🕹・game-discussion

[marble hound]

yeah

[turbid nova]

but with abstract it's not a "condition", it's just a state of the game

[echo sphinx]

and stencil by association

[flat tiger]

chicken is a slow AF scaling joker

[marble hound]

Are we gonna count econ jokers as scaling jokers

[turbid nova]

egg?

[marble hound]

Any instance of a number going up is scaling right

[turbid nova]

and rocket?

[echo sphinx]

if its a Satellite

[cloud sinew]

some of them yes; satellite, cloud 9...

[flat tiger]

if can be scaling with the right set up but not normally

[stark charm]

but +mult gain is increasing

[marble hound]

So are we only counting points getting as scaling then or what

[noble mango]

didn't satelite got a cap

[cloud sinew]

no

[turbid nova]

for example I don't count erosion

[noble mango]

while scaling means like infinite sacling

[echo sphinx]

yes but the definition is just "number go up"

[cloud sinew]

does it?

[unreal topaz]

so stuff like business card would be scaling in the same way hit the road or shoot the moon are

[echo sphinx]

so it will count under that rule

[marble hound]

No erosion is definitely a scaler

[turbid nova]

no

[marble hound]

I mean

The thing is arguably you could say something like Baron scales up based on how many kings you have

[unreal topaz]

yeah, if abstract is one erosion def is one

[turbid nova]

it's a state of the game it's not a condition that's activating
hologram triggers when you add cards, nothing happens to it if you delete them

[marble hound]

But the card itself isn't scaling

[turbid nova]

exactly

[echo sphinx]

we're back to degeneracy

[unreal topaz]

that's a practical way to view them

[marble hound]

Baron is still X2 regardless of how many kings you have

[stark charm]

defitnition is so loose

[unreal topaz]

this stuff is more semantics

[marble hound]

It's just that it's doing X2 over and over

[cloud sinew]

So are you saying that ride the bus and green joker arent scaling

[turbid nova]

1.5

[cloud sinew]

1.5x

[marble hound]

Whatever

[turbid nova]

no because they trigger each time you play a hand

they count

[cloud sinew]

but they also decrease/reset

[turbid nova]

doesn't matter

[stark charm]

baron is ass

[flat tiger]

why are we pretending to not understand

[marble hound]

What

[turbid nova]

hang on I'm making a tierlist

[stark charm]

someone do jokerless goldstake

[frank grove]

oh god

[unreal topaz]

seems more so about them stacking up permanent value

[echo sphinx]

"photochad scales exponentially with the number of photo and chads"

[marble hound]

I mean can we agree on jokers that don't scale

[cloud sinew]

but it isnt permanent value

[stark charm]

pffft

[frank grove]

yeah both green and bus can have they're values lowered/reset

[cloud sinew]

erosion isnt permanent, nor is HTR or bus or green or campfire

[stark charm]

what joker doesnt scale with number??

[flat tiger]

stuff like golden joker?

[echo sphinx]

i like this definition

[marble hound]

Yeah golden joker doesn't scale

[stark charm]

you get more money... i think there is definitely is one that is useless

[cloud sinew]

passive effects that dont stack in any way are definitely not scaling;
Showman, Shortcut, 4 Fingers, Smeared, etc

[echo sphinx]

its so damn perfect

[marble hound]

Obviously stuff like DNA doesn't scale

[stark charm]

useless as duplicate

[marble hound]

Okay how about this
Hitchhiker

[cloud sinew]

Hiker

[marble hound]

Fuck man I haven't played this game in a while lmao

[stark charm]

hiker scale your card is it scaling joker??

[shell dagger]

yea

[frank grove]

is supernova not scaling now cause it doesnt display the value?

[marble hound]

I mean the thing is
Technically it's the cards that are scaling not the joker

[unreal topaz]

this is all semantics, the practical view is to just view anything that gets better and better over time as scaling

[stark charm]

i am crine

[echo sphinx]

hiker is a joker that scales [the chip payout], real

[flat tiger]

like I said, why are we pretending to not understand

[marble hound]

Your number of hands played does

[cloud sinew]

the value on the joker doesnt change but the mult it gives does change

[unreal topaz]

and if its too slow dont consider buying it

[frank grove]

i know this

[echo sphinx]

me when i get a straight and a flush with four fingers

[frank grove]

i was making a joke 😭

[marble hound]

Fair fair

[stark charm]

eternal seance is scaling joker actually

[crystal topaz]

I feel like undervalueing planet cards this run, but what's the play here?

[echo sphinx]

droll joker scales with the number of drolls

[stark charm]

you can get anhk and ecto that duplicate seance

[fringe nebula]

I lost it

[flat tiger]

what are we still pretending to not understand? are we gonna go "any scoring allow you to win faster for more money to buy anything"

[stark charm]

and get more anhk and ecto

[stark charm]

correct

except showman

[echo sphinx]

150 jokers fit this definition

[cloud sinew]

we arent "pretending" to not understand, we're figuring out what the bounds of the definition are because it's not well defined

[unreal topaz]

the play is keep making a bunch of money and growing flash card and square

[flat tiger]

it allows you to get double mime for more money and gold so you can buy anything

[crystal topaz]

Is this voucher ever worth it btw?

[stark charm]

hmmm

[crystal topaz]

So just play 4 hand cards and reroll the shop?

[cloud sinew]

Quite often, yes

[unreal topaz]

yeah, also buy every booster pack ofc

[flat tiger]

if we want to play this pretending game nothing matters

[stark charm]

is the devil scaling tarot card because you get more money to buy more devil?

[crystal topaz]

Ooh alright (that's info I didn't know thanks)

[noble mango]

so does anybody here do art

[flat tiger]

yeah if we want to paly this game every joker is scoring and every joker is econ

but we want to pretend we dont know

[frank grove]

im confused on the point here?

[cloud sinew]

define what an econ joker is then

[crystal topaz]

What are the good tarot cards to look out for?

[stark charm]

it is funny?

[stark charm]

devil

death

[frank grove]

are we trying to define terms like what a scaling or econ joker are?

[stark charm]

hanged man

hermit

[echo sphinx]

i liked nick's definition

"scaling jokers should increase by a set amount each time their condition is activated"

[pine swift]

13 antes and not a single negative skip. Not a single econ joker. No baron no idol. What was this run.

[stark charm]

temperance

[crystal topaz]

I feel like this might be a skip or do I make a glass card?

[flat tiger]

jokers that gives you money or tarot or planet instead of direct scoring? mayb not planet

[echo sphinx]

with this definition i can clearly say
"erosion is a scaling joker, mime is not"

[pine swift]

No brainstorm no blueprint too

[crystal topaz]

The other 2 are change cards to [suit]

But I'm not doing flushes this run so I don't think that's worth it

[cloud sinew]

Which means you wouldnt consider midas to be econ

[frank grove]

what is stm under this definition?

[echo sphinx]

its not

[stark charm]

glass card is great

[flat tiger]

you want money you take midas, we all know that but sure

[echo sphinx]

payout per queen is constant

[cloud sinew]

I'm saying your definition isnt consistent if it doesnt apply in all cases where you consider something to be econ

[crystal topaz]

Any specific card I should make a glass card?

[echo sphinx]

ill try and defend this definition by keeping the examples consistant

[noble mango]

2

[flat tiger]

yeah, money give you money o buy scoring scoring let you win faster for money to buy more stuff, so everything is everything sure

[stark charm]

2

eat 2

[echo sphinx]

2

[noble mango]

unless ur going for wee

6 for six sense

7 has no real use ig

6 or 7 if you are going for wee

[echo sphinx]

The Family is a scaling joker because it lets you earn more $ from hands

[noble mango]

nine is cloud nine

[cloud sinew]

You said that people are pretending to not know what econ is, but even you can't make a consistent definition.

[noble mango]

and few strenght into fac

[stark charm]

I usually just glass 2 because it gives least chips it usually doesn't matter much which one you glass without a joker requiring those card

Or specific hand

[shell dagger]

If you’re using glass to get rid of a card then the queen is best

[echo sphinx]

this guy hates queens

[fringe nebula]

gold stake run using a deck of your choice. choose 1

[shell dagger]

It’s easiest to throw away in a high card while playing 5 cards

[echo sphinx]

checkered

[stark charm]

Blue

[fringe nebula]

ok

[flat tiger]

they are ptending just to argue about nothing, midas is a econ joker it is clear to me

[echo sphinx]

i love me a scorable earlygame

[crystal topaz]

This feels like it's very good?

[shell dagger]

Yes

[stark charm]

Yep

[echo sphinx]

ye id take that

abstract rip

[flat tiger]

sell delay

[turbid nova]

is it scaling? the tierlist

idk if the conversation died already

[crystal topaz]

We take out abstract for this?

[stark charm]

Time to kill abstract

[crystal topaz]

Alright

Wait that makes a lot of sense actually

[fringe nebula]

sure I'll take jimbo

[turbid nova]

I'm leaning towards the 4 on "not sure" counting

[flat tiger]

jimbo lets you stay at $5

[echo sphinx]

id snap sell if the flash card has a good amount of +mult

[shell dagger]

Fist could be considered scaling

[frank grove]

bean is negative scaling for sure

[stark charm]

Pair slop in flush deck , how depressing is that??

[turbid nova]

if anything it goes on the "depends on a static variable"

[frank grove]

so can stm

[shell dagger]

Isn’t static variable an oxymoron

[stark charm]

Have you ever declared constant int?

[fringe nebula]

even better

[crystal topaz]

Not yet but it's getting there and it's more then enough to survive

[shell dagger]

Idk what that means

[stark charm]

const int mod=1e9+7

[echo sphinx]

the jokers that aren't scaling are most definitely aren't scaling
id put bean up to neg
erosion is with bus methink

[crystal topaz]

Rocket on ante 5 isn't exactly the play anymore is it lmao

[echo sphinx]

all tihngs cosnidered nick put together a good list

[stark charm]

Funnily enough static variable isn't actually static...

[echo sphinx]

what with "The Family is a scaling joker" nonsense

[turbid nova]

actually if I wanna be consistent I should remove steel

and stone

[flat tiger]

is erosion the only "scaling" that has a ceiling

[echo sphinx]

nah lump them with Bus

[turbid nova]

satellite if you count it

but I don't count either of them

actually...

nah idk

[flat tiger]

guess banner too

[shell dagger]

Egg and throwback unless you count sans

[shell dagger]

Merry andys are unbounded

Oops double ping

[echo sphinx]

lol real

tho u can just copy drunkard

[turbid nova]

sans

[frank grove]

rocket has a ceiling too

[turbid nova]

ante 39

[echo sphinx]

at 79 dollars mmmmmm

[shell dagger]

83

[flat tiger]

i mean you cant "beat" ante 39, its not exactly because rocket cannot go higher

[shell dagger]

heiro petro

[echo sphinx]

oh right forgot the glyths

[turbid nova]

the thing all of these have in common (except supernova) is that when you trigger their condition you see the joker go like "+ something"

[echo sphinx]

rocket cannot go higher
THATS WHAT CEILING MEANS

[flat tiger]

so madness too then

[echo sphinx]

yes

[frank grove]

yeah

[flat tiger]

everything has ceiling because you cant beat ante 39

[shell dagger]

not everything scales a flat amount per ante tho

like bus

[crystal topaz]

Worth?

[shell dagger]

there’s no limit to how many burglars you have

[flat tiger]

you still cant beat ante 39 so theres only a limited amount of hands you can play

[echo sphinx]

yeah sure just destroy everything lol

i dont care one bit

[shell dagger]

there’s no limit to how many burglars you have…

[turbid nova]

everything has a ceiling because of the limits of 64 bit numbers

[shell dagger]

yeah that’s tru but im choosing to ignore it

[turbid nova]

that's why naneinf exists

[shell dagger]

bc otherwise the discussion isn’t interesting bc everything technically has a limit

[echo sphinx]

banner naneinf :thonk:

[turbid nova]

just get unlimited drunkards

[shell dagger]

even red card isn’t capped bc double tags exist

[frank grove]

yeah

does dagger have a limit? it only destroys one joker a round

its a big limit but there is only so many times it can trigger

[shell dagger]

no limit to the number of gift cards you have

[echo sphinx]

what if theres like a bajillion gift cards

this convo is so dumb lol

bajillion gift cards?

just do a joker (jimbo) naneinf

[flat tiger]

naneinf number of jokers/consumables

neneinf number of 9s for neneinf amount of money per round

[noble latch]

bruh. any tips?

[echo sphinx]

nope

[noble latch]

what am i doing wrong?

[echo sphinx]

nothing

[shell dagger]

scaling xmult jokers (especially throwback) don’t perform well in endless, you did nothing wrong

[echo sphinx]

runs past ante 8 dont exist

[noble latch]

thanks man

[noble latch]

oh really?

[echo sphinx]

ye

[shell dagger]

not exactly, but there is much less strat diversity after ante 8

[flat tiger]

xmult dont let you surive too long in endless anyway, you need on trigger xmult

[shell dagger]

a lot of people here just don’t bother

[noble latch]

i was also doing this on a blue deck while i havent even finished red deck

[echo sphinx]

after ante 8 u unlock whatever the next stake is or deck or challenges and whatnot

after ante 8 is just "have fun scoring"

[flat tiger]

you get to hear as many dings as you can, then you die

[fringe nebula]

about that

[echo sphinx]

flush deck is meant to be pairslopped cuz flush sucks ass

[reef shadow]

Haha 2 of a kind

[crystal topaz]

Hmm this is difficult

[echo sphinx]

real

[flat tiger]

GAMBLE TIME

[crystal topaz]

I genuinely don't know what the play is here haha

[echo sphinx]

idk i would hang whatever has least rank

or u could. gamba the judgement

[flat tiger]

i would sell delay for judgment in a heart beat

[crystal topaz]

I mean gamba is kinda fun

But if it doesn't hit I'm left without econ

[flat tiger]

delay is one of the worse econ anyway

[echo sphinx]

still ecno

BRO HAS FIVE DISCARDS AND U CALL IT WORSE

[flat tiger]

delay so bad I rather run without it

[crystal topaz]

It's been earning me 8 every single round lmao

[echo sphinx]

what is gambling if theres no stakes to lose

[crystal topaz]

True

We're playing gambling game anyway

Wait I have 5 discards now

[echo sphinx]

yeah its TEN

bro is TWEAKING

[crystal topaz]

So delay got better

[crystal topaz]

I forgot I bought that voucher

[echo sphinx]

holy recyclomancy

what did u end up picking

[crystal topaz]

I got banana

[flat tiger]

maybe he sold square

[crystal topaz]

I gamba'd delay

[echo sphinx]

lol

[echo sphinx]

im gonna sob if this is true

[crystal topaz]

No no

I gambled delay

Wait I can use my discards in peace now

[echo sphinx]

ye

[fringe nebula]

gold stake run using a deck of your choice. choose 1

[echo sphinx]

holy 110 grimbo with burglar

insane run

[crystal topaz]

Wouldn't that also go insane with delay? Or like synergize well atleast

[fringe nebula]

no response? do i wheelspin?

[echo sphinx]

idk i wanted someone else to respond

[fringe nebula]

won't work

[echo sphinx]

nope, delay needs discards to cashout

[fringe nebula]

delgrat will give money depends on how many discards you have

[echo sphinx]

why is it so restrictive

[flat tiger]

delay + bulguar = crash out

[fringe nebula]

that's why delgrat merry andy is a thing

[echo sphinx]

inflation challenge

yes. w h i t e s t a k e

[woven spire]

ghost all day

wait i’m dumb

[fringe nebula]

ok

ghost it is

[crystal topaz]

Ooh wait you have 0 discards? How do you have 0 discard?

Is that one of the other jokers?

[echo sphinx]

burglar takes out the discards

[crystal topaz]

Ahhhh

Checks out

Made it to ante 8 let's see if I can finish it

I just scored 75k on the first hand of the big blind on ante 8

LOL

[digital pewter]

BALATRODLE SPOILERS

||if this is what i think it is... a scaling, non xmult/+mult joker...||

||it was not what i thought it was lmao||

ok i got it in 4 guesses not bad

[crystal topaz]

Well thanks for the help y'all I completed red stake :)

[digital pewter]

woohoo!

[crystal topaz]

Square early on was really good

[flat tiger]

not the best thing but it gets the job done

[digital pewter]

and now it's onto the dastardly green stake

[crystal topaz]

That looks like it's gonna be pain

[digital pewter]

trust me the stake effects get funky

[crystal topaz]

I don't doubt it

[flat tiger]

stake increase didnt really affected me that much, in fact the thing that got me the longest to adapt to is the no small blind money

[turbid nova]

blue stake 💀

[crystal topaz]

Idk I cleared white stake really fast early on

And red stake was a bit of a struggle

[flat tiger]

yeah exactly

[crystal topaz]

So that's where I asked for some help and now I learned a lot from that run haha

[flat tiger]

the stake itself really only got me on red stake, after that its not the stakes that got me

[crystal topaz]

Do you ever just gamba bafoon pack after first round?

[buoyant stratus]

its always photochad

[cloud sinew]

a constant is by definition not a variable

[crystal topaz]

photograph only is good if you have high base multi's no?

[flat tiger]

no, it need base mult and retrigger

[crystal topaz]

ahh fair

so very bad early game

[flat tiger]

enough for ante 1 and then it does next to nothing for a long while on its own

[crystal topaz]

i am now on ante 2 with 0 jokers and idk what to do hahaha

i'll just get even steven

i just got polychrome reserved parking

that can all of a sudden become very good this run

[cloud sinew]

petroglyph's unlock condition should be reworked so you dont have to go into endless

maybe "reach round 27"

[crystal topaz]

hmm

I am struggling this round haha

do i go for a lucky red seal or a purple gold card

[cloud sinew]

purple gold

[crystal topaz]

okay rip

but this new run

i have double tag on small blind

and investment tag on big blind

ante 1

and then in boss fight i got a straight flush

[desert tinsel]

why?

[cloud sinew]

so that endless isnt required for anything

[desert tinsel]

i suppose that makes sense but i feel like nearly everyone has had a run that they wanna see how far it goes

[iron mountain]

Petroglyph should totally just have a secret 3rd evolution that requires you to get naneinf

[sage brook]

do i take the idol for the dusk here? It's basically another trib- deck is totally fixed

[mortal nimbus]

I don't think it actually matters due to the versatility of blueprint

assuming red seal glass, you have minimum 4 triggers of cards, with minimum 2 instances of 2x mult, 4 instances with both blueprints on trib.

that's already optimal

swapping dusk for idol just forces you to move a blueprint from trib to sock

I guess you can save time by not needing to burn hands

[sage brook]

Hmmmmmmm. I see. So optimally i'd want 2 retriggers and 3 trib/idol

[noble ermine]

yeah the cards already trigger once, so 3*3=9 for the most effective doubles with five jokers

[sage brook]

Tho All my cards are red seal luckies for now- since I dont need glass to beat the blinds. And i dont wanna break them so soon T_T

Idt it matters

Thanks for the help ❤️

[glad scroll]

Hmm
Can someone please give me chicot?

[mortal nimbus]

[sage brook]

4/6 souls in the last week have given me chicot

One Rick and this nat negative trib

Aha

[glad scroll]

Well so far i think i got like 7 souls ever and i havent gotten chicot even once

[sage brook]

T_T

[glad scroll]

Thanks
How do i put him into my collection

[glad scroll]

Literary last card for full collection

[cloud sinew]

ask him nicely

[sage brook]

Dw. You are not missing out on much, except the collector achievement

[noble ermine]

if we're including red seal retriggers they trigger three times minimum, you'd want at least three multipliers as well, then it doesn't really matter if you have another retrigger or another doubling in that last joker slot idk

[glad scroll]

Well i am missing it

[glad scroll]

Okay

[noble ermine]

really you need a negative brainstorm ;^)

[sage brook]

Havent seen a single one of them in what- 14 antes

[noble ermine]

damn

[sage brook]

Also painted deck- so no ectos

T_T

I have been trying to hit an unseeded naninf. And I havent gotten a single perkeo.

[deft sandal]

HOLY SHITTT i just got a nat negative photograph from a judgement

[sage brook]

And When I try for the baron one with burglar, I never get enough copy jokers

[sage brook]

Demn

[turbid nova]

even if I could afford it it's gonna break

so sad

at least there's a chariot

[sage brook]

Sadge

[deft sandal]

from this judgement

holy shit

[turbid nova]

damn

[sage brook]

how do I push this lineup after ante 16- like what else could I be wishing for- except a nat negative brainstorm

maybe a spectral pack into an ecto- into a showman- intp another sock or bp

?

[turbid nova]

chat is the mail guaranteed to die

or can madness target one of the eternals and nothing happens

[fringe nebula]

mail will die

[turbid nova]

alr thx I'll just sell it then

I HIT WHEEL TWICE IN A ROW

[deft sandal]

i love my vagabussy

[carmine hollow]

Ass idea

Free reroll is better

[turbid nova]

chaos is gonna die next round

I only picked it up because this shop's bufoon pack had no eternals

[carmine hollow]

Cool

Help me

Wait wrong game

[sage brook]

Update:

1. got omen globe
2. Got 2 ectos in 2 consecutive arcane packs
3. Got invis
4. ante 16 boss is to sell a joker- got NAT NEGATIVE JIMBO for rescue

[turbid nova]

alright blue stake done

this run lowkey got saved by a buffoon skip

I was struggling to score beforehand

[sage brook]

Update- Invis gave brainstorm

[crystal topaz]

do yall buy the bafoon pack from the first shop or nah?

[gloomy urchin]

i dont have a dejavu yet

[cloud sinew]

usually, yeah

[crystal topaz]

so unless there's a better option i should get it?

[gloomy urchin]

aiming for naneinf btw

[stark acorn]

heavily depends on the first joker you get in the shop

[crystal topaz]

Here I probably get the pack?

[vocal rose]

depends on the boss blind

or what to do list is on

[crystal topaz]

-1 hand size

[crystal topaz]

straight flush haha

[vocal rose]

and what is to do list on

okay take the pack lol

[sage brook]

Yep Pack lol

[crystal topaz]

banner

or create tarot when ace high straight

(don't have it discovered so don't know the name

probably banner right?

[sage brook]

Superposition

Dont

You will die trying to make it work- atleast I do T_T

[crystal topaz]

that's what i figured

[noble mango]

Bufoon pack so what

[crystal topaz]

banner can help me through early game

now i have square :D

[noble mango]

The first shop route is 95% taking the bufoon pack

[crystal topaz]

that's good to know

[sage brook]

More in gold stake T_T

[noble mango]

Unless yellow deck

[crystal topaz]

i'm playing red deck rn

[sage brook]

I dont want an eternal rental sly

[crystal topaz]

Hologram feels good?

[noble mango]

Well most of the time the bufoon pack is taken

At least in my runs

[noble mango]

Heck yes

[waxen fable]

yes

[crystal topaz]

i also took raised fist next to it as well

[gloomy urchin]

crazy natneg jokers

[noble mango]

Arcana?

[crystal topaz]

didn't give anything good

[noble mango]

i see

[gloomy urchin]

sold my photograph for the same thing

[crystal topaz]

is smiley a solid joker for early game or am i overestimating it?

[safe flower]

G fucking g, new gold stake high score (non plasma)

[south monolith]

Good morning joker poker enjoyers

[unreal topaz]

both hologram and fist yeah

fist solves the immediate problem and hologram solves your long term problems

[crystal topaz]

yeah i died not much later anyway haha

[unreal topaz]

most +mult is gonna be solid anyway as long as it isnt too unreliable

smiley aint bad

[cloud sinew]

I used 2 ectos this run lol

[crystal topaz]

Ig we're not using discards this run

[turbid nova]

There’s already a lot of stuff going for face cards so it’s a nice bonus

[waxen fable]

yes

[vocal rose]

its decent early

[ancient gyro]

safe pre a4

[gaunt burrow]

i heard somewhere , that the wild enchantments will get some changes, dk if this true

[unreal topaz]

@ localthunk you heard of this?

[cloud sinew]

they are being buffed +/ reworked in 1.1

[crystal topaz]

Buffoon or scary face after round 1?

[cloud sinew]

i would take scary face

[gaunt burrow]

dont know how would it be buff or reworked

worst vampire ever

zodiac deck is done, only black deck left

[fringe nebula]

gold stake run using a deck of your choice. choose 1

[brave fox]

Im a fuggin idiot yall I sold my smeared joker and botched my canio flower pot run

[fringe nebula]

very well

[gaunt burrow]

i forgot i was on black deck

and sold one of my joker to have more a space for another joker

[brave fox]

Thats exactly what I did lol

[gaunt burrow]

and i forgot i having ramen

[brave fox]

Its good to know that smeared joker makes flower pot easier to pull off tho, i gotta try that again soon

[carmine hollow]

So there is my bullshit "super tarot" cards
Super fool can copy dpectral as well as what he did before, including black hole excluding soul
Sun Moon World and stars can change up to 5 cards
Super magician do what it did but also has 1 in 4 chance to put
Super Wheel of fortune can also apply negative but not foil
Judgement create enchenced joker
Temperance increase sellvalue of everyjoker by 1 and do what it did
Death the same but now with 2 cards changed
Hanged man destroy up to 5 cards which is possible max
Stretgh decrease 2 cards , seems weak but would be nice to have en option
Justice is same but 1 in 4 chance to add polychrome
Emperor has 1 in 3 chance to create negative copy of itself
Empress and hierophant change evrry unenchented card
The devil add gold mark if there none

[carmine hollow]

Noone cares dude

[gaunt burrow]

i cant see lover

[carmine hollow]

Oh yeah

I don't know what it can do

[brave fox]

A super lover I guess could turn a card into a wild card, becomes all suits and ranks

But that would be pretty weird for scoring

[tacit stream]

super lover: convert the whole deck into wild cards.
(Still a bad tarot)

[brave fox]

Lmao or atleast the hole hand like ouija or something

[waxen fable]

so just the debuff challenge

[waxen fable]

maybe its because i dont understand one thing at all

or idk what point are u tryna make

[carmine hollow]

Idunno, super versions of tarot cards

[carmine hollow]

Fire

Everything i want is to wild cards to affected by every single type debuff

[turbid nova]

ante 1 runner is so goated

[gaunt burrow]

all cards held in hand would be more fitting

[buoyant stratus]

I'm bored and can't play balatro right now

So I'm having a run in my head

I need help

[cloud sinew]

balatro on yo phone

[buoyant stratus]

Uhh

Not paying money to play the game I already bought

[cloud sinew]

something something balatromobilemaker cough cough

[buoyant stratus]

Thank you trans person on my phone

Maybe this thing will manage to run

[gaunt burrow]

i have a pretty silly idea for a joker
mosaic art
retrigger every wild card

[turbid nova]

yay 10 more chips

[buoyant stratus]

Ancient joker will be happy

[turbid nova]

it could work well with ancient yeah

[buoyant stratus]

But no much else

[cloud sinew]

seems too niche

[icy hollow]

A couple blue seals... lol

Ante 5

[buoyant stratus]

Ig it's a way to retrigger non 1-5/face cards

[cloud sinew]

wilds for on-score effects means youre vulnerable to 4 boss blinds at the very least

and it's one specific enhancement

[buoyant stratus]

Yeah I hate that

[turbid nova]

fibonacci 🗣️

[cloud sinew]

S&B affects 12 cards in a base deck, Hack affects 16, Chad affects all, this would affect 0 cards in the base deck and there's not really a fast way to get wild cards. you only get 1 at a time from lovers

[turbid nova]

fibo already has hack tho

[gaunt burrow]

retrigger ace for scholar

[unborn cliff]

dusk affects all*

[cloud sinew]

true!

as does seltz

ty for reminding me

[turbid nova]

it's probably outclassed by every other retrigger joker sadly

[soft forge]

someone should do an experiment
what if
15 blueprints n brainstorms with 1 jimbo

[buoyant stratus]

Scholar probably my favorite common after shoot the moon aka temu baron

[unborn cliff]

just make hack retrigger aces

genius i know

[cloud sinew]

+68 mult 😎

[turbid nova]

mine's runner

[unborn cliff]

-1 mult 😂😂😂😂😂

[cloud sinew]

true! because they count as 11 or 1

[buoyant stratus]

Beat my first gold stake run with runner

[gaunt burrow]

it can affect like other suit based joker too, and nothing else ig

[open sky]

@pale wolf and others, here’s the answer to the glass holo calculation question. I just had to do it myself in a current run. As you said, Enhancement (x2 for glass) and then Edition (+10 Mult). This is the behavior I was expecting. My code assistant kept wanting to steer me in the other direction but I knew better.

[soft forge]

so epic..!

jimboposting

[unborn cliff]

this is in fact the entire """joke""" of superposition's requirement

[cloud sinew]

baron is temu STM

[buoyant stratus]

Stm?

[soft forge]

scoop the woop

[turbid nova]

shoot the moon

[cloud sinew]

shoot the moon

[buoyant stratus]

Ohh

I'm stupid

[pale wolf]

perhaps abandon the "code assistant" and just have the skillset

lol

[buoyant stratus]

Also
Random trans person on my phone

3:

[turbid nova]

baron might be one of the worst rares for regular ante 8 runs

[cloud sinew]

I don't know, hold on

[unborn cliff]

stm literally has less potential than baron 🤓🤓🤓🤓

[unborn cliff]

slash j

[turbid nova]

meet potential joker

[unborn cliff]

buff baron to 2.5x 😂✌️

[cloud sinew]

are you okay with me DMing you

[buoyant stratus]

Nah
10x

Needs to be balanced

[unborn cliff]

she's right you know

[buoyant stratus]

Sure

[pale wolf]

especially considering that the game's source code is very easy to view

[open sky]

That's why it's an assistant. I did the math myself and came back with a different result and then fought it for way too long. The app I'm writing is to find all permutations of hands and playing cards to achieve a specific mult level based on the current hand and hand level. So if you want your mult level to be exactly 1000 and you're on 3oak level 13, here's the specific hands you can play and what cards you will need (e.g. [Mult/Holo+Red | Glass/Holo+Red | Glass/None+Red]). Useful for wanting to get as close to naneinf without going over.

[echo sphinx]

parking greed loss 100% rate

[open sky]

@pale wolf Also I'm assuming that it's true you can score within a rounding error of naneinf and have that score properly and permanently saved but not blow up the game later on

[gaunt burrow]

uncommon jokers usually cost about 6-7 dollars

[knotty zodiac]

gg

[echo sphinx]

parking greed 100% loss rate

[icy hollow]

Holy fuck 😭 😭 😭

Level 50 pairs on ante 6

[gaunt burrow]

hmmm

[icy hollow]

Tho still havent found any unstickered joker....

😭

[gaunt burrow]

rare have no retrigger joker

[soft forge]

hWAT

[icy hollow]

Certificate is stupid 😭 😭 😭 😭 💔

[soft forge]

stupidly good at times

[icy hollow]

9 blue seals in my deck rn 😭 😭 😭

Actual goat

WAIT I JUST ROLLED PAST AN UNSTICKERED JOLER

💀 💀

loyalty card 🥀 rip

Surely it comes back around

[echo sphinx]

autowin

[ancient gyro]

where mult source

[echo sphinx]

saturn

[ancient gyro]

o

[cloud sinew]

you can have your biggest hand be displayed as "1.798e308" but no higher

[echo sphinx]

mmmmmmmm

[knotty zodiac]

i love saturns

[gaunt burrow]

hangman

[ancient gyro]

at what point do you forego cert bloat while keeping your deck in relief of straight killing boss blinds

[echo sphinx]

idk tbh

i just roll with it

[knotty zodiac]

youre on track to beating my highest a8

[fringe girder]

haha

[icy hollow]

Alrdy passed it

Im not sure if this is my highest tho

[ancient gyro]

zoinks

[knotty zodiac]

100 possible

[icy hollow]

Ive had 50+ a couple times

[open sky]

Is there a documented range of values? I'm assuming I have to hit between 1.79750e308 (rounds up to 1.798e308) and 1.79769e308?

[icy hollow]

Cus this is pure blue seal

Blue seal + burnt or space can go high

[fringe girder]

As a Chinese player, seeing your daily life, I feel like I'm not a big shot at all

[lime remnant]

vagaball or debate

[knotty zodiac]

i think the key is getting the additional consumable slot

[knotty zodiac]

mm rebate. i need a bit more scoring before considering vaga

[icy hollow]

I had this run over a year ago lol

[twilit storm]

how many cryptids do i need to naneinf on ghost deck?? i have 1 baron 1 mime 1 blueprint and 1 brainstrom... and is 3 barons 1 mime better than 2 barons and 2 mimes

[noble mango]

baltato sucks when the game gave you blueprint on shop 1
and then proceeds to ragebait you by not giving you any scoring jokers
and litereally just kills you

[icy hollow]

Mostly levelled frim space man

[noble mango]

😭

[echo sphinx]

mailed, hex that, vaga

[knotty zodiac]

blueprint shop 1 is so -ev lol

[echo sphinx]

real

[lime remnant]

ahh i forgot i can do both

[noble mango]

can't even afford it

[knotty zodiac]

count your blessings

[echo sphinx]

soel

[lime remnant]

better thank the lord

[twilit storm]

pls i need a answer

[noble mango]

how evil is

buffoon pack (the small one)

• Photochad
  (you have yo only pick 1)

[knotty zodiac]

chad is good by itself

[lime remnant]

doomed yaoi

[noble mango]

😭 well
oh lord

[versed sable]

usually the mime/baron split should be +1 towards baron; if you have an even number then it either doesn't matter or it depends on cards

[echo sphinx]

triboulet, die

[noble mango]

both are guys?

[versed sable]

the card calculation, I don't know but there's a balatro calculator if you google it

[noble mango]

triboulet slaps cheeks man

[knotty zodiac]

chad's pronouns are Florida/2000

[versed sable]

-# also, bonjour everyone

[noble mango]

(he actually slaps the king's cheeks)

[lime remnant]

do you consider hanging ballot a guy

[noble mango]

ahem
Gentlemen

[versed sable]

i am not one of those smh

[noble mango]

then why you say yaoi instead of yuri

[ancient gyro]

ballot is better overall
photo is better for one shotting a1 big blind or making up lost score against manacle/hook m

[twilit storm]

and how many read seal kings do i need on ghost deck with 2 barons 2 mimes

[versed sable]

_ _

[fringe girder]

guys,where are you from

[cloud sinew]

hanging chad is nonbinary until the vote (gender) is manually checked

[cloud sinew]

don't answer that

[lime remnant]

because i consider paper to be a guy
because chad

[cloud sinew]

rule 4 twin

[knotty zodiac]

and rechecked

[versed sable]

My house

[noble mango]

from the womb of my mother

[ancient gyro]

gun range

[tacit stream]

schordinger's gender 👀

[knotty zodiac]

i'm from atlantis

[minor portal]

balala joker poker

[versed sable]

[fringe girder]

I am Chinese and not very familiar with the functions here

😭

[ancient gyro]

10 minutes before hell event

[noble mango]

are you from
where i was from

birds fly
sun shines
and brotha
i touch people

[ancient gyro]

lucky

[knotty zodiac]

wonder if our contestants are alive

[light brook]

let’s go my pairslop grimbo run didn’t count so now i have to get gold sticker on the 5 jokers i had again 🗣️

i hate that bug

[ancient gyro]

nope 😀

send them the alarm ⏰

[minor portal]

do you hurt people

One edited message

[gaunt burrow]

idk

[noble mango]

hug -> touch

hugging seems gay

[minor portal]

you so right for that

[noble mango]

(i rarely hug people
i rarely even go out to talk to people)

basically introvert

[icy hollow]

Check outside your window

Also pogger i found a loyalty card

Only 4f left unstickered

And got over 100. Surely i can reroll into it

[noble mango]

holy moly
rtb anhk and invis jokr

balato is peak

[knotty zodiac]

youre doing c++3?

[cursive crater]

which one of you hate bloodstone more

you or lesbian hornet

[trail pier]

obelisk gaming

[open sky]

You need at least 1,751 retriggers of 1.5x. If a red seal steel king gives you 20 retriggers then you need 88 in your hand on ghost deck. If your high card is level 72 or higher, then you can get by with 87

[noble mango]

is that jimbo or grimbo or idk

what is rainmbo jimbo

[icy hollow]

Yea

[trail pier]

grimbo

[icy hollow]

Bloodstone loyalty card 4f last 3

But i have bloodstone and loyalty card rn

[knotty zodiac]

im on last 3 rn too

[noble mango]

oh i see
thanks

[knotty zodiac]

just got loyalty card a few runs ago

[icy hollow]

So unless i somehow throw a run with lvl 7p pairs...

[noble mango]

it was gay jimbo

[icy hollow]

I got bloodstone on like my 5th rhn

Run

But the run didnt save

And it lost its sticker

🥀

[knotty zodiac]

i need tribe.. so checkered runs zzz

[icy hollow]

Lost 3 legendary stickers too

[knotty zodiac]

this happened to my hack! lame

[ancient gyro]

will this be your 694th c++

[icy hollow]

But i got quite a lot of souls this time

[icy hollow]

Rip

[noble mango]

zenless?

[icy hollow]

I lost 8 runs of stickers

[knotty zodiac]

what's zenless

[icy hollow]

Out of 21 at the time

But i havent lost any since 21

[noble mango]

condition of no zen

[ancient gyro]

you had the luxury of your two legendaries stickered normally and not bug out 4 times

[trail pier]

ooo

[knotty zodiac]

dopamine is the opposite of zen

therefore i am zenless lols

[icy hollow]

Luxury of only 2 legendaries lost

[noble mango]

IS DAT TETO

[wanton kayak]

hello there and have a good day

[noble mango]

||your curiosity has murdered a cat||

[knotty zodiac]

@brittle ocean @broken sun u alive?

[noble mango]

who

[knotty zodiac]

our contestants for nitro bounty

[noble mango]

i see

[ancient gyro]

they heard what deck they had to play and dipped

[knotty zodiac]

its kinda early for the west coasters lols

[knotty zodiac]

BURN IT DOWN

[knotty zodiac]

I wonder what triggers the bug

[ancient gyro]

are both of them west coast

[knotty zodiac]

idk

[ancient gyro]

this is around the time I wake up if i lived west coast

[knotty zodiac]

wake up to some balatro ☕

[icy hollow]

Found it

[icy hollow]

Inconsistent connection

[trail pier]

i died because i had like $50 but didnt find a single usable joker in the shop even though i rerolled

[icy hollow]

At least for me

[knotty zodiac]

ooh fascinating... it's not local-first

[icy hollow]

Good connection or no connection it never happened

[echo sphinx]

bruh

[knotty zodiac]

i had a streak reset that didn't save correctly too... guess i gotta wait for stable internet connection

[trail pier]

ive never really tried for a winstreak on gold stake before i might give it a try

[broken sun]

i'm here

[brittle ocean]

I’m alive

[knotty zodiac]

yall made it!

[trail pier]

my highest without going for it is a 7 winstreak i think

[broken sun]

barely lol

[knotty zodiac]

woohoo

just in time!

[ancient gyro]

joy

[knotty zodiac]

oh ya and i owe two ppl pings too

[ancient gyro]

who is all in the emote server

[icy hollow]

Ok done

[knotty zodiac]

@humble gulch @mental bloom ping me 🙂

[versed sable]

gold stake is scary

[icy hollow]

This profile was from september lol

Havent played much until this past like 2 weeks so yea was very washed for a while

Still am

🥀

[broken sun]

anyways, when and whereare we playing

@knotty zodiac

[knotty zodiac]

mm im trying to add you to the server but you're not on list

[twilit storm]

i got naneinf and it just says -nan and the round doesnt end why does it do that

[knotty zodiac]

i'll dm you

[ancient gyro]

he should send you invites to the server

yeah

[twilit storm]

why does my round not end

[cloud sinew]

i believe it's a modded issue

[twilit storm]

what mod causes this

[cloud sinew]

I think steamodded is the culprit

[trail pier]

waow

[cloud sinew]

it is indeed a steamodded issue

[waxen fable]

ohhg im squaring it

[heavy heron]

vagabond thanks for your service

[noble mango]

i wonder what happens if every joker in game was misprinted

[brave fox]

Shall I feed the dagger with this riff raff ?

[cloud sinew]

how would that work for scaling jokers

[noble mango]

like?

[cloud sinew]

vampire, ride the bus, etc

[molten thicket]

scales a random amt

[noble mango]

ride the bus :

scales by 1-21 per hand played wihout face

[molten thicket]

it wouldn't be balanced at all but idt thats the point

[noble mango]

(bullshit op)

for x mult jokers tho . . . maybe from 0.01x to 0.2x?

[gaunt burrow]

the guy that make planet cost free

[noble mango]

well some passives just can't be misprinted p much

like. 4 finger
astronomer
short joker
smear joker

[molten thicket]

fuck is short joker

[noble mango]

short(cut)

cutted

[gaunt burrow]

uh actually

it can make planet cost from 0 to 23

[noble mango]

i cut the part that says cut

[cloud sinew]

-$13 to +$10

[noble mango]

ok that's fucking bullshit i like it

[gaunt burrow]

4 finger it jst make it go from 1 to 5

[molten thicket]

planet tycoon finally good

[noble mango]

yeah tha's peak

[molten thicket]

does selling a negative cost item cost you money

[noble mango]

what about space tho . . .

[noble mango]

pretty much lol

you get money for buying it so might as well use it

maybe

or it just acts like a 0

[molten thicket]

[random number] in [random number] chance

[gaunt burrow]

if you think about it , smeared joker alr got misprint

[noble mango]

trie

[noble mango]

23% chance to upgrade by 23 levels seems legit

this would make an interesting challenge mod

if only i know how to code well

[gaunt burrow]

i think cryptid mod did it

[noble mango]

hmmm

should i buy pc balatro just to do cryptid

[sharp junco]

mane what is this seed, polychrome mime in shop 2 and nat negative bs + ancient and you get access to all the seals in polychrome king form at like ante 4

[molten thicket]

no

[sharp junco]

probably wouldve all been perishable if it was gold stake

[molten thicket]

cryptid sucks for replayability

[mental bloom]

What have I done again

What's happening

[sharp junco]

aye dont disrespect my goat Misprint deck

[noble mango]

balalto mobile it is then

[mental bloom]

Sorry I was in an exam

[molten thicket]

it gets boring insanely fast

cryptid is basically just a content farm for youtubers

[mental bloom]

@knotty zodiac yo gang

[knotty zodiac]

they already won tho!

[gaunt burrow]

if i being correct , only ramen have 0.01 in it description

[knotty zodiac]

you reacted on my message about the discord nitro bounty so i figured you wanted a ping

---

we have a winner

[mental bloom]

Ooooh lol I forgot I did that

Also weren't there supposed to be a small server created ? I think I've seen you talk about it

[knotty zodiac]

the server exists, ill send you an invite

[mental bloom]

Ty goat 🙏🏼

[knotty zodiac]

youll need to turn on your DM i think

[trail pier]

yeah this is pretty good i think

[noble mango]

why is photo there if trib exist

oh right sticker

[trail pier]

i have gold sticker already but its better than having nothing in that slot right

[noble mango]

econ

[worthy tinsel]

I mean is stil a X8mult

[trail pier]

i havent seen an econ joker yet

[noble mango]

i mean true but
well ig

[noble mango]

no wonder

fair ig

[lunar zealot]

Card sharp is technically econ here

It gives you 4 dollars because you sell it because it does nothing here

[noble mango]

wdym a 8x mult

that's a 4x, 4x 4x mult on the FIRST card (assuming it was a king/queen)

64x mult lmao

[mental bloom]

Are they off??? Bruh what 😭

[noble mango]

then there's more x mult down the line

[ancient gyro]

a second bounty is in process

[noble mango]

huh

[knotty zodiac]

ya i think you have your settings on friend only

just sent

[atomic trout]

I never thought Boots can be inverted.

[obsidian sparrow]

Knowing there's a Balatro smartphone port I could download and play at any time is extremely dangerous to me. My job and marriage are at great risk!

[noble mango]

WHAT

[atomic trout]

+-8 Mult does decrease your 😨

[noble mango]

you didn't play balatro mobile?

[obsidian sparrow]

They forgot to translate 'celestial pack' literally unplayable 😔

[noble mango]

hold on this might be a wild theory

but is negative chips possible?

[atomic trout]

None of the packs or Tarot cards were changed

[noble mango]

ill need credit card and bootstraps seed

[atomic trout]

I don't know. I do know you lose chips when you're in the negative

Stencil on Typecast is scary

-x4 mult 🤣

[obsidian sparrow]

I deleted it for cognitive safety reasons. 😅 But it's always there, like a line of strange powder on a day trader's desk.

[buoyant stratus]

This looks so cursed

[cloud sinew]

I believe that balatro has been a net positive effect on my life

balatro helped me replace doomscrolling with playing games

[obsidian sparrow]

I intentionally haven't played Slay the Spire because Balatro was too addictive!

[obsidian sparrow]

jokes aside that's actually great! ☺️

[noble mango]

why tf did i see being most used

[buoyant stratus]

I used it once

[noble mango]

this is so cursed 💔 🥀 😭

[buoyant stratus]

Yes that's what I said

[noble mango]

just beause i see weegee there

[cloud sinew]

it rounds to the first 3 significant figures; the actual stored value of my "Best Hand" is 1.967652388683e+25, and in game it displays it as 1.97e25

[obsidian sparrow]

Gigabrain Pair players/sickos are unphased by the pithy Ouija

[noble mango]

more importanlty
it suck

and it eats your hand

and occupies space for other spectrals

[buoyant stratus]

I played flush fives actually

[noble mango]

i want ouija removed

[buoyant stratus]

Idk I really like it early game

[trail pier]

the eternal chad is making me sad rn

[waxen fable]

0 use case

[noble mango]

holy peak you got the team assembled now

[obsidian sparrow]

They say Ouijamaxxing is the ultimate thrill for Balatro players. Truly dangerous and stupid, yet so satisfying.

[waxen fable]

no point risking hand size forno reason

[cloud sinew]

with blue stake being reworked, i would be okay with it being changed to -1 discard

[waxen fable]

yes

[trail pier]

i genuinely dont think ive ever taken ouija

[waxen fable]

yes

no setup helps dat shit

[buoyant stratus]

Well I'm stupid 👍

[waxen fable]

u can never predict what rank it's gonna hit

[waxen fable]

ur not as bad as the other bitcoinbaron disciples here

at least

[buoyant stratus]

As other what

[obsidian sparrow]

Ouija with the bean joker is actually, in theory, OP if you're brave enough.

[waxen fable]

thoose..... who know....

[buoyant stratus]

I don't

That's why I asked

[rancid glade]

ouijia + troubadour + juggler + bean + the snake??

[buoyant stratus]

That's the random ass run I used ouija in btw

[wintry igloo]

finally done with erratic deck

[obsidian sparrow]

They call it the heart attack special! Be sure to monitor your blood pressure.

[buoyant stratus]

Gg

[wintry igloo]

thx ggs

now's time for green deck

[rancid glade]

one time I was on a decent face card run and did ouija with troubadour and it hit 2s

but imagineee if it hit kings fr

[obsidian sparrow]

Nice! I love rerolling erratic deck until I get some really unbalanced stack of suits or a card, makes for fun chill games

[buoyant stratus]

Why are the stickers missing?

[wintry igloo]

I don't use them, kinda feels unnecessary

[cloud sinew]

you can toggle stake stickers on or off

[buoyant stratus]

Oh I forgot you don't see them by default

[wintry igloo]

yup

[buoyant stratus]

So used to them

[buoyant stratus]

Forgot to add deck

[obsidian sparrow]

When I was gold sticker hunting I took an eternal troubadour into my joker set, and late in the run when I had wee+brainstorm+Canio i took a invisible joker and the evil little devil copied the Troub. Ruined my life.

[wintry igloo]

It looks good with most of them but I'm kinda into empty stuff

I mean the more things on my screen the less I like them

[buoyant stratus]

Accurate pfp then

[obsidian sparrow]

I think the most cursed joker pair is probably Chicot and eternal Troubadour. Devastating. 💔

[wintry igloo]

oops

forgot we can't send stickers here

[obsidian sparrow]

Anyone got a worse combo than that?

[vagrant wagon]

Was that a good idea 😅

[obsidian sparrow]

Or how about Yorick and eternal Burglar. Horrifying.

[obsidian sparrow]

Well it's chaotic so I approve 😄

[wintry igloo]

for the first ante? absolutely

[vagrant wagon]

Ok

[wintry igloo]

wouldn't recommend for the later ones though

[vagrant wagon]

Yeah i know

[buoyant stratus]

How?
What interaction do they even have with each other?

[obsidian sparrow]

don't worry I've got achievement++ and I do the most terribly risky early game stuff all the time.

[buoyant stratus]

Troubadour is +2 hand size -1 hand right?

[obsidian sparrow]

Ah I'm a fool, I meant to write Matador

[buoyant stratus]

Oohh ok

[iron vigil]

Probably not but if you win you can hear the satisfying money sounds

[obsidian sparrow]

So disable all boss blinds, but gain $7 when you activate boss ability. Totally useless.

[wintry igloo]

oh now, that makes sense, yeah that's a pretty bad combo

like a burglar and mail and rebait

[cloud sinew]

still works on the Double or Nothing challenge

matador gives $8 if a debuffed card scores, regardless of if it's against a boss or not

[buoyant stratus]

Yorick+burglar+mail in rebate+ faceless+ uhh
Uhhh
Drunkard+ merry Andy+ delayed gratification

[iron vigil]

Just drop the burglar at this point

😭

[obsidian sparrow]

Absolutely disgusting combos🤮 i can't help but respect it

[buoyant stratus]

Didn't know that

Thought it was debuffed and in boss blind

Good to know

[cloud sinew]

trading card + hook is a very cool synergy

[buoyant stratus]

Forgot that trading card exists

Add that to the list

[obsidian sparrow]

I just thought, do debuffed face cards reset ride the bus? I'm guessing it's a safe move but I haven't tried

[ebon condor]

sixth sense + pareidolia + canio + dna anyone

[cloud sinew]

they don't reset ride the bus

so chicot + ride the bus can be anti-synergy

[obsidian sparrow]

I gotta play around with ride the bus more, I like it

I'm a recent Obelisk covert so I'm branching out into new joker realms...

[wintry igloo]

it probably doesn't worth right?

[cloud sinew]

probably not

[obsidian sparrow]

Worth it for the adrenaline rush

[wintry igloo]

yeah, don't really have good jokers as well

[buoyant stratus]

Unsure if I should drop dusk before using ecto

I'm not taking this run seriously whatsoever so I'll do whatever people tell me to, Including selling everything but dusk

[drifting gorge]

use immolate

[obsidian sparrow]

alpha move

[buoyant stratus]

But that's not as silly

[obsidian sparrow]

I think negative dusk is a nice little bonus to have in your deck, really depends on how many lucky 7 cards you have though. If you're loaded up the -1 size won't matter as long as you're not flush 5 (unless it's upgraded to a guaranteed 1-shot flush five)

I don't know the meta lingo so idk if that makes sense lol

[wintry igloo]

oh god

best thing ever happened 😭