🕹・game-discussion

[flat tiger]

its not like you never just die to first boss because both shop give you nothing

[gentle basalt]

less probability

you can always die, it is a game about minimizing probability to die

[shell dagger]

round 4 is the bigger problem

[flat tiger]

and black deck exists, the ultimate "early game rely mostly on RNG"

[surreal sandal]

I hate The Plant... Unseeded Ante 39 was possible

[shell dagger]

unlucky

[flat tiger]

if you do that you are doing pairs 90% of the time, which many including me find boring

[errant knoll]

Does baseball card go before or after chip and +mult? Is it like photo or is it like Cavendish?

[gentle basalt]

basebal card location doesnt mater

[shell dagger]

neither, it essentially turns other jokers polychrome

[flat tiger]

you want to put uncommons on the right side of + mult with baseball

[shell dagger]

so the position of the other uncommons matters

[flat tiger]

i dont think the position of baseball itself matter

[errant knoll]

I have rocket, baseball card, and polychrome cartomamcer

[gentle basalt]

then your advice should be stickered with "i am not talking about what is optimal, but what is fun for me"

[flat tiger]

put the + mult on far left, +mult uncommon left, other uncommon on the right

[gentle basalt]

if you have 2 +mult uncommons, the smaller one goes later

[errant knoll]

I have a polychrome uncommon

No +mult

[flat tiger]

optimal for win rate is also not the same as optimal for beating a deck asap, like most people going C+, in terms of time black deck is not even a bad deck

[flat tiger]

doesnt matter until you get + mult and more uncommons

[errant knoll]

Okay thank you.

[gentle basalt]

optimal for win rate is also not the same as optimal for beating a deck asap
ofcourse thats true

but like C+ is already pretty easy, so i dont see the point in that

[errant knoll]

I like to go left to right: money/utility, then retrigger then chip then +mult then xmult. I barely use baseball card cuz I was always confused where to put it

[gentle basalt]

retrigger the chip?

what

oh order of jokers

[errant knoll]

Retrigger like Chad, smiley, photo

[gentle basalt]

huh, smiley, photo are not retriggers

[flat tiger]

you know how much in the minority we are in right? right?

[gentle basalt]

they are just on-trigger jokers

[errant knoll]

Should I put smiley with my +mult instead of in front?

[gentle basalt]

i presume if you are in a discord server about it, you have played the game a bit

[errant knoll]

Or does it matter

[tight pike]

There should be an achievement named Paradox for having a blueprint copy a brainstorm while those are the only 2 jokers you have

[gentle basalt]

smiley location doesnt matter unless you have something like photo/ancient/bloodstone/idol

which are on-trigger xmult

on-trigger mult before on-trigger xmult

[green apex]

of course.

[errant knoll]

Gotcha thank you

[tight pike]

Credit card in the b- oh

[twilit storm]

what would be the most consistent way to hit naneinf. I want to do it unseeded

[flat tiger]

rebate + vagabond is a good combo

[flat tiger]

i dont think theres "consistent ways" to naneinf unseeded

you roll runs until you get the RNG for it

[gentle basalt]

perkeo cryptid is the easiest if you want to just reroll till you get perkeo

baron mime serpent is the most consistent

[fringe nebula]

reset robert

[flat tiger]

you talk like you auto die if you see 1 shop less

[spark kernel]

THANKS CRIMSON HEART FOR DISABLING MY FUCKING ACROBAT WHEN I NEEDED IT

[fringe nebula]

you will

people tend to underestimate ante 1 alot smh

[twilit storm]

is plasma deck best for that

[gentle basalt]

yes

[twilit storm]

is it smart to reroll until i get a blueprint or brainstorm from rare skip?

[vale shale]

Helo gamers. 1 take gold stake run any deck. Which deck are we thinking bout.

[flat tiger]

black deck

[lime remnant]

great refresher after a millionth pairslop

[flat tiger]

Fib ❤️

what a nice card

[green apex]

fucked up the mouth but its fine.

W acrobat

[lime remnant]

4 stickers

super big

its funny i havent get rough gem yet i might have to get it

[flat tiger]

i wished the suit jokers are +4 instead of +3

[lime remnant]

no because we hate flushes

all flush user should die

[flat tiger]

good luck ante 1-2 without flushes

[turbid nova]

I’m playing black deck I can’t afford shii on the first shop anyway

[flat tiger]

TBH i think flush is the most balanced hand, not boring OP like pairs while also easy enough to do unlike FH/straights

[fringe nebula]

you are guaranteed to be able to buy shop 1 buffoon pack

and will always be

[turbid nova]

horray eternal rental sly joker 🫩

[green apex]

when i needed a suit changer and this is what the game offers me 😔
1.5k off

[calm furnace]

balatro would be a better game if all those jockers except mime were removed from the game

[lime remnant]

im going to do a very bold move

[gleaming bone]

whats the play here? do i get invisible joker? if so what to sell?

[turbid nova]

How dare you diss shoot the moon and smiley

[calm furnace]

shoot the ass

[fringe nebula]

polychrome jolly

next

[calm furnace]

rather have fist over stm any day

[lime remnant]

shhh

[flat tiger]

FAMILY TOGETHER~~~

[lime remnant]

1 in a million chance family works

i like those odds

[calm furnace]

why wouldnt it work

especially on ghost

ghost/abandoned/painted can easily do 4oak

[flat tiger]

4oak is no where close to be that rare

[lime remnant]

never said it wouldnt 🔥

[flat tiger]

4oak is a decent hand if you dont want to pair

[gentle basalt]

how does ghost help 4 of a kind? there is medium and immolate but thats it?

and those are pretty rare

[flat tiger]

FH is what dont make sense to me, why does it scale almost the same with 3oak

[calm furnace]

cryptid familiar grim

[gentle basalt]

blue can do 4 of a kind better than painted, hand size not that relevant since you are always drawing for the same cards

[calm furnace]

ouija

[gentle basalt]

cryptid only*

[gleaming bone]

?

[calm furnace]

more mediums

[gentle basalt]

does not exist

[flat tiger]

immolate kill a lot of card making 4oak draw a lot easier

[calm furnace]

grim does what cryptid does

[lime remnant]

omg bro wraith gives stunt

im never touching family again

[calm furnace]

going for aces 4oak is very viable

[flat tiger]

immolate into ouija already make 4oak almost online already

[gentle basalt]

no, cryptid lets you make more blue/purple rather than useless aces
just being able to play 4 of a kind does not matter that much

[turbid nova]

It’s honestly worth struggling on the first ante boss for $25

[flat tiger]

a strength here and there, a hangman here and there, immolate/ouija already make 4oak quite reliable

[calm furnace]

one grim and one strength and you have 2 4oaks of aces ready

[lime remnant]

allat for pair build being almost immediately online 😂

like

[calm furnace]

aces are one of the better ranks

[flat tiger]

yeah, thats why pair is slop and boring

[lime remnant]

HUH

???

excuse me

aces is trash

are*

[calm furnace]

aces are trash if you have endless brainrot

for gold stake aces are on of the best ranks in the game

[lime remnant]

😂

dont make me cry sonn

[calm furnace]

aces are bosses reseliant

[flat tiger]

if you pair you dont care about any of these, if you do 4-5oak you want higher cards to make early game easier anyway

[lime remnant]

ace aka "what does he even do?"

[flat tiger]

also yes, aces dont care about plant, and odd todd

[calm furnace]

score the most chips
have scholar
boss reseliant

[turbid nova]

I almost pulled off an ace 4oak run with ouija plus the two paint vouchers

I found the family but it was perishable 🥀

[calm furnace]

and have grim

[calm furnace]

and febonasty

[lime remnant]

easiest to deck fix thats why kts trash cro

[flat tiger]

why make Ks when I can make Aces

[lime remnant]

k is like

second worst

im sorry

those and aces are out of the game immediately

[calm furnace]

no reason to kill aces if you are not playing straights

[flat tiger]

if you want to do 4oak you need to survive early game, you dont want a bunch of 2s without wee

[lime remnant]

0 compatibility except like scholar

[calm furnace]

and?

Ks have compatibility doesnt make them any good

[flat tiger]

even odd todd is good if you are doing 4oak

[lime remnant]

fym and folk 😂

[lime remnant]

at least king has midas 😄

[gentle basalt]

lets also give you one hangman

so 51 card deck with 8 aces
chances to not draw 4 of a kind : 9.6%
which is pretty bad if you are dependent on that each round

[calm furnace]

well 4oak is not an easy hand to draw

[gentle basalt]

and you are basically forced to use almost all hands

[calm furnace]

grim existence makes it the easiest to stack aces

[calm furnace]

yeah with the -1 discard you are pretty much doing that

[fringe nebula]

@knotty zodiac is this something you experience on daily basis

[calm furnace]

its also why things like telescope dont work with 4oak and such builds

because you gonna be playing so many throaway hands

[lime remnant]

talm bout some grim

[calm furnace]

even with 3oak builds i end up with high card as my most played hand because of throwaway hands

[gentle basalt]

btw, you see roughly twice as many grims as blueprints on an average run

[flat tiger]

Familiar and Incantation doesnt really help if you do otehr ranks, grim always help Aces

[calm furnace]

on ghost?

[gentle basalt]

thats not something worth building towards

yes

[calm furnace]

Incantation is hologram feeder thats about it

or a big gamble to get gold cards

familiar is ok because it can spawn jacks and jacks are goated

[flat tiger]

well even familiar helps aces because you ahve more cards you can resonably strength to Aces

[calm furnace]

out of the 3 spectrals that add cards, grim is the best because it gives one rank

[flat tiger]

so you creat more chances to get Aces

[calm furnace]

unless you have hologram and pairslopping then you dont want grim

[flat tiger]

like I said if you pair slop you wont care about any of these

4oak is something fun to play not something that is reliable

i am just annoyed that FH dont scale better, its basically 3oak

[calm furnace]

yeah, but if the game gives me the family im gonna go for 4oak because 4x is 4x

[flat tiger]

meanwhile flower pot

[lime remnant]

aces aka mr. 0 retriggers

[gentle basalt]

you realize being able to play 4 scoring hands is also a 4x

[calm furnace]

mars scales so good that you only need few levels into it

[strange compass]

Yesterday I found out that if you copy a Cerulean Bell chosen card with Death, that card will also be forced selected.

[calm furnace]

yeah because retriggers are so good to win gold stake

[flat tiger]

if you are fixing for 4oak you can do multiple 4oak hands

[strange compass]

I wonder if you can do something with this?

[calm furnace]

and if you hang that card you get a free hand

[lime remnant]

it actually is tho?

[strange compass]

FH is sooooo mid

[gentle basalt]

no

[strange compass]

Why would you play that when you can pivot to flush house

[calm furnace]

32 * 4 is bigger than 2k

[strange compass]

Makes sense

[lime remnant]

a

[calm furnace]

ah yeah the infamous idol, trib builds that win gold stake

[lime remnant]

who is talm bout some idol and trip 😂

[gentle basalt]

ancient could be worth retriggering, if wild cards were not as they are currently

[lime remnant]

something more common bro

gold tickets

[calm furnace]

hopefully next update makes wild cards good

[gentle basalt]

retriggering golden ticket definitely what i do every run

[tight pike]

Yep thanks game

[lime remnant]

yes its super econ am i rite 🥹

[tight pike]

Really need a flower pot at this point

[flat tiger]

the poop pot

[calm furnace]

baseball value

[green apex]

flowerpot being good

[stone shell]

aces have fibonacci which is actually really nice

sure you can do 2s and 3s for fib + hack but i think aces have a spot thanks to grim

[fringe nebula]

flower pot gaming

hell yeah

[flat tiger]

you also want higher cards before the build go online

[vale shale]

I continued the run

And got canio

I wasn't surprised I got it to 10x before dying

[lime remnant]

salt on injury

[fringe nebula]

ankh on family

[lime remnant]

i know

[flat tiger]

you just DOUBLED THE FAMILY

[fringe nebula]

-1 hand size hurts for 4oak tho

[flat tiger]

not if you only have aces

[fringe nebula]

nope

[gentle basalt]

You build into what you find, not hope a specific uncommon joker shows up

[lime remnant]

yes so now idk if i want grim or oujia

[flat tiger]

MORE ACES

[fringe nebula]

ouija is actually bad for 4oak

[lime remnant]

i literally couldnt find a 4oak once despite having 10 aces in the deck

[gentle basalt]

^

The strength of 4 of a kind is in the planet levels

[lime remnant]

so now oujia or grim 🤔

[gentle basalt]

And you cannot hold blue seals with oujia easily

[fringe nebula]

grim

[gentle basalt]

(Which is also why grim is much worse than cryptid, since you can just build into your blue /purple seal rank)

[lime remnant]

just for that now im going to play super unoptimally and use oujia instead

screw this run

[gentle basalt]

Why do you keep asking for suggestions

[lime remnant]

bah its j

it wasnt a question originally

[fringe nebula]

just for that alone I will never to respond whenever you ask something

[lime remnant]

no please 🥺

[flat tiger]

i have done double ouija with 4oak mroe then once

[flat tiger]

clearly you reset

[lime remnant]

wouldnt square be better here

[fringe nebula]

nah, skipping for red card value is the play

[fringe nebula]

because chips are harder to find?

and red card doesn't give immedate mult in earlygame

[flat tiger]

red card still get +3 if you skip the pack it is in, you just never know, and you cant disproof it

[lime remnant]

yeah

"pairless adventure" then shop 1 buffon gives the most pair build looking joker ever

[turbid nova]

And I found fibonacci but it was perishable as well

I found the family but it was perishable 🥀

[lime remnant]

kitty

cute

[civic phoenix]

yall think this is gonna be a triboulet

[fringe nebula]

it will be canio

[flat tiger]

canio is the best roll here, for me

since i am not the one doing the run

[civic phoenix]

if it is then his ass was late for dinner ❌

[calm furnace]

i discard the 4

that i wanted to play

for 4oak

[turbid nova]

Yorick my goat

[lime remnant]

i skipped kitty and this mf lucky card gave me 60 bucks with chad

ok dude

[flat tiger]

the double lucky card trigger still only give cat one stack

[lean agate]

Day 2 of trying my second C++

the dream Royal Flush run

[strong pier]

Bram poker down
Used the spectral card that turns a bunch of cards into the same rank earlier into the run and played off of that

[civic phoenix]

it was The Chicot

thankfully i ended up getting my antimatter and got idol in the end

[lean agate]

holy cloud 9 synergy

[lime remnant]

yo ts kinda tuff

2 sticker we win these

[pale wolf]

2 stickers 🦓

idols a good one to get

[lime remnant]

yes

it hit ace diamonds too

was hoping for glass but idol being out of the way is also good

[spark kernel]

Hello foil invisible joker

[patent sail]

im tempted

[strong pier]

If only i had it that run

I've done fragile as well by skipping every blind i could

Baseball card is great to get in this challenge

Has anyone tried to mod the game and play all the challenges on gold stake?

[patent sail]

i think im gonna win in the most backwards way possible rn

i brainstormed burglar and am just slowly chipping away at this boss lmao

yup it died

I WIN

C+ DONE HELL YEA

[waxen fable]

chip chud

[tight pike]

Ok nebula deck isn't THAT bad but I end up never taking advantage of the voucher start

[waxen fable]

good job on cplus

[waxen fable]

its just boring

[patent sail]

yuppp i was gonna clear entire plasma with just chips

[waxen fable]

also cant hold tarots and planets to block gen

[patent sail]

do i think i need to get one more win to get my c+ achivement, right?

[unreal topaz]

yup

any stake, any deck

[patent sail]

i sure hope it fucking works with my steammodded unlike the challenges one

otherwise im gonna commit the unspeakable

i somehow got every other achievement with steammodded just fine, but the challenges one didnt work

[spark kernel]

I finally beat painted orange stake

[patent sail]

i think its only fitting if i do it on red deck white stake

[strange compass]

Insane flush house run and stickers to finish off Magic Deck stakes

[lean agate]

Yea that's what I did as well lol

[strange compass]

Also I just realised flush house is worse than flush five?

Making flush houses is so much more difficult

[patent sail]

C+ ACH WORKED YAYYYYYY

[red briar]

gg

[patent sail]

its half over

[red briar]

is C+ just getting a win with every joker

and C++ is a gsw with every joker

[patent sail]

gold stake on every deck

[red briar]

ooooh i see

[patent sail]

c++ is gold sticker on every joker

[red briar]

oh wait

i have c+?

i have a gsw on every deck

[patent sail]

i guess so

[red briar]

on wahalli's life i didnt even realise

[patent sail]

dont look at my stats

only most played hand isnt broken

[red briar]

highest ante 5'

but HOOOLY pairslop bro

[patent sail]

yeahhhh those have been frozen like forever

probably some steammodded issue

[patent sail]

hey i also play straights

[red briar]

have you tried playing big hands yet

it's great

[patent sail]

2nd most used planet is saturn

[red briar]

can i see your card stats =w=

[patent sail]

i love straights like i just said

[patent sail]

in this household we LOVE square

[red briar]

there is an unsettling lack of econ here

[patent sail]

mail is right there

[red briar]

only mail?

[patent sail]

but yeah my econ usually doesnt exist idk

[red briar]

i always greed

even on gold stake

[patent sail]

im an absolute brokemaxxer icl

[red briar]

luckmaxxer

[patent sail]

most used tarots hermit + temperance tho 😭😭😭

[red briar]

who needs rerolls when you get everything you need in the base shop

[patent sail]

i guess so

im proud of the top 4, dont look at that 5th one

[red briar]

i have 3oak 4oak and 5oak in my top 5 lol

[patent sail]

straights my beloved tbh

[red briar]

i'm surprised you don't have runner in your top cards

considering your love for straights

[patent sail]

i usually see him like ante 7 😭😭😭

game does NOT want me to give him when its appropriate

[red briar]

it does suck when you get a scaling joker later on

[patent sail]

and straights have rapid scaling anyway so like

its fine i guess

[red briar]

i find scaling jokers on gold stake easier than white stake

because even with decent scoring i can use up all my hands

[patent sail]

i honestly disregard farming the scaling on the jonklers unless i really need that to survive, which is

probably very very dumb and is a massive skill issue

but im way too impatient for that 🐎🔥

[brittle temple]

Negative rare

[patent sail]

VAGA TOO

gem alert

[red briar]

vagabond is a gem

vagabond is meant to slime your econ out but it does quite the opposite

[patent sail]

absolute gem alert right there twin

[red briar]

god the negative design on vaga looks ugly though

[patent sail]

does it?

i dont mind it

[red briar]

i don't like it at all lol .w.

[patent sail]

the shiny shader on negatives makes even the most horrible palettes look somewhat good

what i dont like is holographic

it makes some jokers look muddy idk

[brittle temple]

Thanks vegabons

[patent sail]

okay okay but

opinion on negative flower pot

[brittle temple]

Real

[patent sail]

THE VOUCHER

insane

man i dont even remember what was my last time seeing antimatter

[zenith thunder]

so close...

if i had gotten verdant leaf i wouldve won

[patent sail]

+510 runner is wild

yeah rip 😭😭😭😭

im so lucky to not see vessel a single time on plasma

[brittle temple]

3rd brainstorm?

[zenith thunder]

2nd neg vaga

[patent sail]

bye tdl i guess

[brittle temple]

If only...

[patent sail]

invis removes negative

[zenith thunder]

i keep forgetting that copy effects remove neg

[brittle temple]

Nah i like the 32-44 dollars per round

[patent sail]

in a perfect world they wouldnt

[tranquil cedar]

wyd in this situation

[patent sail]

does it hit a good hand that frequently

[brittle temple]

Skippidy skip

[zenith thunder]

play small skip big

[patent sail]

hot take

im taking both

its dumb but like im also dumb

[tranquil cedar]

rip died of greed

(me tbh)

[patent sail]

okay but what if you dont 🗣🗣🗣🔥

[tranquil cedar]

we gamble every time hell yeah

[patent sail]

hell yea

[brittle temple]

Holy gold ticket is so op

Yummy 80 dollars

[tranquil cedar]

never punished

[spark kernel]

Son 😭😭😭😭😭

[tranquil cedar]

you the buffoon vro 🥹

[frozen tendon]

rental bean isn’t the worst

[spark kernel]

I did the most logical thing and restarted the run

There is actually no way this happenned

[brittle temple]

Never punished

[red briar]

i don't use flower pot

[lean agate]

Just score flush twice and GG you get 50 dollers right off the bat

True

[patent sail]

nor do i because the only synergy it has is with sell button

but it looks lowk pretty when negative

[iron vigil]

Counts as econ

[frozen tendon]

what skips are we taking 😭

[patent sail]

baseball card 🔥

[red briar]

3 brainstorms?

[brittle temple]

Ankh and invis

[spark kernel]

Holograph and polychrome

[patent sail]

green goblin mask

[red briar]

the curse of roffle will follow you wherever you go

[brittle temple]

Sadly not blueprint but beggers cant be choosers

[zenith thunder]

the game has asked me to do another runner run

[red briar]

how many cryptids are required for naneinf again?

isnt it like 81

[tranquil cedar]

I gambled, I won, I died ante 4

[red briar]

i finally did it bro

naneinf ghost deck ❤️

[shell dagger]

depends on your jokers

and base hand size

[zenith thunder]

is it too late to pivot?

[pale wolf]

like 10 inch thumb tip to pinky tip

[shell dagger]

that’s pretty big

[pale wolf]

if i really stretch it

[molten thicket]

pivot to what

[pale wolf]

so probably only like 40 cryptids

[rain temple]

I love delayed gratification

[pale wolf]

y

[brittle temple]

Right next to eachother

[rain temple]

average in general and can be more useful with vouchers jokers and different decks

[pale wolf]

I would argue the first point

what econ is worse than delgrat

[rain temple]

satellite

[pale wolf]

quite debatable

if you compare satellite to delayed gratification, satellite has a higher peak income and 10-15-more extra cards of deck digging

delayed gratification has more early game usage though

[rain temple]

I think it isnt worth an investment

buying planet cards for the satellite

only for it to become average

on mid to late game

grat is a conditional golden joker which I dont like but

it has some niche uses

[pale wolf]

its very much worth the investment for satellite

[rain temple]

and blue stake rework so

[pale wolf]

but only if you already have it which is the issue

[zenith thunder]

nat neg photo saved the run gg

[pale wolf]

most of the time you're already buying every pack, and oftentimes taking random planets is okay if there's already a consumable in slots that you want to use during the blind (so that putting a random planet in your fool value isn't an issue)

[rain temple]

only reason for my grat approval is that the player having to use their discards sparingly after the blue stake makes grats condition obsolete

[pale wolf]

I wouldn't call it obsolete, but it's definitely overlooked when compared to Golden Joker

[tacit oasis]

To a different game

[spark kernel]

I finally beat gold stake painted trib is op

[cloud sinew]

I definitely think most people heavily underrate satellite

I dont think its great, but it definitely isnt a bad joker either

[pale wolf]

im pretty sure satellite is still worse than golden so i think its 2nd worst econ but i consider it a step above delgrat

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[spark kernel]

Whats harder plasma or black gold stake

[pale wolf]

depends

probably black

[cloud sinew]

more people complain about satellite than delgrat around here for sure

[cloud sinew]

black

[rain temple]

after completionist+ I figured that grat is above average, its just a personal opinion for me

[cloud sinew]

for econ jokers or for jokers in general

[rain temple]

and I think there is no truly awful econs in this game

[patent sail]

is it better to drag along DNA or Showman for stickering purposes? i think id want showman stickered sooner

[rain temple]

I meant below

[shell dagger]

showman

[cloud sinew]

Showman

[pale wolf]

delgrat is actively harmful to take unless you have no reason to use your discards so like

[patent sail]

hell yea

[shell dagger]

dna can actually be useful in most runs

can’t say the same for showman

[pale wolf]

In that you might play as if you are trying not to use your discards, play sub-optimally because of that, and lose

[patent sail]

first time having him in my build lets see if he will ever do anything at all

[brave goblet]

I love bloodstone!!!

[cloud sinew]

i treat delgrat the same as i treat green joker tbh

[stone shell]

lucky cat run and i still couldnt find tribe 🥲

[brave goblet]

Oops came from a judgment

[pale wolf]

never ever discard 😎 😎 😎

nailed it

[brave goblet]

Imagine if green joker reset to 0 if you discarded

[eager lance]

wow this standard pack is so interesting!

[stone shell]

if anyone is curious cat ended at 9.75x mult

[rain temple]

green joker is my most played joker, maybe thats why I love grat irrationally

[pale wolf]

imagine if Ride the bus only decremented by 1 if you scored a face card

[patent sail]

this decision is so hard.....

[cloud sinew]

it would honestly still be fine, but itd probably be the worst of the 3 (bus/green/nova)

[eager lance]

lol

[rain temple]

I dont like nova

[pale wolf]

not even a showman!!!

[patent sail]

still my favorite picture of all time

[stone shell]

man you manifested bus as soon as i started another run

[rain temple]

3 high priestess tarot pack still cracks me

[eager lance]

yep

[brave goblet]

Actually insane

[eager lance]

stone is an enhancement

[rustic haven]

meow

[patent sail]

i forgot bus isnt green joker and i can actually discard

[eager lance]

middle one is extra spicy

[patent sail]

he brought in his gay cousin

[rustic haven]

ball

balls?

[stone shell]

man i almost crashed my bus by playing a queen in my flush

[patent sail]

balls!

[patent sail]

honestly insane how you got the balls to post that

joke by akitsumaki

[patent sail]

quit fooling around

[green apex]

almost there gl

[rain temple]

I remember picking wraith

during a bootstrap run

I wanna play inscryption so bad

[rustic haven]

yellow deck moments

surely immolate in spectral

now why the hell

would i open a spectral

[zenith thunder]

immolate trance

[rustic haven]

before grabbing a

[zenith thunder]

trust

[rustic haven]

joker

ankh...

and i have no jokers

😭

[zenith thunder]

hex ankh

[rustic haven]

its okay trib right around the corner surely

[fringe nebula]

I would take vagabond first, and then open spec-WHY

[green apex]

it will be

keep waiting

and dont die too soon!

[rustic haven]

i know man...

[zenith thunder]

soul can appear in spectral correct?

[rustic haven]

its 8:39am and im at work on 2 hours of sleep

sush

shush

[rain temple]

half joker-canio run

[green apex]

yeah

[green apex]

hey thats amazing

who needs sleep anyways..

[rustic haven]

😭

my fat ass

[brittle temple]

Sixth sense my GOAT

[pale wolf]

im confused

[patent sail]

half carry

[fringe nebula]

They opened mega spectral before taking vagabond

[pale wolf]

oh huge throw

[rustic haven]

chat lowkey

[pale wolf]

you always open spectrals last bc of wraith

[rustic haven]

what if i spite roffle and take the ouija

[pale wolf]

and max impact immolate

[rustic haven]

zebra

u think i dont know this

😭

im so tired

[pale wolf]

you have baron in your name

[rustic haven]

gimme a break

[zenith thunder]

talisman skip ig

ectoplasm isnt worth on gold

[rustic haven]

read harder

hes a stalker

[rustic haven]

yur i alr took it but the ouija was funny

if it was white stake

i wouldve

ngl

for the funny

[green apex]

shoulda done it even though you were on gold stake

who doesnt love ouija!

[storm dome]

will she work when i'm trying to do red seal steel king run or no

[pale wolf]

#modd

[storm dome]

oh alr

[pale wolf]

wtf discord

#⚙・modding-general

[green apex]

discord at its peak

[rustic haven]

left or right

someone else choose

[rain temple]

my 8 8's

[pale wolf]

judging by the words I'm reading on the screen this would instantly end endless runs based on steel

[rustic haven]

8 ball value

[pale wolf]

lol

oh wait i misread it

it would be okay

[rustic haven]

so is this a hc or flush five build?

😭

seems ass to me

[patent sail]

meow

[rustic haven]

lowkey

mrow

[pale wolf]

why is the fairy type pokemon interacting positively with steel tho

[storm dome]

ummmm, something!

[rustic haven]

oh dang

[pale wolf]

weird flavor

[rustic haven]

oh wow

ok someone pick 1 or 2

[patent sail]

1

[zenith thunder]

if only the decision was easy

[rustic haven]

not even close

[terse vale]

it is

[rustic haven]

it was buns

[terse vale]

sock

[rustic haven]

but but ut but but but

brainstorm!!!!!!

[zenith thunder]

i took sock cus i aura deja vu a king from sixth sense

[rustic haven]

NOOOO IMM TOO BROKE

[zenith thunder]

hopefully i dont regret it

[rustic haven]

[pale wolf]

surely you've had enough tarots already 🦓

[rustic haven]

no.

only 25

[pale wolf]

unless you got hella scoring in enhancements id consider swapping tbh

[gleaming bone]

what to sell for dusk?

[calm furnace]

who needs more than 2 jokers?

[shell dagger]

nothing, although juggler is better than sock

[gleaming bone]

why?

[shell dagger]

bc your score comes from kings held in hand, not played cards

[gleaming bone]

oh yeaaa

smort

[shell dagger]

you only have 6 clubs

[pale wolf]

yeaaa kill the sock

[shell dagger]

oh that’s not gluttonous

[hearty tusk]

What kinda bullshit are we on today on this channel, chat

[shell dagger]

poly gluttonous kinda looks like poly greedy hmm

[rustic haven]

i will when i get a damn money proc on a lucky card

[gleaming bone]

okay im killing the sock

[pale wolf]

simply dies to not having scoring

[rustic haven]

youd think my flush five red seal luckys would show up and i get one hit

[rustic haven]

i have red seal steel and planet levels

[pale wolf]

it was round 5

[hearty tusk]

Why arent you winning

[pale wolf]

at that time

[rustic haven]

its round 9 now

and it wasnt 25

now it probably is

[pale wolf]

🦓

[gleaming bone]

wait hol on shouldnt i kill greedy joker instead of sock?

[pale wolf]

sorry for believing you then

[rustic haven]

but i saw a fortune the round before that and it was 15

[rustic haven]

sorry for lying

idk

[shell dagger]

greedy joker is still something without sock, sock is nothing without greedy joker (or other enhancements)

[gleaming bone]

so i kill sock and take juggler you say?

[pale wolf]

the poly on greedy is worth more than sock without a glass face or somen

[gleaming bone]

oki doki

[stone shell]

i am never calling steel joker bad ever again

[pale wolf]

steel is fun

[stone shell]

managed to get +1.4 mult in a single tarot pack skip (special thanks to anaglyph deck)

not much but it pushed the build over the edge

[pale wolf]

every time i post this i wonder why i killed square

[gleaming bone]

okay well now what

[patent sail]

why would you ever call him bad

[lime remnant]

prolly being forgetful

[patent sail]

where is he 😭

[gleaming bone]

do i take him??

[stone shell]

+0.2x for an enhancement seems abysmal to me on paper okay

[robust lance]

hes invisible

[patent sail]

????

[patent sail]

who is invisible

theres no one there

[robust lance]

you asked "where is he" and i said where he is

asking "where is he" implies a figure is naturally there

[gleaming bone]

but what do i do

do i take him

[patent sail]

and i also replied with a joke

[robust lance]

DOH!!!

[patent sail]

instead of uh

gay jonkler

the greedy

yeah instead of greedy

what is he even doing there

[gleaming bone]

mkay

[lime remnant]

well you get the 0.2x alongside with steels

[patent sail]

ikr

[lime remnant]

but like

[patent sail]

steel joker is great

i love him

[lime remnant]

steel kinda mid for pair build

[patent sail]

unfortunately dont see him much

[lime remnant]

unless raised fist or stuff

[patent sail]

xmult is xmult

[lime remnant]

stm

[patent sail]

as a joker hes pretty good

[lime remnant]

might be a skill esu but i dont usually get him to decent numbers

its usually stuck at under 2x

if its above 2x then im already winning with the steel card itself

[patent sail]

well thats still unconditional xmult

[stone shell]

steel joker is probably weak because steels themselves are strong :P

[echo sphinx]

if steel si strong why steel joker weak

[patent sail]

if x0.2 per steel enhancement is weak what is strong then

[lime remnant]

prolly because um

steel is pretty rare?

[patent sail]

is it?

[lime remnant]

idk

[echo sphinx]

idk

[lime remnant]

theres 20 tarot right

[echo sphinx]

its abt as rare as glass i guess

[lime remnant]

like igb companion

[stone shell]

22 but we got emperor and fool

[patent sail]

idunno i like steel jonkler hes cool

[unreal topaz]

more so not prioritized, and in general its hard to get tarot cards in your average run

you get one tarot card every 4 shop rerolls

[lime remnant]

ah right

[unreal topaz]

which is not great

[lime remnant]

something like const or vamp scales faster

[stone shell]

steel joker is just hard to get good value from without a tarot gen build

[unreal topaz]

yeah, vamp ofc bc you have way more options, steel joker has the advantage of being retroactive

also if i have like 7 steel cards thats prob my xmult source

ngl

[lime remnant]

yeah thats what i was talking about

if i already have a lot of steel do i actually need steel joker to win

prolly not

[unreal topaz]

steel joker can still be good enough at 1.8x or whatever

[lime remnant]

but its a nice bonus

we take those

[patent sail]

we love steel jonkler here idc

🐈🔥

[stone shell]

steel joker kinda just exists in this limbo where its best use is at around 2x

[lime remnant]

wait how about glass

glass jonkelr

[patent sail]

appears never

[unreal topaz]

glass joker is great

[stone shell]

any less you can get a better xmult but anymore why not just use steels themselves

[lime remnant]

never got it to work

never appeared

[stone shell]

glass joker is strong when you get it online

[unreal topaz]

its a discount canio

[patent sail]

he is great but all glass becomes unbreakable as soon as i get him

[stone shell]

comparable scaling to canio

[lime remnant]

i heard you can use hang man on glass to scale the joker

[unreal topaz]

yup

[lime remnant]

ok thats cool

[stone shell]

as long as glass breaks by any means

[unreal topaz]

i believe trading card also works

[stone shell]

i forget if immolate destroying glass cards still counts for glass joker or not

[unreal topaz]

technically

so trading card gets another w

[lime remnant]

it works but i dont really trust it to appear on shop

[unreal topaz]

ofc

i just like trading card

[unreal topaz]

i know it counts for canio

[pale wolf]

pair is less effective than high card for steel fixed decks because the mult scaling is the scale, but you dont need to draw matching ranks/eat into steels to play the pair

[stone shell]

i remember a bug regarding immolate destruction and a specific scaling joker but i might be hallucinating

[pale wolf]

spectral cards don't scale glass Joker

[stone shell]

unplayable smh

[unreal topaz]

i think it was like familiar or smth

[stone shell]

glass joker being held back by bugs

[calm furnace]

fr

[unreal topaz]

not immolate

[calm furnace]

all spectrals

[pale wolf]

It's all spectral cards

[unreal topaz]

well immolate works

im guessing the others dont

or is glass joker different

from canio

[pale wolf]

prove it

[calm furnace]

no spectral works with glass

[pale wolf]

i used to think canio had similar issues but it doesnt

[calm furnace]

no canio is free from this buy

[ancient gyro]

i assure you glassy doesn't know about any spectrolls

[unreal topaz]

okay so glass joker is different

fair enough

[calm furnace]

its a glass joker only bug

canio doesnt have this

[unreal topaz]

localthuuuuuunk

[pale wolf]

mind you, because of lilo 🦓

[calm furnace]

i had an incantation destroy my only face card on abandoned deck and it scaled my canio who i was planning to sell.

i will forever cherish this memory

[unreal topaz]

so im hallucinating

[stone shell]

thunk knows that glass joker is too strong for the balatroverse so he had to hire bugs to keep him in check

[unreal topaz]

ig

[stone shell]

what am is aying

[patent sail]

where are my tarots

[unreal topaz]

1 in 2

you missed

[calm furnace]

correct me if im wrong, merry andy on abandoned allows me to see my entire deck right?

[ancient gyro]

im going to say random thought out facts that aren't true just to blame it on lilo

[pale wolf]

no i tracked that one down to lilo

but i endorse

[unreal topaz]

yep

[stone shell]

41 cards if my mental math is correct so yes

[unreal topaz]

3 throwaways and 5 discards is 8 "discards"

5 cards each

[pale wolf]

how many cards are on abandoned

[versed sable]

40

[stone shell]

40

[pale wolf]

and is that all the time

[unreal topaz]

47, you start with 7 in the hand

and 5 more per throwaway hand

[pale wolf]

6

[unreal topaz]

5 more per discard

[ancient gyro]

from 33 to 46 yes

[pale wolf]

wait

[stone shell]

i messed up somewhere wait

[patent sail]

whuh??

[hazy merlin]

i am new to balatro , any youtube video suggestion ??

[calm furnace]

now i need to create my custom deck, abandoned painted

[pale wolf]

merry andy -1 hand size

[patent sail]

i got a great one actually

[stone shell]

depends on what you're looking for :P

[ancient gyro]

came from a judgment

[pale wolf]

the youtube channel balatro university is run by the best balatro player, drspectred

[hazy merlin]

ok, i will check

[patent sail]

entire balatro 101 playlist ✅✅✅

[versed sable]

start with 40 cards
7/8 drawn to hand = 33/34 in deck
at 5 cards per discard you need 7 discards to see every card

[stone shell]

if balatro 101 is so good why not make balatro 102

[patent sail]

lazy

[pale wolf]

because 101 isn't finished yet

lol

[ancient gyro]

on hiatus

[hazy merlin]

101 playlsts, lol i think it takes lot of time

[patent sail]

thats

one playlist

[ancient gyro]

balatro 110 will come with next update

[patent sail]

[patent sail]

5 videos

[lime remnant]

where is balatro 100

[ancient gyro]

outdated

[stone shell]

i forget but people think thunks adding more jokers in the next update right

[hazy merlin]

😆 bro i want just a intro , how to play video

[unreal topaz]

and with 4 hands and 5 discards you effectively have 8 discards

[ancient gyro]

at least 2

[cloud sinew]

3/15 GSG so far

[stone shell]

surely he adds like, at least 25

[patent sail]

i think theres an in-game tutorial??

but balatro univeristy has a short video on a how to make an average build for beginners

[stone shell]

that sounds like alot now that i think about it

[cloud sinew]

we only know that 2 will be added, anything more than that is speculative

[ancient gyro]

in intervals of 15 would be cleaner assuming he keeps current joker collection ui

[stone shell]

idk i just dont see thunk leaving us at 152 jokers

[lime remnant]

might be too much idk

[unreal topaz]

https://youtu.be/atVF4VLHks4?si=bvPueSm-JLG4ju6A this is just a lil outdated, but it hammers in the fundamentals

[hazy merlin]

yeah its bit confusing , i will check the channel , thanks bro

[ancient gyro]

balatro university balatro 101 playlist

[patent sail]

one of them is a horse

source: arcane knowledge

[ancient gyro]

oh the misery

[patent sail]

yea we mentioned that

[cloud sinew]

dont worry about being confused btw! we all had no clue when we started.

[cloud sinew]

wii?????

[ancient gyro]

directed to ashy

[stone shell]

i had some sort of idea on how to balatro because i decided to study the game through youtuber playthroughs

[ancient gyro]

i studied through aliensrock

[fringe nebula]

good for you

when I was a new player, I was misled by roffle's tier list

[stone shell]

never trust those damned streamers/j

[terse vale]

guhhhh aliensrock

[versed sable]

[ancient gyro]

5 of a 5

[versed sable]

5 of a flush, my favorite hand

[fringe nebula]

5 of a kind
flush 5

[calm furnace]

is this the greatest lineup of all time?

[stone shell]

i remember when i first downloaded balatro i wanted to be ✨ special ✨ by deliberately avoiding face cards to avoid getting planted

[long zodiac]

Wait does the madness ability also stoke the campfire?

[calm furnace]

stoke?

[cloud sinew]

its so over

[stone shell]

madness destroys but campfire only counts selling so i would think no

[versed sable]

I still watch their peglin videos and i've rematched their witness playthrough a couple times but that's about all i watch from them anymore
the balatro is just too questionable and slow to be watchable lmao

[ancient gyro]

only to gradually handicap your econ options

[cloud sinew]

No

[echo sphinx]

die lol

[long zodiac]

Alr that’s what I thought

[stone shell]

farewell square joker

[ancient gyro]

stroke the campfire

[calm furnace]

stroke the vampire?

[echo sphinx]

there's always the pairslop option

[cloud sinew]

it means to add fuel to something

[echo sphinx]

imagine being Flush player

pairslop, the most bullshit thing to exist

win with t h r e e jokers

[stone shell]

i hate pairslop but it only exists because of how majority of jokers were designed

im pretty sure its not majority but whatever

[calm furnace]

pairslop is also a product of boss design

most bosses do nothing against pairs

but kill and punish big hands

[stone shell]

yeah we need more anti spam bosses

[echo sphinx]

and the ones that do tend to just be difficult in general

[cloud sinew]

Holy chips scaling what the fuck

[echo sphinx]

plasma looking lineup

[cloud sinew]

i think i stick with wee

[echo sphinx]

what is runner doing here lol

[stone shell]

wrong deck plasma is 2 left arrow hits away

[cloud sinew]

i got runner and square from riff this round

[ancient gyro]

and 13 wins away

[echo sphinx]

o

[cloud sinew]

and foil wee last shop

context clues smh

[stone shell]

what if im contextually clueless

[bleak bolt]

whats the most effective mime/baron ratio? 1:1?

[ancient gyro]

1:1 favoring baron, baron for red seal gold

[stone shell]

1:1 favoring baron with red seals

[rustic haven]

1:1 favoring baron

i just wanted to say it

ngl

[cloud sinew]

RIFF RAFF COUNTERS WATER, HUGE

[rustic haven]

😭

w drunkard

[cloud sinew]

W riff

W drunkard

[rustic haven]

blackboard is a common?

or am i

slow

[cloud sinew]

Yes

[rustic haven]

hey :(

[ancient gyro]

bb is slow

[rustic haven]

bb stinks

[cloud sinew]

blackboard is uncommon

[rustic haven]

seeing double better

[cloud sinew]

see2 is countered by debuffs, blackboard isnt

[stone shell]

seeing double doesnt work in checkered the joker sucks so much (im joking)

[rustic haven]

fair

[rustic haven]

erm akshually

[bleak bolt]

this thing is pretty fun

[rustic haven]

#⚙・modding-general

[stone shell]

if im adding clubs just to make a specific 2x joker work i think its time to hold r

[bleak bolt]

i thought that was about making mods not playing mods

[rustic haven]

its every about mods

aka

modding

general...

[stone shell]

one could say its for mods in general

[ancient gyro]

i didnt get the memo

[rustic haven]

the reason theres a vanilla and modded section

[rustic haven]

😭

i like seeing double though

obv not on checkered

but in general

its easy to play into

[terse dock]

You cannot kill me in a way that matters.

[rustic haven]

gun

[stone shell]

im mixing you with ketchup and dipping hotdogs into the mixture

[rustic haven]

Muchup

Ketchstard

looks

german

ngl

like sauerkraut

sauerkraut slept on, W food

[echo sphinx]

i have no idea how this run is alive

[rustic haven]

cuz ancient the giat

goat

and so is csharp

[echo sphinx]

like

[patent sail]

anyone knows any mods that can help track which jokers i have gold sticker on and which i dont? im too lazy to check it manually

[rustic haven]

i would ask the modders in general or check the wiki

[echo sphinx]

what is this bro

[rustic haven]

bc i have no clue

[calm furnace]

i fucked up heavy by picking red card here should have kept an open slot for campfire

[patent sail]

alright cool thanks

[calm furnace]

i rushed into RC because i saw its eternal

[echo sphinx]

the mult is all hitting lv2 flush

[rustic haven]

u can also search like key tags on the wiki

[calm furnace]

i found eternal trio the ante after ❤️‍🩹

[rustic haven]

but idk if thatd be a thing

[ancient gyro]

manifesting delsym 24 hour relief for upcoming needler

[echo sphinx]

yeah nah this shi ain happenin

[calm furnace]

is that ancient joker?

[echo sphinx]

ye

it was feeding on lv1 cuz idk lol

yall could beat this seed without thinkin

[versed sable]

skill based game ig

[calm furnace]

wait you had chad and ancient and still didnt play flushes? 😭

[echo sphinx]

i played flushes

i just died lol

lv2 flush is not it

[calm furnace]

oh

yeah you need at least 10 levels in jupiter for ancient to start scoring

[fringe nebula]

I'm kinda bored right now, so can someone give me a seed

[echo sphinx]

@fringe nebula have this ancient joker run

[fringe nebula]

iw4gh4pt

[fringe nebula]

which deck again

oh blue

ok

[versed sable]

genuinely the easiest gold stake run of all time

[calm furnace]

merry and yorick is just 😭

[versed sable]

and runner and red card and a couple blue seals
lmao

[calm furnace]

x21 mult