🕹・game-discussion

[light brook]

to anyone else curious about joker role requirements:

#🕹・game-discussion message

[echo owl]

Dear local thunk please give me joker role

[shell dagger]

ai?

[cloud sinew]

easily a couple hundred runs, likely way more

[lost vault]

guess ur not getting it

[light brook]

still ~45% is like a lot

[echo owl]

I’m jokin it doesn’t matter to me I don’t talk here much

[frank grove]

yeah 45 whilst trying gsg is very good

[cloud sinew]

:P

[warm wedge]

too bad im shit at having good econ

[lost vault]

:Þ

[cloud sinew]

i still had a fucking 70 loss streak on black gs

[shell dagger]

P:

[lost vault]

black moment

black DEKC

[light brook]

oh boy…

[echo owl]

I won gold stake black deck on my first try I am the chosen one

[cloud sinew]

im bewildered as to how I went from 11/18 to then losing 70 runs in a row before getting my next win...

[lost vault]

boy?? where

[light brook]

i have a around a 50 loss on yellow gs rn (i won on like the 10th but mobile bug made it not count)

[light brook]

under there

[lost vault]

yay

[cloud sinew]

61% -> 1.4% overnight

[marsh vortex]

man this deck is some BULLSHIT!

[cloud sinew]

and yes that 61% was on black deck gs 😭

i was playing insanely well

[echo owl]

Gonna go for a gold deck win streak cause gold deck is the best one

[cloud sinew]

and then i LOST IT ALL

FOR 70 RUNS IN A ROW

[light brook]

constellation mention 🗣️

[marsh vortex]

can this game give me a fucking lucky cat already i have 13 lucky card spades

[echo owl]

One time riff raff gave me photochad

[marsh vortex]

holy. fuck.

im gonna explode

[echo owl]

Zoo wee mama!!!!!

[lost vault]

meow keow

free bbc value

[marsh vortex]

free what

[cloud sinew]

this was the run i broke the streak with

[echo owl]

??

[lost vault]

:3

[echo owl]

Nvm I’m stupid

[light brook]

baseball card guys cmon

[marsh vortex]

oh AND blackboard is boosted by baseballcard

i hope next update actually BUFFS hone so we get 2x negatives

[light brook]

game of the year

[marsh vortex]

fuuuuck i need that

[light brook]

lucky cat, my second favorite mult scaler!

[cloud sinew]

wouldnt even affect the balance much, its just more fun

[visual turtle]

So umm

[marsh vortex]

exactly

[visual turtle]

Is having a 8.71% win rate bad

or

[cloud sinew]

as a new player, no

[light brook]

not really

[lost vault]

dont worry about it

just play the game and have fun

good or bad

who cares

[light brook]

mines about 10%

i’ve been playing for about a year

[fallow shadow]

ive never once in my entire life looked at my winrate and i never will

[lost vault]

same

[fallow shadow]

how it feels

[cloud sinew]

jerma

[visual turtle]

You wouldn't mind if I said I had 127 hours

[cloud sinew]

i wouldnt

[light brook]

what you don’t wanna see how trash you are at the game

[visual turtle]

okay phew

[light brook]

no that’s not bad

[cloud sinew]

you still have a lot to learn

[light brook]

people learn at different rates

[echo owl]

This was the final gold stake run I needed for C+

[visual turtle]

Wow I've played 2759 two pairs

[cloud sinew]

i learn something new every run still

[visual turtle]

but you're

c++

[frank grove]

c++ mostly doesnt matter

[cloud sinew]

with 1000+ hours

and im not even close to playing perfectly

this game is hard!

[fallow shadow]

spend any time here and youll learn someone having c++ doesnt mean they know everything

[cloud sinew]

so dont worry about losing tbh

[echo owl]

Is it bad if my gs win rate is 12% with like 200 hours (although I lost my progess at 40 hours and like thirty of those hours were leaving the game on in the background)

[visual turtle]

Alright

[light brook]

c++ is a milestone achievement and it shows how much you’ve grown (or played pairs) but just because you get it doesn’t mean you know everything

[visual turtle]

oh god
I've played this 80 times????

[earnest flame]

if you are happy with it then there is no issue

[cloud sinew]

not including resets, yes

[light brook]

like just because you win the world series doesn’t mean you’re the best baseball player

[echo owl]

This sounds like u think im bad

[earnest flame]

no, if you are actively beating gold stake with actual skill and not luck then you are already in the top 1% or even higher of the playerbase

that means you are good

[light brook]

i’ve been saying this forever
there is no “bad at the game” there is “i’m still learning”

[echo owl]

Ok cool

[earnest flame]

and that there will always be people who are better than you

[frank grove]

also if thats a profile you learned on thats actually pretty good overall

[marsh vortex]

EXACTLY

he's so true...

[echo owl]

I need to start applying this to everything

[light brook]

and there is no “good at the game” just “i have learned more”

[frank grove]

profiles ive done after i already did all stickers have a much higher win % than the one i first started gs on

[light brook]

it goes to literally everything in life

[vocal rose]

idk man im pretty good at balatro

[light brook]

good/bad is subjective, it’s moreso about what you think hits those milestones

[cloud sinew]

there definitely is such a thing as being bad at the game, but its relative, and comparing yourself to others isnt a good way of seeing how you have improved

[fervent haven]

At the same time certain skills do come more naturally to some

But that's a bad way to look at things in a game where you're supposed to have fun

[visual turtle]

What if (in general) you compare yourself to yourself and barely see anything

[cloud sinew]

going from 1% to 8% winrate is huge, but it doesnt seem huge if you compare yourself to people with like 20% winrates

[light brook]

bingo here’s the statement of the night folks

[fervent haven]

There's always a bigger fish

[earnest flame]

id say people who refuse to believe that balatro is not a luck based game and blame their struggles with the game to the game itself are bad players

[light brook]

balatro is a game of luck but it’s also about how you deal with that luck

so it’s both

this games is about fun, not win rates

[frank grove]

those people are still learning though, a lot of people start with that belief and eventually understand that there are tools that help to work around the luck components

[vocal rose]

well for alot of people those two intertwine alot

[earnest flame]

id say more like a game of how to avoid situations where luck is a factor

[visual turtle]

And then people like lucky cat

And bloodstone actually

[cloud sinew]

lucky cat is a fast scaler considering magician makes 2 luckies

[earnest flame]

even lucky cat has a certain expected value that almost never varies from that

[rustic haven]

does anyone know what e120 mult on plasma would be?

[cloud sinew]

bloodstone is constant RNG, lucky is scaling off of RNG

[viral raft]

balatro is a game that Luck can be used as main core in your build, that depends on you 100% if you want to use it, sometimes the game just says "nope!" but that doesn't mean is over, also the game is decided to be a build maker, most of times depends on you how do you want your builds, so if you lose, that's kinda your fault

[cloud sinew]

e240

[rustic haven]

so its usually just doubled?

[viral raft]

never compare my goat lucky cat with that shitty shitstone

[cloud sinew]

yes

[rustic haven]

ok ty

[visual turtle]

I see

[cloud sinew]

doubling the number of e's

[rustic haven]

oh right cuz even like

half of e120 is e120

idk why i was

halving the number itself thats not how those big ass numbers work

lmfao

[visual turtle]

What

[cloud sinew]

half of 1e120 is 5e119, the difference there is not worth mentioning. Which is why plasma is usually just double the es

[rustic haven]

ye

[earnest flame]

well half of 1e120 is 5e119

[rustic haven]

well yea

same shit with those numbers

but yes

[rustic haven]

youll see

dw

give it 100 hours

[cloud sinew]

1e12 just means 1x10^(12)

[earnest flame]

in other words 1 followed by 12 zeros

[waxen quartz]

balatro: luck part is the seed you get. the skill part is if you can make something happen with that seed

[rustic haven]

welp next ante is my death

since i got rid of my 3rd baron

[earnest flame]

no boss reroll vouchers?

[rustic haven]

no retcon

just director

[earnest flame]

still a chance for dna and a lucky serpent roll

[waxen quartz]

good news is you can afford to buy the 8 or so neg copy jokers if they're in the shop

[rustic haven]

ig

[waxen quartz]

then you naninf and flip off all the doubters

[rustic haven]

and waste money rolling for them?

[fervent haven]

It isn't that luck based tbf

[rustic haven]

i wish i didnt take the bait man

this is why i lose these runs

because i take baron ante 4-8

[fervent haven]

Yes there's rng but it doesn't decide if the run wins or loses

[rustic haven]

instead of like ante 15

[fervent haven]

Don't touch it until ante 12 at least, I usually don't until ante 18

[waxen quartz]

naninf 25 of your 47 white stake plasma run, then say that 🙂

[earnest flame]

the time for baron is a fluid concept

[rustic haven]

its not

[rustic haven]

i only take it if i have over 15 kings

which i did

and i got yk

[frank grove]

nan runs can come down to voucher luck a lot of the time

[rustic haven]

baron mime same shop without overstock

so

[terse vale]

well naneinf aint the point of the game

[rustic haven]

i felt obligated

[rustic haven]

quite so

[earnest flame]

is there an official point to the game?

[frank grove]

ante 8 boss beat

[waxen quartz]

early baron is taking up space that could be giving you $ or something. ante 6 on...if I'm not rich I'll take it if it shows

[brittle ocean]

What’s your usual build pre baron?

[rustic haven]

the point of the game is to play the game how you want

just like any other game

lmfao

thats why its a game

[waxen quartz]

photochad. idol is crutch 🙂

[lost vault]

yeah, theres an end goal, its called the ante 8 boss blind. when you beat it, a big screen pulls up saying "you win!"

[rustic haven]

idol is what you wanna build into

[waxen quartz]

doesn't mean you have to take it 🙂

[rustic haven]

thats

[fervent haven]

Have u done that?

[waxen quartz]

it also limits the amount of golden ticket abuse you can do

[rustic haven]

yes no shit

[waxen quartz]

hell no. I'm like 1/20

[earnest flame]

what is the point after that

[rustic haven]

no? you can play a pair or 3oak and still get away with it

[lost vault]

play higher stakes

[waxen quartz]

it's why I think the plasma naninf by eye % is pretty low

[lost vault]

play other decks

[earnest flame]

okay, c++ completed, is the game now complete with no points to reach

[fervent haven]

Someday I'll have 50%

[lost vault]

play other games

[fervent haven]

Just need better routing

[waxen quartz]

well naninf, what I want to see ante 12: the copy jokers. most of the vouchers. like $2k. deck almost fixed

[fervent haven]

The nice thing is literally every single run I fail I learn something

[frank grove]

other games, win streaks, self imposed challenges like deck only c++ or pairless or something like that

[fervent haven]

Ante 12 deck should be 99% fixed tbh

Most of the vouchers is optimistic

[earnest flame]

but never endless

[waxen quartz]

ya depends. sometimes 1 purp seal is all you need, sometimes not

[terse vale]

to get to the win screen

[fervent haven]

I take the first purp I see and death it as much as possible til it's 1/3 my deck

[frank grove]

the game isnt designed around endless, but you can do endless if you want to

[lost vault]

you can do endless if you want but its never really a focus of the game

[viral raft]

have you seen that "ante X/8" thingy?...yeah...

[rustic haven]

i have a strong feeling you are the type of player to reset ante 4 if you dont see anything "useful" for naneinf show up

[lost vault]

aside from the unlock for petro, which isnt really deep endless

[rustic haven]

you can go into the game find the point and still not gaf

aka do what i do

[earnest flame]

its still a part of the game, and doing stuff there is as relevant as any other arbitary goal in the game after c++

[fervent haven]

$2k is a lot for that early. I don't start saving til ante 14 tbh

[rustic haven]

i play white stake plasma 70% of the time

[waxen quartz]

more like ante 6ish. if I need scoring jokers then and $ is blah and I don't have the other things...moving on

[viral raft]

they should make more unlocks to endless ngl, same with challenges

[rustic haven]

have you even hit naneinf

[lost vault]

true, maybe. but theres plenty of other fun games out there once you've completed balatro

[rustic haven]

[frank grove]

Its a part of the game, but once you already do nan with like 4 methods its very much the same thing over and over again

[lost vault]

yup

[waxen quartz]

a time or two https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386889253258264627/1501691577997983774/Screenshot_20260506_170346.png?ex=6a0b7f44&is=6a0a2dc4&hm=ca74da229317fef0e073e3339eea04f0e602f0c2476726e22062c94d52a6fbcb&

[lost vault]

endless is samey and boring

[lost vault]

is there an oops

[fervent haven]

Perkeo shenanigans

[earnest flame]

just like doing c++ multiple times

[rustic haven]

perkeoless?

[frank grove]

well no

[fervent haven]

I've never naneinfed with perkeo

[lost vault]

not really

[fervent haven]

And I've naneinfed like 8 times

[frank grove]

doing c++ on black deck only is very different than doing it all on ghost 😭

[waxen quartz]

if had that you'd only need 32 jokers

[earnest flame]

what if you have different goals in endless

isnt that the same

[lost vault]

unlike endless, ante 8 runs have lots of variation and strategies that work

endless is just

[earnest flame]

like why are you putting one thing in the game above other, how one thing is somehow more something than the other

[frank grove]

you can do that

[rustic haven]

oh wow

[lost vault]

baron mime idol retrigger

[frank grove]

ive never said you cant do endless stuff 😭

[rustic haven]

perfectly timed heiroglpyh

[rustic haven]

idol can get you to ante 20

[lost vault]

becaus ethe game is literally doing that

[earnest flame]

I was talking about someone saying endless isnt the point of the game

[lost vault]

endless has very litttle purpose in the game

[rustic haven]

with copy joker retrigger

[lost vault]

its not what the balance is based on

[fervent haven]

The point of the game is to play and have fun

[lost vault]

and theres one unlock in endless

[earnest flame]

what is this purpose and how much does any other activity have it?

[fervent haven]

From uno to minecraft, nobody plays exactly how the dev wanted you to play it

[earnest flame]

what stuff are you unlocking by streaking ghost deck for 200 runs

[lost vault]

the purpose is unlocking petroglyph

[frank grove]

#🎙・server-chat message

[lost vault]

theres hundreds of other unlocks that dont involve endless

[viral raft]

tbf it should be really cool that LT added unlock to almost everything, this game need more stuff like giving challenges/endless/some stakes a purpose

[waxen quartz]

here's the run I started yesterday, by eye you can see it's probably above average (except the sixth sense queue and the horrible hallucination trigger rate) https://miaklwalker.github.io/Blueprint/?seed=33647I2W&deck=Red+Deck&antes=8&stake=White+Stake

[earnest flame]

what does that have to do with it not being the point if it just gets less attention from the developer?

[frank grove]

cause the game is designed around ante 8

[viral raft]

Like, i literally don't unlock anything with Gold stake, maybe a cool joker should be nice

[lost vault]

so youre going to argue the developer is wrong about the game design of the game he made

[earnest flame]

when did I say that

[rustic haven]

i think it needs 2 different versions of the game, itd be nice to have another play button for endless

[viral raft]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[lost vault]

idk just seems lien what youre inplying

[viral raft]

kill him

[waxen quartz]

the dev can be wrong about what he thinks the game does. what it should do is his call or you mod it

[rustic haven]

companion

[lost vault]

the game is objectively focused on ante 8 gameplay

[earnest flame]

what im implying is that going endless has as much of a "point" in the game as streaking or doing multiple c++ runs with self imposed challenges, most of which were not meant for the way balatro was designed

[rustic haven]

im gonna reroll water and if i die i die

ngl

i want this run to end

[lost vault]

sure man

[rustic haven]

it will go nowhere and atp idek what i need

[lost vault]

i never said that was wrong

i just think endless is boring compared to streaking or c++ing

very boring

[visual turtle]

Endless isn't endless

it ends

[frank grove]

also thunk talked about streaking all the time

[fervent haven]

I only go endless in naneinf attempts tbf

[lost vault]

it is

[earnest flame]

that is a valid opinion to have and I respect it, but saying that endless is pointless is not a thing you can argue for

[waxen quartz]

you got almost all the things. an ecto, a voucher and some $ is all that was missing

[lost vault]

ante 39 is just impassible

[rustic haven]

no shit

[fervent haven]

I have a question for you guys

[visual turtle]

Oh

Impassable = an end

[lost vault]

its not pointless but it serves very little purpose in the main intended gameplay

[waxen quartz]

I just interested to know how many of the naninf needed things are generally possible on a random white stake plasma. I think it's more like 1/20 or 1/30...

[fervent haven]

Do you think 100% of white stake seeds any deck are beatable by making the correct decisions (without prior seed knowledge)

[earnest flame]

thats like saying people who just run challenge decks are playing the game somehow wrong or doing pointless things

[lost vault]

man i did not word that very well

[lost vault]

probs

[fervent haven]

I believe so but it could be like 99.99%

[visual turtle]

It's my puzzle piece analogy

[lost vault]

i mean, it is objectively pointless

[viral raft]

"Endless mode is so cool!"
-> looks inside
-> Idol and Baronmime builds
-> depends on luck to survive around voucher and most of boss blinds
-> the game turns into a machine slot game with just rerolling until your sloppy joker appears

yeah sure Endless is fun...

[lost vault]

they arent doing anything wrong

but there isnt a point to it

[earnest flame]

so is doing black deck only c++

[rustic haven]

ive gotten 10 back to back runs with baron mime on white stake plasma not even going for naneinf attempts

[unborn cliff]

99% of runs are winnable

[lost vault]

yep

[visual turtle]

every game is like a puzzle, but you're handed 500 pieces, rng, and some puzzle pieces really don't like to be with each other

[rustic haven]

i can promise you its a thing

[lost vault]

but hey

[frank grove]

exactly, its for fun why are you talking about this for so long 😭

[rustic haven]

every seed can naneinf on plasma

[lost vault]

it might bring fun to the person

[fervent haven]

100% of runs are winnable any deck/stake if you have seeded knowledge

[lost vault]

and i dont have a problem with that

[plucky chasm]

aaaa guys question

[unborn cliff]

i feel like because of the randomness of the game there will eventually be a point where it is impossible to win

[earnest flame]

then how can it be pointless

[lost vault]

it doesnt achieve anything

thats what pointless means innit

[plucky chasm]

is this normal scaling flush? i got flush level 50+

[brittle ocean]

I think you could engineer a seed to be literally impossible

[waxen quartz]

finding those when you need them is just a question of $ though. there's more I usually want to have in place first, they'll turn up and mean time it's white stake plasma, you can stay alive a long time

[lost vault]

i do pointless things all the time

like arguing with you

[unborn cliff]

don't even joke lad

[rustic haven]

so have money

[lost vault]

because you never change your mind

[brittle ocean]

As for whether such a seed actually exists among the possible seeds, who knows

[visual turtle]

"self-satisfaction" (weird)

[viral raft]

yep, some of them are really painful (Black deck Gold) but is confirmed that all runs are possible, depends on the inf knowledge and skill od a player to win

[lost vault]

this is true but not quite what i mean

[waxen quartz]

why I put $2-3k on my list of things you want for naninf 🙂

[lost vault]

also imo its more satisfying to do something challenging than to hit big number

[rustic haven]

wow really who wouldve though you needed money to naneinf

[brittle ocean]

Oh actually?

[rustic haven]

surely not all the endless players

[visual turtle]

not for me but

[unborn cliff]

like hitting big number jokerless

[visual turtle]

(i saw the imo)

[lost vault]

i like hard things :3

[earnest flame]

you do realize there are many other things you can do in endless?

[frank grove]

you have to hit big numbers to play endless

[lost vault]

i guess but endless scales really fast

[brittle ocean]

Are there no seeds that have no scoring jokers within the rerolls you can do?

[visual turtle]

you can do that without endless probably

[unborn cliff]

should i say it

[lost vault]

so unless youre hitting big numbers youre gonna die

[rustic haven]

real twin

[lost vault]

nah that was an intended double entendre

[unborn cliff]

i was gonna say double entendre

[visual turtle]

Hi scam!!!

[viral raft]

yeah...variants of Baron mimes and idols builds, besides thoses you will basically die before ante 14-15

[fervent haven]

It's mathematically impossible given the 2.9 trillion seeds

[earnest flame]

the big number is irrelevant in many things you can do in endless, its just a stepping stone to whatever you are trying to do, be it a big cat or a massive wee

[unborn cliff]

plasma deck

[frank grove]

to do big cat or big wee what do you have to do?

[visual turtle]

I have to hope

[frank grove]

play baron mime ?

[lost vault]

if its a stepping stone then it isnt irrelevant

[rustic haven]

cool negative carto

[fervent haven]

I've put in countless work with dinoboy trying to engineer an unbeatable seed

[frank grove]

or perkeo observatory

[waxen quartz]

idol on plasma should be able to do e60. e100 if you really optimize it

[fervent haven]

The seed pool is too small for it

[waxen quartz]

naninf idol takes 16 jokers though, that's a rare seed

[rustic haven]

^

[lost vault]

call me a stepping stone the way im relevant (??)

[rustic haven]

bars

[earnest flame]

by that I mean its not the actual challenge of the run

[viral raft]

"the big number is irrelevant because..." shows another example of big number but with jokers instead*

[lost vault]

it isnt but it is still important

[unborn cliff]

i hit e116 on a trib run once am i good at the video game

[unborn cliff]

every challenge in balatro is big number related

[earnest flame]

isnt multiple c++ runs just making a number bigger in your name

[rustic haven]

my friend who has 15 hours hit e120 on trib baron mime sock with 1 copy joker on blue deck

[unborn cliff]

because it is a game where you score big number

[waxen quartz]

observatory is a lot to ask if that's all your scoring...I have a pic somewhere

[unborn cliff]

we need to lock them up they're too dangerous for balacord

[viral raft]

yes! but atleast mine is not generic!...(plays pair for the 2145432th time...)

[rustic haven]

they wouldnt wanna be here

[visual turtle]

There's no hope

[unborn cliff]

bonerman

[rustic haven]

some of these new players are so genuinely lost in the idiot sauce its insane

[visual turtle]

The other joker is the idol and that's kinda stinky poo

[lost vault]

i mean, pair runs have more variation than baron mime shit

[lost vault]

john bones

🙏

[earnest flame]

sure, sometimes you take green joker other times supernova

[visual turtle]

I skipped too late

[lost vault]

exaactly

[lost vault]

are we serious

[frank grove]

sometimes on gold you can even play idol

[lost vault]

you couldve taken something and sold it AT LEAST

[unborn cliff]

ew

[waxen quartz]

this is what observatory only scoring takes (and might not naninf) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386889253258264627/1476778990986465370/Screenshot_20260226_220206.png?ex=6a0b2c5c&is=6a09dadc&hm=1babd320fcb9b9e76075b3d07be8539f2e9dc804b37fae7f065bea3a867b5192&

[lost vault]

idolchad

[unborn cliff]

why though

[frank grove]

classic abandoned straight idolchad 😭

[visual turtle]

Oh

[viral raft]

yeah, that's why i play C++ instead of Endless...but that doesn't mean that this game needs some changes with pair and the current meta...i really like pair but tbh is not healthy that the current meta is so conservative you know?

[lost vault]

there is almost never a good reason to skip packs

[visual turtle]

there was
nothing I could possibly use

[unborn cliff]

mr bones

to do list is econ

econ = good

[lost vault]

the situations where you do are
not enough joker slots for a buffoon pack
bad spectrals that hurt more than help

[visual turtle]

four of a kind = bad

[frank grove]

it changes

[visual turtle]

what if next round it's like

[unborn cliff]

resets at the end of the round

[rustic haven]

is there anyway that i get passed this last wall before next ante kills me?

[unborn cliff]

if

[visual turtle]

idk

[lost vault]

even if that was true the sell button exists

[visual turtle]

yeah anything could happen

[viral raft]

the red card and the bad playing cards:

[lost vault]

could also hit high card then

[lost vault]

oh yeah red card

i forgort

[visual turtle]

But knowing this gameeee

[unborn cliff]

like dying because you skipped mr bones for no reason

[lost vault]

its rng, theres no bias

[unborn cliff]

but

[viral raft]

and also when you see really useless cards in your standard packs

[rustic haven]

welp i get to live another ante

but i get no money

[versed sable]

Mr Bones is nice security
TDL is an investment
both have the option of being sold

[rustic haven]

so

fuck it

[frank grove]

i mean they spent down on yellow for some reason

[unborn cliff]

just wait until you play the hook with a blue seal or a gold card

[waxen quartz]

you don't get payout if mr bones saves you, it's probably cooked

[unborn cliff]

new balatroers confuse me

[lost vault]

oh ive done that alright

hurts wvery time

[visual turtle]

Well now I got this

[unborn cliff]

die now guaranteed or maybe die later not guaranteed

hhmmmm.....

[earnest flame]

Hardest thing about pairslop was needing to actually try to stay in negative money for the whole run

[lost vault]

ccitbp!!!

[visual turtle]

Also it's the wall so ummm

[unborn cliff]

copy troubador for +4 handsize

[lost vault]

take scholar frfr

[rustic haven]

flush five with scholar

lowkey just wins the run

glass

yea

ez

[visual turtle]

What if I can't get glass cards

[rustic haven]

...

[visual turtle]

that has happened
before

[unborn cliff]

if

[lost vault]

u can

[frank grove]

the "if" syndrome of new players

[lost vault]

what if meow meow meow meow mrrp meow mrow

[rustic haven]

^ as i said

[rustic haven]

[earnest flame]

what if I cant draw a pair with 3 discards

[unborn cliff]

i used the image wrong

killing everyone

who'sa first

[versed sable]

omg true

[lost vault]

:3

[viral raft]

Upgrade! Upgrade! Upgrade! (+20$!) Upgrade! Upgrade!

[unborn cliff]

what if the boss blind in 4 antes is the wall

[hardy fable]

use 3 hands!

[rustic haven]

me bc i cant hit naneinf but fern can hit $4.7m

fern can you coach me on endless

[versed sable]

meow

[viral raft]

Upgrade!

[lost vault]

what if i make it to ante 5+6 (impossible)

[versed sable]

[rustic haven]

impossible challenge

i cant make it past first boss

too hard...

manacle too hard..

[versed sable]

if ya want to be in vc for it again at some point then lemme know
not this late in the day but otherwise

[rustic haven]

rah

ill lyk

[versed sable]

not sayin i'm amazing at getting runs going myself but at least i like
have the experience of doing it a lot

[unborn cliff]

fern when 5 mil e5000

[lost vault]

im never letting this die

[viral raft]

guys...when i ended my balatro run i just realice that there was "endless mode" instead of the "New run" button...i'm so scare...is this the...".EXE" mode creppypasta from this game?!?!?!

[rustic haven]

youd think id have the experience

[unborn cliff]

top 5 balacord screenshots

[rustic haven]

with 40+ naneinf attempts

[versed sable]

the 20k high cards of experience i have

[unborn cliff]

sonic.exe is in your game. sleepm with 1 eye open

[versed sable]

when i grow wings

[visual turtle]

...yeah?

[viral raft]

Jimbo.exe: "I'M GOD (+4 mult)"

[lost vault]

like the joekr

[unborn cliff]

there are an enless amount of "ifs" in balatro

[unborn cliff]

evil fucked up jimbo: -4 mult

[rustic haven]

e54 full steel

[versed sable]

yay

[cedar sable]

LOL

[visual turtle]

there's
a neutral amount of hope

[viral raft]

still more useful than showman

[rustic haven]

do i take over showman?

[visual turtle]

So how hard is it to not be poor

[unborn cliff]

bye baron

[versed sable]

yeah pick up wee joker

[frank grove]

just dont spend down in ante 1 too much and you should get to interest on yellow

[undone laurel]

Haha sometimes

[rustic haven]

not hard

[visual turtle]

Can't wait to play like one 2 somehow and die later

[unborn cliff]

showman got me a nat negative blueprint once don't diss him

[versed sable]

uuhh
i gueesss

[lost vault]

tfym sometimes 🥀

[rustic haven]

its so cooked twin

[frank grove]

dooming before doing anything 😭

[rustic haven]

i have no ecto

[viral raft]

ok (me:😡)

[rustic haven]

😭

[versed sable]

i mean it's either
dna > showman
or dna > baron

[rustic haven]

i might take a spectral skip im finna be real

[rustic haven]

does dna over baron lose tho

[lost vault]

what the fluff

[versed sable]

you might need to do dna > baron for later I'm not sure

[visual turtle]

I can waste one I guess?

[rustic haven]

i need ecto

[coarse copper]

what’s best to have leftmost here?

[lost vault]

immolate upon ye

[unborn cliff]

photo

[viral raft]

Depends but probably photo

photo is a X8

[fervent haven]

Chad for money

[brittle ocean]

Could you ping me too if this happens so I can listen in

[coarse copper]

yeah been doing this

[lost vault]

rebate

[brittle ocean]

I can naneinf but I think my early game could use some work

[unborn cliff]

brainstorm

[rustic haven]

i mean we can just vc rn if u want

[versed sable]

"listen in" ftr i'm always muted

[visual turtle]

Ummmm
how am I supposed to score 4000

[coarse copper]

so photo until hologram is >x8?

[brittle ocean]

I’m in class rn so I can’t

[versed sable]

i just use the magic of uhh
typing mildly fast

[viral raft]

yep!

[fervent haven]

Highest score would be photo tho

[rustic haven]

cooked

[unborn cliff]

hold r it gives you 2x mult

[rustic haven]

woah

[brittle ocean]

I’ll be free in like 3.5 hours if you are

[rustic haven]

i cant do that

i got like

[unborn cliff]

bro is in class

[rustic haven]

30wpm

[rustic haven]

bro goes to school

bro is smart

im crine

😭

[unborn cliff]

bro is

[rustic haven]

bro

[visual turtle]

you get to use your own devices in class?

incredible

[versed sable]

one run, the other day

[unborn cliff]

ㅤ

[versed sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1062253519391948840/1503442036085489734/image.png?ex=6a0b4602&is=6a09f482&hm=83c9d3cf8999d59a49dcacdc4a34efb253694ad592e7db4627bd5e22c604ec75&

[brittle ocean]

No but I’m doing it anyway lol

[earnest flame]

you can calculate how much for example a club flush would give you

[rustic haven]

yeah not me

[lost vault]

purrrrr~

[viral raft]

guys (👨‍👨‍👦‍👦 ) which game (🎮 ) should i play (😃!)?

[rustic haven]

so i may have rolled

$250

[frank grove]

lego batman ref 🔥

[rustic haven]

with no econ joker

[visual turtle]

oh well that's 30

[rustic haven]

but

hey

invis COULD hit

yk

[viral raft]

so peak

[earnest flame]

calculate the whole score

[lost vault]

mewgenics! (🐾)

[versed sable]

i type reasonably quick on mobile, too

with funny

[rustic haven]

subnautica 2

[lost vault]

why tf is this emote called feet

🐾

[rustic haven]

feet

fern should i take invis over showman

[versed sable]

the funny in question

[visual turtle]

1,290 or so 😔

[rustic haven]

or stick to showman reliability

[lost vault]

g

[earnest flame]

how much chips on your wee?

[visual turtle]

8

[rustic haven]

😭

[visual turtle]

I told you id get like 1 two

[versed sable]

i'd showman probably idk

[viral raft]

neat! (🙀) i suck (😢) in this game (🎮) but Edmund (🧔‍♂️) make a really great game (🎮❤️‍🔥🔥)

[frank grove]

yeah because you spent down super hard in ante 1

[versed sable]

letters

[rustic haven]

hrm i think i keep showman bc i wanna stick to the reliability of it

[unborn cliff]

this guy fucking SUCKS at typing

[rustic haven]

hitting my copy jokers is something im not good at ig

[rustic haven]

LMFAO

[versed sable]

consistency 8%

[lost vault]

mcmillen 🐴)

the horse ate the parenthesis

[viral raft]

how it feels to see your friend play balatro with 10h of gameplay:

[visual turtle]

84 short

[versed sable]

me watching karu discarding for nothing

[earnest flame]

what hands did you play

a clubs flush should have scored over 2000

[versed sable]

im still not forgetting this

[visual turtle]

Pairs because I used up my discards trying to find another clubs flush

[earnest flame]

one flush and then pairs?

[frank grove]

try not to spend all your money ante 1 unless you find a good econ joker

[rustic haven]

my friend thought that debuffed cards made the entire hand not score

[visual turtle]

Yeah. Idk, it would seem like a waste to just use high cards

[rustic haven]

😭

[versed sable]

LOL

[rustic haven]

even then he DIDNT EVEN NEED THE HAND SCORING

ALL HIS SCORING WAS JOKER SCORING

😭

[frank grove]

you want some amount of scoring ante 1 and if theres a good voucher then save for it but dont spend all your money at once. getting to interest is important

[viral raft]

i always think of this image when i see a dude skipping a blind (besides investment tag in round 1):

[warm wedge]

now i get why they call it shitstone, i went 0 for 5

[versed sable]

PFFF

[lost vault]

gotham got some crazy thumbnails

[rustic haven]

i think i took investment tag on this naneinf run round 1

was fire

[visual turtle]

Mmmmm time to be poor again

[viral raft]

i started playing chess because of him

he's so goated

[lost vault]

peak

[versed sable]

genuinely anti clickbait because it makes me not want to watch

[rustic haven]

?

[lost vault]

chess is fun too

[rustic haven]

just take buffoon and go next

lmfao

[brittle ocean]

@versed sable forgot if I asked this already but what setup do you usually use pre ante 8

[lost vault]

i should play chess more

[visual turtle]

yay

[rustic haven]

ur on yellow

[brittle ocean]

Golden ticket retrigger?

[lost vault]

why 😭

[visual turtle]

I kind of need those chips though

[viral raft]

yeah but i wish my opponent was mentally disabled so i could easily win you know?

[visual turtle]

And free x mult

[lost vault]

true true

[frank grove]

I would take castle probably

[lost vault]

the rook

[frank grove]

even though its expensive but its scaling chips and mult out of shop one thats really good

[brittle ocean]

I used to go mostly photochad hc but that’s a bit awkward to try to get a massive bean bug

[viral raft]

but then i realice that I'M the mentally disabled person...(sacrifices the queen for a pawn...)

[visual turtle]

I could get a vampire and have like zero editions and have to
spend 3000 dollars to get like
2 of them

[brittle ocean]

I’d think high level quads are better for selling all your jokers?

[frank grove]

you rolled?

[rustic haven]

pray for me

[visual turtle]

no, just listing a possibility

[frank grove]

oh then youre just saying nothing okay

take castle go big blind

[lost vault]

erm actually that wueen sac was a brilliant mobe becaus eum the pawn couldve became a queen

[rustic haven]

gg

shoulda kept the other baron

sob

[brittle ocean]

Spawn in a justice

[rustic haven]

that wouldnt help twin

[brittle ocean]

It wouldn’t?

[rustic haven]

x4 means nothing at these numbers

😭

[brittle ocean]

It would get you past this round at least lol

[rustic haven]

just like any planet levels past lvl 20 means nothing

[brittle ocean]

x16 score

[viral raft]

tuff (🔥) mentality (🧠)

[brittle ocean]

Me still taking every Pluto for $1 anyway 😭

[rustic haven]

it would be like 2.00 before the e maybe

[rustic haven]

well me too

bc i like the numbers

im pretty sure i have best copies on too

so

its just joever

its 2 mime 3 baron so

[versed sable]

uhh ig a mix of
good chips joker (see attachment)
hand levels (high card with Burnt, or a bit of deck fixing for 4oak)
retriggers on stone/foil/bonus card(s), mostly for the first.. 5 at most? antes
rarely photochad but occasionally

the rest is just value stuff

[visual turtle]

I love when castle joker gives me a suit and my hand has like only 2 cards of said suit 🥰

[rustic haven]

u dont do ticket f5 sock early?

[versed sable]

"omg guys look it's 0% accuracy and I quit!!" or "Magnus broke chess!!!" is just obnoxious to me

[frank grove]

play the pair throwing away non spades

[lost vault]

fair i suppose

[versed sable]

"early" flush five is hard

[visual turtle]

ok i made it

[rustic haven]

i mean even 5oak

or fh

[versed sable]

occasionally I do

[rustic haven]

gg

[versed sable]

but it's usually 4oak first

[rustic haven]

unfortunate

[lost vault]

it gets kinda repetitive when he makes the millionth "999 blunders" thumbnail

[rustic haven]

fair

[versed sable]

yeah

[visual turtle]

Omg lucky card hit for once in its lifespan

[rustic haven]

holy econ joker shop 1

[warm wedge]

the good thing about this "build" is that its so shitty the plant literally has no impact

[coarse copper]

jesus christ, what even goes?

[warm wedge]

honestly, brain

[viral raft]

guys...chess is woke??? i just realice that my pawn (he/him) just turned into a queen (She/they)...WHAT??? that implies that even chess respects trans people unlike R/average-sub-reddit

[coarse copper]

feels dirty but yeah i get it shit

[fringe nebula]

ante 1 shop 1

[warm wedge]

?

[lost vault]

wrathy joker

probably dna

[visual turtle]

ummmmm

[earnest flame]

ummm what

[frank grove]

you should be fine?

[rustic haven]

hands are discards

[visual turtle]

Yeah but I can't get rid of the face cards

[lost vault]

ummm

[lost vault]

you can

[visual turtle]

without an ace

[lost vault]

oh

well nrn

but like

[versed sable]

then don't play the face cards

[lost vault]

u dont need to

[versed sable]

[frank grove]

yeah

you should be able to clear 2000 with bus and castle there

even with just hc

[waxen quartz]

you have a scaler. toss the cards that aren't faces or castle discards

[earnest flame]

doesnt matter 0 discards

[warm wedge]

how to gold stake ghost

[rustic haven]

be good

[fringe nebula]

ok free win

[lost vault]

hands

hands, unlimited hands, but no hands

[fringe nebula]

get +chips, +mult and xmult

and also a way to counter bad boss blinds

[earnest flame]

It was a reply to Lokey about leaving castle cards

[visual turtle]

um x2

[frank grove]

i would check what ranks exist and play the ones with the lowest chace for a pair

[visual turtle]

I have an ace but like holy face cards

[waxen quartz]

land early immolate. otherwise it's mostly the other decks

[warm wedge]

ok

[lost vault]

you have an ace 😭

[frank grove]

and also thats a pretty good parking hand

[lost vault]

tru!

[visual turtle]

phewww that was close

[rustic haven]

you scored 969 in 2 hands

wdym close

you were gonna beat it with high cards alone

bc of bus

💀

[brittle ocean]

Why is odd Todd in nobody cares

[versed sable]

immolate and trance and the hologram joker are really strong
otherwise it's a normal enough deck with some occasional nice things

[visual turtle]

I won with like 2200

[rustic haven]

bc its too niche to play into when deckfixing

[visual turtle]

in total

[versed sable]

oops

[lost vault]

thats like 10% extra

not very close

[visual turtle]

oh

[lost vault]

how dare u slander my goat

[brittle ocean]

It’s like an early ante thing

[rustic haven]

true!

[brittle ocean]

Always sold by ante 8

[waxen quartz]

the scalers should go up faster than the blinds for a little bit. ante 5 is a pretty big bump that's when you want to hit xmult

[versed sable]

i'd put todd to the right of scary face, i suppose
and bull should probably go below that

[warm wedge]

so how to gold stake a normal enough deck

[waxen quartz]

playing hands that are reasonable to draw that score enough

[lost vault]

meow meow meow

sorry

i cant help it

[earnest flame]

hiker chad is my favourite early game start for naneinf runs, chad allows for good early game economy while hiking aces to be strong enough to beat ante 8

[versed sable]

win
play pairs more
get scaling
don't be poor
go watch drspectred or something

[waxen quartz]

also don't forget the starting hex. that econ joker you can't take? that's enough scoring to get to ante 2 big blind

[warm wedge]

so maily js score better

[lost vault]

git gud

[versed sable]

true

[lost vault]

:3

[earnest flame]

get green joker and square in shop 1

[versed sable]

i mean..

[waxen quartz]

the main thing about gold stake is hurting your econ development. otherwise it isn't so different from others. and rentals you buy/sell for effect are free. like take that rental cartographer into the blind then sell it

[earnest flame]

sometimes if you get a really good xmult joker you can skip the square completely

[visual turtle]

Round 9 and I have 25$

[warm wedge]

im off to university ig

[waxen quartz]

I really prefer hand levels over square most of the time

[visual turtle]

I'm not poor!

[earnest flame]

basic tutorial for ghost gs

[visual turtle]

wow lucky card hit a second time in it's entire existence

[brittle ocean]

Beautiful

[rustic haven]

DOUBLE STM

[visual turtle]

Mmmmmmm I love not having spade cards

[earnest flame]

I did have a rental rebate at like ante 4 that I sold before I ended the round

[lost vault]

folk 💔

[rustic haven]

would it be bad if i did it

[lost vault]

trance

is

rigjt

there

[visual turtle]

(I have five A♦️)

[lost vault]

!!!!

[rustic haven]

i can pick 2 tho

[lost vault]

oh

[rustic haven]

goober

[lost vault]

well still

u have a bunch of jokees

seems like a waste innit

isk

[rustic haven]

SYNERGY

i didnt take it

dw

[visual turtle]

ok I need xmult

[rustic haven]

LOL

[lost vault]

qwq

okey

[visual turtle]

but there is no x mult

[waxen quartz]

happens. you have econ, pretty safe to reroll more now

[visual turtle]

yay

[waxen quartz]

which joker will you toss?

[frank grove]

lmao what 😭 ok

[lost vault]

life insurance

[visual turtle]

Waiter waiter! Give me hands with 1 card of a specific suit so that castle scales 0.01 (exaggerating) chips each time!!!

[waxen quartz]

what's castle at now? "should" be like 150

[earnest flame]

That is all you need to win if you focus and play well

[visual turtle]

102

chips

[waxen quartz]

note: you probably want banana on left of bus, so you can still throw some hands to scale it and sort your hand for rebate/castle

[visual turtle]

Alright

[frank grove]

dont need it 🔥

[lost vault]

rad

Y

[frank grove]

Y

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[earnest flame]

That means you move it back to the right when you play your scoring hands

[fringe nebula]

hooly

[visual turtle]

Wow lucky card hit a third time in it's 15 round lifespan

Still don't get how we rely on lucky cat

[frank grove]

retriggers

more lucky cards

and time

[visual turtle]

I love somehow getting red seals on my lucky cards

[frank grove]

or just chad, hack, seltzer

sock

[rustic haven]

hm.

[waxen quartz]

rely and lucky cat are probably not words you put together...but it can be reasonably good enough

[lost vault]

me when the 1 in 5 activates 3 times after 15 trials

[earnest flame]

3 dices and 9 retriggers will do

[visual turtle]

I forgot to re arrange it 😔

[rustic haven]

shall i take ob?

[earnest flame]

Lets focus on the basics from now on and not minmaxing value on rebate

[lost vault]

skull emoji

minmaxing rebate value is peak though

[lost vault]

same mf who was arguing jokerless is a good way to learn

[fervent haven]

Honestly, that's not a wild take

[lost vault]

it isnt

its just nto a great thing for beginners

[waxen quartz]

ya, it won't teach you anything about repositioning jokers!

[fervent haven]

But not friendly for day 1 beginners

[earnest flame]

just an hour earlier we learned how you should keep xmult joker on the right side of flat mult jokers so I dont think shuffling xmult jokers around for rebate value is something we should focus yet

dont you agree

[lost vault]

i junno

[earnest flame]

well we see where it ended

[lost vault]

for me that is something i kinda just

[earnest flame]

a build that could have won

[lost vault]

figured out

on my own

[visual turtle]

I have to focus

[lost vault]

cuz im a dirty minmaxer

[earnest flame]

yes, its also something you do not need to win a run

[visual turtle]

[lost vault]

all of my tboi runs last multiple hours

[lost vault]

it can make or break a run tho

maybe not in low stakes idk

[waxen quartz]

ya, low stakes are pretty unloseable once you know the jokers and the basics

[frank grove]

yeah

[earnest flame]

if we are still learning about joker placements and what hands to play then shuffling jokers for rebate values is a lesson for the future

[waxen quartz]

granted I sometimes mistake eye for mouth or not consider what flint will do to my score...

[visual turtle]

Splash high card

[lost vault]

we? who's we?

[frank grove]

i would go pack and then take half probably

[versed sable]

buffoon pack gaming

[lost vault]

im just fluffing around cro i dont mean any malicious

[visual turtle]

What if I don't get much

[frank grove]

its a 4 dollar investment to see two jokers

[visual turtle]

Or something that pairs with half joker

[frank grove]

its worth it

[waxen quartz]

it's life. perfectly fine to take half and go next

[lost vault]

halfsies is much better

[earnest flame]

for the player we have been trying to help for hours now, you were up in arms instantly when I was saying that maybe its not something we should focus on

[lost vault]

i was not up in arms

[visual turtle]

i could work with this

[lost vault]

that was a joke

i thought it was funny

[earnest flame]

sure

[waxen quartz]

it's a common, doesn't help now, it'll come back. take htr for a full refund

is my advice

[lost vault]

fortune midder

[frank grove]

yeah i would take and sell htr there probably

[lost vault]

me too uwu

[visual turtle]

Oh okay

[vocal rose]

deck fixing and retriggers

[visual turtle]

No splash 😔

[vocal rose]

bc lucky cat is amazing

[visual turtle]

so luck and luck

gee no wonder

[vocal rose]

deck fixing isnt luck

[rustic haven]

i hate matador

[lost vault]

okey heres a lesson

[terse vale]

htr it is not because it’s better but because its cooler

[lost vault]

splash is really bad

[vocal rose]

finding a source of retrigger isnt luck

[lost vault]

dont take splash

♥️

[rustic haven]

bc i dont take him enough to know what he activates on

😭

[cosmic sun]

I've had some triggerless lucky cats pop off just cause I had many luckies prior.

[visual turtle]

Well I mean
chad exists

[lost vault]

wat

[visual turtle]

to this

[lost vault]

ofh

gotcha

[waxen quartz]

but an eternal splash ante 1 on yellow is a hard pass. even on fragile challenge

[lost vault]

yuhh

[visual turtle]

i mean, you kinda have to NOT play a lot of cards

[lost vault]

fragile challenge is so silly

im a fan

[cosmic sun]

no chad

[lost vault]

who needs chad

[visual turtle]

You must be very lucky

[cosmic sun]

Or you just play a random lucky high card

[lost vault]

kid named photo

[cosmic sun]

"Oh I can score enough so maybe I will just play this one lucky card"

[viral raft]

you don't need retriggers to make cat work lmao

just minmax

[cosmic sun]

Technically lucky yeah but it's also your choice to use Luckies as much as you can

[cosmic sun]

Why the fuck do I keep seeing this guy

[rustic haven]

skipping to vv so i win

[cosmic sun]

"Let's go to the roof"

[lost vault]

mrrp

[dark lava]

elite reaction video

JokerPokerBalala

[lost vault]

peakbelisk

[rustic haven]

[cosmic sun]

Anywayyyyys I'm not gonna trip up over whether I got lucky or not

Play the lucky cards

As many as you can

[waxen quartz]

that's rerolling psychic so you can add hands to it without it falling over

[rustic haven]

stm so good

[lost vault]

falling over?

[waxen quartz]

resetting to 1

[lost vault]

o

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 4

[waxen quartz]

90% sure that disallowed hands are counted as hands but obelisk ignores

[visual turtle]

Hi useless!!!

[lost vault]

dont sleep on chips

[visual turtle]

I sold that joker

[lost vault]

gng

[cosmic sun]

What ante even is that

[lost vault]

idk

[fervent haven]

Selling valid for interest if u can survive w/o

[lost vault]

probably early

[visual turtle]

Ante 2

[fervent haven]

But it's a decent joker

[waxen quartz]

same voucher

[lost vault]

selling icecream is better cuz that diminishes over time

welll

maybe

i forgot about halfsies

[waxen quartz]

let's not lose our heads. it's free ticket to ante 5 on plasma...

[visual turtle]

I got blue and Ice cream

[lost vault]

whyd u even take it

[visual turtle]

Hoping judgement would
give me something cool

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 6 ||isnt that fitting||

[lost vault]

guh ok

[cosmic sun]

You need some willpower