🕹・game-discussion

[glad aspen]

Can someone back me in saying blue stake is the hardest part of gold stake?

[pliant ginkgo]

I'll give it a try. Yellow seems plain though. After the initial starter money

[polar light]

or ghost or abandoned

[humble gulch]

It's the second worst

[serene forge]

it's either blue or purple

[ebon condor]

its not, its issue is limiting your options, not functionally making things harder

[median grove]

what is the next joker to go?

[glad aspen]

Ill take that

[median grove]

im trying to get naneinf for the very first time

[cosmic sun]

Yeah I would say blue is definitely a factor but not make or break

[polar light]

You are also acting like you are 100% right on every point and I am 100% wrong

[serene forge]

blue forces pairslop and purple puts the scores high and having them together is disgusting

[polar light]

like you are the premier source of info

[cosmic sun]

Lowkey rentals can be a boon sometimes

[bronze widget]

rentals=vagabond value

[cosmic sun]

The same thing can be said for new players who are so sure of their own opinion

[grizzled pond]

Daily Game trying to get all Golden stakes :P i got Lucky today sad was a Green stake

[cosmic sun]

Or just misinformed people.

[serene forge]

rentals only suck if you're in ante 1 or if you fucked up your econ otherwise (you're probably already dead if that's the case)

[glad aspen]

Vagabond value = mult

[polar light]

Campfire

[bronze widget]

mult=score

[plush sail]

Who should i buy?

[polar light]

chaos

[ebon condor]

look i think the issue with this argument is a difference of perspective

[polar light]

diet cola

[glad aspen]

Score = win

[bronze widget]

photo

[cosmic sun]

If you go to the Balatro sub there are insane amounts of players with C++ who think they know the game in and out but rate Obelisk like shit

[plush sail]

Oki

[polar light]

this

[median grove]

can i get rid of runner here?

im trying to go naneinf

[ebon condor]

it seems most of yall are arguing from a winrate perspective, which is perfectly valid, and from that viewpoint, erratic isnt great

[median grove]

what jokers should i look out for / get rid of first?

[bronze widget]

thats a really food start just try tos cale like pairs or smth and u shld win easily

[bronze widget]

naninf you only need like 4 hanging chad and 1 photo

[humble gulch]

Because you're trying to justify inconsistency with potential when both aren't good, I am correcting you about erratic and anaglyph both not being good but you always respond with "No, that's not true" and justifying that with it being subjective when if it where we wouldn't be arguing in the first place

[glad aspen]

Chips are your best friend rn keep runner

[ebon condor]

however, if you dont really care about winning every run, and are content with resetting, erratic is perfectly fine, as you can force the start you need

which is also perfectly valid

i dont see why this argument needs to only be from one viewpoint

[bronze widget]

tbh naninf needs a lot of luck early game you should have as tart witih good econemy like golden ticket and chad and you should find an early red seal/deck fixing tbh so its not really easy to force a naninf in that run

you probably need a better start to be abel to naninf

econ is the #1 thing needed to naninf then its vouchers

[median grove]

okay thanks, until i get mars leveled up and then photochad outscales chips?

[median grove]

you think im too late because its already ante 5?

[polar light]

the potential is quite common, depending on how you play it. I just respond with why I think that the potential is high. I am just annoyed with how you act.

[median grove]

but i feel like ROFFLE has really bad luck early game and still gets naneinf

a lot

[glad aspen]

Something like that, naninf takes a lot of time, dedication, skill, and a bit of luck

[polar light]

are you roffle

[median grove]

whats the best way to get red seals?

and are red seals good because they retrigger when played, or retrigger in hand?

and are red seals for gold cards to generate econ?

or is rebate + bluprint better

[cosmic sun]

Both but people often overlook the latter

[median grove]

i mean for naneinf

[bronze widget]

sixth sense/seance/certificate or jsut luck in a card pack

[cosmic sun]

For naneinf people just put red seals on king...oh god talking about endless is putting me to sleep again

[bronze widget]

ig yeah but usaully hy ante 8 he has atleast a few good econ jokers

baron mime isnt a "good start"

[median grove]

no i know

[bronze widget]

golden ticket can be a better start sometimes

[bronze widget]

kind of but you can always try to go as late as possible as training

where is the scoring 🥀

[polar light]

what do you think is the most fun build

[grizzled pond]

Lol

[polar light]

I think it’s straights

[bronze widget]

lucky cat

[versed sable]

they do both
in hand is the more relevant thing for naneinf

[polar light]

with shortcut and burnt

[versed sable]

that's something they do yes

[glad aspen]

Flushhh 🤤🤤🤤 or 5oak

[median grove]

red seals on kings for baron mime? or to generate econ with gold effect

[bronze widget]

how many copies do you need to naninf with idol?

[polar light]

5oak is so fun

[glad aspen]

Naninf

[cosmic sun]

People do golds first until the scoring can't keep up

[red briar]

which deck is the easiest to naneinf on

[median grove]

and then they switch to steel?

[bronze widget]

what you do is you put it on kings then you can use it for both, early game for golden ticket retrigger OR parking OR mime gold econ

[red briar]

i would assume ghost deck with an early perkeo start

[woven spire]

plasma imo

[cosmic sun]

Yes

[grizzled pond]

My friend do this funny run

[bronze widget]

what

[glad aspen]

Yeah

[woven spire]

perkeo nan is harder than perkeoless imo

[bronze widget]

this start is so 🤤

[red briar]

for real?

i would assume the easiest strategy is baron mime slop on ghost deck with perkeo

get a cryptid from shop and copy a bunch of steel red seal kings to win

[glad aspen]

Well yeah cause it requires not only the luck for a legendary joker, but for said legendary to be perkeo

[red briar]

brainstorm...

[polar light]

69 with sock

[bronze widget]

unseeded perkeo is just way too unrealible and perkeo isnt a great joker to sustain

[woven spire]

in a seeded run yeah, but unseeded is HARD

[red briar]

i always wanted to naneinf...

[glad aspen]

How is brainstorm helping you get perkeo

😭

[red briar]

Mod

brainstorm Mod.

[polar light]

103 without

[woven spire]

Perkeoless u just need to get burglar in ante 24+ and the vouchers needed

[median grove]

should i make a red seal lucky? or is that kind of useless

and its a red seal queen

which is not ideal but still pretty good

[bronze widget]

😿

[median grove]

im trying to go naneinf

[woven spire]

i did nan using brainstorm for a bp, nothing wrong with that

[red briar]

yeah

i feel like at my skill level just getting an early bp isn't enough =w=

[grizzled pond]

Ank with Sock or Chad🔥

[red briar]

how do you even obtain blueprint from brainstorm, just the first shop?

[woven spire]

trial and error, trust me

[polar light]

invisible red card value for skip

[woven spire]

yeah

[oak axle]

Peak run? Should I try and natinf

[red briar]

i'll give it a try on plasma deck

[median grove]

do you think its worth it to make a red seal lucky? for naneinf

[bronze widget]

yeah i did sock id have loved to keep both though

[median grove]

or is that kind of useless

[woven spire]

useless

[median grove]

even on ante 2?

it seems better than nothing

but not great obviously

[woven spire]

then not useless

[median grove]

maybe ill get a few $20

[median grove]

and eventually switch to gold right?

[woven spire]

yep

[hoary moon]

white steak?

[grizzled pond]

Well at least can apear again but... Now showman for 3 Sock

[hoary moon]

alr yea definetly go for endless

[polar light]

ante?

[oak axle]

Yeah I finished the game tho I'm just trying to nat inf

[median grove]

okay thnaks

[hoary moon]

alr baron mime burgler

[median grove]

how do i play around reserved parking with red seals? do i play multiple hc and then my 4oak on the last hand?

ive never really played reserved parking

[grizzled pond]

I have some great runs in Gold stakes this week

[woven spire]

Yeah that

[oak axle]

I got another run with perkeo and nat negative bp and nat negative king but I couldn't get any cryptid with seance (ante 15 ) I gave up lol

[hoary moon]

what

[hoary moon]

how do you even fumble that

[hoary moon]

isnt sixth sense better

[night bridge]

Keep track of your score so you know if you need more than 1 hand to win, and yeah spam high cards to farm money

[oak axle]

Seance appears on ante 5

[median grove]

okay thanks

[grizzled pond]

And also great power of Chicot

[median grove]

is invisible worth buying here?

[hoary moon]

oh and u combined it with blueprint

[median grove]

for naneinf

[oak axle]

Idk it's just it won't give me a cryptid

[hoary moon]

was it seeded?

[median grove]

i feel like whatever it copies is pretty good

[oak axle]

Not lol

[grizzled pond]

Invisible is nice

[hoary moon]

you have a free slot

[oak axle]

I forgotten the said but it's a natural run

[median grove]

in the naneinf context?

[oak axle]

Baron mime

[formal oriole]

oh no, dont take the 3rd best copy joker in the game

[grizzled pond]

In most context

[hoary moon]

maybe you should be keeping interest

[formal oriole]

espeically in plasma thats sooo baddd

[terse vale]

well

[night bridge]

You can hold onto it untill you find a bp or bs and see if it hits

[hoary moon]

it will pop up later

[oak axle]

I always starts my run with a interest tag lol

[formal oriole]

but if its popped up now

why not TAKE IT NOW

[oak axle]

Wait I forgot what's it's called

[oak axle]

So what are u gonna copy

[formal oriole]

gotta find a bluepinrt for it to copy

[terse vale]

for interest

[grizzled pond]

Yeah

[hoary moon]

yh thats what he should do 100% but im thinking of reasons why hes doubting it

[formal oriole]

yk u can hold onto a invis right

[hoary moon]

duping blueprint early game is HUGE

massive

[terse vale]

prolly better just to build money

[hoary moon]

gargantuan

[oak axle]

I know I'm just being sarcastic lol

[hoary moon]

not having to bother about double barons/mimes is so great

[formal oriole]

srchodingers ragebait

[terse vale]

and take an actual scoring joker

cus its ante 3

[formal oriole]

they dont care about that, they care about a massive score. so u gotta take risks

[hoary moon]

i mean interest is good

[terse vale]

atp just reset for ante 1 baron mime

I’m being sarcastic what

[hoary moon]

starting with baron is bad actually

[grizzled pond]

Fr

[terse vale]

yea cus its shit

[oak axle]

Nah you start with Jimbo at ante 1 for good luck

[formal oriole]

yap

[grizzled pond]

4 kings in deck oh hell nah

Low mult base and no mult jokers

[hoary moon]

in naninf runs early game u need to hyperfocus econ and deckfixing

[polar light]

start with seance on ghost

[terse vale]

idk how creme is surviving but I havent played plasma in a while so idk the score progression

[oak axle]

I used ghost with mine bar on highest was 24

[polar light]

i wonder if there is a naneinf winstreak

[hoary moon]

seance is ass

sixth sense is the way to go

[polar light]

it’s a joke

I replied to jimbo being good

and I said ghost deck

[oak axle]

That one joker that makes everything gold and one that makes you earn 4$ when it scores + Sock and bus = $$

[polar light]

and pareidolia

[hoary moon]

kinda unrealistic

[oak axle]

Huh?

[serene forge]

I hate Pareidolia

[icy hollow]

150 on ante 3 lol

[terse vale]

too specific

[oak axle]

I already had a run like that multiple times it's so godly

[serene forge]

sock and ride the bus is my favorite synergy

[terse vale]

just mime stuff realy

[hoary moon]

does nothing 90% of the time gets countered by boss blind the other 10%

[oak axle]

You need the money to reroll for mine and baron

[hoary moon]

parking the bus

[icy hollow]

😭 😭 😭 damn im on a gold stake run with it rn

[polar light]

Pareidolia and ride the bus is better

[serene forge]

but yeah since youre playing white stake you just abuse a chip joker or something to get your scoring then you focus everything else on econ/deckfixing

and late game your econ farm is either rebate or ticket

[median grove]

is taking a red seal 9 good if i want naneinf?

or is it too low

[serene forge]

yes

you need to take any red seal you can get

[median grove]

yes its too low or yes its good

okay

[hoary moon]

rebate is so good you can even use it early game

[serene forge]

it doesn't matter what rank it is you will be able to turn it into a king eventually

[oak axle]

Oh hai remember me

[median grove]

because i can still use it for red seal gold in themean time?

[serene forge]

yeah rebate is always good of course

i'm just saying late game it's how you're able to make hundreds of dollars per round

[oak axle]

I haven't played the game in 4 months I forgot the jokers

[serene forge]

yes, but also the fact that you don't know if you're ever going to get another red seal

[hoary moon]

you aint using red seals till ante 12

[oak axle]

I use the uh ticket and I forgot that other joke that makes face card gold of smth they give u a lot

[median grove]

do you think this is a decent setup to try or too weak?

[serene forge]

a little yea

[median grove]

im scoring well and i have a red seal

[serene forge]

that's fine

[median grove]

but no econ except for seed money

[hoary moon]

do nothing

[median grove]

is it worth taking purple seals too or is that deck bloat

[serene forge]

do you have a purple seal yet

[hoary moon]

stack that interest while buying arcanas

[serene forge]

take it

you need purple seals

[median grove]

really?

[hoary moon]

super worth it

[terse vale]

ya

[serene forge]

and when you get deaths you dupe your purple seals first

[terse vale]

deckfixing

[serene forge]

it will accelerate your deckfixing so much

[hoary moon]

tarots are your main deck fix

[oak axle]

Sometimes I get it too early on a pack or never get it at all ( or I already copied s lot of steel kings)

[hoary moon]

red seal timing makes or breaks a run

i usually keep the amount of kings low

[median grove]

okay thanks

[oak axle]

Nah I usually print kings the moment I get to DNA

[median grove]

is also missed the consumable slot voucher... is that kind of integral

but i do have a red seal gold 9

which is good

[serene forge]

using dna too early is usually a mistake

[hoary moon]

super good late game tho

[serene forge]

when you use it before the trash cards are removed you are making it harder to remove those

[serene forge]

yeah obviously

[serene forge]

vouchers need to be your top priority

[hoary moon]

helps scoring, setting up rebate and balancing the amount of kings in your deck

[serene forge]

there are a few that should be avoided but otherwise you must take any voucher you see

[hoary moon]

grab any voucher except illusion/planet merchant/tarot merchant

[median grove]

damn

should i keep playing this out?

i missed 2 vouchers

[serene forge]

retcon and antimatter are non negotiable and if you don't have them you will just lose

[hoary moon]

those are the only vouchers that have a negative effect

[serene forge]

that's why using colas for double tags is so important

[median grove]

i dont even know if i have those unlocked

[serene forge]

to have more chances at getting the vouchers you need

[serene forge]

bruh

[median grove]

for the voucher tag?

[hoary moon]

open a new profile for endless

unlock all

[median grove]

wait what are they? are they the + new joker slot?

i have one but not the other

[serene forge]

retcon is infinite boss rerolls

antimatter is joker slot

[hoary moon]

antimatter is +1 joker slot

the +1 consumable's upgrade is nice

bc u can get more spectrals

[oak axle]

@serene forge is it bad that I decided to print so many glass +10mult kings lol

might as well restart my run I guess

[hoary moon]

glass cards break so uh

keep them if they help scoring

[serene forge]

planet merchant is always bad, tarot tycoon is always bad, magic trick is bad if it's too early
apart from these you always have to pick up the vouchers

because even if they're not useful you're getting them out of the pool

[oak axle]

They are my scoring (e27 on ante 9)

[tulip oak]

whats the best money generating joker

[hoary moon]

they shoudl provide scoring till u get baron

[south path]

is there any reason to get magic trick unless your running hologram lol

[median grove]

oh i think i have both? but i havent "discovered" anti matter yet

[south path]

ive gotten magic trick twice in my lifetime

both with hologram

[median grove]

do you think its still worth playing this run out if i missed two vouchers?

[tulip oak]

hell nah

[hoary moon]

magic trick late game has some uses

[serene forge]

magic trick doesn't bloat the shop as much as planet merchant and illusion doesn't bloat it further so in endless you should take magic trick just to get it out of the pool

[hoary moon]

it can work as a shitty DNA with death cards

[serene forge]

and magic trick also adds a method of adding cards to the deck

which you can turn into kings

yeah

[oak axle]

I got the boss where Spade is X only then I rerolled no face cards

I'm cooked lol

[willow igloo]

I'd say rocket from what i've played so far

[tardy dust]

should I take DNA here? I know my deck is a mess, I grabbed an early DNA and I completely messed it up

[serene forge]

rebate

[south path]

yeah i dont think ive ever bought planet merchant or tarot merch ever

[hoary moon]

ante 5 and chip generators

[serene forge]

tarot merchant is good sometimes

[hoary moon]

you should be fun right?

[serene forge]

faster deckfixing

[oak axle]

?

[tulip oak]

what does it do

[tardy dust]

I usually grab tarot merchant but not the tier 2

[serene forge]

no

[south path]

ive bought the second upgrade of tarot once on zodiac

[hoary moon]

i learned that its good for gold stake

[south path]

i was deck building

[tulip oak]

oh mail guy

[serene forge]

yeah tarot tycoon is awful

[hoary moon]

tarot tycoon just kills you

[oak axle]

Fool+ Temperance

[hoary moon]

yep

[south path]

i only bought tarot tycoon since i just needed glass kings

or queens

[willow igloo]

Rebate is also good. I had both that and rocket once. Money wasn't an issue that run lol

[tardy dust]

why?

[simple talon]

First ever naneinf, its unseeded but I’ve never gotten one seeded either. This run just so suddenly fell into my hands. An ante 1 photochad and perkeo into an ante 3 mime

[south path]

otherwise its not good

[oak axle]

Rebate is good econ

[tardy dust]

it just floods your shop with tarots you don't need

[south path]

rebate is so overpowered omg

literally what other econ jokers compare to rebate

[hoary moon]

it gives you money that you cant spend on jokers lol

[hoary moon]

maybe midas mask

[south path]

does midas count as econ

joker

[serene forge]

no midas is a scoring joker

obviously

[south path]

yes

[tardy dust]

I had an almost perfect run and I messed it up by buying tarot tycoon, so, I'm not making the same mistake again

[south path]

i love the +3 mult it gi ves to cards

right

[oak axle]

I died @hoary moon had no score since plant killed my kings lol

[hoary moon]

its effects still work even after you sold so its kinda different

[south path]

ive had one midas vamp run

its super fun

[hoary moon]

you had foil two pair joker

[oak axle]

Ante 16-

[hoary moon]

guh

[tardy dust]

can someone tell me why I shouldnt grab DNA here? I'm currently trying to get rid of all my unnecessary kings

[hoary moon]

u sent screenshot of ante 5

[oak axle]

Lol I forgot to ss

SORRY

[median grove]

any help here? im not sure if i should go for chad, or reserved parking

for naneinf

[oak axle]

Chad definitely

[hoary moon]

absolutely take DNA

rn its a better troubador lol

and helps deck fixing

[median grove]

so should i sell blue and not take reserved parking?

[tardy dust]

do you think my deck is salvable

[south path]

am i playing perkeo wrong

ive gotten it 4 times

[oak axle]

Show ss

[south path]

and lost before ante 6 all 4 times

i always lost all my econ and failed to deckbuild right

[tardy dust]

You need good tarots or spectrals for perkeo to do anything

[hoary moon]

you got 3 red seals

so start duping

[tardy dust]

alright, also, should i take another ecto? I've already done 1

[south path]

should blue seal be nerfed

its pretty overpowered

[hoary moon]

uhhh no

bc youre gonna sell dna eventually to get more scoring

so rn you dont need an extra joker slo

DNA is a life saver here

[tardy dust]

makes sense

[oak axle]

Hmmmm reserve parking is decent econ don't sell blue if it's your main scoring joker

[hoary moon]

open every arcana/spectral and take hanging man and death from shop

deckfix while DNA is going

[median grove]

runner is my main scoring joker

[shell dagger]

what are your planet levels

[hoary moon]

xmult is useless here

focus only on chips

[median grove]

really?

[median grove]

not good, only straights are level 4 but i want to pivot to 4oak

[shell dagger]

it can be good cos they already have 6x

[hoary moon]

i dont see any +mult so runner does the heavy lifting

[median grove]

im not sure if i try and get chad? or take reserved parking? or sell runner?

for naneinf

[shell dagger]

for naneinf I’d sell cav

[hoary moon]

so if hes playing straights 24 mult

[shell dagger]

no

[hoary moon]

sell riff raff for now

[hoary moon]

4x6?

[median grove]

what? but i want to get hanging chad

[shell dagger]

oh yeah

[shell dagger]

lvl 4 straight isnt 4 base mult

[hoary moon]

but u want that reserved parking

[median grove]

i think ill sell cavendish, and blue joker, and take reserved parking? and try to get chad

[hoary moon]

ohhh levels

16x6

[tardy dust]

@hoary moon do I take a showman? if so what do I trade it for

[hoary moon]

send screenshot

of deck and jokers

[median grove]

so do you think this is good? or is it bad to have 4 jokers with riff raff

[shell dagger]

you don’t really want riffraff rn

deckfixing jokers are more important

[hoary moon]

wait u got 7/8 joker slots???

[tardy dust]

huh

weird

[hoary moon]

try buying showman rq

without selling anything

[median grove]

but dont i want to farm for chad?

and what deckfixing jokers?

[tardy dust]

i forgot I had antimatter

[shell dagger]

it’s not a high priority

[tardy dust]

ngl

[hoary moon]

trading card or tarot generators

[shell dagger]

any of them are better than an empty slot rn

[hoary moon]

even with antimatter it shouldnt be 7/8

[tardy dust]

it let me buy showman

[hoary moon]

so 7 non negatives

[tardy dust]

?

[hoary moon]

that should be impossible

[tardy dust]

yeah I noticed

[warm wedge]

oh dear

[hoary moon]

maybe smth wrong with your mods

[tardy dust]

maybe saturn?

[median grove]

is certificate necessary here?

[shell dagger]

no

[hoary moon]

not really

if ur going endless u have every seal you need

[icy hollow]

+2 stickers but damn

I rly messed up this profile

Last 5 stickers gonna be so hard

2 rares (vagabond and wee) and 3 uncommons (bloodstone, 4f, loyalty card)

[tardy dust]

I'm on ante 15, should I keep DNAing gold red seals or do i switch to steel red seals?

[icy hollow]

Not leaving commons to the end was so badly playrd lmao

It is what it is

[hoary moon]

VAGABOND??

WEE?

[icy hollow]

Same reason i just did certificate sticker this run lmao

Good joker i try to save if i dont need it that run

Then in the end i save for too long 🥀

Bad planning

[foggy elk]

Fried😭

[icy hollow]

It is what it is

[hoary moon]

cerftificate is S tier but you dont usually finish runs with it

[icy hollow]

Still eternal cert is prolly still worth most runs

[hoary moon]

you got all the food jokers before vagabond 🥀

[icy hollow]

Ofc

Food jokers were prio number 1 lmao

They were the first jokers i stickered

[hoary moon]

dont get bloodstone

do 149/150

[hoary moon]

and call it c++

[foggy elk]

Oh no

[icy hollow]

I actually alrdy got bloodstone

[foggy elk]

😭

[icy hollow]

But the run didnt save

For some reason

So it lost its sticker

Lol

[hoary moon]

good

[icy hollow]

Its a sign

🗣️ 🔥

[hoary moon]

do 149/150 without bloodstone

[median grove]

why do people say reserved parking is good econ?

i feel like its really bad

you get maybe 3 or 4 bucks every hand?

[hoary moon]

it triggers every hand

[median grove]

how is that good

[hoary moon]

EVERY hand

[icy hollow]

Thats ridiculiusly good (and more than it gives lol)

[hoary moon]

so do the math

[hoary moon]

isnt wee one of the best chip jokers

[icy hollow]

Ngl i swear i only saw it twice 😭

But also like i said

[hoary moon]

eh tbf its rare

[icy hollow]

I skip good jokers for as long as i can

I just did my first supernova run like 3 runs ago

Lol

[hoary moon]

delayed gratification

[icy hollow]

Red card i did my first run after 50% were alrdy stickered

[tardy dust]

do I take another baron or do I wait for a blueprint/brainstorm?

[hoary moon]

red card is ass tho

[icy hollow]

💀

Its alrdy my most used joker

[hoary moon]

son

[hoary moon]

wait for the bp

[tardy dust]

alright

[hoary moon]

having another baron is useless

[solid python]

i only now just noticed that balatro song is in 7/4

[shell dagger]

damn

[icy hollow]

Bro. Wtf am i doing 🥀

I should be banned from balatro

[formal oriole]

nah thats skill

[tardy dust]

I love judgements

[icy hollow]

More emperor than fool is interesting

[formal oriole]

?

[tardy dust]

I realized

[arctic meadow]

hi

[tardy dust]

hi

[arctic meadow]

bruh...

[zinc sigil]

Chaos lowkey worth more no?

5 gold every shop

[tardy dust]

yeah

[zinc sigil]

And I only save 1 gold with 100 chips on the big blind

[tardy dust]

I think so

It's ante 1 so u dont really need scoring jokers

[foggy elk]

Fuck the plant chicot is my goat

Saved my life

[tardy dust]

chicot has to be one of the best jokers to be nat negative

[bleak atlas]

polychrome glass red seal triple bloodstone

[foggy elk]

I had 3 negative of yall wondering

[hardy sun]

hey, for photochad, is 4 chad 3 photos more optimal than 2 chads 5 photos?

[tardy dust]

dice carrying

[hexed tundra]

Should I hit the ankh?

[mortal nimbus]

Just did the math quickly, and 4 chad 3 photo should be 27 triggers (including the base instance of the card)

if you can do 3 chad, 4 photo, that is also better

[hardy sun]

I have 2 chads, 3 photos and 2 brainstorms so I can't do that

[mortal nimbus]

I figured as much, just do 4 and 3 then

[hardy sun]

if u wanna gamble then sure

[hardy sun]

ok thanks

[tardy dust]

omg guys a legendary joker!!!!1111!!111

[hardy sun]

is that seeded? if you hit perkeo you can naninf 100%

if u get cryptid instantly

[tardy dust]

nah, unseeded, I'm not taking it

[timid gale]

pants

[tardy dust]

pants

[hardy sun]

why not sell rebate

[tardy dust]

The plant hasn't appeared yet, and I'm scared

[timid gale]

holy pants maxing

[tardy dust]

my best econ joker?

[hardy sun]

if you have a mime baron build, might as well...

[zinc sigil]

Eternal golden joker early ante opinion

[tardy dust]

glass pants for 2x

[tardy dust]

what are you trying to go for?

wrong ping

[tardy dust]

.

[zinc sigil]

Idk

Im ante1

[tardy dust]

I say don't take it

[zinc sigil]

Its lowk strong

But yea

[timid gale]

glass pant naninf run

[tardy dust]

you're on magic deck either way, so, i don't think you're going for naneinf

[tardy dust]

baron mine 9 blueprints 1000 red seal kings in the standard pack

[zinc sigil]

I just wanna win

[hardy sun]

the antimatter dream is crushed

[tardy dust]

it's good econ, if you're just playing casually then take it

you can just not and you'll be fine either way

[tardy dust]

buy blank and blank all over the place

[hardy sun]

you might be onto something here

o7

[tardy dust]

did you take 3 ectos

[hardy sun]

2

[tardy dust]

yeah makes sense

[hardy sun]

it was a crazy seed brainstorm first shop 2 black holes chicot

trib would have made me bust

[tardy dust]

i've been wanting a good chicot seed to do the chicot bug

[hardy sun]

how does that work again do you copy chicot so many times it gives you your whle deck or sm like that

[tardy dust]

you need to ankh or inv a chicot to have 2 or more, then boss blinds like the manacle glitch out and end up giving you more handsize forever

It doesn't work on the needle or the water btw, it just ends up taking away the extra hands after you beat the blind

[hardy sun]

so it's just an expensive way to replace serpent

[quiet ridge]

what do i do here

[tardy dust]

you can take inf ectos, technically

[hardy sun]

fuck the egg

[tardy dust]

what is chad even doing?

[quiet ridge]

idk i grabbed him on ante 1

[tardy dust]

sell chad

[hardy sun]

nooooo photochad please

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 5

[timid gale]

sell chad and blueprint the egg

[tardy dust]

cooking

[quiet ridge]

i like how you think jongo

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 4

[viral raft]

cool...

[compact gazelle]

sell egg and dna or swash for blueprint and wee

[knotty zodiac]

burnt bean straights 🙂

[tardy dust]

do you ever take showman here?

[humble gulch]

Yeah, sell baron

[tardy dust]

thanks but I already skipped

I'll do it if I see another one

[humble gulch]

I could have won with just two jokers but I got walled on ante 7 so...

Bruh

Bruhhh

Stop it

[tardy dust]

some drown while others die of thirst

[knotty zodiac]

oh boy

good thing this isnt a streak run

[fiery nymph]

sub optimal sticker plays

[humble gulch]

Gsg

[humble gulch]

Bruh

[sleek valley]

Why is high stake plasma deck so difficult? Ultimately, all you need is your chips +mult to equal 400, which doesn't seem like much of an ask, yet it seems to be difficult

[shell dagger]

400 mulch becomes 200 chips * 200 mult which is 40k

You need 2.4 million to beat violet vessel

[humble gulch]

It balancing out your score it's not enough for x2 blind size

[shell dagger]

For the normal ante 8 bosses you need like 890 chips and mult for 4 hands

Violet vessel needs 1550

[sand nebula]

im pretty new to this game but i dont understand what im doing wrong to have not won a single run

it just feels like i dont get anything that helps, and then i get outscaled by ante 7

how much of this game is luck

[tardy dust]

you're probably not getting good econ

[tardy dust]

less than you'd expect

[sand nebula]

econ is usually the only thing that is good

like 20+ dollars per round

[tardy dust]

then you're not using that econ to get good stuf

[sand nebula]

im rerolling the shop until im broke and getting nothing

[shell dagger]

What are examples of nothing jokers

[tardy dust]

might be the best shop I've gotten

what do I even buy?

[terse dock]

FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK

[sand nebula]

ts is not balatro twin

[terse dock]

shut up roger waters

[tardy dust]

it is, you just haven't arrived to that part yet

[terse dock]

more like roger my water broke

[sand nebula]

genuinely the only one of these jokers i think i even have unlocked is the dna one, and that was what got me to ante 7 that one time

[terse dock]

baron is unlocked by default

you have won a run by now surely

[gaunt burrow]

i dont remeber lol , i think it bc i dont have anything worth remembering

[sand nebula]

of the probably 10 runs ive done i have not won any no

[tardy dust]

baron and DNA are unlocked by default, you gotta win a game to unlock blueprint

[sand nebula]

i couldve won that last one but i got really badly screwed by a boss blind

[broken glacier]

I win

[sand nebula]

i had a bunch of jokers around face cards and hearts and i was using i think a joker called pareidolia to make everything count as a face

but then i got a boss blind that debuffed all face cards and apparently it also counted for that

so i had to sell it

[humble gulch]

Bleh

[sand nebula]

and then i couldnt keep up with the next ante

[broken glacier]

Mimo is coming

[humble gulch]

I'm not playing endless

[knotty zodiac]

im on ante 8 plasma rn staring down a 2.4m boss blind

bull- 100 chips
foil devious- 150 chips
odd todd with seltzer- 180 chips
saturn- 540 chips, 55 mult
base hand with seltzer- 80 chips

it's still only about 300k per hand without glass

[tardy dust]

I once had a 2 poly blueprints and baron like ante 3 and fumbled cuz I didnt get any kings or anything that worked

[fringe nebula]

runs past ante 8 don't exist

[broken glacier]

Yo tampoco

[knotty zodiac]

and without seltzer/glass id be straight up dead

[humble gulch]

I got three kings and a level 62 pair

[sleek valley]

Yeah. That breakdown really highlights my factor of 10 error there.

[tardy dust]

yeah I didnt get any highcard or pair levels either

[humble gulch]

That's why baron isn't good

[sand nebula]

how much does winning depend on filtering your deck

because ive only ever got a joker for that once

[tardy dust]

not really, unless you have steel kings and highcard levels

[humble gulch]

You can win without deck fixing

[shell dagger]

That is one of many factors that can influence the outcome

[knotty zodiac]

amazing topdeck

[humble gulch]

That's why it isn't good

[compact gazelle]

you don’t need deck manipulation to win
although having some certainly helps

[fringe nebula]

amazing

[sand nebula]

idk what im doing wrong then

[shell dagger]

Just ice

[sand nebula]

should i not be aiming for flushes?

[tardy dust]

I mean blueprint/brainstorm also arent good cuz you need a joker to copy

[fringe nebula]

pair

[sand nebula]

i mean anything else doesnt seem feasible

[fringe nebula]

or 2 pair

[tardy dust]

by that logic

[humble gulch]

Yeah, they aren't great

[shell dagger]

Flushes are the best in ante 1 and thats about it

[sand nebula]

i dont see how anything else would outscale them later on

i havent seen any jokers that help high cards or pairs or anything

[compact gazelle]

flush is the new player trap of poker hands
that and full house but where flush is excellent at pretending to be good to noobs full house is just abysmally worse than any of them would expect

[fringe nebula]

oooooh if only you know

[humble gulch]

Every scaling mult works with pairs

[shell dagger]

All of those “this joker gains +1 mult if you do xyz” are ideal for high card and pair

[humble gulch]

Every scaling chips

[shell dagger]

And theres loads of those

[sand nebula]

more so that google lied to me

[fringe nebula]

there's soooooooooooo many jokers that enable pair

[sand nebula]

pretty much everything i could find said do flushes

[compact gazelle]

google is getting its info from a lot of very unqualified advice givers

namely online magazine article writers and reddit users

[humble gulch]

Every joker that doesn't work with pairs is because they work with another hand

[compact gazelle]

order isn’t a pair joker and order is good
pairs must be a terrible hand type
qed
“checkmate, liberal!”

[sand nebula]

most jokers ive seen either add flat chips or mult, or do something per card, which surely would be better with more cards

[humble gulch]

Yeah, but they're good enough with pairs

[shell dagger]

The ones that give flat chips or mult are better when you can score high with multiple hands

Which you cant do with flushes

[gaunt burrow]

?

[humble gulch]

This is a pairs run for example

[tardy dust]

guys do I sell 1 DNA and buy inv and showman?

[compact gazelle]

more cards is less consistent to be able to play
pairs win more by virtue of their being incredibly trivial to draw and only slightly worse to begin with than other hands

[humble gulch]

This is also a pairs run

[compact gazelle]

wait it’s all <pairs runs?>
always has been

[humble gulch]

Even more pairs

[compact gazelle]

show people runner obelisk pairs runs and watch their head explode

[humble gulch]

More pairs

[humble gulch]

Everytime I take runner I just end up playing straights only

[fringe nebula]

ultimate obelisk build

[humble gulch]

Guess how many non pairs runs I have 🗣️

[ornate plover]

has anyone else had this happen to them ?

i used ankh on my all eternal lineup and it just got stuck there

[tardy dust]

that one roffle video

[ornate plover]

which one

[tardy dust]

that one

[ornate plover]

how good is 5 joker stencils

[tardy dust]

yh

[tardy dust]

it's a bug, tho I don't know how it happens

[shell dagger]

It happens when you attempt to use ankh with 5 eternals

As for why that happens, no idea

[tardy dust]

oh makes sense

[ornate plover]

*eternals

its stuck there for the rest of the run now

[shell dagger]

Quitting to home should fix it

[sand nebula]

yeah i tried going with pairs and lost to the ante 5 boss blind

jokers were meh

[warm wedge]

manacle + stuntman + ouija + ectoplasm + mary andy

[humble gulch]

Which jokers?

[sand nebula]

i got a lot of the right planet card but the boss blind was the arm

[fringe nebula]

stuntman crimson bug

[sand nebula]

uhhhhhhhh
ride the bus, walkie talkie, photograph, rocket, mad joker (didnt help but it was negative and free so whatever), and jolly joker

[humble gulch]

Why photo...

[sand nebula]

because its a multiplier as long as i use a face card? it was the first one i picked up i didnt know whether it would help or not

[knotty zodiac]

ig i couldve gone for a sticker

[humble gulch]

No, you took bus, you should focus on scaling your jokers at this stage of the game, not on xmult

Also, photo is mediocre

[sand nebula]

i wasnt using any face cards anyway

[compact gazelle]

I thought I was alone

[sand nebula]

only reason i still had photo was because nothing even remotely useful had shown up to replace it with

[compact gazelle]

usually when I have runner the pivot never happens because straight becomes the scoring hand and a few saturns is enough to make it not worth pivoting

[humble gulch]

I end up getting deck fixing, shortcut or extra handsize and well, I just don't pivot

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[tardy dust]

I know

Do I sell showman for brainstorm or 1 baron?

I think I know what the answer is I just want clarification

[humble gulch]

Baron

[tardy dust]

knew it

alright thanks

[sand nebula]

when a joker says "when played hand contains" does that mean it has to specifically be that or can it be more than that

like if it says "when played hand contains a pair" and you play three of a kind

would that count

[tardy dust]

yeah

it contains a pair, so it works

[sand nebula]

hmm

this egg is literally doing nothing to keep me going

but money

[shell dagger]

money is precisely what keeps you going

[knotty zodiac]

swash here in case of pivot or save for reroll voucher?

[shell dagger]

save

[knotty zodiac]

oh the egg is temp

[tardy dust]

is it better to copy baron or mime with 2 blueprints and 1 brainstorm?

[sand nebula]

another loss yippee

[shell dagger]

1 more baron copy

[sand nebula]

no change in strategy has worked

[tardy dust]

2 barons 3 mimes?

[shell dagger]

no

[tardy dust]

then?

[shell dagger]

1 more baron than mime

3 and 2

[tardy dust]

ok

thanks

[fringe nebula]

can i survive the hook with this start

[humble gulch]

Go triple lucky

Surely you'll hit mult

[fringe nebula]

no

doesn't sound like a good idea

but hmmm

I can get a bad roll at shop 2

and then die to hook

[gaunt burrow]

finally see the guy

[fringe nebula]

do you even need four fingas on painted deck

sounds like overkill

[noble shuttle]

Wellllllll

They don't have full slots-

so does it matter?

I'd take it myself.

[gaunt burrow]

bc of the bell, so i want to be safe

[tardy dust]

would you take another ecto for the rebate?

no handsize vouchers btw

[ember glen]

is the baron a nat negative

probably yes either way though

you need money

[knotty zodiac]

240 chips vs one funny little seal

the fact that the blue seal is probably better speaks about balance

[merry garnet]

imagine playing balatro 🫩

could be me

[gaunt burrow]

pair slop or pair slop

[brittle ocean]

Me personally I’d go with pair slop

[gaunt burrow]

why my stone got sorted

[compact gazelle]

stones stay with the suit underneath when in deck view

[gaunt burrow]

oh

[compact gazelle]

also is that invite link above a ping the mods thing

never mind looks like it was

[tardy dust]

No, I used an ecto

I'm not taking it tho

[humble gulch]

You die

[tardy dust]

that's why I'm not taking it

[brave fox]

Madness joker run what yall think the soul card will be?

[humble gulch]

I have better questions

Why loyalty

[compact gazelle]

SPECULATIVE FOR THE ETERNAL BASEBALL CARD

[brave fox]

I probably just took it because it was eternal

[dry abyss]

crazy seed

[gaunt burrow]

holo and stone

[flat yew]

hey I ran into a bug where I completed the run on green stake but it won’t show up as completed

[gaunt burrow]

pair slop , pair slop, pair slop , hologram

[cyan bone]

FIRST GOLD STAKE BEATEN

[gaunt burrow]

this can go very very bad

[gaunt burrow]

congrats!

[cyan bone]

ty!

[narrow scroll]

this is one of the worst feelings i have ever felt

[gaunt burrow]

600 more uses of wheel and you have 777

[flat yew]

new highscore🙂‍↕️

[median grove]

should i get tarot merchant on my quest for naneinf?

[tardy dust]

I just got a run with polychrome triboulet ante 1

[pallid galleon]

glorp

will i survive the boss? place your bets

[tardy dust]

director's cut in the shop

[pallid galleon]

dawg you see the shop before you enter the small blind

[candid niche]

do i take wee here to be funny? or play it safe and look in the Jimbo pack

[tardy dust]

It's hidden behind the current voucher

[candid niche]

its blue deck, so i could afford to farm wee a little more

[pallid galleon]

wee good

[candid niche]

fuck it, wee ball

(atro)

[zinc sigil]

Sell both fools and get overstock?

[median grove]

any help here for naneinf?

i have a gold red seal king

but im not sure what i should drop for rebate?

and what hand i should be playing?

maybe 4oak?

[tardy dust]

if you want naneinf, you should be leveling up highcard

[median grove]

thats vague advice

[gaunt burrow]

painted feel so good

[tardy dust]

well that's what you asked, you should play highcard and level it up so you can get a baronmime, you also need more of those red seal kings

just death

[median grove]

bruh i know i have to get to baron mime lol but im not going to start playing high card any time soon

thats not really useful

[tardy dust]

then play pairs

[gaunt burrow]

i dont know if overstock worth over 2 more tarrot card

[pallid galleon]

survived cause im not a chud

[median grove]

well what should i drop for rebate, and should i take space?

[tardy dust]

drop icecream for rebate, space won't do a lot for you

[median grove]

and is it worth skipping the blind for investment tag even though im on ante 4?

or nah

for naneinf

[half rivet]

ngl an all unlocks profile is both more and less fun at the same time. more because all opportunities are on the table, and less because all accomplishments are not

[tardy dust]

you want to see as many shops as you can

so, if you're going rebate, no

[median grove]

okay thanks

[humble gulch]

Mime is so good

Okay, bro

Fuck you

[tardy dust]

I love mime ngl, one of my favourite jokers

i know there are some Idol haters out there that are gonna love me selling him

[humble gulch]

I'm a trib hater

[ebon condor]

i actually hate all jokers

[tardy dust]

do you like flowerpot

[tardy dust]

I actually hate bpbs

[ebon condor]

yes

[tardy dust]

ok

[candid niche]

yup. wee was the play

[tardy dust]

I like you

do retriggers count for wee?

[ebon condor]

erm.. i have a boyfriend 🙄

[tardy dust]

we can share

[minor portal]

it actually subtracts the amount of chips you get

[ebon condor]

theres not enough of me to go around

[tardy dust]

so that's why I have a -20998 wee

[viral raft]

X/10 pairslop? imo a 8/10 because of no discard thing

[ebon condor]

8/10 because no scaling chips joker i think

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[viral raft]

+100 chips by Swash and egg

but yeah

[ebon condor]

but green + ramen is classic original craftsmanship

[thin garnet]

HOLT SHIT I JUST GOT TO THE FINAL BOSS FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IM JUST BLOWN AWAY FROM HOW COOL THE BACKGROUND IS

[tardy dust]

bad news for that trib hater

[ebon condor]

ill be honest i still really dont get the appeal of this joker overlay mod thing

[thin garnet]

also this boss ain't doing shit i've gotten way more then 100000 this run

[tardy dust]

ngl I just use it cuz everyone does

[humble gulch]

Two in a row...

FUCK YES

[ebon condor]

wake up sheeple 🙄

[tardy dust]

I'm sorry to be controlled by the masses

[ebon condor]

ooh downgrade unfortunately

[lime remnant]

some holy greed

[thin garnet]

yeah i think i can beat him in 1 hand with just the base value of my straight

LET'S GOOO

[viral raft]

gg wp

[thin garnet]

wait what does wp mean?

[viral raft]

well played

[thin garnet]

ah

this was my build btw

[tardy dust]

ngl I love straights

[viral raft]

lowkey funny hahah

[tardy dust]

they're so fun to play

[viral raft]

cool build

[thin garnet]

me too

[thin garnet]

thanks

[viral raft]

Straights are fun

sadly is just a minigame to go pairslop

[thin garnet]

i had level 12 straights btw

[viral raft]

yeah we saw, lowkey great

[thin garnet]

WAIT WHEN WAS WEE A RARE???

[viral raft]

Wee was always rare

[thin garnet]

I SWEAR IT WAS COMMON

[viral raft]

Jimbo is the common one

[viral raft]

Jimbo/Joker is the common one

Wee is just a tiny version of it

[thin garnet]

aww hell yea

[viral raft]

peak!

[thin garnet]

egg

[viral raft]

now sell it to get 4$ free

or 5

i don't remenber well at all

[thin garnet]

WHYYY????

[viral raft]

because egg says so

[tardy dust]

never got that damn ecto

[viral raft]

guys i'm cooking in my file?

[thin garnet]

please delete this post i have trauma from wheel

[thin garnet]

HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET IN THE e????

[unborn cliff]

score more than e10

[viral raft]

Endless mode

You reach more than E10 in math and appears!

[knotty zodiac]

scholar run exploded

[pallid galleon]

w nat negative

[tardy dust]

chicot bug run incoming??

[viral raft]

deserved fuck u Idol

[knotty zodiac]

not even in endless eh?

[tardy dust]

ok this is getting ridiculous

[viral raft]

play baron instead lol

[tardy dust]

usually when you're grabbing Baron it means you have your deck already built up

[viral raft]

Baron is a fraud but atleast doesn't ask you for literally god tier deckfix to work

[viral raft]

yep, that's why so low rounds but actually good amount of wins, the Fraud only appears when the run is already won

Spare is so goated tbh

[lime remnant]

do i pivot to 2pair, or do i try family, or do i keep stm instead

family is 6x bc hex

[crisp perch]

I swear balatro does ts on purpose

[crisp perch]

Wdym family

[flat tiger]

do you need to unlock all jokers before C+ achievement pops?

[lime remnant]

the 4oak

[lime remnant]

no

[crisp perch]

Tryna be different n run a discard build n its no discard 💔

[crisp perch]

Apparently u need to win another game

I won on all stakes but don’t got the achievement

[flat tiger]

so thats why, not because I have never bought Satellie in a stake game (challenge mode didnt count)

[keen night]

Trib run

[crisp perch]

Family seems kinda hard to build around with queen joker no?

[tardy dust]

I just got a three tribs 2 blueprints run, it was awesome

[lime remnant]

immediately punished

[flat tiger]

you dont need that many queens in hand if you do 4oak?

[crisp perch]

Hm

13x1.5=19.5 13x6=78

[lime remnant]

im building towards queen anyways so could be that

but

[crisp perch]

Wait true😭

Ye it’s just family then

[lime remnant]

sold family anyways

for burnt

im going all in on stm

[noble mango]

does anybody talk about certificate

[lime remnant]

its good

its great

blue seal = good

purple = good

[tardy dust]

what about green seal

[flat tiger]

i dont get it enough to play with it that much, but I got it shop 1 rental one time and instant sell with 0 cost after it gave me a blue seal

[noble mango]

till it decides
"red seal king?, nah have an ace"

welp
is there any like
evil strenght

[lime remnant]

op