0 discards base

[rain temple]

nebula deck is just +1 consumable slot but disable telescope

[safe geyser]

what

[rain temple]

makes it worse magic deck

[pale wolf]

magic deck- should start with omen globe and 3 copies of the fool

[serene forge]

change checkered deck hearts to clubs

[serene forge]

golden needle on gold stake hell nah

[rain temple]

plasma deck would be the worst here

[safe geyser]

why though

[humble gulch]

Sacrifice deck: selling a joker gives 5 extra dollars, blinds don't give any money

:3

[frank grove]

what would alt plasma do?

[rain temple]

adds chips to mults

instead of multiplying

[serene forge]

hearts are disgusting

clubs are better

checkered deck is already good but i hate hearts and they are cring

[humble gulch]

Balances out money, chips, mult, round and ante

[safe geyser]

but i hear good things about bloodstone

[serene forge]

no you don't

[safe geyser]

okay

😭

whats opinions on zodiac deck

im looking at different decks

[serene forge]

good

[frank grove]

better and more interesting shops

[safe geyser]

what would you say is yall fav deck

[humble gulch]

Is nobody going to give their opinion?

[frank grove]

abandoned by far

[safe geyser]

what hands do you aim for with that

[frank grove]

i play so much abandoned deck its kinda gross

[frank grove]

if i could choose and force straights on every run i would but i only play gold stake so its a lot of pair sometimes

[versed sable]

would be very wonky since buy->sell is money positive now?
but idk
it'd probably work

[lost vault]

purple deck

[versed sable]

plasma is the endless mode funny
i don't really play anything else anymore

[humble gulch]

Rental shop one is a free win

[versed sable]

real

[safe geyser]

okay i see

[frank grove]

but sometimes i get runs like this

[safe geyser]

what hand do you play with this one whats your strat

[pale wolf]

just change it to chip+mult

[pale wolf]

and make the score requirements match so its just the same game

[safe geyser]

and this one is one i didnt understand what does it do

[lost vault]

i play three pair

three pair is goated

hard to play but its so strong

[versed sable]

score = ((mult + chips) / 2)²

[safe geyser]

purple deck as in?

[versed sable]

add chips and mult to eachother

then divide by two

and that's your number for each

[safe geyser]

intresting

[versed sable]

+chips and +mult are just +score; until you start doing xmult

[humble gulch]

I mean, you would need to open the pack for a minimun of 6 dollars, then you sell the joker in the shop assuming is 4 dollars and you ge to 12, but if you want a joker you have to rerol bringing you to 7, the money would go really fast by rerolling

[lost vault]

purple deck

[lost vault]

no thats plasna

[safe geyser]

so its a lot more points

[versed sable]

i think a big issue might be that you're just sitting there praying for jokers in the shop

[lost vault]

depends

[pale wolf]

purple deck is where purple joker lives

[safe geyser]

theres no purple deck name

[lost vault]

wdym

[versed sable]

blinds are 2x and it's generally considered one of the hardest gold stakes
but the highs are a lot higher (100 chips and 2e10 mult -> 1e10 chips and 1e10 mult = 1e20 score)

[lost vault]

purple deck is my favorite

:3

[humble gulch]

I don't know math, selling a joker with 2 sell value would put you in 7 dollars

[safe geyser]

oh i see

[pale wolf]

weird

[humble gulch]

I guess you could just get all eternals and just die

[pale wolf]

we love rough gem

[versed sable]

find cheap joker(s) early = free money!
don't find non-eternal jokers and you're even poorer than black deck and you lose immediately

[humble gulch]

Gambling!

Let me think of a solution

[versed sable]

feels like a challenge deck but it does overlap with the egg one

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 2

[serene forge]

least stupid abandoned deck run:

[frank grove]

i have so many weird idolchad runs on abandoned 😭

[humble gulch]

Go Idol chad on checkered

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 2

[modest mist]

First Photochad!

(Idk if I need to change my lineup)

[icy hollow]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

All the newer replies are supporting u tho lol

[serene forge]

true

[humble gulch]

But like, just Idol...

[frank grove]

i only have like 3 screenshots of checkered 😭

[humble gulch]

I love grim

[safe geyser]

is there a requirement to unlocking dna or just finding it

[humble gulch]

Just find it

[safe geyser]

okay ty

[humble gulch]

Lol

HUHUĤUUUU

[rain temple]

I have just lost with negative swash egg poly bull stencil joker run because of the vessel

it was a gold stake and none of them had gold stickers

Im mad

[marsh vortex]

yknow what sure man

all in on photochad trust

[frank grove]

oh .. okay

[marsh vortex]

why must the photochad be my destiny

and square joker i guess

[quick solar]

genuinly where is this antimatter wtf

im ante 24

[uncut trail]

I stole it

sorry

[quick solar]

sob

illusion before antimatter are we fr

[humble gulch]

Brute force clears (I had 7 hands)

[quick solar]

oops all plychrome

[humble gulch]

Fuck no

Lol

[quick solar]

is antimatter genuinly gonna be my last voucher

[humble gulch]

Okay

BRO

[quick solar]

showman wouldve been really nice IF I HAD AN ANTIMATTER 😭

[humble gulch]

8 jacks round 5

[quick solar]

erm

do i take it

nothing would be good tho

probably not

ill take the temperance tho lol

[visual turtle]

Tomorrow for sure™ I will play balatro

[quick solar]

finallyyy

ox made me loose all my money...

[versed sable]

you had retcon

[quick solar]

...

[versed sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1117703665705291827/1466009319844614278/6ab91d9266414dba86532b2ee08f61b9.gif?ex=6a0e2e52&is=6a0cdcd2&hm=1aa6685a677b3af0867d58d861615a547c03020b93212ae512d1cc0aafa064b0&

[quick solar]

i might be stripiod

stupid

yeah that money would be nice rolling for a showman rn...

dusk would be fine too cause i dont think ill get anymore joker slots

[upper spade]

I never knew that Jimbo on the starting screen will have his stake tag too.

[quick solar]

and im free

didnt think id ever get this far ngl

if i dont find dusk like rn tho im dead to blinds i think

[worldly aspen]

dang

[humble gulch]

Guess what hand I were playing

[worldly aspen]

im doing the medusa challenge right now and its kinda easy with this setup

[humble gulch]

Medusa is free

[worldly aspen]

three of a kinds

[upper spade]

The only non-natural Joker here is The Tribe.

[worldly aspen]

i was close

i played one stone card

i feel like this run could go for a bit

[bleak hemlock]

paws air cutely

[modest mist]

?

[upper spade]

I think the game wants me to have a Spectral.

[worldly aspen]

i dont think changing the lineup will change anything

[echo owl]

everyone talks about brainstorm blueprint yuri but what about odd todd even steven yaoi

[bleak hemlock]

the hell?

[quick solar]

CUDKWNLT

[bleak hemlock]

weird insult

[worldly aspen]

is this a seed and if so what for

[bleak hemlock]

💀

[quick solar]

the run i just played

[worldly aspen]

was it good?

[quick solar]

ante 31 with stone cards

id say so

[worldly aspen]

i got ante 11 with stone just now

i think you cursed me

[quick solar]

"stone cards"

[worldly aspen]

i lost

holy

[worldly aspen]

i actually usead stone cards and had like 100

[quick solar]

how much extra score did the stone evn give me

[worldly aspen]

a decent bit i assume because it gave chips

[quick solar]

5 bp 1 bs + nat neg chad

i was on plasma so

[undone raven]

Hey guys I'm new is this good?

[quick solar]

1.5^10 for first card * 1.5^8 for last 4 cards

[modest mist]

How's this setup?

(Should I sack Fib?)

[quick solar]

about 1500x

not terrible

[undone raven]

Pretty good

[quick solar]

if i had a dusk it would be

per card is 2 base triggers

• 8 triggers per card

[quick solar]

oh this is wrong

[quick solar]

about 17000

[undone raven]

I mean fib isn't doing all that much, right?

It's flat mult after the multiplication

[modest mist]

Idk if my formatting is right

[quick solar]

with dusk it would be about 25000000

[modest mist]

This is my current lineup

[undone raven]

Seems good to me

[modest mist]

Should I reorder them?

[merry garden]

idk why, but see my first run

[humble gulch]

Kind of, Perkeo isn't doing much and I guess canio is also doing much

And you should've just leveled up a easy hand to play like pairs

[undone raven]

I'm trying to get as many discards as possible for Yorick so the difficulty of hands don't matter

Plus I have my deck fixed for flushes

[quick solar]

they matter for blue seal value

[merry garden]

i think its better to use blueprint with the banana

[modest mist]

Doesn't matter bc Gros Michel went extinct

[merry garden]

and after the banana destroy change

[humble gulch]

Nope

[merry garden]

gros michel*

[modest mist]

This is what I have to work with now.

[humble gulch]

Just copy photo

[merry garden]

yep

[modest mist]

So my current layout is good, then?

[quick solar]

copy chad is more money

[frank grove]

yeah for max score yes

[quick solar]

actually copy bc

[modest mist]

Sweet

[humble gulch]

I don't think photochad alone clears

[frank grove]

if you want money on random face high cards copy bc

[quick solar]

its 14 chances vs 9 chances

[modest mist]

Seltzer is the obvious pick, yeah?

[humble gulch]

Gg

[quick solar]

yeah its alot of money if you can play face cards

[tall sapphire]

triboulet at home

[humble gulch]

Okay

Bro

[modest mist]

Thanks for the help, guys

"ooh copy bc"

that strategy cost me the win

I can't seem to win Green Deck

Because clearly, you guys just like setting me up for failure

[humble gulch]

But like, copy photo again once you wanna win...

[scarlet girder]

is that white stake

[tall sapphire]

you could also do the contrary of we tell you and win

free wins

[modest mist]

Whatever

doesn't matter anyways because I don't win regardless

[modest mist]

no, it's gold stake, obviously

[scarlet girder]

isn't this the person that was complaining and then talking about how people hate them irl or am i thinking of someone different

[flat tiger]

you can high card/pair and still get most of the value instead of having to play 4-5oak

[tall sapphire]

yes the thing is my levels are trash

i have been getting nothing but Venus

[warm wedge]

pick a deck, any deck (no challenges)

[tall sapphire]

okay.

[tall sapphire]

black deck

[warm wedge]

ok

[tall sapphire]

i went from barely 10k from hand to 1 MILLION dude

NO FUCKING WAY I GET CAVENDISH

[warm wedge]

noice, js like i went from 30k to like 500k with trib

i think i should break it

showman showing me showman

[tall sapphire]

showman was designd with that stupid face so things like this happens

[fringe nebula]

why would you reroll when you don't even have $15 interest

[tall sapphire]

now the question of the century do i take this or not my deck is 17 hearts and 9 of other suits

i dont think i take it

but it would be funny

[humble gulch]

Gg

[fringe nebula]

no

[fringe nebula]

win

[humble gulch]

Real

Hi, Varv

[fringe nebula]

a new pfp again huh

stick to one for atleast 2 years will ya

[humble gulch]

Never

In fact, look

New pfp

[fringe nebula]

you have 0 vibe

[humble gulch]

I kinda didn't like it, let me find another one

[flat tiger]

even with 2 base mult you get like 6k mult, you already won

unless the plant i guess

[tall sapphire]

yep i won the run

and i got the plant instatly wow the game did not want me to keep playing

[fringe nebula]

runs past ante 8 don't exist anyway

[flat tiger]

one glass still clears

[fringe nebula]

go hold r

[humble gulch]

🐑

[humble gulch]

My favorite key

Lol

[modest mist]

I somehow got away with this

[humble gulch]

This is kind of bad

Nevermind

Free win

I really want that dagger

[fallow shadow]

bloodstone

[fallow shadow]

[humble gulch]

Dead

Nevermind

[fallow shadow]

ok but fuck yes on taking the dagger

[humble gulch]

HOWWWWWW

[fallow shadow]

indont know if i wouldve been brave enough

is it over

[humble gulch]

I played pair

[frank grove]

Woof …

Back to red 😔

[humble gulch]

At least I'm getting comforted by red deck

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[humble gulch]

Lowkey red treats me so well

[fallow shadow]

i like red deck

[serene forge]

skill issue

[humble gulch]

SEE?

[serene forge]

should I try gsg

[humble gulch]

Yes, it's fun untill nebula

[serene forge]

even black?

[spring radish]

anyone interested in playing balatro with 3+ players?
-# such as co-op, 2v2, FFA
ignore if no

[serene forge]

I've won on black deck like 2 times in my entire playtime

ip grabber

[spring radish]

._.?

everything is ip grabbing huh

[humble gulch]

Yeah, black is fun

It feels exciting as progress mark

(If you do it in order)

It feels like a boss

[serene forge]

posting random links is ip grabbing ye

[serene forge]

that's fair

[serene forge]

but then you have plasma as 2nd last

which is just

ughhh

[spring radish]

it really isn't._.

[modest mist]

Twice now, I have lost with Photochad.

[spring radish]

its literally a server channel

[serene forge]

get a glass card next time

[spring radish]

i just made it smaller so that it doesn't flood the chat

[modest mist]

Ah, if only I had options to do so!

[serene forge]

you most certainly did

I find it hard to believe that that seed had 0 glass cards in it

when you get a photochad setup you just need to find one justice card because plant is the only thing that can possibly kill you

and glass dodges that

[modest mist]

What sucks is I had to get rid of Pareidolia

[serene forge]

hmmmm

[modest mist]

The card in of itself was Baseball Card fuel

and it had polychrome

(Which wasn't ideal to lose, and the Plant went and ruined it)

[serene forge]

that is a little unfortunate, yeah

[modest mist]

So you can guess where most of my scoring went

[humble gulch]

Now pray for a constellation

[modest mist]

Down the drain because of this one boss blind

[serene forge]

photochad is still 8x, though

or glass chad rather

if your faces are disabled

[modest mist]

How was I supposed to know I'd be dealing with the Plant?

[fallow shadow]

if your photochadding you always gotta prep for plant

[modest mist]

Okay, well tbf, with how many boss blinds there are, I didn't grab any glass cards because I didn't take that into consideration that I'd be dealing with the one Blind to dismantle my run.

[fallow shadow]

its good to learn what boss blinds counter what strats so you can find some insurance early

[modest mist]

So NOW I'm told.

Would've been nice to know that beforehand.

[serene forge]

again

[fallow shadow]

yeah. youre always gonna be learning new things

[serene forge]

wait

[fallow shadow]

thats what comes with losing

[modest mist]

I'm not like hornet where I just have the seed information on standby

[serene forge]

how much have you played this game

[modest mist]

20.7 hours.

[humble gulch]

Got needled

[serene forge]

have you seen the plant a couple times before

[modest mist]

Yes, but at those times, I wasn't running Photochad.

[humble gulch]

Fuck ante 6 needle

[serene forge]

that's fine

its something to learn from

no biggie

[fallow shadow]

as much as it almost feels like a reddit type thing to say, the first photochad planting is basically a rite of passage

[serene forge]

yeahh

[modest mist]

Like, I've been taught to check to see what Blinds I'd be going up against

[humble gulch]

I sell photo as soon as I get scaling mult

[modest mist]

And I did that, and accounted for them

But the Plant caught me off guard

And the shops didn't do jack for me Ante 7

So I went into the boss with zero prep

Green Deck White Stake btw, and I'm STRUGGLING

Green Deck specifically js wants to give me a hard time

[void lintel]

green deck is kinda annoying without the interest, yea

[earnest flame]

Average stuntman gaming

[fallow shadow]

the more i use stuntman the more i like him

[fringe nebula]

exactly

you have to prepare 2-6 antes ahead before getting the plant

[earnest flame]

Not much in using stuntman, its just even more hc or pair spamming

[modest mist]

Again, I ask you, how do I prepare for something I wasn't aware of fighting?

[fringe nebula]

just add some glass enhancement on numbered cards

[fallow shadow]

its really just about learning whats in the game in general

[earnest flame]

Dont go all out on facecard builds before you have beaten plant or can reroll it

[fallow shadow]

you cant know if youll see the plant in a run, but youll know you can, and that it counters exactly what you have

[fringe nebula]

besides, I usually pair photochad with an unconditional scoring joker

[fallow shadow]

plants just one example

any build you have to learn what can stop it and how to prepare, which really just comes with playing the game more

[fringe nebula]

steel cards also work ig

[serene forge]

you can't

which is why its good you're aware now

[modest mist]

So you're basically telling me to prepare for something that has a 1/23 chance of happening.

[fringe nebula]

that is balatro in a nutshell

[fallow shadow]

basically yes

[void lintel]

i mean it happened, no?

gotta anticipate it

[modest mist]

Again, HOW was I supposed to anticipate it?

[fringe nebula]

you can't

[modest mist]

Nowhere did I think: "Ah yes, this run wold be the perfect time for PLANT to show up"

[frank grove]

Also you should always prepare for the worst not the best

[modest mist]

Much less ante 1

[proud dawn]

there are a finite amount of scenarios like this
over time you will learn what they are

[fringe nebula]

balatro will never give you what you want

[void lintel]

know that it exists, it can come up, and have a backup just in case

[fallow shadow]

thats how they get you

[fringe nebula]

(most of the time)

well, maybe sometimes

[upper spade]

I wanna grab it.
But I don't wanna sell anything.

[humble gulch]

Actually not having a backup it's most of the time just gambling

[fringe nebula]

this tbh

[modest mist]

Again, I ask you, in what situation do I make a backup for THIS?

[fallow shadow]

the games not just about maximizing scoring, its also about making yourself as safe as possible. thats the advantage of lower scoring but consistent hand types like pairs

its also why chicot is good

[fringe nebula]

ante 7 is late enough for you to have 1-3 numbered glass cards

[serene forge]

a situation in which you know that the plant can kill you

which you didn't know but now you do

it happens

[modest mist]

(I had Photochad, Acrobat, and Baseball Card. I did have Polychrome Pareidolia, which was obviously sold due to the Plant's effect)

[humble gulch]

It's also why builds that rely on card effects are inconsistent

[void lintel]

no use dwelling on the past, you are now aware of it and can prepare better in the future

[serene forge]

I love chicklets

[modest mist]

And waste even more of my time losing over and over again, just lovely!

[earnest flame]

You have one joker slot open and 34$, all that should have gone in the last shop if you saw you were screwed by the boss

[fringe nebula]

well, if that's how you think, then balatro will waste more of your time

just stop playing the game at that point

[echo sphinx]

two legendary

h m

[serene forge]

toxic yuri

[modest mist]

Again, what could I have done after opening the two booster packs? (They were both the planetary packs)

[humble gulch]

Me when I can't win in a game that's hard to understand after barely playing it

[earnest flame]

You can reroll the shop

[fallow shadow]

how much are you rerolling

[fringe nebula]

me when the game doesn't give me what i want

[echo sphinx]

uh oh

[proud dawn]

this is like rolling a die that kills you if you land a one, then complaining when you land a one that you couldn't have expected that
the point of balatro is doing what you can to not roll the die at all

[humble gulch]

Me when I don't get baron mime every run

[fallow shadow]

reroll more, especially on green deck where interest doesnt exist

[echo sphinx]

gang what do i do

i see hologram

[modest mist]

But shouldn't I conserve my money when needed?

[serene forge]

nuke the sub

[humble gulch]

It's early, just take chad

[serene forge]

sell sock get hologram

[fringe nebula]

green deck gives no money from interest

[tall sapphire]

which gold stake deck should i do; i have beaten one run on all of them, and i have completed Red Deck and Ghost Deck

[fringe nebula]

there's no reason to save money except for maximum hermit value

[knotty zodiac]

they probably think trib is the best legendary lol

[humble gulch]

I just spend everything on green deck

[modest mist]

What if I reroll and end up getting garbage until the last one, where I find a Joker that benefits me? Then I don't have any money.

[serene forge]

you can't improve your game without spending money

you need to find a balance

[tall sapphire]

i have blue stake and abandoned at my highest which one should i do first for gold stake

[humble gulch]

Then just don't

[fringe nebula]

eh, white stake is easy enough for it to be something that wouldn't happen

[humble gulch]

Every shop is a free reroll

[modest mist]

Y'know what, I'll js do it myself.

[knotty zodiac]

tbf green deck is pretty hard and swingy

[earnest flame]

You dont conserve anything if you are about to die to the boss blind

[humble gulch]

I never reroll if that reroll leaves me with no money, unless it's the shop before the finisher blind or I have JJ

[modest mist]

Again, I'll do it myself

[upper spade]

How to win:
M o n e y

[knotty zodiac]

ya gotta have enough money to buy a consumable or a rental at least

ideally a full priced uncommon too

[fallow shadow]

midas mask

[fringe nebula]

rental jokers on green deck stinks as hell

[echo sphinx]

you forsake money its purpose

[warm wedge]

ecto in the spectral pack

[warm wedge]

+20 mult for your dagger

[knotty zodiac]

early rentals on green are less bad than on others it seems

[modest mist]

This run already sucks.

[warm wedge]

• a bull + plasma

[knotty zodiac]

by midgame they start hurting a lot tho

[fringe nebula]

it isn't

[modest mist]

Like, do I even want to continue this?

[warm wedge]

i mean at least theres an ankh in the psectral

[echo sphinx]

my brther in christ this is playable

[warm wedge]

you want

[knotty zodiac]

4 fingers is really good

[serene forge]

me when I win

[tall sapphire]

who is the best legendary tho

my money is on Yorrick

[warm wedge]

like jimbo

[fringe nebula]

yorick and canio

[knotty zodiac]

yorick imo

[echo sphinx]

jimbob

[fringe nebula]

without a doubt

[echo sphinx]

(probably yorick)

[warm wedge]

finally someone gets it

[knotty zodiac]

definitely not trib

[earnest flame]

For gold stake I'll take a chicot any day

[humble gulch]

I like Canio better but yeah, Yorick it's the best one

[tall sapphire]

i like every legendary joker except perkeo i think he is overrated because of those naneinf clips

[serene forge]

LMFAO

[tall sapphire]

i mean he is interesting but like come on man

[knotty zodiac]

perkeo is very strong

[earnest flame]

Its not

[serene forge]

WHAT IS THIS

[upper spade]

I've never found any use out of Perkeo.

[echo sphinx]

😭

[humble gulch]

I just rather sell Perkeo and get something better early

[echo sphinx]

perkeo is only as good as you use it

[knotty zodiac]

wow ig im not with the consensus here

[fallow shadow]

fuck it. send it

[humble gulch]

Oh

[echo sphinx]

which is to say
perkeo is bad because you cant use its effect well

[modest mist]

Alright...what do I pick here?

[fringe nebula]

balatro sucks because I can't do trib sock run in every single seed 😭

[earnest flame]

On ante 8 runs its good but its not better than the other legendaries

[echo sphinx]

skill issue

[knotty zodiac]

perkeo is a free planet every round or $20 every round and it's copyable

[warm wedge]

get better bud

[tall sapphire]

i dont dislike trib entirely because that combo won me my second orange stake deck

[serene forge]

here win

[tall sapphire]

but like its not every day you will find that

[warm wedge]

won me a chekerd gold stake

[warm wedge]

perishable?

[humble gulch]

I hate trib with all my guts

I despise trib

[warm wedge]

what did trib ever do to u

[fringe nebula]

trib is a 2pair joker

[modest mist]

?

[upper spade]

Gold Jack.

[fringe nebula]

gold jack

[echo sphinx]

pruple lol its not even close

[humble gulch]

He tries to be good by being nat neg and giving me a high score in gold stake, but that won't change my opinion

[modest mist]

2 other people say otherwise.

[echo sphinx]

oh wait u broke

[earnest flame]

Yeah, once you get one for copying which is not always easy, and then its using one jokerslot for a singular planet every round, so basically a blue seal?

[warm wedge]

what did this ring sizer ever do to you

[warm wedge]

flush five

[echo sphinx]

yeah probably gold jack om

[fringe nebula]

no

[warm wedge]

flush six

[fringe nebula]

trib works better with 2pair

[modest mist]

I unlocked Certificate from picking up the gold seal gold edition jack.

[echo sphinx]

blinks

[warm wedge]

3 pair is bester

[warm wedge]

👀

[modest mist]

How did that happen?

[echo sphinx]

"triboulet is a fullhouse joker" someone i forgor

[fringe nebula]

A tier joker

[earnest flame]

Tell me how is perkeo this amazing super strong legendary when its effects are comparable to rebate or a blue seal

[upper spade]

This is how I'd personally rank all the Legendaries:

1. Yorick
2. Chicot
3. Canio
4. Trib
5. Perkeo

[earnest flame]

Its good dont get me wrong

[echo sphinx]

two tarots

death n hang

[fringe nebula]

1.yorick
2.canio
3.perkeo
4.chicot
5.trib

[echo sphinx]

rebate is your monis

perkeo is your flush five

[fallow shadow]

perkeo is pretty good. 4th worst legendary but its good

[knotty zodiac]

it does often take a few rounds to spool up but so does canio.

$20 per round for a joker slot is well worth. it's better than unfixed rebate

and one planet per round is about 1.5 blue seals, obviously less good once you have blue seals but then it pivots into $20/round

[fringe nebula]

"4th worst" is 2nd best

[fallow shadow]

annoying to setup but can pay out big. i barely use it with planets though bc blue seals are busted enough

perkeo is not 2nd best .... frowns

[upper spade]

Here's the thing I have against Perkeo.
It's very situational.

[fringe nebula]

is it

[humble gulch]

I hate Trib, but he keeps doing this to me...

[echo sphinx]

people that hate perkeo and people who hate 8ball are a circle in a venn diagram

[fringe nebula]

perkeo is a versatile joker as far as i can see

[knotty zodiac]

i dislike 8 ball and adore perkeo

xD

[echo sphinx]

and none of them know how strong value gen is

[earnest flame]

I didnt say it wasnt good but compared to the others its way weaker in ante 8 runs, both canio and yorick can be scaled to be super strong quickly, with perkeo you will never gain same amount of power

[fringe nebula]

even $4 per round is ok

[echo sphinx]

om 😭

[humble gulch]

Perkeo is good, it's just that it's not better than Chicot

[earnest flame]

Id rather take a 4x canio than perkeo copying planet cards one at a time

[upper spade]

I've never gotten any use out of it mostly because of the fact that, when I get him, I don't have a set up for him to be used or it's just not useful to me anymore.

[knotty zodiac]

canio is a lot more swingy than perkeo. with perkeo youre almost guaranteed $4/round. ive gone antes without seeing hanged justice immo before

[drowsy rain]

Chicot above perkeo on jimbo 🙏

[earnest flame]

Wow, so a golden joker?

[humble gulch]

Perkeo is a sell once he finishes his job

[knotty zodiac]

the value floor is way higher than canio which is just $10 sell value for sometimes many rounds

[earnest flame]

"Hey you only have to get temperance or death or hanged man upstairs and then copy them one at a time its real strong only takes 10 rounds to be actually super impactful" meanwhile yorick is rocking 3x and carrying you through antes

[echo sphinx]

yeah if you're shit at using him he's golden joker

[fringe nebula]

I guess chicot does give immediate value after you get it

[humble gulch]

90% of the time Perkeo is just a vagabond with money or a better burnt

[fringe nebula]

unlike perkeo

so yeah

chicot 3rd perkeo 4th

[knotty zodiac]

i never said perkeo is better than yorick. youre swinging at strawmen

[frank grove]

There is also the problem of a lot of the time you see legendaries later on in a run

[echo sphinx]

chicot giving immediate value is like saying deathing a purple seal in a tarot pack gives immediate value

[fallow shadow]

i knew it

[echo sphinx]

you cant play a run expecting it

[fallow shadow]

everyone settles onto the correct path eventually

[humble gulch]

I mean, Chicot it's absolute, it always works

[earnest flame]

You said perkeo is "very strong" which i take being very strong compared to other legendaries

[knotty zodiac]

i also said yorick is #1

[drowsy rain]

All the legendaries are strong am I missing something

[humble gulch]

You don't need to be lucky to find it in your deck, comparing playing cards to jokers is just a bad idea

[echo sphinx]

if the upcoming boss blinds sucks ass then probably

[knotty zodiac]

sry typo

[echo sphinx]

triboulet debatable lmao

[fallow shadow]

all of the legendaries are strong yes

[fringe nebula]

#🕹・game-discussion is being #🕹・game-discussion again

[humble gulch]

Impossible

[upper spade]

Debating between which is better.

[earnest flame]

What stake do you play

[echo sphinx]

gold

[fallow shadow]

even trib is strong, its weaknesses are just. very notable

[knotty zodiac]

hang on lemme post my run real quick. "what is this garbage"

4 fingers no stickers

[drowsy rain]

No no don’t be like that trib is verrry powerful, people just hate four of a kind builds for some reason

like everyone should be running way more 4oak builds

[echo sphinx]

no no not four of a kind its too normal

[humble gulch]

Trib is good, it's just the worst out of the five legendaries

[echo sphinx]

full house !!

think, chat

[earnest flame]

then you should realize that boss blinds are the main obstacle, and getting rid of them completely is almost a guaranteed victory for a gold stake player

[echo sphinx]

kng AND queen

[cosmic sun]

4oakers would probably disowned that fraud if they had the chance

[fallow shadow]

trib is 2 pair

[cosmic sun]

Trib belongs to them photochadders

And probably 5oak duskers

[drowsy rain]

oops! no base mult

[humble gulch]

Photochad is pairs

[upper spade]

All Legendaries (Maybe with Chicot as the exception) are situational. Let me say that.

[fringe nebula]

?

[echo sphinx]

i shit u not im a chicot fan and he saved like 2 runs

[drowsy rain]

don’t ? me I’m very !

[humble gulch]

That's a problem with every hand

[cosmic sun]

Chat offering low hanging fruit

[echo sphinx]

chicot is not the here win joker

[cosmic sun]

🤫

[fringe nebula]

just get some 2pair levels lel

[drowsy rain]

I was half being funny but now that I know it wasn’t any hand can just spam blue seal

[humble gulch]

Chicot it's a here, let me make your run a lot easier

I see it as a here win but anyways

I love Chicot

[echo sphinx]

lol true

one of them was here win

[tulip oak]

chicot is so good for 8 ante runs

[echo sphinx]

cuz i was playing triboulet

[frank grove]

Yeah chicot means you can pass using a lot valuable resources to make your build more boss compatible

[humble gulch]

Chicot makes trib good

[knotty zodiac]

trib: hey im better than photochad by 2x but you have to play a 4 card hand and i have no resistance

[upper spade]

The early ante 1 Chicot:

[cosmic sun]

Which is funny when Trib players often rate it lower

[echo sphinx]

insane sell value lmao

[drowsy rain]

i’ll make sure to roll into both next run

[fringe nebula]

you don't open arcana at ante 1

[cosmic sun]

Or do not acknowledge glass cards at all

[fringe nebula]

you prioritize buffoon

[cosmic sun]

Trib player type shi

[tulip oak]

skip tag🤑

[upper spade]

I do.
But getting rubbish Jokers is just money for me.

[tulip oak]

generally is yorick or canio better

[fringe nebula]

never take ante 1 charm tag 🗣️

[frank grove]

Yorick

[drowsy rain]

rick:

[echo sphinx]

ALWAYS take ante 1 charm tag, les go gamblinggg

[fringe nebula]

earlygame survival is alot more important

[cosmic sun]

Yorick for consistency

[upper spade]

You don't skip ante 1 UNLESS it's money;

[cedar sable]

hi balatro

[tulip oak]

rick: 1x mult

[cedar sable]

2 legends

[fringe nebula]

even if there's a chance to get bad roll

[cedar sable]

wild

[echo sphinx]

shit ain worth lol

[cosmic sun]

Obviously no one should just sell off Canio because Rick is better

At least most of the time

Now Trib is the one that gets sold off the most 💀

[knotty zodiac]

rare flush5 4s build

[tulip oak]

double tag 25 boss blind🥹

[upper spade]

When I say rubbish jokers, I mean things like Delayed.

[tulip oak]

im addicted to checkered deck

[drowsy rain]

1x mult every 23 hands

[tulip oak]

like i cant play anything else

[cosmic sun]

Though if we just talk Reddit gameplay then Trib would be kept and forced the most

[cedar sable]

what

[tulip oak]

besides anaglyph

[cedar sable]

23 cards discarded lo

[drowsy rain]

rick

[cedar sable]

not 23 hands

[knotty zodiac]

not the casual delgrat slander 😢

[humble gulch]

Actually it helps you to survive, the only legendary that's consistently a instant early sell is Perkeo

[cosmic sun]

Need to be tapped into the Reddit meta

[rain temple]

yo

[drowsy rain]

you’ve obviously never used rick before

[echo sphinx]

lost

[fringe nebula]

so what? I would still open buffoon pack anyway

[upper spade]

I've just never gotten use for it.

[tulip oak]

whats the reddit meta😭

[echo sphinx]

i greeded for 4s when i couldve used the hex

[cedar sable]

yorick is +1x every 23 cards discarded

[fringe nebula]

having a chance to survive earlygame is just that important especially on gold stake

[tulip oak]

my favorite run in this game was burnt joker brain storm stencil

[drowsy rain]

yeah, yorick

[tulip oak]

it was such a good combo

[rain temple]

delayed is fine really

[knotty zodiac]

idk if instant sell is correct. if you desperately need scoring within next 1-2 rounhs sure

[echo sphinx]

photochad baronmime

[upper spade]

What I mean is open the buffoon back, and if I don't get anything useful.
I'll sell it and try get something else to boost me.

[echo sphinx]

invis invis cola showman

[cosmic sun]

Photochad dusk flush bloodstone 5oak flush five sock and buskin trib parei

[humble gulch]

Yeah, that

[tulip oak]

perkeo blueprint brainstorm

[humble gulch]

I'd sell Perkeo for interest ngl

[fringe nebula]

never take ante 1 charm tag

[cosmic sun]

Oh yeah and the typical endless jokers I guess

[cedar sable]

what is charm tag again

[knotty zodiac]

when are you getting perkeo before $20 floor tho?

[modest mist]

Alright. Needle. What do I do here?

[echo sphinx]

seance

[drowsy rain]

ante 1 small blind voucher tag

[tulip oak]

judgement and soul in the same pack

trust

[echo sphinx]

just play normally lol youhave negative Dusk

[humble gulch]

Sometimes, open arcana praying for hermit

[knotty zodiac]

i wouldnt sell perkeo for $1 interest

[modest mist]

Oh yeah, true.

[echo sphinx]

selling perkeo for interest is like selling golden joker for interest

WHO DOES THAT

[rain temple]

I had a run where I cloned bunch of hermits with perkeo for my bootstrap/bull build only to take the wraith

[frank grove]

Idk I feel like if I get perkeo in ante 2 or something I could take it all the way I don’t see why I would sell for an extra dollar or two of interest that early?

[tulip oak]

me bro i need the money

[knotty zodiac]

you look for $15 hermit? pretty rare for me to look

[vale shale]

Good morning.

[cosmic sun]

Perkeo is still a value generator at the end of the day, granted it needs some value in the first place.

[echo sphinx]

THATS WHY YOURE BROKE

[cosmic sun]

But it's not abnormal to keep a value generating joker...

[modest mist]

How do we feel about Baseball Card?

[tulip oak]

THE INTEREST THOUGHHHH

SEED MONEY BOUTTA BE IN SHOP

[echo sphinx]

INTEREST MY ASS BRO JUST PRINT TAROT MONEY

[tulip oak]

i think its very fun to use

[modest mist]

I feel like I should replace Abstract if I take it

[vale shale]

It's better than abstract

[rain temple]

perkeo feels like a mod joker

[echo sphinx]

sorry unrelated screenshot

[frank grove]

Yeah I’ve done runs where perkeo just copies a planet

[cosmic sun]

I hope in these rankings people aren't idiots and actually take these jokers when they are SMART CHOICES TO TAKE

[rain temple]

the most legendary legendary joker

[echo sphinx]

WORST JOKER SUPERPOSITION

[tulip oak]

no

[humble gulch]

Also temperance, judgement, emperor or even a priestess

[fringe nebula]

absolutely take

[humble gulch]

Or devil

[drowsy rain]

balatro tier lists are wack unless you super generalize them

[fringe nebula]

literally a game winning joker in that scenario

[modest mist]

Replace Abstract?

[echo sphinx]

instnat take

[tulip oak]

superposition and magic 8 ball appearing in my buffoon packs bro

[humble gulch]

Maybe glass to enable glass joker

[tulip oak]

im tired of it

[rain temple]

it can be used in abandoned deck

[knotty zodiac]

hm ig you open arcana before i usually do. i think at $10 itd be tough decision about whether to sell perkeo

[echo sphinx]

sell four fingers or abstract

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[cosmic sun]

remove "balatro unless you super generalize them"