🕹・game-discussion

[pale wolf]

oh license i guess if you count that

[wintry ice]

what's the second one

[waxen fable]

yeah forgot

[wintry ice]

i usually only see people say stone is just decent

oh vamp

yea that's a good option

though it nerfs glass so it's slightly worse on painted...

[pale wolf]

there needs to be a way to turn vampire off

[tranquil oyster]

every turn with marble adds one more card with no blue seal to your deck. every turn with marble shifts pairs from "basically guaranteed" to "perhaps a bit risky". stone cards ruin one of the best jokers in the game (blackboard). if you play simple hands, you're not going to get bottlenecked by chips. stone joker just gives you more of what you already have enough, vamp is using 2 jokers for x0.1 mult per turn. but yeah it's good if you have hologram

[vague elbow]

there is its called selling it

[pale wolf]

what if he didn't suck things when he was on the far left

[tranquil steppe]

#gotem

[wintry ice]

so basically it's nowhere near bottom 5

[ancient gyro]

psychic/eye/mouth/crimson

[eager prawn]

I mostly play it on plasma tho
Holo is an option

[cosmic sun]

ah yes I lose the function to put a stone card in my hand when using bb

[tranquil oyster]

what would be below? maybe credit card, but i can see cc being useful slightly more often.

[tranquil steppe]

Cc is good in an emergency. Plus it’s always free

[waxen fable]

credit card is never bottom 5

[pale wolf]

here comes the image

[ancient gyro]

i have a list

[wintry ice]

showman, idol, seance, bloodstone and baron are the usual bottom 5

[vague elbow]

yall are going to learn that trying to rank jokers like this is fruitless

[cosmic sun]

marble definitely gets boosted by holo

[waxen fable]

beautiful

[polar light]

perishable

[pale wolf]

mailed it and nailed it

[wintry ice]

with throwback following up and maybe the common 3oak jokers following up after that

[cosmic sun]

like a lot

[eager prawn]

Egg should be higher

[ancient gyro]

always
30% of the time

[waxen fable]

erm itz MY personal taste . do not judge me ❌ ❌

[ancient gyro]

this is accounting for gs in any condition

[wintry ice]

yes i do consider baron better than bloodstone in most situations found in gold stake

[ancient gyro]

eternal/perishable/rental

[eager prawn]

K

[polar light]

erosion and stencil and smeared and four fingers should not be there

[cosmic sun]

baron not limited to an abysmal hand

[wintry ice]

because steel is better than an inconsistent ancient joker

[ancient gyro]

make your case

[tranquil oyster]

i never understood why people rank baron so low. at its worst, it's 4 free steel cards, and it's really not that hard to scale it via death / strength / spectrals. it's clearly a bad rare, but not one of the worst cards in the game.

[ancient gyro]

have fun drawing them

[vague elbow]

baron and bloodstone are both pretty good they're just basically never their best cases

[polar light]

on ante 8, yeah

[ancient gyro]

and using it before your flat mult

[cosmic sun]

Baron is lucky dogshit below it exists

[tranquil oyster]

that also applies to 8 ball xd

[eager prawn]

Baron needs specific play style

[ancient gyro]

i don't outright lose if I miss my 8s

[spring shard]

Baron and The Idol is better in Erratic can yall state what deck and stake were on

[waxen fable]

good luck drawing 4/52 and trying to scale a really slow hand type at once

[cosmic sun]

Ah yes not getting a tarot vs not scoring and dying

[wintry ice]

feels weird to see summit down there with how you treat common unconditional +mult

[cosmic sun]

Same logic applies to Bloodstone vs Rough Gem btw

[tranquil oyster]

yeah absolutely, it's one of those jokers you really need to get through a pack / judgement in the first two antes. extremely situational.

[cosmic sun]

Which is why Rough Gem mogs

[wintry ice]

oh my god this keyboard sucks stop trying to highlight your ai thingy

[waxen fable]

guys i dont get why ppl hate bloodstone! u just gotta turn 100% of the deck into Heartz.....

[pale wolf]

steels arent that great either tbh

[eager prawn]

Not that hard tho

[ancient gyro]

you still have a risk of missing your hand

[wintry ice]

your massive fucking supercomputers needed to run this worthless neural network do not matter

[ancient gyro]

for chips

[cosmic sun]

Situational? Selling Baron is pretty not situational 🦅

[polar light]

smeared and four finger help with making straights or flushes or straight flushes a lot (the straight flush is so much easier to get). Erosion can be a good grab midgame after you get an immolate and it scales well with hanged man/trading card. stencil is great with ankh or just blue seals

[eager prawn]

Is egg considered as food joker?

[ancient gyro]

the part of the game that x mult does the least on

[waxen fable]

yes

[wintry ice]

4 free steel isn't too useful when most scoring comes from a source that steel cards don't affect

[tranquil oyster]

four fingers gets so turbomogged by shortcut it's just sad.

[wintry ice]

it's good if you have a lot of blue seals or are running a 5 card hand

[polar light]

both are uncommons I think

[waxen fable]

four fingers has a straightflush niche

[pale wolf]

I don't think you can really look at Baron the same way as normal xmult though

[icy hollow]

Everything is great with blue seals 💔 (i guess chips are less valuable)

[wintry ice]

but it's not guarranteed that you're doing that and keeping your kings

[tranquil oyster]

yeah, you buy it as a lategame goal to deckfix towards. doesnt provide much early on ofc

[waxen fable]

even then if i want strush id use shortcut and suit deckfix

[wintry ice]

can't hate some eye mitigation

[pale wolf]

Early game it's functionally terrible + mult

[vague elbow]

pre-joker xmult means you need planets (or stm/raised fist in baron case)

[wintry ice]

flushes aren't that useful

[pale wolf]

or on card plus mult like Fibonacci

[icy hollow]

Less valuable but still valuable

[ancient gyro]

smeared fingers are not purchasable in every condition straights/flushes are nowhere near meta

erosion requires very specific tools to scale and is not permanent scaling unlike hologram, another meta defining joker

stencil requires you to hold less jokers which goes against its scoring consistency

[wintry ice]

stencil usually sticks to 2x

[tranquil oyster]

erosions feels bad to use bc you always open card packs to fish for blue seals

[wintry ice]

which is fine but it's a duo that takes up 2 slots

[ancient gyro]

that's not how you play the game

to win

[wintry ice]

playing speculatively isn't a good idea

[waxen fable]

you dont always fish for blue seals

[ancient gyro]

let me pick a late game joker only to die to some random shit early

[errant hull]

We play the game to lose

[wintry ice]

it'a better to focus towards getting the resources to get past the early antes before doing anything for lategame

[ebon condor]

its all econ all the way down

[pale wolf]

Would you say a rental hologram isn't a good first Joker to take then??

[wintry ice]

this is what makes scaling mult jokers so useful

[vague elbow]

yes

[wintry ice]

they help with both

[ancient gyro]

my bad, my business isnt appreciated here

[wintry ice]

maybe with investment

[tranquil oyster]

"buy it" was wrong to use here, it's eight dollars. rather: you roll it through judgement and keep it.
(plus, like half of all rares do nothing early... obelisk? dna? idol?)

[pale wolf]

but what if it was foil

[ancient gyro]

i wouldn't take it

[pale wolf]

I'm just joking around this is one of my incidents

[wintry ice]

then i'd keep it until selling it increases my interest

[ancient gyro]

constellation incident

[vague elbow]

if it was foil maybe. even if it was holo id take it

[wintry ice]

i don't need something that scores much as baron does to win

i just need 400k-1.2m

[ebon condor]

if you got a holographic scaling xmult rental a1 you could MAYBE get away w it

[vague elbow]

the rental part is kinda grody tho

[wintry ice]

i'd still prefer like

[cosmic sun]

I would buy an Obelisk early because I can predictably scale it

[wintry ice]

an eternal summit or something like that

[cosmic sun]

With Baron you are just throwing most of the time

[ancient gyro]

let me reiterate that my tier list is for a8 gs rotating high win rate/win streaks

[pale wolf]

so called "gold stake players" saying interest is the biggest priority but then get excited at vagabond in buffoon pack??? are they idiots

[ebon condor]

ruth nuke

[vague elbow]

i would not take an obelisk early

[ancient gyro]

generally you try not to buy xmult with very specific exceptions as cash is king

[cosmic sun]

Baron bias is cause ppl pick Baron more often than they should

💀

[vague elbow]

oh yeah i mean i just think this is an overcorrection

its not very good most of the time but its not like, unuseable tbh

again stm and raised fist exist

i wouldnt build for it

or expect it

[pale wolf]

shoot the moon seems really annoying to try and balance with Baron

[ancient gyro]

yeah baron bottom 5 still technically has 3 use cases with other jokers and what not

[wintry ice]

i'd take one from a buffoon pack

[ancient gyro]

i rather build for stm if I had to ditch one of the two for stickers

[vague elbow]

its really not

[ancient gyro]

even with fist

[cosmic sun]

Buying Obelisk early just depends for me, sometimes I have the support for it already

[vague elbow]

play high cards for stm get some levels in it and get a couple strengths and you can make the switch in like ante 6 or 7 or 8

[pale wolf]

I think fist kind of complements it nicely cuz at least you're not looking for a specific rank in addition to another specific rank

[ancient gyro]

you're having to force inflate two ranks while removing a couple tarot options for the right draws

[cosmic sun]

And that could easily beat the cost of losing interest

[pale wolf]

and Kings are at the highest besides Ace anyways

[vague elbow]

this is, imo, the main use case for baron in gold stake, a ramping for shoot the moon

[ancient gyro]

ive had better success ignoring baron completely

[vague elbow]

for sure

[ancient gyro]

when both are in the room

[vague elbow]

its a rare, id avoid centering any builds around rares typically

[night bridge]

HTR is so fun tho

[ancient gyro]

queens and 8s are usually my most common speculative fixes

black suits

preferably spades on queens

[pale wolf]

what

[vocal rose]

woah there

[waxen fable]

this is implying u are never building towards obelisk

[vocal rose]

what

[waxen fable]

son

zon

[vague elbow]

don't call me that

[waxen fable]

ok

[cosmic sun]

Maybe bad framing 💀

[waxen fable]

daughter

[ancient gyro]

mister obbylicks and campflame

[magic mural]

i beat orange stake checkered deck AND unlocked invisible joker :D

[vocal rose]

me when I get vagabond and I dont center my value off of it

[ancient gyro]

sonette?

[pale wolf]

wee, htr, obelisk, etc

[vague elbow]

when i say dont build centering a rare i mean speculatively 😭

[waxen fable]

genius

[ancient gyro]

ok I'm not gonna speculatively build 2s

ruins my fist value

[vocal rose]

I see makes sense

so you arent speculatively making 2s

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[vocal rose]

thats reasonable

[cosmic sun]

Technically Obby is a route you can usually keep in mind

[spring shard]

When will you have a wee with fist?

[waxen fable]

how is early obelisk speculative

[ancient gyro]

or jacks but they have common joker use cases too

[cosmic sun]

Maybe keeping shit enhancements for Driver's License given nothing else

[vague elbow]

those were two separate messages sent like 5 minutes apart omg

[cosmic sun]

Or BBC

[vocal rose]

like if I find obelisk early on im spamming flushes or two pairs to build around it later on in the run

[ancient gyro]

who knows how early they found their blue seal

[vague elbow]

my reasoning for obelisk is this: i dont take it early because i have no guarantee i can ramp into it by then. what if my +mult ends up being supernova? id rather take it closer to the midgame when i have a good idea of where my scoring is coming from

[cosmic sun]

I mean the typical bait jokers on the other hand are speculative

And the rest are actually just things you consider every run

[vocal rose]

you're saying this in a vacuum where you're CHOOSING when to find obelisk

you don't get that luxury at all in balatro

[waxen fable]

hes

[cosmic sun]

Oh yeah Steel and Glass joker I try to seek out if possible

[waxen fable]

yes

[ancient gyro]

you might run into an option where you pick either obbylicks or burnt for survivability

[vocal rose]

that early obelisk might be your only source of reasonable x mult

[cosmic sun]

Adds more xmult to the pool

[vague elbow]

yeah. that was the premise. that it was earlygame

[vocal rose]

for the entire run

[ancient gyro]

insert my a2 obyliks scaling

[vocal rose]

so im not understanding not picking an early obelisk BECAUSE you prefer to find it mid game

[ancient gyro]

pic

[vocal rose]

fire

[brave fox]

Finally, blue print and driver's license carried my score

That took forever lol

[vocal rose]

you probably WONT find it again

[vague elbow]

i dont prefer to find anything midgame i just dont want to take it before i know it will be usable.

[waxen fable]

just relying on pure coincidence

[vague elbow]

by earlygame yall mean ante 1 right??

[spring shard]

The only risk for obelisk is accidentally playing your most played hand

[waxen fable]

guys ill scale 20 times pairs first iol find it later

itll come to me

[vague elbow]

not at all what I'm talking about

[vocal rose]

so if your criteria is not wanting to take something before its usable

[pale wolf]

there's other risks like running out of hands to play

[ancient gyro]

a1-2 I'll take a decent flat mult joker over obbylicks

[vague elbow]

before i know it will be useable

are you all completely ignoring the supernova in the room

[ancient gyro]

not gonna happen among gs veterans

[vocal rose]

uh yeah I am because I'm not gonna skip over an obelisk IN CASE supernova appears

[waxen fable]

yes because there are like more than 3 jokers that work the same way differently

[ancient gyro]

what's the other option

[pale wolf]

especially not before they save scum it

[wintry ice]

i honestly got more use from it supporting a straight build

[waxen fable]

all roads lead to the superblud

[vocal rose]

im sorry but thats just how you lose runs

[vocal rose]

no clue

thats just their hypothetical situation

[wintry ice]

though that was on painted deck which is probably the best deck for it in high stakes

[ancient gyro]

i don't think I've ever savescummed an accidental obbylicks reset before

[vocal rose]

I think its valid if you've already committed to supernova and THEN found obelisk

[pale wolf]

I've done it multiple times for the same hand in a row 🦓

[vocal rose]

but not the other way around

[cosmic sun]

I save scum misinputs

[vague elbow]

again i am talking about ante 1. i will probably take an obelisk at any point after that

[ancient gyro]

in my situation early game I'd rather save money than pick up obbylicks

[vocal rose]

same

[waxen fable]

well in that case u already have a build path where dats incompatible

[cosmic sun]

Definitely a bigger issue on mobile 💀

[tranquil oyster]

supernova is like reverse luchador, guaranteed eye on ante 7.

[vocal rose]

very true but I mean the situation "starts" us with obelisk I presume

[waxen fable]

ante 1 still take whether supernova appears or not . if supernova ends up being my permanent source of mult with a better unconditional xmult option appearing id just sell it

[vague elbow]

im not spending my money on something even a little bit speculative that early. i wont take a hologram or constellation even. that was the original premise. the question was are you taking a rental hologram in ante 1

[pale wolf]

I wouldn't buy an a1 obelisk but ill take it over plenty of other things in a pack

[ancient gyro]

an option is usually given with two choices, what's the alternative to obbylicks in early game

[vocal rose]

in a pack I'm probably taking it over PLENTY of things

[echo owl]

haha 67

[wintry ice]

i'd take supernova and then try to see if i move off of it if i get another unconditional mult joker

[waxen fable]

obelisk ante 1 take means u already have a path to potentially build towards

[waxen fable]

yes

[vague elbow]

i would take literally any +mult over it im sorry i want to live

[ancient gyro]

same usually

[wintry ice]

i also would

[waxen fable]

not wrong

[ancient gyro]

depending on condition

[wintry ice]

but that's not something that always happens so

yea

[vague elbow]

id also take any econ lol

id probably take chips

[ancient gyro]

yeah this is just xmult in early game problem. more things are prioritized in that moment

yeah

[vague elbow]

that was the entire context of the conversation

[ancient gyro]

ight cool

i never rly disagreed

what happened to the mfs that wanted to change my joker rankings

[vocal rose]

I guess any other joker in a pack that would be more beneficial than that obelisk because I don't think there was any specified parameters over what the other option would be for not skipping obelisk

[compact niche]

would this copy walkie talkie twice?

[vague elbow]

yes

[ancient gyro]

I just dumbed it down to xmult in early game

[vocal rose]

yeah thats what my mind was already doing

[vague elbow]

i think the only xmult joker id want early is like stencil or maybe one of the rare hand-based ones cause they score enough to oneshot the big blind and boss blind

[echo owl]

Fellow deltarune fan

[vocal rose]

depends on what deck im playing

[echo owl]

Yes

[vocal rose]

if im on yellow checkered blue im probably taking that x mult

or painted

[ancient gyro]

if the other option is money, chip scaling, or mult, I'll take that alternative.

if not, obbylicks is the pickup for early game. mid game mostly an auto pick most of the time with average context

[vague elbow]

yeah true it does depend on the deck

[ancient gyro]

yeah

blue/checkered/some erratic seeds have more leeway

[vague elbow]

idk how but i got C+ while only getting a white sticker on obelisk. not for lack of trying i took it whenever it was even minimally reasonable

[ancient gyro]

it happens

[vague elbow]

good joker it just never appeared 😔

[ancient gyro]

meanwhile I stickered 4 legendaries in 6 runs

on my 7th profile

[vocal rose]

god I love vagabond

[waxen fable]

it will appear when you are forced to choose between obelisk or supernova on shop 1

[vague elbow]

like i use runner and pants and square and groker all the time that kinda run is just begging for an obby and it just hates me and then i play 5000 pairs with a supernova and its like hai ^-^

[lunar zealot]

You can still use nova with obelisk

You'll probably die but you can do it

[vague elbow]

i dont want to die

[lunar zealot]

have you ever truly lived?

Have you ever played balatro with your life on the line

[vague elbow]

yes

[wintry ice]

is that mumei

[vague elbow]

i live in balatro art online

[lunar zealot]

no and also legally i can't send the image in this server

[ancient gyro]

don't you have a human heart

[ancient gyro]

oh

[vague elbow]

anyway another joker i wouldnt take in ante 1 is throwback. anyone else agree

[lunar zealot]

For sure

[vague elbow]

i just don't skip like ever. i played anaglyph as my last deck for C+ and my average run had 0.25 skips

[lunar zealot]

Have you considered that skipping in general sucks

like empirically really

[waxen fable]

guys i thinkskipping is bad besides like one situation

[ancient gyro]

i regret image searching that

[wintry ice]

that's sus...

[lunar zealot]

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT

[ancient gyro]

i was curious

to taste it

[vague elbow]

2nd graders when asked what their least favorite pe activity is:

[icy hollow]

Lol

50 supernova with 75 grimbo

[vocal rose]

fuck

[ancient gyro]

oh

[icy hollow]

Back to back soul runs lol

[vocal rose]

save money or mercury + pack

[pale wolf]

kayaba: if you die in the game you die in real life
me:

[vocal rose]

greed or average safe play

[pale wolf]

no way i almost let an sao reference get past me in balatrocord

[vague elbow]

LMAO

[pale wolf]

nobody even knows my pfp is an sao character

[ancient gyro]

pack

[vocal rose]

I died

[pale wolf]

i pack

[ancient gyro]

[shell dagger]

Overstock 😍

[humble gulch]

I love paint brush

[vague elbow]

id buy overstock and die horribly but you should make a good play instead

[ancient gyro]

dies

[vague elbow]

why buy overstock when you can just play on zodiac deck

im the real thinker.

[ancient gyro]

30 dollars worth of value

yellow can never

[vocal rose]

so the arm did some bad things to me

[pale wolf]

woah

wait im on white stake

wtf

[vague elbow]

and all the rerolls you save

[vocal rose]

BRUH

[pale wolf]

🦓 this is useless to me

[wraith slate]

crazy certificate pull 4 card straight flush lmao

[vague elbow]

red card is useless thats true <- user is joking

[vocal rose]

make user gay

[cursive crater]

odds of that happening are low

[versed sable]

wtf lmao

[pale wolf]

oh ok then

[vague elbow]

ive been interested in an eternalless madness run where you find random jokers every shop and try to survive. challenge run type deal

[icy fable]

Really low actualy

[cursive crater]

is it lower than a nat negative legendary though?

[wraith slate]

1/54^4

[humble gulch]

Fuck yes

[wraith slate]

or about 1 in 10 million

[humble gulch]

Huh

[vocal rose]

wtf?

[cursive crater]

the real question is

[vague elbow]

damn.

[cursive crater]

why do you still have certificate

[icy hollow]

Lmao

[wraith slate]

I grabbed it cus I want more cards in my deck and dna ain't showing up lol

[icy hollow]

3 runs in a row with a legendary

Skip for red card ⁉️

[humble gulch]

Okay, bro

[cursive crater]

obv hex the card sharp

[wraith slate]

gonna be chicot anyways

might as well skip the hassel

[icy hollow]

Yorick

[cursive crater]

wsg rick

[vague elbow]

best hit

wait you got glass joker canio might have been tasty too

[wraith slate]

wait, curious question, can you get 0x on stencil if you sell negative invis?

[compact niche]

does retrigger +sock and buskin cause the retrigger twice more?

[wraith slate]

and there's the dna I was looking for lol

[terse vale]

yes

[shell dagger]

how do you calculate that

[wraith slate]

uhh, stupid math, aka 1/54 for each card to be the card it needs to be

[shell dagger]

yeah what’s 1/54

because the first card can be anything

[wraith slate]

should be higher odds than that but you get the point

[shell dagger]

the second card needs to be the same suit within 3 ranks

etc

[versed sable]

Not to mention that if the first card you got was a king then you can't do a 2 or 3, etc

[icy hollow]

Rip

Didnt find any of the 3 last stickers

[wraith slate]

yeah, more like 1 * ~6/54 * ~3/54 * 1/54

but like you get the point

[humble gulch]

I love Obelisk

[pale wolf]

I didn't even mean to be on White stake is my problem

[cursive crater]

rip seed

[broken abyss]

hoooooooooly shit I just beat Orange Stake for the first time... in just FIVE TRIES.

[wraith slate]

perfect deck*

[broken abyss]

Ante 2 Yorick does that apparently 🔥

I even got it all recorded

I've finally unlocked the last deck

[pale wolf]

slick

[wraith slate]

when you realize you got this without handsize vouchers or antimatter lmao

[broken abyss]

First shop Buffoon pack had a Polychrome Eternal Drunkard which honestly put in a lot of work on giving Yorick his levels, and then eventually I found a brainstorm. That with an eternal Sock and a scary face is a lot of score 🔥

[ancient gyro]

start with madness. no other form of x mult can appear in the shop

[wraith slate]

just start with eternal madness instead?

[median needle]

I'm thinking of a balatro joker between #1 and #150, what one is it?

[brittle umbra]

Chat am I cooked ?

[pale wolf]

glass

[pale wolf]

prob not

[median needle]

No

[cursive crater]

crafty joker

[median needle]

Yes!

[cursive crater]

whaaat no way

[median needle]

Which joker is the most creative?

[pale wolf]

vagabond

[median needle]

No

[pale wolf]

stuntman

[median needle]

No

[pale wolf]

_ _

[median needle]

No

[pale wolf]

vagabond

[median needle]

It's really easy question

[minor valve]

DAMN YOU BLUEPRINT

I'm at big blind

[sharp lantern]

Thank you Showman

[lime remnant]

bp catching strays

[minor valve]

NEVERMIND

AT BOSS BLIND NOW

okay now it's dead

First time I had an unseeded baron mime run

[tranquil steppe]

Showman trolled the fuck out of you lmao

[brave fox]

Ante 11 killed my run, time for orange stake 🫠

[lime remnant]

has to be supernova right

[fringe nebula]

w

[fringe nebula]

nova

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[fringe nebula]

skipped because there's no point in acaling further btw

[pallid galleon]

holy imagine if it wasnt perishable...

[lime remnant]

care sharp is gone

[pale wolf]

i give up

[median needle]

It is crafty joker yeah

[humble gulch]

Crafty

[pale wolf]

oooooh

[humble gulch]

BRUH

[pale wolf]

I guess I could see that

[humble gulch]

Why am I so slow

[pallid galleon]

the timing

[steady mesa]

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 4

[serene forge]

dire

[pallid galleon]

di

[flat yew]

dude the ONLY time my glass doesn’t break is when I invest in a glass joker

I RETRIGGERED GLASS LIKE 4 TIMES AND IT LIVEDD

[weary whale]

Let’s say you’re looking for a specific joker and voucher to complete your collection. What would be the best deck to do so on?

[fringe nebula]

yellow

you can also do zodiac

[humble gulch]

Ghost if it's a rare

[ancient gyro]

yellow/ghost/zodiac/anaglyph

[humble gulch]

I mean

[fringe nebula]

you start with 2 vouchers on zodiac, so finding voucher would be easier

[pallid galleon]

i think we gotta go for it

[pale wolf]

balatrodle in three pog

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 3

[pallid galleon]

didnt find a bean in $1600

[pale wolf]

nice line 🦓

[pallid galleon]

lets see if we live

[pale wolf]

everybody goes ||constellation first i guess|| balatrodluler spoiler

[hybrid tendon]

lmao yeah

[pallid galleon]

gg it kept flip flopping on blueprint and baron

[lime remnant]

do i replace square for blackboard

[humble gulch]

Balatrodle in three :3

[pale wolf]

why on earth was that your first guess

[humble gulch]

Yes.

[lime remnant]

om

[humble gulch]

Canio, trust

[lime remnant]

i forgor to savescum

[knotty zodiac]

rekt by vv again

[pallid galleon]

thats a lot of point

hey hes back

[ancient gyro]

technical downside ensues

[brittle ocean]

Naneinf incoming? Edit: didn’t see it was gold stake

[fallow inlet]

What’s the highest money anyone has gotten in a run of vanilla balatro?

[ancient gyro]

3.8m

[pallid galleon]

and whats wrong with that

it could still naneinf

[brittle ocean]

Yeah true

Just more annoying to

[fading solar]

I have not won once 😭

[humble gulch]

I'd say naneinfing without discards would be a horrible experience

[brittle ocean]

Yeah

No rebate

[fading solar]

How do I winnnn 😭😭😭😭

[pallid galleon]

rebate is still like the strongest econ joker in gs

[brittle ocean]

Gs aside you can’t use discards with an eternal burglar

[pallid galleon]

burglar has its own econ line with much more potential than rebate

but the main issue is no purple seals

[brittle ocean]

That too

[brittle ocean]

Reserved parking?

[pallid galleon]

thats one of them

if you end up in a position like this you make like $800 a round or something

[fading solar]

I've realised my brain is mush

[brittle ocean]

In ante 3 damn

[pallid galleon]

yeah that was a busted seed

[brittle ocean]

I never really got a good golden ticket naneinf run

My successful runs usually have an early mime or baron and I score with red kings from early on and use rebate for Econ

Probably not optimal

[pallid galleon]

midas mask and golden ticket is usually my go to

[brittle ocean]

Oh yeah and Midas mask

[pallid galleon]

but usually rebate and a copy joker is all you need

i think the biggest misconception about naneinf runs is that getting an early baron or mime is a good thing

[brittle ocean]

How early do you mean by early

[pallid galleon]

i usually pick it up past ante 8 or 9

[brittle ocean]

I was talking like ante 8 when I already have a bunch of red kings

[pallid galleon]

tbh theres nothing wrong picking it up a few antes earlier than that but i've been exclusively going for crimson bean ante 8

so i never pick it up before that

[brittle ocean]

Oh yeah I’ve been trying to figure out the optimal setup for that

[pallid galleon]

2 copy jokers, burglar, stuntman, bean

[brittle ocean]

Do you manage to find all those usually?

[pallid galleon]

that or 3 copy jokers or another burglar

[pallid galleon]

nope

[brittle ocean]

lol

[pallid galleon]

its super hard to get everything

but if you do, thats +40 handsize

[brittle ocean]

Yeah that’s like a lock for ante 39

[pallid galleon]

but even like +10 handsize is great for the average run

the majority of attempts i dont get crimson heart or i dont find bean

but i usually get everything else

[brittle ocean]

Do you just reset or go for ante 16

[pallid galleon]

reset

[brittle ocean]

Ah

[pallid galleon]

but only cause i want to

[brittle ocean]

My last ante 39 run I got pretty lucky with a negative burglar just before ante 16

Econ was a bit cooked but I got +10 hand size ante 16 and +4 ante 24 and that was barely enough to scrape past ante 32

[fading solar]

I'm off to bed gng I'll probably put like 6 hrs into this game tomorrow 😭

[brittle ocean]

And mime+gold cards was enough to fund serpent rerolls

[fading solar]

1 sitting 😭

[wintry ice]

j

[brittle ocean]

I’ve probably had worse lol

[narrow scroll]

woahh free 11 dollars
maybe if you came when i didn't have two burnt jokers and was playing high card

[compact niche]

do I sell seltzer or summiit for cavendish?

[viral raft]

i mean, Mistic summit is there...

[pallid galleon]

sell tzer

[compact niche]

i meant summit

I freudian slipped lol

[viral raft]

imo summit because you're just choosing too many thingies to get mult

decide one

[pallid galleon]

what even is a mystic summit

[viral raft]

this one

[pallid galleon]

no like what is it

[viral raft]

why he needs mistic summit if he already have a Mult resource (scholar+seltzer)

[viral raft]

i don't remenber tbh lol 😭

[compact niche]

no better jokers came up yet

[pallid galleon]

seltzer is temporary tho

[void lintel]

+15 mult if you have no discards left

[compact niche]

wait no i replaced banana with summit earlier

[viral raft]

yeah but atleast he have good lucky card + scholar thingy

[fading solar]

Always choose banana

[viral raft]

while he can search for a retrigger like hanging chad

[median grove]

should i choose a blue seal or purple seal on ante 2?

if i want to go naneinf

[viral raft]

Mistic summit is just there i guess

[viral raft]

both but mostly purple

[brittle ocean]

Purple

[fading solar]

(a rule me and my friend have, even if you're stacked you sell something for banana)

[median grove]

why?

[viral raft]

with purple you can deck fix and with blue you get more power for later

overall purple because you need to gold card everything then steel card

[brittle ocean]

Plutos become redundant fast

[viral raft]

true but you still need a good amount to save some kings

like level 1 vs level 30 makes alot of differences per example

[icy hollow]

Not rly

[brittle ocean]

The first few levels are very important but like lvl 10 vs lvl 30 isn’t that much diff for example

[median grove]

okay tanks

[icy hollow]

Planets for naneinf is mostly just the chips scaling before u get the barin mime setup

[icy hollow]

Like mars usually

[median grove]

is this a decent naneinf start?

i got 2 immolates!

[pallid galleon]

to do list isnt very reliable so econ could be better

2 immolates is great

cool start

[median grove]

is reserved parking better?

should i get rid of one, or keep both?

[icy hollow]

Like i do take blue seals cus high level mars carries u for long asf on white stake plasma but its not rly there for the high card levels (tho like ofc still use the plutos if u can)

[icy hollow]

Keep both

[pallid galleon]

you have room for both

[proven bough]

Hey guys, I'm a total noob and I have no idea what the good combos are in the game. The only one I know is the pirate combo with the gift because a friend showed it to me. I'd like to learn more about them.

[brittle ocean]

Photograph + hanging chad is really good

[proven bough]

For example, can I cook something with these guys?

[brittle ocean]

And they’re both common

[median grove]

but dont i need more scoring jokers? i only have scary face and hanging chad

[median grove]

what should i sell here for blueprint?

[compact niche]

is ice cream gonna be better than mystic summit here?

[viral raft]

yeaah, fibb can be great in low straight and Sock & buskin is good in faces build with retriggers

[compact niche]

5oak +mult is at x21 rn

[viral raft]

you want some tips Seph?

[brittle ocean]

You could run two pairs with a bunch of A, 2, 3, 5, 8

[pallid galleon]

probably to do list if its on something sucky

[median grove]

and bp reserved parking?

[pallid galleon]

yeah

[viral raft]

yeah or a straight of A to 5 if he wants to play straight

[brittle ocean]

Fibonacci + sock and buskin don’t do much together

[pallid galleon]

remember to move it around when you need

[viral raft]

both useful to play

[proven bough]

Yes, please, I was almost selling the two-faced Joker.

[viral raft]

true

[pallid galleon]

rest in peace

aftermath

[median grove]

do you think its better to copy scary face, or hanging chad with blueprint?

on plasma deck

[brittle ocean]

At what point do you reset if you still haven’t gotten a red seal

[brittle ocean]

Prolly scary face

[pallid galleon]

scary face if you want score

[brittle ocean]

Unless you have other things you wanna retrigger, like a gold seal

[median grove]

okay thanks

[compact niche]

is the add foil/holo/polychrome effect to a card even chance for all 3? I s2g I only ever get foil

I mean at least it's better than holo but yeah

[median grove]

should i replace anything here for burnt joker?

for naneinf

this seed is crazy!

[brittle ocean]

What level is your high card rn

[median grove]

or is burnt joker not that good in this context

oh wait hc

lvl 4

[brittle ocean]

Or hmm I guess you could use burnt to level up 4oak if you have enough kings already

[median grove]

i dont, but wont i need to level up hc if i want to go naneinf

i feel like this is the easiest way

[molten thicket]

if you want

[brittle ocean]

I might be biased cause I think I switch to high card earlier than I’m supposed to lol

[molten thicket]

show deck

[brittle ocean]

I usually don’t level up 4oak or flush five

[molten thicket]

should be enouvh

sell midas

[brittle ocean]

Oh you could probably ditch the midas

[median grove]

well im not leveling 4oak, id be leveling hc

for baron mime down the line

[brittle ocean]

Yeah I think Burnt is better than Midas here

[median grove]

is a red seal 2 bad?

is it too low

for naneinf

[brittle ocean]

Too low to turn into a king

[narrow scroll]

is this a take

[brittle ocean]

A red steel 2 could possibly be useful for temporary scoring before you get baron mime

[brittle ocean]

I probably would

[median grove]

do i take this?

[terse vale]

yes

[median grove]

is it better than reserved parking

[terse vale]

I mean

rebate is

[median grove]

what?

[terse vale]

take that !

[median grove]

even with blueprint?

are you sure

[terse vale]

ya

[median grove]

no way

[terse vale]

:?

[median grove]

because people say for naneinf i need to make $200 a round

and i feel like i cant do that with rebate

[terse vale]

what

yes you can

[median grove]

how

[terse vale]

with good deckfixing

[median grove]

rebate is better than gold joker?

[terse vale]

you would get 10 dollars if you discard a king

hypothetically

[median grove]

but cant i make more with reserved parking, because i can play it for every hand

with hc

[terse vale]

mmm

I guess golden ticket

just copy it

[median grove]

what about reserved parking?

[brittle ocean]

If you can’t decide you can always replace burnt

Spam high card gold cards and get money from both

[median grove]

well i just want what would make the most money, and be better for naneinf

is burnt not necessary?

my hc is lvl 8

[terse vale]

golden ticket makes more money

[median grove]

should i sell burnt?

[terse vale]

sell parking !

[median grove]

and burnt?

[terse vale]

hc level 8 isn’t enough

[terse vale]

keep it !

[median grove]

okay but is golden ticket > rebate

here

all my face cards are gold

[brittle ocean]

Agreed

[terse vale]

yes

[brittle ocean]

You get 2 levels per round

[terse vale]

wel

actually yes

[fringe nebula]

the pairsloppest pairslop build

[median grove]

should i sell burnt for trading card?

if i want naneinf

[fringe nebula]

yes

[brittle ocean]

Yes

Btw do you have the crimson heart boss blind by any chance?

[naive frigate]

Mfs will just build decks

[errant hull]

It’s beautiful

[median grove]

is a 7 red seal too low for naneinf?

[ancient gyro]

nah

[humble gulch]

Yeah, that's a 10

[fringe nebula]

the collection grows....

[brittle ocean]

Wait you don’t have a high red seal yet?

[median grove]

any tips on progressing to naneinf from here?

ive never made it this far

no

im not really sure what to do

pivot to idol?

[fringe nebula]

I usually reroll until $10 per shop

[brittle ocean]

What’s your deck looking like

[median grove]

really?

[fringe nebula]

also take voucher ig

[ancient gyro]

half of the money you earned outside of important antes

[brittle ocean]

Idol won’t do much here

[median grove]

but what am i looking for?

[median grove]

what does this mean

[ancient gyro]

spend half as much as you make every round

[median grove]

oh okay

but what jokers am i looking for?

i feel like i cant replace anything

[fringe nebula]

sixth sense

for ectoplasm

[median grove]

except maybe scary face for photo

[fringe nebula]

baron

[median grove]

am i at the baron level yet

[fringe nebula]

yes you are

[median grove]

mime?

[fringe nebula]

but yeah, try to find ecto as soon as you can

[median grove]

what joker should i replace for either of these

and is plain mime worth taking now or nah

[ancient gyro]

sock idol ticket can be your money maker before you pivot to baron mine dna burger snake. depends how well you can gauge scoring and money

[brittle ocean]

Maybe replace golden ticket with mime

You can still get Econ with mime and gold cards

[median grove]

is this valid

[brittle ocean]

After you play your final hand but before it finishes scoring, move bp to the mime

[median grove]

but doesnt that earn way less money

[brittle ocean]

You need the other jokers to survive tho don’t you

[median grove]

i guess

[brittle ocean]

And trading card is important for deck thinning

[median grove]

but like should i be taking mime right now?

or is it too early

[fringe nebula]

oh wait

you only have 2 sixes

🥀

[median grove]

yeah

[brittle ocean]

Try to avoid destroying sixes when deck thinning

[median needle]

Oh my god it's local creamy

[median grove]

i didnt think sixth sense was that important

hello

[brittle ocean]

I wouldn’t specifically reroll to look for mime but if you see it offered it’s probably good to take

Not having any red seals yet might be a bit bad tho

[median needle]

Dr Joy

Jello!

[median grove]

i have a red seal 7

[noble mango]

hi there

[median needle]

Hi. Are you here for game discussion?

[noble mango]

uhh not sure honestly

[median needle]

Also, is #🕹・run-discussion a new channel? I feel like I haven't seen it before just now

[noble mango]

i was just here while waiting for my game's long wait time

[median grove]

am i dead here to the plant?

[noble mango]

it was added recently but not too new

[median needle]

Okay

[median grove]

noooooooo

[median needle]

#🕹・run-discussion

[noble mango]

it was made to talk about current balatro runs but most people still do it here lol

[median grove]

am i dead

[ancient gyro]

nobody talks in there

[median grove]

rip naneinf

[noble mango]

lol

[noble mango]

:true:

people just do it here lmao

like it barely changes anything

[median needle]

Rule 4

[hardy horizon]

aight i just found out no one talks in run discussion

[median grove]

am i dead to the plant with photochad? should i spend my rerolls looking for the disables boss blind

joker

[ancient gyro]

who

[median needle]

Take a look at your self and make a change by typing in #🕹・run-discussion

[ancient gyro]

we're not doing that

[noble mango]

why lol
looks like you are obsessed over #🕹・run-discussion
while we already got #🕹・game-discussion pretty much covering everything about it

[hardy horizon]

I havent seen many other people help with runs in the run discussion channel but ive seen people do it in here more

[noble mango]

it's made when the traffic was much well

crowded

[knotty zodiac]

i try to help in #run-discussion but switching back and forth on mobile is really annoying

[thorny nebula]

I'm in #🕹・run-discussion now bc there's a lot of people here. Trying to beat orange stake

[ancient gyro]

more active, more advice, better call-out for ppl that give bad advice

[noble mango]

lol

[ancient gyro]

pretty much

[median needle]

I actually love #🕹・run-discussion

I think I'll just have my game discussion in there though

[noble mango]

go ahead it's up to you

[knotty zodiac]

enjoy!

[brittle ocean]

This is about to be the earliest run I’ve switched to high card

[ancient gyro]

just know that I won't be helping anyone there

in case of misinformation this and that

[median needle]

Hmm it's really weird, nobody answered my question when I typed there.

[hardy horizon]

what was your question?

[noble mango]

it's like a dead channel that is only active when the traffic was so much

[ancient gyro]

i don't think about it

[frank grove]

I dont really have many opinions on it, its fine just like most of the page one jokers

[noble mango]

crazy?
i was crazy once
they put me in my lawn
a grass lawn
filled with zombies
zombies makes me craaaaazzzzyyyyy

[hardy horizon]

straights are cool but lowk it's not one of my favorite hands

[median needle]

I better not see any Crafty Joker hate here at least.

[ancient gyro]

it's trying to compete with 3 saturn levels

[frank grove]

yeah

[ancient gyro]

well it's better than crazy

[noble mango]

the common hand jokers are pretty much for earlygame purposes before transition to scalers or x mults

[ancient gyro]

ig

[knotty zodiac]

crazy joker is fine if you have no unconditional mult or are already committed to straights

[median needle]

No.

[humble gulch]

I don't know how to play Balatro out of nowhere 🥀

[noble mango]

it can also work for flat mults ig

[vale shale]

Helo gamers. 1 take gold stake run any deck. Which deck are we thinking bout.

[noble mango]

when paired with x mults

[ancient gyro]

the 4/15 curse

[noble mango]

the least taked deck

[ancient gyro]

black

[noble mango]

least talked deck

[humble gulch]

Erratic

[vale shale]

I need an answer unfortunately

[median needle]

Purple deck

[median grove]

hello is naneinf still possible?

with this run

[frank grove]

against plant with no glass already in deck i doubt it

[median needle]

No they patched naneif in 1.02

[ancient gyro]

im no nanlet

[vale shale]

Can I get atleast something that's isn't black or zodiac I wanna do other stufff 💔

Brack dek it is

[median grove]

i beat the plant!

with PHOTOCHAD

[ancient gyro]

you asked

what do you expect

it's a fun deck for me

[frank grove]

make money, as much as possible

[median grove]

what jokers do i look for?

[frank grove]

do a painted run why not

[median grove]

thanks

[noble mango]

nebula

[median needle]

.

[median grove]

and is a voucher skip worth it?

for naneinf?

[noble mango]

nebula lol

(it's worse i tell you)

[fringe nebula]

you should do a wheelspin

[frank grove]

yes but you want to cola farm for voucher skips usually, but im not super well versed in doing naneinf runs ive only done like 4 of them total

[median needle]

In balatro I only play royal flushes and refuse to play any other hand

[median grove]

any tips about what jokers i should look for?

[ancient gyro]

complain when I abuse free speech

[hardy horizon]

Still trying to figure out if dna is worth it at the moment

[median grove]

any tips to get naneinf?

[humble gulch]

What is this shop

[median grove]

this is the closest ive gotten

!

[frank grove]

more copy jokers

[median grove]

should i get rid of mime or is it still decent econ

[fringe nebula]

in balatro, flush five is recommended for winning gold stake

[ancient gyro]

i can tell you there's no clear indication that you'll naneinf

[humble gulch]

Just what I needed

[fringe nebula]

money

[knotty zodiac]

rebate in the judgment

[median grove]

for sure, even ahigh score would be cool

[knotty zodiac]

oh p good pull

[median grove]

are you talking to me?

[fringe nebula]

no

[median grove]

and is a voucher tag worth it?

[deft panther]

Game just refusing to give me any +Mult i will literally take Jimbo or dagger at this point literally give me any +Mult

[humble gulch]

WHAT IS THIS SHOP

[ancient gyro]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[fringe nebula]

voucher tag is very worth it

[ancient gyro]

general game plan

no thanks

[noble mango]

nah id win

[deft panther]

I swear to God the odds are just set to give you rental tag the majority of the time

[ancient gyro]

30%*

[deft panther]

Sure doesn't feel like it

[humble gulch]

So, I could find enough chips...

[ancient gyro]

gguh

what in the greed

[median grove]

so why did my naneinf fail?

did i need to switch to baron mime sooner

[frank grove]

greedmaxxing

[ancient gyro]

money

[median grove]

whoever told me to add a plain mime is a saboteur

[pallid galleon]

you died thats why

[frank grove]

yes and you have so little money

[median grove]

i had $400 and someone told me to swap GOLD JOKER FOR MIME

[median grove]

but what hand should i have played? how could i have scored more?

[frank grove]

i would've kept ticket and replaced trading with mime probably

[humble gulch]

Is it really greed?, I couldn't really take anything else

[thorny nebula]

ok genuine question. Can you guys teach me how to optimize my deck fixing philosophy? Idk what i'm doing

[median grove]

i was playing with a level 20 4oak

[pallid galleon]

ok who said that

[median grove]

i have no idea

it might have been you

[knotty zodiac]

show us your tarot card stats

[humble gulch]

This is a lot better

[thorny nebula]

oh i failed that run a while ago lmao

I just mean in general

made bad econ choices

[pallid galleon]

yeah ur banned from advice

[ancient gyro]

o

[fringe nebula]

you either deckfix towards big hand type, or just play cost-efficient builds like pair

[cursive prairie]

best start ever?

[ancient gyro]

no

[frank grove]

I dont think it was super greedy honestly i think i probably would've done the same thing 😭

[pallid galleon]

if you don't find any scoring jokers, you can still live by making glass cards or steel cards if you have mime

[cursive prairie]

tu mama

[humble gulch]

How do we tell him

[ancient gyro]

rule 2

[knotty zodiac]

hope you hit those specific flushes

[fringe nebula]

on checkered??? no

ancient joker still has a chance to choose diamond and club

[pallid galleon]

and you want to be in a position where you are already printing red seal kings at ante 8

[brittle ocean]

Isn’t mime $6/card in hand and golden ticket $8 per played card?

Or am I tripping

[cursive prairie]

nop it doesn't

[brittle ocean]

He didn’t have red seals

[frank grove]

what

[fringe nebula]

it does

[frank grove]

yes it does

[thorny nebula]

chat are we gambling with an eternal DNA (prolly not)

[pallid galleon]

mime only works after you play your finishing hand

[cursive prairie]

im in round 4 and it only choose hearts and the other black

[fringe nebula]

take droll

or open buffoon

[pallid galleon]

as opposed to being able to play golden ticket multiple times in a round

[thorny nebula]

doing this

[humble gulch]

Yeah, it does

[pallid galleon]

mime as your sole eco is very limited

[knotty zodiac]

ya varv is wrong it will def carry you to a8, dont mind him

[thorny nebula]

well its eternal reroll or eternal 10-4

game sucks

cant even sell em to get droll

[fringe nebula]

🐒

[cursive prairie]

o

[ancient gyro]

you'll figure it out champ

[pallid galleon]

especially because if you play 4oak or something you only get like 4-6 gold cards left in hand

[thorny nebula]

ig im hexing a walkie talkie

[fringe nebula]

congratulations

[ancient gyro]

glee

[knotty zodiac]

wtf varv was right? what a surprise

[cursive prairie]

mi bombo...

[hardy horizon]

Went on a detour with dna but how does this look?

[fringe nebula]

atleast you're actually learning something unlike some other people

[brittle ocean]

I was pretty sure the run was close to losing already and needed to get a bit lucky with finding baron mime

But yeah probably trading card for mime was better

[pallid galleon]

if you find a baron you'll live

[ancient gyro]

4oak was fine

[pallid galleon]

don't need mime necessarily

[brittle ocean]

There weren’t red seals

I think lone baron wouldn’t work

[wicked warren]

forgot to screenshot it but biggest cat i got 80.5x and lost due to no cryptids/death in shop for my glass

[pallid galleon]

true

[wicked warren]

also nat negative cat while i was also building towards an idol was nice

[echo sphinx]

most start ever

[wicked warren]

i was just going for stickers originally

[fringe nebula]

the fuck

[echo sphinx]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[thorny nebula]

I'm unironically building around 10s and 4s rn with a poly walkie talkie

someone shoot me

[fringe nebula]

that's fine

[knotty zodiac]

eternal reroll is not awesome but it's value

[thorny nebula]

we're here now ig

prob just buying burg and going

[pallid galleon]

i almost never use trading card in naneinf runs ngl

[knotty zodiac]

lolol the foil makes it all work

[pallid galleon]

usually -1 discard is too much value lost when you have rebate and purple seals

[humble gulch]

Fuck

[brittle ocean]

Sorry if this killed your run. I was thinking finding baron mine was about the only way to save the run from there cause chips alone won’t get past like ante 11/12

[ancient gyro]

sock idol ticket would've worked fine under ideal conditions

[brittle ocean]

Deadass?

[pallid galleon]

yuh

[brittle ocean]

I’m in a run rn with baron mime blueprint trading

Trading makes it so much better I think

If you get it early ig

[knotty zodiac]

i never play endless but trading deckfix should be goated there too?

[ancient gyro]

it's ideal

[median needle]

For the next five messages sent in this channel, the letter "J" is banned!

[humble gulch]

Well, I'm winning now

Bruh

[knotty zodiac]

oh you found another one

[ancient gyro]

skip for red jimbo

[humble gulch]

Bruh

[ancient gyro]

indirect conflict

[humble gulch]

Ughhhh