🕹・game-discussion

[languid flower]

win with no jokers on all stakes

if you're that good then well done you're a c+++ player

[warm wedge]

jokerles- no antimatter, buffon packs, judgements, jokers, souls, etc

[final escarp]

jokerless naneinf black deck gold stake

[halcyon shoal]

Halfway to getting c++ on this stake actually

[final escarp]

it’s technically possible

[halcyon shoal]

I think that counts as c++++

[humble gulch]

Is better than Trib and Perkeo

[warm wedge]

??????????!?!?!?

[brave pecan]

what jokers should i go for on checkered blue stake

[humble gulch]

The ones that score

[halcyon shoal]

NOT bloodstone thats for sure

[humble gulch]

You don't play for specific jokers

[green apex]

something that helps you win

[languid flower]

something suit-related but not

[green apex]

essentially whatever the game throws at you and you think its good

[brave pecan]

alright

[warm wedge]

showman

helps you score

[green apex]

definitely

[warm wedge]

exactly

[halcyon shoal]

Chicot

[final escarp]

the order I play the game might be cursed

[warm wedge]

90090823905782039579823 polychrome showmans would do it

[green apex]

showman is so broken, you can get a blueprint and get another blueprint

[halcyon shoal]

He technically has naneinf potential

[warm wedge]

and another blueprint!

[warm wedge]

manacle

[final escarp]

1. 99% completionist (currently missing magic trick voucher 2)
2. First Gold Stake! (Checkered Deck)
3. Second Gold Stake! (Black Deck)
4. Doing anaglyph deck gold stake rn for C++
5. In the future do all the challenges
6. Finish up C+

:)

[warm wedge]

same for #1

[halcyon shoal]

BLACK DECK AS YOUR SECOND ONE

Actually based as hell

Black deck isn’t even actually that hard tbh

[final escarp]

dw abt my gold stake run

might be the most cursed thing ive done

(check bottom left)

[warm wedge]

the fuck is even that

[halcyon shoal]

Round 9 gulp

Eternal egg gulp

[warm wedge]

💀

1, if not 2 eternal throwback

[humble gulch]

Just why

[final escarp]

it was 2

[humble gulch]

Eternal egg is actually good most of the time

[final escarp]

I took it in the last shop tho

for the sticker

[halcyon shoal]

Still a ballsy play

[humble gulch]

Not really, you only need 3 scoring jokers to win

[final escarp]

when you get a poly throwback and an ankh its pretty good scaling

[halcyon shoal]

Everytime I take eternal egg like two temprances show up for the entire game

[icy hollow]

Eternal egg isnt any worse than eternal of any other econ joker tbh

[humble gulch]

Real

[halcyon shoal]

I just have a bad relationship with it

[icy hollow]

So u gained 6 dollars per round for the egg u held

Lol

[warm wedge]

baron + mime + perkeo?

[final escarp]

chips + mult + xmult

[warm wedge]

i have a problem with mail in it just never hits

[brave pecan]

aight polychrome photograph and showman on ante 2

not that bad

[final escarp]

or mult + xmult + xmult

or chips + chips + mult + plasma

[halcyon shoal]

sweats in having been playing on a modded stake for the past couple months where the final boss is 1.8 mill

[warm wedge]

sly, jimbo, seeing double. beat a run with that

[final escarp]

jokerless exists

usually you want scaling jokers though was the intention

[icy hollow]

Red card + red card + red card

[halcyon shoal]

Truth nuke

[icy hollow]

✍️

[tardy spade]

foil red card + holo red card + poly red card

if you open a mega celestial pack and only need 1 planet from it, is there any reason not to use one of the other planets before it, since you can take 2

[final escarp]

in ante 39 the game is more likely to crash the more time you spend in it, and the animation of the boss blind decreasing the level of the hand will take slightly more time to possibly crash the game

[halcyon shoal]

Only thing I can think of is not taking levels in hands you dont want to score much in

[final escarp]

after naneinf if you crash you cant reopen

[cloud sinew]

fool target

[humble gulch]

Plasma violet vessel is 2.4m

[tardy spade]

if you're using the planet you want immediately after it doesn't make a difference

mega celestial

[halcyon shoal]

Violet vessel in that mod is 5 mill

[cloud sinew]

which is assuming thats the case.

you didnt say that was the case

[thin wasp]

whoopsies

[tardy spade]

"before it" it referring to "you only need 1 planet from [the celestial pack]" implying that the planet you need is actually there

[cloud sinew]

that was not clear

[tardy spade]

ok, well assume the mega celestial does have the planet you want

[cloud sinew]

if you dont have red card then no theres no downside

[tardy spade]

oh yeah red card is a good consideration

[clear mulch]

equine stake

🐎

[humble gulch]

Bro

[warm wedge]

?

[humble gulch]

Free win

[warm wedge]

ok

[tardy spade]

imagine if you could swap editions of jokers. Would make negative skips more valuable

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[tardy spade]

although I don't think the intention of skips is to be a common take

I think they're meant to be the incredibly niche but occasionally run saving things they are

[humble gulch]

Free win

[clear mulch]

meow

hi

[heady laurel]

Gold stake black deck

Im finally free

[tardy spade]

why does the discard count go down after discarding, but the hand count goes down before scoring?

[humble gulch]

Another free win

[brave echo]

banner and buisness card seem quite good

are they?

[humble gulch]

Business is fine

Banner it's kind of mid

[brave echo]

also does the money from egg stack

[humble gulch]

What do you mean

[brave echo]

like

if it already got 3 dollars sell value from finishing the round

would it go up again

[humble gulch]

Yes

That's the whole point

[brave echo]

oh thats broken

[humble gulch]

Not really

[brave echo]

is this good?

[ebon condor]

its solid

[brave echo]

alright ill buy it

[ebon condor]

wtf why are you find the plugs

[brave echo]

wait that goes really well with banner

oh

[ebon condor]

i just noticed that

[brave echo]

because i can

[ebon condor]

sure

[brave echo]

also i think that it looks cool

ill just keep egg until i get smth better

and dont have enough space

[crystal berry]

I love vampire and Midas mask now

[brave echo]

is matador good

[strange compass]

How do I beat this challenge

[cloud sinew]

play pairs and then play high card

its very free

[humble gulch]

I love erosion

[humble gulch]

Free challenge

Spam pairs then high card

[strange compass]

Pairs from ante 1? I am asking cuz they don't score that early

[cloud sinew]

obviously not

[strange compass]

So get interest and then play pairs

[cloud sinew]

you play what you need to survive

then play pairs as soon as is suitable

[humble gulch]

HUUHHHHUHH

"Here, win"

[strange compass]

Ok

[clear mulch]

obito, is that you?

[strange compass]

I got this Erosion yesterday from the Fragile Challenge

[strange compass]

What game is this

[brave echo]

i think it might be

balatro but with chess

[clear mulch]

Gambonanza

[brave echo]

i saw it when i was looking for a game to get

[clear mulch]

Balatro 2

[brave echo]

the tooth does literally nothing with matador

aw nvm

it doesnt activate

[tawdry epoch]

I was in hell, looking at heaven.

[subtle drum]

js take it bro

😭

4 of the most goated jokers in the game

[brave echo]

is there any way to survive

[echo sphinx]

straight and pray lol

[brave echo]

yeah i died

[echo sphinx]

fym u died with strush

[brave echo]

ooh black deck sounds good ngl

[modest mist]

idk if there's a point to playing this game

[humble gulch]

The straight flush win

[modest mist]

i can't even get past the first deck on the first stake

[tawdry epoch]

I fucking hate this game i accidentally used oujia instead of tailsman

[brave echo]

OH SHOOT I DIDNT REALISE

[tawdry epoch]

bro its abandoned deck

[humble gulch]

Of course there's not, this game is not mandatory...

[tawdry epoch]

and the only goat here is blueprint

[brave echo]

I COULD HAVE DONE ACE KING QUEEN JACK

AND I WOULD HAVE SURVIVED7

[echo sphinx]

yes

[brave echo]

well too late for that

[modest mist]

it's js difficult, i guess

like, idk what i'm doing wrong. it's red deck on white stake, and i always fail at around ante 5

[tawdry epoch]

Can i feasibly recover from an accidental oujia usage on abandoned (all 5s)

[humble gulch]

Balatro is on the easier spectrum of roguelikes, but like, it's more complex in a way since there's basically complete free will

[modest mist]

I guess im js an idiot then, seeing as how im failing the literal easiest deck

[ember glen]

balatro pocket edition
i forgot you could resize the windows this small

[humble gulch]

Not really, this game is harder to get used to

[ember glen]

great for multitasking

[modest mist]

Idk if I keep pushing my luck too hard, trying to js push the boss blind early

Like, I skipped the small blind for the investment tag

And now im alr gonna lose

[subtle drum]

oh lmao

[tawdry epoch]

Can we add a confirm option to spectral cards

[humble gulch]

RIFF RAFF, WHY THE FUCK DID YOU GAVE ME PHOTOCHAD

[echo sphinx]

instant win

[humble gulch]

Mime is so good

[subtle drum]

are you complaining

[humble gulch]

Kind of

[undone talon]

Why

Photo chad is so fun

[humble gulch]

Photochad is mediocre

[undone talon]

But fun

[humble gulch]

Not really

[undone talon]

😞😞

[dark lava]

JokerPokerBalala

[spring radish]

y

[humble gulch]

Free win

[subtle drum]

not at all

why are we larping

photochad is glazed for a good reason

[humble gulch]

Do you really want me to tell you why even tho I already did it like 10 times in general ❤️‍🩹

[subtle drum]

i mean you don’t have to

i don’t mind

[brave pecan]

how the hell does this build i have actually work

[humble gulch]

x64 from both photos and chad, second hand played is another x3 which is x192

I didn't include hologram because I don't know how much xmult it has

[brave pecan]

x2.75

[modest mist]

yet another loss

this is pathetic. i should've beaten this by now, but no. i just seem to continue to fail at the easiest things -._-.

[humble gulch]

Second hand played has x528

[brave pecan]

easy plasma unlock first hand

endless mode cause why not

[humble gulch]

How many hours do you have?

[modest mist]

Almost 3

[humble gulch]

Son ❤️‍🩹

[modest mist]

I bought this last night

[humble gulch]

Just keep playing, nobody is born with the knowledge

[modest mist]

But I've seen gameplay clips of this prior, so I should know how to do it

[strange compass]

So I found stone joker on the Monolith challenge

[humble gulch]

It's not really the same

[modest mist]

Obviously not. My unseeded runs will be different than those I've seen on the internet.

[humble gulch]

Why not copy obelisk

[modest mist]

But just the basic principle of how to play this game should be easy to grasp, yet I seem to keep losing Ante 4-5 every time, on the easiest deck, on the easiest stake.

[strange compass]

For fun

Winning with mostly chips

[humble gulch]

The principle of the early game is usually the last thing players learn

[tall sapphire]

(this run was doomed and i obviously didnt choose it but it still a funny screenshot)

[strange compass]

@modest mist watch Balatro Uni's pair video and a few beginner vids he explains it well and fast

[modest mist]

I'll take a look

[vale shale]

Helo gamers. 1 take gold stake run any deck. Which deck are we thinking bout.

[strange compass]

Early game focus on getting interest, a base mult or chip joker and a few planets

[tall sapphire]

idk i havent gotten to golden stake yet

[humble gulch]

Plasma

[knotty zodiac]

plasma

[modest mist]

Just to give you guys an idea of how bad I suck at this game (by the way), I've filled out around a good 50% (I think) of my collection before beating what's essentially the tutorial

[tall sapphire]

im trying purple stake on the red deck its killing me, idk why i didnt choose another one to actually play on

[vale shale]

Any deck works but yeah plasma mentioned

[knotty zodiac]

there's a difference between watching a good player and executing the same moves... otherwise i'd be a chess grandmaster

[humble gulch]

"I can't beat this game after 3 tries, I suck", it would be actually crazy if you beat it by now with no prior experience

[strange compass]

Magic deck

[tall sapphire]

I cant watch any Balatro videos, i watch them for 4 minutes and go "i could be playing Balatro" open it and waste 2 hours of my life

[modest mist]

I have tried well over 3

This is probably my 25th attempt by now?

[strange compass]

Magic deck was wayyyyy more fun than I thought it would be

[modest mist]

I lost count after 10

[humble gulch]

Doesn't matter, the average first win comes around 10 hours of game

[tall sapphire]

twenty five isnt that bad

[strange compass]

True but I think the pair video from Balatro uni was very helpful for me, before that I didn't use pairs at all

[modest mist]

Again, Im js making up a number because idk how many times i tried

it's probably 30 by this point

and it's js sad

[tall sapphire]

yeah i wanna watch that, i usually play flushes but when i started double pair saved my life, pairs will always have my heart

[modest mist]

like, i should've had at least a few decks beaten by now

[shell dagger]

should according to who

[strange compass]

I meant single pair

It's alot stronger than double pair

[shell dagger]

nobody’s keeping track but you, just play and learn at your own pace

[strange compass]

I almost never do double pair now

[tall sapphire]

i need to check that out

[strange compass]

I think double pair, flush and straights look very strong when you're a beginner

[brave pecan]

ante 11

nice

[echo sphinx]

rate this setup

[humble gulch]

You're dying in the boss blind

[strange compass]

100% guarantee loss

[modest mist]

Again, I should've gotten past Red Deck/White Stake by this point

3 hours is more than enough time to get it done and over with

[shell dagger]

again,

[humble gulch]

Nope

[ebon condor]

i have a friend who didnt win after 20+ hours youre fine

[strange compass]

I think you should focus on clearing white stakes for all the decks first

Before attempting higher stakes

[shell dagger]

read it again

[modest mist]

Gee, that'd be great if I could get past the first deck in the game

But nooo

[strange compass]

Oh

[modest mist]

the game keeps screwing me over on ante 5 when I think I have a good run

[humble gulch]

Red deck it's not the easiest deck

[knotty zodiac]

this game is not that easy

[strange compass]

White stakes isnt as stringent, you can use whatever you feel comfortable with.

[humble gulch]

Bruh

[ebon condor]

also id say that watching youtube videos might even give you a false impression on how youre supposed to play so i wouldnt even say that that should hypothetically be an advantage for you

[knotty zodiac]

could easily watch the wrong videos ya

[ebon condor]

depending on what youre watching ofc

[humble gulch]

+20 mult right there

[knotty zodiac]

"baron mime!!"

that's easily 10+ hours wasted

[modest mist]

other than the foil(?) card, not sure what to grab

[knotty zodiac]

what do you take here

[humble gulch]

The pack is a must

Unless there's a good enough joker in the shop

[modest mist]

There's two of them, genius

[shell dagger]

id just take the foil

[humble gulch]

The buffon pack

[echo sphinx]

Gamble.

[ebon condor]

the buffoon is almost guaranteed to have something that sells for at least 2 so its best to check that first i think

[knotty zodiac]

blueprint in the judgment in the arcana

[knotty zodiac]

what do you take here

[tall sapphire]

constellation on early is huge

[echo sphinx]

holy thonk

[modest mist]

So, I can go for a Pro-Diamond run, or I can fill my collection out

[ebon condor]

sighhhh greedy is def correct but i hate it and theres const

but greedy is almost certainly correct

[tall sapphire]

yeah i guess

[echo sphinx]

constellation shop 1 does literally nothing, however

id take it

[modest mist]

I was gonna pick Greedy anyways, even tho I need constellation for my collection

But you guys seem to be split

[knotty zodiac]

greedy leaves the potential of losing to no +mult in ante 2

[tall sapphire]

since its shop 1 overtime it could get better but greedy is more stable

[humble gulch]

I guess I can afford black board

[ebon condor]

generally you want to pick the play that gives you the lowest chance of losing

[humble gulch]

Now I can

[modest mist]

Which, you guys can't seem to make your mind on what I should go for, so I'm just as confused

[echo sphinx]

pick greedy cuz its just better here

[modest mist]

One side is saying constellation, other is greedy

[humble gulch]

Greedy

[tall sapphire]

for me i play whatever cuz i know the game will always give me the worst outcome

[knotty zodiac]

it's greedy lol

[modest mist]

Alright then, greed it is

[shell dagger]

btw just because you pick greedy now, doesn’t mean it’s best to focus the whole run on diamonds

greedy is just something to get you out of the early antes

[ebon condor]

dont blame the game for you not expecting it to have rng

[modest mist]

Do I want to buy Arcana with the remaining $4 and put me at flat $0, or should I save my money?

[knotty zodiac]

but it's less important for your first win that you pick correctly here and more important that you understand why

[ebon condor]

save fo sho

[shell dagger]

save

[humble gulch]

Gg

[modest mist]

I figured, just wanted to double check

[tall sapphire]

i do expect it to have rng, its one of the best things in it isnt it

the rush of the game

[echo sphinx]

i hate the rng that is called Bloodstone

[ebon condor]

you want to get up to interest cap as fast as possible, so not spending money when its not necessary, especially early on, is essential

money is very very important

[modest mist]

I wanna say I grab dusk here.

[knotty zodiac]

why?

[modest mist]

It feels right, for some reason

Idk

[ebon condor]

id say skip, dusk makes you burn a lott of hand money for lot much benefit atm

[brave pecan]

to the moon or hologram (plasma deck)

[modest mist]

So just go to next round, then?

[knotty zodiac]

do u need money or do u need score

[humble gulch]

Context hat

[shell dagger]

id buy the grabber

[knotty zodiac]

i take grabber here

[ebon condor]

and you already have +mult from greedy so you dont need smiley

[modest mist]

Oh yeah

Good point

The Hook's down

[tawdry epoch]

Is it too late to pivot?

[modest mist]

Idk what benefits me here 🤷

other than the voucher I didn't discover, I'm not sure. Idek if tarot cards will help me at this point

[knotty zodiac]

i would try to avoid skips, the value of seeing a shop is pretty high

generally i dont take arcana packs until i reach $20

[shell dagger]

i prefer mystic summit over greedy but that loses a dollar of interest

[knotty zodiac]

mystic seems correct, 15 mult that is not draw dependent

[tawdry epoch]

mystic summit is usually a good pick early (right to pluto)

[modest mist]

I don't mind sacrificing the dollar of interest

[knotty zodiac]

dollar is pretty big but this is a sizable power bump, i think it's worth

[vale shale]

I'm zad

[modest mist]

This shop is bad 😭

I don't even wanna post the image

[echo sphinx]

this deck sucks ass

[noble mango]

there's no excuse

this one got it worse

[tall sapphire]

Dude

[modest mist]

I guess

[noble mango]

not mine tho

[modest mist]

Like, idek what to say to this

[noble mango]

ok that;s actually not the assest

[modest mist]

Misprint is too dicey for me, and Mr. Bones hasn't proved to be viable in any of my runs

[noble mango]

do it

misprint gaming

[humble gulch]

No

[noble mango]

or just skip

[tawdry epoch]

Just a little unfortunate

[humble gulch]

Save money, you're fine for the next rounds

[noble mango]

keep the interest

[modest mist]

yeah, i was gonna skip this shop

[knotty zodiac]

if you didnt have mult, i would take misprint. now it's not needed

mr bones can be good. did you check the boss blind yet?

[tawdry epoch]

Id just skip the shop

[noble mango]

that diamond jokr is carrying ya

[modest mist]

I skimmed over it

[knotty zodiac]

(the implied question is... what is it?)

[modest mist]

I'll check after this shop

World is one of the two Tarot cards I'm missing in my collection

[knotty zodiac]

... it's relevant to whether you take bones

[modest mist]

I didn't take him

I skipped over him last round

[modest mist]

Referring to this shop ^

Well sh*t.

It's The Window

[echo sphinx]

misprint take

oh wait it got skipped

welp find something else

[modest mist]

I'm just screwed here

[knotty zodiac]

they have mystic. theyre ok here

[echo sphinx]

ic

images still aint loading :(

im sob

[knotty zodiac]

you are in a tight spot here but you will survive with correct play

[echo sphinx]

oh my gosh im in heavens

but i can send images for some reason

discord hello

[modest mist]

Nvm, I managed to squeeze by

World helped me get a bunch of chips

I'm wondering if I should just take the base joker for the sole reason he gives +4 mult

[knotty zodiac]

i would

[modest mist]

I did

[summer dune]

they did

[knotty zodiac]

i would also open the arcana pack

[modest mist]

That, I didn't do

There's another one though in the shop I'm in rn

As well as a jumbo spectral pack

there's also riff-raff and campfire

[knotty zodiac]

generally arcana packs are profitable after you reach ~$20

[knotty zodiac]

what do you think about riff raff and campfire

[modest mist]

Riff-Raff, I'd say would be useful

It could give me an especially good Joker

Also, do I js go Strength and rank up the queens into kings?

[echo sphinx]

snap take

[knotty zodiac]

yep. when you have open slots, riff raff is snap take

[modest mist]

Snap take?

[naive frigate]

Can someone pls tell me what is the xmult of the idol because im in the middle of a dbd game i can't check and i urgently ned this information

[knotty zodiac]

instant take

[modest mist]

Ah

[echo sphinx]

2x

[modest mist]

Also, about this play?

[echo sphinx]

u could

[knotty zodiac]

fine play bc the other options are pretty mid too. sets up 3oak/2 pair.

[modest mist]

neat

[knotty zodiac]

what do you think about campfire?

[modest mist]

I would only take it for collection purposes

Its effect doesn't seem that great

[knotty zodiac]

campfire is one of the best jokers in the game

[echo sphinx]

"cmapfire is not good" every new player, always and forever

[modest mist]

Really?

Well, I'm not saying it's not good, I'm just saying at face value, it doesn't look like the best pick

[knotty zodiac]

it turns money into xmult

and xmult is what you need for the later antes

[modest mist]

Ah

[cinder thicket]

💔

[modest mist]

Do I buy the Jumbo Celestial Pack as well?

Or save my money?

[knotty zodiac]

i would if you stay above $25. also get in the habit of checking the next boss blind right after you beat one

sometimes it tells you whether you need to change your default plan

[modest mist]

Ooh

I fight the Water

Which is good because Summit procs instantly

[humble gulch]

Deserved at this point

[knotty zodiac]

me too me too

[modest mist]

I'm at $19

[cinder thicket]

Yea Icl idk what I was thinking ong😭

[knotty zodiac]

"it resets? what a waste of money"

[humble gulch]

Who cares if it resets, it one shots anyways

[modest mist]

This is what I have to work with right now

Do I sell anything by this point, or just proceed to the next round?

[knotty zodiac]

i would sell jimbo and greedy here

[echo sphinx]

sell jimbo greedy

lets go gambling

[modest mist]

Jimbo is the base joker, yes?

[echo sphinx]

yes

[modest mist]

Alright

[echo sphinx]

if u want u can gamble the pack

[knotty zodiac]

ya took me a while

[gray brook]

I FINALLY BEAT GREEN STAKE

[modest mist]

I'm at $22

Idk if it's worth, because that's a dollar of interest lost

[echo sphinx]

money is meant to be spent

[knotty zodiac]

sometimes if your scoring is not enough, you need it

but i think you are ok here

[echo sphinx]

ye itll implicitly cost $2 interest

[modest mist]

Ooh...

[echo sphinx]

so it's a question of "do u want to gamble this for $8"

[modest mist]

I heard that most of these specific spectrals are good

[echo sphinx]

incantation ig

[modest mist]

Really? Not Cryptid or anything like that?

[echo sphinx]

others kinda need something good to copy or trigger

[knotty zodiac]

what is your goal if you take cryptid

[modest mist]

Right

Greedy doesn't proc anymore

Almost forgot about that

[subtle drum]

@steep thorn

wake up

[tall sapphire]

dont you love losing a run with blueprint early on because you didnt find anything good

it makes me feel so stupid

[modest mist]

I guess incantation it is

[knotty zodiac]

early blueprint is bait

[tall sapphire]

bait for stupid people like me because i just cant ignore it...

[knotty zodiac]

but do you know why

[modest mist]

Because it gives 4 enhanced cards for the price of one random one

Also, Riff Raff gave me Gros Michel and Odd Todd

[knotty zodiac]

so generally this can be bad, you want less cards in your deck rather than more, for consistency

[modest mist]

Ik Gros is useful

[knotty zodiac]

but your only money source is riffraff and interest and extra hands right now

i am hoping for a gold or lucky card here

[knotty zodiac]

todd is a chip source

[echo sphinx]

that idk

deck thinning is over rated imo

[knotty zodiac]

as soon as you get a chip source, you should consider, "can i play pairs and win?"

[echo sphinx]

massive

[modest mist]

Btw if you're curious on what I got out of Incantation, I got an 8 of Hearts Glass, 9 of Clubs Wild, 8 of diamonds bonus, and 7 of diamonds mult

[echo sphinx]

erip

[knotty zodiac]

this is not what i would be hoping for but maybe the glass will come in handy

[knotty zodiac]

i think generally if i have joker econ, i do not take incantation unless hologram or driver's license

[modest mist]

🤔

i guess im doing celestial

[strange compass]

Man is selling Chicot actually the play here

[echo sphinx]

id greedmax

[knotty zodiac]

what do you think about the standard pack

[echo sphinx]

odd todd and mystic sell om

(dont)

[knotty zodiac]

ngl very tempting lol

[echo sphinx]

space joker i luv u sm

[modest mist]

Hmmmmm

Gold Seal is VERY tempting

[strange compass]

I can't beat the ante 3 needle without summit right

[echo sphinx]

id take purple

is not even a question with campfire in the equation

[modest mist]

Alr

[echo sphinx]

cuz whatever it spits out is either campfire fodder or something of use

[modest mist]

Do I take anything else from this shop rn?

[echo sphinx]

neh

[narrow scroll]

the play is to sell hex here right

[knotty zodiac]

i would consider if you have enough scoring to see if you want the planet

[echo sphinx]

feels so late to take

[knotty zodiac]

but i do think you have enough scoring

[echo sphinx]

pair is already giving 200 chips

[knotty zodiac]

next, would consider whether selling mystic is correct

[modest mist]

The Water is gonna proc Mystic and make it easy

So I'll keep it for now

[knotty zodiac]

hm thats a fair line

im thinking, "if the gros pops, am i dead for the next round"

[modest mist]

Gros is safe for now

[knotty zodiac]

a common failure condition for me is gros pops, i find no mult in the next shop, and i die

[modest mist]

Here's what I've got rn

[echo sphinx]

emperor and shake it open

[modest mist]

bet

[echo sphinx]

Gamble.

[modest mist]

HMMM

[echo sphinx]

GAMBLING???

[knotty zodiac]

if you are holding mystic long term, then i would sell riffraff here

[modest mist]

If I use Judgement here, what joker do I scrap is the question

[echo sphinx]

riffraff or mystic

[modest mist]

Idk if Mystic is worth it

The Head is the next boss blind

[knotty zodiac]

ya i think i would fool, then sell mystic, then judgment

[hasty tendon]

should have sold the hex to get the blueprint

[modest mist]

Judgement gave me Chaos the Clown

I haven't rerolled in any of my runs yet

Mainly because I wanna try and get the achievement

[subtle drum]

it wouldn’t have been enough anyway

[knotty zodiac]

do what you like, personally i would prioritize first win

[hasty tendon]

dont u start with 4 , and if u sell the hex u get 2 = 6 + 3$ from 3 hands and 1 dollar interest

thats 10 no?

[steep thorn]

oiia

[knotty zodiac]

no interest round 1

[hasty tendon]

ah

[knotty zodiac]

interest calculated before extra hand value

[modest mist]

Should I just sell Chaos and then go for emperor, try my luck again?

[echo sphinx]

ig u right if u sell the hex before the round ends

[hasty tendon]

nono i mean as the round starts i sell

[shell dagger]

yeah u could’ve got it if you sold hex before round 1 but that’s a silly thing to do without knowledge of the seed

[echo sphinx]

but like what u gonna do with speculative blueprint lol

[shell dagger]

at that point play yellow deck

[hasty tendon]

true

[echo sphinx]

ouija

[subtle drum]

no

[modest mist]

Okay, so I went ahead and sold Chaos and ran emp again. I got magician and judgement. I used judgement, and I got Nova

[knotty zodiac]

i would consider buy sell mad for a moment, decide against, then reroll

[modest mist]

Oh, well NOW you tell me

-# right after I alr done it

[knotty zodiac]

ya im on the go rn

[modest mist]

fair

[knotty zodiac]

nova is a pretty sweet pickup

it strongly suggests playing as many pairs as you can every round

[modest mist]

I got another Purple Seal from the booster pack

Meaning more campfire fuel

[viscid vault]

I hate HATE when I have good jokers but don't get good cards to play

Aaaaaa

And then sell the run

:(

[echo sphinx]

what have i gotten myself into

[strange compass]

This x mult slop is crazy

[modest mist]

I got an interesting shop here

[strange compass]

My 2nd ankh rn

[modest mist]

also gros js does not die rn

[knotty zodiac]

sometimes it sticks around until the end

[knotty zodiac]

mega

[strange compass]

No it's hitting rocket 😭

Triple rocket money

[knotty zodiac]

double 4f build inc

the meta "8 finger"

[modest mist]

A lot of good picks

[knotty zodiac]

what do you like here

[modest mist]

I'm thinking I use Magician to buff my kings, play the High priestess and then go The World on the king and Ace

Mainly to promote Pairs/3oK or 4oK

[knotty zodiac]

you get 3 choices for world

[modest mist]

Then on the 9 as well

Wheel of Fortune is too risky

[knotty zodiac]

priestess/world is a good choice

i would take wheel if you had no chip source but you have todd

if not priestess i would have held magician to use during the round but using now is good ya

[modest mist]

We got Mars and Uranus. I'm thinking Campfire fodder

[knotty zodiac]

supernova slightly likes uranus and does not like mars

[modest mist]

So then sell one, use the other?

[knotty zodiac]

i dont sell to campfire unless i need the score right away

planets in your consumable slots prevent them from spawning in the shop

[modest mist]

Mercury is also in the shop

Does Nova like Mercury?

[knotty zodiac]

mercury is nova's favorite

[modest mist]

Got it

[knotty zodiac]

if 5 pairs win. i just hold the other planets

[modest mist]

I suppose I can skip shop now, yes?

[knotty zodiac]

you want wasteful voucher by the shop before the boss blind

so ya i next

was hoping for money in the mega but sometimes it doesnt happen

[modest mist]

Good news, Wasteful is here!

[knotty zodiac]

wasteful sticks around for the whole ante

[modest mist]

Ah

You said buy wasteful this shop?

[knotty zodiac]

next is boss?

[modest mist]

mhm

The Head to be specific

[waxen stream]

Black deck gold stake 2nd try

[knotty zodiac]

so wasteful helps you get more purple seal value

but the egg is also tempting for econ

players will disagree on what line but i think i would sell riff raff for egg, take wasteful, and next

all assuming your scoring is still ok

[modest mist]

Up to Ante 5

[knotty zodiac]

btw you want to try to score 5 pairs if safe

moving the campfire to the right will increase your scoring bc it will multiply the mult from gros/nova

and then moving it left will decrease the scoring which is helpful if you are winning too quickly

[modest mist]

How's this layout?

[knotty zodiac]

this maximizes scoring

[modest mist]

Egg to build up econ value, todd for chip farm, and then multi for everything else

[knotty zodiac]

the golden joker better than the egg, but lets see whats in the arcana first

[modest mist]

Also idk if it's js me, but that voucher looks like itll cause me issues

[knotty zodiac]

also whats the boss?

[modest mist]

The one i despise most

The Fish

[knotty zodiac]

you have 5 discards, fish doesnt do anything to you

[modest mist]

I like pointmaxing

And my face cards help me do that

[knotty zodiac]

your odd cards score more than your face cards rn bc of todd

[echo sphinx]

erosion is gonna be fighting for its life

[knotty zodiac]

drowned 5ever

[knotty zodiac]

hanged is usually very good but you have so many hands and discards that it's not really needed

so i sell both planets and priestess here

[echo sphinx]

hange tens

[strange compass]

Blackboard triggered even tho the hook removed the spades and clubs from my hand and left me with 0 cards

[modest mist]

You aint gonna believe ts

[knotty zodiac]

every card in your hand is a spade or club, so yep

[modest mist]

Same exact cards

[knotty zodiac]

lol

[modest mist]

js switched spots

[knotty zodiac]

ig maybe consider using the uranus next time, mb

but ya this happens

its fine. more fodder and blocking

[modest mist]

I sell egg here, then?

[echo sphinx]

what.

[livid scroll]

planetmaxxing or pairslop generator

[knotty zodiac]

i would sell egg for golden ya

[echo sphinx]

slop

[livid scroll]

of course

[knotty zodiac]

barely increases your scoring lol

[modest mist]

Agh dangit

[echo sphinx]

ikr

[modest mist]

Gros Michel finally popped

[knotty zodiac]

is a good thing, now cav is possible

just make sure you are surviving with enough score

[modest mist]

Bus Stop?

[knotty zodiac]

what's nova pair at rn?

[modest mist]

10

[echo sphinx]

Gamble.

[knotty zodiac]

our priority is making sure you are scoring enough, bus helps later but not now

[modest mist]

As per Hosh's request

[echo sphinx]

rip

i emant the spectral but is ok

[knotty zodiac]

skip

[modest mist]

You never specified

[knotty zodiac]

its fine, searching for blue seal is a good play

[modest mist]

So 🤷

[echo sphinx]

id also gamble the standard regardless

and this is why i never win runs

[knotty zodiac]

loool

[echo sphinx]

r i p

[modest mist]

gamble hosh said

it'd be a good idea hosh said

[knotty zodiac]

deja vu the 7s

[echo sphinx]

HAHAHAHAHA

[knotty zodiac]

r u alive next round tho?

[echo sphinx]

sorry gng

[modest mist]

Does it matter which one?

[echo sphinx]

not rly idk

[knotty zodiac]

7s meaning 7 of spades

[echo sphinx]

black ig

[knotty zodiac]

your black cards tend to be better than your red cards

[echo sphinx]

look at this amazing nonsynergy

[modest mist]

idk what my best course of action is here

full house or 3 of a kind?

3 of a kind is level 2 thanks to a prior planet usage

but full house procs the 2x 9c with Odd Todd

And the steel card also procs here too

[knotty zodiac]

bro 💀

[modest mist]

the only disadvantage is Nova doesn't work here

[knotty zodiac]

do you win with pair?

[lunar zealot]

sell the mars and uranus first and foremost

[modest mist]

That puts me at 2.25x mult

[modest mist]

Idk if I do

[lunar zealot]

i'd open up balacalc

[knotty zodiac]

u can do the math

sometimes this is necessary, this is one of those times

[lunar zealot]

if it's any consolation the way this is going you might not survive next ante anyway

[modest mist]

Is it a website?

[lunar zealot]

yess

[knotty zodiac]

its ws, the setup is winning when played correctly..

[lunar zealot]

real and true

[modest mist]

you have a link?

google isnt giving me the website

[lunar zealot]

https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/

[modest mist]

nvm ts too complicated

im just gonna bite the bullet here and go for the pair because idk what else to do

welp, ive wasted everyone else's time and my own

im such an idiot.

idek why i thought this run would be any different

[knotty zodiac]

so. when gros pops, it can be a very scary moment

[modest mist]

I got that alr

[knotty zodiac]

i would have rolled to see if there was more scoring

[modest mist]

No need to tell me

It doesn't matter. I'm never gonna beat this game.

And it's clear I'm just a waste of everyone's time.

Spent, what, 2 hours just to fail in the same spot I did anyway as opposed to me doing it by myself?

I'm a joke.

Doesn't matter because I'll still fail anyway

So there's no point in trying

[knotty zodiac]

the other low hanging fruit is you got nova at round 9. at round 14 with 5 hands it could have been +25 for pairs

[modest mist]

not like it matters.

[vagrant wagon]

Shop 1 nat negative Chad 😅 and I can’t take it 🥺

[knotty zodiac]

literally a 2.5x difference in scoring

if you want to win, those are the sorts of edges that help

[modest mist]

I'll figure it out myself

Since clearly, the help I get here doesn't do a thing for me but just waste time

I don't wanna hear it from you, especially since my first impression of you is nothing but a negative asl troll.

[knotty zodiac]

i think if you see losing as a learning opportunity, itll help you get past the mental block

[modest mist]

Your display name, primarily.

Whatever. I'm not gonna sit here and engage in an argument with a 12 year old.

[lunar zealot]

howdy chat what are we talking about

[modest mist]

Js block and move on.

[modest mist]

The fact that the help I got ended up doing nothing for me.

[lunar zealot]

shit happens

i have like a 20% winrate

[knotty zodiac]

if you didnt learn anything from that sesh, then ya it wouldve been a waste of time

[lunar zealot]

mainly because i hold r at slight inconveniences

but we learn and then win after learning

[modest mist]

Yeah, and I could've saved so much more time if I would've just done it myself because guess what, I ended up losing at Ante 5 again.

[knotty zodiac]

so hopefully you did learn a few tech there

[lunar zealot]

ante 5 tends to be a run killer in general yes

it gets worse on higher stakes too

nothing to be ashamed of

[modest mist]

Losing is and always will be a hindrance.

[lunar zealot]

are we denying that?

no

[modest mist]

The only lesson it taught me is that it's a parasite and serves no other purpose other than to give others a reason to taunt me.

[lunar zealot]

losing sucks and you should try not to

but it's not always bad

balatro is a game that's like a good 30% vibes anyway

[knotty zodiac]

mm if you cant tolerate losing, you wont get good at balatro. which is fine, but if you expect to be good and arent and keep trying, then it can be painful

[lunar zealot]

hey man i gave up on being an artist

[modest mist]

Losing is always a bad thing.

[tranquil cedar]

you learn

[modest mist]

Nothing to learn from it other than what I described.

[lunar zealot]

feels like a destructive mindset

[tranquil cedar]

me, as a person who lost like 18 times or more in a row, spent my time watching good people play and talking in this chat, where a lot of great players can be found

[modest mist]

This is coming from the same person who gave up being an artist instead of following their dreams.

[lunar zealot]

yes i'm a hypocrite

[modest mist]

I don't wanna hear anything about a destructive mindset from you when you have zero room to talk.

[knotty zodiac]

kinda disappointed tbh. gl

[lunar zealot]

feels rather disproportionate though from my perspective

this is balatro

[modest mist]

At least you understand that much about yourself.

[lunar zealot]

just gg and go next

soapboxing won't help

[tranquil cedar]

who knows, next run might be it

[lunar zealot]

it's not about how you fall but how you rise again

[tranquil cedar]

💔 this some bullshit

[lunar zealot]

eugh

[modest mist]

Ooh, so philosophical and wise.

[pale wolf]

stupid statement

[lunar zealot]

hai zebra

[tranquil cedar]

mf were not against you 😭 we're trynna HELP

[pale wolf]

im against them

[lunar zealot]

have you played the seed i showed you

[tranquil cedar]

lmfao

[hearty tusk]

What is happenib

[lunar zealot]

it's so funny

[cloud sinew]

meanie

[tranquil cedar]

anything but game discussion

[lunar zealot]

Also just to be clear my dream was never to be an artist in the first place

[hearty tusk]

As usual, duh, I already know that. Am asking whats happenin

[modest mist]

Coming from the Russian LARPer btw. Get a life instead of lurking in the chat and trying to cause an issue for me, thanks.

[pale wolf]

should i, i dont check out seeds very often is it something i could see in the soul

[tranquil cedar]

lowk

[lunar zealot]

i was 10 and gave up because my friends were all artists and i felt inferior

[hearty tusk]

What in the actual fuck does this even mean

[tranquil cedar]

by this logic you're either an English or Japanese "larper"

[devout wasp]

https://klipy.com/gifs/grandpa-simpson-5--k01KR8K0EW0Z6FBJ41YFFYHWD2M

[cloud sinew]

take a break twin

[lunar zealot]

my lifelong dream is and always will be to be a writer

[tranquil cedar]

puhLEASE

[hearty tusk]

Stop arguing. It's a Game. I love you. Take a break.

[lunar zealot]

thank you, discord user Human

[tranquil cedar]

abandoned shops always on sum crack bro

[lunar zealot]

are you a human or a cat

[hearty tusk]

Yes

[tranquil cedar]

everyone say hi to the volume slider

[lunar zealot]

Fuck the volume slider

[tranquil cedar]

nooo you made her sad 😔

[cloud sinew]

highest c9 ive had in non-endless gs tbh

[lunar zealot]

good lord

[pale wolf]

using cyrillic is simply larper activity, its a shame there were so many cultures of larping throughout history 🦓

[tranquil cedar]

fuck damn

that's a lot of bank

[pale wolf]

this means nothing to me because i cant read it 😀

[modest mist]

I don't need to take a break. I need to not be stuck on the tutorial deck so I can play the game and progress further.

[tranquil cedar]

and i understood allat

[lunar zealot]

I can read every language

i am fluent in over 500 million forms of communication

[pale wolf]

actually that is true, I can too with modern technology

im just lazy

[lunar zealot]

No you fool i am a droid

[cloud sinew]

which wont happen while youre blinded by rage 👍

[devout wasp]

this is gonna be frustrating to hear but the number one best tech for getting past a mental block is to take a break

[hearty tusk]

If you find the game difficult, then take a break.

[pale wolf]

sounds modern enough technology to me

[tranquil cedar]

that moment when you realize you can just ignore someone

[knotty zodiac]

baron-actually-good-for-once run

[modest mist]

I'm just frustrated, not necessarily in rage rn

Like, I should have beaten this already.

[pale wolf]

anyways, check out balatro University's 101 videos for extremely basic beginner information to help you win for the first time

[lunar zealot]

I know the word for this

tilt

[knotty zodiac]

yeah another one bites the dust rip

[pale wolf]

he da bes

[lunar zealot]

playing the game more will just tilt you more

[hearty tusk]

Dont worry. It's gonna be alright. It's still just a game.

[lunar zealot]

At least right now

[tranquil cedar]

when i was younger kept losing at Cuphead (I still do), so i stopled playing and suddenly next day I beat it first try

[lunar zealot]

Play some minecraft or something to clear your mind

[devout wasp]

according to what standard? it sounds like one of the biggest things frustrating you is the idea that you Ought To Have <x> Winrate, which is. just gonna crush you

[tranquil cedar]

there are ZERO KINGS 😭😭😭

[knotty zodiac]

idk if its tilt or fundamental attitude towards the world tho

hopefully just tilt

[cloud sinew]

and sleep! sleep is a glorious tool for mental blocks. come back to it when youve slept on it, your brain organizes shit like crazy while youre asleep and makes it a lot easier to figure things out

[lunar zealot]

Bro... you're my king.

[pale wolf]

cuphead came out like last year in my mind

😭

[tranquil cedar]

Bro... 🥹

[tranquil cedar]

when you realize the dlc came out in 2022

[lunar zealot]

Bro... 🥰

[modest mist]

wdym by fundamental attitude??

[pale wolf]

Bro (feminine)

[tranquil cedar]

that's also why it's recommended to study before sleep

[tranquil cedar]

Bro (agenderly)

[lunar zealot]

i'm cool with bro and dude if and only if it's necessary for the bit

[knotty zodiac]

is cuphead harder or hollow knight bosses

[pale wolf]

im being silly

[lunar zealot]

otherwise yeah

[tranquil cedar]

never played hk 😔

[pale wolf]

hollow knight

[cloud sinew]

ive never played ch

[lunar zealot]

I haven't played either which makes me the perfect person to answer this question

[pale wolf]

i havent played cuphead but ive seen it played

[knotty zodiac]

hm so maybe cuphead is doable. ig i wait for summer sale thx

[tranquil cedar]

wow we should like trade

[pale wolf]

if you count everything in hollow knight

[cloud sinew]

a friend once told me that balatro was overrated. I asked if theyd played and they said "nah". some people...

[tranquil cedar]

Cuphead is relatively easy

[knotty zodiac]

"its just rng"

[tranquil cedar]

comapred to like the rest of hard games

at least that's what I think

[devout wasp]

balatro goes crazy when you aint got a bloodstone in your ear telling you <no trigger>

[knotty zodiac]

im a scrub with slow reflexes

but if easier than hk i can prob pull it off

[tranquil cedar]

which doesn't mean it can't be hard

[tranquil cedar]

Cuphead has a really nice difficulty curve

[lunar zealot]

Dog

[tranquil cedar]

dawg

[lunar zealot]

hound

[tranquil cedar]

canine

[lunar zealot]

yes

[cloud sinew]

sniffa

[tranquil cedar]

is that you are you a dog

[cloud sinew]

ruff

[tranquil cedar]

no way

[patent sail]

goddamn i HATE the fish

[lunar zealot]

i wish i was 😔

scoffs and looks away

[cloud sinew]

ruff raff

[lunar zealot]

kicks the floor and crosses arms

[tranquil cedar]

what did they do to you 😔😔🥹 /j

[patent sail]

kills me every single time if a build isnt centered around oneshots

[lunar zealot]

Big ass nose

[tranquil cedar]

pouts type shit

[patent sail]

i cpuld have golden sticker on ZANY right now

[lunar zealot]

i-it's not like i like you or anything!

Baka!

[tranquil cedar]

my dog is a tsundere

[pale wolf]

balatro is just this game but a little more complicated

[cloud sinew]

deep sea creature

[knotty zodiac]

dis on mobile now?!

[tranquil cedar]

balatro is kinda like checkers

[pale wolf]

no lol

well maybe but i cropped it

[lunar zealot]

Chat what if balatro was a moba

[pale wolf]

it should be on mobile

[patent sail]

balatro is kinda like minesweeper

you restart when you lost

[tranquil cedar]

balatro mmorpg

[knotty zodiac]

darn. selling gpu worst decision of my life

[pale wolf]

would it be the first moba on switch

[devout wasp]

im uninstalling tomorrow

[gaunt burrow]

checkered deck

[tranquil cedar]

balatro is kinda like pong...
it... it's got pixels...

[lunar zealot]

no

[patent sail]

ok

[lunar zealot]

pokemon unite

[pale wolf]

right ofc

[lunar zealot]

take green

[tranquil cedar]

nice cream

[patent sail]

too late

[tranquil cedar]

it's got... characters... and points...

[pale wolf]

dang wasnt this supposed to have a competitive scene

[knotty zodiac]

3080 when prices went wild

[lunar zealot]

pokemon unite is developed by a subsidiary of tencent

that should speak for itself

[tranquil cedar]

wasnt it ilca? 💔

[lunar zealot]

ilca is for bdsp

[tranquil cedar]

ohhh

and champions

[lunar zealot]

unite is developed by timi

[pale wolf]

nintendo will make a million highly polished "competitive" games that flop 6 months after release before they even consider supporting competitive smash

[tranquil cedar]

(un)surprisingly champions had bugs day 1

[hearty tusk]

Anywho

[knotty zodiac]

in which u sell lootboxes to kids and its still rated G for everyone

but a little poker chip and now it's "gambling"

[lunar zealot]

Competitive smash has like 7 quadrillion predators

[pale wolf]

literally any game community if it gets big enough

[hearty tusk]

I still cant win black deck gs😂😂😂😂😂🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 so funny😂😂😂😂😂😂i am dead inside

[lunar zealot]

COUGH COUGH BTD6

[tranquil cedar]

ironic how the switch two equivalent of Arms is essentially No-Legs

[lunar zealot]

COUGH COUGH

COUGH

[pale wolf]

i didnt even hear about it

thats how flop it was

anyways balatro

[tranquil cedar]

lmfao i legitimately heard about it once

[tranquil cedar]

regg

[pale wolf]

reggntal

the g is silent

[tranquil cedar]

reggrishable

[knotty zodiac]

reggcellent pick

[cloud sinew]

like in reign

[tranquil cedar]

i got htr (not hrt), sold it, and got my money back

[pale wolf]

I haven't played that

[tranquil cedar]

deadass nothing happened

air pack