🕹・game-discussion

[eager lance]

i was thinking of a way it could be better without being too broken

i think this is a good idea

how do you pivot from the seance to this with ectoplasm??

[pale wolf]

it would be decent yea, i support

@cloud sinew thoughts on seance making negatives

[eager lance]

it would barely make a difference but why not yk

[eager prawn]

This can't be serious T T

[eager lance]

ig the sell value

[versed sable]

?
whats the hard part

[eager lance]

you have less hand size so u cant play straight flushes

[versed sable]

i still have 59 hand size,,

[eager lance]

so you only do it once u get a joker that increases hand size?

[versed sable]

+

[eager lance]

wait but how did u get so many duplicates of one joker

[eager lance]

wdym by the crimson heart lol

[brave goblet]

bean bug

[versed sable]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[night bridge]

Bean bug

[brave goblet]

🫘 🐛

[eager lance]

oh yeah i forgot about that

[knotty zodiac]

it's nice to buff seance but does this boost seance enough to be more takable?

[brave goblet]

eat the ramen

eat it

ooooooooo

[eager lance]

seance is only for the brave!!

[pale wolf]

https://youtube.com/shorts/T68jIBwdByI?si=c4KxBphNylhN6XNL

[brave goblet]

straight flush is kinda tricky to do, it's only fair

[iron mountain]

I think it makes it more “attractive” to build a deck around it

[pale wolf]

posted the short because the demographic of this chat has sunk to short form content levels

[brave goblet]

If you pull off 18 straight flushes, you deserve to keep all of the resulting spectrals

[fading solar]

What is everyone's fav mod

[pale wolf]

i like vonnegut

[iron mountain]

I dont even have bean discovered yet..

Its such an irrelevant joker

For me

[knotty zodiac]

i mean sure, blocking consumable slot feels bad and the sell value helps with temperance. just doesnt feel like enough, thats all

[fading solar]

I'll look into it, looking for qol and just straight randomness

[pale wolf]

temperance is joker sell value

[pale wolf]

im joking

thats a discord mod here

[knotty zodiac]

my mistake. so it doesnt even help with that..

[fading solar]

Damn

[iron mountain]

And to be fair this is all coming from someone thats used seance like once

[pale wolf]

my favorite mod concept is aikiyoris scrabble mod

[iron mountain]

Whats vonnegut and whats good about it

[pale wolf]

this is vonnegut

[iron mountain]

Aside from the name being original

Oh

[iron mountain]

I didnt read this mb

[eager lance]

why all gold?

[iron mountain]

Eco

[eager lance]

like 1000 dollars 😭

[versed sable]

??

give me a reason why not

[iron mountain]

4.2 million apparently

[fading solar]

Eco

[iron mountain]

Wouldnt steel have been better

[fading solar]

Can you put gold seal on steel?

[versed sable]

what would i need more scoring for

[iron mountain]

Yea

[versed sable]

yes it'd just be extremely stupid for my run

[fading solar]

Ah fair

[iron mountain]

Isnt that the point of the game

[knotty zodiac]

what if seance filled your consumable slots with spectrals? is 2-3 spectrals enough?

[fading solar]

I don't get the concept of synergy yet but I will

[brave goblet]

ouija, incantation, grim

best it can do

[eager lance]

thats what im saying

[brave goblet]

[versed sable]

ok here's my max scoring right now

i don't need scoring

😭

[eager lance]

isnt steel better

[eager lance]

oh lol

[iron mountain]

Not even e3210?

Lmfaooo… /j

[pale wolf]

🤔 two extra copies on mime?

[eager lance]

so ideally you would want to go for baron/mime with this

[pale wolf]

am i misremembering how to play or is the calculator not optimizing correctly

[fading solar]

Your order annoys me 😭

[iron mountain]

Now that caleb said it..

[eager lance]

wait isnt having even amount for both or one baron extra better

[iron mountain]

Wheres the symmetry dawg

[pale wolf]

thats what id expect

[fading solar]

Mime, bs, BP, then baron

[pale wolf]

esp. considering theres no steel

[eager lance]

yeah

[eager lance]

fr

[versed sable]

..?

[pale wolf]

oh never mind

totally right, the order is just strange 😭

[versed sable]

i did not tell it to optimze, i know the copies already

sob

[pale wolf]

just got confused with the placement of the jokers

[eager lance]

how does boss blind cycle work?

[versed sable]

i do it this way in the run, with parking being copied in the same spot instead of baron, because it's wayy easier to count how many copies i need
since i have exactly those copy jokers

[pale wolf]

every boss in a random order, and then again in another random order, ad infinitum

[waxen fable]

ante 8 is special though

youll only see the 5 specific final bosses

[eager lance]

alr

[pale wolf]

and multiples of 8 have the showdown bosses yea

8 16 24 32

[versed sable]

game picks all the bosses that are possible, and randomizes the order
whether you go to the next ante or you reroll the boss, it'll pick the next one in order
once it runs out of bosses then it'll re-randomize and do it again
-# ("random" being per-seed)

[eager lance]

yeah ik 👍

[bronze pollen]

I started a new profile and got a marble joker with hologram

[eager lance]

ah, serpent the hardest boss

[bronze pollen]

I died to serpent once🥀

[eager lance]

ig it could be difficult early

[ebon condor]

WE have died to serpent before

naw it limits decksearching so it can fuck you over via that

[bronze pollen]

Immediately after I saw a video on it by roffle

[eager lance]

yeah

[ebon condor]

it killed me with ancient + photochad bc i didnt draw a face card in my required suit

[eager lance]

i never tried ancient joker

just seems bad to me

[bronze pollen]

If you have only one suit it’s bad idk if it’s selects it from on your 4,3,2,1 suits or suit

But the 1.5x is good

[calm furnace]

on todays episode of flushes dont scale
user wins thanks to mult from Jupiter (doesnt scale btw!)

[fervent wolf]

Rip

[vale shale]

Helo gamers. 1 take gold stake run any deck. Which deck are we thinking bout.

[lyric lance]

Truly unfortunate

[lyric lance]

Black

[calm furnace]

also castle has tendenacy to only pick the suit you have the least off

or pick the suit the boss is disabling

[lyric lance]

😭

Ngl i think youre js unlucky

[calm furnace]

round 1 castle 127 chips

[calm furnace]

i sigiled and had 2 worlds my deck was most spades

but castle ignored my spades

[royal shale]

Castle checks your deck so it literally has higher odds of choosing the suit you have the most of

you just got unlucky

[calm furnace]

which lead me to play spade flushes and ended up with jupiter levels

[icy turret]

Ive missed gold sticker on banana twice now because its gone extinct both times on ante 8 boss 🙁

[calm furnace]

yeah it was just bad lucky

[lyric lance]

Roughhh

[calm furnace]

i rarely ever have my castle less than 200 chips

its just one of those days

[lyric lance]

You got this!

[eager lance]

sad

What is the best deck for first time gold stake

[calm furnace]

also it didnt help that i had no source of mult the entire run and i had to hard reroll down to below interest 4 times

[lyric lance]

Ghost or blue

[calm furnace]

so i had to stack gold cards

[eager prawn]

I'm trying my deck to checkered

[lyric lance]

Depends on your playstyle a lot tho

I like blue

[calm furnace]

yellow

blue is best for experienced players

yellow is best for players getting into GS

[eager lance]

for the econ?

[lyric lance]

You make back the $10 in 10 rounds

[calm furnace]

but those 2 decks are on a tier of their own imo

[calm furnace]

econ is the name of the game

[lyric lance]

Blue is js so nice

[eager lance]

ive heard econ management is rlly important on gold stake

[lyric lance]

Tru

[icy turret]

Ive always found ghost to be easiest because access to spectrals makes for more clutch plays

[lyric lance]

Its fun but inconsistent

[calm furnace]

thts if you are lucky

ghost is the most fun, its my main deck

[lyric lance]

Ive had a few runs where i saw no spectrald

[eager prawn]

Depends on the deck

[calm furnace]

it allows for builds that are not possible on other decks

[lyric lance]

Peak

[calm furnace]

like 5 eternal stencils

[eager prawn]

Not really important tho

[icy turret]

Yeah ante 1,2,3 shops matter a lot in them

[lyric lance]

Absolute cinema

[calm furnace]

?

[eager lance]

coincidentally both of them have higher stakes unlocked for me already

[calm furnace]

money is how you win or lose

on any deck

[eager prawn]

[eager lance]

hm

i might go for ghost

[lyric lance]

Whats the highest stake youve beaten?

[icy turret]

Plasma can be kinda free too

[calm furnace]

the stronger decks are the decks that make more money (blue and yellow) or decks that allow you to spend your money better (zodiac)

[icy turret]

But plasma is a way different playstyle

[lyric lance]

Plasma green stake is a skill check

You have to learn how to pivot

[eager prawn]

Plasma is the easiest btw

[lyric lance]

Plasma white & red is where i go to attempt naneinf

[calm furnace]

what in the name of misinfo is this

[lyric lance]

GS? No

[calm furnace]

gold stake plasma is not the easiest

far from it

[lyric lance]

WS? Yes

[icy turret]

The ability to identify your current run's shortcomings is a skillcheck for every deck/stake

[calm furnace]

plasma GS is arguably the hardest after black

[lyric lance]

Plasma especially tho

[eager prawn]

Skill issues

[eager lance]

i one attempted blue stake on zodiac deck and i have blue stake unlocked on ghost and blue deck

[lyric lance]

I lowk forgot blue stake existed 😭

[lyric lance]

Zodiac is really fun yeah

Go for ghost

[icy turret]

I only play gold stake so i dont even remember stakes besides blue lol

[eager lance]

lol

[eager lance]

alr

[calm furnace]

just rotate every deck on every stake

until you get to GS

[lyric lance]

💀

[eager lance]

i have them decently spread out rn

[lyric lance]

What i did for C+ is id beat a deck until GS

Then beat one stake of black deck

[eager lance]

not like a lot alot

[lyric lance]

Then rinse and repeat

[icy turret]

Oh wow

I just straight sent the decks in order until i beat each one on GS

[calm furnace]

yeah same here

[lyric lance]

Thats valid but i couldnt with more than one black deck win at a time

[calm furnace]

except black i had it last

[lyric lance]

Ts was pain

[icy turret]

Seemed easiest to keep track of

[eager lance]

ill just go for ghost deck gold stake cuz i one attempted red stake, green stake, and blue stake (in general)

[lyric lance]

Hell yeah!

[serene forge]

im gonna get eye'd

[icy turret]

Yeah admittedly black deck gs is when i started to almost get burnt out after grinding it for a month😭

[lyric lance]

Hello very gay lesbian hornet

[lyric lance]

Valid

[serene forge]

hi

[icy turret]

Good luck

[calm furnace]

if you find card sharp the odds of getting the eye become 98%

its in the game code

[eager lance]

for c++?

[calm furnace]

supernova + card sharp summons the eye

[eager lance]

what skill toys

[icy turret]

C+, started c++ after i gs'd every drck

[eager lance]

crazy

[icy turret]

Retired speedcuber of 17 years (WCA: 2009DAVI01), been playing kendama for about a year (ig: @hana_kendama)

I also juggle

[lyric lance]

Whats a skill toy

Am i js slow

[eager lance]

nah ig most ppl dont rlly know what that means

[icy turret]

Basically dextrerity toys that have tricks/progression involved

[lyric lance]

Trying to learn how to solve one rn

Solvethecube.com

Is what im using

[eager lance]

ooh nice

i used to do speedcubing too

and i learnt how to juggle but i wasnt that good

[eager lance]

just use yt video

[lyric lance]

Out of curiosity which jokers do you not have GS on

[woven hare]

balato

[icy turret]

loyalty card, banana, burglar, faceless
Seance, midas, hit the road, matador

[lyric lance]

Midas twice?

[eager lance]

i also did pen spinning and book spinning lol

[calm furnace]

midas?

[eager lance]

[lyric lance]

Midas. Mask

[icy turret]

Wait that list is missing one

[lyric lance]

Face cards -> gold when played

[woven hare]

im never gold staking all my jokers if my data keeps resetting

[icy turret]

But yeah its just the really niche gimick ones basicslly

[lyric lance]

😭 rough

[royal shale]

which banana

[lyric lance]

I dont have gs on baron somehow but i got it on mime

[woven hare]

3rd time its happened, and this one's the first my collection has also gone bye

[woven hare]

oh i wonder

[icy turret]

Michael

[royal shale]

I assumed so but had to ask

[pale wolf]

michel is so annoying

[lyric lance]

Anybody here have a cavendish die?

[pale wolf]

A few times

[lyric lance]

It died once for me

Twas a sad day

[royal shale]

I think twice here

[icy turret]

See:

[pale wolf]

My first cavendish death was before I even realized how significant it dying was

[royal shale]

shocked it hasn't happened more with how much I have Dice during gamblemaxxing

[lyric lance]

[woven hare]

[icy turret]

Its happened twice to me in like 3 days

[lyric lance]

Peak

[woven hare]

i didnt get satellite

💔

[pale wolf]

not my clip

[icy turret]

Oh also an argument for ghost deck being easier to gs is access to ecto

Ive had so many lucky ectos give me a free sticker

[eager lance]

crazy

[eager lance]

how good were u at speed cubing

[woven hare]

round one poly hologram im gona mult all over the screen

[icy turret]

https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/persons/2009DAVI01

[eager lance]

wow you are really good

[icy turret]

Ty

[eager lance]

i thought i was good with 9.23 3x3 pb

[icy turret]

That IS good dude

[eager lance]

yeah but not as good lol

[icy turret]

Sub 10 is hard

I was mostly into big cubes

[woven hare]

and wraith gave me bp

[serene forge]

never punished

[calm furnace]

easier to gs as in win gs or as in sticker?

imo ghost is one of the easiest decks to sticker with

can just take any joker you never stickered and put a hex on it and have it be somewhat useful

[vale shale]

I have lost 3 black decks in a row

And it's in a row row so every single time I asked it's 3 black decks in a row

Streak continues or not. Let's see tomorrow.

[solid bronze]

4 extra gold stickers in one run after yorick carried me from dying to the plant, i feel great

[serene forge]

easy game

[icy turret]

Get a sticker

[solid bronze]

what blind am i missing huh

[molten thicket]

balatromaxxing

[solid bronze]

why is it showing 99%

[pale wolf]

because 343 is smaller than 344

[solid bronze]

no seriously what blind am i missing

[torn ember]

Showed my friend my deck

[molten thicket]

not discovered maybe

[torn ember]

He was astonished that I even made it to 10

[pale wolf]

your game bugged on one of the blinds once, you'll have to find it through trial and error

[solid bronze]

the joke is that i ALREADY have achievement for 100% discovered on steam

turns out that for some reason, deck creator mod adds a boss blind

[pale wolf]

oh well duh modded

[solid bronze]

here i thought i went crazy and then turns out it was deck creator

[broken swan]

Beautiful boss blind

[pale wolf]

whenever anything weird happens and mods are installed it tends to be the mods causing it

[solid bronze]

last time it was just me editing jokers.png and exploding my hologram

i don't recommend editing the png of hologram as it tends to make balatro explode

[willow frost]

what boss is it

[solid bronze]

idk i used deck creator to do some hologram shenanigans

[willow frost]

how do you not know what boss was added lol

[viral raft]

guys, which deck do i play to C++ this one?

[solid bronze]

always play your favorite deck for c++

[viral raft]

i'm tired of yellow deck

[solid bronze]

ghost then

[viral raft]

i want to try new decks

ok

seems really good

[solid bronze]

ghost is goated

[viral raft]

yep

[solid bronze]

well cuz i only used deck creator to do shenanigans

[viral raft]

i saw some people playing Zodiac deck

seems really versatile in general because of the merchants

[solid bronze]

people usually play yellow or ghost from what i saw

one of people here loves magic deck

[viral raft]

yeah, the "S tier" decks to gold are mostly: Yellow,Ghost and Abandoned

but seems like Zodiac is having a place atleast on the C++

[solid bronze]

i tbh liked going for gold on plasma

[viral raft]

did you C++ on plasma?

[solid bronze]

i'm not sure if i'm going to c++ ever, but i'll most likely split it half on plasma for chip jokers

[viral raft]

tbh i hate plasma kinda by his incosistensy but yeah i see the idea

[solid bronze]

i just chip maxx

[pale wolf]

plasma is considered the second least consistent deck for winning on gold stake and i dont even think its particularly good for chip joker stickering

[solid bronze]

my gold sticker went sorta like double square, wee and hack

[viral raft]

true

is better to Xmult stickering

[pale wolf]

I think it just sucks for stickering

your selection for winning jokers is smaller

[viral raft]

yeah me 2

[cloud sinew]

youre forced to pivot fairly often that stickering is quite hard to leave room for

[viral raft]

literally just a few strong chip jokers and then only Xmult thingies

[solid bronze]

i may be stupid or just lucky but i liked plasma

[pale wolf]

lilo thoughts on seance making negative spectrals

[viral raft]

i just feel like Chip based builds in plasma are incosistent by the idea that Violet vessel appear and you basically dies

[cloud sinew]

cool but doesnt really change the balance much for a8

[viral raft]

i feel like Seance needs a direct rework

is just sucks in high stakes and i don't see a way to make it viable overall

[solid bronze]

stop showing me photograph

[pale wolf]

what if your first seance hit was guaranteed to be sigil 🦓

[viral raft]

what if Seance just summons immolates

then is just another pair slop joker

[pale wolf]

self destructing seance

you get 3 uses if you're lucky

[viral raft]

i think that seance should be better as a passive instead of a spectral generator

[icy turret]

just got for photochad every run for gold stickers ez

🤪

[cloud sinew]

maybe making it be a harder to hit TDL but for spectrals...?

[solid bronze]

i need an Xmult joker

[cloud sinew]

WAIT

what if the first time you play a poker hand it generates a spectral

[ebon condor]

i like the strush flavor tbh

[sand nebula]

i dont think baseball is really that good but this is still a crazy first shop

[ebon condor]

it just needs to be.. better

[viral raft]

i don't like the idea overall because you simply are going to wait for a easy poker hand

[cloud sinew]

what

there is no "waiting" there

[solid bronze]

do i get stencil and sell out of most jokers or nah

[ebon condor]

its not like tdl i dont think

more like reverse nova

[brave goblet]

8ball maxxing

[viral raft]

wdym? so what is the (poker hand) thingy means?

i thought it was a tdl basically

[thorny nebula]

which is optimal?

[frank grove]

Any hand you haven’t played in the run - if I’m reading it right

[solid bronze]

9

[thorny nebula]

i thought so

its econ with a holo tag

cant be bad

[solid bronze]

you get 10 mult and 4 bucks a round

[viral raft]

ohhhh i see

oh that's cool

[ebon condor]

if the joker's theming was different i think itd be fun

[thorny nebula]

you never actually build towards 9s tho, right?

[frank grove]

So you only get 11 total spectrals in a run but it’s a much easier trigger

[thorny nebula]

you just kinda accumulate them and let them be the econ for now?

[ebon condor]

but i like seance requiring setup

its an idea that not many jokers utilize

[frank grove]

Yeah

[brave goblet]

Betrayed by idol be like

[frank grove]

I wish it was a slightly more impactful mini game joker though

[untold onyx]

Two runs away from c+!

Checkered and zodiac left only

[pale wolf]

thats a first

[viral raft]

well done!

[pale wolf]

never seen either of those be someones last few decks

[untold onyx]

I kinda forced myself to play whichever deck I found more challenging, so those are left as a sort of victory lap

[frank grove]

I’ve seen zodiac before, but checkered is kinda weird as a last that’s a lot of people’s firsts

[pale wolf]

fair enough i did the same

[untold onyx]

Abandoned is my favorite

Only got it like

Before painted

[sand nebula]

dude this run is crazy blueprint value

i got blueprint with burnt joker, hallucination, and photograph

[iron vigil]

Kinda did the same too, my favorite deck is black deck and im leaving it for last

[sand nebula]

i can switch it around so easily to double all of them

[iron vigil]

Goated

One plant and its over

[sand nebula]

oh my god

i just turned blueprint negative with ectoplasm

[sand nebula]

just need that coupon that lets me reroll

[iron vigil]

Yess true

[sand nebula]

just picked up showman

this might be funny

ok i just got the plant

but its really early

so its not too bad

can just blueprint blue joker for security

easy

2 hands left

[lime remnant]

lowk should have skipped

[viral raft]

theres 4 mercuries in the shop trust me

[lime remnant]

no but theres const

bait

[sand nebula]

burnt joker in the shop trust

[lime remnant]

sure

if i dont win this im pissed

[viral raft]

gem alert

[sand nebula]

is dna worth it over jolly joker

i havent had any issue finding my good cards for a pair build

but still

actually ill just sell blue joker

honestly this is crazy for blueprint

hallucination, burnt joker, and dna

[random terrace]

I have a joke guys

[solid bronze]

i have plans i can't share here

[random terrace]

Your pfp reminds me of a YouTube I watch

Their name is squiddo

[brave goblet]

[light oak]

should I take odd tod, in scraping for score rn

[solid bronze]

i'm past the hearts boss, time to turn my brain off

[viral raft]

Blackboard deserves a nerf ngl

easiest x3 mult in the game

[brave goblet]

Comedy

[waxen fable]

what kind of nerf

[viral raft]

x2-x2.5 mult

idk less xmult

[brave goblet]

Whole deck gone

[viral raft]

is way too good

[brave goblet]

Not if you're built into hearts

[viral raft]

who the fuck play hearts

even diamonds make more sense because of Rough

[cosmic sun]

@brave goblet

[light oak]

do I bloodstone

[viral raft]

HELL NAW

[cosmic sun]

no

[random terrace]

No

What are like notable seeds to play like ALEEB

[cosmic sun]

I hope the triple no inflicted severe mental damage to every Bloodstone fan just now

[brave goblet]

if you get the head early, you play hearts

[brave goblet]

yes, and die

[viral raft]

only new players do that tbh

i used to do that so i could just play save with my flushes hahaha

[solid bronze]

rebate and giftcard gs, on one of most braindead runs ever

[brave fox]

I like to hide in the freight area at work and play balatro

[brave goblet]

wym, I'm talking about building into suits that got debuffed early

even if you're not gonna be playing flushes

[viral raft]

i mean if you don't play flushes why are you playing around suits?

[brave goblet]

Future flush five

I've watched too much multiplayer

[solid bronze]

yes, i glaze bloodstone and still say it's braindead with oops - because it is

[brave goblet]

I'd be playing pairs lol

[viral raft]

overall is better to go clubs because of seeing double and blackboard and spades just because of blackboard lmao

[brave goblet]

Realest

(hence my clubs role)

[viral raft]

hearts literally only has Bloodstone

[brave goblet]

Clubs has worked out for me lots

[viral raft]

even diamonds is better than hearts because rough gem is actually good in early situations

[solid bronze]

when they're slandering your suit but they're right

[light oak]

should I take the idol?

[eager prawn]

Should I take shortcut?

[solid bronze]

i mean, yeah, just don't forget to move the knife from runner

[eager prawn]

Who knows

[viral raft]

yeah then replace icecream/4 fingers for a xmult

Shortcut is way better than card named finger

[solid bronze]

they have 7 joker slots

[eager prawn]

Replace?

[solid bronze]

sacrifice the useless jokers to knife

[viral raft]

true true

[viral raft]

incase if you see a good joker and you don't have joker slot sell one of thoses 2

[cosmic sun]

hell naw

[viral raft]

mostly icecream

[solid bronze]

gelato will die in 5 rounds max anyway

it's a perishable

[cosmic sun]

Also most of that would die in a straight build, including runner

[viral raft]

true, is only knife value

[solid bronze]

and temperence

[cosmic sun]

Assuming you actually leveled saturn

[viral raft]

true but when is perished he will 100% go knife in the gelato

[solid bronze]

who wouldn't

[viral raft]

unless theres a temp on shop

[light oak]

should I sell one of the burnt jokers, skip the blind because card sharp has one blind left, and pray idol hits something I'll get?

[lime remnant]

that was too close

raised fist done

[mossy phoenix]

Is this the worst ever start lol

[viral raft]

Pareidolia on next shop trust me

[lime remnant]

prolly kill one burnt

maybe not

[surreal grove]

Hello! Does somebody want to help a poor student get the game on Steam? After paying for my driving courses I'm almost broke. Thanks in advance!

[buoyant stratus]

You

I had a run where I found Mr. Bones early but couldn't get an ankh, I'm now trying again

[iron mountain]

I always get lucky whenever im NOT playing on a high stake

[bronze widget]

i never get scoring

[lime remnant]

PLEASEEE I NEED SOMETHING

[light oak]

finally got gold stake on green deck 🥹

[buoyant stratus]

Holy shit first try

[buoyant stratus]

Nice

[lime remnant]

BALALA GOD ANSWERED MY PRAYERS

WE ARE BACK?

[iron mountain]

Whats so lucky

If its not the riffraff i dont understand

[viral raft]

riff raff early run

that's really poweful

[iron mountain]

Figured

[thorny nebula]

neg tag best tag, esp when you snag 2 double tags before it

[vale shale]

The forbidden riff

[vale shale]

I was gonna say "wow you are that one geometry dash youtuber" and I looked into your about me as I say that you have "GD player" on it

[random terrace]

Lmao

[vale shale]

And you play bee swarm

[random terrace]

Yes

This run gets even insaner

[solid bronze]

i forgot gifs aren't postable here

[solid bronze]

get a cryptid and go for naneinf

or pass the seed

[lime remnant]

bro where the fuck is my score

banana is NOT enough

[solid bronze]

trust in the banana and poly riffraff

should've put +50 chip joker on far left smh my head

[iron mountain]

shaking my head my head

[lime remnant]

yeah sure whatever

[icy turret]

142/150

[iron vigil]

free reroll hell yeah

[cosmic sun]

lowkey the sell price of baron might be the play

[iron mountain]

Did u know that that early pack baron actually puts the run in a clear direction and allows for early deck fixing and high scoring later on? /j

[lime remnant]

why the j tho

im taking barom

just for that

[cosmic sun]

🥀

[iron mountain]

Means im joking

/joking

[cosmic sun]

Schools should teach Balatrology

[lime remnant]

i didnt ask what it mean you buffoon

[cosmic sun]

this baron shit getting out of hand

[solid bronze]

someone should paint the baron red

[iron mountain]

Did u even get the reference..

[cosmic sun]

put that mf under a guillotine

[solid bronze]

is baron a french king tho

[lime remnant]

im so happy seeing chud baron trying to make a living in gold stake 🥹

what deck do i play

no green black plasma

[random terrace]

Ghost

[lime remnant]

other than ghost

[random terrace]

Checkered for flush slop

[vale shale]

It's not usually me saying this but green deck

Gg

I hate green deck

Like so much

I mean I used to

It's not as bad anymore

[lime remnant]

bro i said no green 😔

i fucking hate green

[pallid galleon]

green deck is chill tho

[vale shale]

Oh true

[pallid galleon]

you don't have to save money for interest

[vale shale]

Wait zodiac

[pallid galleon]

i like being able to spend down

[vale shale]

This is for all the people who keep giving me zodiax

[lime remnant]

1 million pair slop means 0 money

[vale shale]

You know I could always say "no black and zodiac" but where's the fun in that?

Like I'll remove something out of spite because I keep getting it? Boooring

[lime remnant]

im js gon play good ol reliable blue

its been forever since i played it

[vale shale]

Then again this whole day I just got 3 black decks in a row

[bronze widget]

i almost greeded too much

[kind sierra]

I wonder if 1.1 will give a reward for purple stake

[humble gulch]

No

[bronze widget]

my scoring perished what do i do 🙏

[open sky]

I accidentally naneinf'ed and now stuck with the "Oops! Something went wrong" error. Is there any way to get around this? On iOS Mobile

[icy turret]

Arcane then swash

Maybe steel joker depending on your deck?

[humble gulch]

There's a sly right there

[icy turret]

That too

[bronze widget]

150 chops doesnt score 75000 😭

i lost to the needle ggs

i got perishable sock and buskin and scaryface same joke when both perished i lowkey just perished too

[brave goblet]

It calls to me

[viral raft]

i already won so tell me, should i replace Loyalty for the tribe and the abtract for the Droll one?

i feel like tribe is almost useless and also is rare so i should take it to already stickering it

[brave goblet]

Sure, sounds reasonable

[turbid nova]

what do you even call this

[pale wolf]

why replace a nonsticker with something stickered already

[turbid nova]

burglar slop?

I had 11 hands per round

[pale wolf]

an obelisk game

[turbid nova]

I got the obelisk on ante 7 tho

[pale wolf]

cursed photochad obelisk

[brave goblet]

never too late for obelisk

[turbid nova]

true

I just realized the obelisk is placed suboptimally

oh noo the horror

[pale wolf]

oh no you couldve scored 8% more

[mental bloom]

Base Mult was high enough to one shot the finisher boss 😭

Without the cards scoring, 4oak level was at 34 😭

[turbid nova]

damn

[shell dagger]

lol this is why i hate gold stake. the first shop is alway so ass!

[mental bloom]

Ye... Early Trio and Family, Invis into Trio, and Spaceman and Blue Seals everywhere 😭

[shell dagger]

like what am i supposed to do with a perishable rental devious joker

[mental bloom]

And Misprint js there

[eager lance]

wtf lucky card just triggered $20 twice in a row

[viral raft]

i love when that happens

basically all your savings are done

[eager lance]

i got it with this build rn lol

and beat ante 8 boss blind at same time blue stake ghost lol

im going for gold stake on ghost deck

[viral raft]

this is how new players looks like when they don't get photochad:

[eager lance]

mail in rebait sitting in corner: 😭

[viral raft]

cool build

i love cat in pairslop

[eager lance]

pairslop?

[viral raft]

literally any scaling joker sitting on the corner of all newplayers runs

[eager lance]

lol

[viral raft]

yep

cat works in pairslop

is really good

[turbid nova]

balatro players when no banana on shop 1

[eager lance]

wdym by pairslop i mean

[viral raft]

playing basically around pairs

[turbid nova]

playing lots of pairs

[eager lance]

so we just adding slop at the end of everything now

[turbid nova]

grimbo, ride the bus, stuntman, etc

[viral raft]

the reason is "slop" is because pair is by far one of the most played hands in high stakes

so turns kinda repetitive

[turbid nova]

that's the one people use the most to be fair

I don't like playing pairslop unless the game basically forces me to

[viral raft]

literally 90% of gold stake runs

[turbid nova]

true

[viral raft]

just look at this

all this to c+

i just started c++

[cosmic sun]

Good thing Obelisk exists

[turbid nova]

but I like 5 card hands they give me dopamine 😔

my most used planets are saturn earth and jupiter

[cosmic sun]

Obelisk turns pairslop into pairgem

[eager lance]

true

[eager lance]

same

[eager lance]

wtf

[viral raft]

the only time 5 poker hand are viable is straight and maybeeee Flush 5 with hard deckfix

[cosmic sun]

3oak gang

[viral raft]

and flush if you have a ancient joker

[turbid nova]

or checkered deck

[viral raft]

nah even on that you mostly just play pair slop

the diff is the ante 2

[cosmic sun]

Blue seal just too good

[viral raft]

then is just another average deck

i hope Localthunk see a way to buff high poker hands

[turbid nova]

I mean if you get some blue seals you can get flush to ridiculous levels

it doesn't scale very fast sadly

[viral raft]

i don't like Full house and flush because of how "unskilled" they are but that doesn't justify made them so bad at high stakes

[cosmic sun]

It's obvious why pair is dominant over flush

More cards held in hand = more value

[turbid nova]

full house is my fav hand

[eager lance]

this is mine lol

[cosmic sun]

[viral raft]

damn 513 best hand

[solar meteor]

ik what’s best :3

[eager lance]

wdym

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[viral raft]

i mean you seems kinda new at the game

by the planet levels

[eager lance]

yeah i started last week

[viral raft]

this are my stats in my first file

i was lowk noob at that time

[turbid nova]

since when did uranus take the lead

I did just do a pants run so that makes sense ig

[viral raft]

i love how well balaced looks

[eager lance]

lol i dont think ive ever done a two pair run

[eager lance]

lol

[turbid nova]

two pair lowk my most played hand

[viral raft]

it's great with trouser pants

[ebon condor]

true hand agnostic over here

[eager lance]

💀

[viral raft]

guys i finally C+ my lastest file, choose me which deck should i play to C++

i want to learn how to C++ new decks

[ebon condor]

zodiac

[eager lance]

what decks have u done

[viral raft]

Yellow and ghost

[solar meteor]

black

[viral raft]

the most generic ones

[turbid nova]

C+ is gold stake on all decks right

[viral raft]

nuh uh

[eager lance]

oh ok

[viral raft]

yep

[turbid nova]

I'm doing that right now

I got red and blue and I'm doing black

[solar meteor]

well i’m out of options

[ebon condor]

"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" ahh

[turbid nova]

here's my joker list lmk if there's any elephants 🐘

[viral raft]

good luck with that! take your time and learn strategies while you play low stakes

[viral raft]

😭

i think i should play Zodiac

opinions @solar meteor ?

[cloud sinew]

zodiac should be fubn

[ebon condor]

ive never seen shortcut in someone's top 10

[solar meteor]

yeah sure i like zodiac

[viral raft]

i hear zodiac is actually good in c++

[cloud sinew]

fortune teller, smiley, and shortcut

[solar meteor]

considering there’s no downside and upsides are very versatile

[cloud sinew]

the decks that are "best" for C++ are the ones that are good generally

[turbid nova]

FT is great for begginers imo

[viral raft]

yeah, basically is just a "better shops" deck

is really versatile

[ebon condor]

obligatory anaglyph bait

[cosmic sun]

mark of shame

[solar meteor]

a lot of better joker synergy

[cloud sinew]

not only do you find more tarots and planets, you also find ideal tarots more often

[viral raft]

true, imo the only deck that have "better" results to stickering is anaglyph but only the first stickers, then is the same meh deck as always

[stark charm]

Anaglyph ain’t even good generally 😭

[cosmic sun]

Anaglyph users just dunning kreugered themselves into that position

[viral raft]

alteast is decent in negative stickering farm

[turbid nova]

Negative skip dopamine hit (you get 6 free mid jokers)

[viral raft]

then after the first stickers is trash

[cosmic sun]

Personally I just learned that skips were generally bad early on so you could never even torture me to play that shit. I just used blue for C++

[stark charm]

I find blue deck easiest on gold stake

[turbid nova]

I did it first try

[karmic junco]

PHOTOCHHAADDDD

[solar meteor]

as expected

[cosmic sun]

Lowkey the anaglyph early stickering strat isn't really even that relevant depending on the route you took to get to C+

[cloud sinew]

it's agreed upon by a lot of people that it's the best deck, or at the very least in the top 2, so that's not surprising

[viral raft]

i really like how first shop in Zodiac has alot of options most of the time

peak versatile

[ebon condor]

actually fire first shop

[cosmic sun]

So many jokers were already stickered

[ebon condor]

abstract my goat

[cloud sinew]

a bad player would say go for the spectral pack

[stark charm]

Oh that is me

[viral raft]

immolate on the pack

[turbid nova]

Wraith blueprint

[stark charm]

GAMBLE FOR IMMOLATE GANG

[turbid nova]

Always gamble on spectral

[viral raft]

tbh Spectral is the biggest RNG thingy on the game with bloodstone

[cloud sinew]

nah

[stark charm]

I am taking spectral bait anytime

[ebon condor]

at least a bad spectral pack wont kill u

[viral raft]

i dislike spectral packs...they're op but most of the time is just red card value

[cloud sinew]

i think theyre quite mid usually, it's just that the highroll is very good

[turbid nova]

I think that’s kind of the point

[solar meteor]

you have like 5 good hits

[pale wolf]

assuming you go for c+ first i guess

[stark charm]

-1 handsize bait, are you sure about that?

[pale wolf]

subsequent c++s dont worry about that

[eager lance]

@viral raft did u see this? recently ive started focusing less on endless so it's gotten better

[cloud sinew]

skipping is always an option

[ebon condor]

*if you arent stupid

[viral raft]

yeah, i don't like it because of that, the spectrals that they're in the game are basically "i'm shit after early antes" or "i'm the OPs thing ever" almost nothing on between

[eager lance]

fr

[ebon condor]

and then theres aura

[stark charm]

But can you afford to skip after you already buy the pack????? Sunk cost fallacy 100

[turbid nova]

Familiar is an ok middle ground

[cloud sinew]

yes

[fallow shadow]

i will never stop opening spectral packs because immolate is the best thing in the entire video game

[viral raft]

oh i didn't see that sorry...tbh i used to do that alot in my first file hahaha, basically just photochad and endlessslop

[fallow shadow]

i will open 100 dud packs for a single immolate

[solar meteor]

do you think balatro thrives on intentional imbalance similar to like pokemon with their bug types

[fallow shadow]

i will burn this entire fucking deck to the ground

[eager lance]

yeah now ive started focusing more on early game jokers

[stark charm]

Spectral lead to fun run so spectral is always a take

[viral raft]

that's great, something important is that: Endless mode DOESN'T exist

[ebon condor]

all games do to a degree

a perfectly balanced game doesn't exist

[viral raft]

so always think about win, not making high ahh scored with inconsistent builds

like shitstone

[pale wolf]

I don't think the imbalance in balatro is intentional so much as just inevitable and accepted, within reason

[stark charm]

I open 5 spectral that run and get no single immolation

[eager lance]

wait were u the same guy who said that before

why do u say that?

[stark charm]

Endless is lowk boring

[ebon condor]

it doesn't exist

[eager lance]

oo just got the $20 again twice in a row

[turbid nova]

Sigil is also a nice early spectral

[eager lance]

@viral raft btw how is my run pairslop

[turbid nova]

But it’s not super op

[pale wolf]

endless mode isnt real bc the game doesn't account for it mechanically

[viral raft]

imo sometimes localthunk makes some stuff umbalance by purpose as a way of making funny builds around that (like isaac making op and shitty items)...but sometimes localthunk by accident makes stuff like pairslop or rebate

[pale wolf]

every piece of the game was designed for 8 antes

[turbid nova]

Except the idol

[solar meteor]

it’s my second worst spectral

[viral raft]

what about baron and idol?

[pale wolf]

That was also designed for 8 antes, just was a failure

[stark charm]

Then why did baron exist???

[cloud sinew]

petroglyph

[pale wolf]

That's why thunk does not like it

[fallow shadow]

i heard theyre changing serpeent so that naneinf will be impossivle is that true ? i hope its true becasuse i hate endless players

[turbid nova]

Bro is not a flushmaxxer

[pale wolf]

it won't be impossible but the main methods will be destroyed

[ebon condor]

baron was def designed for 8 antes, idol is just confused i think

[cloud sinew]

something being designed for ante 8 doesn't mean it's well designed for ante 8

[stark charm]

I always thought idol is x3

[ebon condor]

bro walked in the wrong building

[fallow shadow]

(serpent naneinf will be impossivle i mean i know perkeo works)

[solar meteor]

it fails to do that depending on what you draw

[viral raft]

basically a build is pairslop when you can easily go pair with that jokers, like easy Xmult jokers or inconditional stuff like free mult

[cloud sinew]

that's not why localthunk is changing it

[stark charm]

X3 idol would have been decent for 8 ante

[cloud sinew]

he's changing it because it's just not a "boss"

it helps you more often than it hurts you

[eager lance]

yeah but mine is four of a kind 💀

[fallow shadow]

well yeah i know that. i just hate endless players and want to bring that up whenever possible

[viral raft]

wdym 4oak?

mime works in anything

that's why is peak

[woven remnant]

endless?

[pale wolf]

also chicot and bean bugs are getting fixed

[eager lance]

i mean my build

is four of a kind

[viral raft]

show screenshot idk

[turbid nova]

I don’t like pairslop but my fav joker is blackboard

[viral raft]

is the lucky cat one?

[eager lance]

should i take ecto?

[cloud sinew]

no

[stark charm]

Mine are hiker

[cloud sinew]

you should just sell space if you want to get another joker

[viral raft]

nah

[solar meteor]

old serpent was too easy

new serpent disables the ability to hold more cards by drawing up to 3 cards to incentivize more general risk for all builds including pairs marginally

[stark charm]

It is feel good joker that is meh

[woven remnant]

I hope they only fix the extra hand size bug and not the whole multiple chicot exploit

[viral raft]

imo the build is a 5oak/flush 5 so you can trigger more in the final hand

[cloud sinew]

chicot stacking is fixed entirely

[viral raft]

but as a 4oak is really cool

[stark charm]

How do you dupe Chicot

[zinc hawk]

Naneinf related question: if the ectoplasm from a tarot pack hit DNA, would any subsequent ecto that I found hit DNA if I save scummed and skipped that pack? Or does the RNG reset with each pack opened?

[cloud sinew]

ankh, invis, showman + soul that gives chicot

[viral raft]

ankh or invis

[eager lance]

yeah, havent gotten there yet, didnt have enough queens

[woven remnant]

thats a shame

[stark charm]

Isn’t that just normal duplicate?

[pale wolf]

it has something to do with the order you picked up the jokers

[iron mountain]

Coming back to an idea I had like a couple hours ago

[viral raft]

should i take delayed or try to get tarot generator?

both seems nice

[cloud sinew]

the exploit is what happens with multiple chicots, not an exploit to get multiple chicots

[woven remnant]

take the grat

[iron mountain]

What if seance created negative spectrals?

[pale wolf]

The bugged part is that it would give you multiple reversals of the boss blind so you would get basically inverse effects

[turbid nova]

Like needle giving you extra hands

[stark charm]

Pfffft

[cloud sinew]

i dont think it would change much for ante 8, it would be a mainly endless focused change

[pale wolf]

well, it gives

bc thats how the game is rn

[viral raft]

ohh i see, good luck with that!

[turbid nova]

Wall and violet vessel get low target scores

[calm furnace]

Viollet who

[stark charm]

Do water just give +928 discard or smth?

[zinc hawk]

Knowing it would hit DNA no matter what would help me cope right now, I was one correct ecto hit away from having all the pieces necessary for my first naneinf lol

[iron mountain]

I think whats good to know is that chicot doesnt disable the effect of the boss blind but reverses it, which is what allows wacky stuff like this

[pale wolf]

each additional chicot is your base discards back

[zinc hawk]

I ended up save scumming and selling the DNA and using the ecto and then spending all 3.5k I had looking for another DNA to no avail

[pale wolf]

iirc

[ebon condor]

well, in instances where it makes sense for that to be how it works

[viral raft]

mega blind should be 2.5X size of blind

[fallow shadow]

multiple chicots inverting the effect is funny and honestly should stay its just the fact that some things are permanent thats the issue

[stark charm]

I can’t see it being too broken

[ebon condor]

its not like chicot adds +$1 per card played on tooth

[trail pier]

oh thats not bad

[pale wolf]

i hope the doubled effects stay and are added to luchador actually
permanent effects can go yea

[cloud sinew]

he fixed it because it's a bug and that things like that affect new content and the like, not because it's unbalanced

[eager lance]

alr, its endless tho so it doesnt matter for u right? 😆

[iron mountain]

Would still improve the joker and allow for better deck fixing

[viral raft]

Andy seems tempting here

[stark charm]

Sad

[iron mountain]

Also it utilizes negative consumables which is insanely under utilized right now

[cloud sinew]

it would be an improvement but it's still not even close to being a good joker

[viral raft]

kinda hahaha, tbh is fun sometimes but if you want i can gave you some tips to that

[iron mountain]

Only joker that can create them is perkeo, a legendary joker

[pale wolf]

It's really funny to take a mechanic added for a specific Joker and then say it is underutilized

[stark charm]

When will we have bossblind that give chips debt

[cloud sinew]

it would go from D to maybe D+

[pale wolf]

like yeah it's underutilized, it's only supposed to be for that Joker

[ebon condor]

if it made 2 negative spectrals it might be good

[iron mountain]

It doesnt need to be that way though

[pale wolf]

but why would it be any other way

or why should it

[woven remnant]

10 dolars -3 rental and - 1 potential interest

[ebon condor]

but you might creep into the territory of being able to force immolate or sm

[fallow shadow]

seance is good if you sell it

[cloud sinew]

exactly. changing things for the sake of changing them is not a good enough reason

[pale wolf]

It's not like negative consumables are something that are missing from normal gameplay, they're just not a factor at all

[eager lance]

sure, should i pivot to 5 of a kind if i can?

[cloud sinew]

it would require a lot of setup for a8, which means it's not really a problem

[viral raft]

good damn zodiac is actually so good in gold stake, i can literally just play anything i just need to get gud

[viral raft]

yeaah or maybe flush 5

[iron mountain]

Didnt you support the idea back when I first said it..

[ebon condor]

fair enough, it would still allow you to passively improve the spectral pool

which honestly might be enough of a draw

but idk

[stark charm]

Now that I think about it is there really no other way to create negative consumable in base game?

[iron mountain]

Well u can always play anything and get good.. doesnt matter what deck and what stake

[pale wolf]

we're missing negative playing cards and all the other editions of consumables too, should that be added as well (i actually think negative playing cards would be fun and inconsequential given that negative is never transferred thru duplication/copying)

[verbal pawn]

I need help, i cant see my cursor in any mode exept in window (So i cant see in borderless or in full screen) someone can help me??

[solar meteor]

could be some new rare event effect :(

[cloud sinew]

i agree with the statement in brackets

[stark charm]

I am genuinely creating 1e78 negative consumable every hand in cryptid

I think they cap it at like 35

[cloud sinew]

#⚙・modding-general

[iron mountain]

Not even a horrible idea?

Negative gold blue seals and let em rip

[verbal pawn]

some one can help me please?

[stark charm]

Rental and perishable consumable

[iron mountain]

Considering that playing cards can have all the other editions

[stark charm]

Perishable card!

[pale wolf]

I mean I like the idea of seance making negatives, it just feels ghostly and correct since seance is already pretty weak

[cloud sinew]

have a look in #1200105253559873707 and if someone hasnt had that issue before then make a post in there.

[pale wolf]

I don't think negative consumables should be some thing that is more ubiquitous though

[fallow shadow]

i think balatro should probably get new things. some changes here and there. maybe some new jokers. maybe in ljke an update or sometbing. am i right

[stark charm]

Rental card -1$ every time the card is triggered!

[viral raft]

black deck sometimes just flips you off in high stakes ngl

[pale wolf]

Don't you mean a sequel

[fallow shadow]

balatro 2

[pale wolf]

balatro 2 coming out 2027

[cloud sinew]

the squeakquel

[stark charm]

Perishable card debuffed after triggering for more than 10 time!

[viral raft]

Balatro 2: Jimbo's revenge

[iron mountain]

Sequel will be popular for 2 weeks and then fall off hard

[cloud sinew]

it should stay at 5 rounds if it was ever a thing

[iron mountain]

Ppl will play it, think ”huh, thats cool” and then just go back to the original

[stark charm]

Having debuffed card in deck would sucks

[cloud sinew]

new pillar effect
all played cards become perishable

[stark charm]

Except if you have metadour

[pale wolf]

what game has this happened to

[pale wolf]

im trying to remember a specific one

[calm furnace]

what if we get a prequel?

Balatro: Jimbo Origins

[carmine hollow]

That right

[iron mountain]

Theres millions of games around.. so..

[fallow shadow]

town of salem

[stark charm]

Lmao it is won’t be a bug too because it is technically boss effect

[carmine hollow]

I confirm that there will be sequel

[cloud sinew]

every borderlands game after 2

[carmine hollow]

Only for Nintendo switch

[pale wolf]

oh absolutely that's what it was

[iron mountain]

Balat-dos

[pale wolf]

catastrophe somehow got it

[fallow shadow]

i used to be big into town of salem

[iron mountain]

Wait town of salem has a sequel?

Since when

[fallow shadow]

i got like 200 something hours in 1 and like. 3 in 2

[stark charm]

Why don’t we have eternal card

[cloud sinew]

it basically wouldnt do anything

[stark charm]

Eternal glass card

[carmine hollow]

Tower of babel should get one , The first part has idea but failed to fufill it

[pale wolf]

exactly

[stark charm]

Hanged man immunity?

[pale wolf]

it would finally get rid of that stupid downside that immolate has

🦓

[cloud sinew]

why would you want that

you arent forced to use it

[iron mountain]

Playing cards already have a hanged man immunity if you dont use hanged man on them-

[calm furnace]

balatro 1.1 should be just localthunk finally fixing glass joker

thats the only thing the game needs

[stark charm]

No I mean you are forced to sell eternal joker either

[cloud sinew]

what

[pale wolf]

The only use cases I can see are the spectrals that have random card destruction, and perhaps it would be immune to being discarded by hook or selected by Bell

[stark charm]

It just make that you can’t destroy it

[calm furnace]

its been like 2 years and glass joker still untouched]

[cloud sinew]

i'm saying you arent forced to use hanged man, not take eternal cards

[iron mountain]

Pretty niché

Just like negative consumables…

[stark charm]

Yeah but you can’t use it on them

[pale wolf]

worse than niche, detrimental usually

it would be the showman of playing card stickers

[cloud sinew]

what