🕹・game-discussion

[tender quarry]

So maybe a smaller difference than you’d expect (especially with a little rare blocking already)

[rustic haven]

i sell rebate correct?

yes

correct

good deduction karu

[cloud sinew]

twin why does it say youve been playing balatro for 15 hours

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[rustic haven]

and ill be playing for another 40

[ancient gyro]

i do this all the time with terraria

[tender quarry]

1 endless run

[rustic haven]

no i left my game open while at work

so

😭

[shell dagger]

should’ve just played instead of going to work imo

[ancient gyro]

13 hour ante 12 decision paralysis

[cloud sinew]

and youre only halfway done scoring the hand

[rustic haven]

😭

[quaint stag]

jro playing 0.5 speed

[rustic haven]

i was actually in the ante 1 small blind shop

i was debating

over golden vs cloud 9

[shell dagger]

with how quickly jokers get cycled in white stake endless im fairly confident golden is an easy take there

[rustic haven]

lol

[cloud sinew]

unless buying something in the same shop with the $1 you save is a consideration, then i'm taking c9

[rustic haven]

the way this run started

and the way i pivoted

im actually insanely proud of myself

like idk

[cloud sinew]

karu what are yo pronounce

[rustic haven]

i went from flush five red seal kings 32x lucky cat into baronmime naneinf attempt

[rustic haven]

he/him but they is cool too, im a femboy so i genuinely couldnt care, my gender more fluid than my ford's oil pan

[tender quarry]

You pronounce it “karu” I think

[rustic haven]

oh

[shell dagger]

katrue

[rustic haven]

im ngl

[cloud sinew]

sick

[cloud sinew]

hi ngl

[random terrace]

I snuck into the bathroom just to play Balatro because it was state testing

[rustic haven]

i thought it was just a typo

😭

[rustic haven]

hi!

[tender quarry]

(It was I’m just making fun of lilo)

[cloud sinew]

the typos were detentional

[ancient gyro]

christ this typewriter is heavy

[cloud sinew]

its a bundle of metal stamps, what did u expect

[waxen quartz]

from a bit back: if you have perkeo you never go steel. it's the same as having another baron, which hopefully gold cards give you enough $ to find 🙂

[tender quarry]

You’re going to detentional if you keep this up

[rustic haven]

is this tech?

wouldnt steel make naneinf less kings tho

like what 44

[waxen quartz]

if you don't have perkeo and don't need steel, it's a god seed

[rustic haven]

idk how that works

but fire

[cloud sinew]

chat my sleep alarm went off so i have to turn my electronics off or i will EXPLODE

[shell dagger]

what’s the baron comparison

[cloud sinew]

goodnight balacord

[rustic haven]

goodnight new friend!

[tender quarry]

I think idea is that you get enough to naneinf without steel anyway so making more money with gold is better

And also you only need 1 steel to copy with cryptid

But like I might be wrong

[rustic haven]

yeah but how do you get to like

that much hand size

[tender quarry]

I am not an endless player

[heavy tendon]

Advice on how to fix deck? Seems like that is more important than the jokers you have in most runs. Farthest I’ve gotten is like 15mil and with almost no fixing. Dunno if I do something wrong or what.

[tender quarry]

Just cryptid right

[shell dagger]

oh i misinterpreted it

you’re saying steel is another baron, not perkeo

[waxen quartz]

find purple seal, copy purple seals. once your deck is about 1/3 purple, you'll get enough tarot to do practically anything to ut

[ancient gyro]

i expected to be more fit

[rustic haven]

or get oops! with 8ball hallucination

thats how this run started

[heavy tendon]

Ok so tarots are key for fixing. Tarots and spectral.

[shell dagger]

money

[waxen quartz]

as for how to get enough handsize (outside chicot or crimson bean...cryptid is fine) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351284467238699208/1351284628404834375/Screenshot_20250317_155331.png?ex=69e7d7e1&is=69e68661&hm=f2bc3113ca30f16bed324f7f41ec2f13cc97300d620c51c14268d6c093a0952a&

[tender quarry]

Most problems in Balatro can be solved by having a lot of money

Also applies to real life

[heavy tendon]

Yeah I figured. Still tryna get down how to save and use properly.

[rustic haven]

yeah i didnt realize you meant with perkeo

also that stacking mod is cool

[waxen quartz]

without perkeo it's a whole different game

[rustic haven]

thats what im doing rn

😭

[zinc sigil]

Going from gold stake to this is like idk wtf its so easy

You cant do no wrong

[rustic haven]

ghost deck

[zinc sigil]

Yea ts is so easy

I did gs plasma and blue

I was dying

But greenstake

Is so piss easy

[waxen quartz]

well required is antimatter + retcon. 60ish card deck of redseal kings (mostly uniform)

[zinc sigil]

I used to struggle so much

[waxen quartz]

then just find the uncommons at the right time

[waxen quartz]

(easier said than done)

[rustic haven]

[terse dock]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1415780753735680151 collect my pages

solve my riddles

[rustic haven]

this run is perfect i just need to not fuck it up

[hybrid zealot]

Holy shit

[shell dagger]

oui

[ancient gyro]

it's just dumbed down to burger snake tech and voucher/boss rng

[rustic haven]

worth?

or just force roll?

for them?

[shell dagger]

i don’t like it

[rustic haven]

since invis has

lower chance

yeah

[shell dagger]

you can find a copy joker with 7500

[rustic haven]

esp with overstock+

yea

[waxen quartz]

you have enough $ and there's bad hits

need copy joker

[rustic haven]

assumed, jus wasnt sure

yeye

[shell dagger]

double shoot the moon could be tech tho…

[rustic haven]

😭

real

[waxen quartz]

it's maybe ~120 rerolls or about $4k if spread over a few shops?

something like that

[rustic haven]

but i do have to find it before ante 24 right?

[waxen quartz]

wait half that. two rare hits so ~ 1/200 jokers

[ancient gyro]

you die otherwise

[rustic haven]

[shell dagger]

60 rerolls is only like 900 bucks if over 2 shops

[waxen quartz]

think you need. 6 scoring jokers and dna to survive 24, replace with burglar in 25?

[rustic haven]

im tryna like maximize gold but idk the scoring diff

[waxen quartz]

ya, 45 in hand. get 2 per hand, so need 19 hands + scoring hand

[rustic haven]

11 kings, 4 steel, 7 gold scored e55 and next ante is e59

would that be just 1 king added?

like thats where i wish i knbew

tbh

[shell dagger]

going from all gold to all steel increases your e number by 25%

[waxen quartz]

ya, e5 per king (mixed means be careful

[rustic haven]

e5 per steel?

[waxen quartz]

you have enough $, it's fine

[rustic haven]

well ive gone from 8-6k

ik thats still a lot

just worried cuz i have

6 shops left

[shell dagger]

slightly more but not enough to bother trying to optimise

[rustic haven]

[waxen quartz]

can always reroll to serpent (skip small/large). that costs about $300 per ante

[rustic haven]

BROL

im gonna

bro

no fucking way

i had 11 kings 6 steel 5 gold and im abt to lose

yeah okay

fuck that

no fucking way man

i just have no words

truly

gg

talk to yall later

[waxen quartz]

ya you copied the right jokers, no way to squeeze out more score

[rustic haven]

yeah idk

thought 6 steel was enough if 4 could score e55

guess i shouldve just played it safe

actually my best attempt

and i fuck it up

i think this is the first time ive genuinely been upset at balatro

[terse dock]

67steel

[waxen quartz]

I get upset at balatro all the time

know what I need, spend a fortune on rerolls, don't find it

[rustic haven]

i could play gold stake red, black, and green deck combined and not be more upset than i am right now

[terse dock]

if the game gave you what you needed every run would either be baron if it judges by score or fibonacci if it was an ideal world

[rustic haven]

that wasnt the issue

genuinely skill issue

shouldve known scoring

[waxen quartz]

ante 8 runs, it's usually you find the xmult or not...

[rustic haven]

i need to do more research

bc im tired of getting this clode

close

and it just dying by my own hands

[waxen quartz]

2 more steel is (1.5^8 / 2)^2 more score

[rustic haven]

idk math man

[waxen quartz]

(why I pretty much just do uniform gold lol)

[rustic haven]

i didnt have perkeo

[waxen quartz]

perkeo is 1/200 runs. on plasma that's assuredly naninf/ante 39 if you want

neg perkeo is 1/60000? something like that

[rustic haven]

yeah but in the case im going for naneinf perkeoless in the 199/200 other runs

would full gold not just lose?

past ante 20

[waxen quartz]

without serpent? probably...

[ancient gyro]

the former means fuck all when they're doing a strat that naneinfs approximately every 5 runs

[waxen quartz]

I'd put it a little lower. like 1/10

[ancient gyro]

also I come back to disappointment

[rustic haven]

so my point is, i shouldn't be trying to go for golds at all at that point, ante 22 hitting a dead end until i find 4th copy joker

then playing for ante 25 burg

and thats it

[shell dagger]

1 more whole steel card is an extra e5, one card going from gold to steel is only e1ish

[rustic haven]

i added 2 and it added e2

so

[ancient gyro]

i don't play naneinf enough I'm just going off of what doc said a few months back regarding burger snake frequency

[waxen quartz]

na, all gold would be perkeo. just hold onto rebate as long as possible with a uniform deck and bank about $8k

[rustic haven]

i had 6k bro why was i forcing golds

bro

that actually makes me insanely upset

im ngl

[shell dagger]

another run will come

[rustic haven]

bro i was

this is probably my 10th attempt this past 5 days?

[ancient gyro]

it's not a rare enough occurrence to ruin my day over

[shell dagger]

i threw my first proper naneinf attempt by going into ante 25 small blind with burglar

[rustic haven]

xdd

[ancient gyro]

also prob one of the many reasons why I don't naneinf

[rustic haven]

my pb yesterday i got e127

but

this was my closest to actually rounding out a naneinf

especially perkeoless

rah

its fine

[waxen quartz]

it can be painful. just play a ridiculous perkeo seed like 1Z61KBG (naninf ante 5)

[rustic haven]

im doing my first ever naneinf random seed

and that wont change

until i get one perkeoless or perkeowith i will not be doing seeded

[ancient gyro]

seeded naneinfs don't have any passion, otherwise I'd just go with the ante 5 naneinf seed

[waxen quartz]

for me I think it's about 1/10 seeds is good enough. good starting $ and early overstock I find most important, then can force almost everything

[ancient gyro]

do you have a source for this probability

[waxen quartz]

I've done about 3 random naninfs

[rustic haven]

and if i get my first naneinf perkeowith i will be trying again perkeoless random seeded

[ancient gyro]

that's not a credible source

[rustic haven]

and if i do it random seeded perkeoless i will be doing a set seed perkeowith xd

i mean

[waxen quartz]

I'm pretty credible 😉

[rustic haven]

my past few runs have been near perfect

mostly with just me being the main factor of my loss

[waxen quartz]

drspectred did the naninf speedrun for a month, he'd have much better numbers but I've never seen it talked about

[rustic haven]

now i know how important money is

and not normal amounts of money

[ancient gyro]

pretty sure the last naneinf tutorial goes over the 1 in 5 naneinf probability

[rustic haven]

like "wow $800 thats nice!"

[waxen quartz]

like life $ is almost everything in balatro (the only thing it can't buy is enough joker slots)

[rustic haven]

unless you have so much u just roll into every negative

LMAO

waiting for my negative showman run

ugh fuck it

we go again man

[waxen quartz]

every 300th joker is negative, but rolling into them is...random 🙂

[rustic haven]

losing is learning

and i learnt a lot from this run

so

[rustic haven]

:P

[waxen quartz]

(like 10k rolls for a neg copy joker)

[rustic haven]

o7

prolly didnt reroll enough

if im gonna be so honest

652 is like

kind of ass

for how much money i had

i got showman round ante 21 small blind

or no

ante 20 small blinds

so 2 full antes to roll

now i know how icarus feels

so close just to end up back at the ground

[fiery nymph]

mega noob

[vale shale]

Alright alright. 1 take gold stake run any deck. What deck we thinking bout.

[ancient gyro]

black

[rustic haven]

swiss you used to be my goat

[rustic haven]

i alr said that yesterday

be original

[fiery nymph]

what happened

[rustic haven]

you called me noob on my best naneinf attempt yet

actually this is only like

[fiery nymph]

oh

[rustic haven]

my 7-8th

[fiery nymph]

sorry pro

[rustic haven]

not pro

[fiery nymph]

oh

noob?

[ancient gyro]

look who you're talking to

[rustic haven]

tiny bit below average

[fiery nymph]

i uh

[rustic haven]

L

only e11

nerd

[fiery nymph]

got e125 on my first real endl*ss run

and i hated it

so i left

[rustic haven]

my pb is e127

i love endless

[fiery nymph]

its the worst

its like

[rustic haven]

i hope to get a trib at some point so i can do full trib sock idol glass red seal poly

[vale shale]

Kcalb

[fiery nymph]

just use idol

💔

[rustic haven]

yeah but i want the full package

[fiery nymph]

idol is the same package

[rustic haven]

so if i ever get a trib

[vale shale]

Can't believe I've been doing this for 4 months

[rustic haven]

im forcing that

[fiery nymph]

but like

idol and trib score the exact same

just

use idol

🥀

[rustic haven]

why not both with sock red seal glass poly?

[ancient gyro]

cant believe youve ignored my suggestions all this time

[fiery nymph]

literally use a copy joker xd

[ancient gyro]

redundant

[fallen valley]

New card???

[fiery nymph]

its way easier to get two idols than a trib

[rustic haven]

but trib

[fiery nymph]

worst legendary btw

[real flicker]

Goodness, I love this run, but I hate how I have it too

[ancient gyro]

and gold is better long term

[rustic haven]

no thats canio

/j

[humble gulch]

True

[fiery nymph]

trib is my sweet 10$

[ancient gyro]

cut to karu chan saying the complete opposite 24 hours ago

[rustic haven]

lowkey

[humble gulch]

My sweet sweet +20 mult

[rustic haven]

yes bc i had a fucking

[fiery nymph]

my sweet legendary photograph

🥀

[ancient gyro]

🗣️

[rustic haven]

ankh canio bp run

and that shit was nuts

[fiery nymph]

my first canio run

on gs

[rustic haven]

canio is op af

[fiery nymph]

was a free win

[rustic haven]

like god damn

[harsh relic]

legit

[fiery nymph]

i put canio above yorick

[waxen quartz]

naninf stuff is reasonably fun to set up. but then it gets to a point where there's nothing to add, and it's skip to the end, which isn't worth the time

[rustic haven]

yes 100%

its so fucking free to stack

yorick is annoying

[ancient gyro]

i don't for poverty reasons

[humble gulch]

Switzerland isn't real, it's a marketing strat to sell more chocolate and cheese 🗣️

[fiery nymph]

ig true

[rustic haven]

1: perkeo
2: canio
3: trib
4: yorick
5: chicot

and yes

i sell chicot

[bronze pollen]

Yo is this normal?

[rustic haven]

every time i get it

i do not care

[fiery nymph]

bad list

[rustic haven]

idc

[fiery nymph]

horrendous

[ancient gyro]

i will not be there upon your naneinf request

[humble gulch]

What's wrong here

[rustic haven]

wat

[humble gulch]

Hearts also count as diamonds

With smeared

[rustic haven]

xd

[bronze pollen]

I forgot about that

[fiery nymph]

smeared is bad

soooo bad

[ancient gyro]

its

ok a1-2

[bronze pollen]

But with ancient it’s good

[mental bloom]

Pocket checkered deck

[ancient gyro]

with ancient you're now susceptible to suit bosses

[fiery nymph]

its tryna be a shortcut for flshes so bad!!

[humble gulch]

-1 joker slot, double the risk and checkered isn't that good...

[mental bloom]

Exactly

[humble gulch]

Real

[ancient gyro]

im still trying to marinate the thought of flushes being more consistent on average over straights for winning

[fiery nymph]

idol better than smeared

[fiery nymph]

according to whattt

[humble gulch]

Go Idol chad checkered

[fiery nymph]

son

[harsh relic]

ancient:

[fiery nymph]

you invented photochad

🥀

this isnt real

[humble gulch]

I actually wanna do it

Idol chad checkered

Sounds fun

[fiery nymph]

i do

8ball idol

[ancient gyro]

available resources

[fiery nymph]

white stake weighing this down

[ancient gyro]

and boss blind intensity

[fiery nymph]

dont tell me gold stake 😣

[ancient gyro]

gs win rate

[bronze pollen]

What if there was a stake that was just boss rush?

[ancient gyro]

boss rush doesn't really fit for a game like this atm

[fiery nymph]

😔

its the white stake warriors reseting for aj rare skip tag

or maybe

people underrate straights

[ancient gyro]

i think you missed the point of my argument

[noble shuttle]

I love campfire an unfathomable amount

[fiery nymph]

im not following i just hate flshes

[ancient gyro]

"Simplifying it to get it back on track:

If you had to prioritise one hand in the same manner you prioritise hand now, Flush would be a better hand to do that with than Straight if you want to win gold stake consistently"

syn

[sleek pike]

Huh. Maybe I underestimated stone cards.

Same goes for the jokers that go with it

[fiery nymph]

good for fixing

and scoring

at the same time

[sleek pike]

I generally don’t dip into hands with less than 5 cards as the focus, which is admittedly a flaw, I can see the appeal of this

[tender quarry]

I can’t believe I made a typo here 😔

[ancient gyro]

prioritise

[tender quarry]

No that’s just because I’m British (you’re allowed to lose any respect you had for me now)

[sleek pike]

Me when I finally understand high card and pair

[rustic haven]

alr im alr back on track

this is nice

[ancient gyro]

ty

[rustic haven]

AND REBATE

GOD

this game loves me

AND CERTI

[ornate pecan]

Is dropping half joker for baseball card worth it? Wee joker is at +264

[fiery nymph]

this isnt an endl*ss joker

[rustic haven]

gets me my red seal king

[fiery nymph]

standard packs

😅

[rustic haven]

no

0 luck on those

also certi gives me free planet value

so

[sleek pike]

LOL crazy rng, I had the amber acorn and it just swapped my green joker and baseball card, great job you achieved nothing

[fiery nymph]

it also makes ur fixing harder

[rustic haven]

i did it last run

ill be fine

[ancient gyro]

it's an endless enabler

[fiery nymph]

dont standard packs do the same thing

[rustic haven]

HUGE

forgot to bp it

but

didnt matter

[sleek pike]

Also where the flip did you get suit roles, that didn’t used to be a thing

Nvm I got it

[rustic haven]

time to savescum!

[sleek pike]

You can savescum?

[rustic haven]

yeah

pop invis instant pause/esc then go to main menu

works on mobile too

i did it on mobile at work earlier with an ecto xdd

[sleek pike]

I thought it autosaved after choosing the outcome to something random

[rustic haven]

not if u do it like

instant

[sleek pike]

Oh so you’re having a 1v1 with the code itself

[rustic haven]

p much

[fiery nymph]

game saves like every reroll, hand, discard, pack

doesnt even need to be instant

[rustic haven]

yeah fair

[dark lava]

JokerPokerBalala

[fiery nymph]

but its for noobs

[sleek pike]

So it saves for ALMOST every rng calling event

[eternal flame]

matador

[sleek pike]

Almost every significant one that is

[ancient gyro]

every refresh sequence

[distant jacinth]

What does it mean to destroy s face card for canio

[rustic haven]

womp womp

[rustic haven]

hanged man

trading card

immolate

any time a face card is destroyed

in any way

[sleek pike]

Have the card burned from your deck by any means. Hanged man destroys cards, if it’s a glass card it has a 1/4 chance of breaking, so on.

[rustic haven]

W savescum

ok

well

now i die

so

nvm

[echo owl]

black deck gold stake finally

this was the team

[stoic isle]

hello gao ming again

[fossil rover]

ok random question which would you consider better blueprint or brainstorm

[vale shale]

Bp

[fossil rover]

yeah...

[vale shale]

The only specific time that bs is better than bp is when bs is polychrome and is copying a flat mult

[fossil rover]

true

i felt like it was really obvious but i wasnt 100% sure

[cyan timber]

how do i make obelisk viable?

[vale shale]

10 pairs

[echo owl]

hello cba

[fossil rover]

the feeling when you have bb and a xmult and flatmult joker

[cyan timber]

what?

[echo owl]

you gotta play a lot of one hand first then switch to another upgraded hand

[vale shale]

10 pairs is what makes obelisk viable

[cyan timber]

the feelings i felt when i looked at your pfp

[stoic isle]

ok i go now

[cyan timber]

vruh

[fossil rover]

LMAOO

[cyan timber]

is that like the uhhh

incredibles dude

but a baby or sum?

[fossil rover]

its a mr incredible meme if i remember correctly

[cyan timber]

[fossil rover]

idk someone sent it in a gc randomly

[rustic haven]

hot

only $20 btw

😭

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[serene forge]

women are hot

[rustic haven]

this is true

top 10 truest statements

[light oak]

do I sell dna

[serene forge]

i think you sell the bloodstone

and the bloodstone

and the dna and the parei and the photo

[humble gulch]

Why do you have pareidolia

[light oak]

for sock

[serene forge]

i have so many questions here

[serene forge]

you didn't have one

[humble gulch]

Just deck fix to face cards, bro

[serene forge]

also that

[light oak]

I knew there was one

[humble gulch]

You don't need pareidolia

[molten thicket]

wha

[serene forge]

why don't you use your foresight to give yourself better jokers

[light oak]

because then I'd suffer from success

[light oak]

it would be boring to win every game

[molten thicket]

true

he got a point

[fiery nymph]

trib time please!

[molten thicket]

also you win easily either way so

[fiery nymph]

idol too

[serene forge]

do they

[rustic haven]

the issue is

i only have 5 joker slots

and 3 are copy jokers

😭

[molten thicket]

id assume with 2 bloodstones, a photo and a sock it'd be hard to die

[fiery nymph]

go ecto and run idol

[light oak]

now do I sell dna

[rustic haven]

i can certainly try

[light oak]

notice the lack of retriggers

[spare girder]

Hello

[fiery nymph]

notice how bad bloodstone is

[serene forge]

3 copies of bloodstone isn't enough for you?

[light oak]

don't you DARE diss my goat

[humble gulch]

That means a lot

[light oak]

nah we need more

[fiery nymph]

ur goat that relies on retriggers and a dice

[humble gulch]

That means bloodstone is bad

[fiery nymph]

might need to find a new one

[molten thicket]

he got sock and photo and bp even if he somehow misses all his bloodstones he's gonna be fine

[serene forge]

also trash hand type

and worst suit

[light oak]

so I cant shoot for the stars?

[fiery nymph]

flush 5 is not trash

flshes are

[serene forge]

walmart photochad

[serene forge]

i meant flush

[light oak]

is the point of the game not to create crazy synergies

[molten thicket]

temu photochad but it works

[serene forge]

you don't have synergies

you have photo without chad

you have bloodstone without dice

lol

[light oak]

schizophrenia

[humble gulch]

No

The only synergy that matters is chips + mult + xmult

[light oak]

that sounds like a crazy synergy to me

[fiery nymph]

theres a reason why i have seance stickered before bloodstone

[fiery nymph]

because bloodstone scrapes the bottom of MEGA F tier

[fiery nymph]

🤮

[molten thicket]

both deadweight anyways

[fiery nymph]

diss my goat again

[serene forge]

seance has the advantage of not being dickridden by noobs

[fiery nymph]

seance also

always does what it should

[humble gulch]

Double generator

[molten thicket]

ghost deck btw 😭 still insane you managed to fix towards it

[fiery nymph]

ghost deck seance the goat 🙏

[humble gulch]

Ghost deck doesn't really help to deck fix towards strushes...

[fiery nymph]

i used uhh

the thing that changes to random suit

[molten thicket]

immolate + sigil

[fiery nymph]

that helped get strushes pnline

i got a bean and sigil

[humble gulch]

Checkered and abandoned are more useful

[sonic hull]

[serene forge]

can we normalize calling jokers by their name from the balatro page on the namu wiki

[humble gulch]

Well, in that case yeah, I guess

[fiery nymph]

well ofc but ooooh cool run

[fiery nymph]

what is bus

[humble gulch]

What's a regular joker 💔

[light brook]

jimbo duh

[fiery nymph]

only if you choose blind

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 3

[fiery nymph]

oh god

[humble gulch]

PICTURE

[fiery nymph]

im gonna use that terminology more

picturechad

[humble gulch]

Let me guess, it was made by someone who has C++ with flush as their most played hand

[light brook]

what’s bloodstone

(please be shitstone)

(or deadweight)

[humble gulch]

It's a challenge where you lose a joker slot

[light brook]

based

[serene forge]

rough gem plus blood

[light brook]

boo boring

[humble gulch]

Okay

[fiery nymph]

now that i think of it

imagine like smeared joker with two of the gemstone jokers

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 3

[fiery nymph]

specifically agate and arrowhead

thats actually pretty nice

[serene forge]

read this description though

[rustic haven]

i cant yet

[fiery nymph]

all bc of the cert

🙄

[rustic haven]

5 joker slots means deckfixing is up to shop tarots

[rustic haven]

ok

[light brook]

is this google translate or something what the fuck does genealogy have to do with ts ✌️

[mighty gust]

Goated glass joker

[humble gulch]

I got walled...

Bruh

[mighty gust]

"YOU CAN'T OUTSTALL THE WALL!"

[serene forge]

namu wiki is a korean wiki

so probably

[light brook]

it’s so worth take it

[spiral star]

do i have my baseball card and brainstorm in the right spot here?

[light brook]

either that or a science teacher wrote it

[serene forge]

baseball card spot doesn't matter

[humble gulch]

Free win

[molten thicket]

hey i wonder what's the best first guess for balatrodle

[light oak]

do I sell business card for lucky

[molten thicket]

or if there's even 1

[fiery nymph]

not incantation

[serene forge]

hologram/fraudstone

[fiery nymph]

boooooo

[molten thicket]

hm

[light brook]

how many luckies do you have

[molten thicket]

i'll try it next time

[light oak]

about 8

[spiral star]

that is the right thing to brainstorm here right?

[humble gulch]

Look who it is

[light brook]

i mean if you can tank the score by brainstorming the sock i’d say do it and buy hella magicians

[light brook]

MY GOAT

[serene forge]

yes

[spiral star]

made it pass the wall nice

[light brook]

oh my. it IS all 6!

[lofty otter]

Who wants to coach me through and help me make good decisions during a run

I'll VC with them

[humble gulch]

Okay, bro

[light brook]

ts game wants you to win…

[near basalt]

Gunna cry bruh

[light brook]

the only funny play is to throw

[serene forge]

here win

[humble gulch]

I think I'm getting out of green

[light brook]

this joker rubbin one out

[light oak]

do I pivot to baron, my deck is primarily kings

[brave fox]

Im tempted to grab seance, I got a crap ton of diamonds

[serene forge]

i think you hold r

[light oak]

what's that do

[lean jacinth]

GAG

[fringe nebula]

try it

well

i guess you can't hold r on mobile balatro

[serene forge]

unlimited carbonated water effects

[fringe nebula]

the eye is not that bad because you can just beat it in 1 hand with flush five

[humble gulch]

Well

[mental bloom]

one of the most recent roffle shorts on youtube showed him pulling a brainstorm from a judgement

man I love judgement

[fringe nebula]

I love judgement

[humble gulch]

We love judgement

[ancient gyro]

i hate rofl shorts 🩳

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[gentle basalt]

except in this specific case it does

[serene forge]

you know what i mean

[toxic lily]

A. LUCHADOR?!!!!
B. Love your name btw 😂

[serene forge]

ty

[brittle umbra]

Well that was a good run for once

Literally forgot to reroll the boss blind

[viral raft]

Whatsapp

[near basalt]

"I'm so green"

[viral raft]

Green joker

[humble gulch]

So, smoking actually gives you more radiation than walking on chernobyl

Like

Three times more

[near basalt]

The Greener joker

[viral raft]

The greenest joker

[sand lily]

I just got the paintbrush voucher...should I use ecto?

I'm hoping to get another brainstorm, mime, or baron

[vale shale]

I've lost hope with the black deck

[viral raft]

that reminds me of mewgenics by how they have so weird thingy with "green" bosses

[vale shale]

I got to ante 5 but I have no real jokers and money

Abandoned it

[viral raft]

Black deck is the true abandoned deck

because you get the point of losing all hope until something really cool happens

[serene forge]

sell parking first

[sand lily]

I used ecto and it hit parking

[near basalt]

Negative egg incoming

[serene forge]

smartest obelisk hater be like

[sand lily]

Good news, got another mime

[vale shale]

To account of abandoning black deck because that's literally the first time I've abandoned

Alright alright. 1 take gold stake run any deck. What deck we thinking bout.

[sand lily]

obelisk defenders explaining why you should play lvl 1 hands at ante 6

[subtle drum]

nah u need as much hand size as possible

[vale shale]

Let's try again (except if someone says black again)

[serene forge]

zodiac

[vale shale]

Brodiac

[serene forge]

why do i need hand levels when i have chip jokers and mult jokers

i have taken a square joker in ante 5 before just to get obelisk going

because i needed the chips

sometimes you don't even need a chip joker

that's just to make braindead hc more viable with obelisk

bigger hands usually have decent enough chip numbers to be useful

[subtle drum]

fr most of the time if u have a foil then ur set

[gentle basalt]

with a 3x obelisk, base chips from 5-card hands equivalent to level 12 pairs (assuming no chip joker)

even with level 3-4 on some hand types, you can definitely do obelisk

[humble gulch]

Imagine a spectral card for every edition

I love foil

[tall sage]

I was surprised by how well Burglar played in a recent run of mine (orange stake magic deck). Losing access to purple seal value is real, but the extra money and "recovering" the lost blue stake discard are both things I was not appreciating before.

And I ended up in flash card / runner and got many many chances to level the runner up

[compact niche]

Hi - I joined the discord server just now to ask this question - I'm stumped here. Got so much money to burn on rerolls - how can I make this build better at this point? I'm guessing xmult? And if so which joker should I look to replace? Is smiley face still worth it this late in the run when I have a ton of mult cards already?

(sorry if this is the wrong channel to ask this)

[sand lily]

why do I need obelisk when I could have fun

[terse vale]

what does this even mean

proves nothing just saying stuff

[vale shale]

Boodiac

[glass creek]

Obby lisk

[terse vale]

I don’t even kno why people hate it

I thought winning was a good thing 💭

[glass creek]

People hate good jokers, I guess

[sand lily]

https://klipy.com/gifs/an-iq-too-high-1

[serene forge]

did you have fun using ectoplasm on reserved parking

no?

[terse vale]

playing level 1 hands doesn’t matter when the jokers themselves are providing all the score

[serene forge]

then shut up

[sand lily]

https://klipy.com/gifs/donkey-kong-33

live @serene forge reaction

[serene forge]

people like you are why discourse over this game is so frustrating

[terse vale]

its not our fault you’re obtuse man

[serene forge]

obtuse as well as projecting their insecurity on others

[strange delta]

what did i walk in on???

[tawny palm]

Obtuse

[terse vale]

what are both of you guys’ profile man
especially the fucking mime

[real flicker]

the mime pfp is amazing

[terse vale]

IMTALKING about the mime’s bio

[strange delta]

i dont know whats going on.

but the only way to settle it would be to 1v1 balatro multiplayer.

[real flicker]

I don't shame others for their interests, so long as they keep it away from me

[terse vale]

THE THING IS

ITS OUT IN THE OPEN FOR ALL TO SEE

[strange delta]

who is mime?

[terse vale]

NOBODYNEEDS TO KNOW WHAT YOURE INTO

[terse vale]

“RememberMe?”

[strange delta]

oh.

[sand lily]

https://shorturl.at/JSuQC

[terse dock]

I'm tired boss

[delicate tide]

😭

Discourse over the game is so unfun because you also argue back

This isnt a one sided thing

[real flicker]

When will Local add Perishable Eternal jokers

[serene forge]

literally not what i mean

[terse dock]

1.0.1a

[brave goblet]

[serene forge]

i've been in the sts community for a while and there's a stark contrast, here you can have a conversation specifically about how good or bad things are and it's impossible to actually meaningfully talk about because people just pull this "uhh idk what if i want to have fun" nonsense

[real flicker]

plasma deck but with no upside

[strange delta]

sts?

[serene forge]

slay the spire

[terse dock]

Slay the Spire

[strange delta]

Oh slay the spire.

That game.

yeah I died once and never picked it up again.

[serene forge]

in sts people collectively agree when shits awful and can still have fun at the same time, claw and pressure points are some of the most memed cards because they're so bad yet people can still have fun with them while acknowledging they suck

[terse dock]

claw in sts 2 is mad funny

[regal wasp]

Meeooowww!

[terse dock]

Especially if you hit the jackpot

[bronze pollen]

Yo guys can I suggest a game

[compact niche]

Well, i made it to 12 but my run is absolutely screwed now lol

[bronze pollen]

It’s a card game very much like poker

[waxen fable]

u need to use the brain to play this game 🤯 🤯 🤯

[waxen fable]

tbf the game itself is probably way harder

[ancient gyro]

which it is

[serene forge]

you're not wrong

but it's not like ascension 20 is the only difficulty either

[ancient gyro]

win rates are cut by half on the hardest difficulty with the best players piloting the runs

yeah sts has a lot of variety to work with

[bronze pollen]

There’s jokers and it’s a great game

[heavy tendon]

question on spectral cards, can you get multiple of them in a single run without showman?

or is showman the only way for them to come up multiple times?

or does showman only make it so if you are holding the cards they can show up again

[void lintel]

you mean across multiple packs? yeah

[echo owl]

balatro tier list i have 5 gold stakes im not that good please don't be mad (ante 8 gold stake)

[hollow walrus]

wheel polychrome hit

on mime

[hollow walrus]

this is valid

[echo owl]

a lot of my opinions changed since my last list when i only had one gold stake i posted that one here and people were very mad

[hollow walrus]

nvm obelisk kinda ahh

but your the one with 5 gold stakes

[terse vale]

C tier is a whole can of worms but whats wrong with 8ball to make it worse than seance

[crisp perch]

Damn poly brainstorm looks insanely good

[heady narwhal]

i think flowerpot and loyalty card should be higher. they're at least better than baron and idol and bloodstone and showman

[hollow walrus]

bro i was lowkey playing joker poker balala at school and my friend pulled a legendary negative joker

[echo owl]

obelisk is really good but i used to hate it

[echo owl]

seance is more consistent i feel like

[hollow walrus]

it requires diversity

[echo owl]

loyalty card sucks it adds nothing pretty much you'll do the same without it baically

[crisp perch]

Is this based on winning ante 8 or just being good in general

[terse vale]

straight flushes are not consistent

[echo owl]

ante 8 gold stake

[crisp perch]

Cuz I like riff raff a lot

[heavy heron]

is there a reason my wee

[echo owl]

you don't need to get straight flushes

[heavy heron]

gold sticker

[heady narwhal]

it can save your life if you're coming up against a boss that counters you. whereas there are at least four jokers in the game that basically just do nothing ever

[heavy heron]

looks funky on the ankh’d one

[terse vale]

?

[echo owl]

shit i was thinking of the wrong one

[echo owl]

why would baron be worse

[terse vale]

inconsistency final boss

[echo owl]

seance is bad but at least it's decent if you wanna do a straight flush build for whatever reason

[terse vale]

why doesn’t the same apply for 8ball

[echo owl]

honestly for ante 8 id probably move it down to c tier it's only really good in like endless

[serene forge]

this isn't bad but you definitely have a lot to learn

[crisp perch]

I never understood yorick on gold stake doesn’t it take one full ante to get it up 1x?

[echo owl]

i don't like that it's 1 in 4

[echo owl]

this is like master shifu and tai lung

[serene forge]

scales 1.3x per ante by doing basically nothing

[heady narwhal]

loyalty will give you x4 no matter what your build is. on the average build, baron has roughly zero immediate value and requires too much commitment to get anything out of it, especially when you get countered by tons of bosses

[serene forge]

madness scales 1x per ante for reference

[echo owl]

it scales really quickly and you dont gotta do anything

[serene forge]

and madness is already pretty powerful

[echo owl]

it can be good in the later antes if you use tarots and stuff

[echo sphinx]

theres a lot of sleeper builds holy

[echo owl]

wdym

[serene forge]

baron is bad early and requires you to play in a way that gets you killed more often than not in gold stake

and takes a lot of work to even get any use out of it whatsoever

[echo owl]

yeah i agree that i probably shouldve moved baron down to like c

[serene forge]

loyalty card is like a shitty acrobat

[echo sphinx]

economy in general is mostly C tier

[serene forge]

it sucks but it's functional... sometimes

[echo sphinx]

pants below rtb despite being similar

[heady narwhal]

it can never really be good if you're running the average pair build, or even something like 4oak. you have no time to pivot to it later on, and it's too expensive with no immediate value to take early

[serene forge]

also most chip jokers being in c

[echo owl]

you got a good point prolly like low c

i feel like d is too harsh though

[crisp perch]

Speak of the devil n he shalt appear

[echo owl]

id move square up to b tbh

[echo sphinx]

certificate
bull being worse than bootstraps is a take
vagabondo
blackboard

[crisp perch]

Sold merry andy for him 😭

[heady narwhal]

something like stm scores fewer points* late game but it's much better overall because you can afford to take it early

[echo owl]

i don't like vagabond

[echo sphinx]

holeh

[heavy heron]

HOLY

I MEAN TOO MANY OPTIONS

[crisp perch]

Uh what do u even take 😭

[serene forge]

steel blue seal

[crisp perch]

But the wee value

[ancient gyro]

moment

[serene forge]

you're not wrong

[echo sphinx]

steel blue hmm

[serene forge]

that's actually insane

2 blue seals and the other good ones are 2s

[echo sphinx]

red seal 2 is also a thing

[echo owl]

how often should i buy standard packs or like when

[echo sphinx]

i would pick red seal 2 ngl

[knotty zodiac]

tfw blue is really a scaling joker

[echo owl]

i pretty much never buy them unless i have hologram or red card

[heavy heron]

nahhhhh i don’t need planets if i got wee for chips

[ancient gyro]

whenever you're at interest cap

[echo sphinx]

same thinking

[tribal bramble]

depends on what you are going for but i typically go for blue and purple seals early on

[echo owl]

alright

[echo owl]

i like blue seals

[echo sphinx]

red seal gold 2 @heavy heron

lets go retriggers

[tribal bramble]

yeah good for scaling throughout early antes

[echo sphinx]

i bless you with a Hack and then Blueprint

[crisp perch]

Ye it got me to like +20 4oak that run

We love blue seals 🩵

Btw I did not realize rebate was that cracked

[echo owl]

is it bad that i don't have c+ at 80 hours

[crisp perch]

It’s literally a 100% win button

[heavy heron]

say less

[echo sphinx]

MMMMMMMMMM

[serene forge]

nah

play at your own pace

[echo owl]

i technically have 120 hours but i lost my save around 40 hours

[crisp perch]

Can u check hours on mobile

[echo sphinx]

nope

[serene forge]

my favorite scaling joker is seltzer

[echo owl]

balatro tier list revised (ante 8 gold stake)

[serene forge]

blackboard up

[ancient gyro]

i prefer my list

[crisp perch]

If not I’m at 120 wins on my final stake before c+

[echo sphinx]

should probably like

play the game with the jokers

[crisp perch]

Gotta put rebate up he’s CRAZY

[echo owl]

eh

[echo sphinx]

the way i do it i put the jokers in a different category "maybe a sleeper pick"

[echo owl]

is this like a sarcastic comment or genuine

[echo sphinx]

for the placement this chat disagreees with

[echo sphinx]

genuine

[echo owl]

i considered moving him up to high B

[echo owl]

oh ok

[echo sphinx]

the only way to find out is to play them yourself

[tribal bramble]

i prefer rebate > rocket but its pretty solid list also i think photo and michel could be higher'

[ancient gyro]

no

[echo sphinx]

wdym no

[echo owl]

reception is significantly better than my last list

[crisp perch]

What’s the best deck for C++ btw

[ancient gyro]

blue

[echo owl]

this was my old tier list when i only had 1 gold stake this was kinda bad ngl

[serene forge]

i'm serious

in most games it is literally just a cavendish

it's very easy to proc

[crisp perch]

Not anaglyph to get negative skips?

[serene forge]

that doesn't work

once you're past like 50 stickers

you will get stickers faster by playing an actual good deck

[dark lava]

JokerPokerBalala

[ancient gyro]

performance is not consistent as runs go forth

[serene forge]

and winning more

[echo sphinx]

bit sus

[tribal bramble]

parendolia is so high lol

[crisp perch]

Gotcha

[echo sphinx]

this was my first tierlist in comparison

[serene forge]

i wonder if i have any of my old tierlists

[echo sphinx]

its kinda lmao

[echo owl]

actually it wasn't like horrible but i disagree with a lot of it

[echo owl]

maybe i gotta try using it i never use it really

[ancient gyro]

mines prob the most polished from what I've seen

[serene forge]

this is an old list of how much i appreciate different jonklers

[tribal bramble]

10/10 list no change needed

[dark lava]

if matador has zero fans i am alive and well

[crisp perch]

I haven’t done a bus run in forever

Lemme try one

[ancient gyro]

no comment

[echo owl]

https://giphy.com/gifs/flightreacts-alextekah-roloroll-yasK38fdvOi6IR1gbn

[dark lava]

why do you hate bloodstone so much

[tribal bramble]

i am a fan if its rental and the next boss is the plant and im running all king build

[bronze pollen]

Why is yorick not in f tier

[dark lava]

scaling xmult saves lives

[serene forge]

this was from 10 months ago ok

[ancient gyro]

10 months ago 💔

[echo owl]

blue joker tweaking

[dark lava]

10 months ago 💔

[serene forge]

im hungy

[bronze pollen]

Photo and dna so low

[serene forge]

if i remade the list photo would go 3 tiers lower

[dark lava]

clearly you arent roffle

photochad to the grave

[serene forge]

roffle is a nanelet

[bronze pollen]

Technically every joker is good with the right setup

[ancient gyro]

no value statement

[serene forge]

enlightened centrism

[dark lava]

name one thing that synergizes with matador

[ancient gyro]

burger

[serene forge]

brain

[echo sphinx]

reading comprehension

[bronze pollen]

This on gold deck is great

[serene forge]

balatrowiki.org synergizes with matador

[flat tiger]

that one time I get 4 hands of pairs all triggering a debuff clubs

[ancient gyro]

worst joker that synergizes with matador is probably splash

[heavy heron]

no NO MY WINNING HAND WAS A PAIR NOOOOOOO

NOOOO

i’ve become one of them…

[echo sphinx]

me when uhhhh

is ok

u win

[heavy heron]

shudders

[echo owl]

loyalty card burgular synergy

[bronze pollen]

Cartomancer is good with fortune teller

[dark lava]

#1495981655079522324 rate the idea

[flat tiger]

this has to be the biggest free win in the history of all free wins

[crisp perch]

Erratic gotta be one of the most boring decks

[dark lava]

im not touching that deck with a 10 foot pole

[heavy heron]

okay to be fair how is this even possible like this should’ve been winning hand

[echo sphinx]

sus lol

[heavy heron]

my lucky cards are broken