🕹・game-discussion

[deep copper]

in the end, id have idol/trib and sock/hack and just copy jokers right

after i probably sell ticket

[upper hawk]

should i sell rebate for burglar

[deep copper]

awkay thanks

[pallid galleon]

why do you need a burglar

[upper hawk]

serpent for higher score

[deep copper]

with 115 cryptids you def have enough to naneinf

[pallid galleon]

you have perkeo theres no point

[upper hawk]

K

i should only sell rebate for showman and invis then?

[vocal rose]

I mean whats your goal

you can naneinf right now

[upper hawk]

ante 39

[vocal rose]

idk what tf mod that is but if its ghost + plasma together

I think you can shut your brain off and reach it with ease

[upper hawk]

card sleeves

do i need any cryptids?

[pallid galleon]

test it ig

[upper hawk]

yeah i do

1 cryptid gets me to 52

[bold gyro]

Anyone?

[pallid galleon]

sell egg

you have gift card

[upper hawk]

is one more ecto worth? or is -2 hand size too detrimental

[pallid galleon]

im ngl maybe just take the next burglar you see and go ante 39

[upper hawk]

rebate for showman?

@pallid galleon

[pallid galleon]

eh you kinda broke

[toxic lichen]

Wtf I didn’t know riff raff could make negatives

[echo owl]

Revised Balatro tier list (ante 8 gold stake)

[bold gyro]

Can someone explain this joker and is it worth buying for my 10-4 build?

[upper hawk]

no

[dire sage]

basically when you discard cards, the cards you've selected form a hand like high card or pair or straight

when you discard with that joker, it upgrades the level of that hand on FIRST DISCARD only

[upper hawk]

for first discard only btw

[bold gyro]

oh

that seems very situational

but good

[upper hawk]

should i buy burglas or do i need more money

you shouldnt get it

[bold gyro]

Also I rerolled smaeared joker should I sell foil gift for it?

[echo owl]

It’s super good with high card and pair and ok with everything else

[bold gyro]

smeared would make poly wrathful better

[dire sage]

what's ur current boss blind

[bold gyro]

the arm

70K

buy it or keep rerolling?

foil gift selling for 17

I'm kind of plateauing around 80 ish K for this build so far

[upper hawk]

is this black deck?

[turbid nova]

the jimbo disrespect

smh

[bold gyro]

yes

smeared seems good with wrathful but I think rerolling is better for some chrome or poly joker

[upper hawk]

burglar or rebate better?

[upper hawk]

chrome?

[bold gyro]

polychrome

so keep rerolling and skip smeared?

[upper hawk]

polychrome or polychrome aah yes

[pallid galleon]

i think the right line is to keep making money until you get showman and find another copy joker and then replace perkeo with burglar but i really don't know if any of this matters

[upper hawk]

i got showman earlier and nobody responed

[pallid galleon]

i think you didn't have enough money to look for a copy joker

[upper hawk]

k so still keep what i have

[pallid galleon]

honestly just don't over think it you probably don't need to do anything until you actually start using more cryptids than you gain

[upper hawk]

k

[bold gyro]

showman? copy?

I am still new lol

unless you didn't mean me

[upper hawk]

showman allows for joker repeats to show

[bold gyro]

but yeah how do I get higher score with this build

[upper hawk]

copy mean blueprint and brainstorm

[pallid galleon]

reroll and find better jokers

[upper hawk]

which copy joker abilities

[bold gyro]

Pirate joker worth buying?

if not I'll save my money and try this 70K arm boss

[turbid nova]

I mean it's a better abstract right

[bold gyro]

abstract?

also is that a yes?

[turbid nova]

yeah

[bold gyro]

and if so what do I sell foil gift?

[pallid galleon]

no

[turbid nova]

if you keep gift swash's value keeps rising

[bold gyro]

it is at +81 mult as you see

but then what do I sell?

[pallid galleon]

do you have any planet levels

[turbid nova]

abstract I'd say

[pallid galleon]

abstract or golden joker

[bold gyro]

oh wow I'm so dumb

forgot abstract has no bonus

just +18

pirate joker way better

LOL

[turbid nova]

yeah it's just how many jokers u have

[waxen fable]

more mult than abstract

[bold gyro]

ok good thanks

wish me luck on boss lol

[coarse dew]

try and get rid of golden joker eventually

[bold gyro]

oh right I plan on it before boss of ante 8

oh wow 5 of a kind

walkie talkie is one of the most fun jokers I found so far

not hard to build around but not super easy either

very well designed joker

[turbid nova]

walkie is a good early game carry imo

[bold gyro]

OHHHHHHHH

shop has card sharp

take it?

sell golden?

[zinc sigil]

What do I do in this spot

[flat tiger]

you are ante 7, just sell them and get scoring

unless you plan to go on in endless, you dont need to greed

[bold gyro]

Any of these worth taking over card sharp?

I am guessing no

[zinc sigil]

You dont even have card sharp

[bold gyro]

it's in shop

so do I skip these and buy it?

[zinc sigil]

What are u selling for it

[upper hawk]

if only i went for plutos

[zinc sigil]

Whatever ur selling sell it now take one of these jokers and sell it aswell for card sharp

[upper hawk]

is it still worth

[zinc sigil]

So u minmax the money

[bold gyro]

golden

don't need it since am on ante 8

[zinc sigil]

Do u understand what im saying

[bold gyro]

yes going to sell golden now then take the polychrome fist as it is prob the highest value

then sell that too

and vuy sharp

[shell dagger]

holo fist and fib are the same value

ofc it doesn’t matter here but just so u know

[upper hawk]

should i use ecto? its just one extra cryptid?

[shell dagger]

you could ig

were you always using sleeves?

[upper hawk]

yeah

[bold gyro]

whats fib?

[shell dagger]

fibonacci

[bold gyro]

OHHH fibbonacci is this undiscovered one

the one yall always hyping up

[shell dagger]

it’s unnecessary for ante 39 id just skip

[upper hawk]

but like is it cool

[shell dagger]

yes

[upper hawk]

would it still allow me to get ante 39

[shell dagger]

yes

[upper hawk]

k

im doin it

gamba paid off

nvm

my game bugged and rerolled even though i clicked the dna

still paid off i got burg

[echo owl]

im sorry jimbo

[knotty zodiac]

"here win"

[bold gyro]

if I use the world on a multi card will the multi effect go away?

[knotty zodiac]

no

[bold gyro]

so 10 of hearts mult with world will become 10 of spade mult?

[knotty zodiac]

enhancements/suits/ranks/seals/editions are all independent (besides stone covering rank and suit)

[bold gyro]

and that applies to lucky cards too?

don't want to lose my lucky 10 4 cards

[pallid galleon]

rip to do list gold sticker

[knotty zodiac]

im victim blaming todolist

it was on flush

aint nobody got time for that

[bold gyro]

at ante 8 and see ice cream...so sell foil gift card to buy it right?

[shell dagger]

i carried tdl till ante 6 in my last run

[bold gyro]

since ice cream won't deteriorate

[shell dagger]

not with swash

[bold gyro]

why

OHH

[shell dagger]

gift card has accumulated a lot of sell value on itself

[bold gyro]

sell value tied to it's mult

damn

ok well got bid blind then 300K ante 8 boss

I struggle to get 100+K

what am I looking for in shop reroll?

[knotty zodiac]

if you have low planet level it might still be worth getting ice cream

[bold gyro]

with 10 4 pair 2 pair build

[shell dagger]

better xmult than those 2 polychromes

[bold gyro]

that is what acrobat is for

so buy ice cream or reroll?

[pallid galleon]

anything that gives more than 1.5x mult is better than your polychromes

[bold gyro]

ok so ignore chips the foil gift is enough?

and look for better xmult in reroll?

[pallid galleon]

p much

whats the boss blind

[bold gyro]

300K violet vessel

[pallid galleon]

ur probably chillin

[upper hawk]

burg or parking for showman?

[knotty zodiac]

whats swash at

[pallid galleon]

don't need to specifically play 10s and 4s

[bold gyro]

fuck I selected boss with $74 left in bank

=/

[pallid galleon]

just play any kind of 2 pair

[bold gyro]

swash at +72

yeah but I buffed all my 10's and 4's to lucky or mult

[knotty zodiac]

youre fine

[bold gyro]

and bought more 10's and 4's

[upper hawk]

anybody

[knotty zodiac]

make sure to setup a hand for card sharp and then play a mega version of it on acrobat

itll have like 1600 mult. np

[pallid galleon]

nah

[upper hawk]

rly? not even burglar?

[pallid galleon]

you could make more money

[upper hawk]

i dont wanna risk not seeing a showman

[pallid galleon]

ur econ game kinda weak

[upper hawk]

also im still making money with parking

• rebate is better and common

[pallid galleon]

with perkeo you don't ever need to make steel cards lol

thats your big mistake

[upper hawk]

?

how come

[pallid galleon]

wait do you have retcon

[upper hawk]

no

[pallid galleon]

hmm bummer

[upper hawk]

yeh

i wish

i ha

d

[bold gyro]

fucked up played a full house instead of 2 pair

[pallid galleon]

without gold cards you miss out on a lot of econ

[bold gyro]

but still won the boss by 3K

lol

[pallid galleon]

nice

[bold gyro]

unlocked checkered deck

ghost deck still by far the best I unlocked so far

oh wait

[upper hawk]

wait so since no retcon do i still not sell burg?

[bold gyro]

wow checkered sounds great for flush builds

[knotty zodiac]

checkered flushes go brrr

[upper hawk]

checkerd is nice especially for bloodstone

[pallid galleon]

nah you can sell burg

[bold gyro]

bloodstone?

[upper hawk]

k

[bold gyro]

I won like 6 runs so far

still new

lol

[upper hawk]

its a joker than is x1.5 1 in 2 for every heart card

[bold gyro]

maybe 20 ish hours of game time in the month I had this game

love this game

had no idea I could enjoy a turn based deck builder

I never play this genre

[pallid galleon]

its addicting

[bold gyro]

no interest since mass effect 1

turn based games just got boring to me

[upper hawk]

this guy

[bold gyro]

tried slay the spire a month ago played 5 hours it was okay but I prob won't touch it again

Balatro tho I can see myself playing on and off for years

[pallid galleon]

creeper do you have directors cut at least

[upper hawk]

yeah

[knotty zodiac]

turn based is cool if there are engaging decisions. balatro and sts both nailed it, balatro is much easier to pick up and go

[upper hawk]

do i take dna?

[crisp perch]

Do I take the mime playing card is at x2

[pallid galleon]

no

[upper hawk]

k

[pallid galleon]

not over playing card

i mean hologram

[crisp perch]

Do I take it over something else?

[pallid galleon]

you could take it over rocket but idk how much you are really able to use reversed parking

[crisp perch]

Rocket is at 7

Got a lot of gold

It prob makes more ngl n is more scoring 🤔

[pallid galleon]

what hands are you playing

[crisp perch]

High card

[pallid galleon]

oh then you can take mime

[crisp perch]

Just using fist

For my score

I still haven’t gotten a gold stake win with mime how 😭

[upper hawk]

do i need one more cryptid?

[crisp perch]

Isn’t it like 50 for naninf

[upper hawk]

bro im going for ante 39 not naneinf

[crisp perch]

Gotcha

[pallid galleon]

according to my calculations its enough its up to you to risk it

[drowsy torrent]

there's calculator mods and also i think a website

idk the site :(

[upper hawk]

oh yeah i should go to that site

[pallid galleon]

atp im selling blueprints and brainstorms for double cola value

[upper hawk]

is dice for showman worth?

or is it dumb

[pallid galleon]

i think rebate makes more money

[upper hawk]

k i rerolles

[wild lagoon]

i just don’t understand

[upper hawk]

for reserved

most useful tarot card

like literally any other joker from the showman would be good.

dna or go for another copy

[pallid galleon]

you dont need dna for anything

[upper hawk]

k

[pallid galleon]

other than to save 2 cryptids

[upper hawk]

do i take this or go for copies?

[shell dagger]

copies

[upper hawk]

k

5 rerolls lmao

assuming showman?

[crisp perch]

I’ve just been using two jokers this entire time what is happening 😭

Literally finally got something usable

[upper hawk]

brotato chip WHAT is that ride the bus on

[echo sphinx]

john balatro build

[shell dagger]

rebate if you wanna be cool

[echo sphinx]

scoring starting to look a bit sus ngl

[crisp perch]

I don’t know man how I’m winning still 😭

54 bus 320 wee

[upper hawk]

wtf 54?

[flat tiger]

sus

[crisp perch]

FINALLY 😭

[upper hawk]

ok but do i get this?

[knotty zodiac]

320*54*4=69120

so almost no planet support needed lols

[crisp perch]

Still going 😭

[upper hawk]

why x4?

[knotty zodiac]

4 hands

[upper hawk]

oh

is it worth getting the mime now that that i have the 2nd plueprint?

[pallid galleon]

nah id probably pick up a rebate or something

[echo sphinx]

eh ig

[crisp perch]

Alright this is just ridiculous

[waxen fable]

no

rebate better yeah

id want more money for serpenting and burglar finding

[waxen fable]

bros on thin ice

[crisp perch]

536x67=35,912

[waxen fable]

ima pray u get an xmalt anytime soon

[knotty zodiac]

wow thanks foil riff raff

[waxen fable]

manifesting obelisk

[waxen fable]

tempy value

[upper hawk]

burglar for mime?

nvm

[crisp perch]

o7

ONE x mult would’ve been enough man 😭

I’m always taking wee tho everytime

Ts crazy

HOLY

U DONT GOTTA TELL ME TWICE

[waxen fable]

yes

[crisp perch]

The run is already 3x better 😭

[knotty zodiac]

LOL

[pallid galleon]

yaa

[eager prawn]

What does satellite even do?

[dire sage]

every time you finally buy and use a type of planet card, it adds to the money gain

so like if u use 3 mercuries through the run

it's 1 coin added

then u buy a venus and a jupiter and use them

and it becomes 3

so like the only card u bought and used is pluto

if you use another planet card in next shop, u gain 2 econ from the satellite

[worn drum]

THE HOOK DOESNT TRIGGER MATADOR?

Wtf I picked up an eternal matador thinking "oh good that's my econ solved"

[pallid galleon]

yeah its a scam

1.1 tho

[worn drum]

I'm so upset lmao

Ante 2 boss is the house

Fuck it new run

[upper hawk]

bro the 2 times i get the plant this run it rerolls into the goad (my entire deck is spades

[pale wolf]

balatrodular in 2 ||forks gonna love this||

[worn drum]

Holy shit

Unfortunately the correct answer is probably erosion

Dead to bad draw rip

[worn drum]

M2ZNKINE for anyone who wants it

[pallid galleon]

oh my sigma

this would go hard on black stake

[waxen fable]

son

[pallid galleon]

place your bets guys

[dire sage]

yorick

[echo sphinx]

rental hm

[digital pewter]

should i make one of those suggestion thread lists in #1155557846805643434

[echo sphinx]

if yellow then this sh op

[digital pewter]

been seeing a lotta people do those

[worn drum]

I didn't take the BP anyway

[prime valve]

Chico

[digital pewter]

aw man

[pallid galleon]

correct

[digital pewter]

i clicked on it without thinking and spoiled it for myself

[pallid galleon]

uh i think i made a mistake

run might be dead ngl

[echo sphinx]

what happened

[pallid galleon]

accidentally scored too much ig

[worn drum]

What game is that

[digital pewter]

negative scoring? wrap it up bro...

[echo sphinx]

wut

[worn drum]

That doesn't even look like the same game we're playing anymore

[echo sphinx]

ikr

[pallid galleon]

gg was a good run

i think imma install that mod that lets you score over naneinf

[severe cloak]

Guys I finally got a naneinf sorry if it's kinda blurry I barely could screenshot in time

[pallid galleon]

that do look right

[severe cloak]

Had an epileptic seizure halfway through the run but I could finally get naneinf

And with none other than John Balatro too

[severe cloak]

Please don't downplay my achievement 😦

[pallid galleon]

i think you are misconstruing my words though

well i think i pretty much reached the limits of vanilla balatro, i guess i could go try some mods now

which one do yall recommend

[severe cloak]

I thought you were being sarcastic

[pallid galleon]

oh no never

[echo sphinx]

i have 3 more rounds until i die

[knotty zodiac]

no dying allowed

[echo sphinx]

im living on borrowed time

@knotty zodiac thank u

i think i sell pants

[knotty zodiac]

manifested

[echo sphinx]

32 mult tho.

but is after Steel

[knotty zodiac]

maybe burnt depending on mercury lvl

[echo sphinx]

and my pair level not super high yet

[knotty zodiac]

is your photochad setup doing anything

[echo sphinx]

yes

its carrying the run

tho i can sell chad for blackboard :thonk:

[knotty zodiac]

8x on not super high pair level is somewhat dubious seeming

[echo sphinx]

i mean 7x is not super high if you ask me

[knotty zodiac]

since it's before pants

[echo sphinx]

even tho its the last color

i could sell chad

[knotty zodiac]

hm maybe i would sell photo

[echo sphinx]

or photo

[knotty zodiac]

chad is still good for econ

if you have gold seals

[echo sphinx]

got none

i got one blue seal that i just cant draw

[knotty zodiac]

manifesting cert

i do feel like photochad is the weak link here

[echo sphinx]

i see

ok selling both

lets go

[knotty zodiac]

so photochad gone

in comes blackboard

and

driver's license maybe?

[echo sphinx]

yay

[echo sphinx]

speculative

lets manifest

[knotty zodiac]

really like andy here

you gonna find your blue seal

[echo sphinx]

OK

OK BUDDYYYY

[knotty zodiac]

ooh

[echo sphinx]

WHAT IS THAT PULL

[knotty zodiac]

is ramen correct tho

[echo sphinx]

idk

i got lv10 planet now

[knotty zodiac]

have you seen eye yet

[echo sphinx]

yes

[knotty zodiac]

wb needle

[echo sphinx]

but not needle

fuck it i sell burnt

[knotty zodiac]

oh you take both?

stack that xmult

[echo sphinx]

MMMM

(i didnt proc blackboard damnit)

now all thats left is to find a sticker

[flat tiger]

you have card sharp ramen you are good

you can even sell rocket for sticker

[knotty zodiac]

not in the clear yet

[echo sphinx]

not yet autowin

[knotty zodiac]

hm

maybe this wins against needle alr?

[flat tiger]

now do negative skip for more chances

[echo sphinx]

lol

[knotty zodiac]

just need 110k onehand

you should be at ~240 mult with mercury pants blackboard ramen

hm ya maybe a bit more

[echo sphinx]

mmmmm

[flat tiger]

can do do jokerless challenge and get negative jokers

[echo sphinx]

no

[flat tiger]

from packs

[knotty zodiac]

challenges dont grant stickers

[echo sphinx]

in jokerless there is no jokers

[flat tiger]

both jokerless and vampire said "no joker in shop" but you get buffon pack in vampire, so I thought if I get negative from buffon I can take it with 0 slots

[flat tiger]

i am more mad it didnt give me the $400 unlock

[echo sphinx]

holy shit so many mercury in shop

suddenly i scoring a few hundred k

i really need a random joker to sticker

[knotty zodiac]

you have rocket

youll find sth

[flat tiger]

you maybe able to sell reman too

[knotty zodiac]

mm ya depends on ante8 boss

[echo sphinx]

thats a sticker

[flat tiger]

its gonna be VV

[echo sphinx]

fuck

that would have been so good to use

like as an actual carry

[echo sphinx]

vv is nothing

[flat tiger]

i think i had purple sticker on Hit the road

[echo sphinx]

how i get 15 planet levels lol

OWO

[knotty zodiac]

credit card in the buffoon pack 100th reroll

[echo sphinx]

not even close

now to check these two off

om

3 xmult

and two of them are stupid broken

and the other is good straightslop

[knotty zodiac]

damn breaking out the spreadsheet

[echo sphinx]

im gonna be honest i did not list out every jokre

i list out the ones i havent finished

(since i started tracking)

[knotty zodiac]

ig it doesnt matter if you only plan to do it once

[echo sphinx]

thats true

[zinc sigil]

I feel like my runs live and die by my discards and the amount of tarot cards im handed

but this game isnt really rng for the most part

it can be solved every time right?

so what is my missing piece to consistent wins

I dont get it

also I never get the planet levels I need

but there is no way I lack in all of that at the same time and dont compensate with something else

I either survive the first 3 antes and have good jokers but no econ or I have bad econ and die early

[digital pewter]

most of the time it comes down to econ management, yeah

[brave goblet]

Roffle ass run

[digital pewter]

the big thing is trying to keep up your interest

then also just peeking into tarot packs for hermits/temperence

a single hermit can kinda make or break the start of a run

[brave goblet]

You're probably overlooking something in the shop that can keep your money up, or some other kind of value generator

time for balatro university

[zinc sigil]

Like surely I take the runner now, but I already have 2 chip jokers and it fucks my econ

[brave goblet]

Is your deck still a basic deck

[digital pewter]

you simply don't take the runner

[zinc sigil]

Its my insurance to win the run no

[digital pewter]

you don't always need to be spending

[brave goblet]

not if you can't pick up anything else after

[knotty zodiac]

its probably okay to take both here?

[zinc sigil]

idk I wanna learn but I dont want to always have to ask play by play cause then im not playing

its kinda hard to learn

[knotty zodiac]

the cloud 9 will give you $4, the boss blind gives you $4, im not expecting much extra hand value

[formal oriole]

Do I take another ecto, or do I just sell a brainstorm for DNA/burgular?

[digital pewter]

yall know about #🕹・run-discussion right

just checking?

[zinc sigil]

nope

[digital pewter]

damn

[zinc sigil]

We all just do it here

😭

[knotty zodiac]

when im a good boy and i post to run-discussion i get very little engagement 🤷

so everything goes here

[brave goblet]

game discussion is for everything basically

ye

[zinc sigil]

how do you play madness with no eternals

you just dont right

[brave goblet]

You can

(first hope your madness isn't a rental otherwise it's way harder)

and you can keep temporary jokers, madness just eats one

[zinc sigil]

I have one in the shop on ghost deck

first shop

[brave goblet]

you can have the rest of your scoring come from planets

[zinc sigil]

ohhh

[brave goblet]

straights madness for instance

risk of dying to a bricked draw but it's part of life

[zinc sigil]

trying

[brave goblet]

Is the madness eternal

[zinc sigil]

no

[brave goblet]

sad

no ankh madness shenanigans

[zinc sigil]

right

[teal thunder]

lets go, 100% stickersss

[formal oriole]

Yo

Someone answer

[zinc sigil]

please?

[unreal topaz]

blue seals, glass and steel

maybe telescope

smth like straights

also like beating white through green stake jokerless is reasonable with that

madness would make it easier

[echo sphinx]

planets and tarotmaxxing

[pallid galleon]

guys im playing pokermon rn (and all the addons i could find) and its FIRE

[knotty zodiac]

ton of queens but holo order ahhh

campfire's probably good enough xmult tho

i shouldve listened to myself lmao

[urban light]

Round 1 shop, Yellow Deck Gold Stake. What's your pick? (I took the Rebate, since the shop didn't have anything good to copy w/ Brainstorm. Felt bad to leave behind but oh well)

[knotty zodiac]

rebate

not even a question

if it was foil brainstorm and perishable rebate, still the rebate

[unreal topaz]

easy rebate

it's just simply the best joker in the game

as a foil makes it a snap pick

[urban light]

Maybe if Chad didn't exist haha

[unreal topaz]

nah rebate takes the cake for me easily

[urban light]

I can't think of a time I've ever regretted picking up a Rebate, though. It always performs way better than I think it will

[unreal topaz]

chad is up there, esp in the realm of common jokers

[knotty zodiac]

rebate gets you all the other jokers you need

[unreal topaz]

but the number on rebate is just stupidly high

like

$5

[gaunt burrow]

fuck

[knotty zodiac]

big boi incoming

[unreal topaz]

glass card time

[cedar sable]

gl on violet

[noble mango]

anybody else genuinely doesn't count beyond the first 4 antes

[unreal topaz]

like, count your score? or what

idk i have blind requirements for gs ante 8 burned into my brain

and am always doing score estimates

[gaunt burrow]

i cant find one

but

[unreal topaz]

gl

[gaunt burrow]

I HATE PLASMA DECK

almost

[green apex]

isnt this how every throwback run is supposed to go

😭

[unreal topaz]

damn 😔

[green apex]

plasma+goldstake+vv

[unreal topaz]

coulda been sick

[green apex]

rough stuff

[ancient gyro]

someone didn't hit the 1550 chip/hand requirements

[unreal topaz]

why do chips when you can have the most sketch finish possible

with on scoring xmult and retriggers struggling

[shell dagger]

that’s for the one shot

[shell dagger]

chips don’t lie

they call me chakira

[ancient gyro]

1550 doesn't make me feel full

they call me by facetime

[naive frigate]

Holy moly 😭

[urban light]

what if instead of photochad it was called photokirk and instead of winning gold stake you died on ante 7

it's because i sold the rebate for the luchador ante 6 isn't it, that's what it was

https://klipy.com/gifs/american-dad-roger-smith-11

[knotty zodiac]

looks like you missed some draws? photochad can do that sometimes

[echo sphinx]

220 hands is diabolical

[echo sphinx]

mailed no question

[echo sphinx]

that idk

[naive frigate]

Am i genuinely fucking dreaming

[echo sphinx]

STICKERRR MMM

this wun is so ron

i greeded and lost

[knotty zodiac]

another day, another run crashed bc i accidentally played a straight flush with 4f

[safe flower]

The greatest to ever do it

[knotty zodiac]

waht else is new

[echo sphinx]

thoughts

[knotty zodiac]

foil

[echo sphinx]

mmmmmmm

[ancient gyro]

cool ranch

[safe flower]

Take foil

[echo sphinx]

bit suboptimal

thonk

i could take the banana

but splash is actually not terrible for once here

[shell dagger]

splash good with agate and wee

especially with burger

[echo sphinx]

fric

even harder choice

chad gone

forgor to read bossblind

my onyx run is die

what the FUCK game i almost DIED WITH STM

[knotty zodiac]

stm is unreliable early

im sad when its my only option

[echo sphinx]

WDYM I HAVE 14 CARDS LEFT

[unreal vine]

Random seed btw

[fiery nymph]

splash is heavily underrated

[unreal vine]

If u keep the showman is 2 perkeos the 2nd soul

But I would die

[brave fox]

Gonna be playing all day today, tired of using black deck I needs to get the gold stake

[alpine socket]

No

[echo sphinx]

its not underrated if its never good to begin with

[alpine socket]

The point of small hands is the held in hand abilities splashing them doesn't make any since

Since?

Sense

[echo sphinx]

mmmmmmmm

[unreal topaz]

the point of small hands is they're spammable

[knotty zodiac]

the tilt is real

[unreal topaz]

usually held in hand abilities don't contribute too much to high card/pair runs

steel doesnt do that much usually bc of the slow mult scaling

[knotty zodiac]

mime is good with blue seals

[unreal topaz]

also easy to make hand means you can greed more

[alpine socket]

If that was the context in which you're using them what does adding enchanted cards with splash add

That makes them harder to make

[unreal topaz]

not much, splash is usually pretty bad

[echo sphinx]

splash is only good in fringe cases

like onyx

wee scaling

and i have both

[knotty zodiac]

flower pot

[echo sphinx]

in that run with hanging chad

[unreal topaz]

thats the combo

2 joker slots for a blackboard

[echo sphinx]

dont forget to water your flowerpot

[unreal topaz]

fire

[knotty zodiac]

arrowhead if you have low planet level

[unreal topaz]

splash is best as a value generator

[knotty zodiac]

ya gold seals

[patent sail]

ive had a splashless flower pot run ts was so scuffed

especially since without flower pot id explode

[vague flint]

+525 chip stone joker

[safe flower]

Thank you midas mask

[unreal topaz]

lucky cards, some econ joker synergies

[vague flint]

how is hologram uncommon lmao

[knotty zodiac]

these type of runs are super fun... when you escape by a tiny margin

[naive frigate]

Is there an achievement for not playing a hand type and winning for every hand type?

[unreal topaz]

public transportation grinds to a halt at a splash of water sadly

[knotty zodiac]

i dont think there's a wining hand type achievement but there are joker unlocks for not playing a hand type

[patent sail]

theres 5 unlocks for beating a run without certain hand types played

but thats it

[naive frigate]

Yeah so achievements

[patent sail]

Pair, 3oak, 4oak, Flush and Straight

[naive frigate]

Damn no flush and no straight

[echo sphinx]

The Uno
unlock: dont play high card

1x

[calm furnace]

welp i cant stop winning with 3oak

[patent sail]

those arent really achivements

[naive frigate]

Ain't pullin those one's off

[patent sail]

pair spam

[naive frigate]

Im just generalising idk

[naive frigate]

No i'm too stupid sorry

[pale wolf]

they should replace tribe with a full house joker

[patent sail]

each will unlock Rare joker that gives XMult for that hand type

[pale wolf]

I guess to get some achievements you would have to unlock all the Jokers so sure

[unreal topaz]

so basically always play at least one flush so you never have to see the tribe

[naive frigate]

I shouldn't have skipped vro😭

[pale wolf]

and now you're dead as a dead knob

[patent sail]

why skip at all

fuck throwback

[naive frigate]

Cuz 2 free jokers with good modifiers

[unreal topaz]

not the double holo tag 😭

[patent sail]

holo isnt even that good

[naive frigate]

No it's foil and holo

[unreal topaz]

same issue

[pale wolf]

definitely not worth it

[patent sail]

90% of the time skips are gonna be worse than seeing a shop

[naive frigate]

Ok 😭

[pale wolf]

even if you did survive the boss

[naive frigate]

Finna prove y'all wrong

[calm furnace]

it straight up sucks

[unreal topaz]

especially with hologram and sixth sense

[naive frigate]

SKIPPED AND PROUD

[patent sail]

only time id ever take a skip for a joker tag thingy is like

ante 1 when i got nothing to do

[pale wolf]

it is white stake at least so the joker skips are a lot more viable than im used to but it's still not worth the loss of shops

[calm furnace]

4 skips to be as good as seeing double/duo/ramen is straight up ass

[naive frigate]

Got a dogshit card tho 💯

[patent sail]

what is it

[calm furnace]

the throwback nerf is one of the worst balance decisions ive seen in any game

[patent sail]

okay yup

thats ass

[pale wolf]

lmfao

[unreal topaz]

color me suprised

[naive frigate]

Ey atleast + 0.5x markiplier

[patent sail]

thats why you dont skip for those tags

you get garbage

negative tag, on the other hand....

[patent sail]

its still bad but

im a gamblepilled idiotmaxxer

and when i die to a negative skip i learn nothing 🗣🔥

[pale wolf]

negative garbage? 😀

[naive frigate]

I genuinely want to skip ts

[patent sail]

sign me up

[calm furnace]

proper gambling is living in debt and hoping to get handy/investment tag to fix your econ later

[patent sail]

might as well just full skip into the boss for throwback if you score 120k per hand

[unreal topaz]

good for the environment

[naive frigate]

Na the el bosso is 300k

[patent sail]

120 per hand

youre fine

[pale wolf]

antipollutants

[naive frigate]

It's 120 per lucky hand vro

[patent sail]

140 even

[naive frigate]

I had like a shit ton of modified cards and they're all face

So like im afraid

[patent sail]

what purpose is chad or sixth even serving there

chad is fine sure

but whats sixth doing

[unreal topaz]

after that run, try playing some runs where you don't skip at all and look at how many more choices you have

[calm furnace]

chad is goated wym

chad will trigger lucky cards

[naive frigate]

Ion fuckin know 😭

[patent sail]

yeah i thought of that

[unreal topaz]

chad is econ if nothing else

[patent sail]

replace his ass for scoring twin

[naive frigate]

Y'all just want me to be a know it all 😭

[patent sail]

well no but like

[naive frigate]

Yo ts lowk ass

[unreal topaz]

we want you to put thought into decisions

[naive frigate]

What is scoring

Like

More chips or mult

[patent sail]

anything that gives more score 😭😭😭

[unreal topaz]

a joker that gives you more points

[patent sail]

better than sixth

[naive frigate]

I think +1.5x mult should do the trick

[patent sail]

also 1.5x

[naive frigate]

And a planet pack for a good measure

[unreal topaz]

you have hologram

[naive frigate]

Wdym

I didn't have any normal cards pack

[unreal topaz]

most skips go wayyyyy down in value when you have hologram

[naive frigate]

It was either a planet or tarot

[unreal topaz]

bc you miss a shop

[patent sail]

YES

[naive frigate]

Oh yeah

[unreal topaz]

around 1 in every 2 shops has a standard pack

[patent sail]

Youre seeing much less packs

[naive frigate]

Damn

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[patent sail]

and holo has better scaling than throwback

[naive frigate]

My throwback has like 3.5x

Yeah...

[patent sail]

3.5 for skipping like entire game

[echo sphinx]

that 3.5x throwback could have been 5x hologram

[serene forge]

if you're a new player you should forget that the skip button exists

[naive frigate]

I got holo on like ante 6

[modest kayak]

I have; Gros Michel, holographic misprint, holographic scholar, photohraph, and Yorick,

I can buy Baron in shop, should I?

[patent sail]

i mean i also liked throwback when i started playing

[serene forge]

sometimes skipping is correct but you won't know that until you're more experienced

[unreal topaz]

if you skipped less you would make more money and reroll more to probably find 2 or 3 other different xmult jokers instead

[serene forge]

never buy baron

[knotty zodiac]

probably not

[patent sail]

why

[serene forge]

it sucks

your photograph there is also useless

[patent sail]

skipping isnt even bad because tags are bad (even though they are)

youre just missing payouts AND shops which is the worst part of them

[naive frigate]

I js got like 180k from a pair of queens

[echo sphinx]

what is even happening

[unreal topaz]

missing booster packs in general is just a big opportunity cost

[knotty zodiac]

balatro over the terminal

[serene forge]

Hi big nerd here time to run down some of the numbers of how much every single skip as a baseline loses out on to even be considered an option:
As an idea of just how much you lose per skip:

• Without vouchers or rerolling, the 2 shop slots is already $5 to see, let alone if you include the packs and voucher, or potentially rerolling
• Scaling from jokers
• Hand money (usually $3)
• Interest money (Hopefully $5)
  Idk man a butt ton of lost value for what is ultimately, something you already see on the shop 90% of the time, in the case of most to not say all skips

[patent sail]

told you youre fine

[naive frigate]

Fine i won't skip for my next run

[patent sail]

tbh ante 1 investment tag is instant take

but thats it

[naive frigate]

I GOTTA get a straight and flush ones

Is this deck good

[serene forge]

flush one sucks

straight one is pretty good

[serene forge]

yes

[patent sail]

play only straights run to get the flush one and only flushes to get straights one if you dont wanna do pairs

[unreal topaz]

quite, 12 less cards means you draw your good cards way more often

[echo sphinx]

pretty fun ye

[patent sail]

pretty damn good

one of the easiest to me

[modest kayak]

Ok thanks!

[modest kayak]

Ok thanks!

[naive frigate]

Do i do the black deck for a new deck or do i try the abandoned one to get the no straight card

[modest kayak]

I see the pros buy Baron all the time

[patent sail]

youll like what black deck win unlocks

[unreal topaz]

which pros exactly?

[patent sail]

step 1

stop watching roffle

[naive frigate]

Is it skips give 2 tags instead of one deck

[patent sail]

no

[unreal topaz]

in the context of winning a run committing to baron is generally a horrendous idea

[patent sail]

flushes deck

[unreal topaz]

bc it takes so many resources to work

[naive frigate]

Aaand first game and i already folded on the foil tag

This is the last skip i swear

[patent sail]

always take baron 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[patent sail]

accidentally rerolled mime same run but still won

[naive frigate]

Is the game moded

[patent sail]

game keeps giving me baron and i keep getting away with it

[unreal topaz]

that's one of the worst ones... seeing more jokers is generally better than a random edition

[patent sail]

only QOL mods, no content mods added

[naive frigate]

Alright

[unreal topaz]

not to mention the lost money and booster packs

[stable mulch]

about to start another balatro run, hopefully its not just gonna drain all my luck in ante 7

[unreal topaz]

shoot the moon runs are the best baron runs

[patent sail]

(basically just funny animated jokers mod, blinds showing in shop mod and joker stats display mod)

[naive frigate]

I got foil greedy joker so ig we're doign the diamond focused run

[patent sail]

they were actually both doing something

[unreal topaz]

sounds like you have a money management problem

[ancient gyro]

no you're not

[naive frigate]

Ig i am not

[unreal topaz]

yeah, i wasnt lying

they complement each other

shoot the moon early sets up baron later

[patent sail]

ive just been getting both stm and baron a lot lately

[stable mulch]

no not really, i was lined up for a win yesterday and got unlucky for a few hands

lost at the boss blind by a few thousands

[green apex]

ive been getting a lot of throwback runs

[naive frigate]

Im getting some dogshit jokers today

[unreal topaz]

it happens tbf

[patent sail]

and ive grown to like baron a bit

he is fun IF you manage to make him work, which is a GIANT fucking if

also not to mention

plant

[unreal topaz]

also water, hook, psychic, needle, some others im forgetting

[green apex]

i almost lost my first checkered gold stake run because i was 1 king off from a 4oak (was playing flush fives), had 6 kings in my deck left with 14 cards

[ancient gyro]

in other words baron is still in the bottom 5

[patent sail]

i guess every F tier joker gets its time to shine someday

except seance and showman, fuck these two

[green apex]

wow

cheers

[patent sail]

what the fuck is this

[green apex]

idfk 😭

[ancient gyro]

virus 😍🦟

[unreal topaz]

idol falls in that category too

[patent sail]

broski thinks we wont notice the #@ before discord.gg

[unreal topaz]

the ones created for endless

baron was also made for high scoring endless stuff

thunk p much said it himself

[naive frigate]

Oh my son

[patent sail]

baron was made for my erratic deck runs 🐎🔥

[green apex]

do you just not utilise such jokers when gold stickering, are you essentially playing painted deck without the extra handsize

[patent sail]

free win

[spring sparrow]

I tried to come back to the game but I can not play it anymore, every time I click play, this appears, and ive already uninstalled the game! like wtf else can i do

[ancient gyro]

a3r4

[naive frigate]

How

Im broke

[patent sail]

kill flower

[safe flower]

Idol missed, gg.

[green apex]

flower is useless

always

[naive frigate]

why'd i kill flower

[patent sail]

what is it doing for you

[unreal topaz]

ideally you're trying to create a build that doesn't need many, or any, jokers to score points

[naive frigate]

oh fuck

[patent sail]

F tier joker genuinely

[green apex]

ah cool

[unreal topaz]

so you use your joker slots for value to set that up

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[unreal topaz]

not really like painted

[patent sail]

Xmult is good but that shit is never triggering

[green apex]

so you want like 3 or 4 jokers for main scoring/econ and just some extra slots for the annoying ones

[unreal topaz]

on painted you cant squeeze value generators in as easily

[naive frigate]

I kinda already bought mars so is there something else that's useless

That i can sell

[patent sail]

man why mars

[ancient gyro]

not with that attitude

[naive frigate]

I forgot i can sell things

[unreal topaz]

you want to not take too many eternals, save up money and reroll in ante 8 once you know the final boss

pretty much

[patent sail]

to be honest this is a real run ive had where flower pot did things

but i still hate it

fuck flower pot

[patent sail]

are you even playing 4oak

if not why mars

[unreal topaz]

bc then you just only keep the jokers you need and swap out the others for the useless ones

[naive frigate]

I

Don't know

[green apex]

exceptions

[patent sail]

also wheres your econ

who ate it

[naive frigate]

I got some dogshit jokers vro

[green apex]

wasnt trying for stickers, just naturally happened

[unreal topaz]

i bet they're actually really strong

like 80% chance

[patent sail]

vaga is great, bean is pretty good, blue jonkler my beloved

[naive frigate]

None of them econ

[green apex]

doesnt mean its bad

[naive frigate]

Should i take the negative small blind skip

[echo sphinx]

what the fuckkk

[patent sail]

okay well with vaga sure fuck econ actually

[green apex]

is vagabond technically an econ joker?

[unreal topaz]

yeah vagabond does it all

[patent sail]

PERSONALLY i would because im an idiot

but its generally not very good

[naive frigate]

Then i am taking it

[unreal topaz]

you're considering missing a round of tarot cards when you have vagabond...

[naive frigate]

Yeah too late

[patent sail]

let them learn on mistakes 🗣🗣🗣

🗣🔥

[unreal topaz]

he's hopeless

[green apex]

shop 1 cert, shop 2 brainstorm, relied on abstract for a bit, got hologram, got madness ante 7, decided to sell a joker cause blue joker was eternal and picked that up

[ancient gyro]

maybe if you didn't fucking skip every single round they would be more useful

[patent sail]

also you should totally watch balatro 101 by balatro university RIGHT NOW

[patent sail]

i think this time they didnt but

idk

[naive frigate]

Im still new chilll

[ancient gyro]

a3r4

[green apex]

also ALMOST every joker is good if you know how to use them

[patent sail]

@naive frigate ‼️‼️‼️

[green apex]

one sec

[patent sail]

nevermind sure yup

[naive frigate]

How long is it

[patent sail]

4 short videos (under 10 minutes) and 1 19 or so minutes

[ancient gyro]

within 20 tiktok shorts

[green apex]

only an hour or so that saves 10 hours of unnecessary mistakes

[stable mulch]

what exactly does this mean? like, if i play a pair, will my next pair trigger multiplier?

[serene forge]

never take negative tags like ever

[green apex]

ye

[naive frigate]

Should i do alat

[green apex]

its worth it

[unreal topaz]

i'm not sure if you're really appreciating how much value you lose by skipping a whole shop

[stable mulch]

hell yeah bro hollup

[patent sail]

i think those are pretty helpful

[hoary moon]

js have fun

[naive frigate]

Ok i'll watch it sooner or later

[patent sail]

especially the long one that goes over why pairs are unbalanced

[hoary moon]

dont listen to these nerds

[unreal topaz]

yep

[ancient gyro]

they don't know how to do that yet

[unreal topaz]

exactly

[green apex]

goes for anything which is nice, but needle and eye are a pretty hard counter

[hoary moon]

pairslop is not fun

[patent sail]

winning is fun

[stable mulch]

needle is SATAN bru, i always get the director's cut because of him

[echo sphinx]

winning si fun

YESHHHH

[ancient gyro]

neither is skipping every single blind on black deck and wondering why they're going nowhere

[patent sail]

shared braincell

[green apex]

winning is fun hmm.... just gotta do that

[unreal topaz]

it hasnt gotten dull to me yet bc i make so much ingame money playing pairs

[naive frigate]

Did royal flush deadass just give me 4k

[echo sphinx]

lol ye

rarest poker hand

[patent sail]

high hand ≠ high score

[ancient gyro]

snap snap get with the program

[patent sail]

hold on

[echo sphinx]

lol wtf

challenge run smore

[naive frigate]

No it's like

A small amount

[green apex]

exactly

[patent sail]

exactky what i said

[green apex]

high hand wasnt a high score

[naive frigate]

Oh i thought that was an equal sign

[patent sail]

here you go

[unreal topaz]

yeah, you're shocked that the hand you aren't leaning into/using resources to improve isn't keeping up

[patent sail]

if i play 5 flush instead of high card on my baron run score wont explode

[unreal topaz]

side note, you would get more resources to improve the hand you want to play by not skipping

[echo sphinx]

@patent sail can you do this one too

pwease

[green apex]

wow what

[patent sail]

esmBot, but ill do it