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tall sapphire
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woah

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so pretty

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Down Bass card when

knotty zodiac
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is bootstraps ACKsually good here?

dire sage
tall sapphire
weak relic
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Oh hmm

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Idk I just dont really like the joker

dire sage
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how much mult on the red card

knotty zodiac
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21

atomic trout
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Not enough High Card

serene forge
atomic trout
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I did NANEIF wrong...

weak relic
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Huh

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Wym naneinf

terse imp
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it is done

weak relic
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You're not on the correct deck to begin with

atomic trout
light brook
weak relic
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Son

weak relic
tall sapphire
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dude i didint realise my balatro hours on discord

atomic trout
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Basically the kill screen

weak relic
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I got it thrice throughout this game

atomic trout
light brook
weak relic
atomic trout
weak relic
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This server really is full of intelligent folks

light brook
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guys can this naneinf

atomic trout
terse imp
light brook
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that’s how the pros do it at least

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and i’m no amateur

weak relic
atomic trout
terse imp
atomic trout
tall sapphire
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dude i genuinely have the worst luck ever i was thinking "needle would kill me" guess who showed up

knotty zodiac
light brook
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card sharp and needle is my favorite combo 🤤

atomic trout
light brook
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actually i take that back

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paradoelia and ride the bus 🤤

atomic trout
tall sapphire
weak relic
light brook
tall sapphire
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also my banana just died im ultra fucked

light brook
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wait how does andy work with burger

atomic trout
light brook
warm wedge
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order

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?

tall sapphire
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welp im dead but i find it funny that i got this out of all things perishable

weak relic
atomic trout
light brook
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figured

atomic trout
light brook
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got it so the order is andy then burger

atomic trout
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Burglar takes priority over Discards

hasty harness
hasty harness
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its not over yet

tall sapphire
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the thing is

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i didnt find anything in the shop that helped me

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so i died

hasty harness
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rip

atomic trout
light brook
atomic trout
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Four Fingers and short cut?

tall sapphire
light brook
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first ever run with good use of neptune???

atomic trout
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Now just find Smeared Joker

light brook
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my friends dad had a build once with those plus smeared and he somehow lost

atomic trout
tall sapphire
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did you ever wonder what were the three hidden planets and accidentaly got a five of a kind and go "im so stupid thats so obvious"

light brook
atomic trout
light brook
atomic trout
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House Flush

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House Flush is weird

light brook
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i hear a lot of ramble about 6 card hands but i don’t think many realize how problematic it is and how many new hand types that makes

light brook
atomic trout
atomic trout
light brook
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same

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it’s way harder to draw consistently

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you’re better off doing flush five 90% of the time

atomic trout
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Flushing the House... Needs a buff

light brook
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when she flush on the house 🤤

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why isn’t there a joker specifically for secret hands

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“add +20 mult when a secret hand is played”

atomic trout
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Then again. What jokers would you implement?

tall sapphire
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that would be cool

atomic trout
tall sapphire
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the redprint

warm wedge
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orangeprint*

tall sapphire
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no i hate orange

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its the reedprint i made it

atomic trout
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Like Ceremonial Dagger pinned to the left

light brook
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honestly a static xmult i would do

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or on a scaling idea maybe it could work kinda like obelisk but only for secret hands

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like you can’t play the same secret hand twice in a row but it scales xmult

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maybe like +.4x per hand

stone shell
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i would say a rare 5x if a secret hand is played but i think thats a bit much for how easy 5oak is to make

light brook
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or kinda like a punch card where once you play all 3 either it scales up or gives a huge xmult amount, maybe like 5x or 6x

plain ermine
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gold stake green deck beaten

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honestly expected it to be a lot harder than it was? like this particular run was miserable but not because of rentals and the orange and purple stake runs were easy

serene forge
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awa

plain ermine
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idk though, i kinda breezed through my initial stake climbs on plasma and now plasma kills me 90% of the time so i'll probably come back to green deck later and get my ass kicked

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black deck after this but that's for tomorrow

long fiber
plain ermine
long fiber
serene forge
plain ermine
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hex the popcorn. you know you want to.

long fiber
plain ermine
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no

long fiber
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thats what i thought just checking

serene forge
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here win

long fiber
flat tiger
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why immolate even give you $20, killing 5 cards is already strong AF, meawhile wraith takes all your money

blazing plinth
plain ermine
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immolate can't be controlled and outside of ghost deck it's rare to get it in your consumables. making you choose between money and deck fixing vs potentially destroying useful cards is fun imo

blazing plinth
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That too.

flat tiger
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wraith is rare too, and it sucks

blazing plinth
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And its entirely random what "rare" joker you get

plain ermine
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i think it's great that there's a spectral that reliably gives you a hit the road uglyfuck

flat tiger
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in fact wraith should give you $10, but you need to have an empty slot to use it

terse imp
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how is my lineup
(ignore the bottom row)

warm wedge
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???? r u dat reddit guy

terse imp
long fiber
bronze pollen
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Yo im playing on blue deck

blazing plinth
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Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down

terse imp
long fiber
bronze pollen
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I got wrathful and jimbo

warm wedge
brittle ocean
warm wedge
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no

ebon condor
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sphinxian blueprint: copies the joker to the left of the joker with the sell price closest to the median

warm wedge
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what the fuck happened to my reddit

cosmic sun
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layout lowkey better than the current

naive frigate
warm wedge
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lol

tall sapphire
naive frigate
tall sapphire
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perfect combo

naive frigate
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Copy the card to the right

warm wedge
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like what the fuck is this (at 80 % zoom)

warm wedge
warm wedge
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self obsessed

naive frigate
serene forge
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I hate Rare Tag

tall sapphire
serene forge
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I hate Negative Tag

naive frigate
naive frigate
warm wedge
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ok

long fiber
naive frigate
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But apparently it doesn't

serene forge
naive frigate
long fiber
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-# /silly 😛

serene forge
bronze pollen
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I was on the second ante of big blind i got 1480

stone shell
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mightve been the greatest judgement of all time hol' up

long fiber
stone shell
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completely dodges madness

serene forge
naive frigate
serene forge
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now just hope it doesn't copy chaos...

naive frigate
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IRL poker is more boring than balatro

long fiber
serene forge
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actually

warm wedge
serene forge
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what even happens if you get 2 chaos the clowns

bronze pollen
warm wedge
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2 free rolls?

stone shell
serene forge
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oh wow

naive frigate
long fiber
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i think

serene forge
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I guess that does make sense

long fiber
stone shell
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i mean nobody complained when madness did it

stone shell
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okay to be fair it was a 50/50 between xmult and not

bleak blaze
tall sapphire
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thats ur whole purpose you stupid

long fiber
naive frigate
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Damn

long fiber
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i got that before it was funny

naive frigate
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There's actually no explanation for perishable popcorn to exist

stone shell
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i dont know if im more pissed that i accidentally got a full madness roster or that tribe STILL didnt show up with double chaos

naive frigate
naive frigate
long fiber
naive frigate
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It makes sense on invis

stone shell
naive frigate
long fiber
naive frigate
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You can be saving invis for 3 antes

stone shell
naive frigate
stone shell
naive frigate
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Cavendish

long fiber
stone shell
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you pay the full cost for a faulty copy

naive frigate
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Rentals cost $1

naive frigate
stone shell
serene forge
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I hate persona 5 royal

errant hull
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How are we ladies and gents

heavy heron
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i sense a gay lesbian hornet

serene forge
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hey

heavy heron
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ohh that's where it was coming from

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hello there

flat tiger
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i guess my collector brain is at work

warm wedge
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my senses arent sensing

flat tiger
long fiber
dark lava
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JokerPokerBalala

naive frigate
knotty zodiac
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the uranus victory lap

flat tiger
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WTF is that red card

warm wedge
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red card ❌
shiny card ✅

atomic trout
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Another victory

digital pewter
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on my new profile i've unlocked all jokers excluding the four legendaries, as well as mr bones

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we're so goated

flat tiger
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is it just better to not unlock those bad jokers until you need stickers on them

digital pewter
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i mean, it kinda depends on which jokers one considers bad

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having more options is usually better than not

digital pewter
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they've all got a use one way or another

flat tiger
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satellite?

atomic trout
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Cloud 9 is better

foggy sun
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very interesting run I had here

atomic trout
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Rocket is best

atomic trout
foggy sun
digital pewter
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oh yeah and i unlocked the unholy bloodstone this run

foggy sun
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And yes chat, the holo was nat negative. easily carried the run

atomic trout
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I can't move this dagger

digital pewter
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that was the entire point of me doing it lol

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oh and on painted deck for the win with less than 4 jokers one

flat tiger
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i wont cry about not having blood stone or onyx in the pool

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or idol

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or hit the road

foggy sun
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Chat, give me a random deck to try to gold stake randomly. I need the entertainment of challenging myself

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(i got all gold stake, i just want a random deck to pick)\

flat tiger
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black deck

atomic trout
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It's a cheaper version of the campfire

foggy sun
atomic trout
foggy sun
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Yes

flat tiger
foggy sun
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Ok I got a two hander on blank. its over

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black*

atomic trout
atomic trout
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I like Jimbo

foggy sun
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Ok... this isn't going terribly... wouldve loved to get voucher but the rocket plus jolly is just gonna be important rn

shy tapir
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hi

atomic trout
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Rocket!!

foggy sun
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I love the ever so reliable rocket

atomic trout
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Best eco Joker

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And on Black Deck

foggy sun
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judgement having a brainstorm is genuinely miserable

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because... I HAVE NOTHING TO COPY

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well I do... just not enough to survive

flat tiger
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popcorn is good to copy at this stage

foggy sun
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Yes, but im struggling because once it goes, im basically toast rn

atomic trout
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Can't kill.... Bones

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Don't make me do it!

foggy sun
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this game has a sense of humour...

flat tiger
foggy sun
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Yeah...

atomic trout
# foggy sun

What, it's just an ordinary game.. oh my goodness!

foggy sun
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do i take the parking PURELY because it is chips and i need them badly

knotty zodiac
flat tiger
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why you put popcorn on right

foggy sun
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because its poly chrome... and therefore... xmult

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might sell for the parking rn

knotty zodiac
flat tiger
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foil is good at this stage

ember glen
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was begging for a trading card the entire run
ended up not getting it but i still won!
ghost deck and hologram is so incredibly busted

flat tiger
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i dont always get hologram but when I do standard packs go extint every time

ember glen
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drivers license!

atomic trout
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Goodbye Mr. Bones

ember glen
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WAIT
WHAT ARE YOU DOING

misty mango
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Holo is at 1.75, my deck is roughly 80% clubs/spades....
am I buying the dna and betraying square joker?

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low stake so honestly this doesnt matter at all

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but the decision is still escaping me

ember glen
knotty zodiac
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lmao what is this run

forced blueprint and now

misty mango
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like all level 2s

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had to get that red card up

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it worked! square and red card are trashing blinds

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but i cant scale square fast enough

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cause i keep winning too soon

ember glen
misty mango
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yeah but the holo and three of a kind feel like my win conditions

ember glen
ember glen
misty mango
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i do that, its red stake lol

lime remnant
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oh my GOD

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BRO I DIDNT READ THE BOSS BLIND AND SKIPPED THE SHORTCUT LIKE AN IDIOT

misty mango
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its white stake just win with the 3oak /s

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I hate forgetting about boss blinds

lime remnant
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omg i could have won the blind if i used the justice

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what am i on

atomic trout
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Why not Ancient Joker. I'll use them on the debuffed Spades 🤣

echo sphinx
flat tiger
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me when I make a bunch of wild cards and 4 boss blind shuts me down:

tall sapphire
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I think spanish lenguage achievements in balatro are broken

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in steam

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This is the achievement i got for playing a royal flush, the description says break two glass cards in a single hand, which is the achievement for shattered

flat tiger
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REAL!

thorn kraken
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Anyone got general tip for highscoring in baltro? It feels like a lot of videos where people hit insanely high numbers are super rng dependant with them finding everything they need for a perfect combo underhalf way through the run

tall sapphire
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now looking for it, this achievement is for winning a run without rerolling the shop, the description for it says "Have a Deck with more than 80 cards"

brittle ocean
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Still rng dependent with vouchers but with enough money you should be able to get the jokers you need (typically baron mime and a bunch of copy jokers)

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And get diet colas to sell for double tags for voucher skips

atomic trout
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My god... What a team 😸

lime remnant
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pensive

crisp perch
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One of the weirdest builds I’ve had so far

humble gulch
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That's the most normal looking thing ever

crisp perch
humble gulch
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Grim is pretty good even without hologram

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I love grim

crisp perch
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Is this normal too then 🥀

humble gulch
crisp perch
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Main rzn y the run was weird

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I was running pairs n somehow winning

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That’s a nice ace

abstract jackal
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whats the best deck to get the "30 suits in your deck" jokers?

humble gulch
abstract jackal
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i needa get the diamond one for all jokers

crisp perch
crisp perch
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How nice of balatro to give me a good r8 boss blind for once

abstract jackal
crisp perch
patent sail
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i just died to serpent

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impossible

patent sail
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thats where i got mine

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but it does take an orange stake win to unlock if you dont have it

past locust
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Chat, what should i sell

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Should i get rid of luchaegg

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Ima get ricd of lucha

ionic badge
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chicot incoming

thin finch
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this bish cant decide what direction he wanna go blueprint

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thats greedy joker in the poly yeh

tall sapphire
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i wanna 1 in 6 myself

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i was about to do my first orange stake win dudeee

past locust
heavy heron
abstract jackal
heavy heron
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you got violet vessel’d..

slow iris
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🔥

heavy heron
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any other boss you win, it is what it is

tall sapphire
tall sapphire
heavy heron
tall sapphire
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also in the early stage of the run i barely got twos in hand so i didnt upgrade wee joker that much, just barely enough to keep going, later i even got to play five of a kinds of twos

heavy heron
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yeah it kinda sucks when you don’t get many opportunities to fix your deck the way you need it

past locust
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Arcana or buffoon 🤔

heavy heron
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tarot packs sometimes just aren’t enough, and tarot jokers (or purple seals) just aren’t guaranteed finds

past locust
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Ion have nough enhance cards

slow iris
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it's gonna be hard to get some if you're not saving your money for interest

past locust
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NAT NEG

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But damn, i have no money

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Should i?

clear mulch
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negative isnt always good

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you arent forced to take them

dark lava
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JokerPokerBalala

past locust
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Crypt the k or the j

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Im gonna tyrn them all into clubs anyways

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After i get gluttony joker

thorn kraken
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this hiker is kinda goated

past locust
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Two souls in two runs in a row

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Ima get rich of greedy

humble gulch
past locust
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I got trib

clear mulch
humble gulch
warm wedge
past locust
warm wedge
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i lost a lot of my run

warm wedge
past locust
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Worst neg tag

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I got holo

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But wait

warm wedge
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hol

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e

past locust
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Should i get it

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Im gonna get hella lot cards

lime remnant
dapper ferry
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What can be the best joker order for scoring here

tall sapphire
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im on ante 2 i have goten 4 tags, im not taking em though i need to scale

vale shale
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Food morning

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Helo gamers. 1 take gold stake run any deck. Which deck are we thinking bout.

dapper ferry
vale shale
dapper ferry
vale shale
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If you copy chad it's 12 trigs of photo

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If you copy photo it's also 12 trigs

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If my math is correct

dapper ferry
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Copy the cat for best score ig

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?

vale shale
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Nop

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Photo or chad is better

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Than 21x

thorn kraken
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I love getting peak mime settup and then watching as I spend like $60 rerolling to still end up with 2 steel cards

vale shale
thorn kraken
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this game hates me

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heres the amazing jokers and shit cards

humble gulch
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I can finally sticker Perkeo and get Chicot, Canio and Yorick again 😭

flat tiger
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grossbo carry

vale shale
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I like how to te game detects a new legendary if you haven't got it gold stickered

dapper ferry
flat tiger
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its just 2.5 flush pairs

vale shale
vale shale
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Lucky cat is just worse overall

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Or you can use a balatro calculator

dapper ferry
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Okay ill test it

dapper ferry
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Thanks man

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Ill check it out

humble gulch
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I hate Perkeo so much

hoary moon
tall sapphire
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second time losing the last blind on orange stake....

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this is what happens when i need eternal jokers for madness to work and the game decides to not give me any

hoary moon
tall sapphire
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having to rely on missprint is bad

hoary moon
tall sapphire
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i have madness

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that limits me to eternal jokers only

hoary moon
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oh lmao

tall sapphire
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i cant have base mult

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i relied on planet cards

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and whatever the shop gave me

dapper ferry
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@hoary moon
Which joker should i be looking for and for what

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I got 600 bucks

thorn kraken
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I think this is gonna be good

grim willow
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can someone help me with a naneinf run rq i posted the situation in run discussion

hoary moon
tall sapphire
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this is so cursed

dapper ferry
hoary moon
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to only kings

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it goes crazy

thorn kraken
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haha real funny game

dapper ferry
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But isnt that like 5 kings played
@hoary moon

thorn kraken
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im playing 5oak kings and it gives me this

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very funny

raven raven
thorn kraken
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ante 9 isnt a baron seed

raven raven
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u just didnt see it early

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it was there

dapper ferry
hoary moon
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and better if theyre only 1 suit

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it needs HEAVY deck fixing

dapper ferry
cedar sable
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or trading card

dapper ferry
cedar sable
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or anything that removes cards in general

cedar sable
dapper ferry
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Yes im doing that already

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And should i look for blueprint
Replacing socknbusk

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?

cedar sable
hoary moon
dapper ferry
hoary moon
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you could change it for a utility joker

dapper ferry
hoary moon
cedar sable
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until you only have face cards left

hoary moon
thorn kraken
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bruh I played all my kings in my deck and now im cooked

cedar sable
dapper ferry
cedar sable
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also why bull

fringe nebula
hoary moon
thorn kraken
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if only I didnt spend all my econ fishing for literally anything to replace my utility jokers

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and finding nothing

hoary moon
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js anything that could help your build

dapper ferry
thorn kraken
cedar sable
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damn you only have 1 6

humble gulch
cedar sable
cedar sable
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but with that low amounts of 6

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don't

humble gulch
fringe nebula
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I thought my previous pfp share similar vibes to this one

cedar sable
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and flat mults

fickle glen
#

genuinely looked at this in Warframe and was like "oh Balatro reference!"

humble gulch
thorn kraken
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and I play 5oak

cedar sable
thorn kraken
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with my glass kings

cedar sable
#

wait

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lemme check again

thorn kraken
#

4x then 3x then 4x then 2x

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and I was hitting respectable millions

cedar sable
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i would get retriggers

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like sock

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or seltzer

thorn kraken
#

he never showed up

cedar sable
#

damn

fringe nebula
thorn kraken
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I died ante 11

cedar sable
thorn kraken
humble gulch
cedar sable
thorn kraken
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like none

cedar sable
#

.

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no wonder

thorn kraken
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I buy spectral cards in the shop but packs are rare

cedar sable
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ok so like

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I'm guessing that you didn't get deja vu

thorn kraken
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Ive found like 2 packs my last like 4 runs combined

cedar sable
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and i forgot what mime does

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lemme check

thorn kraken
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mime retriggers all hand effects

vale shale
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Generational tag save

thorn kraken
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baron gives 1.5x per king in hand

humble gulch
thorn kraken
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i was playing 5oak kings

cedar sable
#

guh

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mime is

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retrigger in hand

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not playing hand

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then yeah it sucks

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death of no retriggers

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either that or no base mult

thorn kraken
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cant run base mult

cedar sable
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uhh planet cards

thorn kraken
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no shit

cedar sable
#

also why

thorn kraken
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brainstorm copies the effect of the joker furthest to the left

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which is my 4x joker

thorn kraken
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if I wanted base mult it would need to go before the times mult or it wouldnt be worth using

tall sapphire
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after two ante 8 boss blind fails i made it barely

thorn kraken
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that overides my brainstorm

cedar sable
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I'm talking about base mult from planet cards

thorn kraken
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and instead of 4x 3x 4x 2x

cedar sable
#

if you played glass cards

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i wouldn't recommend using flat mult jokers

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i would prefer get planet cards instead

thorn kraken
cedar sable
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in that way i get more scoring

thorn kraken
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ITS LIKE

cedar sable
#

whatever

thorn kraken
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NO DUH

cedar sable
#

I'm not talking ts anymore

thorn kraken
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thats like saying id prefer using jokers to get higher score

ancient acorn
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is there a way to play 3 player balatro?

cedar sable
ancient acorn
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4 player?

cedar sable
#

no

ancient acorn
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i got the game for 2 others

cedar sable
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only 2 i think

cedar sable
#

uhhhh

ancient acorn
#

thats insane

cedar sable
#

idk

thorn kraken
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what are the odds its definitly gonna destroy brainstorm

tall sapphire
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50/50

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because

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its two jokers

echo sphinx
thorn kraken
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well actually its 100% because its the joker I want to keep

tall sapphire
#

yeah if u think it that way ur right

thorn kraken
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thats why I skipped that blind

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and went to the boss

tall sapphire
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thats why u only run madness on purple stake or higher

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otherwise is just gamble it all

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put a lot of food in there so it doesnt die

echo sphinx
#

no guarantees

humble gulch
thorn kraken
#

as long as this riff raff stays ill be fine

thorn kraken
humble gulch
#

You're just fine with only madness

echo sphinx
#

lets go gambling

humble gulch
thorn kraken
#

double madness with brainstorm

echo sphinx
#

this is truly madness

thorn kraken
#

actually new question if I double madness with like anhk or something will they destroy each other?

humble gulch
echo sphinx
thorn kraken
humble gulch
icy turret
#

Finally found the last ankh

echo sphinx
#

what the fuck

humble gulch
thorn kraken
#

shit like this is why I never trust youtube videos on how to get better scores in balatro

#

because every video of someone playing ends up with stuff like that

echo sphinx
#

lol

#

go to balatro uni for actual guides

thorn kraken
#

I swear every other balatro video is seeded

icy turret
#

This was unseeded shockingly

humble gulch
thorn kraken
#

yeah keep telling yourself that

echo sphinx
icy turret
thorn kraken
#

I just entirely doubt you found 4 anhks in the same run when they show up maybe once per 10 runs on average

echo sphinx
#

highrolls feel "seeded" and are too different from how most runs should be won

humble gulch
#

It's actually pretty easy

#

Even more with card blocking

thorn kraken
#

IVE FISHED WITH HUNDREDS NOTHING

humble gulch
#

I actually have a lot of runs with ankh spam

#

Lol

thorn kraken
#

im told rng doesnt matter in this game

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people said rng isnt actually a factor

humble gulch
echo sphinx
#

rng is the factor what

thorn kraken
echo sphinx
#

the entire game is based on chance

icy turret
#

Rng matters some but its mitigated a lot by having good econ

thorn kraken
#

nope actually just have good econ

icy turret
#

Kinda hard to not have money for rerolls when everything is lucky and gold sealed

humble gulch
#

RNG is mitigated by knowing how to use the things you get

thorn kraken
#

RNG is mitigated by just starting with every econ card in the first shop and finding the most broken combo on the first reroll of every shop

thorn kraken
#

its all I ever see for any posted run is perfect deck construction and 0 wasted joker slots with like 2 gold cards worth of econ

echo sphinx
#

hot take
u both spouting nonsense

thorn kraken
#

im stuck over here with like 50 gold cards of econ 50 rerolls down the drain to find all commons for the 50th time in a row

#

or another stupid ass suit changing tarot card that does nothing

humble gulch
#

You don't need any crazy jokers to win tho

#

Or deck fixing

thorn kraken
#

you do

echo sphinx
#

rng is rng
it defines what choices to take to beat the run

u cant just "mitigate it" by knowing how to use it

thorn kraken
#

becuase you lose without it

humble gulch
echo sphinx
cloud sinew
#

no such seed exists

echo sphinx
#

this is super rng

humble gulch
cloud sinew
#

that doesnt mean you can do whatever and win all the time

thorn kraken
# humble gulch

constilation is one of the most consistent joker cards in the entire game and imo one of the best choices always considerng you can reroll insane amounts of planet cards to stack it high

#

im seeing really good jokers here still

lost vault
#

meow

echo sphinx
icy turret
#

Chat this is so sad

humble gulch
thorn kraken
#

hologram is more rng dependant then constilation due to the amount of packs and stuff but still its really easy to make them op

cloud sinew
# echo sphinx also rng

just because there are random elements doesnt mean you are at the mercy of RNG. whether you win a run or not is dictated by your choices, not RNG

humble gulch
#

I almost died 4 times here ❤️‍🩹

icy turret
cloud sinew
humble gulch
#

Blaming the RNG for losing it's most of the time just a skill issue

thorn kraken
vale shale
shell dagger
#

planet cards are not in every shop considering you have finite money

echo sphinx
shell dagger
#

naur

cloud sinew
#

how?

shell dagger
#

doc has shown that not to be the case

#

all a successful run requires is beating ante 8

echo sphinx
#

if game decides to hand out eternal rentals and no planets early, how to beat?

#

empress two cards and pray

cloud sinew
#

also

#

theres a seed with only planets in shop

icy turret
#

XC5HYT86

cloud sinew
#

and its winnable

icy turret
#

o7 was fun

shell dagger
#

a run doesn’t require gold stake to be winnable

past locust
#

Should i get rid of greedy for Smiley

echo sphinx
shell dagger
past locust
#

Its better mult and i have chad

echo sphinx
humble gulch
echo sphinx
#

the game is fundamentally rng

#

and agree with lilo

#

rhat skill can make up most of it

cloud sinew
#

prove me wrong by finding an unbeatable seed

echo sphinx
#

lol thatll take epns

icy turret
#

Tarot and spectral blocking, managing econ and buy order are huge

cloud sinew
#

any deck any stake

echo sphinx
#

that sounds fun ngl

#

instead of finding neg perkeo ante 1 its find a seed that cant be beaten

#

probably not "period" but "cant be beaten without future information"

cloud sinew
past locust
#

I remove card for blueprint?

icy turret
cedar sable
shell dagger
#

business if you don’t care about endless

cloud sinew
#

if it can be beaten with future info then it can be beaten without it

icy turret
#

Money is too good

past locust
#

Okey, smiley it is

cedar sable
#

and i would retrigger trib

#

for it

echo sphinx
shell dagger
#

but some people would’ve made that decision

#

doesn’t mean it was the decision that led to the highest chance of winning

cloud sinew
echo sphinx
#

taking emperor ante 1 small blind results in $0 after an unlucky buffoon

shell dagger
#

like how in some doc video it was a very close run that he died to first try and all the comments were saying if you open the arcana pack in shop 1 you’ll get holo rocket from judgement

#

no rightminded winstreak player would do that, but clearly people did

echo sphinx
#

are you seriously blocking with 0 interest

shell dagger
#

some people are

echo sphinx
#

i would cuz im greedy

#

i shouldnt

lost vault
#

meow again

echo sphinx
#

meow

cloud sinew
echo sphinx
#

tine to pull out random orange stake

cloud sinew
#

if even you would do it without future info then you understand what im saying about it being the same

echo sphinx
lost vault
#

okay but without future info youd have to play pretty strangely

echo sphinx
#

i hex ankh knowing its worse than trance cryptid

lost vault
#

presumable

#

yo

cloud sinew
#

there is no proven optimal strategy, so theres no way to show that something isnt optimal without furure info

shell dagger
lost vault
#

yea

shell dagger
#

ye

echo sphinx
#

thats a different kind of strange

#

taking a small blind tarot pack for hermit for one extra dollar which is needed to exact change aj because you know there's deckfixing tarots and Trading card ahead is not something that would be considered "normal" by any stretch

cloud sinew
sturdy lotus
#

i just got the game, is the best way to progress to make builds with your jokers?

echo sphinx
#

the best scenario without future info is to simply gamble the buffoon pack

icy turret
#

This is so dumb

echo sphinx
#

you don't know there's a hermit in the pack without buying it

cloud sinew
cloud sinew
#

and then find out

#

its not off limits

echo sphinx
cloud sinew
echo sphinx
#

you prove it

#

im worse

#

im trying to play better

shell dagger
cloud sinew
shell dagger
#

not everyone is gunning for 100% winstreak

echo sphinx
#

coupd make ir as convoluted as i want and you'll still say "yeah people would do that"

shell dagger
#

exactly

echo sphinx
#

ok

echo sphinx
#

lets say this particular seed has a midas vampire

shell dagger
#

there’s only a finite number of actions

echo sphinx
#

but its locked behind 13 rerolls on ante 2

icy turret
#

Confirmation bias is eating good in this chat

echo sphinx
#

and nothing else of value other than like. earth neptune mars in planet pack

icy turret
#

Those are valuable

shell dagger
#

before we were talking about decisions directly available to the player

#

if you can’t make that money in ante 2 obviously nobody will find it

cloud sinew
#

also 13 rerolls is likely impossible that early

#

~$150 by ante 2

humble gulch
shell dagger
#

ye

cloud sinew
echo sphinx
#

and the only way to achieve that only win con is to block a very specific tarot to repeatedly get hermits

shell dagger
#

so the money can be made

echo sphinx
#

which switches every reroll (that is, buying like Justice to block a future Justice)

cloud sinew
shell dagger
#

and refer to the previous argument

cedar sable
#

i wouldn't open it either

shell dagger
#

95% of people wouldn’t

#

(going for gold stake win streak)

cedar sable
#

if doc's joker setup is good

cloud sinew
#

just because i wouldnt do it doesnt mean it isnt optimal

echo sphinx
#

the hypothetical scenario says this is the optimal and only win condition

lost vault
#

its actually quite impossible to be perfectly optimal on a random seed i think

cedar sable
#

what was the cards anyways

echo sphinx
#

no square no Dusk no Banner

shell dagger
#

square???

shell dagger
#

wat

echo sphinx
#

i sob

cedar sable
#

if you don't have canio tho

cloud sinew
#

we already said if its possible and the only win con then yes, refer to previous argument

cedar sable
#

with gold sticker

#

it goes hard

#

with pareidolia

echo sphinx
#

ye if i could get it

lost vault
#

balatro chat always has the strangest debates

cedar sable
icy turret
shell dagger
#

there’s no arbitrary line where it gets crossed when the decision making is too weird

cedar sable
icy turret
#

Like if you are in a run and just ask yourself what the run is missing, and what you need to do to fix that you MAY come to that win con

echo sphinx
cedar sable
#

for gold stake runs (if i want to do it soon)

cedar sable
#

what should i manage first

echo sphinx
#

and more so if i make it even more convoluted and say

cloud sinew
#

i do it all the time

cedar sable
#

econ or deck fixing

echo sphinx
#

you need to block with Hermit to get a Fool

icy turret
#

I do that all the time to farm deaths

lost vault
echo sphinx
#

and on and on it goes

lost vault
cedar sable
#

I would never use s*n in my life

#

for a reason

cloud sinew
past locust
strong pier
#

I had to do it to them

cedar sable
#

imo

#

i forgot what grim does

past locust
#

3 reacts and i ecto

humble gulch
shell dagger
#

hex!

icy turret
#

have hermit + fool in inventory
Use hermit first before rerolling/opening packs/next shop
If you find hermit again, use it and then fool's hermit

echo sphinx
cedar sable
shell dagger
cloud sinew
shell dagger
#

also it’s not unrealistic if you have the hook or something

#

anything to guarantee the 5 card hand

cedar sable
#

the hook

echo sphinx
#

ok fine i guess we just need to find a seed that's this diabolical

cloud sinew
echo sphinx
#

then only can the say "the game needa some rng"

humble gulch
#

Why blocking then?

cloud sinew
icy turret
cloud sinew
#

theyre keeping the Fool as a Hermit

humble gulch
#

Ah

icy turret
#

Leaving hermit in the card pool so its possible to encounter again

humble gulch
#

🐑

icy turret
#

people use fool to fast all the time

#

I hold onto that lil dude if i can

lost vault
#

fool for hermit always

echo sphinx
#

block hermit to get a fool then buy the fool and reroll to buy hanged man instead of the star and a tarot gets blocked twice to encounter hermit again which is conveniently enough for the win condition

lost vault
#

trust

echo sphinx
#

if someone does that then im gg

cedar sable
#

how does one get joker role

lost vault
cedar sable
#

ah

lost vault
#

(initially)

#

idk avout others

minor portal
echo sphinx
cedar sable
#

hollup

thorn kraken
#

well it seems ive played too greedy

cedar sable
#

lemme remove a boost

lost vault
thorn kraken
#

I need more deck fixing

lost vault
#

im so confused what ar u trying to prove here

cedar sable
#

only 3 days but still worth it

echo sphinx
lost vault
#

i mean

echo sphinx
#

never saying skill isn't a factor

lost vault
#

its not required

#

but

#

it usually is

cedar sable
#

lol it adds nothing

lost vault
#

just not always

#

reason

#

no impossible seed has been found

#

i think!!

cedar sable
#

xd

#

whatever it'll going to end in 3 days

thorn kraken
#

I think if I get a hit on one of these lucky tags I probably live

echo sphinx
#

we haven't been searching hard for impossible seeds

icy turret
#

Bad rng makes it harder.
Good rng makes it easier
Well thought out decisions mitigate bad luck and make good decisions even more valuable

shell dagger
humble gulch
lost vault
cedar sable
#

i forgor what's it

#

role icon

compact niche
#

me: one more run before bed, shouldn't take long

me after like 2 hours:

(only ever got to 13 once before so this was a new best for me)

echo sphinx
#

people go out finding photochad, neg perkeo, baronmime
never an impossible seed

cedar sable
#

no icon

#

no color

lost vault
#

uh

#

okay

echo sphinx
compact niche
#

oh yeah that run was gold stake too

lost vault
#

kindess should not be expected to be rewarded ir something

thorn kraken
#

ive been getting really lucky here

compact niche
#

i had bad luck during the endless section on not getting better xmults

thorn kraken
#

2/5 chance is close to half tho so idk

compact niche
#

quesiton: if retrigger expires can it show up again in the shop or is it gone for good?

waxen fable
#

wym retrigge expires

shell dagger
#

wdym expires

#

like perishable?

humble gulch
lost vault
#

who is retrigger

compact niche
minor portal
waxen fable
lost vault
#

what the fluff

shell dagger
echo sphinx
#

¿?

rustic haven
#

hi

echo sphinx
#

tao, yeah

cedar sable
rustic haven
#

no

lost vault
shell dagger
#

ohh

cedar sable
icy turret