🕹・game-discussion

[viral raft]

🛋️

😭

[hoary moon]

🐦

[cloud sinew]

🎏

[hoary moon]

🦧

[hoary moon]

this is objectively the best emoji

of all time

its just

so perfect

so pure

[cloud sinew]

BU's reskin mod should rename sixth sense to six seven

[viral raft]

The duo👩‍👧
The trio 🧑‍🧑‍🧒
The Family🧑‍🧑‍🧒‍🧒

[cloud sinew]

Fish joker would kinda go crazy

[hoary moon]

🦧

[cloud sinew]

probably flush related

honestly maybe runner but for flushes

[warm wedge]

sum of my friends over on ggl chat have this as their orangutan emoji

[hoary moon]

fish in poker are those who play bad

[warm wedge]

🦧

[viral raft]

What the hell are even the diff between this 4 emojis 😭
👨‍👨‍👧‍👦👨‍👨‍👧‍👧👨‍👩‍👦‍👦👨‍👨‍👦‍👦

[cloud sinew]

cause chips blue and flush like water

[earnest flame]

nah, make it for high card

[viral raft]

they're litewrally the same shit

[ruby vessel]

Are there any in game references to the flames that happen when u one shot a blind? Would be cool to have a bomb related joker that activates the first time ur score catches on fire

[earnest flame]

fish joker, 1x mult if hand contains a high card

[cloud sinew]

I dont believe so

[hoary moon]

fish should give money if you finished round with 0 hands

[cloud sinew]

how is that related to being a fish

[hoary moon]

fish are terrible poker players

sharks

are good ppoker players

and whales are players with tons of money

[ruby vessel]

Overfishing being motivated by money

[cloud sinew]

sharks would also be bad poker players

[ancient gyro]

i was thinking of go fish

[earnest flame]

1 in 4 chance it spoils after round ends, turning into rotten fish which gives -0.5x mult if hand contains a high card

[ancient gyro]

like the card game

[cloud sinew]

yes king! Go fishing!

[hoary moon]

smth with being weak

[earnest flame]

OR actually, just make it disable the joker on its right side, then it has some use

[hoary moon]

balatro is too different from normal poker

[ruby vessel]

Loan shark joker that gives u a bunch of money and then sends u into crippling debt the next shop

[hoary moon]

ooo ye

sharks in poker are agressive

risk

[cloud sinew]

fish is runner but for flush, i have decided

[hoary moon]

and then whale that gives x3 mult if you have more than 100$

i feel like there arent enough poker references in balatro

[cloud sinew]

i think there are enough

[viral raft]

i guess 🫩

[hoary moon]

take it and die

[viral raft]

the left fish seems like something that would go crazy on misprint deck

the rotten fish can be cool on some boss counter bosses i guess? and also temp value

[cloud sinew]

i hate the fish

[earnest flame]

it has much more uses, helps you minmax rounds by disabling your scoring jokers

[cloud sinew]

thats not worth a joker slot most of the time

[mental bloom]

rightttt

[viral raft]

i mean yeah but is -1 joker slot, you can just movew the Xmult on the left most of the time

[cloud sinew]

almost all of the time actually

[viral raft]

but i see the idea

[cloud sinew]

as usually you can just move xmult leftmost and thats enough

[ancient gyro]

some boss blinds already do that for free without rental/perishable/eternal stickers

[earnest flame]

cries in plasma

[viral raft]

yeah, or sell the +mult that doesn't scale and use the Xmult as a oneshot in last hand

[cloud sinew]

plasma is still an xmult deck more oftrn than not

[hoary moon]

im adding this to the fih dex

[earnest flame]

its a chip deck when minmaxing matters the most

[cloud sinew]

its not a chip deck...

[viral raft]

nuh uh

Plasma deck is "play chips while you pivot to Xmult" deck

[cloud sinew]

at gold stake you have to run xmult in more than half of runs

[hoary moon]

maybe if xChips existed but xChips is the stypidest idea ever

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[bronze leaf]

Joker concept:
"At the start of a blind, subtract up to $5. Add that amount to this Joker's +Mult"

[hoary moon]

2.4M violet vessel

[serene forge]

xchips exists

its called mult

[mental bloom]

Oooooh

Another way to scale Swash?

Pretty okay

[bronze leaf]

No it doesn't add sell value, it adds +mult

[serene forge]

ceremonial dagger 2

[hoary moon]

thats why its the stupidest idea ever

[cloud sinew]

this just feels like better dagger

[bronze leaf]

You're so right tho

[earnest flame]

my bull with 4 blueprints is basically a xchips build

[mental bloom]

ah oopsies

[cloud sinew]

that wont be most runs though

[ruby vessel]

The boot already kinda does this bc u can’t spend the money it just has a worse money to mult conversion

[hoary moon]

haram balatro 🥀

[serene forge]

damn i guess i've been playing this deck wrong, i need to find a better source of chips

[cloud sinew]

chips from sell value would be sigma

[earnest flame]

I said its a chip deck when minmaxing matters the most aka the first half

[hoary moon]

we dont need more +chips jonklers

[ruby vessel]

We need a banana chip joker

[cloud sinew]

i dont think thats true

[viral raft]

😮‍💨

mr bones is way better here

[serene forge]

here lose

[viral raft]

mr bones saves me from Plant atleast

i'll keep it

[cloud sinew]

does it really

[hoary moon]

a devil dressed like an angel

[ruby vessel]

If u have enough planet levels u can usually get to 25% with debuffed cards at least in my experience

Tho this was also on a different build

[serene forge]

can you score 25% without stm

[cloud sinew]

25% from debuffed when they have STM mime as their primary scoring is a very difficult task

[serene forge]

how high is supernova

[earnest flame]

hikerchad on stone is bis build on any stake plasma

[viral raft]

Trading card is so cool, no wonder why Doc let TC inseminate him

[cloud sinew]

what

[cosmic sun]

[ancient gyro]

plasma scoring generally wants you to be xmult ready* but most of the time runs score via chips with them as the end result. pivoting to multiple xmults from chips is harder to comfortably transition to over doubling down in chips for blinds and bosses that aren't vv/wall/needle.

docs vids that go for plasma encourages playing chips generally but have both options left open between chips and xmult. I'm left with the impression that he references roffles plasma play style of relying on chips early, trying to pivot to mult, and then failing to transition in time

[viral raft]

idk, for some reason i always see that png of Doc with TC

so weird

[pale wolf]

my friend is back

[cloud sinew]

bye STM

[viral raft]

you mean Acrobat right?

[cloud sinew]

fuck that bitch

[pale wolf]

bye castle

[viral raft]

:0

[earnest flame]

I really do think going full chips is the most reliable way to beat plasma on any stake and its what I do like 90% of the time

[ancient gyro]

i wish

[pale wolf]

stickering besties

[cloud sinew]

even at gold stake?

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[viral raft]

the 2.4 million VV in the ante 8:

Chips are viable...until you realice half of the bosses counters you

[gray plaza]

Comedy

[viral raft]

Crimson, VV and even Leaf can make your run hell

if you play chip build

[pale wolf]

bagnana

[viral raft]

take boots

[earnest flame]

hiker chad go brr and score 12 million from just cards

[viral raft]

for stickerin

[pale wolf]

of course

[cloud sinew]

thats not a reliable build

[earnest flame]

nothing debuffs stones

[cloud sinew]

leaf

[ancient gyro]

i had a chip build that can almost score 1550 chips recently

[serene forge]

most of my plasma runs do end up being chip based but i can't tell if that's because that's actually the strategy all along or if it's because i'm just getting lucky

[cloud sinew]

also im not saying that it wont win

[earnest flame]

at that point hiker has done its job already

he can go

[cloud sinew]

im saying its not going to appear often

[ruby vessel]

The strategy is just to be lucky

[earnest flame]

otherwise im just focusing on planets

[ancient gyro]

my 5 win streaks on plasma and the attempts behind it were mostly chip based

[earnest flame]

blue seals leveling up flush house for example

[serene forge]

hiker is a played card effect which are usually not a very consistent strategy because they get countered by like everything

[ancient gyro]

doc also plays hard into chips in plasma from his recent videos

[viral raft]

when you play around chips you depends on like 5-10 chip jokers, in the other hand Xmults build you can play with any Xmult and it will work in good hands

except flowerpot...that is bad

[ancient gyro]

i say recent as if 5 months ago was last week

[earnest flame]

when you play around chips you also depend on planet cards which are super reliable

[cloud sinew]

flush house is not a reliable build either, you have so far brought up hikerchad stones and flush houses as reasons why plasma is mainly beaten with chips...

[viral raft]

planets are way better on Xmult because of the mutiplying value

[ancient gyro]

plasma likes

chips
money
retriggers
planets
2p

[cloud sinew]

those two are not going to come up often at all

[serene forge]

the awkwardness comes from wanting xmult, but not having solid mult because you can't afford to have useless flat mult early game so at that point your xmult isn't very strong

man fuck this deck it sucks

[viral raft]

Bones or even more cooler bones

[earnest flame]

you just need a decent chip joker in the beginning and you can focus on your deck and hand levels on plasma 100% for up until like ante 4

[viral raft]

the run is over

[cloud sinew]

i also dont like plasma because you die a lot later in a run compared to, say, nebula, but that doesnt mean youll be winning more often

[cloud sinew]

"a decent chip joker in the beginning" is already asking for too much

[serene forge]

to be fair, "you just need this joker" isn't exactly a sound strategy

so like

[cloud sinew]

most runs dont have that

[earnest flame]

what do you mean most runs

there are plenty of decent chip jokers

[ancient gyro]

i used to hate plasma back when i prioritized xmult pivots too often

[earnest flame]

even chad is a good chip joker if you just play around it

[cloud sinew]

+22 chips, cool

[ancient gyro]

sources* it doesn't have to be explicitly chip jokers

[cloud sinew]

no there arent

[pale wolf]

even chad

[serene forge]

is square joker even good on plasma

[cloud sinew]

chips jokers are actually so much rarer than mult sources

[earnest flame]

hierophant, a lucky foil card

[cloud sinew]

its workable

[viral raft]

mmm seems better than hologram to me

[cloud sinew]

LUCKY.FOIL

[viral raft]

should i?

[ancient gyro]

yeah

scales twice as fast as bus + ramen

for reference

[serene forge]

hm

[ancient gyro]

think about it

[earnest flame]

booster packs have a lot of foil cards but yes its a bit luck based to get one early enough

[serene forge]

that makes sense

[cloud sinew]

They do not

[earnest flame]

but hierophant on aces and a chad does alot

[cloud sinew]

foil is 4%

[ancient gyro]

plasma can make do with more common chip jokers in the joker pool

[karmic warren]

damn so close

[viral raft]

actually i don't want this :c

funny

[serene forge]

for reference the chance of a card in a standard pack being foil is 4%

[viral raft]

damn

maybe i should just skip that soul

[serene forge]

i think you should sell the baron

[viral raft]

Baron?

[serene forge]

yeah the baron right over there

you should sell it

[viral raft]

neat...

[ancient gyro]

zamn

[serene forge]

blocked cuz pareidolia

[ancient gyro]

cant be neurodivergent these days

[pale wolf]

vamgapirbond run secured

[ancient gyro]

also parei stereotype

[serene forge]

remove parei from the game

[ancient gyro]

i like parei

[cloud sinew]

this was my last C++² game

[serene forge]

when did you get that parei

[ancient gyro]

parei is like a shittier oops

quirkier

[earnest flame]

telescope on plasma is absurdly good too in early game if you go straights, that is pretty much all you need for a while and it again allows you to focus on building your deck for chips

[pale wolf]

parei is like if all cards were considered as face cards

[ancient gyro]

maybe

[cloud sinew]

"If you go straights"

you need to draw them consistently enough that you have them as your most played

[cloud sinew]

between a3 and a8

it for the sticker

[pale wolf]

just play plasma abandoned then

[ancient gyro]

assuming you get celestial packs every shop

[earnest flame]

that is easily doable on plasma

[ancient gyro]

uhh

idk about that

[cloud sinew]

not with 2 discards

[ancient gyro]

2p usually takes higher priority in plasma anyways

[cloud sinew]

good chips

[pale wolf]

chippies

no multies

but sometimes multies

[minor portal]

those who chip vs those who mult

[midnight badge]

Guys, how can I improve this?

[ancient gyro]

good chips
good retrigger options
good on scoring chip jokers
good coverage overall

[pale wolf]

ante 9/8

[cloud sinew]

use judgement after selling half joker

[minor portal]

five million negative blueprints

[warm wedge]

by pressing and holding r

[bronze leaf]

I can never go straights but I can absolutely go bi's

[serene forge]

i love lesbians

[bronze leaf]

Lesbians are cool. I love that for them

[warm wedge]

you actual lesbian

[bronze leaf]

I'm not a lesbian

[earnest flame]

tldr 66% chance to get a straight with 2 discards

[warm wedge]

are you female

[bronze leaf]

Yes?

[warm wedge]

do you love lesbians

[bronze leaf]

I love all queer women

[warm wedge]

so then your lesbian

[bronze leaf]

I'm not a lesbian

[warm wedge]

breh

[ancient gyro]

paper vs practice

[bronze leaf]

What's the issue?

[warm wedge]

i find this very annoying i shall go play some balls

[cloud sinew]

this is not a proven optimal discarding strategy

[bronze leaf]

Tfw when you're bisexual and people think you're a lesbian 😞

[minor portal]

the triangle goes in the square hole

[earnest flame]

based on my anecdotal evidence ive not had any troubles going for straights with plasma gold stake

[warm wedge]

i cant

[warm wedge]

just stick it in the hole

[bronze leaf]

???? Am I missing a joke here?

[earnest flame]

and I do that pretty often since runner is such a good joker

[warm wedge]

no i just cant

[earnest flame]

for any deck

[cloud sinew]

I have played a lot of plasma gold stake and i have struggled with drawing them consistently

[bronze leaf]

I don't understand

[cloud sinew]

runner does not require consistency

[warm wedge]

IT ALL FITS IN THE FUCKING SQAURE HOLE

[warm wedge]

i just cant

very simple: I CAN NOT

I JUST CAN NOT

[minor portal]

but can you not can

[warm wedge]

runner requires running, not consistency

[warm wedge]

i am not canning

[bronze leaf]

Just don't call me a lesbian

[warm wedge]

ok

[cloud sinew]

random balatro screenshot go

oh damn

[ancient gyro]

case and point

[warm wedge]

now its visible to everyone

[minor portal]

family guy cutaway gag to actual balatro conversation

[cloud sinew]

clubs forever

[bronze leaf]

Thank you?

[minor portal]

true...

[warm wedge]

that way nobody else will mix you up 😊

[cloud sinew]

clubs my beloved

[warm wedge]

blergh

wtf is +7 mult supposed to do?

[ancient gyro]

i like the origin story of spades

[cloud sinew]

arrowhead if it was good: +7 mult when a played club is scored

[minor portal]

I just like the color of clubs tbh

[warm wedge]

blue though? cuz in text its stadard color pisses me off

[cloud sinew]

give +7 mult

[minor portal]

high contrast was made for the weak

[ancient gyro]

spades in face down card bosses

[bronze leaf]

and for people with vision impairments

[cloud sinew]

i simply carry a suit changer

[cloud sinew]

its just easier

especially with skins

[ancient gyro]

glee

[minor portal]

yeah well it's my anthill

[ancient gyro]

we don't need those

[cloud sinew]

and im an anteater

[bronze leaf]

I also use light mode on discord if that bothers you too

[minor portal]

pinocchio long nose having ahh

[cloud sinew]

yeah well who has the 60 black deck gs streak

[earnest flame]

just play stone cards

[ancient gyro]

me

o

[cloud sinew]

no its me i do

[minor portal]

it could be green ✨

[ancient gyro]

that's like

more than brook

[cloud sinew]

probably

[cloud sinew]

my astigmatism could never, but idm people using it

[earnest flame]

well I have a 7000x cat

[bronze leaf]

I really just don't understand people who hate it so much. Yeah most of it is jokes but GOD it's annoying lmao

[earnest flame]

took me 30 hours to feed that cat to that point

[ancient gyro]

im getting blisters on my pinky toe from trail running how is this even possible 💔

[cloud sinew]

proof

[minor portal]

you know lucky cat should maintain a healthy diet of lucky procs

[earnest flame]

used bean bug so its not a valid record, random seed

[ancient gyro]

i remember one of my friends had oled burn in from using light mode discord, reddit, and other applications which was funny

[cloud sinew]

No! They make these special accessories called GLASSES so that you dont need to undergo an expensive, imperfect, and potentially harmful medical procedure!

[pale wolf]

is anybody there

[serene forge]

yes

[pale wolf]

wheres the glass cards

[ancient gyro]

crunch

[serene forge]

(only visible to you)

[molten ember]

i just got dna the shop b4 this :(

absolute goated unseeded run ruined

wouldve been my first black stake win

[pale wolf]

what does that have to do with glass

[serene forge]

skill issue plant doesnt counter photochad

hmm i wonder how many times i've written that

[molten ember]

i hadnt made them ngl

[minor portal]

because dna taste better than glass card

[pale wolf]

smh smh

[molten ember]

i forget abt card packs

cuz i dont wanna run out of face cards once they break

[serene forge]

24 times

[pale wolf]

thats a priority with chad runs

no not glass faces

bruh

[serene forge]

you don't glass the faces silly

[molten ember]

skill issue on my part then

im still upset

[cloud sinew]

we should make one where its egg vs rebate

[molten ember]

literally the win was handed to me

[pale wolf]

if you have glass number cards you just full copy chad and play as normal

[molten ember]

iforgotabtdatdoe

[serene forge]

translation: photo sucks, chad good

[molten ember]

thx for the tip

noted

[ancient gyro]

zebra you're missing a glass 6 of spades sticker

[molten ember]

my skill has leveled up

[ancient gyro]

in your server

or emote

whatever

[molten ember]

maaan that joker lineup looks so satysfying too 😭

satisfying

[earnest flame]

negative chad should retrigger the last card

[cloud sinew]

good thing i dont live there

[minor portal]

It broke last ante

[serene forge]

i wish i lived in canada

[pale wolf]

i should have every rank, suit, enhancement, edition, and seal combination playing card emotes

[cloud sinew]

i wish i live

yes

[serene forge]

you can't say fuck ass as one word

what

[cloud sinew]

or mf

[minor portal]

1984

[serene forge]

what are these mods smoking

geez

[pale wolf]

i think its a word filter for India or something lol

[minor portal]

big balatro is watching

[ancient gyro]

just Q♠

[cloud sinew]

but you can say the n word. hard r and all...

[cloud sinew]

STM stats update?

[pale wolf]

cuz if it was Western based blacklist then racial slurs would be banned

[ancient gyro]

it's not in my pairless gsg profile

[cloud sinew]

no i havent

[serene forge]

be quiet

[pale wolf]

cursed

[cloud sinew]

the fool does not know he is a fool

we should forgive him

[minor portal]

Aren't most eye surgeries done with lasers.

[pale wolf]

i doubt most

[serene forge]

also what was with those weird ass messages you were sending me about gta6 earlier

i'm still wondering

[minor portal]

well I wouldn't say very safe

[warm wedge]

i figured

[ancient gyro]

[warm wedge]

nah just youse a scuplting knife and pick what you want

[cloud sinew]

LETS GOOOOOO

[pale wolf]

when are you stm++

[cloud sinew]

and unnecessary in my case

I do not need laser eye surgery

[ancient gyro]

did that twice already, maybe more

[earnest flame]

but what if my lucky procs are not really lucky but actually just consistent procs?

[minor portal]

I had an ice pick last time but they missed by a couple centimeters.

[cloud sinew]

not really

[minor portal]

Who did that

[warm wedge]

ehhh are u blidn then

[cloud sinew]

its not necessary and wouldnt improve my life much

[serene forge]

sir this is a wendy's

[cloud sinew]

so i wont

[warm wedge]

restaurant

we dont serve interests

[cloud sinew]

sir this is jimbos deli

[minor portal]

Why was my lobotomy joke nay'd for a mere fraction of a moment

[cloud sinew]

jokers, my bad

[warm wedge]

hello id like a grimbo on my poly jimbo

[serene forge]

hello welcome to mcdonalds may i take your order

[warm wedge]

well if a meoment is undefined, a fraction of a moment = a moment

[ancient gyro]

5 years later

[pale wolf]

hey google search scribly joker unlock balatro free answer no download

[warm wedge]

yea you can take it and shove it up your

[cloud sinew]

two idol, a number 9 cloud

<@&1133519078540185692> what is wrong with this person

[serene forge]

this meme was made by a 14 year old before he realized he was being dumb jsyk

whatever

[verbal oak]

Pretty much my thoughts summarized

[viral raft]

no The plant on ante 7 🥹 you can go Luchador

[smoky merlin]

?ban 1399041097849901117 i hope you enjoyed your time here

[sturdy creek]

depytat_gondon_37719 was banned.

[cloud sinew]

YAY

hammers

ty lawyer

[serene forge]

wonderful

[trail hemlock]

Thank u lilo

[warm wedge]

lawyer? you need a better laywer

first time ive seen a mod doin smth

[cloud sinew]

vonne is the best lawyer

[warm wedge]

nah those yt ppl who just yap about things the wrong way

[pale wolf]

youtube

[warm wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mH15p2l4JQw

[cloud sinew]

i will go to sleep now and dream about breaking my 60x black deck gs loss streak

[warm wedge]

you mean win sterak

[viral raft]

loss streak?

that's crazy

hope you win the next 60 runs

[pale wolf]

im gonna go win a black deck run for you lilo

[warm wedge]

my loss streak is like nan e inf

1.8e308

[cloud sinew]

youre stealing it from me 😭

[minor portal]

You can only lose if you fail to win fr

life goals

[ancient gyro]

you're still sleeping

[warm wedge]

hmm no i just keep rolling

[cloud sinew]

IT WAS YOU

THIS WHOLE TIME

[warm wedge]

weak

[cloud sinew]

gn chat

[pale wolf]

only 10,000 black deck gs wins exist in the world and doc took half them already

[ancient gyro]

egg had more personality in 2024

[pale wolf]

im not gonna play black deck rn ill die

[serene forge]

awaaaa

[ancient gyro]

i took the other half

[pale wolf]

you have like 300

[minor portal]

five gold stake black deck runs have a golden ticket at the end for you to visit the jimbo factory

[ancient gyro]

u don't know the screenshots I've not sent

[pale wolf]

just estimating based on ur profiles

[ancient gyro]

speaking of black deck, I got another funny bounty involving jj on black deck

and obbylicks

[pale wolf]

jj slider

[viral raft]

least peak STM build 🐴

2 stickers

[cedar sable]

balatrodle in: i cheated again

[fading dome]

Oh hey, nice catch!
The booster packs were intentionally phrased differently from the in-game text due to the in-game text being honestly very confusingly phrased; most people would interpret "choose 2 of up to 5" and "choose up to 2 out of 5" very differently.

I'm not sure if there's a good way to show the actual in-game text in the table, it's kind of crowded already. If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 2

[cedar sable]

genuinely I can't get it at all

[cedar sable]

how

[serene forge]

this was a lucky one for me

||only two uncommons cost 8 dollars||

[cedar sable]

3

iirc

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 10

[cedar sable]

because the next one is ||ANOTHER 8 DOLLAR UNCOMMON||

[viral raft]

10 😭

[hybrid tendon]

look.

this

is

bad

[cedar sable]

i even cheated this one

[ancient gyro]

||astronomer||

[warm wedge]

sINCE WHEN DID ||stensil|| SKALE

[serene forge]

right

it's ||astronomer||

[hybrid tendon]

forever

[serene forge]

so ||3 in total||

[inner glen]

The only reason I noticed was because I wanted to get the wording right in a mod, as for suggestions maybe just a note at the bottom of the page on boosters that clarifies the in-game description differs slightly?

[rustic swallow]

same

[serene forge]

balatrodle's definition of scaling is messed up

[warm wedge]

oh hi

[serene forge]

it counts anything that has a number on it that changes

as scaling

so seltzer is scaling 😭

[rustic swallow]

RYAN

I GOT IT IN 3

YAY

[warm wedge]

cheter

cap

[warm wedge]

never trust ia

[cedar sable]

I'm not even that good in balatro wtf do you expect from me

(maybe it's just my horrendous luck but whatever)

[cedar sable]

LMAO

[upbeat vector]

Nope!

[viral raft]

This run just kill me in first 3 antes lol
AXVLWHJL (Zodiac, Gold stake)

too hard to my brain

[warm wedge]

[fading dome]

Hmm, a note directly under/above the table could work 🤔 I can bring it up with the rest of the editors

[serene forge]

at mods

[cedar sable]

what deck what stake

[viral raft]

😭

[upbeat vector]

buy and use me

[viral raft]

Zodiac deck, Gold stake

[cedar sable]

yeah I can't get to that rn

sorry

[fading dome]

Technically the AI said "around the $8 price point". Which is not very useful, but it's also not lying
Nevermind this hallucinating computer put multiple $4 in there lmao

[rustic swallow]

||google told me to do this||

ooooooh

now i know

[warm wedge]

sstoobid

[serene forge]

bro

[warm wedge]

you want me to use u>

[ancient gyro]

dude

[viral raft]

you can go a unlocked all file and try

[mental bloom]

ts really is useless bruh

[warm wedge]

yes?

[warm wedge]

Yes?

[inner glen]

Coools

[viral raft]

dude, add spoiler in your shit too 😭

[serene forge]

boss

do you realize what you just did

[warm wedge]

yes

[warm wedge]

no

[serene forge]

fuck you

[warm wedge]

id rather not

[viral raft]

🥀

[warm wedge]

what shit

[cedar sable]

is gold stake black deck really that bad

[serene forge]

yes

[rustic swallow]

duh

[serene forge]

well

[cedar sable]

ok cool

[warm wedge]

no you just need to ...

[serene forge]

kinda

[rustic swallow]

bloodstone carries

tho

right?

[viral raft]

yes with Nebula is the worst decks in high stakes

[warm wedge]

lol shitstone, 1 in never chance to land on the worst suit

[mental bloom]

dont fall for the ragebait

[serene forge]

fuck you

[mental bloom]

too bad

[rustic swallow]

id also rather not

[warm wedge]

ethan u actual ghost pinger

[rustic swallow]

vat dO yOU mEAn

[warm wedge]

GHOST PING

i lit just saw you ghost ping

and learn how to type

[cedar sable]

oops all 6 tho

but whatever

[earnest flame]

First gs plasma run i went to test and again 4 amazing chips jokers and straights keep coming easily, all though im having trouble drawing my one blue seal

chips are bis

[warm wedge]

mneh u gunna manifest it?

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[cedar sable]

what

anyways

uhh

idk

nitro's going to die tomorrow

[rustic swallow]

hHUR

[earnest flame]

people dont give enough credit to splash being an amazing chips joker

[rustic swallow]

RYAN WHERES UR GAMBELING SPIRIt

[rustic swallow]

ngl its actually kinda good sometimes'

[ancient gyro]

out of the cool things splash can do, chips isn't very high on my list

[earnest flame]

using your off hands to actually score is nice

[rustic swallow]

mhm especialy if u have enhancements

[earnest flame]

on plasma if ur throwing in couple hierophants or foils then it actually matters

[ancient gyro]

u should do a plasma win streak

[earnest flame]

chips only plasma winstreak

[ancient gyro]

very situational

[earnest flame]

no xmult or +mult

[ancient gyro]

just win streaks in general

[cedar sable]

i mean mostly you play higher than high card

very situational

[ancient gyro]

so no planets?

[cedar sable]

if you don't have high mult then it's horrible

imo

[earnest flame]

on gs you are using your hands as discards, especially when digging for blue seals so its nice to actually score with those off hands

especially on plasma

[cedar sable]

well it's plasma deck

[earnest flame]

okay scrap that

[cedar sable]

you can just use

uhh

idk banner maybe

I'm seeing things idk

I'm high

[earnest flame]

splash midas pareidolia golden ticket synergy

add vampire there too

[ancient gyro]

if ssbu and traveling abroad didn't have a chokehold on me id prob have pairless gsg done by now

[earnest flame]

splash my beloved

I may have plasmarot in my brains but I love chips

[ancient gyro]

microplastics

[brittle ocean]

Where would yall rank plasma in gs difficulty

[ancient gyro]

second worst in consistency
worst in terms of learning curve

[earnest flame]

second easiest behind ghost

[cedar sable]

no idea

[brittle ocean]

I had a rough time trying to get through the stakes on plasma last night

[ancient gyro]

that's normal

[brittle ocean]

I was spoiled from white staking for ante 39 runs

[earnest flame]

you can get such a strong econ going with plasma in the first 3 antes and money gets you everything in balatro

[brittle ocean]

Blue stake plasma felt harder than gold stake on some other decks 😭

I think once I hit gold I had gotten used to plasma

But still felt harder than even black

[earnest flame]

how many other decks can go to ante 4 with just rebate

[iron vigil]

fork found in kitchen

[earnest flame]

consistently

[brittle ocean]

Ante 4 is fine

[ancient gyro]

would you do lossless plassma++

[brittle ocean]

But later antes killed me a lot

[ancient gyro]

to back up your claims

[earnest flame]

I can do a lossless ante 4 no jokers giga econ

[brittle ocean]

Usually when I tried to transition to mult

[earnest flame]

for thousand runs

[earnest flame]

there is a solution to that, dont

[ancient gyro]

what about plasma++

[brittle ocean]

800000 points with 4 hands needs like 900 chips per hand

[ancient gyro]

chip value requirements for plasma
(violet vessel requirements in parentheses)
1 hand: 1789 (3099)
3 hands: 1033 (1789)
4 hands: 895 (1550)

[brittle ocean]

What stake do you play on

I agree that plasma is one of the easiest on white stake

Cause you can chip your way through with no sweat at all

Purple and higher you need to find very specific chip jokers to hit the requirement and pray for no vessel

[earnest flame]

stone cards with seltzer, a scaling chip joker upstairs and some high card levels from blue seals

ez

[ancient gyro]

me when i get to choose what i want

[earnest flame]

you do when you have money

[ancient gyro]

and if i dont

if*

[cedar sable]

what is lossless

[earnest flame]

pretty hard not to have money when you dont really have to spend that much for 12 rounds

[brittle ocean]

What winrate do you have on plasma gold stake using a chip strat

[ancient gyro]

no losses

[cedar sable]

so like

from white stake to gold stake

without any loss

[ancient gyro]

not to be confused with lossless audio

[brittle ocean]

From my understanding you’re usually supposed to transition to xmult at some point

[cedar sable]

or

[brittle ocean]

Cause chips don’t scale fast enough every time

[earnest flame]

this is a lie created by big mult

[ancient gyro]

not always, chips is normally preferred. you do want to be xmult ready

[brittle ocean]

How often do you do chips usually

Compared to mult

[ancient gyro]

900 chips in 4 hands isn't the least trivial thing in the world when ignoring 3 specific boss blinds

[ancient gyro]

≈80%

[brittle ocean]

Oh damn

I think I did like 60% lol

I had stuntman and two brainstorms and got smacked by violet vessel and that traumatized me

[ancient gyro]

doubling down on chips is harder for 1 specific finisher boss blind. sometimes for wall/needle scoring as well

[earnest flame]

your name might have something to do with it, first you must learn to embrace planet merchant

[brittle ocean]

?

[ancient gyro]

embrace the 3rd worst voucher in the game

is what he's trying to say

[brittle ocean]

Got it

What’s 1st and 2nd lol

Magic trick I assume

[ancient gyro]

illusion and planet tycoon

[brittle ocean]

Oh you’re counting upgrades

[ancient gyro]

alls fair in voucher comparisons

[brittle ocean]

Yeah fuck planet tycoon lol

[earnest flame]

are these some official rankings

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[earnest flame]

cause I feel like blank is such a gamble on gold stake

[ancient gyro]

gsg rankings

[brittle ocean]

Planet merchant is just all around considered bad I’m pretty sure

[brittle ocean]

Cause random planets just clutter the shop

[ancient gyro]

yeah

36 shop weight no thanks

[brittle ocean]

And I hate it specifically the most cause I mainly play for ante 39

[earnest flame]

going with chips I want planets

[brittle ocean]

At least magic trick + illusion only has 4 shop weight and gets it out of the voucher pool

Planet merchant + tycoon fucks up the shop

[cedar sable]

grabber is so important imo

[earnest flame]

there are only few chip jokers and they are common so you are getting them easily anyways

[brittle ocean]

Is there a reason illusion is lower than magic trick

[cedar sable]

especially with -1 hand size on blue stake or higher

[earnest flame]

so might as well fill the shop with planets

[brittle ocean]

I thought magic trick is usually a negative

Except for hologram

[ancient gyro]

vouchers:
merchant vouchers change the weights from 4 to 9.6
tycoon vouchers change the weights from 9.6 to 32
ghost's spectrals have a weight of 2
magic trick cards have a weight of 4

default shop weight
jokers: 20
tarots: 4
planets: 4

[earnest flame]

I wouldnt take blank on gs unless im swimming in money

[ancient gyro]

6 dollar playing cards

[cedar sable]

there's no x chip currently so x mult is a lot better than chip

any deck

[ancient gyro]

and doesn't work

[cedar sable]

even plasma

[ancient gyro]

+mult is xchips though

[earnest flame]

you dont need xchips to get enough of them for plasma to get to ante 8

[devout wasp]

in the long run, xmult has the higher ceiling on plasma, but you do not need it to hit 1.2m

[earnest flame]

and the chip jokers scale fast enough

[ancient gyro]

still waiting for that answer

[brittle ocean]

Do you always do chips or do you sometimes transition

[earnest flame]

I have never streaked

[ancient gyro]

figures

[earnest flame]

I transition if its like really easy

issue with the transition to xmult is that im way too lazy to calculate if its enough

[brittle ocean]

Lmao

[ancient gyro]

same reason why it's the best voucher, blue deck has the highest win streak, and needle being the most universally worst boss blind

[devout wasp]

i think "sometimes transition" is probably the most correct. dunno what the spread would be, but it's situation dependent. keep yourself open for it (planets, etc) but hard-forcing the transition can just make you lose in the midgame when the scoring hits the elbow of the curve

[verbal oak]

Balatro players often tend to transition

[cedar sable]

fuck needle bro

[brittle ocean]

It’s so satisfying after transitioning to just rip through every round cause your xmult scales twice as fast

[cedar sable]

i hate it so much

[ancient gyro]

yeah now im playing ssbu

[brittle ocean]

Yeah I was probably trying a little too hard to transition

Not forcing it but looking too much for opportunities

[devout wasp]

i did too for prob 150 hours or so

_>

[ancient gyro]

problem with xmult transitioning is that you need to find 2 xmults to out scale chips

[brittle ocean]

Yeah

[ancient gyro]

or 2 xmult triggers such as photoslop

[cedar sable]

wee with hack in plasma deck goes hard

[ancient gyro]

at least

[cedar sable]

imo

[brittle ocean]

Transitioning was so much easier on white stake 😂

[devout wasp]

all my game knowledge is hard-won by so many Ls you woulda thought i was a welsh village

[earnest flame]

what I do is I go full chips and if an oppoturnity comes to swap to mult then I do it but I will not look for it on purpose

[brittle ocean]

With exactly this

[solemn flume]

I mean makes sense if hand number is a fundamental mechanic (winning/losing blind) and ties to another fundamental mechanic (money) it's not hard to see why it suddenly is very valuable to increase it

[brittle ocean]

I think like 40% of my endless runs started with photochad for a quick xmult transition so I could get some use out of steel cards

And/or to not worry about scoring so I can trigger a shit ton of red gold cards

[ancient gyro]

why black deck is the worst deck, why heiroglyph has a polarizing downside early game and for current lobotomy meta, etc

[devout wasp]

i would say if the goal is endless then you pretty much have to transition. not really humanly enough time to scale chips to the orders of magnitude you need even in, like, the teens, ante-wise

[brittle ocean]

Yeah lol

Probably why I was biased towards transitioning

[devout wasp]

but you can delay that until a little later than you might think

[brittle ocean]

Too much dopamine from watching my level 15 high card photochad win on white stake while 8 gold cards print money

[cedar sable]

can i ask something

[earnest flame]

my favourite starting strat for endless plasma is to find a hiker and just build some giga chip cards and which will be enough to pretty much win on their own

[brittle ocean]

And be able to put baron or mime into my build as soon as I see it without worrying about dying

[cedar sable]

who do you think is better

doc or bean

[ancient gyro]

doc

[brittle ocean]

How far does this make it

[ancient gyro]

not many ppl can replicate his achievements

[brittle ocean]

Baron mime is like THE deep endless combo

[cedar sable]

fair enough

bean is one of the best at pvp

[solemn flume]

Imo Black Deck should've been one discard removed. It feels awful not being able to use the same hand numbers to trigger things like Reserved Parking/Business Cards/etc

[earnest flame]

I said starting strat, as in what I do while I prepare for endless

[cedar sable]

but doc is just

straight up

fucking insane

how tf do you even

[earnest flame]

its easy to start building your endless deck and jokers when you have couple cards keeping you alive

[ancient gyro]

black deck was intentionally left unchanged for years as the "challenge" deck

[solemn flume]

Ig that's fair

[brittle ocean]

Oh starting

Misread

[ancient gyro]

if my/docs blue stakes rework goes into play then -1 discard can be a decent downside

[cedar sable]

especial with C+ (iirc) with no death

[ancient gyro]

c++*

ive only done lossless c+

[earnest flame]

but yeah, I get like 200-300 chips on cards and im already aiming for retriggering effects for endless so those end up easily beating at least ante 8

[brittle ocean]

What’s the rework

[ancient gyro]

along with some other ppl here

[earnest flame]

and doing a lot of heavy work for 9 and 10

[lunar zealot]

Hello chat

[ancient gyro]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[brittle ocean]

Like hiker chips?

[lunar zealot]

i don't like the hiero petro rework

[earnest flame]

yeah

[ancient gyro]

well I don't like playing with 2 hands

[brittle ocean]

Oh do you usually do idol sock

[earnest flame]

hiker + hierophant and usually you find at least one foil on the way

[solemn flume]

Idk some people could argue the challenge is very nice but I also get the difference between the player having options to win vs the game having tools to punish bad decks is a very thin line to balance and I feel black is lacking the former

[brittle ocean]

Retrigger cards played?

[lunar zealot]

grumble grumble

Chud andrew

[earnest flame]

my end goal is almost always baron mime but I often end up doing some kind of half and half with either idol or some glass etc. until I can get baron properly running

depends on which I get first

if I end up with golden ticket then I almost always pivot through played hand triggers to held in hand

[ancient gyro]

sock idol ticket has better money ev per round and is slightly more voucher/boss blind agnostic

compared to rebate/parking

excluding crimson bean

antics

[earnest flame]

parking with no handsize vouchers is so painful

like for endless money farming

hence for me it usually is a pivot from idol to baron

rarely straight to baron except on white stake

[ancient gyro]

well burger snake naneinf, the most consistent method requires baron mime, along with the other two easier naneinf methods. you just pivot to it later than generally working on econ without any pivots

[earnest flame]

farming money with idol build just feels more comfortable

[ancient gyro]

it's the better farming method but you'll need to transition at some point

since sock idol alone can't naneinf

[warm wedge]

Died in a fire

[waxen quartz]

what? idol/repeat is naninf enough 🙂 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386889253258264627/1501691577997983774/Screenshot_20260506_170346.png?ex=6a063944&is=6a04e7c4&hm=bf9561c5f36bc310ea74a01c257ff3165c84bf5a944b56049f60a6467a26ca6c&

[serene forge]

awa

[waxen quartz]

you can do idol/full hand repeat with 15 jokers if red seal poly/glass I think?

(i.e. doable with chicot bug or crimbean bug. impractical except for ridiculous play otherwise)

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[earnest flame]

idol build and 600 steel kings drawn in hand

[waxen quartz]

440ish red seal steels just naninf. nothing else needed

[weak relic]

Perkeo gaming

[waxen quartz]

ya after patch there's not going to be much chance of naninf outside perkeo or a 1/billion seed

[earnest flame]

Jeff Bezos bootstraps naneinf when

[waxen quartz]

can't. rounding prob means you can't go above e16 or e17 cash

$e16 + $50 = $e16. floating point precision

[ancient gyro]

credits to floating point precision

[earnest flame]

if interest didnt have a cap and cash could go to naneinf how long would it take

[waxen quartz]

2k rounds? if it doubles it's 512 rounds. if 1.5 half that. etc...

was thinking plasma score. double that 🙂 like 3900 rounds

[earnest flame]

sounds like you can only reach it with generational wealth

[waxen quartz]

having more boots/bulls doesn't help. they're additive and the game would crash at a tiny fraction of the number needed

easier to do an eternal 100x cat or constellation or something

(i.e. almost practical)

[cedar sable]

whatthefuck

how

doc is too scary for me then

[earnest flame]

my 7000x cat with 7 copies was barely e50

[waxen quartz]

that'd only need 6 x that many. need to live to ante 25ish, not that bad

[earnest flame]

yeah, it just took till ante 39 to grow it that big though, with the last 2000x coming in the last 2 antes

[waxen quartz]

I try to keep my runs to hours, not weeks 🙂

[earnest flame]

it was about 30 hours, didnt keep track

[ancient gyro]

@versed sable

[earnest flame]

one hand was a bit under a minute, and I was hovering around 30 hands each round

they were over a minute when I had parking, it was so painful

[ancient gyro]

compared to ferns 10 minute hand animations

[earnest flame]

this is the last ante 39 im doing without speed up mods

I said last time

until the next time

[knotty zodiac]

hm neg photo implies that i should get rid of 1x vampire and hold nonface glass?

[ancient gyro]

nah

keep steel enhanced

[waxen quartz]

I need the keep track of double tag mod

[knotty zodiac]

ig sell vampire use glass if i find retrigger and there's emergency?

[ancient gyro]

i rather not

[waxen quartz]

hope for cavendish, get better +mult

[earnest flame]

how big is the vampire

[waxen quartz]

or roll a midas

[knotty zodiac]

not scaled yet

[waxen quartz]

feed it junk, see what happens, plenty of time to do something else

[ancient gyro]

your flat mult does a lot more than photo atm

[knotty zodiac]

but deciding soon bc the magicians ate going to start

[versed sable]

lame
-# /j

[waxen quartz]

pray to the chad gods

[earnest flame]

ignore the tempation for photochad and go for a giga vampire run

just think of the fella as temperance value

[waxen quartz]

fern $4.1m was much nicer than this guy 🙁

[ancient gyro]

pretend you're playing gsg

[ancient gyro]

i heard she peaked in personality at $3.5m

and then she sent me a friend request

[earnest flame]

pray for a perkeo and start copying magician/empress/hierophant and feed vampire that way for a actual gigachad run

[cosmic sun]

real and true

vamp gang

[waxen quartz]

well it's like 8k rerolls, that gets you half a negative copy joker on average?

[wanton magnet]

Oo mama 😍😍

[misty mango]

Did the mobile version of the game allow you to import saves

[earnest flame]

I did 6.5k rerolls and only worthwhile thing it got me was a nat negative brainstorm

[misty mango]

I was gonna say it’s a death by ante 3 small blind moment but you’ve got mult already

[earnest flame]

which is actually kinda lucky

[misty mango]

Real and Actual Baron angle

[earnest flame]

im still waiting for that nat negative showman

its my dream

[waxen quartz]

I get them. also neg troubador like all the time

[misty mango]

@wanton magnet here’s a fun question - can you also buy the voucher

[earnest flame]

I feel like ive gotten every single other nat negative except showman

and its the one thing im always looking

more like noshowman for me

ive gotten like 6 nat negative vagabonds

in the last 4 weeks

[random blade]

Yall my Tik Tok live access got removed because I was live streaming Balatro. The world of 2026 everyone🫩🫩

[earnest flame]

too bad they always arrive when im at +10k cash

[warm wedge]

???

[misty mango]

No gambling allowed

[wanton magnet]

Pulled a blue print from the wraith

[earnest flame]

where did mystic summit disappear

[wanton magnet]

No... BUT i got a better voucher called overstock!

[wanton magnet]

Sold so I could buy both baron and invisible joker

[misty mango]

Hex value

[wanton magnet]

Insane gamble, I wouldn't have done it if it wasnt a foil

[earnest flame]

[wanton magnet]

Sold mystic summit and hex to afford invis

[misty mango]

Early foils are so goated

[wanton magnet]

Real, when I find a mime I'll prolly roll the invis, or when im about to die...

But my run is insane en

Rn

[misty mango]

Don’t you invis early for the blueprint hit

[earnest flame]

if ur going for endless id actually sell baron and invis the bp

[misty mango]

Also an excuse to use ecto

[earnest flame]

oh yeah if invis is ready to pop then 100% id sell everything else, pop invis for bp and ecto

[wanton magnet]

BRO BRO BRO BRO QHAT IS THIS SEED

[misty mango]

ecto can’t hit invis here so it’s super goated

Aw no ecto

[wanton magnet]

Nvm you right

[misty mango]

I don’t know if I’m right it’s a real question

[wanton magnet]

I dont need it rn plus I can find it later cuz im on ghost deck

[misty mango]

Oh nice

[earnest flame]

check this roll tho

nat negative baron and mime

both useless

[warm wedge]

take baron for fun?

and tempreance, not that you would need it

[earnest flame]

I was already having to shuffle around to not accidentally naneinf and bug out the graphics

[earnest flame]

I did take it tho for fun and it was not so fun after all

[warm wedge]

accidentally naneinf is wild

[earnest flame]

that is bean for you

[ancient gyro]

@fern

[wanton magnet]

If i had a pussy rn it would be so wet bro

😭😭

[ancient gyro]

[earnest flame]

id we sweating about how im gonna score for the next round with unfixed deck

[regal wasp]

What do we think gamers

Is this the way balatro was meant to be played

[iron vigil]

-# balatro

[wanton magnet]

Do i go for the bait or no?

[misty mango]

Not until you get a square joker

[misty mango]

you clearly need the game winning lusty

[earnest flame]

what kind of hand levels do you have?

[wanton magnet]

Level 1 in everything...

Have got no planet cards that I want yet

[misty mango]

Unironically I think you buy the voucher and magician

[wanton magnet]

And im already scoring 600k with lusty

[earnest flame]

and 7 hand size?

[wanton magnet]

8

[earnest flame]

lets say you get a 4 of a kind and 3 kings in hand, with those jokers (no lusty) ur gonna score like 5k

[misty mango]

In one hand?

[earnest flame]

if I counted correctly

[wanton magnet]

Yes

[misty mango]

Oh heart flushes

[wanton magnet]

I have 1 heart steel isaac

Not red seal woops

[earnest flame]

you would need absurd draws

[misty mango]

Invis will show up again I guess

[earnest flame]

base level hands with baron and mime score so little

[wanton magnet]

But this run is already absurd

[misty mango]

In hand Mult is gold for you rn radio is right

[brittle ocean]

Real

[wanton magnet]

You're right though... my beautiful isaac

[brittle ocean]

Naneinf = you now have to sit in front of computer for hours

[misty mango]

lucky card it and more hands

Cry silently when heart debuff boss

[earnest flame]

I do my long runs on mobile so I can sit anywhere I want

which is usually the couch

[brittle ocean]

👀

[misty mango]

Holding on to an empress might be smart

[misty mango]

Is there a save transfer tool

[earnest flame]

baron early in the run is so painful

[foggy chasm]

tell me why ive spent prob 40 hours of gameplay trying to beat the gold stake on nebula deck 🙁

[brittle ocean]

After doing ante 39 on mobile one time I went straight to my laptop and got a speedup mod

I never wanna sit through that hell again

[earnest flame]

ive done a dozen and I always say I will never do it again

[misty mango]

I’m debating Balatro mobile but I hate the idea of my mobile overtaking my steam file

[earnest flame]

until I get an idea for something crazy and the stars align for a run

[brittle ocean]

It’s just so much more satisfying to click “remove animations” on Saturn and watch a serpent boss go by in a minute

[misty mango]

I can’t do this cause I know it will ruin normal Balatro for me

Especially watching it

I can’t imagine how you feel watching 1 speed gameplay lol

[earnest flame]

60+ handsize with bean bug and doing 5 retriggers on parking for every round from 8 to 39

try that

without speedups

30 hands with burger

5x4 parking/mime

[misty mango]

What’s the current most reasonable ante 39/naninf

[earnest flame]

you want easy and fast?

perkeo cryptid

id say

[misty mango]

I guess I meant non legendary but yeah perkeo cryptid for serpent makes sense

[earnest flame]

if you dont mind using bugs then id say bean bug is easy to pull off

[misty mango]

I thought that was gone but interesting

[earnest flame]

ante 8 bean bug with burglar and you pretty much have it there, get your copies of blueprints and you can naneinf every round if you want

or you can do a little bit on ante 8 and more on 16 and 24

[misty mango]

Is plasma white stake always best

[earnest flame]

just serpent + baron + mime for ante 39 still has ante 32 to get past which can be a bit tricky

[misty mango]

Or is there technically an argument for ghost or even yellow

[earnest flame]

there is nothing those decks can do that plasma cant

only thing I could see is if you want to naneinf with the hand size skip

[misty mango]

Oh right spectral card jokers I guess

[earnest flame]

omen globe too