🕹・game-discussion

[fringe nebula]

madlad gameplay

[heavy heron]

oh hey it’s the supple cheeks knock offf

[heavy heron]

i mean hey i won!

[flat tiger]

125k per hand is enough for amber acron? well unless you ened straight to score 125k i guess

[dim thicket]

you'll have to fight 2 of them and so even if ther's just one that kills you its a 50 50 to lose after buying heiro

[heavy heron]

yup!

500k more than enough

[dim thicket]

crazy balls to make that play 😭

[heavy heron]

yall be sleeping on the hallucination

i carried him all the way to the end

jokers revealed last frame

[fringe nebula]

hallu is my sixth most used joker iirc

[dim thicket]

not at all he's a good ass joker but i feel like a 3x is pretty huge to skip

[fringe nebula]

or was it 7

[broken abyss]

uuuh do I take brainstorm here??
and if so what do I put on the left?

[flat tiger]

so do I take both here, I ditched ramen and died, should I ditch chad or not take the marble

[dim thicket]

i think it's like my 11th or smth don't quite remember

genuinley great joker

[heavy heron]

yeah but 3 steel is already better than 3x

look what hallucination did for me

he’s so awesome

[dim thicket]

why not both tho?

[humble gulch]

If I get this online I'll be really mad

[heavy heron]

okay good point

[heavy heron]

i think i didn’t have space because

uhhh

needed luchador for plant

[dim thicket]

ditch chad id say

[flat tiger]

hey look $4 for sell

[broken abyss]

What do I sell for Brainstorm?? 😭
do I even????

[zinc sigil]

I just first time gold stake ghost deck ?????????

[dim thicket]

holy shit

DRUNKARD

[zinc sigil]

I was stuck on orange stake for 2 days

[dim thicket]

great job!! :DD

[zinc sigil]

The fuck

[fringe nebula]

not surprised

[zinc sigil]

Why was orange stake so much harder

[fringe nebula]

supplecheeks gave you some coaching so

[broken abyss]

plz help me 😭 idk if I'm even supposed to take brainstorm here, much less what do I sell for it.

[zinc sigil]

Look at my jokers

[flat tiger]

my dumbass thought I can survive without ramen until holograme get scaling

[dim thicket]

yes take it

[zinc sigil]

Had ramen too rn lmaoo

[broken abyss]

for what? 😭

[heavy heron]

stm steel build ❌
4oak levels steel build ✅

[dim thicket]

if you have great score sell dusk if not sell buisness card

and copy chad if you have luckies or smth if not then copy photo

[broken abyss]

I do have great score, the business card is my only econ besides luckies.

but okay.

[frank grove]

i would sell business

[broken abyss]

will copy chad 👍

[frank grove]

copy photo for score, chad for money

[dim thicket]

then probably sell dusk i'd say

money very important

[frank grove]

also the run dies unless you find an idol so

[broken abyss]

I mean fair.

[humble gulch]

Maybe I had enough Balatro... just took eternal rental willy by accident...

[frank grove]

keeping dusk is worth it for the idol pivot possibly

[flat tiger]

why do my spaceman either give me levels 3 out of 4 hands or once every 6 hands and never in between or the supposedly 1 in 4

[dim thicket]

jimbo is telling you to quit 😔

[dim thicket]

ok that i didn't think of that mb

tho keep in mind with sock AND chad dusk becomes less valuable

[frank grove]

yeah

[humble gulch]

I'll do the gsg in order, I find it more comfortable

[frank grove]

unless for idol

[dim thicket]

stil very good and worth considering to keep but more money means more idol chances and you have more retriggers then scoring effects so

[frank grove]

were you trying plasma, black, erratic and then the rest order?

[dim thicket]

good! whatever you like is whats best after all

[humble gulch]

No

[fringe nebula]

out is doing red->erratic

[humble gulch]

Just now

[fringe nebula]

in order

[humble gulch]

But like

[fringe nebula]

I'm seriously considering selling banana for dice

you know what, let's ball

[dim thicket]

i mena wouldn't be terrible

[humble gulch]

I got this feeling of wanting to not play anymore when I opened plasma 😭

[flat tiger]

on perishable business?

[dim thicket]

that's a lot of possibe money

[echo sphinx]

MONIS YEAHHHH

[frank grove]

selling banana so you can take both campfire and dice?

[echo sphinx]

yep

[flat tiger]

or grab campfire while you can

[echo sphinx]

yep yep

monis and monis sink in 1

[fringe nebula]

greed rewarded

[echo sphinx]

MMMMMMMMM

[humble gulch]

Not as greedy as me

[fringe nebula]

great, even more money

[flat tiger]

i may have campfire without dice because I am too scare of overspend (maybe I should at times)

[echo sphinx]

LOL WTF

[zinc sigil]

I need a new deck Im done with blue plasma ghost whats next not erratic

[humble gulch]

Did you skip for coupon or arcana?

[flat tiger]

I just do them in order lol

[dim thicket]

time to make like the mayor from the lorax and pray for no plants

[humble gulch]

What am I saying

[zinc sigil]

Hmmmmm what did u have most fun with

[humble gulch]

Ignore this

❤️‍🩹

[dim thicket]

i'll treat it like a skip and pass it by without a glance lol

[flat tiger]

most are not too different for me, I just have extra touble with painted plasma

[humble gulch]

The day that Balatro gave me active CTE

[zinc sigil]

I could try painted

[dim thicket]

we all get it one day with enough hours, welcome to the club

[fringe nebula]

that is not an issue at all
far from an issue because I usually pivot towards hand agnostic scoring

here win

[echo sphinx]

¿?????

[dim thicket]

painteds pretty cool imo, like having more hand size and the minus joker slot isn't like the worsttt thing in the world

[echo sphinx]

sock replacement methinj

[dim thicket]

man you just getting everthiing you wnat lmao

[flat tiger]

why are 2 pair so hard to draw lol

[dim thicket]

mmm with like the campfire?

[dim thicket]

that's a good point

[zinc sigil]

I‘ll look to play straights I guess

[dim thicket]

hell yeah

i got like 300 i think? have to check rq

[fringe nebula]

eternal smiley face i take at ante 1 just to survive earlygame

[humble gulch]

5 C++ in 500 hours 🔥

[fringe nebula]

I'm trating it as a deadweight at later antes

[dim thicket]

yeah 355

[echo sphinx]

25 pre steel mult seems pretty good to me

[dim thicket]

that makes sense

[flat tiger]

C++ in 100 hours? thats crazy

even C+ in 100 hours is great

[minor portal]

the first C++ took 499 hours and the other four took 1 hour.

[flat tiger]

C+ is 120 runs

how do you even C++ in 100 hour

[dim thicket]

iirc it took me about 320 hours for my C++? maybe less i didn't keep super good track

[flat tiger]

I am like 160 maybe 180 hour and I am still 2 deck short for C+

[dim thicket]

hey that's not bad

[safe flower]

Photochad...

[dim thicket]

C+ is WAY harder then C++ in my expierence so

[flat tiger]

wait how

[humble gulch]

Not really, I think it was 200 > 140 > 65 > 25 > 40

[flat tiger]

do you just rush gold stake on one deck then only do that deck for C++?

[safe flower]

Most people play yellow

[humble gulch]

I have floating hours, maybe zodiac++ was like 30

[humble gulch]

And erratic++ 50

[dim thicket]

from my expierence it was way harder to get adjusted to all the stakes and decks, but once your familair with them and you get C+ then it's a lot easier to clean up and get the remaining jokers for C++ since you got the funadmentals down

C++ is more tedious but not harder imo

[dim thicket]

yellow is def the best for winning runs yeah, tho i played mainly ghost for mine just bc that's the one i like the most and find the most success on

[flat tiger]

I mean at least it seems to me C++ is mroe of an RNG grind, for runs that has joker slot left, and for non-sticked to appear late into the run

[dim thicket]

yes exactly

[fringe nebula]

whoops

[humble gulch]

No, unlock all and straight to gold stake

In one deck

[dim thicket]

thats not hard so much as is luck based and more of jsut a grind

[frank grove]

my fastest C++ was like 30 hours on abandoned only since its my fav

[dim thicket]

damn good shit

[frank grove]

i find playing decks i like helps c++ runs a lot

[flat tiger]

i still have not unlock satellite and have 5 challenge left

[humble gulch]

I rushed through ghost deck lmao

Five days

Or six

I don't know

[dim thicket]

sattelites the one where you have to get all the money right?

i don't remmeber most of the unlock conditions so forgive me lmao

[flat tiger]

yeah, i ususally die before I get $400 after ante 8, and I am not comfortable to stop spending before ante 8

[dim thicket]

okay yea it is just googled it

[frank grove]

whats after gsg, black++?

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[dim thicket]

yeah that's kinda of a doozy. i think what i did was ananglyph plus a tag that gives a ton of money for mine

[frank grove]

I want to do something other than deck++ i want to do a sillier thing

[humble gulch]

House++

[dim thicket]

i remember doing a painted deck mime run with a ton of gold cards too but idt thatwas the one that gave me sat

[humble gulch]

Full houses and flush houses

[dim thicket]

i need to do that shit irl

[humble gulch]

Doctor House profile

[flat tiger]

move to next deck per win

[flat tiger]

i want mansion ++ or, you know, castle ++

[humble gulch]

In this economy?

[frank grove]

I want to do straight++

[humble gulch]

Today's economy is just black deck

[vale shale]

Alright alright. 1 take gold stake run any deck. What deck we thinking bout.

[humble gulch]

Erratic

[vale shale]

Erratical

[frank grove]

you really hate that deck bro 😭

[flat tiger]

I HATE IT when 2 pairs are so hard to draw and the space man level my 3oak instead of when I spam 10 hands of pairs/2 pairs

[humble gulch]

Yes

❤️‍🩹

[vale shale]

Erratic 1 take is probably the hardest thing to 1 take

[frank grove]

its genuinely horrible i cant believe you did c++ on only that shit 😭

[vale shale]

Because it's either lose immediately or have a disadvantage

[flat tiger]

isnt erratic the easiest to do pair/2pairs with?

[humble gulch]

I regreted it like halfway through

[vale shale]

Yeah but it can also be like "here's 6 3's"

[flat tiger]

if I ever do C++ i am moving to the next deck on each win

[frank grove]

erratic has a higher chance for 3oak to be the default but the entire muscle memory of the hundreds of hours playing the game on a good deck goes completly out the window

[vale shale]

And I can't get pass ante 1

[flat tiger]

you have 3 pairs now?

[vale shale]

For ante 1 3 pairs is not enougj.

[flat tiger]

then you have 5 of a kind for ante1

[fringe nebula]

one of the rare cases where planet merchant is actually worth taking

[vale shale]

I'd have to dig all 5 3's

[frank grove]

digging to find 4oak even on erratic can be tough/impossible in ante 1

[humble gulch]

As a Geometry Dash player erratic++ was just like, I wanted to die already

[frank grove]

😭

[broken abyss]

Maths question...
Photochad, sock, dusk, brainstorm.
Full glass flush five hand, no red seals.
Is it better to put sock/dusk on the left instead of chad? You lose out on a trigger of the left most, which is losing 4x (glass and photo), but you gain 16x from extra triggers of the others.

[cedar sable]

joining the clown show soon (just bought balatro)

[flat tiger]

WTF why cant i get these

[vale shale]

There's a website for this

[frank grove]

copy sock/dusk

[humble gulch]

Copy retrigger

[vale shale]

Iforgorthe name doe

[cedar sable]

brainstorm imo

[humble gulch]

There's a organ for this, I think it's called brain

[broken abyss]

It's between chad and sock/dusk, aka both of them are retriggers...

lmao

[cedar sable]

if you can get it back fast

[humble gulch]

Copy sock

[broken abyss]

?

[humble gulch]

🐑

[cedar sable]

other than that

sock

[frank grove]

they're asking which joker to copy with brainstorm

[broken abyss]

That's what my brain told me, just wanted to confirm with more experienced ppl

ty

[flat tiger]

full glass is always gonna be the most retrigger copy, so sock/dusk

[cedar sable]

copy brainstorm

[broken abyss]

😐

[cedar sable]

either that or copy sock

[broken abyss]

troll?

[cedar sable]

i never played the game

[frank grove]

then what

[cedar sable]

how tf am i supposed to know

anything

[broken abyss]

??

then maybe like

[cedar sable]

whatever I'm leaving the server

[broken abyss]

don't throw random ass suggestions

out there

[cedar sable]

I'm unfunny anyways

[broken abyss]

to confuse me

[flat tiger]

if you listen to your brain you put brainstorm on the left because you ahve enough to win anyway

[fringe nebula]

sock is x32
chad is x16

[broken abyss]

Enough to win the run? yes. I did that 3 antes ago. 😛

[flat tiger]

if you are palying full glass hand either you are one shotting anyway or you are so far deep you wont win anyway

[fringe nebula]

sorry my brain just jumbled the names

[broken abyss]

hooooooly shit blueprint in shop.
I have photochad, dusk, sock, and brainstorm. Do I even TAKE this blueprint??

[fringe nebula]

you will find a god seed if you play more eventually

[fringe nebula]

replace photo

[broken abyss]

with what?

[fringe nebula]

and then find an idol

[broken abyss]

finding idol is the necessary here sure but like

[fringe nebula]

with blueprint on shop obviously

[broken abyss]

why would I sell my only xmult 😭

[frank grove]

replace photo with blueprint in the shop, and then replace chad with idol right?

[fringe nebula]

yeah

[broken abyss]

won't survive next blind without it

[frank grove]

you just said you're playing full hand of glass

[broken abyss]

I'm in Ante 11. The 128x from Photo is making a big difference right now.

so likeeee do I really replace photo with BP now and hope to god I somehow survive the next blind?

oh wait

nvm

photo is eternal 🤦‍♂️

so that's not an option

this run is fucked then isn't it.

[humble gulch]

Bruhh

Just do another one

[broken abyss]

another run?

I aint getting this lucky for another month at least lmfao

this was my first time beating blue stake

[flat tiger]

my luck went to random ass challenges

[frank grove]

if chad isnt eternal replacing chad with bluepritn when playing full hand of glass is better right?

[broken abyss]

ooh true. chad is not.

[frank grove]

did you get e with this?

[humble gulch]

No...

Almost tho

[fringe nebula]

plant water mouth

[zinc sigil]

Icl bro painted deck is annoying asf

Wdym 4 jokers

[humble gulch]

And I were playing pairs still

So the mouth wasn't a problem

[fringe nebula]

plant is still fine because you have red square

[humble gulch]

The same with water

[zinc sigil]

Whats the mouth?

[fringe nebula]

only play 1 hand type

[zinc sigil]

Ohhh

[flat tiger]

they will tell you more hand size means easier full houses and "better scaling" but at the end pair is still king and -1 joker slot is a big deal

[cedar sable]

discarding royal flush

[zinc sigil]

I played straights

[compact niche]

when I get a poly card that adds chips, where should I put it left-right?

[flat tiger]

painted and plasma took me the longest on purple +

[vale shale]

Hm.

[frank grove]

i dont find the loss of the joker slot that big of a deal it just makes early eternals tougher to decide over

[humble gulch]

Right, order of chips doesn't matter

[zinc sigil]

But I dont think im gonna gs this next its annoying

[compact niche]

awesome thanks

[cedar sable]

iirc it doesn't matter

poly is like

last one to trigger

iirc

omg bruh

i genuinely

have no idea

[flat tiger]

that is already a big deal, you cant even take weak eternals because you only have 3 left

[cedar sable]

it is a huge deal

[zinc sigil]

My white stake run was pretty hard

[humble gulch]

I only need three jokers to win

🗣️

[zinc sigil]

Idk 4 jokers is a big deal to me

[vale shale]

I don't find it as a huge deal

[cedar sable]

1 missing joker slot is just

[frank grove]

Being able to clear ante 1 easier without a joker makes early eternals less interesting anyway

[cedar sable]

very detrimental imo

[vale shale]

I can take like eternal zany joker and still win

[zinc sigil]

Those are chip mult xmult or what are u saying

[cedar sable]

because uhh

idk

[frank grove]

so it doesnt do anything, and you can still take an early eternal cause you dont need 5 jokers to win most gs runs anyway

[humble gulch]

It depends, it's normally +mult and two xmult

I'm genuinely really good at playing with three jokers or less

[vale shale]

Cavendish bp and brainstorm 🤪

[zinc sigil]

I started playing with planet cards more and they scale harder than I thought, probably the reason I win more runs

[cedar sable]

ngl i need to shut up and finish balatro first

[vale shale]

Even that isn't auto win

[errant brook]

Gold stake naneinf grind is beyond miserable. If only I found Burglar when I had everything else 2 weeks ago I wouldn't be doing this anymore

[humble gulch]

I've mastered stickering

[cedar sable]

before saying anything

[frank grove]

yeah a lot of runs can do without chips jokers cause planet levels (painted specific allows for 3oak and 4oak a little easier and they scale better so thats part of it) and blue seals are insaneeee

[zinc sigil]

Yea blue seals are really op

I used to never take them

[flat tiger]

i beg for early blue seals every run

but i only get them half the time maybe less

[zinc sigil]

But I started playing this game really a month ago

So what do I know

[cedar sable]

what does blue seal do again

[zinc sigil]

Give u the planet card u won the round with

[flat tiger]

FREE PLANETS

[cedar sable]

sorry I haven't played the game

I'm like

dumb

[zinc sigil]

No worries im new aswell

[flat tiger]

its FREEEE

[zinc sigil]

[cedar sable]

but when i came back to house

[flat tiger]

and you get a lot of them

[cedar sable]

take my money localthunk

[humble gulch]

Bro's the supreme poser

[cedar sable]

after finishing vanilla imma do modded

[zinc sigil]

Why is there no deck in which u can play with 6 card hands

[cedar sable]

whar

[zinc sigil]

Last played never 😭✌🏼

[cedar sable]

i just bought it

omg

[zinc sigil]

Bro did more yapping than playing

[warm wedge]

am i screwed or am i screwed

[cedar sable]

I'm bored

[frank grove]

black deck rework: all 5 card hands are now 6 card hands, good luck

[broken abyss]

I HIT MY FIRST E

[humble gulch]

Skill issue

[broken abyss]

HOLY

BANGGGGGG

[flat tiger]

THROWBACK

[zinc sigil]

Wait thats not what I meant

[frank grove]

took throwback: deserved

[cedar sable]

gg

[warm wedge]

fair fair

[broken abyss]

My first E score 🔥 🔥 🔥

[warm wedge]

honestly better than sith sense tho

[zinc sigil]

Huge one too

[zinc sigil]

Sixth sense is insane

[cedar sable]

i genuinely forgot or what

[warm wedge]

not when im tryna beat the plant

[cedar sable]

is blueprint copies left joker

or I'm just

dumb

wait no

[zinc sigil]

What do sixes have to do with a boss blind

[cedar sable]

i meant to say right

[flat tiger]

i hate rank specific shit, i need to draw then and then roll the chance, and I just never get anything from those

[zinc sigil]

Its right joker

[broken abyss]

blueprint copies joker to the right of it. Brainstorm copies farthest left joker.

[cedar sable]

oh ok

[warm wedge]

im tryna win the plant,not use a hand for a spectral

[cedar sable]

@broken abyss

[zinc sigil]

I hate 8 ball lmao 1 in 4 chance gtfoh

[frank grove]

then just dont use sixth sense for a round i dont see the problem

[humble gulch]

I like sixth sense, I'd use almost every card it gives

[zinc sigil]

Except ouija u mean?

[humble gulch]

Ouija is fine

[flat tiger]

i love ouija, not because it increase my chance of winning but it gives me reason to not pair

[zinc sigil]

Me neither figured its ragebait and kept my cortisol low

[humble gulch]

I wouldn't use ecto or incantation

[cedar sable]

discarding royal flush

[zinc sigil]

Ecto pretty cool in painted I realized

U just have a normal deck

[cedar sable]

with +1 hand size iirc

wait

[zinc sigil]

Yea

[cedar sable]

does ecto removes 1/2 hand size

[frank grove]

ill use incan for holo scaling outside of that uhhh maybe drivers license if im already committed to more deck bloating

[zinc sigil]

How do you know

[cedar sable]

i watched balatro gameplay

[humble gulch]

Really specific to consider it tho...

[cedar sable]

[zinc sigil]

[cedar sable]

but yeah

ecto is pretty op

[frank grove]

Yeah, i do consider it a little bit, if its like ecto/hex and i already have stuff vs incan sometimes

[cedar sable]

if you can keep up with the hand size

[humble gulch]

I always have fewer jokers so hex and ankh are fine

[frank grove]

yeah you're sticker maxxing

[zinc sigil]

I have like 6 jokers I havent unlocked and im too lazy to do so

An entire run just to get a joker

Fuck off

[humble gulch]

I've mastered stickering

[frank grove]

I think im going for a 20 ws on abandoned or zodiac the next time i play, idk which one i should go for though

[cedar sable]

imma see if you need to do smth to unlock main in or it's available from start

[humble gulch]

Zodiac gets boring ngl

[zinc sigil]

Do I wanna know

[broken abyss]

Still no goddamn idol... I'm into Ante 12 after a Heiroglyph.

[zinc sigil]

There 4 jokers where I need 30 of a single suit

[compact gazelle]

its worth doing

that ones good

[zinc sigil]

Dont say that…

Now I have to

[frank grove]

yeah i like zodiac a lot cause it opens some silly stuff up but it can become pretty samey

[zinc sigil]

[compact gazelle]

dont do the hearts one

[zinc sigil]

Okay

[cedar sable]

oh available at start

[zinc sigil]

Any deck rec where I can do it easiest

[cedar sable]

cool

[compact gazelle]

have you ever wanted a full suit of your deck to act like stone cards but without losing their rank and suit

[cedar sable]

you have to

[compact gazelle]

checkered starts you with 26 lol

[zinc sigil]

My head is hurting

I read that 3 times

Ohh

But why stone cards

Ohhh

Okay okay

[compact gazelle]

(+50 chips)

[zinc sigil]

Yes yes

[compact gazelle]

50 is a lot of chips

:3

[frank grove]

question? if you have 30 wilds does that unlock all the uncommon suit jokers or does it just count the base suit? probably the latter right?

ive never tried cause why would i have that many wilds but

would be a fun interaction i guess?

[cedar sable]

true

[zinc sigil]

Wait

[humble gulch]

Base suit

[zinc sigil]

What does this have to do with stone cards

[compact gazelle]

google says wild cards count towards the unlock but i dont believe it fully

[compact gazelle]

theres nothing to do with stone cards lol
only the number is the same

[frank grove]

yeah i think they would count as base, like how it does in boss blinds that disable them

[flat tiger]

it does count, wild card is every suit

[frank grove]

except when they're not

[flat tiger]

not when they are debuffed

[broken abyss]

? this isn't correct tho - boss blinds that disable suits disable all wilds.

[frank grove]

yeah they default back to their base suit

you cant make a flush with a debuffed wild

[compact gazelle]

you could probably test it with dev hack mods

[frank grove]

yeah im going to

[broken abyss]

oh for purposes of like flushes and things?

ohhhhhhhh I see

[zinc sigil]

This boss is funny

[flat tiger]

any suit debuff will debuff wild because "they are all suits"

[compact gazelle]

"do something"
"i cant"

[zinc sigil]

Lmaoooooo

[flat tiger]

time to get smeared joker

[warm wedge]

halp how to get luchador tutorial

[compact gazelle]

get glass please

[zinc sigil]

How bad is the hearts joker

Could get it right now

[warm wedge]

not if its debuffed, their face glass

[compact gazelle]

so basically
dont 👍

[zinc sigil]

Erm

👍🏽

[flat tiger]

it will work well until you low roll and die

[compact gazelle]

get like
glass "not-a-face-card"s

ever heard the saying "plant doesnt counter photochad"
favorite of one and only one member of this server

[dim thicket]

money

lots of rolls

[compact niche]

math question before I potentially blow this run - is the +30 chips from scary face worth keeping over the x2.2?

[flat tiger]

at that point being lucky is all you need

[compact gazelle]

that face when

[warm wedge]

kinda broke

[compact gazelle]

whats your base hand mult

sorry chips

mult as well actually

[compact gazelle]

x3.3 might beat out smiley

[flat tiger]

most of the time the X2.2 is better, especially when you ahve basball card

[broken abyss]

FINALLY AN IDOLLLLLL
Okay. Full Glass, mostly red seal but still working on that. Blueprint, eternal Brainstorm, Sock, Dusk, eternal Photo. What do I sell of Sock/Dusk/Blueprint for the Idol?

[frank grove]

they act as their base suit

[broken abyss]

I assume blueprint?

[zinc sigil]

Do I do it for the funnies

Id have to sell campfire

[compact gazelle]

oh dear its the worst hand type in the game
well no matter
swap smiley for steel if youre playing house

[zinc sigil]

But holy stonks

[compact niche]

I am, thanks

[compact gazelle]

good to know
just kidding it means absolutely nothing

[broken abyss]

Is Blueprint the sell here? I assume so

[compact niche]

oh wait i almost clicked scary

sell scary

not smiley, right?

[flat tiger]

why sell campfire, get rid of the shitty ass delay g

[compact gazelle]

dusk? the one thats a flat downgrade of another?

[frank grove]

its funny that theres yet another reason why wilds are unintuitive and bad

[warm wedge]

welp thats gone

[compact gazelle]

jolly

[broken abyss]

Oh wait true.
it is worth mentioning that the dusk and brainstorm are polychrome, and the Blueprint/Sock/Photo are Foil, if that changes anything.

[compact gazelle]

you have to do it for the silly

[zinc sigil]

Moneh

[compact gazelle]

wilds are counterintuitively convuluted in so many ways

[warm wedge]

BRO LUCHADOR YOU COULDNT HAVE CAME LAST RUN?!?!?!?

[flat tiger]

delay g is one of the worse "econ joker"

[zinc sigil]

Well im one of the worst players

We fit well

[broken abyss]

still worth if the dusk is polychrome and the blueprint/sock are foil?

[compact gazelle]

delayed and satellite fighting tooth and nail for last place

[zinc sigil]

Lmaoo

[compact gazelle]

the nail would be a good boss blind

[compact gazelle]

id say probably

blueprint switching offers more than poly

and dusk is
yknow
dusking it on all of one hand per round

[flat tiger]

it is easy to get 4 planets in a run, you only get $4 if you have god like draw and never need and discard

[broken abyss]

Do I put Idol on the left for Brainstorm? or Sock?

[zinc sigil]

Does lovers count towards spades

[compact gazelle]

satellite and 4 planets: $19 minimum

[broken abyss]

Blueprint is copying brainstorm

[zinc sigil]

Okay..

[frank grove]

yeah they just count as their base suit

[flat tiger]

you are passively getting 4+ planets in a run because you dont always get your main planets

[zinc sigil]

Thats me btw

[compact gazelle]

delayed and satellite both have their place
delayed is for early game when you have a strong scoring joker for the first few rounds (that isnt summit)
satellite is for when youve already used random bs planets

[frank grove]

sometimes i am opening celest packs at bad times when my fool has something good in it and i check and then i dont take a random planet i dont need but thats somewhat niche

[compact gazelle]

neither is that great

[zinc sigil]

Its staring at me @compact gazelle

[compact gazelle]

if you want to unlock the paid actor you can

(1 in 2 for hearts to give 1.5x on score)

[zinc sigil]

Do you have cats

[compact gazelle]

the "spades guy" is better

[zinc sigil]

So its literally 50% aj ?

[glass creek]

Nahhh, only the rest of the suits

[zinc sigil]

I mean to unlock jokers

[zinc sigil]

I have 2 :3

[compact gazelle]

aj with performance anxiety and one suit
and also it hates you

[humble gulch]

Well, now we have two Lunas

[frank grove]

for unlocking jokers wilds only counts to get smeared and drivers license i guess 😭

[zinc sigil]

LMAO it cant love me?

[frank grove]

but for the suit uncommons no they dont count

[flat tiger]

did I heard you said vampire food?

[compact gazelle]

i have to say
getting 4 planets early in a run for speculative satellite is a strange investment choice :3

[compact niche]

fuck I barely cleared ante 7 andd freaking 8 is gonna make me sell one of my jokers

[compact gazelle]

basically satellite and delayed are only found at mutually exclusive stages of game progression

[compact niche]

question: what happens if you get that blind with only eternal jokers? do you just keep them then or do you get locked out of everything?

[compact gazelle]

and delayed is the less consistent but cheaper and lower committment of the two

[frank grove]

your cards are debuffed

[flat tiger]

you are most likely getting Pluto and mercury anyway, and Venus/Jupiter is just another pick ups when you dont get main hands

[compact gazelle]

leaf
you dont have to sell a joker on leaf yknow

[compact gazelle]

im gonna be honest in the first few antes my priority is not to use random planets

[warm wedge]

ig showman likes hanging ppl

[compact niche]

could I skip both rounds to have +3 hand size for the boss?

[compact gazelle]

the performative executioner

[frank grove]

yeah leaf mostly doesnt matter as long as you dont rely on onscoring effects

[warm wedge]

fah sigil gave me clubs on checkered

[compact gazelle]

so theres a question for you here
is the scary face chips more valuable than the polychrome

[frank grove]

ill use a saturn early to clear ante 1 boss and round 4 without jokers other than that almost never taking ante 1 planets

[compact gazelle]

saturn my beloved
likewise here if i see it in shop

[warm wedge]

gambaling 🔥

[flat tiger]

blackhole should count as a planet

[compact gazelle]

but aside from that
early celestials is like
iffy at best

[compact gazelle]

a planet or all the planets

[flat tiger]

i mean why not all TBH, its as rare as legendary soul

[zinc sigil]

So kaiasann are u joking or do I really not want to unlock it

[compact gazelle]

some people have asked for that before (whether it would also include the secret hands if not yet played was never specified tho)

[zinc sigil]

If its bait im not gonna bother the headache

But it sounds good to me

[frank grove]

yeah, i guess the const problem exists though

[compact gazelle]

but its kinda pointless to add one synergy against game rules between a bad uncommon and a legendary consumable

[flat tiger]

it doesnt even scale constellation right now

[compact gazelle]

its totally up to you

[frank grove]

for satelite i think that would be good, but then for const it probably is far too much value for a 4/6/8 dollar investment to get +1.2x

[compact gazelle]

its a spectral so of course it doesnt

but some people think it ought to count and others dont

[zinc sigil]

I‘ll try 👍🏽 and if it is as bad as u made it out to be I‘ll blame you for not warning me enough

[flat tiger]

it doesnt have to be a spectral

[compact gazelle]

personally i have no opinion on the matter :3

[flat tiger]

it appear in planet packs anyway

[frank grove]

it can appear in spectral packs btw

[compact niche]

by my math a base full house (face cards only) goes from 390 to 240 if I remove the chips (190 + 50 from the cards themselves)

so I think maybe sell baseball card instead? though that causes 1.5x three times so actually maybe not?

[autumn trout]

Just got my 5th ever win.

[compact gazelle]

its like how soul wont scale your fortune teller

[frank grove]

same with soul they both can appear in spectral packs

[flat tiger]

yeah it can appear in both, so why not just make it a planet card

[frank grove]

what

[flat tiger]

soul is never a tarot?

[autumn trout]

This game is consuming my every thought.

[frank grove]

cause using a fool would be 24 total levels across all your hands what

thats the reason its a spectral same with soul

soul and black hole used to have planet/tarot art before the fool problem happened

[compact niche]

however I skipped both so I can take two 50% shots at giving a joker foil/poly/holo

[compact gazelle]

thinking for yourself 🎉
basically just roughly figure out how much you score with each option and do the one that scores the most

you got this i believe in you

[broken abyss]

Soul is a Spectral card.

[broken abyss]

It can appear in Arcana packs, but is a Spectral.

[warm wedge]

there we go thats more like it

[flat tiger]

blackhole + fool is... 2 levels yeah its all hands but its not like you can even use all hands

[compact niche]

it gave baseball card the chips

[compact gazelle]

soul appears in arcanas
and on the black hole topic we probably dont want it to be copiable

[compact niche]

so - sell the scary face now i guess?

[compact gazelle]

what im saying is that by your "black hole appears in celestials make it a planet too" soul would also scale teller

[frank grove]

again if you could fool the blackhole/soul you can copy it with perkeo and also get more fools to get more of them

[flat tiger]

you get infinitely more levels from blue seals then "ph no fool can copy teh blackhole"

[frank grove]

both of which are very op imo

[compact gazelle]

black hole is never a planet card

[flat tiger]

which is why I am saying it should be

[frank grove]

for what

just for const scaling and satelite

[broken abyss]

No it shouldn't, that would make it copiable. Which is terrible.

[flat tiger]

constealltion

[mortal nimbus]

God forbid someone needs to actually make a choice in a roguelike

[compact niche]

ok yeah this run is over. Thank you everyone for the help

[frank grove]

also yeah if it did act like a planet then a fool would be +2.4x for 6/9/11 dollars thats INSANE dude

[compact gazelle]

constellation (and satellite) scaling are the only things in the game preventing black hole in celestials from always always being the 100% correct choice

[compact niche]

Oops all 6s literally saved the day

[compact gazelle]

which is maybe problematic?

[long pendant]

oh... ok i guess

[compact gazelle]

hey look two red dudes

[flat tiger]

and a purple dude

[frank grove]

also this is what soul used to be before spectrals were added

[broken abyss]

And THAT's why Soul shouldn't be a Tarot again, and the same for Black Hole and Planet.

[flat tiger]

you fool a black hole, its one level

[granite ridge]

and why it ourple😂

[frank grove]

its 1.2x scaling on const actually

thats a big amount of scaling for 3 dollars to buy a fool

[compact gazelle]

so
if you had perkeo copying em
and made a bunch of souls
and used em with all 5 legendaries

what would souls default pull be

joker?

[flat tiger]

in the very off chance of you getting a super rare black hole you get yourself a good run? like getting yorick or casnio and stuff?

[broken abyss]

Yes, in the days that Soul was a Tarot and people pulled this off, that's exactly correct. Soul would pull the original Jimbo.

Even now if you somehow manage 5 souls in a run

[compact gazelle]

lmfao
the true most legendary joker himself

[broken abyss]

that is still the case.

Soul still pulls Jimbo now if you somehow have all 5 legendaries on board.

[deep copper]

can idol target stone or wild cards?

[slow iris]

wild

not stone

[flat tiger]

the super rare balck hole card appears you can get a busted OP run, sounds like many of the runs when I get a super rare legendary soul card

[deep copper]

thanks!

[broken abyss]

But it just pulls the base suit of said wild card, not a random of the 4 suits

iirc

[slow iris]

yeah

[compact gazelle]

all stone will make it pick ace of spades

[frank grove]

the thing is legendaries and black holes arent super duper rare

[cedar sable]

royal flush the discard

discard royal flush the

idk

my phone's going to die and I'm outside

19%

[flat tiger]

rare enough that its not even bad to have a good run once in a while, and you also need the fool to happen right after or you stop using any other planet/tarot unti lthe fool appear, jsut to get 1 level on each hand, that you are mainly still using 1-2 hands

[slow iris]

is your battery that bad

[compact gazelle]

the problem i think is that the reward for this is equivalent to a much rarer highroll

[cedar sable]

yes

this is like

6 year old phone

[frank grove]

like 1/12 of my runs i see a soul/black hole, i think black hole should just be less rare not be 1.2x scaling for const per black hole/fool used

[cedar sable]

[slow iris]

oh

[cedar sable]

so yeah it is that bad

buskin and sock

[flat tiger]

not able to use tarot or planets if you want it for what? unti la fool appears for ONE level?

[cedar sable]

buskin sock and

oh

that's uhhh

very bad mb

[frank grove]

and +1.2x scaling with const, const is already a very very great joker, adding black hole to that is insane imo

[flat tiger]

so you get the perfect combo of black hole appearing when you happen to have consteallation, for 1.2X, when you can discard some cards for more mult with yorick?

[compact gazelle]

its a bit too easy to accomplish compared to other combinations that yield the same

[frank grove]

again im saying black hole should show up more often, not be as strong or sometimes stronger than a lengendary joker lmao

[flat tiger]

getting a perfect combo of not even common stuff that is X1.2 is not even that crazy?

[frank grove]

const is something you pick up anyway

[flat tiger]

THEN you need to black hole to also appear in the same run

an IF that happens you get 1.2

[frank grove]

yeah, why do you want black hole to be the same as yorick thats silly

you can get more than one fool in an ante

[flat tiger]

i just dont see how it becomes busted when it is more rare then say midas vamp combo and perfect combos like these

[cedar sable]

17% now

yeah I'm cooked

under an hour of usage left

[slow iris]

black hole being a bit more common would be cool maybe

[flat tiger]

all hand +1 level is not even that great to begin with

you are not using all hands

[frank grove]

idk how you dont see how being able to get +1.2x scaling from every single fool you get as being busted. you can get fools from purple seals, all forms of tarot gen jokers and shops, i dont see why black hole has to be that good just make it show up like 3 times more often

[compact gazelle]

hence why argil says it should be made more common

[crisp perch]

Never been more happy to c a chicot 🥺 just rerolled plant into the mouth when I had 2 acrobats with flush five jacks

[flat tiger]

so you stop using any planet and tarot the entire run and only roll for fool? sounds like a good enough trade off to me

[frank grove]

well you would only need to find a couple fools and youve got enough x mult for most runs

[flat tiger]

yeah, same with all those legendary jokers, you get them you won the run, if you find this specific perfect combo you get a easy run, big deal

[broken abyss]

"you get a legendary joker you won the run"
so clueless lmfao

[frank grove]

its just a silly way to make black hole better

just make it show up more thats it

it doesnt have to be as good as a legendary joker lmao

[flat tiger]

and specifically having to find fool is not even easy, and thats only 1.2X per fool, and turns off all otehr tarot and planets

black hole is rare enough and not only that you need specifically constellation on this supposedly busted suituation

and all that for 1.2X IF and only if you find fools

you already get 0.75 by breaking one glass with glass joker

[frank grove]

which requires, making glass or getting glass and then breaking it

i think black hole should just be more common

[flat tiger]

yeah which is infinitely easier then getting a black hole when you already have constellation

and then you ahve to specifically find only fool in your run

[frank grove]

getting black holes is more common wehn you already have const since you're opening more celest packs than usual for x mult scaling

[flat tiger]

how many games you even find more then one black hole? every 50 runs? maybe 100?

not able to use any planet and tarot is also a really big deal

[frank grove]

again why does it need to have this interaction when it could instead just show up more often

[crisp perch]

Why didn’t I get the achievement?

[flat tiger]

because rare cases of fun combos is more fun then "here have +1 level on all hands while you are only using 2 hands"

[compact gazelle]

so you wanna make it a billion times more volatile in how good it is
and keep it as rare as it is right now
instead of making it more appropriately common for its existing power level

[frank grove]

sometimes you have to play an extra run to have achievements work - but you can do it on any stake

[crisp perch]

K I’ll try that

[fringe nebula]

gold stake ahh

[zinc sigil]

Got it

[flat tiger]

its not even that crazy, even if you somehow get blackhole after constellation, you are still only getting 1.2X per fool, it is a lot easier to just have some glass and break then with hangman or just playing them, all while turning off all planets and tarot cards

[frank grove]

sure, but idk i dont think const needs to be better than it already is

[compact gazelle]

ok and remind me
this is relevant how

[crisp perch]

Do I have to win it?

[frank grove]

yes

[crisp perch]

Oh 😭

[frank grove]

just do a white plasma run

and it should register

[zinc sigil]

Any of these good

[flat tiger]

because the discussion is about if this is actually busted, which I dont see how it is, when you ahve way easier ways to get 1.2X without forfitting every planet/tarot use for the rest of the run

[compact gazelle]

that first one is
second one is all right but a lot of people hate it cause its finicky and not the most consistent

[zinc sigil]

The 7 of clubs one

Ait

[compact gazelle]

so you still havent explained why do we want to make black hole
a legendary consumable
fluctuate between so-so like it is right now and obscenely powerful in 1.5 contexts

[frank grove]

not for the rest of the run, only a couple fools after the first black hole used would be enough for almost every run

[flat tiger]

3 fools is 3.6.... you get like 4-5 or even 6-7 on many scaling jokers, let alone legendaries

[frank grove]

4.6x cause const starts at 1

its +3.6x thats enough for a lot of gs runs

[compact gazelle]

3 fools puts you on par with an entire run of scaling this is totally fine

[broken abyss]

GGs! My first Blue Stake win turns into my first ever E-hitting run which also goes to e22 and Ante 17 (both are PBs)

[flat tiger]

i get 5X almost every time I get vampire, like 4.6 is not even crazy, and its again, on a uncommon on top of a legendary-rare black hole into multiple fool rolls

[compact gazelle]

compared to how good black hole is without stella

[humble gulch]

Free win

[frank grove]

you can continue scaling const, so with 2 fools after a blackhole you can still use tarots and planets and still scale other stuff at the same time and that doenst feel strong or busted in anyway? i dont understand why black hole should have a ceiling as high as yorick 😭

[flat tiger]

yorick is good just by getting yorick, this specific combo need multiple combinations and one of them is already as rare as soul

and it is not even as good as yorick

[frank grove]

its better if you can find more than one fool an ante

[flat tiger]

no, it only BEGINS if you find constellation into black hole, it cant even happen if you get black hole first

[coral pulsar]

No your wrong

[flat tiger]

sure you find balck hole, I am not using any planet or tarot unti lI find constellation, and continue to not use any until I get multiple fools

[frank grove]

if you find a blackhole before getting const in your redesigned black hole then you can still find a fool and just hold a blackhole for a while

[coral pulsar]

Wrong

[frank grove]

the problem is that you can still use tarots and planets as long as you use the fool on the blackhole first

and then just hold the blackhole until you find another fool

and again this is not busted how?

[flat tiger]

which are all opportunity cost just hoping a non perishable constellation appear

[frank grove]

const cant be perishable

[flat tiger]

you do all that for 3-4 fool uses and if you get hologram and blackboard alike, you are just throwing

[frank grove]

Im not saying that everytime you get a black hole you would do this, but its something you can do and i dont think it adds anything to the game, it just makes an already really good x mult scaler even better for no real reason

[warm wedge]

hey any tips on getting souls, feel really unlucky, only gotten 8 souls in my 3 days of playing so far 🙁

[frank grove]

thats pretty decent depending on how many runs you did over 3 days, but just open as many arcanas when you can

whilst staying above interest

[warm wedge]

hmm well started runs, aobut maybe 50?

but like ante 8 runs, like 4 🙁

[frank grove]

yeah you'll see more the more runs you do that go further and the more arcana packs you open, have you seen all of them already?

[humble gulch]

An early black hole is pretty good

[frank grove]

yeah i think black hole is already fine, it is a little rarer than its ability is but its so silly to say it should act as 12 planet cards at once

[zinc sigil]

This one is super cool actually

[spiral star]

I am cooking up something weird and I can't do math. Is it worth it to keep the planet stuff? I do have a blue steel. Should I hieroglyph?

[zinc sigil]

How much mult is stencil giving

[frank grove]

whats satelite on

[zinc sigil]

2x each?

[spiral star]

Each stensil is giving x3, sat is on $3, constellation is 1.6

[zinc sigil]

Sat is basically useless

[frank grove]

sat is tough on nebula

[spiral star]

I was suprised, but yeah other stensiles don't count towards any stensil

[knotty zodiac]

the downsides are plenty. idk what the upsides are, no idea what this is trying to improve

[zinc sigil]

What is nebula

Oh its a deck

LMAO

Is it the telescope deck

[spiral star]

Yea

[zinc sigil]

Thats shit sounded so boring to me

[frank grove]

originally it was to make it instantly activate 12 dollar satelite but const exists so ... its a little strong if blackhole acted like a planet card and could be fooled

[broken abyss]

If I have two Ancients (from Showman) are they always on the same suit?

[zinc sigil]

The art is nice tho

[spiral star]

Okay how do I not fuck this up tho? am I just gonna pump planet cards to get my pair up? Do I need to be rerolling for something?

[knotty zodiac]

ah the satellite interaction is somewhat interesting. but ya const would be broken

[zinc sigil]

Well u should take other planets to scale ur sat

So u get more money

Get it

[waxen fable]

good joker

[knotty zodiac]

do feel like black hole needs an improvement though. it's rare, it should often be better than immo and trance

[zinc sigil]

Yuh I bet its strong early

[frank grove]

i think it should just show up more often

[zinc sigil]

Good for gs runs

Free 2x

[waxen fable]

strong late too

its balanced

[zinc sigil]

Yea I like it

Has anyone done the challenges

[waxen fable]

game is so cooked the only consistent build is pair lobotomite

[knotty zodiac]

challenges are fun

[zinc sigil]

Bro the omelette is so hard

[knotty zodiac]

wut

[zinc sigil]

And its the first challenge

[waxen fable]

that one's alright

[frank grove]

ive done all the challenges twice and ive done a few of them more than 10 times probably

[waxen fable]

the worst challenge is golden needle..... oohhh the horrors

[zinc sigil]

I dont wanna know how the rest goes lmao

[frank grove]

blast off is also annoying

[knotty zodiac]

there's two obby challenges. you've mastered that ofc

[waxen fable]

jokerless is at least fun

golden needle..... the horrors....

[frank grove]

jokerless is fun cause big hands, annoying cause temperance in the first three shops 😭

[zinc sigil]

Right…

U think I need this still

Sure right

Cause the egg doesnt do too much

[knotty zodiac]

ya rebate > egg

[frank grove]

yeah

[knotty zodiac]

but where's your scoring

[frank grove]

saturn levels im guessing

[worn drum]

There is a swashbucker in the shop

[knotty zodiac]

stuntman

[worn drum]

I think stuntman is still correct

But the other would be funny

[knotty zodiac]

you can try this seeded on gold after the run

[worn drum]

Stuntman and do a high card run ig

[knotty zodiac]

on gold the egg could work

yellow**

[worn drum]

Ah

Time for high card spam

[zinc sigil]

Yea

[humble gulch]

I love blast off

[frank grove]

that makes sense

[humble gulch]

What do you mean...

[weak relic]

Hex stuntman and play highcardslop

[frank grove]

you're sticker maxxing master so you play with only 2 slots for scoring anyway, tbf i think blast off is fine just annoying cause the hand and discard count

[humble gulch]

I also love bram power

Bram power is so fun

Best challlenge

[frank grove]

bram poker is amazing

[weak relic]

I got lucky with it. Carp sharp in judgment

Card*

[humble gulch]

Brain power

🗣️

[weak relic]

Hmm

Cruelty also not that bad

[frank grove]

no its just red stake 2

[humble gulch]

Cruelty is easy

[weak relic]

Yeah because it's set on

[zinc sigil]

Omelette challenge obby here ?

Idk

Not having any econ makes this so hard

[knotty zodiac]

the obelisk, it follows you

[zinc sigil]

YES MAN

UD THINK ITS RARE

[weak relic]

I forgot how I beat omelette

But I remember selling all the eggs because

[zinc sigil]

U think I can obby?

[knotty zodiac]

ofc you're a pro now

[zinc sigil]

Spam pairs play stm with high card

Idk

[weak relic]

Why stm on photoslop?

Oh wait

[zinc sigil]

I just took what I got

[weak relic]

Its on ante 3

[humble gulch]

Who needs those joker slots anyways

[weak relic]

Keep going then

[zinc sigil]

Well do I take obby I got smiley face from arcana

I hate obelisk its so stressful

[zinc sigil]

Man always flexin on us

[humble gulch]

Yes

[zinc sigil]

And what do I take it for

[knotty zodiac]

replaces photo i think. you can set it up without committing yet

[zinc sigil]

Maybe replace stm?

I need shoot the moon to survive dont I

[weak relic]

So true

[knotty zodiac]

maybe you're fine playing face pairs replacing stm?

[zinc sigil]

You are both evil

[weak relic]

And yes, that's me

[zinc sigil]

Hmmm

Yea

[knotty zodiac]

only 19 mult rn though

[flat tiger]

can you buy dagger food or will madness kill first or it depends on which is on the left

[knotty zodiac]

vs stm at 2 queens plus base is 28

[weak relic]

The latter. The dagger just eats the joker then madness scales as usual

[knotty zodiac]

gold deck moments

no need to wait for credit card

[flat tiger]

i take no question asked

[weak relic]

Hey guys I think this rock is evil

[humble gulch]

Arrowhead when

[cedar sable]

getting ready

[knotty zodiac]

so it begins

[median grove]

is it redundant to hav suprnova and green joker

[weak relic]

Once you're in, you'll never leave

[median grove]

on orange

[flat tiger]

no at the begining, you can ditch one of them later as you go along

[median grove]

the nova is eternal, so which is better?

[weak relic]

Are one of them at least eternal?

[median grove]

nova or green joker?

yeah

[weak relic]

Hmm

[median grove]

im on ante 2

i feel like green joker must scale faster, no?

how could nova be better in any way

[flat tiger]

green is extra safety, if you find multiple Xmult you can ditch green, if you dont double +mult is still good

[knotty zodiac]

where were these runs yesterday then i was tilted af

[median grove]

but im saying isnt nova just a worse green

[fringe nebula]

yes

[flat tiger]

not really you can dig for blue seals without getting punished

[median grove]

because at most you can get equal scaling to green, but probably less

[fringe nebula]

depends

nova probably better when you have blue seal

[median grove]

but blue seals would benefit green too on a pair build

how?

[fringe nebula]

but green can be better if you're facing the eye

[flat tiger]

you lose 1 mult each time you discard, so you lose blueseal/gold card value

[median grove]

if i have five hands, i can get +5 mult every ante with green, and if i have nova, i can maybe get 5 pairs, but i might only get 3 or 4, especially if i sore highly

[rich flame]

Is there a way to see the seed of the last game you played ?

[median grove]

so long term is nova better? and then ditch the green

for a pair build

[flat tiger]

you dont get to play 5 hands, if you do you are likely to be really close to dying

[median grove]

because nova is eternal

[median grove]

well i am playing 5 hands specifically to scale green

[knotty zodiac]

ya i would pick green over nova all else being equal except in a few very specific cases

[median grove]

so shoul di not tak th enova? its eternal

[knotty zodiac]

your choice is take one or take both? depends on money but i wouldnt sweat one eternal

[median grove]

i have green, and the nova is eternal, so im wondering if i should take it and eventually ditch the green, or just skip the nova entirelly

but im also on orange so both is probably better

basially im wondering if its worth skipping an eternal nova

if green + nova is redundant

[zinc sigil]

Do I swap reserve, no right

[median grove]

but i guess not because i can always ditch the gren

[weak relic]

Keep them for now. Focus on scoring until you find some xmults or chip jokers

[median grove]

kp both?

[flat tiger]

you are still doubling your +mult scaling when you play pair, and you may or may not get multiple Xmult, so I would take both if I can

[median grove]

ioky thanks

[knotty zodiac]

ya id probably take both unless youre broke

[flat tiger]

you already KNOW you get +2 mult on every pair played, you dont know if you will even get any Xmult

[zinc sigil]

Rough gem or Reserved whats better chat

[flat tiger]

i take rough gem if its early and i am still flushing

[zinc sigil]

Here

Reserved better no

[weak relic]

Yeah take it

Since you're using stm

[flat tiger]

i take 1 in 1 over 1 in 2 if I get to choose

[median grove]

is immolate good with a pair build? or not really?

[spark kernel]

Thats just painful

[weak relic]

Yes

[flat tiger]

pair build = use immolate every time, almost every time

[weak relic]

Free $20

[median grove]

oky

[weak relic]

And possibly weeding out useless cards

[flat tiger]

if you are flushing then you may not want to kill 5 suit you want

but pairs you are fine, maybe except you draw 4 blue seals

[zinc sigil]

How do I obby max

Do I get rid of smiley face and chad

And look for other stuff

Idk

[knotty zodiac]

🙁

[spark kernel]

I hate zodiac deck purple stake

[weak relic]

You'll hate black deck gold stake more

[flat tiger]

i dont, i hate painted and plasma infinitly more then black

[knotty zodiac]

mm zodiac is pretty good though. you'll get it next time

[cedar sable]

THE CLOWN SHOW

[flat tiger]

when I play Nebula Deck I always draw multiple blue seals, I am sadge

[frank grove]

brain powered it up

[fringe nebula]

when I play nebula, I always use emperor/empress out of habit

[humble gulch]

She coated

[flat tiger]

that too, like telescope is... not exactly worth the -1 consumable TBH

[vocal rose]

I love nebula deck

[zinc sigil]

Did it

5,4 obby

Was enough I guess

Omlette isnt so bad when u get a single econ joker