🕹・game-discussion

[fringe nebula]

no

[dry nimbus]

i love mogging verdant leaf by winning without selling

[split condor]

fym no

[patent sail]

ikr

[split condor]

actually you're right

[fringe nebula]

if all of your score comes from jokers, you don't need to sell at all

[brittle ocean]

Get two ectos and something magical will happen

[patent sail]

nothing boss 90% of the time

[split condor]

mb

[dry nimbus]

b-b-b-but my photochud

[simple escarp]

?

[echo sphinx]

yayy

runner pretty weak here ngl

[noble mango]

chicot isn't even nessecary

[patent sail]

selling luchador on verdant leaf is where its at

[dry nimbus]

luchador double counters

🥹

you get it

[patent sail]

shared braincells

[noble mango]

me selling my negative diet cola on verdant leaf

[dry nimbus]

🥹🥹🥹

[patent sail]

you know, this is pretty funny because i did exactly that once

[dry nimbus]

ive done it before ngl

the luchador

im not cool enough to get a negative diet cola

[brittle ocean]

Auto loss

[noble mango]

my stupid ass selling luchador on crine heart when it debufed

[simple escarp]

U cannot play with 1 card in hand ?

[brittle ocean]

Second ecto gives -2 hand size

[simple escarp]

Oh

[patent sail]

yeah which is very funny

[dry nimbus]

0 hand size takes you out to the back alley and shoots you in the head

[noble mango]

each ecto costs more than the last one

[patent sail]

ante 3 obbylicks what we think

[dry nimbus]

i used to be an obelisk hater

[patent sail]

jk im not even asking yall im taking that

[noble mango]

blorbeliks 👍

[simple escarp]

I'm still one

[patent sail]

well stop

[dry nimbus]

whats yalls favorite synergys

i loooove delayed grat and buglar

[patent sail]

burglar + banner

I SWEAR TO GOD

[dry nimbus]

😭😭😭

[simple escarp]

Four fingers + smeared + shortcut (the random bullshit build)

[noble mango]

genuine rule of the thumb : any scaling joker (that isn't restroactive like that one)
is a take on ante 4 or less

[brittle ocean]

Photochad or baron mime (the two overused answers)

[patent sail]

you knoe what makes it even funnier

i literally did that once

and fuckimg died

[dry nimbus]

back when i was still new i was like wait i canf use my discards so ill get free moneh from delayed grat!!!

[noble mango]

|| 5 || || thousand|| || dices||

[dry nimbus]

and free hands!

i wish it worked that way..

[patent sail]

my favorite synergy is dice + glass

[dry nimbus]

i cant lie i love me some dice

[noble mango]

jk
i never got that much

6 dices is already iinsane

[simple escarp]

Main menu synergy

[noble mango]

6 oops all 6s

[patent sail]

flower pot + sell button

[simple escarp]

Facts

[noble mango]

chicot + plant

[dry nimbus]

eternal + egg

i love egg so much

[simple escarp]

500 dice + cavendish

[noble mango]

das actually fire

🏴‍☠️

[patent sail]

you dont even need 500

[simple escarp]

Ik

[noble mango]

actually you don't need it

[patent sail]

only what, 11? or 12

[dry nimbus]

does rental egg still gain value

[simple escarp]

I was too lazy to calculate

[dry nimbus]

cewl

[brittle ocean]

10

[vale shale]

Helo gamers. 1 take gold stake run any deck. Which deck are we thinking bout.

[patent sail]

forgot my powers of 2

[patent sail]

green

[brittle ocean]

Black

[noble mango]

aye matey
ye mate it does get value even tho it eats up ye dabloons

[vale shale]

No black this time !

[patent sail]

HA im first

[brittle ocean]

Hmmph

[dry nimbus]

mighty fine scallywag

[noble mango]

geen

[vale shale]

Be faster and choose black agane whoever

[noble mango]

almost thought ye were one of those stinky landlubbers

[vale shale]

There's like 80% of the people here who wants me to play black

[dry nimbus]

nay matey, i love me eating some dirt though

[noble mango]

there be egg

[patent sail]

rental on egg turns it into a piggybank

[simple escarp]

We're sadistic here

[noble mango]

arr that's mighty fine lad

-# why are we pirates now

[patent sail]

SQUAREEEEEEEEEEEE mmmfghh

[dry nimbus]

surely this next arcana has the temperance i need

[patent sail]

sorry i multed

[noble mango]

at least luchador can't be eternal

right?

[dry nimbus]

night be fair, nay never young

prob can

idk

[simple escarp]

Btw been wondering smth, does ouija cost more the more u use it too ?

[dry nimbus]

id assume

[noble mango]

never used it anyway

[patent sail]

literally ehy does it have a downside this huge

[patent sail]

same question goes to you, hex

[dry nimbus]

i wish i could rip ouijas like i rip the suit change ones

[noble mango]

wdym hex is ass

the ass spectral is weegee

[simple escarp]

Cuz, I mean, changing 8 cards to a random rank can be a huge jumpstart

[patent sail]

i never said that 😭

it just got a huge fucking downside for what, only 1.5x

[dry nimbus]

i love sigil

[noble mango]

oops ayou got 8 2s

[dry nimbus]

never anything wrong with sigil

[patent sail]

wee value

[simple escarp]

My body is a machine that turns Wrath into obelisk

[patent sail]

weegee + sigil into all 7s of diamonds

[noble mango]

my body is a machine that turns my -99999 dollar debt into vagabond and 0$

[dry nimbus]

credit card naneinf

[simple escarp]

9 cloud too

[noble mango]

gotta love wraight vagabond

[patent sail]

flower pot naneinf

[patent sail]

whats it gonna do about 7s

[echo sphinx]

win, win or win

[simple escarp]

I mean with 9s

[noble mango]

lietereally

jack
slightily cooler jack

[patent sail]

tough choice huh

[dry nimbus]

my body is a machine that turns 6 dollars with hermit in the shop into 6 dollars with no hermit in the shop

[simple escarp]

Never seen a fully upgraded card in a pack before

[frank grove]

🔥

[patent sail]

future fool value

[noble mango]

1 is big cash

1 is on the best suit
1 is wild

[frank grove]

triple trio three of a kind gaming

[dry nimbus]

buy it for 3 dollars and also end up at 6 dollars

[noble mango]

trio trio is craaazzzyy

[patent sail]

my body is a machine that turns black deck gold stake attempts into Game Over!

[cloud sinew]

i had a mega pack with 2x gold blue seals once, i hope i have a screenshot of it

[simple escarp]

Witnessing one of the three full house enjoyers in the community win

[patent sail]

here, win

[dry nimbus]

my body is a machine that uuhhh

turns a trib run into a baron run

[noble mango]

my body is a machine - gun

[frank grove]

i played 3oak, cause its a better hand than full house?

[patent sail]

erratic deck is full houses deck

[patent sail]

saying this as someone who just beat that deck

[simple escarp]

My body is a machine that turns 200$ into no luchador before plant

[brittle ocean]

Erratic deck is reroll till you have like 10 of a card and play quads deck

[noble mango]

challenge :

beat erratic deck using dices lucky cats and rng jokers

[dry nimbus]

i like my erratic deck with 12 kings, and if i donf get 12 kings, i reset.

[echo sphinx]

LETS GO

[noble mango]

i like my erratic deck with 52 10 of spades

[patent sail]

i have a better challenge

play one (1) run of green deck

[echo sphinx]

4.2 steel

[simple escarp]

Is it even possible ?

[echo sphinx]

that is ridiculous dna run

[patent sail]

theres a seed

[dry nimbus]

it can be glitched

yeah

[noble mango]

there's a glitched seed

[dry nimbus]

or you could like

[cloud sinew]

there are a bunch of seeds, but theyre caused by a bug

[simple escarp]

Peak

[dry nimbus]

land a (1/52)^52 chance

[frank grove]

which is impossible, there isnt that many seeds possible

[patent sail]

balatro pros dont want you to know this simple trick....

[dry nimbus]

thats whay they all say

[cloud sinew]

i'm fairly certain that no such seed exists that isn't caused by the bug that causes the all 10 of spades deck

[dry nimbus]

jusy use dice

[noble mango]

is there any erratic seed that's only hearts and spades

[pale wolf]

im 100% certain

[patent sail]

yes! its called checkered deck

[brittle ocean]

I bet I can find a checkered seed

[pale wolf]

https://blog.danlew.net/2025/11/03/balatros-least-erratic-decks/
this guy already did it

[dry nimbus]

i wondered for a second if it was possible to just have a normal deck out of erratic

[echo sphinx]

ok

[dry nimbus]

and then i realized

....(1/52)^52

[echo sphinx]

look at that

[dry nimbus]

eoah

[simple escarp]

Well

Not really

[brittle ocean]

Actually 52!/52^52 but close enough

Basically impossible

[echo sphinx]

ehh

[hearty tusk]

Thats booty (good)

[cloud sinew]

i might be stupid, holy shit

[echo sphinx]

52/52*51/52*50/52*...*1/52

[echo sphinx]

lol

it do be like that sometimes

[hearty tusk]

Maybe

[brittle ocean]

5 bucks if you win this run

[cloud sinew]

thank god i havent reset yet

[simple escarp]

Pareidolia gonna carry trust

[cloud sinew]

🫡

[dry nimbus]

true

[cloud sinew]

WAIT NO I DID RESET

[dry nimbus]

i hate statistic

[cloud sinew]

nevermind

[brittle ocean]

My 5 bucks is safe

[hearty tusk]

I hate autistic

[dry nimbus]

woah

im going to sleep

its 4 am

[cloud sinew]

why :(

[hearty tusk]

Because I am :(

[cloud sinew]

i love autistic

[hearty tusk]

4am? Where the hell do you live, Alaska?

[simple escarp]

Autism aint necessarily a problem

I am too

[hearty tusk]

Good night, dayum

[hearty tusk]

It isnt

[dry nimbus]

...california?

[simple escarp]

Gn

[cloud sinew]

win:

[hearty tusk]

I am being sarcastic

[hearty tusk]

I live in the other side of the world, dont mind me

[dry nimbus]

no thays fair

[brittle ocean]

5 bucks if you don’t win this run

Jk

[dry nimbus]

i couldnt tell you what time it is in new york

[cloud sinew]

probably saturday

[simple escarp]

Gonna get lunch, bye

[dry nimbus]

😭😭😭

[hearty tusk]

Bon appetite

[brittle ocean]

Just +3 no?

[cloud sinew]

everybody be having they birthday this year

[dry nimbus]

who knows

i sure dont

[frank grove]

ny is -5 utc iirc

[simple escarp]

Is it an actual expression in english ? Cuz i thought it was just a joke from ppl tryna speak french

[brittle ocean]

It’s 3 hours ahead of cali

[dry nimbus]

bro tell me why my birthday is ALWAYS at the end of the year 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[hearty tusk]

It is

[simple escarp]

Aight, well we learn smth new every day ig

[hearty tusk]

Mine was last month

[dry nimbus]

mine was

[cloud sinew]

i know i could immolate, BUT i could instead gold seal + cryptid on a spade 4

[dry nimbus]

uh

5 months ago

[hearty tusk]

Kinda crazy

4th of april

[dry nimbus]

bluepirrrnnemdjdgnmmhghhh

[hearty tusk]

Feel like a clover

[brittle ocean]

Damn, as opposed to sometimes?

[dry nimbus]

ong

[hearty tusk]

Sometimes its at the end

[dry nimbus]

its like a leap year

sometimes its there

like technically one could say im 19

or 4

[hearty tusk]

No youre not 19

Youre just stupid

Hahahahhahaha

Am sorry

[dry nimbus]

im tired

[hearty tusk]

Sleep

[dry nimbus]

of yo momma

boom got you back

[hearty tusk]

Hey >:(

Thats not nice

[dry nimbus]

good night

human

[hearty tusk]

Mothership will strike you for thay

Good nighr, ohisee1

[echo sphinx]

first ante charm skip reload R strat be like

[patent sail]

nat negative rental eternal devious joker 🐈🔥🔥🔥🔥

[pure jasper]

Can I get advice on how to beay violet vessel on gold stake

I always lose to it

[patent sail]

steel or glass potentially idk

[pure jasper]

Normally I play pairs so

[patent sail]

i literally beat one today only because i took chariot + fool with me

[patent sail]

so do i

pair still work with steel yknow

[pure jasper]

How do two steels beat violet vessel?

[patent sail]

so do they with glass

[pure jasper]

Doesn't seem enough

[patent sail]

i had score but not enough to kill it, triple just helped me get there

[pale wolf]

it depends on the situation you're in

[pure jasper]

Idk if I'm doin it wrong since I can only score around 100k per pair

[simple escarp]

reappears

[pale wolf]

if your mult scoring comes mostly from planets then steel/glass clears

[patent sail]

yeahhh maybe, i usually get 200-300k

[pale wolf]

a lot of the time you need anything you can scrounge up to beat vv

[patent sail]

black deck got me playing some absolute bullshit

[echo sphinx]

thonk

[pale wolf]

selling value generators for scoring options, making mult cards previously in the run, etc

[pure jasper]

What's the general build for you?

[simple escarp]

Wtf man

[pure jasper]

I mean...

I guess...?

I rely on my jokers alot

RTB n blackboard and whatnot

[echo sphinx]

do i takeh red card

[simple escarp]

Double rental credit card has to be an antisynergy

[patent sail]

same yea

maybe youre not getting chips or planet levels up enough

[cloud sinew]

i would, yes

[pale wolf]

VV is the reason you maximize rtb scaling throughout a run instead of just as much as you need for the next couple rounds

[simple escarp]

Btw completely unrelated but is that minos on ur pfp ?

[patent sail]

idk man i just work with whatever garbage i get 😭

[echo sphinx]

no he is not PREPARE THYSELF

[pure jasper]

My pair levels are around 8 n stuff

[simple escarp]

Talking bout his corpse

Not prime

[pure jasper]

Maybe I sould use more blue seals

[echo sphinx]

he isnt black ohle aids either

[patent sail]

do you maybe have any chips sources? pairs got puny scaling so that may be the issue

[pure jasper]

Normally squimbo

[simple escarp]

Idk man, the 2 big glowing black eyes and dark blue background made me think of him

[patent sail]

based

[pure jasper]

But sometimes not really

[patent sail]

then im not sure whats wrong

[pure jasper]

I can get around with 3 xmult and 1 +mult

Last slot for econ

That's not the usual build though

Sometimes you just don't get chips jokers

[patent sail]

yeah what whatever zebra said is kinda what you wanna know tbh

[solemn zephyr]

Chat is this winnable

[pure jasper]

Scrambling for whatever to win I guess

[patent sail]

and if you see youre into vv you get 2 rounds to prepare whatever you can like steel, glass, replacing econ for score and etc

[pale wolf]

on my last run, i ran into a VV i wasnt going to be able to beat and so I used heiroglyph voucher

[pure jasper]

True

[patent sail]

like i said last run i survived vv ONLY because of triple steel cards carry

[pure jasper]

VV is the reason I always try pick up directors cut tbh

[patent sail]

if not them id explode crash die and burn

[pure jasper]

I need to learn to rely on steels and glass more probably

[patent sail]

black deck is eternal suffering im ALMOST free

[simple escarp]

Does it actually change the current boss blind ? I've never tried it

[pure jasper]

Just lowers scoring requirements

[patent sail]

it just lowers the score

[pale wolf]

no, it lowers the scoring requirement though

[patent sail]

so you dont explode

[simple escarp]

Oh aight I see

[patent sail]

game i know chips are important but can iget ANYTHING but chips

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1495459135695880472/screen-20260419-121942-1776615549194.mp4?ex=69f6cd1a&is=69f57b9a&hm=51f9ebc96dad950bd969bffac892678555ddaecf4bc048b1d84b89815f6e8d61&
glass :)

[pure jasper]

Yeah I normally don't do retrigger builds

Mostly because they don't come up that often

Only had three so far

[patent sail]

even without retriggers glass is X2 and you cant argue with free X2

[pure jasper]

Yeah but my pair levels are really crap lol

I don't use blue seals that often even though I know how OP they are

[cloud sinew]

tbf you had 2 retrigger jokers

[patent sail]

mistake

[pure jasper]

Yeah I know

[pale wolf]

also a bit of a meme since i win that without the glass

[patent sail]

poly wheel hit

[pale wolf]

but glass is a very common answer to vv

[pure jasper]

True but retriggering it tends ti be important

[cloud sinew]

lol

[patent sail]

buy and immideately sell

fuck photo

[pure jasper]

Why

[cloud sinew]

photo is quite mid

[patent sail]

he looks like he steals candy from children on the street

[pure jasper]

Vagabond behaviour

Though he probably just scares them away

[cloud sinew]

he's just homeless, not a criminal

[patent sail]

full houses build with vagabond so hes no longer homeless :3

[pale wolf]

poggers

[pure jasper]

Now that I think about that scaring children is probably a scary face thing

In the name after all

[cloud sinew]

scarry face and he's just disfigured :(

[patent sail]

chad is a jolly fellow but ive heard rumors about him previously being a part of a criminal organisation "photochad", idk whats up with that

[cloud sinew]

goodbye chad #1

[patent sail]

cryptid missing

[pure jasper]

Propaganda these days

Chad would never

[patent sail]

square + bus found, just roll the win screen already

[supple pilot]

do i want mime or barron here

[patent sail]

nevermind lebron james (me) reportedly just played faces with bus

[supple pilot]

for the blueprint

and brainstorm'

[patent sail]

photochad is a psyop from Big Photo to sell you more photos

[patent sail]

i think its fine like that

idk

[supple pilot]

ight thanks

found an ivislbe joker so we ball

[pure jasper]

Fumbled a run with a 43 mult poly bus because I played a face card while levelling my squimbo...

[patent sail]

i think the correct ratio of copies is 1:1 with favoring baron i may be dumb tho

[pure jasper]

Was devastated

[cloud sinew]

BYE CHAD

[patent sail]

foil banana died immideately

[patent sail]

todo list 🎀🌸

i died because of foil banana exploding

fuck my baka life

[echo sphinx]

thonk

[patent sail]

hex!

[echo sphinx]

familiar cryptid seems like the play

[rustic haven]

idk whats happening

[cloud sinew]

this is probably my highest a8 score in the past few months

[rustic haven]

but im getting insane set up for endless

😭

[rustic haven]

W

lucky?

[cloud sinew]

yeah

cat was 10x

[rustic haven]

ez

dayum

[patent sail]

yall are having fun on other decks and im out here suffering on black gold stake

[echo sphinx]

WHAT

[cloud sinew]

ive done more than my fair share of suffering :(

[rustic haven]

aye i gotta do it at some point to

[patent sail]

after i win this im NEVER coming back to it

my c++ grind is getting done on ghost or yellow

[calm furnace]

braindead easy but could have scaled obe way more

[patent sail]

foil egg

free

[echo sphinx]

judgement 🥀

[patent sail]

AND IMMOLATE IN SPECTRAL mmmfghhh

[idle basin]

Ankh op?

[echo sphinx]

what the fuck lol

[patent sail]

free

[echo sphinx]

ankh op
hexed pants

yeah its op

[idle basin]

i mean it's ghost deck black stake so

i got pants first joker and hexed it

[patent sail]

i miss when i didnt have to play black deck

[idle basin]

then ankh from next shop

[ancient gyro]

other decks?

[frank grove]

🔥

[patent sail]

black deck will be in my note

all of the notes there could ever be in fact

[idle basin]

TEMPERANCE ON DOUBLE HEXED PANTS HAHAHAHAHA

[noble mango]

Have you ever seen someone on nebula deck

[echo sphinx]

what

[patent sail]

well that will be ME after black

[noble mango]

Oops all 6

And seven

[hearty tusk]

Me

Am on the nebula deck

[echo sphinx]

oops six seven

[hearty tusk]

Just squint

[hearty tusk]

GET OUT OF MY HEADGEOTOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEAD

[noble mango]

Nebula sucks imo

[patent sail]

ofc it does

[noble mango]

-1 consumables is insane

[patent sail]

but what can i do

c+

[hearty tusk]

It does?

Sign me up!

[patent sail]

game trolls me by givibg me cards that rebate wants AFTER im out of discards

i swear to god good tarots are a psyop made by big shop to sell me more rerolls

[noble mango]

What if temperance has no limit

[hearty tusk]

Negative giftcard would be a legendary

[echo sphinx]

gift card becomes endless compatible

[patent sail]

ofc all my glass instantly kills itself oh my goddd

[cloud sinew]

naneinf money still wouldnt be possible

[idle basin]

pants +42 LOL

[pulsar wave]

🧐

[patent sail]

would i even want chad over anything idk

[echo sphinx]

nothing probs

stm maybe?

[patent sail]

god no

thats my score

[echo sphinx]

wdym dont u have fib

[patent sail]

yeah no bye chad

[echo sphinx]

and u just retrigger the 8s or whatever

[patent sail]

they both do something is the thing

i literally explode if i dont have either

[echo sphinx]

lol rip

but how

this setup is so fucked lol

[patent sail]

black deck is gonna make me end it all

[echo sphinx]

no xmult that isnt a Steel glas

[patent sail]

it absolutely is

theres like 2 steel queens and a bunch of random glass in the deck man iunno

yeah i died

[echo sphinx]

draw

[patent sail]

dude

i got first shop with 2 rentals

i opened buffoon pack

AND ITS ALSO 2 RENTALS

[echo sphinx]

good ole joker

[knotty zodiac]

if you can get the above draw everytime, guaranteed victory

[vestal forge]

take all rentals, reroll shop for temperance and blueprint

[patent sail]

i got rental piss jonkler

[vestal forge]

u got wwh what

[patent sail]

golden

joker

[knotty zodiac]

if your piss is golden, consider drinking some more water 💦

[patent sail]

the kinda discussions that will happen only on balacord

[burnt topaz]

Is this worth it?

[undone laurel]

You'll play two pair and you're gonna like it

[burnt topaz]

I can make five of a kinds easily, I mean I have 5 discards and over a 4th of my deck that helps.

[frank grove]

theres 7 6s in this photo

[burnt topaz]

Well sixth sense would ruin tha

And I can’t get rid of it

Alright bye bye

[simple escarp]

Eternal sixth sense ? Hell nah

[knotty zodiac]

15 6s though

its worth thinking about

[stark snow]

hi guys

[simple escarp]

Ouija ?

[simple escarp]

Hi

[knotty zodiac]

i assume ya, i didnt scroll up

also erratic

[echo sphinx]

damn i rank uout of slots

this would have been good

[simple escarp]

Keep in mind that it destroy the 6 and use 1 hand

[knotty zodiac]

i think i would take (replace wrath)

[knotty zodiac]

sure but i think good chance itll deliver trance or immo within 2 antes

[simple escarp]

Among 18 spectral cards ?

[patent sail]

my greed sickens even me

[simple escarp]

My body is a machine that turns face cards into money

[patent sail]

12 bucks per hand mmmfghh,,

[thick ivy]

Should I take it?

[echo sphinx]

i forgot my mult

i died

[patent sail]

why not

[echo sphinx]

ok guys what do i take

[knotty zodiac]

16 non-rares. it's more likely than not that they will

[simple escarp]

SPARE TROUSERS

[thick ivy]

Idk what to sell tho

[burnt topaz]

I can just use fool and then it’s equal to matador just without the Econ part (Which I already have fine Econ, Cloud Nine’s $4 along with my consistency so far, even then matador’s Econ sucks) and then it can go further

[patent sail]

faceless? its ante 8, you dont need econ

[knotty zodiac]

wow tough one

[thick ivy]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[echo sphinx]

best +mult scaling or riffraff ante 1

[knotty zodiac]

pants i think

[thick ivy]

Yeah you are right I can't do endless

[echo sphinx]

also thinking pants

[thick ivy]

I'll take the win

Thank you!

[knotty zodiac]

youre playing blue, you might get like +10 per round for a few rounds

godly mult

[hearty tusk]

I LITERALLY just sold a God damn credit card and riffraff hits me with this bullshit man what the fuck😭

Like EXACTLY before this blind

[burnt topaz]

I instantly found a better option and I can’t get rid of fortune teller

Well emperor is here so scaling time

[simple escarp]

Ceremonial dagger synergy

[hearty tusk]

Soon

[knotty zodiac]

i think i dont take ft here, you have no purple seals and econ is middling

[thick ivy]

BUUUUUT MIDAS MASK

[burnt topaz]

Is it better than abstract? It’ll be 15 mult compared to 18 but it has the chips from foil

Eh let’s do it

[knotty zodiac]

ya swash insta take

just beware discount vouchers

[knotty zodiac]

parei midas the dream

but too late

[hearty tusk]

Oh my God

[knotty zodiac]

someone's excited about wily zany 🤡

[hearty tusk]

I am beating this bitch

Black deck? More like...

No no that

[knotty zodiac]

yeah you beat the curve

[hearty tusk]

That doesnt

That doesnt sound good

[patent sail]

what am i wven doing

[knotty zodiac]

parking greed?

@echo sphinx is your bestie

[hearty tusk]

Yes, daddy, were playing clubs

[burnt topaz]

Odds of me not drawing a 6 here are roughly 4.01% with 17 sixes out of 55 cards

I mean I’ll take an immolate without consequence

[knotty zodiac]

lolol hot

[vestal forge]

dont need it with queens and mime

[hearty tusk]

Yeah i know

[vestal forge]

Seeded for Sixth Sense? Why you need 6s?

[patent sail]

how greedy are we feeling today

[vestal forge]

why he look like that

[patent sail]

animated

[echo sphinx]

owo

[vestal forge]

sell the boot

[hearty tusk]

Holy FUCK

[patent sail]

yeah i was thinking either boot or dice

[echo sphinx]

ok idk lol

boot is gone

[vestal forge]

ok maybe dice actually

[echo sphinx]

take your guess what is hidden behind the Soul

[patent sail]

well boot fucking died so

[echo sphinx]

i say chigoat

[vestal forge]

FUCK

nah nah, more money for the red one

i forget name

[echo sphinx]

boot death is like. fine

stm mime is good

[patent sail]

parkinh

[echo sphinx]

and stm works with parking

and parking works with oopsies

[vestal forge]

what legendary ya get?

[echo sphinx]

i havent figured out what to sell yet lol

[vestal forge]

probs bull

$37*2 isn't many chips

[echo sphinx]

bull is my cihp
rocket is my buller
pants is over 100 multe
duo is duo
ramen is ramen

[patent sail]

yeah okay boot was fine

i lived

[vestal forge]

bull or ramen

[echo sphinx]

id kill bull

ight elts see

CHIGOATT

[knotty zodiac]

uwu for perkeo

[vestal forge]

nice that's $10

[hearty tusk]

I am going to die

[patent sail]

i might die rn

[hearty tusk]

Of happiness

[patent sail]

SURVIVED BY 200 CHIPS

[vestal forge]

lmaooo

[patent sail]

Invis copied ST,

STM

[echo sphinx]

temperance value mmmmmmmmmm

(even steven for ramen)

[patent sail]

chariot tarots just dont exist oh my god

[vestal forge]

damn does it keep stickers?

[patent sail]

nevermind one spawned :3

[vestal forge]

stm is good tho since you got mime

[hearty tusk]

I am going to heaven

[patent sail]

oh my god that steel actually saved me

[vestal forge]

only sad if past ante 8

poor run-discussion channel lel

[hearty tusk]

Guys should I drop the steven or juggler?

[patent sail]

wheels dont hit even with the dice whats wrongwitb this game

[echo sphinx]

hm

[burnt topaz]

40% of my deck is sixes, endless mode not required

[patent sail]

now watch this drive

[cyan lynx]

Hi, id like to clear in my mind how a specific mechanic works to min max the econ curve on a pokermon deck . It is the double voucher tag, ive done a few testings and as far as i know the extra voucher will be the one displayed on the right (we can even see the animation of it spawning !)

But here is where im getting confused :

• If i dont buy the extra voucher, on next blind the "intended" voucher from the ante is still available and thats pretty much it
• If i bought the extra voucher but not the ante's voucher at the next blind it is gone.

Is there something unclear to me ? Because from the way i understand how the shop mechanics works i dont understand why the ante's voucher get despawned

[hearty tusk]

I bought the go back in time voucher out of instinct

Am i fucked chat

[burnt topaz]

It’s erratic deck, I started with a bunch of sixes so that’s how I played my build, using my amount of sixes to my advantage

[real crown]

playing a seeded run and e47 with no steel and no scoring jokers is wild lmaoooo

[hearty tusk]

How to blow a perfect run! Be A FUCKING idiot

[patent sail]

it took 4 or 5 wheels to get a hit WITH DICE

[rustic haven]

god i love invis

[burnt topaz]

Started with 10, I ended the run with 20

[hearty tusk]

Alright lets see whats gonna happen

[rustic haven]

this run dies ante 18 tho bc uh

no blank no retcon

:>

[rustic haven]

son

if that was anything higher than purple u lost

😭

[burnt topaz]

Also no it’s not seeded for sixth sense, I already rejected one earlier

[burnt topaz]

I have 2 more hands, a bunch more sixes, and glass cards to spare

Well that’s all the black stakes done

[hearty tusk]

Guys and gals

My friends

I have a dream

[vestal forge]

what if you get sixth sense

[patent sail]

dice doesnt really do anything here, would yall take stone over it to gold sticker him?

[burnt topaz]

My next mission is black stake with no deck (Blue Stake Red Deck)

[hearty tusk]

Egg?

Egg or no egg

Call it

[cloud sinew]

i would drop brainstorm if youre scoring enough without it

[hearty tusk]

Call it yo

[patent sail]

nope im not

[hearty tusk]

Egg or no egg

[echo sphinx]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cloud sinew]

i would drop parking for it then

[rustic haven]

for gold sticker yeah

[echo sphinx]

yeah i would take stone

[rustic haven]

oh

[patent sail]

i would lowk want sticker on the stone rn so i dont have to touch it ever again

[knotty zodiac]

looks like it worked out but i stand by my thoughts

[burnt topaz]

Just gonna let you guys know, discord on my phone has started deciding to be hella laggy, so every message is coming in extremely delayed, right now from my perspective the last 4 messages have been me, which probably isn’t true.

[rustic haven]

6s is also not stickered

[echo sphinx]

id sell dice for stnoe

[rustic haven]

so id go with lilos advice

[patent sail]

6s lowk way easier than stone

[echo sphinx]

stone card is an conditional uncommon

[patent sail]

stone SUCKS

[cloud sinew]

parking is common so it's an easier sticker

[rustic haven]

but u get both

?

[hearty tusk]

Should I go with the egg

[vestal forge]

Yeah someone please help with this because I'm always doing it wrong too

[patent sail]

aight bye parking i guess

[rustic haven]

i assume you have gold cards

yeah?

oh wait its

[patent sail]

yeah a few

[hearty tusk]

The EGG

[cloud sinew]

econ doesnt matter at this stage

it's ante 8

[rustic haven]

ur into the boss

yeah

😭

[patent sail]

yeah im fine

full hand of steel queens is what you like to see

[cloud sinew]

egg doesnt really do much for you considering you already have gift card

[rustic haven]

W

red seal?

even if not W

[cloud sinew]

also why do you have multiple +mult sources

[patent sail]

nah not

didnt ever find one

[cloud sinew]

you have gift+swash and you have STM+mime

[rustic haven]

2 stms with double mime just clears anyway

[vestal forge]

egg instead of hiker

[rustic haven]

stm goated

mime goated

[patent sail]

i got a ton of blue steals tho so

[rustic haven]

lowkey ive been taking mime as an econ joker

[vestal forge]

ya'll should go post in run discussion and answer this guy's question about vouchers

[rustic haven]

the power of blue seals and gold that u get with just mime is wild

[rustic haven]

womp womp

its been like this for 2 months

[patent sail]

run discussion doesnt exist

[rustic haven]

^

[turbid dove]

Guys

[frail jolt]

MY SECOND WIN GAWK GAWK

[turbid dove]

I've done a hiker run

[vestal forge]

yeah agreed

[rustic haven]

tuff or sum

[turbid dove]

Ever?

[vestal forge]

did you use all your hands and did you worry you were gonna die every time?

[patent sail]

amber acorn found dead behind the casino building

[frail jolt]

actually my third but the first one got cancelled bc of bad connection

[patent sail]

and with that black deck is DONE oh my god

[rustic haven]

things ive learned going into c+² grind after 56 naneinf attempts is baron sucks dick stm is goated mime is powerful even on its own and campfire is top 3 xmult rares

c+² bc i have my mobile acc and pc acc

[hearty tusk]

Died to the needle

[rustic haven]

fireee

good shit twin

[patent sail]

hell fucking yea

onto nebula now 💔💔💔

[plush saffron]

yo, wsp yall

[turbid dove]

No. I had duo chad and i found an acrobat and smiley face and played the same spade of kings (lol) and deathbed it several times and witnessed a photograph and had duo chad. Sadly the smiley and acrobat were eternal so i had to give up a chad to get photochad. And won the run with a 200 chip king

[patent sail]

but hey at least i made sure stone joker isnt my last sticker

[turbid dove]

What is the point of adding stone cards to the deck?

I wanna know

[patent sail]

stone joker

and chips for pairslop sometimes

[turbid dove]

Oh.

[patent sail]

and hologram

[turbid dove]

I lowkey don't use pairs as much

[patent sail]

stone joker lowk mid tho

[cloud sinew]

hologram, vampire, stone joker, pair/high card builds

[plush saffron]

whats a good joker to get early game?

[turbid dove]

Im a 🚽er

[patent sail]

riff raff

[cloud sinew]

spare trousers

[turbid dove]

Any joker that upgrades*

[rustic haven]

pairslop is good for grinding high stakes

anything else just kind sucks

unless u get a good flush five run going

its most likely a pairslop run

xd

[hearty tusk]

HOLY SHIT

OH MY GOD

[plush saffron]

ok thx, because i lowkey suck at the game and idk how to get really far without getting smashed my "The Wall"

[cloud sinew]

not really

[hearty tusk]

Were SO back baby

[turbid dove]

Rocket

[hearty tusk]

WEE MUFAKIN JOKEE

[turbid dove]

My love

[cloud sinew]

there are plenty of scaling jokers that suck in the early game

[turbid dove]

Yeah

[cloud sinew]

you said any joker that upgrades is a good joker to get early game though

[turbid dove]

Ik.

If you want that joker

[burnt topaz]

This stuff pisses me off so I’m doing the math to remember it: What scores enough on ante 1 small blind to 1 shot (Assuming not on plasma deck, I’ll do that another time)
Anything below straight will not be enough.
A, K, or Q high straights are enough, otherwise, no straight is enough.
Flush is enough if the chips add to 40+, otherwise flush isn’t enough. (There’s no better way to simplify this)
Full House is enough guaranteed with 3 Aces, enough with 3 of any of the 10s, as long as the 2 isn’t 2s, 3 9s needs 2 4+s, 3 8s needs 2 6+s, 3 7s needs 2 8+s, (technically 7s would work, but if you have 5 7s, that’s not a fh) 3 6s needs 2 9+s, 3 5s needs 2 10+s, 3 4s, 3s, or 2s will never be enough.
Four of a kind or anything higher will always score 300.

[turbid dove]

For a run

[cloud sinew]

wanting it doesn't make it good

[turbid dove]

Challenge run?

I posted a wall of text gif and it's not allowed

[cloud sinew]

yeah ".gif"s arent allowed

[turbid dove]

I see

jumpscare

[real crown]

lmaooo my only active scoring joker is jimbo

man's carrying the run

[turbid dove]

Holy naneif

[turbid dove]

Fr

[hearty tusk]

I am going to do it

I never liked you, you giant slab of stone

So were going DOUBLE slabs of stone

[real crown]

twin towers .........

[rustic haven]

obelisk my baby boy

(ive never used it)

well i did once

but thats when i was dookie shit

[vagrant wagon]

Do i take Baron?

[real crown]

the coward's answer is "how many kings are in your deck" and the true believer's answer is "yes"

[vagrant wagon]

My Deck

[terse dock]

Eh fuck it its white stake live a little

[real crown]

that's, like, a normal amount of kings? so sure why not

[hearty tusk]

THE GOAT

I GOT THE GOAT

[vagrant wagon]

I just don’t know how you play with him never used him because I thought every Time I saw him he‘s Useless

[burnt topaz]

With $4 every round, that’s enough for a tarot card, and with emperor and fool and arcana packs when I have extra money, things went fine, I think I did have a purple seal somewhere end of that run, but i was fine without it, i think it was better than… i just remembered we were comparing fortune teller to matador, fortune teller is better in A LANDSLIDE.

[terse dock]

Dont play into him too early you want to slowly pivot to him

He's like obelisk if obelisk was bad

[burnt topaz]

Can somebody please help me because the advanced players really like this joker but I’ve just never understood how to use it properly, how do I use campfire well?

[vagrant wagon]

Good question

I don’t know either

[versed sable]

lot of money on late antes equals a zillion mult

[heavy heron]

imo campfire is really only good if you have a good source of money (such as rebate or gold cards)

you buy a planet, sell it

buy a tarot, sell it

[versed sable]

mediocre amount of money is still a lot of mult if you're just using it on ante 7 or 8 tbf

[heavy heron]

if you have a free joker slot, buy a common (cheap), sell it

but don’t go below like $20

or you’ll be broke all run

you really need to have extra money to make campfire work

selling even just a few planets and tarots gets campfire to a 2x or 3x which might just be enough to survive the ante

problem is that you gotta do it all over again next ante

so, again, you need a source of money to make it work

[karmic warren]

red card but good

[heavy heron]

orrrr you just sell 1-2 items

find an emperor? that’s 2 easy sells

high priestess? 2 sells

but again don’t reroll until you’re dead broke, just to sell 1-2 items or you’re dead

[patent sail]

i have 11 hand size and hook SNIPED the only 2 steel queens i had in hand

[hearty tusk]

Trying to win black deck with Obelisk is like trying to pull off my skin with a nail clipper. Its not effective, and it fucking hurts

[vagrant wagon]

What is the best strat with Baron DNA or for what should I look?

[burnt topaz]

And getting these things for free (Let’s say, because of purple and blue seals, or cartomancer, vagabond, and astronomer for jokers) will actually give you money to boost xmult since you’re selling it

[heavy heron]

yup! purple seals and blue seals are free things to sell

also vagabond + campfire is hard

[knotty zodiac]

my bad i think i misread, i thought you wanted to replace abstract

[heavy heron]

you’ll sell so many tarots you’ll go above $4

[knotty zodiac]

ya matador goes

[versed sable]

what stake/deck are you trying to do it with

[vagrant wagon]

Erratic White stake

[versed sable]

i mean
you shouldn't really be forcing baron there

[heavy heron]

hook specifically goes for enhanced cards in hand, didn’t you know?

[vagrant wagon]

Really?

[burnt topaz]

I know, I was just saying it because it’s a way to gain tarots

[patent sail]

i will go after its code in the game files and rename him into "fucking IDIOT"

[knotty zodiac]

vaga campfire is okay, even if you dont sell during the round, it's still 0.5x mult. only problem is you wont be able to buy anything in shop unless you hit a temp/hermit/lucky proc

[heavy heron]

looks like you really got hooked in..

[patent sail]

dont look out your windows tonight

[burnt topaz]

I’ve won with every deck up to black stake, and ghost deck up to orange stake, which jokers have I NEVER won with?
Joker
Jolly Joker
Mike
Credit Card
Ceremonial Dagger
Marble Joker
Loyalty Card
Chaos the Clown
Burglar
Superposition
Seance
Midas Mask
Luchador
Gift Card
Turtle Bean
To The Moon
Stone Joker
Popcorn
Campfire
Troubadour
Certificate
Showman
Idol
Matador
Invisible Joker
Chicot

[rustic haven]

chat yk what i realized

[burnt topaz]

And by that I mean those are the ones I haven’t won with

[heavy heron]

if you say so! i don’t play towards diamonds much anyway

[rustic haven]

the day this game dies is the same day rebate gets nerfed

imagine if it was like $2-3

$3 isnt bad

i guess

[heavy heron]

if it was $3 that’d be awesome

[rustic haven]

its just a gold card atp

but like

$5 is genuinely insane

for a common

😭

[heavy heron]

needing a rebate to crutch a run is stupid anyway

[knotty zodiac]

give burglar/cert/chicot a try. theyre really good

[iron vigil]

1$ per scored diamond card 🔥 🔥

[rustic haven]

its not crutching tho its just the best econ

u have faceless?

gone for rebate

you have mid gem?

[heavy heron]

i’m just saying like

[iron vigil]

Not the best econ

[rustic haven]

gone for rebate

[heavy heron]

it’s poor game design anyway

[heavy heron]

as you just explained

[rustic haven]

you have anything that isnt midas mask retriggers with golden ticket that needs 4 jokers?

gone for rebate

😭

[heavy heron]

hence why it’s stupid

[rustic haven]

its so utterly dumb

[heavy heron]

LOOLL

[rustic haven]

yeah

[knotty zodiac]

bought every planet for $30+

rebate still better than satellite

[rustic haven]

most uncommons go for rebate too

to the moon?

gone for rebate

[viral raft]

Good morning everyone

[rustic haven]

even with money tree

[rustic haven]

LITERALLY

like bro

how can a single common joker dominate every single econ joker in the game

actually insane

[viral raft]

real, i hate how op rebate is

[heavy heron]

good thing it’ll be nerfed!

[viral raft]

i non sense

[knotty zodiac]

a1 perkeo. sell for rebate is right decision most of the time

[rustic haven]

if even

[patent sail]

tradimg card on a canio run mmfghhh

[simple escarp]

Um it might be a dumb question but luchador doesnt work on vv right ?

[heavy heron]

it does

[viral raft]

other jokers like Wee are by far the best scaling chips but atleast are rare or not always are great

[rustic haven]

im not gonna spend more than like

[patent sail]

it actually does

[viral raft]

rebate literally worst in almost anything except burglar

[simple escarp]

Aight thx guys

[rustic haven]

2 blinds playing for a hermit perkeo

[heavy heron]

it divides vv’s score requirement by 3

[rustic haven]

bc rebate exists

[knotty zodiac]

rebate collides with trading card a bit. thats pretty much its only antisynergy with other econ

[rustic haven]

it just makes the 3x 1x im pretty sure

[heavy heron]

exactly what i just said

[rustic haven]

mine was easier to understand

so frick u

[heavy heron]

for a new player? no

LOOLLL

because what exactly does 1x mean

[rustic haven]

1x the ante duh

[frank grove]

eh not really, trading card eventually makes rebate much better cause you naturally deck thin allowing you to stop trading card and then PUMP rebate like mad cause you just have 15 of the same rank in your deck sometimes

[rustic haven]

pretty simple to understand imo

[heavy heron]

you don’t learn about that when you’re new

but ok

[rustic haven]

just look at the blinds

[rustic haven]

u should be looking everywhere in a new game

[knotty zodiac]

well at that point you alr won..?

[frank grove]

yeah of course

[heavy heron]

so the score requirement is 200k, 300k, and then vv is 1.2 million

“oh yeah luchador just 1x’s it dw” easy to understand btw

[rustic haven]

first thing i did downloading any roguelike was look through the items and collections

[frank grove]

but you can just say that about rebate in general 😭

[heavy heron]

well some ppl just hit play

[bronze pollen]

Bro violet vessel is COOKED

[heavy heron]

like me

[rustic haven]

fair

[simple escarp]

Asking cuz i have a decent run (idk it gets the job done on white stake so...) but I wasnt making it through vv with it

[knotty zodiac]

like... if you have cloud9 and trading card and rebate came, would you sell c9?

[rustic haven]

what the flying ass

am i looking at

[bronze pollen]

I have like 30 kings

[rustic haven]

white stake demon here

[burnt topaz]

I’ll explain these 3
I do like burglar, and in the right builds it can be useful, but most of the time for me it isn’t enough and I’d rather have a scoring joker.
Certificate has for sure helped me win runs in great ways even though I barely notice it, but by the end I’ve sold it for a scoring joker after it’s already done great work for my build, so it doesn’t get stickered.
I do enjoy Chicot, it’s just I haven’t gotten to use him much (He was the 2nd to last thing I got for my collection, first being money tree.) and the times I did, it was either endless or I lost, so I didnt get a sticker.

[rustic haven]

gng you have a joker slot

[stone shell]

who needs +mult anyway

[rustic haven]

😭😭

[frank grove]

yes, if i have like 9 9s and a thin enough deck whenever rebate hits 9s i get way more money than cloud nine can give me in a whole run

[rustic haven]

i was gonna say at ante 3 is wild then i checked the deck

W tho

[stone shell]

yeah nobody is scaling castle that fast that early without checkered

[bronze pollen]

That is a jimbo trust

[knotty zodiac]

if you play easy hands like pairs or HC, burglar is a scoring joker. basically a 1.75x xmult. more with blueprint/brainstorm

cert makes sense. would just add to not be afraid of eternal cert. it pays its keep

[rustic haven]

aye i meab

mean

[naive frigate]

Is there a build in which you can always get nane inf

[rustic haven]

baron mime

plasma white stake

[viral raft]

Baron mime?

[naive frigate]

OF COURSE it's baron mime

[rustic haven]

what else would it be

its baron mime perkeo

baron mime burger

[naive frigate]

W perkeo

[noble mango]

the stench of stencil

[rustic haven]

baron mime bean bug

[naive frigate]

Perkeo my goat

[rustic haven]

or stencil

[viral raft]

5 hundred idols

[patent sail]

sigh

[rustic haven]

perkeo is bitch made naneinf

[stone shell]

baron mime isnt even consistent since you need voucher luck to get retcon

[rustic haven]

hi roffle

[naive frigate]

How is stencil going to help

[rustic haven]

and antimatter

[noble mango]

4 hundred and ninety nine stencils beat 5000 idol

[rustic haven]

^

[viral raft]

facts

[frank grove]

vouchers usually means that some plasma white runs are really tough to get nan on just cause you cant get the necessary vouchers and thats the biggest problem

[knotty zodiac]

mm im thinking unfixed a3, guaranteed $4 vs fishing using hands with 1 effective discard (after proccing trading card)

[fringe nebula]

so is obaervatory

[rustic haven]

you play black stake plasma

get an eternal stencil

[stone shell]

varv check run discussions quick

[rustic haven]

perkeo too

[stone shell]

i need inputs and the chat is dead

[knotty zodiac]

you can post here 😛

[viral raft]

Fuck you Violet Vessel!!!!

[noble mango]

imagine

an army of 40 eternal stencil with 7 joker slots (default)
and most of them negative

(each of them count as an empty slot so

40 x 40 x 40 (40^40)

[rustic haven]

then you keep popping ankh and ecto over and over

[rustic haven]

^

[viral raft]

Runner is way better

[rustic haven]

all roads lead to baron

[lunar zealot]

you don't understand

[patent sail]

i forgot im on nebula and ripped emperor

[lunar zealot]

i have to do this

[rustic haven]

you have to

[lunar zealot]

i'm not strong enough to resist

[frank grove]

I still think i take rebate, even in this case

[rustic haven]

let the voices decide

[noble mango]

bah ron

• it's not rental

[viral raft]

nah runner is way better even as rental

scaling chips

[lunar zealot]

QLUIJHBSFUBJKDBFSKVHBJRBSJKDGDFSLBJKKVBFSG

[naive frigate]

That's 1.2e+64

[viral raft]

while baron barely will do anything

[noble mango]

🤣

LMAO

[naive frigate]

Anyways how do you even achieve that build

[viral raft]

this run will me 100m point or 0

[burnt topaz]

Yeah that makes sense it’s just I don’t play those hands as my main build, I only normally do in burnt joker runs, which require discards, which burglar doesn’t let you do.

[viral raft]

^

[noble mango]

nah it will be 600

[naive frigate]

Pay up!

[burnt topaz]

Also the game just keeps on giving this to me

[noble mango]

send me the seed

[lunar zealot]

ok

[burnt topaz]

I honestly don’t know what to sell for sock and buskin

[noble mango]

send me da seed

after ur done

[burnt topaz]

Why couldn’t sock be the negative 😭

[naive frigate]

Alright

[noble mango]

doing that shenanigan

[patent sail]

there was a full ss of his game over screen somewhere idk i think @frank grove had it

[serene forge]

girl what the FUCK are you doing

[lunar zealot]

I DON'T KNOW

[naive frigate]

Playing balatro i think

[serene forge]

this is not the kami i know

did golden needle finally break you

[lunar zealot]

oh i won