🕹・game-discussion

[turbid nova]

LMAO

[red briar]

goatbelisk

[turbid nova]

ok in black deck it's kinda worse

but whatever

[red briar]

chaos jimbo doing nothing

[stark charm]

Shitting on chaos jimbo will be not tolerated

Hehe free reroll

[red briar]

what could you POSSIBLY

get from that reroll

you have 5 jokers 🙏

[unreal topaz]

eternal dna is bad for that goal, you need 2 ectos

if you can get your hands on 2 ectos, and all the mandatory vouchers, then it's possible

but like

good luck

[stark charm]

Tarot,planet card?

I am definitely taking eternal chaos on early ante

[unreal topaz]

i love when discord shows me messages from four hours ago

[red briar]

i neeed to naneinf

now 🥺

[stark charm]

Play Cryptid

[red briar]

on vanilla

im doing white stake plasma dih runs

[stark charm]

If you are not careful you might accidentally hit 1e308

[unreal topaz]

https://youtu.be/drSH2ofiRcc?si=7GYnL2240vTuUZNX ill send this again

even if you know the pacing this shows you you aren't being greedy enough

[stark charm]

Just do ghost deck Cryptid slop

[red briar]

drspectred has never been very helpful for me

[unreal topaz]

i am slightly shocked to hear this statement

icl

[pale wolf]

This person probably can't even get a 60+ win streak in Gold stake so why should I listen to them

[red briar]

i mean

i got gold stake wins on every deck by just playing the game more

i didnt really learn anything from BU

[unreal topaz]

hearing a good player talk through their thought process always helps me

[magic perch]

what about clubstep x bangarang

https://youtu.be/-UjXCb4rYd0?si=5KdW13rhNgVcMOpe

[unreal topaz]

i did, even after getting C++

theres so much to learn even after that

[red briar]

i guess

[unreal topaz]

for the sake of higher winrate

[red briar]

up until now i've just been riding on fundamentals

[unreal topaz]

every small optimization adds up

[red briar]

deck fixing, generally good jokers to pick, etc.

my winrate is unfortunately not that high though

[unreal topaz]

yeah, that gets you far, but seeing other people's perspective can't hurt

[red briar]

i mean i've tried watching the videos

but i can't necessarily apply it to my own game

[unreal topaz]

hmm

[red briar]

and most of the time i don't necessarily get the right setup anyways

that might be down to my money not being good

[unreal topaz]

there it is

so you probably have some biases you don't realize

and money management can just about always be improved

[red briar]

my card stats speak for themselves

[unreal topaz]

no econ jokers is wildd to me

besides chad

i always have rebate and hallucination in my top 10

[red briar]

i mean i've never really needed good econ for purely getting wins

i dont like rebate because it's unreliable

[unreal topaz]

well you need it for winning consistently

[red briar]

and i dont even think i have hallucination unlocked

[knotty zodiac]

wdym by unreliable

[unreal topaz]

ohkay then so you're undervaluing econ jokers in general

rebate being "unreliable" is egregious but anyways

like

its five bucks

per card

[knotty zodiac]

im getting more and more shocked as i scroll up

[unreal topaz]

thats like $10 average with a standard deck

[red briar]

i find it hard to balance getting econ with getting score

[finite sorrel]

Mine as well. My favorite jokers(Wee and Rocket) aren't even there

[unreal topaz]

variance doesnt matter when its money

it matters when its score

[red briar]

so i just disregard econ and go for scoring jokers

[unreal topaz]

this takes practice tbf, you have to know how much you're scoring and how fast you need to scale

[red briar]

is economy tag worth taking round 1 btw

[unreal topaz]

economy tag? no

[red briar]

or is seeing early shops more important

[unreal topaz]

the only good tag ante 1 is investment

[knotty zodiac]

well, stable money is a bit better than peaky money- ex. egg vs golden

but it's just that rebate is avg $10 vs $3-4 others that throws everything off

[unreal topaz]

bc $25 snowballs really hard and you see more options overall

[unreal topaz]

okay but egg is way better than golden

[knotty zodiac]

uh wait rly?

i have it the other way arounh

[unreal topaz]

yeah, the money also snowballs

more money for more rolling for more tarots

its a ton of money later on average

[knotty zodiac]

the money only snowballs when you have good tarot gen

[unreal topaz]

golden is better ante 1

maybe ante 2

[red briar]

you might also make 0$ from rebate

if you're not that lucky

[unreal topaz]

egg is much better by ante 3

by that i mean picking it up ante 3

i'd rather see egg than golden in the shop by ante 3

[knotty zodiac]

disagree. if you have no tarot gen and you have only egg as econ, there will be suffering

[red briar]

i know the basis of baron mime naneinf is steel red seal kings + good money

but i cannot pull it off

[unreal topaz]

standard packs and arcana packs will almost always give you value generators

[knotty zodiac]

for every run that hits multiple $50 temperance, there will be a few where the run will get scrambled

[unreal topaz]

usually thats where most value generation comes from

egg is rarely your only econ anyway

unless you have early rentals

[stark charm]

Free shop is kinda decent actually

[unreal topaz]

this is the only exception where golden would be better

[knotty zodiac]

arcana is avg 3/16 temperance when tarot blocking. you can go many antes without seeing a single temperance

[gentle basalt]

No

[unreal topaz]

not rly on gold stake

not for consistency

[gentle basalt]

This is just false

[split condor]

all seals??

[unreal topaz]

im saying over the course of the run

you'll see some

at some point

i was unclear

[gentle basalt]

Its at most like 10-15$ of value, and half of the stuff you wouldnt buy anyways

[stark charm]

You still get free pack it usually get some value

[gentle basalt]

You stated "arcana and standard packs will almost always give you value generators"

Thats not unclear, thats plain false

[unreal topaz]

yeah, i meant that's where you find most value generators, i misspoke

[gentle basalt]

But you miss one shop

The value of seeing a shop is more than a free shop

[unreal topaz]

"give you your" instead of "give you" would be closer to what i meant

[knotty zodiac]

i think youll get unlucky here and there but surely $10 avg is better than consistent $4? its statistically v unlikely to completely whiff the whole ante

[split condor]

guys is this money

[gentle basalt]

Seeing a shop has lots of implied value

[unreal topaz]

yeah, it's money so if it comes in bursts you just spread it over a few shops

[minor portal]

no, it's Patrick.

[knotty zodiac]

wrong reply?

[unreal topaz]

instead of spending it all in one place

[gentle basalt]

Yeah mb

[knotty zodiac]

the problem is if you get money in ante 6 but you needed it in ante 3, you're in deep trouble..

[unreal topaz]

rebate isn't that high variance, i see your point about egg but usually it is actually ante 6-8 where i start getting outscaled and need more xmult

[knotty zodiac]

imo

rebate variance is fine
egg is not

rebate variance is a lot smoother

now if you had cart, hallu, vaga, etc. then its probably fine

[unreal topaz]

still, if you see even one temperance egg's raw money is about 50% more than golden, even if you spread the golden money between more shops

i value egg very highly

[knotty zodiac]

time value of money and consistency are bigger factors to winrate than avg money per round

[cloud sinew]

temperance + egg is a lot more inconsistent because of it being so much worse when youre already struggling with econ, as youre a lot less likely to open packs or reroll in that case

[unreal topaz]

i just usually have other sources of money

[red briar]

this run is a whole mess

[unreal topaz]

i still think egg is better in most situations than golden

[cloud sinew]

i dont because golden is unconditional

[unreal topaz]

because in most situations you get value generators in your deck

[knotty zodiac]

ok we agree to disagree i suppose

[unreal topaz]

yeah

at this point it sounds like preference

[knotty zodiac]

i used to play egg swash a lot and switched away bc of some incredible lowrolls

first c+ card stats

[tawny bough]

balatro time!

i have 4 gold steaks so far any recommendations of what to gold steak next cuz idk

[red briar]

is director's cut meant to be taken on naneinf runs

[minor portal]

ribeye.

[knotty zodiac]

yes and retcon

[knotty zodiac]

salt bae

[tawny bough]

i think id prefer a different cut

[minor portal]

Well, you'd have to ask the director.

[tawny bough]

damn showman needs to get in on this cuz he gets his way with the director

[red briar]

is blank voucher a decent take too

[pulsar magnet]

hi everyone, i know this is a stupid question but im about to get this game and i was wondering how hard it is to understand it in order to play well

[knotty zodiac]

that one idk

[red briar]

the lack of a photograph is pissing me off

[knotty zodiac]

the principles are fairly simple but it takes some practice to apply

[tawny bough]

anywway idk what deck to do next

ah ill do abandoned, its a good deck

[red briar]

difficult to learn, even harder to master

[tawny bough]

ah idk what i do here

[red briar]

is the handy tag good to take here

or is it worth to see another shop

[knotty zodiac]

generally i dont take money skips except investment ante 1

[red briar]

fair enough

[knotty zodiac]

value of a shop is massive

[red briar]

my money isnt as good as i'd like it to be right now

but whatever

[tawny bough]

probably grabber? but it could be supernova idkk

hard choices

[knotty zodiac]

ya tough choice

[knotty zodiac]

i think supernova prob a bit more consistent. you may not find another scaling mult in the next 2 antes

[tawny bough]

pretty early on i think supernova is better

[red briar]

who deserves to die in place of blueprint

i was imagining either sly joker or juggler

[knotty zodiac]

square

[wicked finch]

square

[red briar]

oof

okay

[tawny bough]

lmao

[wicked finch]

you can get more money from rebate with juggler

[quick gate]

Which order of kings will score the most?

[wicked finch]

glass

[quick gate]

Ok

[wicked finch]

glass first

[quick gate]

This my first run i beat btw

[red briar]

paint brush obtained

[quick gate]

On a not unlock all save file

[wicked finch]

how are you on plasma then

[quick gate]

Wait

Mb

[tawny bough]

thats an insane start, ofc its on green steak and not gold lmao

[knotty zodiac]

keep going! you're about to unlock a joker or two 🙂

[quick gate]

This another svae file

[stark charm]

Hmmm discarding royal flush before winning?

[quick gate]

🙁

[eternal minnow]

You might have negative naneinf money

[knotty zodiac]

||$400|| ||ante 12||

[eternal minnow]

But have you ever gotten a #1 victory royale?

[stark charm]

Is it challenge?

[quick gate]

Wow this is dopamine overlord for me cuz this the furthest ive gotten

[eternal minnow]

Have you ever put up e chips?

[tawny bough]

ah fuck i sold i didnt read the boss blind 😭

[quick gate]

Whats that ?

[turbid nova]

Numbers with e notation
Like 1e10 = 10^10

Cuz it doesn’t fit there

[quick gate]

Ohhh

Yea no this the best ive gotten

[knotty zodiac]

punished for missing r1 clear by 1 chip

[tawny bough]

well i would like to add that its actually 1x10^10 not just 10^10 although it is equivilent giving them that example will confuse someone because 3e10 would be 3x10^10 not just 10^10

[quick gate]

Andhow do you mod balatro?

[stark charm]

Credit card in judgement in purple seal in standard pack

[red briar]

interest be booming

[eternal minnow]

Wrong channel for that question but you put the files needed in the balatro game file directory and then tell steam to use a specific launch command that targets a specific dll file

Super easy

Easier than modding minecraft imo

[quick gate]

Oh sorry idk there was a separate channel for modding

[eternal minnow]

But in vanilla balatro you can put up an e score up to e308

[quick gate]

No nane inf

[turbid nova]

I’ve never seen interest going into two lines woah

[quick gate]

🥹

[eternal minnow]

Naneinf is e308

[quick gate]

Mb

Im new

[knotty zodiac]

so we heard u like rentals

[turbid nova]

I once had a showman from judgement ante 1 and I was like I would have taken anything else
But then the next shop I opened an arcana pack and got two hermits!

That’s the one time showman has actually been useful

[knotty zodiac]

too greedy

[turbid nova]

I think I lost that game

But it was still nice to see

[knotty zodiac]

double hermit is a dream

and why magic deck awesome

[viral raft]

i guess

[red briar]

how grand of the photo to make an appearance

[tawny bough]

FINALLY MY FIRST BLOODSTONE OOPS RUN

[sand verge]

I have this power fantasy of like introducing balatro to old people

And them getting addicted its like a neat idea

But idk any old ppl

[red briar]

4m score

how do i even deckfix for photochad

[knotty zodiac]

the punishments will continue until morale improves

[red briar]

plant failure :C

[knotty zodiac]

pt 2

[red briar]

i might do a perkolator run instead

[tawny bough]

what the hell this luck is absolutely criminal

[tawny bough]

got all 6 of those busted cards within 2 antes of each other

[knotty zodiac]

proof that delgrat is better than satellite, exhibit 1

[ancient gyro]

is delgrat in the room with us

[knotty zodiac]

not in the age of adhd and dopamine sinks

[tawny bough]

this... this is what peak feels like

[knotty zodiac]

so youre telling me there's a chance

[tawny bough]

... why do i never read the fucking boss blinds

[quick gate]

Run ended💔

[tawny bough]

couldve saved me BUT EVERY SINGLE LUCKY CARD MISSED

gg

[ancient gyro]

neurotypical gameplay

[knotty zodiac]

is it correct to sell +1 grimbo for hermit value? TT

[tawny bough]

my first bloodstone run ends like this yay

[ancient gyro]

beats me

[viral raft]

Flash card should be +3 mult instead of +2

i feel like is pretty weak compared to the rest of scaling mults

[knotty zodiac]

two hermits and a supernova. so as it turns out it would have been...

[fringe nebula]

how many face econ jokers are there

uhh

midas, business, parking

oh 3

[turbid nova]

banger negative today

[knotty zodiac]

faceless

[fringe nebula]

oh true

4

that's alot

[knotty zodiac]

sad

[turbid nova]

oooohh

[fringe nebula]

replace abstract with luchador, and then replace scary face with photo

you don't really need it because you have burnt

[brave goblet]

4oakslop

Talisman op

[knotty zodiac]

LOL

[tacit stream]

4oak and flush5 level?

[knotty zodiac]

i have hope for this run

[tacit stream]

Delicious Matador econ fix into potential run-define

[knotty zodiac]

if i survive this ante i think chances are good

(matador will proc again a2)

[analog fox]

Do I drop chad for sock here?

Trying to build an intuition for these recurring mult builds

[brittle ocean]

What’s the reasoning?

My first thought is that Chad is 2 triggers of x2 while sock and buskin is 1 trigger of x2 and 1 trigger of other random face cards

So Chad is better

[analog fox]

Having a lot of poly red seals to potentially double trigger

[brittle ocean]

Ah

Oh I didn’t see the rs poly

[stone shell]

stray off sock right now, you need a few glass cards to make it worthwhile

oh wait red polys

didnt see

yeah sock is better then if you can draw em

[tacit stream]

The deck being bloated is kinda a concern for this I guess.

[brittle ocean]

Yeah the eternal stone joker is a big liability

[analog fox]

was mainly just clearing stakes but came across the conundrum in endless

Wanted to see what the marble joker hologram combo was like as well

Every time I pass it up I think "maybe with a hologram" so having 2 made the decision for me a little

[turbid nova]

oh look who decides to show up now

I wasn't gonna continue this into endless anyway

[hearty tusk]

Holy

Its a good option

However, wouldn't it lock you out of cryptid if given the chance?

[winged yacht]

Hi guys, I’m trying to complete my first gold stake run but it seems so rng. Or is it a skill issue?

[turbid nova]

deck?

[winged yacht]

Nevertheless, what are the best strategies?

Checkered

[turbid nova]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[winged yacht]

In my case, I don’t scale well enough after ante 5-6

[hearty tusk]

Jeez that was fast

"MODS! ERASE HIM!"

[fiery crescent]

behold my most cursed build to date

[vestal forge]

why does it say compatible?

[viral raft]

because is compatible with blueprint

that means that both does nothing :D

[viral raft]

basically that

[vestal forge]

how u alive bro lol

[brave goblet]

Symmetry

[viral raft]

they're just copyien each other

[fiery crescent]

It means it’s copying blueprint “compatible” = can copy

[fiery crescent]

by the skin of my teeth and no econ

[fiery crescent]

perfection, I love photochad

[mental bloom]

Darn, it's okay

[buoyant stratus]

Do I greed?
I know I shouldn't, that's not the question

The question is will i

[mental bloom]

Hmmm...

I think you have enough money

Secure the win

[buoyant stratus]

The pair of nines is almost enough btw, if I get another scoring spade I'm good

[mental bloom]

Oh, well

Perfect

Also I see Gift Card

I like it

W choice

[brave goblet]

Death imminent

[turbid nova]

Surviving ante 12 is a w on its own

[mental bloom]

Dam

[buoyant stratus]

I despise the order of this

[turbid nova]

Blueprint copium?

[buoyant stratus]

So do I risk it

[mental bloom]

Sure, gamble

Discard the ace and the 3 with it

[buoyant stratus]

Remember kids, always gamble

[mental bloom]

Umazing!!

[eager lance]

what is the best thing to sell for the hanging chad (playing 4-5 card hands)

[mental bloom]

Either arrowhead or scary face

[brave goblet]

Dis sum balala multiplayer shit

[eager lance]

alr i did scary face

im doing spades so arrowhead is better

ghost deck ante 3

black stake

[mental bloom]

Niceee

[buoyant stratus]

Wow that's photochad for ante 3 already is peak

[eager lance]

yup

[mental bloom]

Death and world will be good

Also, if you face the plant, always have a glass card or a Justice ready to use

Photochad counters the Plant

[buoyant stratus]

I thought judgment gave me another faceless for a second

[eager lance]

wait whats plant and justice lol

[mental bloom]

Damn 😭

Would've been fire

[mental bloom]

Plant completely annulates photochad effect

[eager lance]

lol

[mental bloom]

It disables all your Face Cards so they won't do anything

[eager lance]

oh that

ive lost a few runs to that its so annoying

[mental bloom]

And justice turns a card into a glass card which gives X2 Mult when scored but had a 1 in 4 chance of breaking

[mental bloom]

Yup, so always get a Justice ready

Or just don't play face cards when you have the opportunity

[eager lance]

yeah ik what glass is btw lol

[mental bloom]

Mb mb

[eager lance]

rn i have reroll voucher so its fine

[mental bloom]

Oh alr

[buoyant stratus]

Nice

[mental bloom]

Should be okay

[iron mountain]

Was today years old when i found out “photochad” wasnt just the name of hanging chad and was the name of the photograph and hanging chad combo

[mental bloom]

Still, if you reroll the plant but get the mark for example, that can get trickier

[mental bloom]

Heheheheh

Indeed

[eager lance]

true

[mental bloom]

Also, be careful of the Pillar unless you faced it already

Good luck 🫡

[brittle ocean]

Wait how did you win this

[eager lance]

yup

[eager lance]

alr thx

[buoyant stratus]

Plasma deck

And arrowhead

[brittle ocean]

Oh Im blind lol

[iron mountain]

Blind? The guy from balatro?

[mental bloom]

Man I love Judgement

[mental bloom]

Are you small or big

[brave goblet]

And dead cause idol missed lol

[iron mountain]

Or magbe a boss

[mental bloom]

I HATE IDOL SO MUCH

OMG 😭😭😭😭

[mental bloom]

Damn right, who are you

[iron mountain]

Idol always missing

[brave goblet]

There was a single 10 and a single 4 in the deck, it hit a 10

[mental bloom]

I hate Idol so much

[iron mountain]

Im abbadomon core

[brittle ocean]

I’m the fish

[mental bloom]

I used to name myself #1 Idol Hater before #1 Judgement Glazer

Tho I still hate idol

[mental bloom]

Pro

[mental bloom]

Fih

[brittle ocean]

Who doesn’t lol

[mental bloom]

Bruh ts joker so ahh 😭😭

[eager lance]

idol is so buns

[iron mountain]

Whats so good about judgement

[mental bloom]

@hasty harness

[iron mountain]

Did u know theres a joker that does that but 2 times better

[buoyant stratus]

Well that's a new one

Never seen that in a pack

[mental bloom]

Tupidest

[versed sable]

idol bad in almost every situation it's amazing

[mental bloom]

Fr

[hasty harness]

Idol best joker

[mental bloom]

Gambling at its peak

[hasty harness]

Wdym

[mental bloom]

🤧🤧

Lies btw

[hasty harness]

No lies were spoken

[iron mountain]

Riffraff gives u 2 common jokers every blind

[eager lance]

this was my best run btw. (i got up to e43 earlier with bean but i had one less blue print)
https://medal.tv/games/balatro/clips/mBPqayPynkOzMVbsf?invite=cr-MSxVVHgsMjAxMDU1Mzc3&v=38

[brisk bluff]

How much money do I need to make per round to safely reroll into serpent every ante 💀

[mental bloom]

Can Riffraff give your a rare joker, I don't think so

[mental bloom]

AYYYY

[iron mountain]

If you mod, yea

[mental bloom]

e43!

[mental bloom]

Yeah but... 😭😭

[iron mountain]

And riffraff can clutch in the early game

Especially on higher stakes

[buoyant stratus]

I love idol with checkered deck

[hasty harness]

Riffraff black deck gold stake

Is peak

[versed sable]

23 regular boss blinds at $10 each
min $10, max $450 i think

[mental bloom]

• 70% for a Common Joker
• 25% for an Uncommon Joker
• 5% for a Rare Joker

[mental bloom]

So true

Goat riffraff

[eager lance]

yup

[buoyant stratus]

Who asked?
Not trying to be mean just lost track of the conversation

[mental bloom]

Don't ask me why but Riff Raff's french name is "Racaille" which translates for you to "scum"

When it's not true

[eager lance]

how long did it take u guys to beat ur first game of balatro

[versed sable]

amazing

[mental bloom]

That was mean :<

[versed sable]

i thiiink i beat tutorial on my first actual run

[mental bloom]

I'm just stating facts, if you didn't know that

[iron mountain]

Im pretty sure i screenshotted my first balatro win

[buoyant stratus]

Oh ok

[eager lance]

didnt everyone

[buoyant stratus]

I'm sorry TwT

[mental bloom]

It's okayyyy :33

[iron mountain]

Would be weird not to right

[eager lance]

wdym "actual"

[buoyant stratus]

I didn't

[mental bloom]

Yup

[eager lance]

yeah

[buoyant stratus]

Didn't think of doing that

[versed sable]

i had done a lot of watching the game before i played
lol

[mental bloom]

Idk where I put it tho

[buoyant stratus]

All I remember is that I had DNA and got to ante 10

[eager lance]

i didnt watch any balatro vids before but i won any my second attempt

got to ante 6 on my first try (tutorial)

[eager lance]

i used shortcut and four fingers on my first win

[mental bloom]

Hold on

[buoyant stratus]

I did that for my first gold stake win

With runner

[eager lance]

noice

[woven hare]

showman locked

no baron tho, run died

did get me to unlock spectral deck though

[echo sphinx]

what we thinking

[woven hare]

summits good early

[molten thicket]

pack + faceless?

[eager lance]

this was my second win (and third game ever)

very lucky now that i look back on it

[woven hare]

what is this set my man (not jealous at all)

[eager lance]

set?

[mental bloom]

"a bit of this a bit of that" ahh

But it works I guess

[woven hare]

peak

[molten thicket]

interesting lineup

[buoyant stratus]

Oh wow
That's
Something for sure

[woven hare]

beautiful lineup

[visual niche]

wait whaaatt

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1319186615725199381/1499402144326090925/IMG_7601.png?ex=69f4aa90&is=69f35910&hm=ae3ba7191f21b6b8cb82fe133db70fed02ae2e66e43beb3f21abe8f2573ad829&

[woven hare]

i love this

[visual niche]

Cloud 9 (the joker) is a reference to George Harrison's Album lmao

[eager lance]

remember this is my third game guys lol so i barely knew anything

[eager lance]

fr

[woven hare]

yes, fuck you, no its not, how

/lh

[buoyant stratus]

Wrong

It's the other way around

[visual niche]

LMAOO

[eager lance]

ikr

[mental bloom]

Here

[woven hare]

where baseball card

[mental bloom]

I think it was one of my first runs

[echo sphinx]

took it

[eager lance]

on gold stake?

[echo sphinx]

got onyx and faceless on

[molten thicket]

awesome

[buoyant stratus]

Did death then devil accidentally

[mental bloom]

Had no idea it existed and how peak it was back then

[mental bloom]

Nah like when I started playing Balala

Wacky run

Tho easy Runner scaling

[eager lance]

oh ok

nice

[eager lance]

yea

not a bad build

[buoyant stratus]

Judgment isn't doing much this run
But it will
I believe in the judgment

[mental bloom]

I like what I'm hearing

[woven hare]

oops wrong ss

meta

[mental bloom]

Peak

[eager lance]

idk how i 1 attempted red stake, green stake, and blue stake

oo cryptid

[buoyant stratus]

Always believe in the judgment

Also 77 bucks
Ante 7
Round 17

And 4+3=7

[iron mountain]

No 777 chips on the bull

L

[woven hare]

do i squaremaxx

[iron mountain]

No 7 jokers

No 7 cards in the deck

[eager lance]

yes

[buoyant stratus]

Might just have to replace bull with luchador

[molten thicket]

hexankh the squoker

[buoyant stratus]

I'm scared of the goad

[eager lance]

so u can be the only person who has gotten that many

so do it

[woven hare]

whyd i unlock bootstraps

[woven hare]

whats the requirement

[woven hare]

liar liar pants on fire

[knotty zodiac]

✊ black deck win
🚫 🚽 weird aj straight build
🪦 no hack sticker

[mental bloom]

Hell YEAH

[buoyant stratus]

.

[buoyant stratus]

.

[pale wolf]

cropped screenshot tells all

[woven hare]

lmao

[buoyant stratus]

Do I?

[woven hare]

seriously

[molten thicket]

i wonder if you can even use showman tech in ante 8 gameplay

[buoyant stratus]

I did this run

[eager lance]

this beauty wouldn't be possible without showman

[buoyant stratus]

It was nice

Two faceless jokers
Replaced one with blueprint

[hoary moon]

descendants

[pale wolf]

endless doesnt matter though

[molten thicket]

showman tech requires so many rerolls to even do sth

[eager lance]

bro

look at how

[hoary moon]

doesnt matter to you lol

[echo sphinx]

runs past ante 8 dont exist

[eager lance]

exquisite

the symmetry

[pale wolf]

pointless samey gameplay to do something identical to a million youtube videos

[eager lance]

so beautiful

[pale wolf]

doesn't matter at large

[molten thicket]

cheesecake

[hoary moon]

pointless to you

[eager lance]

nah

but thats besides the point

[pale wolf]

endless is getting gutted next update 💛 💛

so happy for the playerbase

[molten thicket]

endless is balatro brainrot

[eager lance]

wwdym

[pale wolf]

serpent won't draw past hand size limit, chicot and bean bugs will be fixed

[eager lance]

you cant ignore the elegancy of that joker setup

@pale wolf

[pale wolf]

kills most naneinf potential

[molten thicket]

naneinf will be gutted

[pale wolf]

without serpent, endless at large is gutted for the most part

[eager lance]

yeah and even then most naneinf runs use perkeo right

[molten thicket]

no lol

[eager lance]

nah

i enjoy endless without serpent

[pale wolf]

basically forced into trib or idol, and i suspect idol will be changed to be more relevant in ante 8 and less relevant endless

or perkatory

[molten thicket]

prob not

[pale wolf]

prob not for what

[eager lance]

why this guy hating on endless 💔

[pale wolf]

thunk has expressed many times he hates idol

[molten thicket]

baronmime is just too op compred to idol trib f5

[pale wolf]

its almost certainly getting changed

[eager lance]

yeah

[pale wolf]

because of serpent

[buoyant stratus]

I'm proud of the amount of deck fixing I've done pre endless

[molten thicket]

the "forced into trib/idol" part

[eager lance]

not every endless run has to go to naneinf

[molten thicket]

even then baronmime is just too op

[pale wolf]

yes because without serpent hand size cheese baron mime doesnt go far in endless

[eager lance]

cuz of how luck based it is?

[eager lance]

cheese?

[pale wolf]

because of how useless it is in the designed portion of the game

[molten thicket]

the hardcap for idol/trib is e92-e110

[eager lance]

oh true

makes sense

[buoyant stratus]

What exactly do you mean by that

You can always get ten negative sock&buskin

[eager lance]

i wish balatro was a bit more focused on long term but that would only work if the game was made in mind with that

[iron mountain]

Hi guys and welcome back to gold stake balatro; an early bloodstone put the run in a clear direction and 2 blue seals let me level up my flush all the way to level 45, enjoy the run.

[pale wolf]

essentially yea, serpent wasnt supposed to be a benefit to the runs it appears in

[eager lance]

like up to a million score maybe/ante 10

[eager lance]

alr

[molten thicket]

are you gonna get 10 neg sock&buskins?

[carmine hollow]

Yes

[buoyant stratus]

Oh hi roffle/j

[molten thicket]

this is with the assumption that you get no insane nat negs

[iron mountain]

Well met

[carmine hollow]

/j means jimboing

[buoyant stratus]

No
But I said that as an example for how a hard cap does not exist

[buoyant stratus]

If you say so

[iron mountain]

Do yall even know why naneinf is called naneinf..

[pale wolf]

uh yea lol

[iron mountain]

I feel like a lot of players dont actually know

[molten thicket]

nan e inf

?

[carmine hollow]

Because i Jimbo J.J. called it

So

[pale wolf]

i think its explained in most videos they'd have seen it in

[iron mountain]

Yea

[carmine hollow]

That the name of my calculator

[buoyant stratus]

Yes
It's because you banan the inf

[molten thicket]

you a maizefield how corny you are

[carmine hollow]

@buoyant stratus and buskins

[iron mountain]

Its just a prejudice

[pale wolf]

exwhat me

[carmine hollow]

Where do you see corn

[iron mountain]

Say what

[unreal topaz]

the nan comes from inf/inf

the inf is log(inf)

[carmine hollow]

NotANumber

I know , because I program things

And I'm very smart fool

[unreal topaz]

balatro gets the decimal before the e by dividing your score by 10^(number of digits)

roughly

then it displays e, and then (number of digits)

[brisk bluff]

log(inf) is undefined so its nan

[unreal topaz]

not quite

log(inf) is inf

[buoyant stratus]

Do we greed again?

[unreal topaz]

but inf/(log(inf)) is inf/inf

which is nan

[brisk bluff]

?

[brave goblet]

I'm about to get beaten by the leaf

Oops wrong second screenshot

[unreal topaz]

the computer registers it as infinity

[vestal forge]

showman bruh bffr

[brave goblet]

The finisher is actually leaf

[unreal topaz]

anything above 2^1024 registers as infinity

[brisk bluff]

Yes

Undefined and infinity are 2 different things tho

[unreal topaz]

and log(inf) is inf in code

not in math

in math its properly a limit that goes to infinity

[pale wolf]

also it seems that it actually is generally accepted that log of inf → inf

outside of calculator results

[unreal topaz]

yeah, more formally the limit as x tends to inf of log(x) is inf

[brisk bluff]

Oh ok I see

[buoyant stratus]

Could've phtochaded but I didn't because I love having fun

[brave goblet]

I love idol

[buoyant stratus]

If anyone was curious like me, that's what happens

[unreal topaz]

follow up question

what if there was another luchador

and you sell both

actually luchador is blueprint compatible

so you could have tested that

[buoyant stratus]

I will asp

I love stupid balatro expirements

[pale wolf]

how would you do that if you already won

[unreal topaz]

im saying if their score was like 70k

which ig its not there

[pale wolf]

iirc you can only lucha bosses once, its not like chicot glitch

[unreal topaz]

interesting

[wintry igloo]

finally ggs green deck

[pale wolf]

else people would bring it up as an alternative to chicot glitch

[unreal topaz]

if you could luchador bosses more than once you could do ankh+luchador tech with perkeo vs manacle

which is kinda funny

[molten thicket]

it'd be way easier than chicot glitch

[pale wolf]

hard to say

[unreal topaz]

chicot glitch is different bc the chicot stays

[pale wolf]

luchador already does have a bug on manacle

[molten thicket]

wait it does?

[pale wolf]

yea i realize that's what they were referring to now

[unreal topaz]

surely its not a permanent increase tho

[pale wolf]

it isnt lol

[unreal topaz]

yeah

fair enough

[pale wolf]

its weird that it doesnt happen with chicot on manacle iirc

[molten thicket]

if it was a permanent increase ppl would've used it for their naneinf runs

[pale wolf]

could be wrong on that

[unreal topaz]

i mean its a lil hard to get 2 luchadors tbf

takes up a lot of space

[buoyant stratus]

The run's alive

[pale wolf]

heres ur clip

[unreal topaz]

cool

thank you balatro scientists

[sleek valley]

Ankh, invis, showman. Same methods of getting two of any joker

[buoyant stratus]

Never mind it isnt

[unreal topaz]

yeah ik, but usually you do that across multiple antes and a single one of the joker is useful

[calm furnace]

THE CHOICE

[buoyant stratus]

I was sure I had a few levels into high card

[pale wolf]

luchador bug

[calm furnace]

ima play it safe and sell cat 🙁

[sleek valley]

Although a joker that can clone itself would be a fun effect. The only legitimate non-mod way I know of this being possible is showman riff raff

[unreal topaz]

yeah that happens with chicot too

[buoyant stratus]

Huh?

Does it change anything permanently?

[unreal topaz]

it can't, jokers being sold dont trigger a save

[eager lance]

well thats gonna give me a lot of money

[unreal topaz]

so you cant savescum it if you tried

[unreal topaz]

the luchador would be unsold if you exited

[pale wolf]

it doesnt happen with chicot

[pale wolf]

no, just draws an extra card accidentally

[unreal topaz]

oh what? when i did my multiple chicot run i swear my cards in hand went over at first

vs manacle

[eager lance]

i didnt like ghost deck but i might have changed my mind

[buoyant stratus]

Was a fun run

[unreal topaz]

like even counting the hand size increase

it would be like 17/15 cards in hand

[pale wolf]

I think the multiple part might change it

[unreal topaz]

or whatever

[unreal topaz]

prob

[buoyant stratus]

I wish it would be turned into a voucher

[eager lance]

isnt there avoucher for that tho

or was it onlhy in booster packs

[buoyant stratus]

Only booster packs

[pale wolf]

omen globe lets spectrals in arcana packs

[buoyant stratus]

Specifically tarot

[eager lance]

yup

[buoyant stratus]

Magic deck is the only Deck other than plasma that doesn't have it's benefits as a voucher/quite literally just gives you vouchers

And plasma is too complex for a voucher

Ghost**

[eager lance]

what about green deck

oh

[pale wolf]

checkered, anaglyph, erratic, painted (thats a joker not a voucher), green deck, yellow deck ...

[eager lance]

u mean like a voucher?

[buoyant stratus]

Ok my memory is shit

[stark charm]

banana hate this guy

[eager lance]

yeah i was just about to say that lol

[pale wolf]

zodiac is all voucher tho

[eager lance]

cavendish now

atleast 🥲

[stark charm]

?

[iron mountain]

Its so shit that i just thought u misspoke what u were refering to

[iron mountain]

Vacuum chamber?

[stark charm]

sync catalyst

[eager lance]

oh i thought that was gros michel mb

lol

[iron mountain]

This seems weirdly OP cus on plasma deck the blind size is doubled

And this joker doesnt seem to have that

[rancid glade]

yeah that just adds a deck bonus to your game doesnt it

I mean then it would be fire to run ghost deck and also balance chips and mult

[pale wolf]

it's a joker slot

[stark charm]

it is power of 2

[pale wolf]

at the extreme end, yea

[iron mountain]

Its still pretty OP

[pale wolf]

truth be told it isn't

[buoyant stratus]

I'll go one by one:
Red: has a voucher
Blue: has a voucher
Yellow: if there was a voucher that gave you 10 bucks it would do nothing
Green: imo too complex to be a voucher
Black: has a voucher
Magic: is a voucher
Nebula: is a voucher
Ghost: fuck you
Abounded: doesn't make sense for a voucher to change your deck imo
Checkered: same
Zodiac: is vouchers
Painted: is a voucher
Anaglyph: closest to maybe could be a voucher but still too complex imo
Plasma: too complex+ doesn't make sense for a voucher to effect blind requirements imo
Erratic: doesn't make sense to change the deck

[stark charm]

would be balanced as epic joker

[iron mountain]

Remember that plasma deck has a drawback

This joker doesnt seem to have that

[buoyant stratus]

If one of my points is wrong I'd love to be corrected

[pale wolf]

the drawback is 2x score requirements but you just said yourself that its ^2, thats effectively no increase at the same extreme end

[woven hare]

green goblin mask

-# im tryna get satellite ignore the goofy set

[pale wolf]

it costs money, and fills a joker slot

those are downsides

[woven hare]

waos

still broken

[iron mountain]

Almost every base joker has those downsides

So then its not a downside anymore

[woven hare]

no shit

[pale wolf]

yes, and they are downsides for every joker??? lmfao

[pale wolf]

tf lol

[cosmic sun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/s/pKupzGCtBr

[pale wolf]

wacky mod effects

[cosmic sun]

😂

[stark charm]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Cryptid/Sync_Catalyst

[pale wolf]

aah, not surprised its been thought of before

its not a super innovative idea

[stark charm]

definitely not that good in cryptid though

can help with your score quite a bit early on

other than that it kinda meh

[ebon condor]

thaas crazy

[iron mountain]

And this drawback isnt there for that joker

So vacuum is basically a joker that does chip score ^2

Thats pretty OP if u ask me

[stark charm]

its upper limit is actually ^2/4

[pale wolf]

did you miss the second half of the message 🦓
it isnt close to ^2 except at an extreme end of scoring, the same situations that in plasma's drawback matters the least

[ebon condor]

tbf its still p strong

[pale wolf]

its strong, yea, its a beneficial rare joker

[ebon condor]

idk i think plasma's fine being unique

i dont think the deck gimmick needs to also be a joker

but if it was it wouldn't be game breaking or anything

[stark charm]

did you miss that

long ass message

[iron mountain]

Pretty uncreative.. and besides why play plasma deck when theres a joker around thats just the plasma deck but better

[pale wolf]

i think it would be an interesting avenue to be able to take on other decks

[iron mountain]

With the benefits of the deck ur playing at that moment

[ebon condor]

i just got here so

[pale wolf]

plasma deck but -1 joker slot isnt plasma deck but better

[viral raft]

LET'S GOOOO

[pale wolf]

thats worse

[pale wolf]

ope lemme go

[royal shale]

but also you don't deal with double blind size

[eager lance]

if only this business card wasn't eternal

[royal shale]

(if I'm seeing this right its just the balance effect, might not have been, if so sowwy)

[viral raft]

is this photochad + baron??

[iron mountain]

First of all, negatives.. second of all, once again its not a specific downside to nerf that specific joker because almost every single joker is locked behind a paywall and takes up a joker slot

[molten thicket]

why did you take baron

[iron mountain]

What type of deck fixing r u doing

[pale wolf]

no you're right, and it would be easier than plasma deck in the first half of the run (not that you're guaranteed to find this joker early)

[stark charm]

bro take eternal baron to brick his slot

[eager lance]

uh yeah lol

[eager lance]

why not

[eager lance]

wdym

[molten thicket]

no im saying why

what reason

[eager lance]

ill prlly pivot to miime

[iron mountain]

Nvm.. but as they said whyd u take baron

[eager lance]

@molten thicket

[woven hare]

why baron

[iron mountain]

Baron doesnt synerge well with photochad

[viral raft]

i meam...the eternal business destroys the idea of playing baron mime kinda

[molten thicket]

why business then

[eager lance]

cuz that was like the first joker i got in the game

[molten thicket]

if you got business and photochad just run photochad

[scenic sigil]

Show us the deck

[slim swift]

man

[scenic sigil]

and your hand levels

[viral raft]

so why did you buy baron if you knew that the only way was playing faces retrigger builds?

[iron mountain]

Also what mod did u use to make brainstorm (and maybe blueprint if its the same mod) literally copy the appearance of the joker

[pale wolf]

cavendish is in a similar state where picking it up will always improve your scoring

[iron mountain]

@eager lance

[viral raft]

"Blueprint" mod is the name

[scenic sigil]

17/56 hmmm

[eager lance]

yup everyone keep pinging me (nice!!)

[pale wolf]

perhaps vacuum chamber would need some kind of prerequisite to appear in a run, then

[molten thicket]

...

[eager lance]

uh

[iron mountain]

Thought it only did that for blueprint

[eager lance]

lemme ccheck the name

[molten thicket]

you make very choicing choices

[iron mountain]

Uncreative name

[eager lance]

oh ok

[bitter meadow]

baron, mimic, red seal,

[scenic sigil]

if you had more high card levels you could keep doing baron

[iron mountain]

Lot of mod names are really uncreative

Is that a hot take or…

[scenic sigil]

well it's permanent so just keep going for it

[eager lance]

sometimes experimenting is nice 👍

[bitter meadow]

try yahimod, its gacor

[royal shale]

it at least is like Soul where its incredibly rare, Balance does have an innate downside (forcing hard speccing into mult/chips to get the most out of it) but that downside is miniscule compared to the upsides

[viral raft]

yeah i thought the same but actually changes both

[pale wolf]

i dont know of any balatro QOL mods that dont use an existing ingame term

[eager lance]

wdym

[viral raft]

true, most of them are literally just a card/thingy on the game and they just added the name on it (Cryptid,Handy,Blueprint,Saturn, ankh etc)

[iron mountain]

Theres probably some that I missed, and i also skipped names that did actually have smth to do with that joker

[eager lance]

lmao

[viral raft]

if you have a eternal business card, buying a baron isn't a bad idea?

[eager lance]

just experimmenting

[molten thicket]

is*

[viral raft]

i see

[pale wolf]

like not even one

[iron mountain]

Jokerdisplay

[viral raft]

Joker display?

i mean theres not a ingame thing with the "joker display" name

[pale wolf]

even handy mod, which i thought was just a neat name, i realized was actually referring to the tag

[iron mountain]

Amazing QOL mod btw

[eager lance]

why did i ectoplasm lol

[iron mountain]

Missed that one too

[pale wolf]

im surprised joker display isnt called Misprint or something stupid

[pale wolf]

but it does use an ingame term so it doesnt count

[molten thicket]

wait you ECTOED THAT CHAD??

[iron mountain]

Ik but i mean in my list

[eager lance]

oh yeah

[pale wolf]

ooh

[eager lance]

uhh

[molten thicket]

...

deadweight baron

[iron mountain]

Ecto is random, no?

[molten thicket]

just play flush5

you're dead anyways

[molten thicket]

it is

[eager lance]

its ok i already got the dream photochad run before

this one is funny

[pale wolf]

anyways balatrodle spoiler in 2

[iron mountain]

Wordle but balatro? 😭

[spark kernel]

Barely any hearts

[pale wolf]

sub-optimal copying

[iron mountain]

Hanginghanginghangingprintgraphgraph

[eager lance]

how

[pale wolf]

by lying

[eager lance]

😭

[iron mountain]

“Suboptimal” for a deck that only has 1 non-copying joker is crazy

[pale wolf]

yea i was making a joke

[iron mountain]

Same

[versed sable]

true

[eager lance]

this build was so fun

3 spectrals every hand

[versed sable]

seance

[molten thicket]

im crine balatrodle in 5

[iron mountain]

Didnt copy polychrome jolly joker so its an auto 1/10 joker setup

[versed sable]

seance my goat

[eager lance]

fr

such a fun card

[eager lance]

especially with decks like checkered

[stark charm]

straight flush slop

[versed sable]

bean runs with seance,, <3

[molten thicket]

i thought if it was +chips and i guessed +mult it would turn yellow

[eager lance]

bro what

[stark charm]

seance glazer when sixth sense exist

[pale wolf]

nope

[eager lance]

seance is cooler

[molten thicket]

yeah so i was stumped for like 10mins 😭

[pale wolf]

+mult and xmult are close, and +mult+chip is close to everything scoring

[versed sable]

sixth sense enjoyer when they need 9 ectoplasms but can only get one spectral per round

[eager lance]

why would u need 9 ectoplasms lol

[versed sable]

for nine negatives

[stark charm]

seance enjoyer when their build dont even go far enough to need ectoplasm

[eager lance]

why would u need 9 negatives

[pale wolf]

only way to naneinf with trib

[versed sable]

clearly not using seance at the right time

[eager lance]

damn

nice

[versed sable]

seance is not for the casual player

[eager lance]

i love doing royal fllush build consistently

its also so satisfying when the fire appears before u even play ur hand

[versed sable]

this is how you seance deck

[eager lance]

when the score requirement is high

[eager lance]

wtf

this guy is next level

teach me ur ways lol

[versed sable]

this is how you ante 38 deck

[eager lance]

how do u have that many cards

funny this came up while we were talking about it

[stark charm]

embodiment of greed

[molten thicket]

how did you afford to take so many colas

[versed sable]

magic trick and seance mostly

[eager lance]

keeps coming

[stark charm]

skip for redcard value

[versed sable]

Was rerolling for other stuff and found them anyway

[eager lance]

how do u have 7 hands

[iron mountain]

I find it funny that blueprint is compatible with cola

[versed sable]

and 12 copying jokers

[eager lance]

nice

[iron mountain]

How tf u got 4.2 million coins

[versed sable]

[eager lance]

i think this was from a seance run

that one queen of clubs 😭

[versed sable]

emotional support

[iron mountain]

Watch idol hit the queen of clubs

[eager lance]

@versed sable half the time when i get a spectral from seance it just feels useless

i need to learn how to use all of them well

[versed sable]

smh,,

ah yes

[iron mountain]

Feel like seance should make negative spectrals

The concept of negative consumables is really underutilized in balatro

[iron mountain]

Only thing that can create them from my knowledge is Perkeo

[fading solar]

10 of spades erratic

[eager lance]

oooo thats a good way to buff it