🕹・game-discussion

[ebon condor]

but i once heard an argument from someone that if you werent using it all the time you were playing suboptimally

[solar meteor]

classic amphy

[ebon condor]

i cant remember why they were saying that but ik they were making a larger point abt it

[compact gazelle]

yea since it also works in the collection and is technically doable in any run
i doubt anyone goes to that trouble to ever check it (I don’t even bother to look at it when I have the actual joker most of the time)

[knotty zodiac]

technically true. which is what makes it so annoying

[south monolith]

Goodnight joker poker enjoyers

[sly marsh]

It slows you down so much you're better off just not doing it and going through that many more runs

[calm furnace]

i have like a thousand hour in the game and i still dont know the misprint tech

[compact gazelle]

but yknow a tool could be coded or something to just show you the misprint read every hand and discard

[sly marsh]

Imo it's more of a neat thing than actually useful

[frank grove]

iirc there is a mod for that

[compact gazelle]

and that’s why “optimal play” is stupid :3

[solar meteor]

some ppl just save scum without thinking twice which sorta ruins your skill improvement in the game. sorta like how having a score display before you play your hand for mods is removing a skill aspect in risking a hand for greeding money or something else

[sly marsh]

Optimal play is when I enjoy balatro

[ebon condor]

truth dynamite

[solar meteor]

ruth firework

[ebon condor]

but yeah i think this is so fair

[compact gazelle]

truth confetti cannon

[heavy heron]

i agree up until that last part

sometimes... i just don't feel like pulling out a calculator..

[sly marsh]

Bro what the fuck cartonancer

Why does the game want me to have all the tarots

[ebon condor]

though on the other hand, if those skills are never necessary for how you play the game, its hard to say that youre missing out on those skills

[calm furnace]

type of run you will never find FT in

[signal mist]

is ceremonial dagger killing bp a valid reason to savescum?

[sly marsh]

Ft?

[knotty zodiac]

i dont think being able to calculate the precise score of a hand is a very interesting test

[ebon condor]

though im sure theres something to be said about the mindset

[compact gazelle]

I can do all the steps and double check every single damn action to make optimal plays
or I can say send it and go fly
which is just way more fun and feels infinitely nicer

[heavy heron]

i think savescumming to see if a hand would've won or not (without luck... no bloodstone no lucky cards no misprint none fo that) takes nothing away

[compact gazelle]

estimating hand score isn’t hard anyway :3

[heavy heron]

because you could've just pulled out a calculator

and wasted

10-30 seconds of your life

[calm furnace]

fortunte teller

[sly marsh]

Ah fr

[heavy heron]

to calcualte a hand that the game can calculate for you anyway by savescumming

[solar meteor]

i don’t really do that

[floral mural]

not even a calculator just refrencing your past scores as well

[ebon condor]

i think making calculator use something that you only pull out in very close situations makes the game much more interesting

[solar meteor]

i’ve played so much to the point where score eyeballing is really comfortable

[heavy heron]

well by that i mean, trying not to win too soon y'know

like today i tried to not win too soon for vagabond hands

but if it did.. oops... undo!

because like

i could've just used a calculator?

[floral mural]

i dont see how calculating something would even change anything since usually youre hyperfocused on one hand type anyways

[heavy heron]

and not made that mistake of winning too fast?

[floral mural]

or a movable joker order

[ebon condor]

maybe not MUCH more, but i think knowing when you might need the calculator is also a skill

[floral mural]

so a dud hand isnt unfeasible to do

[knotty zodiac]

"does this single 6 clear the round? what about this jack"? might be interesting once or twice, but when it happens every ante, it's kinda just mundane

[sly marsh]

Gotta be fucking kidding me, cartomancer from judgment

[solar meteor]

savescumming also wastes extra time, i just accept the misplay and remember to improve my score eyeballing next run

[sly marsh]

The other was eternal

[ebon condor]

frankly excessive tarot gen

[sly marsh]

It's getting ridiculous

[compact gazelle]

when there’s 24 scoring order permutations all unique and you just don’t feel like working through the rough values on every possible hand it’s understandable

[solar meteor]

meh, i don’t need a calculator to beat ante 8

[sly marsh]

I also took crystal ball if you couldn't tell

[floral mural]

yeah. i usually just remember my previous generic score and use that as refrence tho

[solar meteor]

that’s what i do

[knotty zodiac]

yes i do this too

but sometimes the joker lineup changes in a not-obvious way

[frank grove]

yeah me too

[compact gazelle]

although I still believe mentally estimating the scoring on every relevant option is
Not That Hard (TM)

[floral mural]

if i score 50k last round on a scaling build im not scoring less than 50k now for example

[frank grove]

and early on i can just do the math in my head most of the time

[knotty zodiac]

ya the first 1-2 sig fig is not that hard.

[solar meteor]

know my average score, my upper bound score, and how many hands i can burn

[floral mural]

and if i need a low score hand you just gimp the joker order usually

[ebon condor]

idk, ive had situations where like, im not sure whether to greed on a very close final hand

[sly marsh]

Whenever I use baseball card I always forget exactly how it works and have to slow it down to make sure the triggers are in the right order

[ebon condor]

i suppose you could make the argument that if youre not sure, just dont greed tho

so

[tacit stream]

A lot of eyeballing is just stuff like "oh this gives me one more X2 Mult from photochad" or "this arrangement is gonna score more" to me.

[solar meteor]

ik best to play it safe from all the gsg attempts last year

[heavy heron]

oh yeah? estimate this score (joke)

[compact gazelle]

it’s very rare that you’d need to consider anything other than “do I minimize or maximize my score”
although it absolutely does crop up here and there

[heavy heron]

see can anybody even really eyeball this

like

i can just hit play hand and savescum to see score

[solar meteor]

i’m not the pilot of this run

[heavy heron]

or.. calculate for 2 minutes

[heavy heron]

all the info is in front of you anyway

[floral mural]

even in other roguelikes its usually a consistency and risk situation i need to consider

[heavy heron]

also it’s my first time playing a hand like that that run (just sold stm)

[compact gazelle]

and that’s where you just calculate stuff in your head and run with it
occasionally I do go for the middle road on scoring like when I wanna find a straight for value of some sort but I can’t guarantee it so I can bring myself within range to win with a pair or high card in the event of a brick draw

[knotty zodiac]

when you have low planet levels, it's often safer to stay within striking distance of the win score

happens quite a lot early game to me

[floral mural]

you have 5 bajillion baron triggers you win in one hand

[knotty zodiac]

but digging is still very +ev so the math is kinda required

[solar meteor]

it’s gonna win regardless, why should i care about these calculations

[heavy heron]

you got it correct!

[ebon condor]

itll be enough to win, thats all that really matters

[heavy heron]

yea it was mostly a joke

LOOLLL

[solar meteor]

i

i’m going to bed

[heavy heron]

look at the

parentheses

[knotty zodiac]

gn see ya tomorrow

[solar meteor]

where

[knotty zodiac]

do we have a location for the vc?

[heavy heron]

look closer

[solar meteor]

i’m so eepy

[heavy heron]

you’ll see it

[solar meteor]

uh

[heavy heron]

anyways i’m sure you were close.. or smth

[solar meteor]

chotophad server prob

[compact gazelle]

145x18x1.5^30 plug that into desmos

[ebon condor]

9.2

[compact gazelle]

sorry im late on the reply

[knotty zodiac]

sg. ill make a server as a backup just in case. see ya tm

[heavy heron]

yea… something like that

[solar meteor]

ight

[humble gulch]

I need to see this

[knotty zodiac]

i can ping ya tm

[humble gulch]

:3

[knotty zodiac]

<t:1777471200:F> (your time zone)

[calm furnace]

eww

[humble gulch]

That's pretty early...

[knotty zodiac]

ya it's early for me too lol

we trying to do morning ET this time

[hardy horizon]

Its calling to me

Deck looking like this rn

[vale shale]

No

Baron bad

[hardy horizon]

i could just get a mime on the next reroll tho

i alr have blueprint maybe baron is the move

[vale shale]

You're relying on rng

And not on what build you're doing

[hardy horizon]

yeah basically

[vale shale]

I don't think that works but it does rarely

[hardy horizon]

lowk a casual run today not trying to stress over build and whatnot

[next garden]

The greatest crimson bean I could have pulled off (it is seeded though)

[hardy horizon]

48 hand size in ante 9 is lowk insane holy smokes

[next garden]

Funny enough, if I remove the stuntman and get the 2 hand size voucher I get exactly 52 hand size

[noble mango]

howdoescrinesonheartbeanwork

[frank grove]

iirc if bean is debuffed you just main menu and then continue the run and then you will have the hand size permanently

[noble mango]

"For my first move, i draw my entire deck"

[tacit stream]

"Then I play the whole deck"

[floral delta]

hmm wondering what build does the game want me to make

[flat tiger]

clearly flush 5

[rugged bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/po3GwNrby6U

the best balatro short I've ever seen

[flat tiger]

i will replace that with chicot

[hardy horizon]

high card is calling

[floral delta]

nah

obviously 2 pair

[flat tiger]

Jeff is calling

[hardy horizon]

nah nah bro its three of a kind

trust me on this one

[errant brook]

64/150 jokers done for C++ on Mobile. The good news: ALL the legendaries done already (somehow). The bad news: Almost none of the crappy jokers done.

[noble mango]

there's no shortcut tho

[knotty zodiac]

in case you didnt know, the uncommons are way harder than the commons

[errant brook]

I've accepted that a lot of them are gonna be tag alongs with PhotoChad

[mental bloom]

Speaking straight facts

[rugged bloom]

So real 🗣️ 🔥 ‼️

[mental bloom]

EVEN GRIMBO IS MORE LEGENDARY THAN PERKEO

True

[tacit stream]

Even better: *tag alongs with Chad

[kind sierra]

The

[flat tiger]

how much harder would it be if Thonk make amber acron not cheeseable

amber is literally a non-issue right now

[tacit stream]

Uncheesable Amber Acorn (Finisher Boss Blind)
Really large blind (X8 base score)

[flat tiger]

really crazily biggus huge blind

[knotty zodiac]

should still be relatively ok if you can burn 1 hand or you are fine with scumming

[flat tiger]

the idea of that boss is to waste you at least 1 hand and a lot of times you cant really

[knotty zodiac]

would be the third hardest after vv and crimson but easier by far

[flat tiger]

well if you dont turn down game speed it could be more then 1 hand

[knotty zodiac]

it's stil vv > crimson > the other 3

[flat tiger]

TBH i think all ante 8 bosses have vertain group of builds it counters

[knotty zodiac]

ok there is one build that it kinda kills, if not all your jokers proc during hands, and you have blueprint and acrobat

it's a nightmare

[knotty zodiac]

vv punishes everything that doesnt scale

crimson and verdant punishes builds that require all the jokers

verdant punishes builds that have too many eternals and that rely on on score

cerulean punishes five card hands and hands that rely on lone cards

amber punishes... forgetting what your jokers do or needing every hand to win

[tacit stream]

I still remember that time I had to carry a Straight run with Flower Pot (due to Canio stuck at X2) and then Ante 8 Cerulean Bell.

I did successfully play 2 FP Straights and beat the Bell. This was how I gold sticker'd Canio.
(Painted deck, the other jokers were Foil Abstract and Foil Popcorn)

[subtle drum]

i can't do anything??

[noble mango]

blueprint from judgement is peak

[flat tiger]

if anything I found cerulean the least problematic even with 5 card hadns, 5 card hands only need it to land on one of the 5 cards you need, and 5 card hands ususally want to discard anyway

[fringe nebula]

amber punishes brainstorm blueprint users 🗣️

[ebon condor]

amber acorn literally does nothing so

[fringe nebula]

altho you can work around it by checking which jokers are eternal and which one isn't

you can also do savescumming to check the sell price of jokers

[knotty zodiac]

flushes usually ok
fullhouse can be trouble if it hits your trio
straights without util can be absolute nightmare

[flat tiger]

you still have the backup hangman or something

[fringe nebula]

you mean

death?

[flat tiger]

hang the card forced on you you get to just do whatever you wnat for that discard/hand

[knotty zodiac]

good tool when you have it sure

but when your hand is 9876xxxx and cerulean hits your 7, the hanged man is only helping a little

[flat tiger]

even flush house builds, if you are so strong to do flush house in ante8, it ususally mean your flushes also wins

[ebon condor]

cerulean bell with 8 deaths so i make my entire hand selected

[flat tiger]

i guess straight is the biggest problem

[ebon condor]

(no issues with this idea)

[flat tiger]

and we come back to "you get punished for not playing pairs"

[zinc sigil]

What do you sell for golden

Im looking for bloodstone, I wanna see what the hype is about

[ebon condor]

isnt the main draw of flush house its excellent planet scaling

[eager lance]

new highscore

[zinc sigil]

Does hiker stay

[knotty zodiac]

if scoring is close, hiker
if not, crafty

[flat tiger]

bell wants to screw you when you try flush house

[zinc sigil]

Ok thanks

[zinc sigil]

New pfp I dig it lmaoo

[fringe nebula]

won't work because you can't do 2 deaths on cerulean

[knotty zodiac]

thx 🙂

[flat tiger]

cavenbus

[knotty zodiac]

ride the banana (TM)

[zinc sigil]

Is this and golden not same worth with the foil

[fringe nebula]

can i ride on your banana

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/694849009411555379.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[zinc sigil]

Huh

[zinc sigil]

Any opinion havers

Its 5 gold every shop plus 50 coins

[fringe nebula]

worth it with foil

[zinc sigil]

Thanks

[fringe nebula]

except if you already have chips

[zinc sigil]

I have hiker doesnt count right

[flat tiger]

ditch gold for chaos, ditch sumit if you can survive TBH

[knotty zodiac]

i like golden more. it's more flexible

[fringe nebula]

if you really really need that foil then go chaos

[rotund portal]

Hey is it possible to unlock jokers in seeded runs?

[knotty zodiac]

hm i would prob go extra greedy and drop hiker for chaos

[fringe nebula]

no

[rotund portal]

Shit.

[flat tiger]

do you really need the sumit anyway

[knotty zodiac]

15 mult is a lot a3

[fringe nebula]

a3 summit is important

ye

[flat tiger]

these kinda game is ususally no more scoring for 3 more ante and I die

[knotty zodiac]

they have 4f tribe, i think they cookin

[fringe nebula]

yeah

just need blue seal + tarot gen

"just"

[heavy nest]

Hey guys, I cannot join the multiplayer server. I'm kicked immediately. What can I do to join the multiplayer server?

[fringe nebula]

change your pfp

don't use default

[knotty zodiac]

1. acquire blue seal
2. ???
3. win

[zinc sigil]

Is this even worth it anymore

Its good with hiker I guess but kinda too late and its eternal

[fringe nebula]

I would say yes

[knotty zodiac]

good w hiker

[zinc sigil]

What do I sell

[fringe nebula]

you could get glass or 2

[zinc sigil]

If I sell ft I lose

I have no mult

[zinc sigil]

I see

Thats smart

[knotty zodiac]

i think i drop chaos

[zinc sigil]

Yea

Only option

[knotty zodiac]

reroll voucher will help you

[zinc sigil]

Do I survive this

I dont think I do

[weak relic]

Find a glass and maybe steel card

[knotty zodiac]

depends on planet level but most of the time i think you need xmult or boss reroll or bones/lucha

[zinc sigil]

kk

[knotty zodiac]

ya justice is key

[fringe nebula]

balatro out of context : justice is the key

[knotty zodiac]

if decent planet level

[zinc sigil]

I have to take this no

[fringe nebula]

show planet level

it's probably more than ft tho

[zinc sigil]

Ft is 25

[fringe nebula]

16 x 1.5^7

[zinc sigil]

Do I buy reroll aswell and kill my econ

[knotty zodiac]

if desperate can consider dropping hiker

[flat tiger]

never liked hiker, even on good days the biggest card get 50 chips, majority of the cards are 10-15

[zinc sigil]

Yea

Im trying to prioritise hearts looking for bloodstone

[knotty zodiac]

it's a bit better with chad. but longterm they want retriggers so ideally they can drop fortune teller

[zinc sigil]

Sold it fuck hiker

Now I have a useless chad

[knotty zodiac]

hiker got pushed out of the car gg

[zinc sigil]

[flat tiger]

like i never even get why people say hiker is strong

[zinc sigil]

Would u take the voucher

[flat tiger]

49 times out of 50 it is worse then bonus cards

[zinc sigil]

23 dolla

13 after voucher

[knotty zodiac]

only if youre default alive

[fringe nebula]

who said that

[zinc sigil]

I think I am

For the next 5 rounds

With aj

[knotty zodiac]

hm this is interesting

[flat tiger]

just last week people here were saying ante 1 hiker is free win

[zinc sigil]

Yea

I could get back to econ

[knotty zodiac]

i think you want justice more than bloodstone

[zinc sigil]

But I lose out on potential cards

[knotty zodiac]

so you prob dont want reroll

[zinc sigil]

I see

[knotty zodiac]

bc chad

[zinc sigil]

Justice is higher probability afterall

Makes sense

[flat tiger]

i only discovered steel card power like halfway through gold stake

[knotty zodiac]

ya i think all your money needs to go to arcana and standard rn

[flat tiger]

when a mime basically soloed the entire ante 6-8

[knotty zodiac]

maybe econ

[fringe nebula]

it feels so uncomfortable to type on phone when I have pinched nerve in my thumb 😭

[knotty zodiac]

ouch take care

[flat tiger]

try tongue

[zinc sigil]

Oh yea im so fine wtf

[fringe nebula]

this is worse than forcing yourself to eat while having canker sore

[knotty zodiac]

nice, basically clearing everything besides vv now

[fringe nebula]

dude

it's ante 5

[flat tiger]

just do 3 flushes 4Head

[fringe nebula]

oh yeah

[zinc sigil]

Thats with aj and a empress red seal 8 tho

[flat tiger]

the question is do you skip everything to keep the AJ

[fringe nebula]

you can probably do fullskip to preserve ancient

[knotty zodiac]

maybe take it ez and come back with healed thumbs?

[zinc sigil]

Aj has to hit every time

[fringe nebula]

if you're feeling brave

[zinc sigil]

No way

I need it on clubs

[knotty zodiac]

hm idk about the fullskip

[fringe nebula]

I'm typing with index

[flat tiger]

i mean TBH if it lands on your main suit you can jsut full skip to ensure the win

[knotty zodiac]

ah interesting lemme try

[flat tiger]

wait no i am dumb

[knotty zodiac]

hunt and peck... wow

no muscle memory

[fringe nebula]

this is why i hate rhythm games

[knotty zodiac]

ig its fine with some practice and phone resting on a surface

[lime remnant]

what i do here

[knotty zodiac]

do you play cytus?

[fringe nebula]

no

[lime remnant]

grabber or buffoon or sell hex for holograf

[fringe nebula]

sell hex take ft

[lime remnant]

or crazy guy

sure

[dire sage]

CCITBP

[flat tiger]

sell hex take planet

[lime remnant]

individual

buffoon? or save

wraith is tribe

[knotty zodiac]

save

holo carries until like round 5 by itself

[zinc sigil]

Aj hit does it win

[knotty zodiac]

lets see

[zinc sigil]

Gold stake magic DONE

4 decks DONE

[lime remnant]

easy win

[zinc sigil]

that was quick

Just skipped everything

LOL

[knotty zodiac]

c+ comin soon, i feel it

[zinc sigil]

Im still too trash at this game

Whats next

[flat tiger]

i sure love runs that I can just mass skip

[zinc sigil]

I feel like I grasped 5% of how to play

[flat tiger]

which is not a lot

[zinc sigil]

I still know nothing

[noble mango]

a mimed steel is like 2x, slightily more

[zinc sigil]

When in the beginning I thought this game was so easy

[zinc sigil]

2.25

[knotty zodiac]

maybe anaglyph to continue the theme

[zinc sigil]

Is that a horror deck

[noble mango]

then you se blue stake

[zinc sigil]

Isnt that the double tag thing

[zinc sigil]

Bro I always start losing at blue and purple stake

Orange gs feels easier

[knotty zodiac]

yep. below average but plenty playable

[zinc sigil]

I hate that one

[noble mango]

anaglyph is funny when negative tag

[zinc sigil]

10 jokers

[lime remnant]

actually can marble work

[zinc sigil]

mfw only tarot cards and planet cards in shop after 5 negative joker tags

[fringe nebula]

which decks?

[noble mango]

marblimo hm

[zinc sigil]

Blue plasma ghost magic

[fringe nebula]

ah

[noble mango]

better than jimbo, delgrat, popcorn eating your negative tags

[zinc sigil]

When you guys play erratic deck do you restart until u get one u like , like me or do you just play any deck

[knotty zodiac]

play any xD

[fringe nebula]

just play without restart

[noble mango]

that the challenge ig

[zinc sigil]

If I dont see 10 queens and stm first shop im restarting

Is that a donkey reaction

😭

[noble mango]

bro think stm is the only good joker

[naive frigate]

Its a horse

[zinc sigil]

I love my queens

[fringe nebula]

Balatro is a very hard game that requires calculator each round, and each round takes around 2 minutes to solve

[noble mango]

i prefer baron

[zinc sigil]

Thats the way doc plays

[zinc sigil]

Love is love

[noble mango]

balatro on pen and paper

[zinc sigil]

Is nebula any fun

[noble mango]

and dices

[zinc sigil]

Prob u just spam hc

[woven spire]

we still on org?

[noble mango]

nebula sucks

[fringe nebula]

no, I'm just jokin

[fringe nebula]

no

[woven spire]

me too 😞

[zinc sigil]

If I become your friend can I put friend of friend of thunk next to my name

[fringe nebula]

not being able to maximize emperor and empress value sucks

[zinc sigil]

Oh yea

True

[woven spire]

ionno ask thunk he placed that in my name

[zinc sigil]

Wait fuck

[woven spire]

close enough

[zinc sigil]

Thats his actual tag

LOL

everyone be quiet nothing happened

[woven spire]

no that’s not him u just pinged a random person lol

[zinc sigil]

Thank god lmao

[noble mango]

o︿o

[woven spire]

actually try to ping him, you can’t

[zinc sigil]

Im good!

[woven spire]

lol

[noble mango]

can

misprint
bloodstone
lucky cat
reach ante 8

[zinc sigil]

Yea if u have a 55x constellation

[marble hound]

So what's the difference between game discussion and run discussion

[naive frigate]

Run discussion is a useless channel

[marble hound]

Oh

[fringe nebula]

#🕹・run-discussion if you don't want your messages to get drowned

[marble hound]

So it's basically just game discussion 2

[naive frigate]

Yeah but with 2 active people an hourt

[marble hound]

Sweet

[fringe nebula]

there are some hours where #🕹・game-discussion is too crowded

[lunar gate]

guys i was playing when using enhancement in few cards but for some reason there's question marks on them, it's a issue?

[woven spire]

Run discussion was kinda pointless addition

like yh i can see why but barely nobody uses it

[woven spire]

mods?

[glossy forge]

Do we take eternal DNA

Holo is at 0

[lunar gate]

no mods

[woven spire]

that’s weird

[flat tiger]

bye egg

[lunar gate]

egg value?

[flat tiger]

perishable egg cant be much

[marble hound]

Perishable egg is almost entirely useless

[glad scroll]

does to the moon even work with green deck?

i think it doesnt but i just wanna make sure

[fringe nebula]

no

[glad scroll]

thanks

[marble hound]

I find it funny how if it wasn't for Balatro I probably wouldn't know literally anything about clowns and jesters

[flat tiger]

double $0 is still 0

[marble hound]

Or at least not the super specific stuff anyways

[noble mango]

if it wasn't for balatro i never know poker hands

[flat tiger]

i stil ldont know much about clowns and jesters

[glad scroll]

its not double only +1

like 1 more dollar for each 5 dollars

[marble hound]

I mean yeah but even the legendaries are enough for me to consider "yeah this game taught me about that"

[flat tiger]

you get $1 per interest dollar you get, so its jsut double your interest

[marble hound]

I think the only ones I even knew was Yorick and Canio

[noble mango]

like how chigoat soloed an entire army

[marble hound]

And even then I didn't even know Canio was a clown with a specific name

[flat tiger]

i literally forgot about those 2 hours later

[marble hound]

Well fine

[glad scroll]

okay but it doesnt work like it doubles the interest you get only that you get 1 more dollar for interest

[flat tiger]

it literally does, if you get seed money you get $20 for $50

[marble hound]

They're talking about Green Deck though

[flat tiger]

aka, doubling $0 is still 0

[marble hound]

Right

[noble mango]

Triboulet -> Slapped king's ass mistooken for the Queen's
Yorick -> was Discarded (poor yorick)
Chicot -> soloed duels and beat up people
Canio -> murdered people
Perkeo -> consumes a shit ton of consumables as it was nothing

[flat tiger]

but did yorick got discarded 23 times?

[noble mango]

no idea but he did get discarded

[marble hound]

Maybe he did

[noble mango]

well
the game can't always be accurate yknow

like
imagine triboulet slapping the king's ass every single time it does 2x mult

[marble hound]

I think 23 is based on a specific quote

[noble mango]

sock and buskin doubles that slap
also red seal

[marble hound]

Like 23 years or something like that

[zinc sigil]

Im kinda sad, I never got a legendary joker and was like

Yea I needed this in my run

It never fits

[flat tiger]

for a while I thought it is "sock my buskin" because I saw multiple vid with people saying it

[zinc sigil]

Last time I got yorick I got it to 2x and died

[zinc sigil]

Because of doc I thought the banana joker is called michelle

[noble mango]

sock and buskin
sock my buskin
sock my skin
sockskin
SnB

[marble hound]

Ah he was dead for 23 years in the story

That's why it's 23

[rotund portal]

Went for the speedrun achievement on Anaglyph. Opened a mega buffoon pack. And, well:

[noble mango]

no wonder

[flat tiger]

THE BIG MIKE

[zinc sigil]

I also recently realized there will never be a new tarot card

Because a tarot deck consists of 13 cards

[marble hound]

Minor arcana

[noble mango]

ye

[zinc sigil]

And its just real tarot cards

With the real names

[marble hound]

Minor arcana

[noble mango]

what about planets

[rotund portal]

I looked inside, and there was indeed.

clears throat

PHOTOCHAD

[flat tiger]

the are not real

[zinc sigil]

That however could work, I was thinking of a deck with a hand that has 6 cards

6 hand straights 6 hand flushes etc

Fuller house or something

[marble hound]

Yo new planet card idea
Planets that decrease your hand levels just as joke planet cards

Like a flat earth

Uh...

[zinc sigil]

Lets leave the jokes to the comedians!

[noble mango]

flush of a kind

[tacit stream]

Asteroid: Sets random hand level to 0

[marble hound]

Flushed Pair

Who flushed my trousers down the toilet

[noble mango]

the fucking sun

Gives a copy of the next planet card used
the fucking sun excluded

[marble hound]

Ah yes my favorite planet
The sun

[noble mango]

it's more like a star no?

[marble hound]

We should send man to it

[flat tiger]

sun is not a planet just like pluto is also not a planet

[noble mango]

actually ye that's a star

[marble hound]

Did you actually think it's a planet tho I was just messing around lol

[marble hound]

True

Moons that increase poker hands by one half

[noble mango]

guess well just stick with

earth jupiter mars venus saturn ur anus venus i gorfot eris planet X planet idk

[marble hound]

Oh wait Venus doesn't have any moons does it

[tacit stream]

yeah, we can just do it at nighttime

[naive frigate]

Yo i got the best idea ever

What if for april fools

You could turn on a setting

Where every hand contains a flush version

So like

2 pair flush

[noble mango]

Flush card

[marble hound]

And all the fool tarot cards are April from TMNT

[naive frigate]

Exactly

That would be fire

[marble hound]

A high flush

[noble mango]

Flush Four
Toilet Flush

[marble hound]

Flushed Away

[noble mango]

that coule be a joker

[naive frigate]

Four of a flush

[marble hound]

And then we can get the Fuller House

[tacit stream]

The Clog (Boss Blind)
No hands containing Flush allowed.

[marble hound]

Don't forget about the Flush Flush

[zinc sigil]

Isnt that just bullshit

Who plays flushes

[flat tiger]

Flush Card
2 of a Kind
Trairs
Four Cards
Same Suit
|

[naive frigate]

The straight flush flush

[noble mango]

Toilet
0.25x mult per blind
resets if hand contains a flush

[marble hound]

Sounds like a song from the 1950s

[flat tiger]

its worse then throwback

[marble hound]

Throwback
Heh
Wouldn't it be funny

Pffft

Wouldn't it be funny if

Teehee

[naive frigate]

April fools challenge
Start with Toilet Joker
Every hand type has a flush variant

[marble hound]

Call the challenge Down the Drain

[naive frigate]

You onto something

[marble hound]

No I'm not

[naive frigate]

Thunk should lowk hire us

[tacit stream]

Fixed Final Boss Blind for challenge:
Golden Toilet: No Hands allowed until a Straight Flush is discarded.

[flat tiger]

just have a toilet joker that resets if played hand conatins a flush

[naive frigate]

Holy shi 😭

Better pray for that el primo joker

[zinc sigil]

I just realized there arent any easter eggs in balatro

[marble hound]

Guys I got a totally original idea for a joker
It's a Medusa joker
YOULL NEVER GUESS WHAT IT DOES

[flat tiger]

if you only look at the top of the ice cream

[naive frigate]

Well there is an egg

[zinc sigil]

Like if u score five of a kind 2 of clubs the game explodes

Or something

[naive frigate]

Why the fuck would it do that

[marble hound]

Seinfeld's apartment address

[zinc sigil]

I dont fucking know

[naive frigate]

Son

[zinc sigil]

[marble hound]

That's a joke son

Boy I say BOY

[zinc sigil]

But like any easter egg wouldve been cool

[naive frigate]

It's ok we'll all die in 15 days anyway

[zinc sigil]

?

[marble hound]

Sorry do you mean like a literal Easter egg or

[naive frigate]

Don't worry about it

[marble hound]

Like an Easter egg as in a secret

[flat tiger]

so secret its in the game already

[marble hound]

Balatro doesn't really have a lot of secrets

I'd say if anything most of the Easter eggs come from figuring out why the jokers have the abilities they have

But idk if that really counts

[noble mango]

lol
who could have guess
the evolution of a scarecrow is a literal surface to air missile

[marble hound]

What

Lmao

[zinc sigil]

Yea

[noble mango]

encountered it in a silly farming game

[glad scroll]

FINALLY

[zinc sigil]

I guess cavendish is an easter egg

[glad scroll]

i was trying to get it for ages

[zinc sigil]

Bro I will never get that one

[glad scroll]

why not

[zinc sigil]

20 cards in one game

gtfoh

[flat tiger]

because you dont want to get the first vourcher

[glad scroll]

not one game

total

[marble hound]

Idk that if that really counts but sure close enough

[glad scroll]

but they have to be bought from the shop specifically

not the like card packs

[zinc sigil]

Oh

This hasnt moved from eleven

[glad scroll]

yeah

[zinc sigil]

Yea nvm the pic then

[crystal topaz]

Is there ever a reason to skip a blind?

[marble hound]

Negative ta-

[turbid nova]

ante 1 investment tag 🔥

[zinc sigil]

Investment tag in anaglyph for the joker unlock

[glad scroll]

because you probably skip magic trick voucher and havent bought cards from the shop at all

[zinc sigil]

Yea

[glad scroll]

well there's your answer

[crystal topaz]

What does it do?

[flat tiger]

3 levels of main hand, keep peraishable, first small blind, investment tag, double tag, negative skip for stickers, etc etc

[zinc sigil]

Like I said nvm the pic

[glad scroll]

yeah

[turbid nova]

it gives you $25 when you beat the boss blind

[zinc sigil]

Yeah

[crystal topaz]

Ooh damn

Yeah I can see that being worth it hahaha

[turbid nova]

and you should be able to beat ante 1 jokerless most of the time

[glad scroll]

now i have to get only one more joker and i will have full collection of everything

[flat tiger]

i do holo skip and foil skip if its first small blind of a run

[marble hound]

I wonder if Batman would like Balatro

[flat tiger]

investment/pair level/high card lv too

[crystal topaz]

Yeah it definitely feels like that

[glad scroll]

would probably give him ptsd

[marble hound]

Real

[turbid nova]

reaching the interest cap that early is great

[marble hound]

What would you do if Balatro parody exist and it was called uh

Balonkio

And it costed 50 yen

[noble mango]

balala :

[flat tiger]

you can do that if you play dave the diver

[marble hound]

Dang the Diver

That's my new Sonic OC

[flat tiger]

the mini balatro

[turbid nova]

why am I getting mogged by the ancient joker

[marble hound]

Wee Joker finally has friends

[turbid nova]

they added dlss 5 to balatro 🤯

[marble hound]

Now he has people that can come over and play Wee Sports

[noble mango]

there's a ripoff already
named joker poker balala

[marble hound]

I know lol

Is that even still up

[noble mango]

and there's the other
cardlike

on roblox

that one is somewhat better than balala but balatro is still the og
(at least in playable thing)

[marble hound]

Of course

But why play any of those when you could just go to Vegas

[flat tiger]

tell people you have a flush 5 and get thrown out of the casino

[tranquil steppe]

Wii bowling still slaps

[marble hound]

Facts

[noble mango]

you can't set vegas on fire by eating bananas, planets, burning your deck , having 37 king of spades with red seal made out of pure gold and steel while inviting diceased jesters and having blueprint, a shortcut and a literal rocket at your table

[marble hound]

It especially slaps your TV screen /j

[crystal topaz]

Let's see if I can manage to beat red stake today

[marble hound]

Well you could
But you probably don't wanna do that

[naive frigate]

Yes because a trip to vegas is less expensive than a phone or a pc to play roblox on

Work smarter not harder

[marble hound]

Well duh

Who needs games when you got real life bruh
Human experience is free my man
Anyways I'm gonna go bite into a tree

[crystal topaz]

These kinda skips aren't worth it are they?

[hardy horizon]

you will not catch me buying playing cards from the shop ❤️‍🩹

[marble hound]

Pretty sure most skips aren't worth it

[tranquil steppe]

There are a lot of videos from when it first came out of people throwing wiimotes through their tvs

[flat tiger]

rare and uncommon is never worth the skip

[crystal topaz]

Atleast that's what I thought to remember that these are kinda noob bait

[echo sphinx]

not really

[noble mango]

oh ye speaking of which

who woulda thought you can make "homemade fries" using crude oil and potatoes

[marble hound]

Yes I know that's why I said that

[naive frigate]

Rare sometimes is tho

[echo sphinx]

and it gets worse in higher stakes

[turbid nova]

pulling up to the poker table

[marble hound]

It's funny how many people just choose to ignore the wrist strap

Like it's there for a reason bruh

[flat tiger]

you are better off seeing 2 jokers then recoll for $5 then having one roll of a rare

[zinc sigil]

LITERALLY

[crystal topaz]

Okay okay good to know, I'll just keep asking "stupid" questions today hahaha

[echo sphinx]

onzz
keep the "stupid" questions going

[naive frigate]

No but then you'll sell the rare one and re roll so you see 3 jokers

Profit

[flat tiger]

you lost a shop

[echo sphinx]

rental:

[marble hound]

There's no such thing as stupid questions, right?
-# see the joke is that was a stupid question

[hardy horizon]

clogs up the shop so much and half the time it's some straight bullshit cards 🥀

[echo sphinx]

xd

[marble hound]

MF doin the Speed face

[echo sphinx]

or hm

[flat tiger]

i dont even want planet merchant

[echo sphinx]

take out a photo album

[naive frigate]

And then you pull out a campfire and sell all your taro cards

[echo sphinx]

photophotophotophotophotophotophotophotophotophotophotophoto and play a king pair

[marble hound]

And an illegally tampered voting ticket

Or whatever it's called

Is it a ticket idk

[turbid nova]

the guys at the poker table after I burn 5 cards from the deck and earn $25

[cloud sinew]

is that what you think chad is?

[tranquil steppe]

The original wrist straps didn’t have the tightening part lock in place. It just slid up or down

[marble hound]

Well yeah that's what it is isn't it

Like a voting ballot thing

[crystal topaz]

So this is my shop round 1 I used to just buy the buffoon pack and hope for the best but I think I just don't buy anything right?

[noble mango]

the guys at the poker table after i magically turn the left card into the right card

[turbid nova]

it's a ballot with the punch out thingy still hanging

[naive frigate]

Yoooo photocard maybe photochad(joking)

[cloud sinew]

No.
It's a ballot, but it's not illegally tampered with. It just means it wasnt punched through properly

[flat tiger]

you know its tampered when you cant see the hole from the back

[echo sphinx]

generally buying things helps improve scoring

[marble hound]

Well whatever it's still tampered with or something like that

[cloud sinew]

i take square

[crystal topaz]

I mean first ante should be doable without joker right?

[echo sphinx]

sometimes.

[naive frigate]

The guys at the poker table after i pull out a DNA and give myself the copy of the card i just threw away

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt mean its best to do it with no joker

[crystal topaz]

Fair

So you would go with square here?

[marble hound]

The guys at the poker table when I start talking to the joker card I slipped into the deck

[cloud sinew]

Yes

[flat tiger]

square is not the best thing to get but its a good thing to get ante 1

[noble mango]

the guys at the poker table after i draw 5 pieces of exodia

[crystal topaz]

I'll just mess around with square a bit and just see how it goes

[turbid nova]

the other guys at the poker table when I put a rock I found outside into the deck

[naive frigate]

the guys at the poker table after i drink 5 beers and give myself 10 tarot cards

[echo sphinx]

time to greed its value mmm

[marble hound]

The guys at the poker table after I rip their faces off and give them new faces that are sexier than before

[tranquil steppe]

To the shadow realm he goes

[marble hound]

"rock beats paper" lookin ah deck

Oh wait paper beats rock
Wow I'm tired

[echo sphinx]

the guys at the poker table after i raise my fist

[turbid nova]

ts why stone cards suck

[marble hound]

Look it doesn't even make sense why TF does paper or rock beat each other at anything

[turbid nova]

I like 5 card hands

[naive frigate]

the guys at the poker table after i put a glass piece in their deck and then when they play it i break it

[stark charm]

hmmmm interesting choice , but i guess i am keeping rebate

[marble hound]

Really a rock could just as easily crumple up a piece of paper as a pair of scissors, arguably easier

[echo sphinx]

INSTNAT TAKE

fuck your mailed

[crystal topaz]

Would this be a good buy rn?

[noble mango]

can i beat balatro while beating inscrypted while beating yugioh master duel while beating pvz heroes while beating heartstone while beating pokemon tgc

[stark charm]

i have magic trick

[naive frigate]

the guys at the poker table after i burn 2 of their cards

[flat tiger]

no, doing hack raw is waste of money more times then not

[marble hound]

Can I beat my opponent at a game of wrestling before my Balatro expert wins a run

[echo sphinx]

i have me an uncommon for bbc value that spits out seals

[waxen stream]

I black deck

[turbid nova]

isn't magic trick still bugged

and doesn't give seals

idk if it's that one or the upgraded version

[marble hound]

"Can I win 10 times at a casino before my friend completes a Balatro run?"

[cloud sinew]

illusion is the bugged one

[turbid nova]

yeah that one

[cloud sinew]

also it isnt just once

[turbid nova]

worst voucher in the game rn probably

[cloud sinew]

illusion also isnt affected by hone or glow up

[echo sphinx]

illusion is fine

[marble hound]

It's just an illusion

[cloud sinew]

it literally doesnt work

[echo sphinx]

its just that magic trick is so bad

[noble mango]

where;s the antimatter

[waxen stream]

didn't find it

[echo sphinx]

that illusion also becomes super bad too

[flat tiger]

its not fine because it means you bought somethign you shouldnt

[echo sphinx]

(and its bugged great)

[marble hound]

Guys guys clearly the worst voucher is Blank

[turbid nova]

antimatter sucks

blank literally does nothing

[cloud sinew]

doesnt harm you beyond taking $10 from you

[marble hound]

I was joking lol

[echo sphinx]

ten dollars < shop riddled with uselss 2 of clubs

[crystal topaz]

Abstract joker at the start of ante 2 seems solid no?

[cloud sinew]

it does

[marble hound]

Gorilla Joker

[crystal topaz]

Then I have a +mult and a +chips joker

[marble hound]

What's the monkey doing in a jester outfit

Ape, whatever

[flat tiger]

show up after cavendish breaks, auto wins against ante 8 boss

[marble hound]

Gorilla Joker: +1 banana for every banana

[tranquil steppe]

Abstract is solid in almost any circumstance. It’s one of the top tier jokers

[echo sphinx]

it should just be 30x mult why autowin one specific blind lol

[stark charm]

why is there so many attractive choice 😭

[echo sphinx]

MAILED

[flat tiger]

bye bye mail in

[stark charm]

bye rebate yeah

[echo sphinx]

the best time to kill mailed in is the shop with cert

[marble hound]

Rebate

[echo sphinx]

the second best time to kill mailed in is NOW

[stark charm]

blueprint hehe

[crystal topaz]

Okay that's good to know

[naive frigate]

Why does the blueprint look like that im crine

[crystal topaz]

Misprint seems kinda alright early game but once you have a solid build going it's not good anymore?

[marble hound]

Misprint is both the best and the worst

And also meh

And also above average
And also below average

[cloud sinew]

its not good to rely on in the long run

[echo sphinx]

kinda ye, it provides.... i would say fixed but it kinda isnt. not good to rely on later

[marble hound]

Especially since it can give you a flat zero

[echo sphinx]

nobody teach the misprint tech

[marble hound]

It's not even worth using

[cloud sinew]

1/24 of the time, which is better than bloodstone

[tranquil steppe]

Or an inflated 0

[cloud sinew]

misprint tech is free info

[crystal topaz]

That's exactly why I skipped it (also because I hadn't maxed interest yet)

Ig it would always give a +3 mult rn combined with abstract joker

[stark charm]

why is there so many good joker in this run i am crine

[crystal topaz]

But still I didn't think it was worth it

[flat tiger]

misprint is good when you are doing multiple hands, its trash if you need to rely on one hand

[stark charm]

please spare it to other run

[echo sphinx]

instant skip

rip

so much tempting jokers lol

[marble hound]

I've been needing a new tire

[cloud sinew]

this is arguably better than blueprint there

[flat tiger]

dont think you want card sharp with this? you can only buff holo as much as you can anyway

[echo sphinx]

if the holo is 4.5 then ehhhh

[cloud sinew]

it likely isnt considering theyre copying baseball

[echo sphinx]

which i believe it is cuz he took the voucher with mailed in to support it

[marble hound]

I always thought it was interesting how it's called Card Sharp and not Card Shark

[flat tiger]

he cant get out of holo so the only thing he can really do is spam buying cards

[echo sphinx]

fair but what kind of hologram scaling warrant sthis

[stark charm]

sons

[echo sphinx]

lol

[flat tiger]

you dont want DNA, DNA is bad for most cases

[ebon condor]

how? baseball is guaranteed to be more already

[echo sphinx]

u could take it and sticker it

[stark charm]

2 hologram but since it is ante 7 imma skip

[echo sphinx]

baseball is 2.25 amp given the setup

its literally 5 cards

[crystal topaz]

How good do y'all think delayed gratification is?

I think it's solid no?

[noble mango]

has anybody did hacked weebonnacci

[flat tiger]

hiker

[cloud sinew]

no it isnt. baseball is ~3x and adding card sharp over BP means card sharp is an effective 4.5x when it activatez

[stark charm]

eh meh

[shell dagger]

not good compared to other econs

[echo sphinx]

should be good for your setup

[echo sphinx]

3. sometihng

[flat tiger]

hiker is uncommon

[echo sphinx]

9 card is still kinda hard t obelieve

[ebon condor]

thats true mb

[crystal topaz]

For my setup I also figured it was very solid and I just need an econ rn

[noble mango]

delgrat is mid

BUT ECON IS ECON

[tranquil steppe]

No. Especially if their hologram is > 3x

[crystal topaz]

How many econ jokers are there?

[flat tiger]

baseball is giving ~X3

[ebon condor]

still, i think the upside isnt worth the potential death to eye or sm

[marble hound]

Well there's golden joker

Uh

Rocket

[echo sphinx]

holgoram need sto be like 4.5 to match

[marble hound]

To the Moon

[tranquil steppe]

Or 4.5 rather

[crystal topaz]

Parking

[marble hound]

Rebate

[tranquil steppe]

Yea

[cloud sinew]

It likely isnt considering theyre copying baseball

[stark charm]

change my mind i am taking dna not like i am gonna lose

[marble hound]

Satellite

[echo sphinx]

@stark charm whats your holo looking like

[marble hound]

Does Egg count as economy it probably does right

[noble mango]

delayed golden midas satelite rocket faceless vagabond moon parking gift gem egg in rebate

[flat tiger]

even rental is if you have space, temprance value is also money

[cloud sinew]

there are 15 direct econ jokers

[marble hound]

There's...
I'm gonna assume Bull doesn't count

[echo sphinx]

probably like 10% of the jokers?

or 15% idk

id just say 25 and call it a day

[marble hound]

Bull isn't an economy joker is it
It's more like just a joker that benefits from the economy itself

[echo sphinx]

"not that many but you can find one in most runs"

[crystal topaz]

Okay that's good to know

[marble hound]

Same with bootstraps I would assume

Does credit card count

[flat tiger]

trash strap

[tranquil steppe]

Riff raff is an Econ joker

[marble hound]

Is it though

[cloud sinew]

the # of indirect econ jokers isnt agreed upon though as it's not a well defined term

[flat tiger]

it is, it gives you 4-5$ per round

[tranquil steppe]

Chicot is an Econ joker since he’s a nice $10

[marble hound]

Well yeah but

[crystal topaz]

Yeah fair

[marble hound]

It's giving you money via selling jokers

I wouldn't directly call that an economy joker

[stark charm]

ante 8 wee

[crystal topaz]

Okay this is the point where I kinda get lost on what to buy

[flat tiger]

you dont need to spend, and it give $4-5 per round worst case, something good that you dont need to pay for best case

[marble hound]

At that point you could say 8 Ball is an economy joker

[stark charm]

temperance value

[noble mango]

direct cash econ joker
golden, rebate, faceless, to the moon, i forgot, there's more, another one, del grat, trading card

non direct
egg, gift, sixth sense, perkeo, every legendary, every joker (sell price), riff raff, midas, dna

there's a shit ton more

[cloud sinew]

well yes

[naive frigate]

Something 😭

[tranquil steppe]

Oh true

[naive frigate]

$45

[cloud sinew]

tarot gen is econ imo

[noble mango]

ther'es nore

[crystal topaz]

I figured that hahaha

[marble hound]

You could say Perkeo is an economy joker cause you can just sell the duplicated card

[cloud sinew]

Yes

[noble mango]

are you selling my boy hermit

[crystal topaz]

I should always aim to stay above 25 no?

[tranquil steppe]

Yes

[turbid nova]

burglar is econ bc of the extra hand money

[flat tiger]

its a shit econ joker, unlike vagabond whichi s a good econ joker

[naive frigate]

I am not sure but you have no eco

You need some eco

[echo sphinx]

silly question
what would the figure be if the condition for being an econ joker is providing literally any value

[marble hound]

Default Joker is an econ joker because you can sell it for money /j

[flat tiger]

not always but most of the time

[cloud sinew]

they have delgrat

[naive frigate]

Oh

[tranquil steppe]

Econ is a myth

[naive frigate]

Oh well

[stark charm]

they really want my hologram buffed huh??

[noble mango]

joeker

[cloud sinew]

150, technically :(

[echo sphinx]

fuck

i forgot hands is monis

[crystal topaz]

Do I just get raised fist and do a reroll?

[flat tiger]

why would you get out of baseball

[echo sphinx]

ok ill define it a bit further

things that aren't exclusively scoring

[cloud sinew]

because DNA is +0.5x a round for both holograms

[tranquil steppe]

And because bb is overrated

[flat tiger]

it is late enough that it wont make much difference, 3x3x3 is better then 4x4

[echo sphinx]

lol ye

[turbid nova]

that deck's about to have like 100 cards

[echo sphinx]

dna still stronger lol

[torpid notch]

should i let go of my strat to make the deck only diamonds or what i feel this could be a crazy good run

[marble hound]

Is Midas Mask an econ joker

[flat tiger]

yes

[marble hound]

So where does the definition stop

[cloud sinew]

they got DNA on round 17, i think it was worth it.

[flat tiger]

gold card is money

[tranquil steppe]

Every joker is Econ if you can sell it

[marble hound]

Cause in that case is Bull an econ joker

It encourages you to save money

[flat tiger]

it gives scoring it doesnt give you money

[cloud sinew]

when you start to take into account money saved from fewer hands spent via scoring more

[echo sphinx]

lets say the definition stops at exclusively scoring jokers

[turbid nova]

I remember getting into a debate of what does and doesn't count as scaling

[torpid notch]

should i pick up baron? or steel joker

[marble hound]

Well where does it get interesting cause it's literally just a matter of if it scales or not

[cloud sinew]

steel joker

[marble hound]

That seems pretty obvious

[stark charm]

yep 81 cards

[echo sphinx]

lol

is card sharp scaling ahh

[torpid notch]

not baron?

[marble hound]

Of course I suppose you could argue a card getting better in any aspect is scaling

[torpid notch]

and what should i let go of?

[cloud sinew]

no. baron doesnt do much for you and is very boss vulnerable

[turbid nova]

it scales from 1x to 3x and then resets

[torpid notch]

true true

[cloud sinew]

droll probably

[crystal topaz]

This would be so good if I had uncommon jokers...

[cloud sinew]

its not a scaler, it's boolean

[marble hound]

Hmm I don't think that really counts

[turbid nova]

yeah ik

[torpid notch]

ok ty ty

[marble hound]

That's like saying Loyalty Card is a scaling joker lol

[echo sphinx]

potential joker

[stark charm]

I LOVE GOLDCARD

[turbid nova]

but people brought up driver's license

[marble hound]

Hmm

[turbid nova]

that's clearly also boolean

[cloud sinew]

by balatrodle rules it is

[marble hound]

Drivers License I don't think counts

[stark charm]

+3$ +3$ +3$ +3$ +3$ +3$ +3$+3$ +3$

[marble hound]

I feel like if a joker goes from 0 immediately to a big number and then back to 0 or something like that it's not scaling

[crystal topaz]

Do I like buy it and hope I find some solid uncommon jokers later on?

[echo sphinx]

u could lol

[turbid nova]

hit the road when you discard 5 Jacks

[fringe nebula]

ante 2 shop 3

[cloud sinew]

holy shit

[echo sphinx]

xmult is the last thing to achieve john balatro biuld

[marble hound]

I was about to say there are exceptions

[echo sphinx]

WHAT

[marble hound]

I think Hit the Road should count as scaling

[tranquil steppe]

Eww

[turbid nova]

yeah

[echo sphinx]

my poor hit the road

[crystal topaz]

I mean worst case scenario it still gives +3 multi from abstract joker

[torpid notch]

can ankh create a copy of perkeo?

[cloud sinew]

yes

[torpid notch]

hmm

[echo sphinx]

poor campfire lol

[turbid nova]

let's just say scaling jokers should increase by a set amount each time their condition is activated

[echo sphinx]

not scaling

[stark charm]

abtract joker is scaling joker but hit the road is not (trust me bro)

[marble hound]

A joker turning on and off is not scaling

[flat tiger]

is obelisk not scaling now?

[marble hound]

That's just activating it

It is scaling

[turbid nova]

of course it is

[marble hound]

The main difference is whether or not you're turning a joker on or off

[stark charm]

you will eventually bound to get more negative joker so abstract joker is scaling joker

[echo sphinx]

LETS GO ABSTRACT JOKER

[cloud sinew]

I agree that abstract is scaling