#🕹・game-discussion
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dgrat
Love histories between two girls
how much is grimbo tho
wlw 🤤
grimbo is +21
bluestorm by eaze
He can drink now
pair build?
yea
how much level
pair is level 9
+1 discard a round
grimbo is carrying
I thought it was Geometry Dash or something
hmm
i guess grat can die??
actually nah
i need money to fuel holo
banner dies
hæh
can be grat or banner
banner could die because of bp copying holo
how now do i get yuri texture pack...
theres a mega pack
bp can't copy editions
Can gamble now 🔥
Hologram...
holo knight
Who's stopping me from gambling
so in addition to 1 discard he also has a 1 in 2 chance to make scored hearts give 1.5x
no bum its hologram
i cryptid a blue seal here right
the previous ante's voucher was the discard voucher 😭
ueah
discord
incant’s additional 0.5x is probably less valuable
medium worth considering if you alr have 3+ blue seal
true
deck is bloated so i doubt he can find that purple
yeah, but i could ptentially move out of grimbo and switch to planet levels for mult
sell yorick and take your time machine back to buy wasteful
Yeah 63 cards 1 purple is tough
chance at purple seal provides more than slightly improved blue seal reliability
You can't have enough blue
nah keep grimbo he's carrying
Never
will do i'll be back
holo scaling and two more blue seals likely outweighs
holo scale 🤷
depends on exact deck comp but my guess is it’s more ev to crypt
forgot about holo. good call
Yeah holo scale and more blue is better than one purple there (sadly, purple is so fun)
Bloody hell mate
looks like a plushie
terminally ill lesbian
hmmm... do i accept the trash?
Do you ever hit shuffle on liked songs and realize that 14 year old you was just liking anything 😭
Bloody fucking hell mate
yeah sure your deck is fucked anyways
banners gone and you have 2 copiers why would you do anything else
free win
0.75x a round for free
grat yes
no need for money now you just coast to win
grimbo is like 2x
alr cool
its gg
This game sucks more than dbd
4 years old me liked children's songs, can you believe that guy?
what did you skip for
smol child me made entire playlists of meme songs and thought that was the peak of music
A free rare joker
It was eternal and rental and ass
yeah that one's on you
rare skips can’t have stickers iirc
nor can uncommon skips
declare like bankruptcy and start over xD
Whaa
why are we redacting blinds
new main playlist bimonthly
I have far too many playlists I need to figure them out at some point but yeah bankrupcy sounds like an easier out 😭
kaia's list 20260101-20260228
kaia's list 20260301-20260430
...
FUCK THIS SHIT
The oldest song I gave like in my account was abnormality dancin' girl
🐑
3-800 songs I liked once
noob
Saibot
a playlist that I USED TO KNOW~~
saihate
1 main playlist 2 main playlist red main playlist blue main playlist
they can
that is half of the reason why they're so awful
nebula playlist
✅ my bad
the other half is... because they're random lol
Unironically the only thing that has stopped me from swapping to Appel music is that I can’t put my own cover on the playlists 😭
Interesting
Yeah rare skips .. are dubious
The hanging chad is a fading memory don't mind it
I only have one playlist
skip round for showman lets go
That’s ?? Crazy I have like 700 😭 I have a problem
I got my papa into vocaloid music like a month ago and I thought he would like it because he's a music nerd and it turns out he's obsessed with it now
doomed yuri
Why would you even make 700...
who is his favorite
uhm
-# please be teto please be teto
I still don't understand why do people call this mod yuri
My dad only listens to slayyyter and Sophie now 😭
Osage >>>>>
I’ve had this account for like over a decade 😭
What elephant is there to address to vro
abandoned playlist is just every old one that’s not in the current playlists folder
miku is the only one he really knows about lol
look it up
Look WHAT up brodie wodie
its yuri
talk about delayed gratification
ggs
It's not about time, it's just why
💔
please tell me what mod this is
Cool
$3 for a random sticker or a speculative xmult
bruh ive gotten an insane club, diamond, and other club run, but still havent got illusioner thingy 😭
holobait
idk I just snagged this image from somewhere else
:(
c++ before c
“both” in the buffoon back
look its yuri
expensive yuri
doomed yuri
sometimes the brother duo band from the mid 70s doesn’t fit the vibe of the mid 2010s club music
you can take and drop cert for a free seal I guess
it could be a blue seal
gold seals can make money back and blue/purple is always good
What is the amount of yuri mods does this game have vro
Why don't just listen to it all at once
3 in 4 chance to be good
not enough is the answer to that
amazing
red seal potentially good 😂
I <3 yuri
I have cute romantic songs and rock punk in the same playlist
eaze is locked in on making yuri mods tho
Well, more hopeless romantic than romantic
- true reaction * (I don’t have nitro)
I should get a shirt that says I <3 yuri on it
shibal
fuck
Real
bro this is the second red seal
potential seal
they call it 007
0 value alone
0 justification
7 million endless runs
Hey what about those extra 7 chips !!!!
give me liberty give me fire give me devil and death in the next shop or I retire
armmm actusjcjeally its more chip
I have a feeling that if you multiply the number of reasons to have a red seals on gold stake by a million you get 0
i have a button maker. i need to make gay ass buttons
gay ass
only value red seal have is ghost deck 😂
Deja vu is fuel for the campfire
0 relevance 0 purpose +7 chips to hearts flushes
WHERE IS MY SEALLLLLL
One extra miss for bloodstone 🔥🔥🔥
erm actually its 28 chips ahaha
im better than you im the best balatro player
7 more disappointments before you lose to ante 5 wall
28 of hearts?
Hiker value 🔥
nooo bevausev flush is x4
0 skill
0 playing slow
7 is the next number of streak I'll have
+5 chips 7 more times
WORST JOKER SUPERPOSITION
joker so bad even 4oak gets drawn first
7 streak of white stake
chips not score
I wish, GSG is painful because I have to play nebula
geto ut you are not allowed to correct me
7th ante record on stakes above green
cancer deck
@humble gulch im getting you for some reason
Gsg in order is horrible
What
dunno ask novice what for
folk
Fork*
x19 holo and yuri couldn't get me past ante 12
whos novice
baba
baba is you
"You get .Out (3)!"
That means spit in spanish
it means father in chinese
spangs
im no chinese either
why does the bluestorm pack not make them kiss like the meme what’s the point then?
gonna need a mod for that one :>
bluestorm mod 2.0 and it’s straight softcore of anime girl jokers
Someone get on that
and died
25 percent chance I remember to do it and work up the motivation during summer
+2 mult or $2.5
wwmpgd
what would mr parking greed do
🔥
WHAT
I forgot the $0.5 that comes with the +2 :3
slop dreams of this shit
what would u do
lobotomy plays this
pivot cuz its +2 multe or skip
I would just keep trousers
#run-discussion
/s
slop
NOT THE SHADOW REALM
speculative oa6 value
Speculative loss value 🔥
mime baron run to get the last voucher
for whatever reason i havent get c
What a horrible wordle
your fault for guessing “ranga” whatever tf that is
What else I'm supossed to try
Ranga is such an insane second word 😭
what the fuck is ranga
I mean, it helped
cramp idk
there’s definitely better than that it’s just what comes to mind
crane wouldn’t be bad either
It's always trib
yorick 🐐
It’s going to be trib
CHICOTTT
texts-coral
GOAT
argil knows something we don’t
I did it anyways, stop bullying me ❤️🩹
no :3
Honestly, I don't even know why I know what ranga means
well actually yes I will stop bullying you since I have a game to play :>
type of run to appear on white stakes
:4
It’s Australian so who knows 😭
I only know it for like, gets easily mad
is it slang for kangaroo or something
It's a personality trait
endlessbro dream
I looked it up apparently it’s like for red headed people in Australian slang ? They got a lot of slang over there
btw what is the word for the male karen personality
Yeah, like Boeing 474
bong 797
Good morning
Helo gamers. 1 take gold stake run any deck. Which deck are we thinking bout.
Neb neb
Do I die or do I get a free win
die ofc
... yeah
That would be trash
What is baron mime doing for me without levels
Nor deck fixing
if there was a perkeo in the arcana + a majikal criptid
:5
Is Wrath even worth it?
:6
:7
:8
Nah
:9
:0
worst joker mailed in
Idk if I'm lucky or if I'm getting better
diabolical
so close to greatness
Ion kno
Jc idol build
Wait is this it??
Kind of in a bit of a pickle here am i
mm missed both draws gg
meh just manifest a drunkard
and maybe a grabber + nacho tong
Sure just give me a sec
ok
C++ mobile update: been stuck on 2 jokers left now all day. Have only seen Acrobat once and it was a rental that ended up screwing me. Have not seen bean (even too early) at all.
yep the good ol' late c++ deadweight screwover
surprised acrobat is pretty late
Wowzers
perishable L
#bait
raije
brainstorm L
bate
rebate
mail out
male .out
Hi
cant believe youre named after the best joker in the game. im lowk jelis
💀
is that a pivot
whats
lol
yeah prob take both drop cart or runner, depends on runner chips
i only really take it if i have baseball card
on anaglyph deck
bro i forgot to copy the damn photo
its ok so r u
and this is why we dont get gredy
Real
out is a joker?
Was it intentional ?
was what intentional
absolutely jacked
also trance is right there ov
og
we just ignoring that
I’m not very good yet, but I just had a crazy run. What is the best order to put my jokers in here?
where
…
Plz idk what to do is the right order or would it be better to point my blueprint and brainstorm at King
Nooo
Like 4 rounds in a row of holding a death card only to never draw my blue seal 🙁
It’s all red stamp steel Kings
2 on king and 1 on mime I think
I'm making a custom poker hand which is triggered by cards in your hand adding to 21. Should it be specifically all cards in hand adding to 21, or should any combination work?
I’ll give it a try thanks
Any combination
You don't need 5 cards to hit 21
so then what should I do if there are multiple ways to make 21 in the hand?
just score the first one?
That’s a fun idea. I think any set of cards hitting 21 makes sense, like blackjack
Uhm
Thank you so much that saved me
No problem :]
sucks to suck i guess
Maybe the most valuable one? Or if they manage to get two sets of 21 (is that possible??) it counts as a new hand.
If you're playing gold then all baron
If you're playing steel, blueprint copying mime
A J K 8 3 contains two 21s in total
A+J and K+8+3
or A+K and J+8+3
guys what u think about my poker hands?
bro who tf was playing balatro in the 1600s
yes i know thats the joke dumbass
The one time I could have taken it I wasn't 100% sure I'd win with it. Since then I had a decent run with it but died close to the end. Bean on the other hand I don't remember seeing in ages
sorry i couldnt tell
to be honest i am bad at picking up on tone online
even though it seems like it should be obvious for some reason thats not what comes to mind at first
Genuinely PRAYING for the hanged man
sir balatro of duke balatro of earblatro
yay new personal wee joker pb
yo why they so bad
I can slide the mod if you won't tell anyone
Hand crafted
yes pls
no way it‘s papyrus
Can we address the elephant
i want me some yuri mod
This is more of r63 but ok
what elephant
(i suck at this game don‘t judge me)
The resolution of the picture vro
Perkeo looks like a femboy...
because thats what it is
well idk about the lgbt part
i think theyre supposed to be girls
and its a reference to the bluestorm or is inspired by it
kinda jsut assuming tho
spacing it so good
?
What
tf u talking about
proof of time travelers
balatro player look at the screenshot challenge
How many cryptids ?
shiny
none, dna (plus blueprint and brainstorm) and deaths
i didn‘t get a single one this entire run
my weakness
Really? Are you serious...?
What about it
livin the riff raff life
good god, it's a black deck run
the 1 in 10 run where black deck is the best deck
fr
riff raff didnt even pull out photo??? based
he pulled out a photochad for me once 😭😭😭 like riff raff what the fuck is that supposed to mean
aww, I wish i could take both the vagabussy and the brainstorm
🧠 🌪️
stickerless one is wild too
mine are always perishable 😭
Would you guys like it if waluigi was added to balatro
if cryptid one no
Insert throwback glaze here
Insert death threats here
WHAT???
You don't glaze throwbasck without recieving death threats brodie
That's not possible
to be honest it has a funny idea because waluigi IS greedy and loves money and econ legendary CAN be fun probably maybe idk but like
ehhhhh
Mods, remove this joker 🃏
from my court
Waluigi gives 2.5x per joker
Wario gives econ
$3 per joker
jimbo, we gonna have to kill this guy
Crazy work bro
wow im so bad
Insert plasma glaze here
wario one is fun waluigi no
do I go for a spongebob run?
yeah okay my mario universe knowledge is near 0
you asking? any day
Im going to horse plinko you
well im not a horse
hell yea
so goodluck with that
im not a human ime car :3
just 3 minutes away
vroom
burnt joker
yeah the cat just ran over him
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
bro thinks he on the team 🥀
"is that a baron and mime in the same shop? in MY hack wee run?"
bornana
its so perplexing how burnt part of the burnt joker might have been an incident and he accidentally got burnt, but then he also already has a fire and flames themed design, meaning he WAS supposed to be burnt or was always made this way? truly an unsolvable conundrum
Free win
which i dont think i can afford to take it
an unburnt burnt joker will proc on every discard
0 econ generation, that's gonna kill me :/
frozen joker will eat your levels instead
i think youre fine tbh
You can sell brainstorm if you're not sure (yes, I'm serious)
how are riff-raff and misprint NOT rng?
gg brain
it doesn't have #/#
Because they always activate
rng is when theres a listed chance
1 in something to proc
idol would be rng, ancient joker would be rng, rebate would be rng, so many jokers would be rng if it was more vague
yorick is rng
yea, i think is kinda fine
wow cavendish costs less than gros michel
i'm so fire
Balatrodle in 4
i got it in 2 💔🐎
horse
damn
🐎
my opener is always jimbo and that gave me enough info to guess
yknow if i started with erosion like i usually do i probably would've gotten it too 💔
would've shown me ||that the ability type is almost guaranteed xmult||
then the rest are self explanatory
im at the point where a needle can kill me
what gave it away for me is ||ability being +mult adjacent (aka xmult)|| and ||RNG being Yes||
and ofc the rarity
yeah when i saw both of those it instantly clicked
||i actually went with gros michel as my second guess lol||
Campfire 😭
🥀
campfire is so good
Uhhuh.
its $2 to gain X0.25
and absolutely free on gold stake because rentals
very easy to regrow
0$ with rental joker and a spare joker slot 🔥🔥
-# its a bait its a bait its a bait...
what would you even dupe
just go next
ts is fucked up :(
DUPE THE CHIP FLUSH GUY ✌️
we stan crafty
ante 7 eye sob
We stan crafy
kinda need the perfect draw to survive
Crafty joker is my spirit animal
who's your spirit joker
maybe you can find a tarot to hold
that's a really funny idea
i need to get a hand like this and I think i survive
still good despite that
Conditionally
oh great, i got a world tarot
Officially switching to Anaglyph deck for my last 2 jokers. I’m starting to think Turtle Bean doesn’t exist on mobile
still gonna need to draw a full house tho
best way to find the jokers you need for c++ is mostly just crazy econ management
Turtle bean doesnt exist, it was all a dream
I've won at least 4-5 games now without seeing Acrobat or Turtle Bean at all. One game I had nat negative golden ticket + Midas Mask
guys whos spirit joker is 8 ball
thank god I found a death
@echo sphinx
hell yeah
nice
and also argil
hi balatro
yes

haha funny
ggs
I remember my first high score
i guess
how does one do gold stake
2 new gold stickers
The answer honestly is "git gud"
Gold stake is understanding most of the core mechanics of Balatro and then "playing what the game gives you"
Having said that, my easiest gold stake runs are when I get Obelisk very early and then just build it for 6-7 antes and then just win easily
just throw shits at the wall and see what sticks and you'll get a gold stake run
there is no solid answer to this
you beat the game
like anu other stake
do remember that rentals are not instant losses
Rentals do suck though
take them if tehyre good and dont obliterate your econ
My last chance at Acrobat was a rental
It being a rental made me poor the whole game
ok yours can be parking
ya its bait
Hell yeah
idk i rekt a few runs before i gave up trying to carry negative weight through a run
Which deck is this
i think red? never ask a colorblind person for color help 😛
i wanted to "clear" c+ as well (i unlocked all)
Oh yes, do C+ before C++
yo otherwise blue for sure
C+ will be a more annoying grind
it's not so bad on unlock all
did it the proper way once, no desire to do it again xD
I get a bigger dopamine rush seeing a $23 over a $20 with lucky cards on Balatro, anyone know why?
what you dont want to play black deck orange stake?
and black deck purple stake
and
Black & Gold
uh maybe cuz it is more money?
105 nongs runs to say that you did something "legit" heh
after you did do it legit once
nongs
Win a run without ever having more than 4 Jokers
guys, this means in the entire run? because i deleted one joker before winning the ant 8 ant not worked
Yes, antes 1-8
oh ok ty
"without ever"
so far my stats
top jokers?
credit card and splash is crazy wtf
dang photo chad or go home
it is literally just photo chad and ante 1-3 jokers lmao
i love me some photo chad tho, just gotta duck da plant
and 4f tbf
seems nomral for starters
thats actually wild
I'm disappointed
i dont play much straights
oh i thought that was like amount of times he's leveled
how do you see this?
Some stats mod
collection > other
yeah but id imagine you come across SOME situations where you have to play a straight on occasion
let me see
but i guess not thats crazy
oh
lol 942 flush five i have 0
a similar page is also on balatrostats.com tbf
where do i find this
lucky first might've done the job
@echo sphinx
am i blind lol
Didn't pop, so no difference
weird
oh i dont have
oh not?
Get it, it's goated
maybe its steammodded?
i kept having to redo achievement progress bc i had mods so i just unisntalled all of them besides handy
and joker display
Only level 5000 pair
looks pretty average
how do you upload your profile?
users/user/appdata/roaming/balatro/slot#
am i the blind one now?
obelisk actually carried me to get gold stake
💀
lol mines is probably 5%
I thought obelisk was a shit joker
Obelisk is top 5 xmult
bruh, how i am so bad at this game, 11.11% is crazy 😿
but how work around it when other strategies are play one particular hand?
chips joker and handsize
havent played in months but at the time it was high card
(and +mult ofcourse)
It's actually brain dead, spam pairs and pivot to high card
yeah i see it, cool stats
the hand to spam for obelisk setup is Pair
as long as youre not like COMPLETELY reliant on hand levels its basically free xmult
obelisk is like one of the best xmult jokers he can just be tedious yk
even if half of your scoring is from planets, thats like 1.25 rounds for obelisk to make that up
based on the last time i saw someone use it, 5 hands can be enough for obelisk (on abandoned deck)
trouble if any is usually the 1-2 round setup time
what the level means?
total times upgraded
not necessarily planets used tho i think it counts spoker and bhole n such
flush chud
how i scaled through the 8 rounds
x2 it's all you need
Usually obelisk runs look like 30 times played pair but I guess that's fine
i meant more like most played hand is played 5 times
Bruh
if youre good with it you can def get away w it lol
bhole took me a few sec 💀
it was almost 4 hands xd
well when the objective is to reach past round 8 then who gives a shit?
Actually that's the strategy for ante 8
it isn't too late to delete
Nobody uses obelisk in endless
im workin on it rn, just need a couple ankh ectos and i'll get there
And usually nobody that likes obelisk play endless at all
obelisk endless is a cosmetic joker om
yo what
i mean, i'm kinda just playing for all the achievements, once i get all of those i'll either just quit the game or go back to grinding balatro multiplayer. update when?
You can always make your own fun
join the gsg torture pit its fun
anything but a job
just personal preference, i
Imagine having a job being minor
i'm already bored of going for stickers, i doubt i'll be in the mood for more balatro once i get them
he was tragically shot whilst writing this 😢
pretty common
fat finger enter instead of '
it happened again 😭
I think it's just me and Zoahl
I don't know if Argil is doing it
i guess ive been in the pit so long you dont even notice im in here
tbf ive not been doing it actively too much
It's my main quest
I'm doing it in order because I hate myself
im doing it in order except black because i dont hate myself THAT much
which is why my stats look like this
I can get consistently to black anyways so
what the fuck
Yall are smart right?
on occasion
I'd say so
I should hex ankh here right?
Context hat
Start if ante 2 btw like after boss
hex ankh ye
No
MAYBE
Just take the full screenshot bro
Absomutely not
trance
Its Start of ante 2 tho
trance and then cryptid
consider the trance cryptid angle
hex ankh hex ankh
cryptid
hex ankh is horrible
But Hex ankh on the brainstorm
trance cryptid is not bad either
hex ankh hex ankh
but if you want to have fun and its like a1 hex ankh is funny
and copy what
funnier
Brainstorm isn't that good
cope
is hex ankh good? no
is it funnier
go get em
dies to round 5 when you have 0 scoring besides 2.25xmult
nothing bad could possibly happen
i'd have money by then for a scoring joker
Blue it's better anyways
i found the constellation astronomer yuri
happy now?
That's actually so good
(cuz its better)
middle ground: use hex, sell the joker it hits, and then cryptid the 9 of spades
Trance cryptid
thanks to lesbianism, yeah
pikachu is not that into nurse joy
Context im on checkered deck
i deckfixed down to 31 cards but still failed to draw 5th card for a straight
this is what we call a compromise
both sides give up their synergy and u end up with a sad sad game
Even better
bottomdecked all 4
descendants
ALL my straights run die to horrible draws specifically ante 7
this is not possible with optimal discard strat
it wasnt optimal to be fair because i was hoping i can keep steel in hand
game just hates me fr
it probably is but youd have to be very unlucky in a very specific set of circumstances
when one side wants fries
and the other side wants cake
introducing...
cake fries
cries
an open casket funeral
frike also works
you see 33 cards when full discarding/playing to discard at 4/2
they said they have 31
well we dont know the exact circumstances
it can be possible with hiero, etc.
but thats all active player choice, the game cant force you
yeah so it is my fault because i was discard-playing 2 at a time hoping i can keep steel in hand
it backfired quickly 🐎🔥
i feel like thats kinda an oversimplification but im not gonna like argue on this point its not like anyone is saying they did discard optimally
yeah my discarding was horrible
does getting some points on The Wall or Violet Vessel and then selling Luchador to disable their effect and lower their requirement win the round immidietly if the point requirement goes below your current score?
i had burglar too so like
So genuine question, what do I do now that I have completionist++?
new save file
do it all over again
100% or winstreaks
play gold stake gauntlet idk
i took a short break and then started playing without pairs
straights is the way to go
the curse of ante 7 though
Yeah, should be non binary
i mean all my runs are very gay but i like playing straights
I really like wild cards now
gay? im in.
I know pairs are hella broken, but I just usually did 5 of a kind runs. I found them easier
Im in! 1.3 seconds
sure i concede that it's not impossible, that there are some circumstances. but i feel like they are salient enough that they would be disclosed
rarest type of player 😭
They just have lots of potential
White stake?
Gold
gold stake planet X player, love it
Bruh
I might be different 😂
gold stake earth player when
I mean, with enough deck fixing everything is possible
@coarse mulch what were your fave jokers? family?
Ew
full houses suck ass but to be fair they did carry my erratic deck
I gotta think. I mean hanging Chad obviously, but I gotta look thru and see which ones I consider a favorite
Just play 3oak ❤️🩹
just play pair- wait
maximizing steven/fib
Just play 4oak ❤️🩹
no
just play the blue hand
straights are only good in balatro
not really
i hate the environment so i chopped down all the oaks and play straights
yes reallu
in most poker games straight is usually the nuts
william dafoe gif
I'd say walkie talkie, and scholar. They gave me a good card to go for without taking many joker slots.
no youre Eva -2
its way easier to get a straight than a full house in poker
or a flush
-1 after this run, hopefully
all kinds of perplexing builds come out of gold stake
i do love me some aces
i aint exactly blue, but i ain't exactly green
😂
why did you spell "ain't" in two different ways
idiot
🤣 🫱🏼
+2 chips per remaining card in deck and +1 mult per hand played, -1 mult per discard
that ai'nt it
I love face card runs so much because they just have the craziest jokers with them, but the boss blinds really make it good or bad
na'ti*
Usually all face cards debuffed 😬
i hate face cards runs
+2 mult per card not remaining in deck
overpowered much
erosion if it was blue
plant is a badly designed boss blind imo
But you can't lie, when a good one shows, it definitely is crazy
oh okay
WHAY IS WRONG WITH YOU? WHY ARE YOU blue?
whenever i see photo i buy it and immideately sell it out of disrespect
mista white
ah, wires!
they should add a joker thats like bull but for +mult
i domt buy it cause im money smart
yess magnets bitch
would it be called something like bootstraps
Bootstone
i need to rewatch breaking bad
i think youre talking about flash card obv
and the sequel, making good
What's the assest jokers kn your opinion
Im the opposite. The moment I see photograph, I bank on a hanging Chad and at that point the runs basically a win for me.


