🕹・game-discussion

[pale wolf]

✊

[tardy spade]

Video?

[hoary moon]

✌️

[pale wolf]

heres a link

[hoary moon]

naneinf with incantation

[cyan timber]

bruh

[pale wolf]

thats just same thing with ouija

[cyan timber]

I'ma try and do naneinf instead of this bum ahh orange stake cuz that's 100 times easier

[pale wolf]

you'll be sorely disappointed and bored i feel

[cyan timber]

gang

chat do we take

[pale wolf]

for temperance value alone yes but not to scale

i mean i guess you could scale it but not with burnt

[humble gulch]

One

[pale wolf]

thank u

[humble gulch]

What...

[pale wolf]

my gratitude to you knows no bounds

[humble gulch]

What are you talking about

Thanks tho

:3

Hell yeah

[candid niche]

yeah, this is a run for sure

[pale wolf]

I have an endless outpouring of appreciation towards you and your shared gameplay upon this forum; for this you have my thanks

[humble gulch]

🐑

[carmine hollow]

Live with that

Say if it's wrong channel

[robust lance]

Boutta finish this all before the previews end

[candid niche]

we're getting negative calories with this one!

[carmine hollow]

Balatro trolled me

[stark charm]

Oh yeah you can ouija it to king, its first real use case

[patent crater]

Chat rate my flush build on black deck

[humble gulch]

Please pivot

[pale wolf]

you'd rather use incantation for that, the familiar one just counts on making enough kings+steels naturally

[stark charm]

Amazing synergy….

[patent crater]

I'm new to balatro, wahts pivot...?

[humble gulch]

Changing your build partially or fully

[pale wolf]

nice

[stark charm]

Change your mean of scoring , your build right now have horrible synergy

[patent crater]

🔥

[stark charm]

Yay

[pallid galleon]

do u play strinova

[patent crater]

No

[pale wolf]

abstract joker says jimbo in the center in red

[pallid galleon]

also ur name is spelled wrong

[stark charm]

(I do think you can win whitestake with that though it wouldn’t go in goldstake)

[patent crater]

Elaborate...?

[pale wolf]

abstract is fine in gold stake

[pallid galleon]

has anyone asked you that

[patent crater]

nope

[pale wolf]

fine for white stake probably, ideally with hack+walkie you'd go 4oak 4s

dropping four fingers cuz flush doesnt scale well

[pallid galleon]

thoughts on sharks

[harsh relic]

starting with an flush build but switching to high card in later rounds for example

[vocal rose]

pretty mid

scoring all over the place

[vocal rose]

what did he mean by this

[patent crater]

:(

[candid niche]

yeah alright

[harsh relic]

they were asking what is pivot

[stark charm]

First let look at your card joker -> smiley,walky talky require you to play face card and 4,10 ideally you would want to play same type of card because it won’t work together hack’s retrigger also not doing a whole lot here because walky simply SUCKS. now if you wanna play flush then you should upgrade flush planet because you get good mult from it making whatever that call +10 pretty obsolete later on. It is ante 3 you will easily survive right now.

[pallid galleon]

yap yap yap

[stark charm]

He asked

[pallid galleon]

heh

[patent crater]

Whats a good build for flushes?

[vocal rose]

basically you want to draw away from flushes and build into walkie hack as its not a bad synergy and is a decent source of mult but you need deck fixing

[vocal rose]

uh nothing

flushes are shit

[patent crater]

oh okk

[vocal rose]

unless you're using ancient joker

[stark charm]

Specific suit joker can help

But flush sucks

[pale wolf]

none
ancient joker, arrowhead, transitioning to flush 5

[patent crater]

which of these should i abuse then

[pale wolf]

pair is the default

[stark charm]

Pair obviously…

[vocal rose]

pairs

[patent crater]

uh okay?

[vocal rose]

is this a new run?

[patent crater]

yea on a diffrent deck

[vocal rose]

why do you have no hands played lmao

[minor portal]

straight flush

[humble gulch]

Pairs

[vocal rose]

play pairs/straights on blue stake and below

[stark charm]

Straight is good too but you will cry when you can’t find a straight because Lady Luck play you

[minor portal]

seance will be peak trust

[pale wolf]

you can play lots of pairs without worrying much about not drawing them, and they have plenty of synergy options with the best jokers in the game

[pallid galleon]

yall need to acknowledge that you confuse tf out of new players when you tell them to just play pairs without explanation

[vocal rose]

we answered their question

lmao

there wasnt a "which hand AND WHY"

it was just "which hand"

[pale wolf]

i try to elaborate when its not funnier to abstain from doing so

[vocal rose]

you're reading too deep into something that just isnt there

[stark charm]

Wait up

Let me find essay why pair is good

[pale wolf]

from: kanjikun (idk his discord rn)

[carmine hollow]

My fingers hurt to not type shi

[heavy heron]

[flushes]

[pallid galleon]

it doesn't require an essay to explain how to play pairs

[fading solar]

Question, is there a way to unlock everything in one run? I've seen people play seeds but I don't have the cards to do them properly 😭

[stark charm]

Playing Pairs is nearly the easiest hand to play, just look for two of the same cards and throw them out. And you will mainly be playing a lot of hands on a pairs build because having a scaling Joker is like the bread and butter of a pairs build. It almost feels like having a frontal lobotomy, since you’ll barely be discarding cause of how easy they are to draw. You mainly want to get lots of hands and opportunity to play lots of hands.

Fixing for them is primarily based off of what Jokers you have. If you have Blackboard, make everything Clubs and Spades. If it’s Ride The Bus, remove face cards. However there are some stuff that are pretty good to have not related to Jokers. Having gold cards for held in hand money and steels for extra score helps and it doesn’t hurt to have a few stone cards for extra chips. Primarily though, Blue seals and Purple seals are must haves. Purple seals can help you get more Chariots for steel and Death to then copy Blue seal so you have tons of copies and spam many Mercury cards to scale to the moon.

In terms of decks, it’s flexible enough to work on anything but for the most mileage, I would recommend Blue and Nebula. Blue Deck gives you one extra hand which makes scaling go even higher then the other decks. Nebula can help you scale levels on Pairs faster as you start off with Telescope and spamming Pairs is inevitable, however having 1 less consumable slot does hurt Blue Seals potential.

[heavy heron]

play what you want! but if you want to play suuuper optimally then yeaaa whatever pairs….

anyways flushes

wink

maybe straights too

[heavy heron]

AWESOME

you’re doing amazing

[fading solar]

This got lost immediately 😭😭

[heavy heron]

you’re well on track to win

[stark charm]

Just click unlock everything?

[humble gulch]

Two

[fading solar]

Hmm

[pale wolf]

yeah you can just go to your profile on the bottom left of main menu

[pallid galleon]

uhh click on the penguin's beak in the main menu

[pale wolf]

or make a new one if you don't want to ruin your achievements for that profile

[stark charm]

This is… madness

[fading solar]

Ah ok tyy

[reef shadow]

Oh my god finally

[stark charm]

Just looking at this…. hurt my soul

[reef shadow]

Where is midas when i need it

[pale wolf]

why did you drag the Jack of hearts to the left

[fading solar]

I'm on mobile, can I still do it?

[pale wolf]

why are you responding to the answer that mentions a penguin 🦓

[reef shadow]

I dont care this run was specifically to get the 5 gold card hand

for the joker

[fading solar]

Idk actually I looked for a penguin, I'm fairly new so I'm not sure

[stark charm]

I am crine

[pallid galleon]

penguin is a code word for profile cause they both start with p

[stark charm]

Was there always 3 button?

[ancient gyro]

trans rights

[grizzled pumice]

Hiya guys, what are the best deck skins you can get from the mod manager?

[reef shadow]

Thats the mobile version

[carmine hollow]

What

[stark charm]

3 button really doesn’t look right to me

[reef shadow]

what

[pallid galleon]

the penguin is missing too

[stark charm]

Idk maybe jack means trans? I heard ace mean asexual

[grizzled pumice]

Correct

[heady narwhal]

suit sorting

[reef shadow]

what

[humble gulch]

I might just sell him

[pale wolf]

so true

[ancient gyro]

who knew tailors play balatro

[stark charm]

Can’t you just create planet card?

[humble gulch]

No, thanks

[pale wolf]

duping planets for satellite value is the funniest concept

[stark charm]

Oh I see what you are doing, you want perkeo from soul every run.

[fading solar]

Ty, lemme do a run on red deck and white and I'll get back with how far I get

[knotty zodiac]

i think it's for hermit value cuz theyre broke

[stark charm]

You can just sell negative planet for 4$ dawg

[knotty zodiac]

$30 now vs $4/round

[pale wolf]

imagine seeing a temperance in the next shop though

[humble gulch]

Okay

[pale wolf]

lmfao

[floral latch]

what are eternal cards

[carmine hollow]

Every copy of balatro is personalised

[pale wolf]

they can't be sold or destroyed

[floral latch]

well yes

[heady narwhal]

they show up on black stake and above if that's what you're asking

[pale wolf]

they appear on black stake and up

[floral latch]

OHH

[humble gulch]

I'm dead

[floral latch]

yes thats what im askin

[knotty zodiac]

you have chip mult xmult. not enough?

[pale wolf]

Non-Retroactive scalers and consumable-type Jokers cannot be eternal i.e.~~ green joker ~~or luchador
Self-Consuming Jokers*

[humble gulch]

No...

[knotty zodiac]

gg. streak end?

[pale wolf]

You missed a pair draw?

[humble gulch]

Well, a streak of 2 it's not a streak

[humble gulch]

Two times

[stark charm]

Perishable?

[pale wolf]

oh so true

look at me conflating

[stark charm]

Wait you are telling me greenjonkler can’t be eternal???

[humble gulch]

I love rebate

[knotty zodiac]

can be eternal
cant be perishable

[stark charm]

I see

[pale wolf]

That is indeed what I was lying to you about by accident

[floral latch]

are all balatro players mathematicians and philosophers?

[pale wolf]

I'd say less than a percent of them are

🦓

[stark charm]

Nah we are unemployed gambling addict with no job

[knotty zodiac]

arithmetics nerds yes
mathematicians i dont think so

[humble gulch]

Oh

[pale wolf]

nice win

[floral latch]

"unemployed" "no job" chai tea

[slow iris]

trans rights

[stark charm]

Balatro literally feel like dopamine machine I gotta stop playing this game😭

[pale wolf]

trans rights and left hooks

[knotty zodiac]

play on the stationary bike at the gym. double dopamine

[reef shadow]

Hmmmmm

[cursive crater]

no you dont

[stark charm]

What is left hooks? Is it like hooked pawn?

[knotty zodiac]

boxing

[floral latch]

im the number 1 brainstorm fan

[cursive crater]

theres always a bigger brainstorm fan

[floral latch]

yeah right

[pale wolf]

found this online

[stark charm]

I played it on my big ass monitor I feel like those old hag at slot machine

[floral latch]

my name is ba latro balatres

[floral latch]

LMAO

[cursive crater]

did you pull this straight from the 1980 newspaper

😭

[stark charm]

I see

[knotty zodiac]

well except youre not dumping your life savings

and no one is offering you free drinks x)

[pale wolf]

it is still the best instructional aesthetic style

[sand nebula]

is burnt joker really good for high card and pair and stuff

it sounds like it

[stark charm]

I am still dumping my time which feel a bit bad

Moment later 2 hours passed

[cursive crater]

only good for those imo yeah

[fading solar]

I died 😭😭😭

[floral latch]

yep

[sand nebula]

ill do a pair build then ig

[knotty zodiac]

time to touch grass 🙂

[pale wolf]

ive done burnt joker straights before

[floral latch]

i love negative burnt

[cursive crater]

now thats new

[stark charm]

Ewww grass

[knotty zodiac]

burnt bean straights 🔥

[pale wolf]

the cool part is that you dont need to get burnt value every round

[sand nebula]

seems like it will probably be a while until pair is viable though

[pale wolf]

a saturn level is worth like 3 mercuries

[stark charm]

Or just… shortcut and get it every round…

[pale wolf]

yeah just go into your collection and buy it

[ancient gyro]

3 hc

[pale wolf]

this should be a tag btw

[knotty zodiac]

with burnt, pairs are online in like 3-4 rounds even if you dont find other chip source

[fading solar]

I am too new to this game to understand what you guys are saying sooo I'll be back in a year?

[sand nebula]

i got a jolly joker

better than nothing

[pale wolf]

check out balatro University on YouTube for beginner playlists

[knotty zodiac]

sly is a bit more helpful but jolly is solid too

[stark charm]

Have you considered using M synergy?

[sand nebula]

i do not know what that means

[cursive crater]

just make it a blueprint tag atp

[pallid galleon]

bye hope you find the penguin

[stark charm]

Cryptid M joker

[pale wolf]

It'd be like, yorick or chicot most of the time imo for a8gs

[sand nebula]

probably not unlocked

[cursive crater]

being able to buy legendaries would be so boring thougg

exclude em

[pale wolf]

I was thinking it would be legendary tag actually and have a similar rarity to the other rarest things

only 1 joker of your choice

[cursive crater]

anaglyph meta

[stark charm]

Goldstake player would still scream at you for skipping

[pale wolf]

no, there are times when skipping is good

[eager prawn]

I rerolled the plant and damn

[pale wolf]

people would call you names for not skipping with ancient Joker

[knotty zodiac]

skips can save runs

[wicked sequoia]

Now that's some lucky cards

[pale wolf]

y*um

yum*

[wicked sequoia]

ultimate dopamine hit

[sand nebula]

i fear i am in desperate need of multiplication or i will be outscaled by the next ante

[pale wolf]

are you living tho

jkjk

[wicked sequoia]

not sure but the number is going up

🙏

[stark charm]

Are you dead

[pale wolf]

ur fine with card sharp

[wicked sequoia]

Ah like that

yaya fine for now

[eager lance]

https://medal.tv/games/balatro/clips/mB4SZWNb7s-Tz-fS9?invite=cr-MSw4bHAsMjAxMDU1Mzc3
first time playing flush house was this run...

[wicked sequoia]

will die in a bit tho prolly

[eager lance]

someone see this 🙏

[pallid galleon]

yay

[stark charm]

I never actually use ancient jonkler do it Reroll suit when skip?

(It will get slammed by all [suit] card are debuffed anyways)

[pale wolf]

no

it doesn't repeat suits and it doesnt reroll if you skip a blind so you can guarantee never to play with ajs suit debuffed

[vocal rose]

dagger but it cuts to the right and left

[sand nebula]

great run ended by the water

what a stupid boss blind

[wicked sequoia]

yippee I winned

[pallid galleon]

do you guys think red or blue lipstick is hotter

[stark charm]

Can’t find big hand???? Poor you poor you, how about you try pair slop to make a run great again?

[vocal rose]

red is hotter

[sand nebula]

i was literally running a pair build

[vocal rose]

but black is hotter than both

[sand nebula]

but by the time i reached the water i could only get about 4000 chips per hand and i needed 22000 total

[stark charm]

Then it is not water fault….

[sand nebula]

do you want the seed or something

[stark charm]

Are you sure, for me blue deck>red deck>black deck

[sand nebula]

because im pretty sure i made all the best decisions i could

[vocal rose]

I think doing black deck ++ made me accustomed to it

[humble gulch]

I love 3oak

[vocal rose]

or maybe im just a masochist for it

[ancient gyro]

maybe the former

[vocal rose]

yes

[stark charm]

I have been doing implementation hell problem for a last few days…. You can’t beat me

[humble gulch]

Erratic++ made me hate erratic even more

[vocal rose]

I can

[stark charm]

These everydeck++ player really need to touch grass idk

[eager lance]

whats everydeck++

[ancient gyro]

id rather not talk about my hobbies more than i need to

[vocal rose]

doing c++ on one deck specifically

[stark charm]

C++ on every deck

[vocal rose]

I do nebula++ to decompress touching grass

if I dont touch grass I dont make money

[humble gulch]

I hate people and the outside has people, no thanks

[vocal rose]

oh yeah @ancient gyro I got

[ancient gyro]

i compensate my time wasting by playing a game every 2 weeks

[vocal rose]

13/15

on gsg

[ancient gyro]

lul

[vocal rose]

I died on red deck

of all things

[eager lance]

ok

[weary depot]

FINALLY

after a billion years

[eager lance]

what

[weary depot]

screw black deck

[ancient gyro]

you started on yellow deck?

[eager lance]

is e18 good after 4 days of playing

[vocal rose]

do I have to do them in an order

I started on painted deck

[ancient gyro]

oh I just assumed ppl did rotating

in rotation*

[vocal rose]

I literally just did a random number generator

to pick my next deck

[humble gulch]

I guess, having a high score doesn't mean a lot tho

Ugh

[stark charm]

Rental challenge deck , all jokers are rental

[vocal rose]

not really

[stark charm]

Welcome to a horrible idea by jump

[vocal rose]

whats your highest stake after 4 days of playing

[vocal rose]

planet maybe

[humble gulch]

STOP GIVING ME RARES

[vocal rose]

picking up seeing double as a last resort

[humble gulch]

I took double

[errant hull]

Anyone know how to get better?

The highest I’ve gotten is 12 million

[eager lance]

blue stake

[vocal rose]

thats pretty good

[vocal rose]

score doesn't matter

[eager lance]

i wasnt just griding higher stakes tho

[vocal rose]

and isn't an indicator of being better

[eager lance]

i was just playing everything

[stark charm]

Unlock everything and dive straight to gold!

[vocal rose]

you should grind higher stakes

[eager lance]

what deck

[vocal rose]

yellow

[eager lance]

why

what about plasma

[vocal rose]

plasma is one of the hardest decks for higher stakes

[humble gulch]

Might be worse than black

[vocal rose]

and is oversaturated because of how many people are nanlets

[vocal rose]

nah

black deck is the worst by

2 or 3 times

[eager lance]

how

[eager lance]

whats nanlets

[void topaz]

you cant realllly just chip spam

[vocal rose]

well when you get to that point you'll understand 🙂

I dont want to spoil your fun

[stark charm]

Higher score requirements usually require you to pivot

[humble gulch]

800,000 finisher blind, 1.2 millions violet vessel

[vocal rose]

2.4m violet vessel

[void topaz]

pivoting from chips to mult is just like not a thing

[humble gulch]

Sorry...

[eager lance]

yeah but score gets balanced

[humble gulch]

Got mixed up

[humble gulch]

Not enough

[vocal rose]

not enough

you dont get enough chips to beat 2x blind requirements purple stake+

[humble gulch]

I'm saved

[vocal rose]

unless you have one very specific jokers

[stark charm]

I won the first plasma deck goldstake with 6 ante mrbones

[void topaz]

how is this saving you?

[magic mural]

cruel

[eager lance]

i feel like everytime i beat ante 8 my score is a few digits above score requirement

[void topaz]

take dice trust

[magic mural]

i did

[humble gulch]

I needed that xmult

[vocal rose]

sure

when you're on the lower stakes

[void topaz]

a

[vocal rose]

yes

[stark charm]

Because you are on low stake?

[eager lance]

not on plasma deck btw

[vocal rose]

thats pretty easy to do

[brave fox]

Im working through black deck rn, it is definitely not the most fun deck lml

[humble gulch]

Now I'm completely saved

[vocal rose]

on the lower stakes it isn't difficult to score above the required chips because it is 100-200k

[void topaz]

its time to have 4 ancient joker runs

[void topaz]

W gold seal

[stark charm]

I won my first game with black deck C:

[vocal rose]

and you have FULL access to all of your jokers without any consequence

[humble gulch]

Hi there

[vocal rose]

just have fun though

[brave fox]

It was all fun and games till I got too purple lol

[vocal rose]

it DOES get way harder

[stark charm]

Balatro was more fun when you dont know anything and you find cool looking jonkler

[brave fox]

Gimme them wild cards

[eager lance]

true

what does debuffed after 5 rounds on a joker mean

[void topaz]

dont even need em ancient jokers just that goated

[vocal rose]

it means that joker will no longer function after 5 rounds

[stark charm]

Debuffed after 5 round?

[eager lance]

so it does nothing?

[stark charm]

Yep

[vocal rose]

yes it is disabled after 5 rounds

[eager lance]

ok

[humble gulch]

A lucky cat would be great right now

[eager lance]

how much harder is purple stake compared to blue stake

[vocal rose]

the worst sticker out of the 3 that can appear on your jokers

[void topaz]

like usual

[vocal rose]

roughly the same

[void topaz]

is this just like a normal gold stake run why are you like talking us through it lol

[vocal rose]

cant really compare since blue stake is just bad game design

and purple stake is a decent difficulty spike that makes sense

[ancient gyro]

i cant be the only one that did gsg rotating 🥀

[eager lance]

huh

[vocal rose]

green stake turns out to be harder than purple stake

[drowsy rain]

Average c++ run 😭🥀

[stark charm]

Sure...

[vocal rose]

the difficulty is roughly the same

[pale wolf]

what deck should i play

[ancient gyro]

black

painted

[pale wolf]

wow

[vocal rose]

nebula

[eager lance]

what are u talking about lol

[stark charm]

Erratic

[pale wolf]

i expected painted from you yea

[humble gulch]

Correct

[eager lance]

i mean i thought it would be atleast a bit harder cuz faster scaling

[vocal rose]

I cannot be anymore clear with what im saying

[void topaz]

i just got an erratic run with 22 face cards in base deck

[eager lance]

no i mean that doesnt make sense at all

[void topaz]

and then i ended up playing 7's

[ancient gyro]

cohesiveness issue

[vocal rose]

it does

[stark charm]

Plant is COMING

[eager lance]

why ragebaiting

[vocal rose]

it means that green stake itself is harder than purple stake itself

[void topaz]

i played 7's cause i found a red seal polychrome in a pack lol

[vocal rose]

word

alright im no longer interacting with you

[stark charm]

Orange stake💔

[vocal rose]

really bad

[void topaz]

like green stake goes up by more than purple does?

[eager lance]

u mean how much the scale is multiplied?

[eager lance]

?

[stark charm]

Google it there is spread sheet

[eager lance]

ik

[void topaz]

dawg wdym ik

[humble gulch]

I know this is what a white staker would say but I need that photo

[eager lance]

ive seen the table

[humble gulch]

Well, that's useful

[void topaz]

then whats the question you should know

[eager lance]

???

[stark charm]

What would white staket say?

[drowsy rain]

Saying it like it’s derogatory 😭

[stark charm]

Oh yeah I can't read

[void topaz]

this

[humble gulch]

I mean

[stark charm]

Just get a glass card idk

[vocal rose]

like a few weeks ago we looked at the numbers and green stake makes a bigger difference across the entire 8 antes

[eager lance]

im asking so ik what he's trying to say

[void topaz]

yeah

ok thats fair

[eager prawn]

This is the only way I can try to work with ancient joker

[ancient gyro]

i lost the number sources

[eager lance]

lol ok

[vocal rose]

im trying to find it too

[void topaz]

wait what am i looking at

theres like 5 things to look at

[stark charm]

Flushy?

[eager prawn]

It's white stake chill

[drowsy rain]

Ante 3 showman

[ancient gyro]

im slowly hallucinating 7% score increases in some antes the longer I go not finding it

[void topaz]

no but like which of the things on your screen are you talking about

[stark charm]

Holy I just saw that

[vocal rose]

this just means in a vaccum green stake is technically harder @void topaz

spelling is my strong suit

[stark charm]

It is spade actually

[void topaz]

yeah like ignoring the add on every stake below thing

[vocal rose]

clubs

[void topaz]

bro clubs was right there

so close

[stark charm]

What did the club even do gang

[ancient gyro]

in terms of raw numbers in % green stake is the harder of the 2 scoring stakes if you were to remove either green stake or purple stake for blind scaling increases

[void topaz]

i think we got it

[vocal rose]

nah

[void topaz]

dalright

[drowsy rain]

Green stake is harder if you remove green stake

[humble gulch]

WHERE'S THAT PHOTO 💔

[void topaz]

purple stake is harder if you removed purple stake and easier if you removed green stake

[stark charm]

???

[vocal rose]

im sadder if you remove balatro

[drowsy rain]

How can one beat green stake if there is no green stake?

[void topaz]

what if balatro was removed and with the extra time you became the best person of all time

[eager prawn]

Should I use Ankh?

[magic mural]

perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[stark charm]

If your power is goldstake what are you without it???

[void topaz]

your not gonna believe this

the deck starts balanced

[humble gulch]

I love you

[fringe nebula]

I hate you

[magic mural]

i'm on erratic deck

[eager prawn]

Ante 7 T.T

[stark charm]

Can someone find me the seed of an erratic deck that is... Normal deck?

[void topaz]

guh

[magic mural]

i have level 41 flush

:3

[stark charm]

(Probably game glitch)

[eager prawn]

Ask Roffle

[pallid galleon]

i wonder if its even possible to find it

[humble gulch]

Saves me

[stark charm]

Don't scream at me now

[humble gulch]

Gg

[drowsy rain]

ratic deck

[void topaz]

has someone not checked all the seeds

[eager prawn]

Win

[stark charm]

Idk if you look into game code you might be able to find glitched seed for that

It is essentially impossible to bruteforce the seed

[pallid galleon]

it will have to be a glitched seed, pretty sure the probability of the a seed being generated like that is much much lower than the amount of seeds that exist (2.3 trillion)

[humble gulch]

Two

[magic mural]

ok i lose

game over

level 50 flush

[eager prawn]

Try again

[pale wolf]

all the right numbers of each rank, and the correct number of each suit, and the correct distribution of suits to ranks

[pallid galleon]

actually i can easily calculate the probability i think

[void topaz]

wait can i post links

[waxen quartz]

standard deck erratic is infinitesimal chance. the only worthwhile way to find would be calculate what input it would take to produce it

[eager lance]

whats the best deck to unlock golden ticket

[void topaz]

i just found a cool balatro related website

[stark charm]

I think there is a limit on card erraticality for duplicates so the chance might be higher than you think, whether probability of such natural seed exist is likely or not doesn't matter because we can't find it anyways.

[magic mural]

if balatro's rng is faulty, so as to cause the entire deck to have 1 card in certain seeds, it seems possible that a normal deck seed is impossible somehow

i can't say for sure

[waxen quartz]

midas mask

[pale wolf]

there is no limit

[magic mural]

i dont know if its guaranteed that there is such a seed, there probably is

[pale wolf]

what is it

[void topaz]

https://blog.danlew.net/2025/11/03/balatros-least-erratic-decks/

he checked alot of them apparantly

[waxen quartz]

there's 34 of those, was deemed not worth fixing. other deck maxes are 23 of a rank (24 for some, 22 for others) and about 38 of a suit (outside the 10S bug)

[magic mural]

oh ok

[eager lance]

what deck tho

[eager prawn]

I've only seen this bug seed
https://youtu.be/_QNQmw4aPYA?si=yt9Ua-AMjk2ZHRNP

[pale wolf]

aah yes ive seen this page before

good source

[waxen quartz]

midas mask is win on any deck but abandoned. $ rules in balatro

[void topaz]

midas mask + golden ticket + vampire 🤤

[eager lance]

yeah but whats the best deck

to unlock golden ticket

[void topaz]

erratic i guess?

[ancient gyro]

so ive heard

[void topaz]

maybe painted

[eager lance]

good idea

[pallid galleon]

i believe this is the probability of erratic deck generating the normal deck

so its lower than the amount of seeds there are

[stark charm]

It doesn't exist....

Sadge

[eager prawn]

Perhaps

[stark charm]

Give me unerratic deck

[stark charm]

They did a complete search there is no way they missed it

(somehow)

[pale wolf]

he wasn't looking for the most default deck though

[eager lance]

wait they did?

who

[pale wolf]

imo misleading page title but its really more of the most erratic deck rolls

[void topaz]

its still just so unlikely it exists

[stark charm]

If the card is generated completely randomly

There are 52! Way to generate normal deck and 52^52 way...

[eager prawn]

Ehhh

[stark charm]

Wait up

[waxen quartz]

nothing in balatro is completely random. otherwise seeds wouldn't produce the same result

like the link said, it's some custom pseudorng over love's implementation of same

[stark charm]

By completely random I mean there is equal chance the current card will be any card

[pale wolf]

sounds right

[stark charm]

Once you learn more you know almost nothing is random in our world

(Except splitmix 64 my fav random)

[eager prawn]

Chaos theory

[pale wolf]

any advice

[frank grove]

Is that shortcut?

[pallid galleon]

i hate nebula deck

[stark charm]

Stop playing that deck

[pale wolf]

its red deck im just in space

[pale wolf]

its blue joker

[stark charm]

Have you tried playing fullhosue

[frank grove]

Wow blue joker looks like goat art when you put it into a few blurred pixels 🔥

[pale wolf]

||its definitely shortcut||

[stark charm]

X5 poker game so there is a flush house and flush five?

[bronze widget]

i am so cooked

[eager prawn]

Wut

[reef shadow]

Be uncooked

[pallid galleon]

yo tasooki did you see the bean bug run i did a while ago

[icy hollow]

Lowk crazy stm run

Ante 5 with 19 queens

[bronze widget]

i think u mentioned it u got +30 handsize ante 8?

or was it something else

havent been on in a whileee though

[pallid galleon]

yeah it was like +40

[dense osprey]

This hurt me

[icy hollow]

Damn.

[polar light]

huh?

[pale wolf]

i added a new emote to my server

[broken abyss]

How is my Ancient Joker hitting non-Hearts?? My deck has been fixed to All Hearts for multiple rounds now.

[stark charm]

Use 5 deck

[eager prawn]

Which server?

[stark charm]

Brilliant…

[pale wolf]

chotophad

[ancient gyro]

the one no longer in his bio

[pale wolf]

lol

[polar light]

that doesn't work for ancient

[broken abyss]

Ohhhhh Ancient is always random suit?

RIP

[pale wolf]

its the only one like that

[ancient gyro]

balanced for gs reasons

and that

[broken abyss]

gs?

oh gold stake

[pale wolf]

I'm still not sure if it would be better or worse

[broken abyss]

gotcha

[pale wolf]

it would basically be idol

when it misses at the end of your deck fixing you just die

[ancient gyro]

being completely randomized with no repeats leaves room for no hard counters

[broken abyss]

well on that note I also just hit the strength on the queen so now i'm perfect-fixed for Idol 🙂
BTW this is the Endless of my FIRST time beating Purple Stake so that feels good too 😄

[vague elbow]

suits are just really easy to fix for, bloodstone is 1/2 for that same reason even though its a specific suit

[pallid galleon]

"blueprint shows up in shop" oh thats nice
*rerolls*
YO

[stark charm]

Rip Econ

Oh wait

Is that a fucking rebate

[broken abyss]

BTW yes that is a Nat Neg golden Ticket 👀

[eager prawn]

Chip based🔥

[vague elbow]

you can also feasibly fix for two separate suits and get guaranteed flushes in either of them. and theres a deck that does that for you. if ancient worked like castle it would be really, really good

[pale wolf]

if ancient Joker was deck fixable then it would just be xmult Castle

[tranquil steppe]

That’s one heck of a start

[vague elbow]

xmult onplay castle yeah

[terse vale]

would prolly be safer to not fix cuz there could be an idol situation

[tranquil steppe]

Ancient joker is deck fixable if you wildcard your whole deck

[ancient gyro]

the other 90% of the reason is blackboard

[vague elbow]

that's true but it also leaves you open to like 6 boss blinds

[polar light]

the suit boss appears

[eager prawn]

Good luck with debuff

[tranquil steppe]

Yep

[vague elbow]

i dont think blackboard is really a reason for this the amount of xmult you get from ancient absolutely demolishes a single x3

[ancient gyro]

uh

not with my experience lol

[vague elbow]

with retriggers

[ancient gyro]

aj doesn't need retriggers

is the thing

[vague elbow]

thats true

[tranquil steppe]

Ancient is a free win

[vague elbow]

you just need jupiters

[eager prawn]

I feel dumb for that

[vague elbow]

or like other planets

[ancient gyro]

ancient has crippling performance against card draw tampering boss blinds

[pale wolf]

they didnt say bloodstone is half the reason, they said its 1 out of 2 for that reason

[ancient gyro]

blackboard has

a perishable probability

[tranquil steppe]

Smeared ancient is nice!

[vague elbow]

that is what i said

[ancient gyro]

just like aj lol

[vague elbow]

you can just fix for blackboard

[ancient gyro]

fixing for blackboard is optional

[vague elbow]

fixing for blackboard is not that hard theres three tarots that work and two of them fix three cards at once

[errant hull]

Quick question

What’s everyone’s favorite build

Like hands to win

[ancient gyro]

stm

[vague elbow]

it's optional but very easy

[tranquil steppe]

Probably more if you count spades, clubs, wildcard and hanged man

[ancient gyro]

with no risk

death

[vague elbow]

ah right i forgot hanged man and death

[eager prawn]

Driver license is still the best one tho (imo)

[tranquil steppe]

I love drivers license

[vague elbow]

i dont like drivers license, not that its bad

[ancient gyro]

nah

it has a minimum age requirement

[vague elbow]

its just like annoying

[pale wolf]

4 counting hangman

[icy hollow]

Lol

Madness and campfire balling

[tranquil steppe]

5 zebra

[vague elbow]

yeah its five, moon world hanged-man and death

[icy hollow]

Lover

[pale wolf]

lovers

[pale wolf]

so 6 hmm

[vague elbow]

you know i did say 5

no i said 5 and then listed 4 tarots lol

lovers is one of the five

[pale wolf]

no theres another one

[polar light]

straight (flushes) or flush five/house

[vague elbow]

which one?

[ancient gyro]

am I the fool

[eager prawn]

Everyone is fool

[polar light]

but it only does a single card

[pale wolf]

its justice ofc

justice is just a quarter of a hangman

[tranquil steppe]

But it still helps with deck fixing for blackboard

[eager prawn]

Yeah I'm sure it can change the whole deck with single card next update

[icy hollow]

Hermit which gives u a reroll into a world

[errant hull]

Peak

[vague elbow]

ok yeah other cards can help you get more tarots lol im talking direct changes

its just really easy to fix for

[pale wolf]

also judgement can make stuntman which helps blackboard

[vague elbow]

theres spectrals that help with blackboard too but yall are not gonna like to hear this

ectoplasm and ouija

[icy hollow]

🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[tranquil steppe]

And immolate

[pale wolf]

no it's a valid use case for smaller hand size

[vague elbow]

immolate helps with most things

[sly marsh]

4 stickers in one run: clever and mad jokers, satellite, and the order. 207 total stickers left!

[polar light]

ouija?

you mean sigil

[pale wolf]

no

[vague elbow]

no i mean ouija

sigil is a 1/2 so its like ok

[eager prawn]

I think 0 hand size shouldn't exist

[pale wolf]

minus handsize

[polar light]

you just die

[vague elbow]

what

[eager prawn]

Yeah

[sly marsh]

Lol I just took sigil just because, because it was better than nothing and then later ran with blackboard

[vague elbow]

its blackboard your cards dont matter

blackboard is a high card joker for me. sometimes pairs

[eager prawn]

I only HC

[ancient gyro]

sigil in practice depends on what suits you draw initially

[vague elbow]

ahhhh yeah yes

[ancient gyro]

it's practically pairs

[vague elbow]

if its all red cards ill pop a sigil fs

[ancient gyro]

you didn't see that other message

[waxen fable]

why go hc with bb brah

a hc build is slow

[vague elbow]

you arent guaranteed to get a pair for blackboard

[ancient gyro]

assuming stuntman I suppose

[vague elbow]

im not assuming stuntman no

[waxen fable]

dontlook at me like dat

[versed sable]

4 mil!

[cosmic sun]

That's not Shane that's Shamoo

[ancient gyro]

pairs with bb isnt that much harder to fetch

[vague elbow]

but yeah blackboard is def a both build. you can play pairs and hc together i tend to do that

[waxen fable]

yes

[vague elbow]

you arent really getting blue seal value unforch

[polar light]

?

[waxen fable]

yes

[vague elbow]

at the stage of the run you pick up blackboard though you should have decent scoring

[pale wolf]

sometimes I'm forced to play pairs with blackboard

[polar light]

wdym by slow

[vague elbow]

it scales slowly

[eager prawn]

Obviously

[polar light]

oh yeah

[waxen fable]

it scales way slower than pairs

[ancient gyro]

and is incompatible with 2 xmult jokers

[waxen fable]

anyways who doesn't like free 3x mult guys

[ancient gyro]

technically 3

[cloud sinew]

which 3

[ancient gyro]

pot/c2/duo

[eager prawn]

Black deck HC pain

[ancient gyro]

should've said 1, technically 3

oh well

[cloud sinew]

see2 technically works with smeared black suit or a wild card

[pale wolf]

not wild iirc

[vague elbow]

well the context we're using rn is that you're using blackboard lmao

the entire convo rn is in the context of a blackboard build

[ancient gyro]

we can change topics

blackboard - hc/pair compatibility - hc joker incompatibilities

idk bb kinda boring to talk about

[pale wolf]

also why no blue seal value

[eager prawn]

Have anyone ever main HC on checkered?

[pale wolf]

yes

[vague elbow]

well ok we were assuming lower hand size but nah you can get blue seal value from blackboard

[tranquil steppe]

It’s so beautiful

[cloud sinew]

blue seal value from blackboard is very easu

[eager prawn]

Holo I see

[cloud sinew]

you should put blue seal on black suits if you can, and if you cant then you should make it your priority to convert it to a black suit

[odd crow]

Do I even take it 😭

[vague elbow]

ya same with gold cards

[pale wolf]

yeah I feel like low hand size doesn't really affect how many cards you get to draw besides the initial three or whatever, with blackboard at least

[vague elbow]

relevant build

[cloud sinew]

I think the ideal handsize for blackboard could be 5 or 6

[pallid galleon]

personally i think its 6 or 7

[ancient gyro]

depends on how many cards u wanna hold in hand

[tranquil steppe]

Sixxxxxxxxxxxx seeeeeeeeeeeevin

[vague elbow]

one card take it or leave it

[cloud sinew]

I have to take it ;(

[pale wolf]

id win

ok time to start the new profile

[eager prawn]

We have been in a loop

[pale wolf]

yes

its finally time, 6:07

[cloud sinew]

chat is it ethical for me to sell blueprint

[tranquil steppe]

East coast I see

[pale wolf]

ywa

[vague elbow]

always

[pale wolf]

destroy the system through corporate espionage

[cloud sinew]

ty

[vague elbow]

gotta show it who's boss

[ancient gyro]

I've sold a lot of controversial things

[pale wolf]

He's talking about weapons

[ancient gyro]

ik

[errant hull]

What is this bru

[pallid galleon]

i'd say no but i'd buy her from you

[cloud sinew]

Ive sold every single joker at least once

[tranquil steppe]

You do what you gotta do to survive

[cloud sinew]

2nd hand goods! The 2nd R is forgotten about so much

[polar light]

I just got 1998 on the ante 2 boss blind gs 🙁

[pallid galleon]

eat chip and lie

[cloud sinew]

hot chip

[pallid galleon]

charge they phone

[pale wolf]

duh

[tranquil steppe]

One chip challenge?

[vague elbow]

ive never sold a throwback because i do not buy throwback. if i buy throwback i would not sell it because it would kill me

[eager prawn]

Why did they name it throwback?

[cloud sinew]

i have gotten most jokers at least once from judgement

[icy hollow]

Never sold bloodstone (cus ive never bought it 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🙏 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 )

[cloud sinew]

It used to make sense

[pallid galleon]

for some reason that photo gives fart fetish energy

[vague elbow]

its a throwback to the 80s

[eager prawn]

Get out

[icy hollow]

If bloodstone from judgement im restarting the run

Its a sign

[errant hull]

So I’m not the only one ?

[cloud sinew]

the old effect was that the cards in hand at the end of the round would be the cards you drew at the start of the next one

[eager prawn]

I see

[polar light]

have you sold a seance/showman/superposition on an ante 8 run

[icy hollow]

Superposition often

[pale wolf]

the effect and art have nothing to do with its name anymore yea

[vague elbow]

yes

[icy hollow]

Superposition isnt thaaaat bad

[vague elbow]

its cause it throws your run back to ante 1 by killing you

[polar light]

it is really bad

[pale wolf]

its because i trowed up

[tranquil oyster]

superposition does not belong there
although tbf, doesn't everyone sell them all the time? both jokers in the pack are bad, but one is a rental. you get more money back.

[cloud sinew]

superpos is not a joker i take often as an eternal, nor is it one i keep for a while if i can avoid it

[vague elbow]

superposition is tarot gen we do not speak ill of tarot gen

[cosmic sun]

Superposition mogs those two cards

[icy hollow]

Its rly not

[eager prawn]

I only love vaga

[polar light]

ace straights are annoying to play with bc there are only 2

[ancient gyro]

despite it being the worst of its niche

[pale wolf]

superposition needs to be deleted from the game for the good of the community it is DESTROYING this games reputation

[icy hollow]

Its not smth to take for long but like if i get it, ill try to get a few tarots out of it before selling

[ancient gyro]

but yeah

[cloud sinew]

hallucination my beloved

[waxen fable]

its just mid and for the same rarity u can get smth like hallucination instead

yep

[wintry ice]

as a painted deck player superposition is pretty decent

[polar light]

or tarotmancer/hallu

[pallid galleon]

superposition is bait that can get you killed

[ancient gyro]

or 8 ball if you can't help it

[pale wolf]

bait ball

[cloud sinew]

8ball the goat

[polar light]

for like 2 antes

[waxen fable]

8 ball is for the lunatics

[cosmic sun]

If you die greeding for superposition that might be on you

[vague elbow]

superposition is only bait if youre bad at the game

[ancient gyro]

i prefer hallulu over carto

[pallid galleon]

carto kinda cringe

[wintry ice]

halu has a better activation time

[vague elbow]

there are no bad tarot gen jokers

[ancient gyro]

superpos is a pair joker one might say

[cosmic sun]

Statements are being made in chat

[cloud sinew]

eternal superpos is usually bait

[polar light]

nah, ace straights are never the straights you actually fix for

[waxen fable]

yes

[pale wolf]

hallucinatiation is my 2nd faveite tarrot generatior

[eager prawn]

Vaga mog them all

[waxen fable]

its no 1

[tranquil oyster]

superposition is bad but it's not worthless. you might as well greed for a hermit if you got nothing better to do.

[pale wolf]

vagglebond

[wintry ice]

i mean if you're playing ace straights i don't think you care about what hand you play

[ancient gyro]

superpos I rather it be in one condition and not in any

[waxen fable]

o my i forgot

[vague elbow]

youre not fixing for superposition its just earlygame tarot gen

[waxen fable]

i love vagabuh sooomuch

[cloud sinew]

valabomb my beloved

[cosmic sun]

No but you can still get high straights early

[ancient gyro]

other tarot gen I can afford some catches

[pallid galleon]

8 ball is the best tarot joker

[eager prawn]

Nahh

[pallid galleon]

its my favorite

[wintry ice]

hallucination is a joker that i feel is always takeable

[vague elbow]

8 ball is good i like it even though it hates me

[tranquil oyster]

8 ball does nothing unless you deckfix and why tf would you deckfix for 8 ball

[icy hollow]

Rental hallucination 🤤

[ancient gyro]

no risk

[cosmic sun]

Chat's fixation on deck fixing is killing me

Just play an 8

[eager prawn]

What if I don't have any 8 in my deck

[ancient gyro]

self enabling

[wintry ice]

this is like saying "there's no reason to deckfix for 9s so cloud 9 is bad"

[tranquil oyster]

[icy hollow]

The strengh of deckfixing is having a fixed deck, rarely ever is it the specific rank

[waxen fable]

son

son

[wintry ice]

you literally named the reason why you deckfix towards the rank in the sentence

[cosmic sun]

shon...

[ancient gyro]

"why should I play vagabond when I'm at 50 dollars"

[cloud sinew]

8ball is for occasional throwaway hands when youre safely winning for the chance at tarots

[cosmic sun]

Oh yeah if I make an 8 it's probably gonna be turned into a 9 later if possible

[pale wolf]

if you think about it hard enough, vagabond instantly gives you 25+ dollars

[ancient gyro]

8s have an easy transition yeah

[tranquil oyster]

yeah it's like a bottom tier way of using hands. barely better than +1 dollar, but just barely. mogged by pretty much any other "hands for advantage" joker.

[tranquil steppe]

Sometimes I too enjoy clogging up one joker slot for a 1/4 chance to maybe get a decent tarot

[wintry ice]

i'd say strengthening 7s into 8s is better than making speculative jacks if you already have 8 ball

[pale wolf]

normally you hold that money for interest but suddenly you can spend it

[vague elbow]

tarot gen isnt game winning its a little extra value it doesn't need to happen every hand to be good

[cosmic sun]

"I squander simple opportunities"

[waxen fable]

it has the ability to give like 70 bucks

[wintry ice]

being outclassed doesn't automatically make something worthless

this is a roguelike

[vague elbow]

sometimes its the only way to use hands lmao

[wintry ice]

you can't act like good options are always available

[vague elbow]

you cant play balatro like you have every joker at once

[tranquil oyster]

kinda, yeah. balatro has like three actually worthless jokers. it's just pretty bad.

[pale wolf]

tarot gen is 100% game winning

[cloud sinew]

id say 2

[ancient gyro]

what's the harm into having 8 ball

[wintry ice]

it's ok at worst

[tranquil steppe]

What are the worthless jokers

[cloud sinew]

Showman and Idol

[wintry ice]

it's pretty much passive value if your run is hand agnostic

[waxen fable]

idol and showblud

[wintry ice]

which it usually is

[tranquil steppe]

Agree

[waxen fable]

idol is only fully functional on 11th ante minimum

[eager prawn]

Not the showman

[pallid galleon]

8 ball is next to nothing on its own but a hanging chad makes it goated

[cloud sinew]

I dont mean truly worthless, but relative to the rest of the roster theyre like a 0.1% usecase

[waxen fable]

like ive watched and played every idol run

[ancient gyro]

showbiz and Hatsune ripoff

[polar light]

unless you have vagabond

[waxen fable]

i said fully functional

[vague elbow]

is idol not just worse photograph most of the time

[waxen fable]

with vagabuh or not

[wintry ice]

it is

[woven hare]

yes ankh would probably make me eat shite in the long run but but but but

it could be funny...

[vague elbow]

baseball card value 👀

[waxen fable]

99% of the time

1% is the average endless slop

[eager prawn]

"Hatsune tipoff"

[wintry ice]

hey if your hologram is at 8x it could be worth it!

[cosmic sun]

no

[woven hare]

9x

[waxen fable]

bro just grim

[tranquil oyster]

showman (actively makes the game harder)
marble (stone cards are bad and clog up your deck)
seance (extremely high effort, random spectrals are probably not even good)
idol (endless joker)

[woven hare]

lmao

yeah i did it

[vague elbow]

marble and seance sneak

[wintry ice]

marble has a niche with hologram and can be a backup chip source for pair and high card runs

[eager prawn]

Marble?

[cosmic sun]

get marble out of there big dawg

[wintry ice]

seance can sometimes get value if you have a suit changer

[vague elbow]

seance is 8 ball final boss

[wintry ice]

marble is like

[eager prawn]

Bro have never played plasma

[woven hare]

why do i only have 2 nines

[tranquil steppe]

8x3x3x3 > 8x8

[wintry ice]

barely in the bottom 10

[waxen fable]

marble isnt that bad

[wintry ice]

i think

[waxen fable]

stones are decent

[woven hare]

-# noshi

[polar light]

marble is decent chips for pairs/hc

[pale wolf]

seance is essentially for fun activities ante 8

[wintry ice]

idk the worst jokers other than the bottom 5 are pretty forgettable

[woven hare]

stones are fun

[ancient gyro]

marble scales three uncommon jokers, 2 of them being very good

[eager prawn]

Joker is the worst

[wintry ice]

joker is an earlygame support option

[vague elbow]

im not gonna say throwback is worthless but id take literally anything over throwback most of the time because i hate it

[pale wolf]

tower is decent, random stones arent that good unless you have the aforementioned uncommons

[eager prawn]

And is the best no one can deny

[waxen fable]

i dont like bringing up joker synergies but it's very good with holo stonejoker and license

[wintry ice]

that automatically makes it better than all of the endless jokers

[woven hare]

el webo

[pale wolf]

3 uncommons if you count vamp stone and hologram

[woven hare]

stone joker is never worth it

[waxen fable]

good on its own for some chip source

[woven hare]

does not scale

at all

[ancient gyro]

missed vamp