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You may be right, but I stand by that number. I don't think anybody currently has the skill to pull off 90%
Can you naninf on 50% of seeds then? Because thats the only way i can believe that claim when way better players estimate much lower
and thatās only considering vouchers
Thereās a difference between hypothetically possible and realistically doable
Sure, which is why i asked for 50%
Thats very very different from 90 (like 50% wr on gold stake is trivial, 90% is hard)
To be completely honest, I haven't tried enough seeds with my routing to give an accurate percentage
Why do you say routing
Are you talking of seeded runs
No, like the general game plan
As thereās gonna come a point where if you re-rolled one more time, you find blueprint ante 2. But you saved your money and then BP doesnāt show up until ante 17
Stick with idol, sock, gold ticket until ante 18 ish generally
Assuming you find all of these early enough
90% of my runs where I've died/not naneinfed it's been to a clear mistake/oversight, while the run was on very good pace
I donāt believe that for a second
Thereās no way only 10% died due to bad luck
Cuz the implication there is youāve never been unlucky
probably closer to 70%
I've been unlucky. But good enough gameplay usually eliminates the need for luck.
to be clear are we disregarding seeded strategies like lining up a negative skip to land on blueprints?
You're prob right on that one tbh
nah
So let me ask you this
Yeah, no seeded. Hypothetically just correct decisions without future knowledge
well i mean using double tags on negative skips for bp lol
im talking about specifically lining up the shop
unseeded, white stake plasma, not allowed to take ANY vouchers?
how would u lineup on unseeded
u wouldnāt
hmm that's a good question
You can on Xbox or game pass
what
If you die on Xbox you can go back
most runs probably fizzle out before ante 21
honestly I'd have to pull out some math for that one
no hand size or antimatter makes it rough to survive longer
oh
So you can die on purpose, get the seed, and then put it in the generator
assuming no bean bug?
thats basically seeded then lol
I mean yes basically
yeah savescumming makes a run no different than seeded imo
But itās not a pre picked out seed where itās like all the lengendaries by ante 2
My first attempt at naneinf was like that. I used manipulation to get a negative burglar lol
So I had like 23,000 dollars before I screwed up somewhere
manipulation?
Yeah I rerolled until burglar was the next joker in the shop and then did negative skip
Thatās the seeded manipulation
u used the xbox thing?
alr
You canāt redo on steam
i just got my first naneinf today
Good for you!
Always a nice accomplishment
Gold stake naneinf on PC and C++ on mobile are my two grinds
thx
One is way more fun than the other
would die ante 18 I believe with 0 vouchers
the c++?
how much harder is it than white stake naneinf
significantly
Iāve done white stake naneinf about a dozen times
hypothetically 50% drops to less than 10%
Gold stake Iāve had one singular occasion where I had everything but burglar
Literally ONE
Every other time Iāve been missing vouchers or ectoplasm or usually you just die early cuz the jokers suck and you canāt take any eternals that arenāt part of your final build
damn so u havent gottten gold stake naneinf yet?
lol for me if i do more than like 3 attempts in a row i cant keep going
gold stake naneinf is genuinely awful unless you're perkolating ghost deck
I had a decent run yesterday where I found ectoplasm three times before I could safely take it and therefore by the time I needed it, it was gone
Yeah and Iām not doing thatā¦yet
Bruh.
Wheel is so nice
Granted I donāt want to do a filtered peek seed for gold stake either, Iād want it fully legit
Allows for much more leeway for using ecto's
I also learnt that Castle only works with the suits that are currently in your deck.
i think naneinf took me around 10 attempts
while my first gold stake took me 1 attempt
Iām gonna load up white stake and see how it goes
gold stake unseeded is fs easier than naneinf
yeah
C++ isn't even that bad once you figure out how to play and then basically just keep playing your best deck
its just time consuming right
Basically yes
so took me around 15 days from when i first started playing balatro to my first naneinf
And sometimes you just happen to run into the worst boss
but an 80% win rate for gold stake is pretty impressive. Meanwhile the skill gap with dr spectered is huge, where he can achieve 99.9% winrate while screwing around, not trying, and going for c++
c++ is interesting if you choose to make it interesting
or you can just slam square bus campfire carry2 every run
I will also admit
I under no circumstances could ever play as slow as Doc does during his important runs
Hence why he's always gonna be better
That's what I'm saying. If someone has perfect gameplay, practicing naneinf for years, I believe they could pull off a 90%
Yeah. He considers every tiny choice and the butterfly effect it could have.
guys anyone wanna attempt a challenge i thought of
Hence why my winrate with naneinf went up when I changed from 2 hour naneinfs to 4 hour naneinfsš
whats the challenge
(with speedup mods)
you play on any deck other than checkered deck but when you beat ante 8 your deck has to be exactly like the checkered deck
like the starting deck or just all spade/heart
both
so basically, pairslop with lots of tarot generation
i mean
you dont have to do pairslop š
but ig thats prob the easiest
perkeo with a sun and world
flush could be doable if it's white stake
lmao
im on the road, cant play rnrn xD
xD
i like how when i unlocked brainstorm (discard royal flush) i immediataely played a royal flush after that
tell u what tho, I'll start tracking my winrate with naneinf from now on
should I take the soul?
I doubt I'll ever get a sample size big enough to display a true percentage tho
but a rough estimate could be cool
I'll try for my 3rd naneinf in a row tomorrow hopefully
and it'll be my first datapoint for my naneinf rate
if I win I'll have 100% naneinf rate guys
513h and never did naninf
I was doing the typecast challenge and I defeated ante 4 with gross Michelle wondering if it will become eternal too
BTW isn't this challenge kinda crazy?
It gives you 10 joker slots
Nope, you can't buy anymore jokers
quick question, does using Familiar when the pareidolia is present gives you other than J Q K
Highly highly doubt it
Q was wild?
stuntman with flushes, interesting
checkered gonna help
why isn't a highcard a flush š
should've been a flush cuz it only contains one suit š
XD
Flush card
Yo big dawg
I'm afraid flush contains of 5 cards of the same suit
lmao this score is from a lv3 pair hand
Show canio scoring
it's just 5 high cards :P
So five flush
Are we serious?
The game decided to give me four Spades and three Hearts right till the last hand.
so is every single hand i guess
If you think about it all pairs and oak's are jsut multiple high cards
Except 2 pair
highcard is just half a pair
Pair is juast half a 4oak
a highcard is just 1/8 of a clusterfuck
-# cryptid ball knower? any?
oh no, i hope it's not my wrathful joker
A clusterfuck is just a 1/6.5 of a the entire fucking deck
First time seeing poly golden card
Found out today that multiple credit cards let you go 20$ more in debt
Is there a record of most -$?
welp gg
2 new gold stickers
can finally sell the wrathful
just a x16.4 vampire and x15 canio
ride the bus is so ahh
depends, if it's the early game, it's pretty good
well maybe cuz im doing straight flushes rn š
i would love to not see bus or grimbo early game because I dont need to play with them
is the wraith gamba worth it
cuz chad is not really needed rn
well, it's not worth it cuz it's a driver license
WE ALL lowk need hanging chad but for jokers
we lowkey need that without the chad
FINALLY
aw jeez thats tough
Holy shit
x23.2 vampire and x19 canio
Gros Michel popped and the first shop had negative Cavendish
this seed is crazy tho, just vampire and midas mask first two shop
black banana
Another soul
Perkeo
I have to sell one to survive
They have such a great combo
do i get rid of juggler or bean here?
Plasma is awful on higher stakes
what do i copy? mime or parking?
nevermind
im dumb
If you have lots of gold, get rid of juggler
this is ante 2 lol
Parking but remember to copy mime at end of round
Hmm, i think its still juggler gone, bean lets ypu get a lot money temporarily to find other stuff
i just lost because of a bad draw
juggler gone instead of bean woulda saved me
oh well
probably the best deck fixing ive got pre endless
damnnn son
honestly wasnt bad at all for me
maybe i got lucky idk
but i did pure chips builds
didnt notice boss blind/:
i feel you ššš
Difference is mines a lot more fixable
I don't need the spades I just had them
You had arrowhead
ante 7 too which is like
i was there, if not him id win š
The pain of not noticing a joker is eternal
do i sell the fools for space joker... this could be some yummy pair slop
Sell one fool
Credit card in judgment in arcana pack
lmao
it actually worked
Wait what
in my defense : why even uses this (longest one to get out of all balatrodle)
if you're got a large number of hands/burglar
fair enough i never used burglar too
pls speed i need this
minus infinity econ
dw you'll get rebate soon enough
the funny thing about rental blueprint/brainstorm is that the cost to take it is way easier on your econ initially
cro
idkany challenge
no discarding
like compared to basically all other jokers, which take 2 blinds to match/outpace the joker's cost, blueprint and brainstorm both take 3+ blinds
chicot
i forgot how to spell it again
but the one what makes every card considered as face card after winning the game
trust me bro
Pareidolia
š¤¤
WHAT
Holy shit
deckfix + $3
no like don't you need discard for it
-1 mult for deckfixing, 3 dollars and extra X1 mult is a good ass deal
fair enough
now im winning too fast tho
now get pareidolia trust
dammit
ya first discard. worth unless youre critically short on immediate blue seals or something
13 xmult incoming
Lemme manifest a Pareidolia for u rq
i mean, it's a 3 in 13 chance
don't
i meaaan
Do it
ALL KINGS
Di it
-handsize theoretically bad but looks like youre setup for pairs anyways
Youre a fucking liar
Holy SHIT
20 xmult otw
HOLY
first run of the day and im getting all the stuff i'd want

thank you Big Thunk, had the worst night ever
also just noticed how it's already been a year since Yahimod
time flies wow
seems like yesterday
damn already
and it's been like 3 weeks maybe idk since i bought balatro
meow
thank you glass for breaking
well thats awkward
chicot cameo
im not eva
but eternal riffraff when you have open slots almost always instatake
wait does it create eternal jokers
or normal jokers
no, always free of perish/eternal/rental
how do you know you're not eva
you can get foil/negative/etc
i see
good point
then yeah eternal riff raff with madness goes hard
imo
unless it ate my +mult joker
madness doesnt need to be fed, it goes up even if it doesnt destroy a joker
no pears under 5 years allowed or else i burn them
ahhh i see
any eternals with madness goes hard then
loool close
or just
teto pear
pairless (gold stake) 5-streak

7 eternal madness, one of which negative on black deck
wtf
yeah close enougj
madness naneinf is real
chat how close am I to naneinf /j
i think idk
jimbo naneinf
actually every scoring joker can naneinf
just get perkeo and 1 billion ectos and ankhs
jokerless naneinf
use negative cards
1 business day
woah i got a Gay 7
epic sauce
do people even say awesome sauce and stuff like this anymore
i still do it's funny
peal naneinf
pak*
omg bruh
peak*
but high card only naneinf
straight flush naneinf
2nd hardest challenge imo
cant say a lot about it bcs I got really lucky with my Saturn planets playing straights and beat it on my second try
lol
xd
guys im getting so many deaths and glass kings this is life
DIE GLASS KINGS
BREAKKKK
ngl i should stop playing modded balatro again and actually play vanilla balatro
.....glup
glup
and try to get all achievements
this might break me more than previous indie game GoTY nominee
Celeste
omg bruh
this typo
Golden Needle is hardest. I win Jokerless in 1st try. I used Flush š Ypu must modify deck, using planet and seals, glass card also. Everything that give you more points
still slowly otw to 175 strawberries
deja vu trance judgement wizard and some planet cards
noted
finished it
cant believe I just got my first naneinf today
nice! how was farewell?

that's like the first experience
but now
i did more harder than farewell
thanks modded Celeste
damn. one day i will make it haha
gl
tbh i just noticed ive been winning first hand everytime and that grimbo is only at 18
wavedash harder
i really thought she was putting in the work smh
btw i also got moonberry
replaced with an idol cus when am i ever gonna get a run where i use idol
might aswell get the sticker now
stencil naneinf
:D
i mean by justice not judgement LOL
and uhh cryptid
Boss was the Hook
rerolls once
Psychic
mr WHAT
wait can i post that
if i were you i would delete that
you saw nothing
I need fifteen billion dollars
uhh
download cryptid mod
get money beanstalk
get compounding interest
boom
Will that be enough to reroll into a negative baron, negative mime, three hundred blue prints, two hundred brainstorms, thorty thousand cryptids and fifteen red seals to beat black deck gold stake?
no
sadly
gg 5 stickers
Darn it
Funni number go brr
ggs
Fym "only"
"only"
you were right
dw it's "only" 4 million
Gay men
Why the s
im eva and eva is right
checks out
Gay mans
how do i differentiate between Gay Man and Gay Men when I can only use the initials?
You dont
Simple
that's so gay
straight flush build so fun
Duh
thought this was your hand for a sec and didnt understand how you had that hand size
Gay Flushā¢.
well, it's just 3 hand size tags
since it's nine more than normal
stupid eva
sttouuupp š
Eva why u rambli
so evil
š
yeah it was my deck
like 24 cards
no
Amazing Holo start.
were in the deck
-# someone post an hk shitpost quick
knowing how hard purple stake is im not mad
After getting gold stake on Anaglyph.
I've got a bit of a respect towards some skips.
Money ones are still superior though.
the $25 one is kinda a must
Yeah.
When we say never skip we dont mean ante 1 investment tag
nooo :(
airfryer number 1 best thing
ps1 better
Nuh uh
cus nostalgia wins
Hold on lemme check if there is a balatro psp port, those crazy assholes could do it
i always forget how the ps1 released way earlier than the nes
yes there is
no wait
maybe its a gameboy
i forgot
well its a portable thats for sure
Holy fucking shit THERE IS
Get Lucha as a keepsake or skip?
"Three of everything" Ahh deck
lol the deck was 22 cards
was it abandoned deck?
sƩance goes hard
Any tip from pros?
okay
Hi
someone tell me what to do? i still need dna for copying red seal steel, do i just sell one baron and buy blueprint?
Yes
okay thanks
yeah
yeah sadly i didnt get it
first attempt at the checkered challenge
the fact that i cant put enhancements, seals, or editions on cards makes it way harder
maybe i should try plasma deck
whats the challenge
you have to win while your deck is the exact same as the checkered deck
without playing the checkered deck
whats better? copy baron or mime? or both?
copy baron
do u have red seals or no
also what is that texture pack lol
do 2 barons and 2 mimes
I hate having to use Photochad.
But if it completes the stake.
I'll just take it.
I don't wanna be doing orange stake/gold stake over and over again on this deck.
They were all natural spawns too.
feels easier
checkered with another deck enhancement
no i mean
you have to deck fix
to checkered deck
oh
before beating ante 8
yeah ig
it would be way easier if there wasn't an ante limit
maybe i should do that first
peak
yeah
well that is one way
how much is wee joker on
1k
crazy
well ig it scales by 8 everytime
so its not that much
like 125 times
merely 35 chad hands
yeah
it's not that rare to get wee to 1k
who i killl
no crop
unless you're fairly built for baron id kill it
i have palette and trobadour
ok
yea probably but it depends on deck comp and planet levels
only planet is earth, level 2 house šš
i need some levels
preferrably on high
so burnt is pretty important
replace rebate for ttm?
found some talisman so i took chad right away
2 talisman
ohhh

Should I ankh red fist ?
prolly ankh the fist
could be trance too
immolate is also an option
dont think ttm would be worth
+OVERKILL
i would ankh the fist and then start building to steels
trance is winning. ankh could kill the run for lack of chips
ttm?
to the moon
Wouldn't incantation be good too?
why would it
well behind trance and immo
i feel this is troll
Bro I'm learning chill 
immolate >>>>
removing cards is very good
trance is next best
blue seals are the single most powerful mechanic in the game
Professional gambler
Inmolate?
Destroy 5 cards?
hey if you need help i'm here for you
Inceniator?
yes
immo over blue seal #1?
for $20
I struggle wuth uhh
Mine's not even there
Tip mr on beating green stake
immolate is unfair with how it has 2 upsides
No fun (gambling) allowed
Glazer
what does this mean
It means you blightenly like something
Capitalist stats
You think it's best because uhh
Same stuff bro
because of logic and game knowledge
Ok
Peak voucher
Fr
Always good never bad
I actually shoked that tgere no joker that boosted by low hand size
I think there must be a way to benefit from lowering yo shi
it's really good but it's hitting interest cap and 2ish hangs vs 0.7 planets per round- both incredible
ig with their foil the planets are less urgent but played correctly it looks like theyre sailing through the next few hands with lots of extra hand value, which should get them to interest cap
"glazing"
no, Immolate is just that strong
ridiculously good
I agree that they're pretty similar options in strength
In no universe is the answer ankhing fist, thats for sure
WHAT IS THIS SHOP
baseball bait lolol
one that foreshadows 0 uncommons in the next 10
honestly I'm just seeing 10 extra temperance dollars
im seeing grimbo's rental fee strangling the run x_x
temperance next shop trust
ok let's see
the least hand i ever had
time to add troub
the needle experience š„
i used to have eight balls
hot take
if your top 6 tarots are not (in some order) hanged death temperance hermit emperor fool
you're probably undervaluing them
checkered streak of 2
i dont think this is a hot take
flush build?
pairs
hm how does pair build have hc most played
oh were you sandbagging grimbo or something?
got it
canio
Aura
chip mult econ. the xmult is coming gg
20 xmult canio incoming
ig youll have to wait for the second soul this run
trib never does anything for me during sticker runs
i swear the temperances stop queueing
seatwarming for the next soul
I swear to god I'll never beat blue stake
square instead of fortune teller? (+11)
youll get there but kinda tricky with fist full house
sly is weaker
sticker
you had burnt a while ago so ya with sly you can probably afford the temp chip hit
and you have enough xmult
maowmeow
fool being this high is because this is magic deck exclusive
i think your devil take matches doc, maybe i undervalue devil?
that is because you're doing pairless
ya girl is back on her bullshit again
not because you're undervaluing the devil
hm emperor ev is so high tho
almost died to THE WHEEL
my two active profiles
im surprised magician is so high. ig i like gambol?
lucky cards are very good
ya but consistently over devil is interesting
i probably undervalue fool
Should I take thief and voucher?
balatro
boo. didnt draw the kings when you needed them?
3 checkered streak!!!!
im.not answering, you boo'd me š¢
What is this start?
(I got lucky with a Poly skip after doing a eco tag. The got the other two face jokers from Judgement)
whats your pb?
I JUST ALMOST GOT IT BUT 2 CARDS WERE OFF AND I FORGOT I HAD ARROWHEAD AND DISCARDED FOR HEART FLUSH š
on big blind
using vagabond
on plasma deck
yeah this helped a lot
insane overstock buy gives me this š
I'd take all three of those jokers.
yeah i did
update: bullshit failed on ante 7 lol
Yeah I should really focus on easier hands I think
take take take
hii what's the jokerdisplay bug you've encountered
if you could tell me here that would be great :3
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1241580123766128761
Oh hi! Let me load up the game and I'll try and show you!
Since the last update it's just not showing details on the jokers :)
I've taken director's cut, I've taken the tribe as a backup, I've tried save scumming, yet I still didn't read the boss blind. Splendid.
Can I get jokers with conditions from Riff-Raff?
reading is the hardest boss blind
I'm concerned your hanging chad wasn't leftmost
Show your deck
Ive already lost but there's like 40 heart cards, most of them are polychrome aces
Ouf that hurts yeah
yes foil/holo/poly/neg
no eternal/perishable/rental
Only good ones then, noted thx
ended with flush house š„
fuck ts game š¹ āļø
bro played a high card āļø
the eye sucks (me too) š
Replace burglar for card sharp ?
WHY is throwback there
replace smiley face
Cuz it's at X2.5
yeah id say smiley too
burglar with sharp goes crazy
omg bro how many did you skip
Throwback killed my run last night cause I was being biblically accurate greedy
Not enough
you should look yourself in the mirror
throwback should never EVER leave x1
L take
ante 1 investment
burn me at the stake for all I care
neg tag are trash bro get OUT
I had it at x5 once lmao
get out
same run with your 5x throwback i could prolly scored e10 bro
but it's funny š
-# dies ante 5
bro who tf dying on some blue stake
difficulty spike smh
W take
Kill all Black Decks.
green joker ā
blue seals ā
hologram ā
constell ā
Love abandoned deck for 4oak
barely made it through š needing to play 2 straight flushes to get out š
guys do i take ice cream here
Next run lol wtf
guys im crying rn
+5 chips (was hungry)
Melted!
I've found out my cue for if a run is good enough: I get gros michel and if it dies in one round, I win, else I die
darn you perishable (cant buy it anyway but that would've been fun)
madness is not a bad idea
imagine taking madness
I swear glass joker prevents glass from breaking
I'm on ante 8 and had the glass joker since ante 3
hang man it
what couldve been TT
lame stickering...
blessed lineup tbh
stickering?
i took the ss bc jimbo showed up in the shop
oooh
plasma blue steak done
i got u
Madness was hexed, it's on x8, glass is on x1.75 because of the hung man I found in the last shop
I was lucky to find one of the ten jokers I have left to sticker
A rare one is good, I believe it was my last rare
Natural eternal blueprint with madness is madness
madness?
Well all eternals are natural..
how do you get an unnatural eternal lmfao
crazy? i was crazy once
Left: Blackboard, Superposition, Faceless, Shortcut, Showman, Cartomancer and Bootstraps
I fucked this up so bad it's not even funny...
they named jokers after this guy
I was focusing on getting more stinkers on this go on Black++ so a few okay jokers are left this time
@localfunk is this true
localstunk
localtrunk
local gunk
localbunk
localthunk dont know about globalthunk and it shows
If I sell my burglar after the round started, will I just lose my 3 hands ?
No
nope
It has a trigger condition
Great thanks
FUCK this game
dude snagged that order gold sticker
Yea its good once u get it running
like any other decks would
But atp u beat any other Deck too
I had some close calls on straight runs, but all of my straight joker stickers are from being extras
owww š
I have yet to get a highscore on plasma
i love me some hologram
theyre calling this the most chokeable run
havent played ina while but my first run was a black dekc run and won it so im feeling good
plasma my hatred
indeed
I had alil monkey neuron activation moment first time I used plasma lol, then the high went down after a bit
Who is thunk
Local punks
hes only local thunk if u live in canada, ur forced to call him thunk if u live outside
6 copy jokers and 20 handsize lol
I think i thunk a thought , have no idea
thank thenk think thonk thunk
do i sell anything for invis
vro how
choked
I have no idea what i did (im new)
I didn't even realize my jokers were particularly good and i also wasnt able to replicate such a big score in 1 hand again
bean bug go brr
Genuinely how do you guys make your whole deck be the same card
just get a glass face card
and chad + photo will easily get u more score then that
more you play better you get at money management and deck fixing
I didn't realize glass cards were so good


not always good but in ur case chad + photo + glass will get you a lot of score
as long as ur planet level has high mult for that hand
is this cooked, theres 124 steel cards in here and its ant 21
holy bro what is this spec pack
average tbh
Homeless hungry people:
how many uncommons are there š
More than 4 at least
61
unless you mean
in your joker slots rn
ok jesus i finally got it
More than 4 at least
20k ig
did i do it
theres 64 uncommons
I'm sorry, game???
not enough legendaries
Imagine I do get a second tribulet
Because of showman
Yorik would be insane too, I have four discards
(voucher in the shop)
almost made it to ante 16š
selling chad for the third legendary would be the lmaoest shit ever
I hate Bloodstone
Alternatively, do I sell Canio for Spaceman
trib
im praying its a perkeo
lesbian hornet is canonnnnn
mb, got commons and uncommon # mixed up
okay so odd question has anyone else experienced this?
i haven't figured it out exactly but basically if I double click out of the big blind shop in a certain way i can replay the small blind
return by death ahh
lmaoooo
insert rezero death sound effect
IT WAS PERKEO
š
how do i naneinf now
cyrptid
i havent seen this issue.
You can frame perfect skip and select blind, but ive not heard of your issue in vanilla.
yh
cuz u can just keep playing the 6 over and over and get ur 6 back
but like i rly need the ecto for it to work
its too late for perkeo to do anything
u sure
probably
round counter ticks up and everything lmao, ignore the goofy ahh font but it happened to me a few antes ago and now i'm at round 22 even though it should be round 21
and no this isn't a hieroglyph situation i can show vouchers
lets hear it š¤£
you either sell a brainstorm for 6th or you dont naneinf or you naneinf the normal way and sell perkeo for 6th for ecto
thats what I'd do
but goodluck
damn
goin back to my unlocks
its much more likely to be an issue with your mods than vanilla, given this issue hasnt been reported before


