🕹・game-discussion

[knotty zodiac]

hex next

[ancient gyro]

spectral

[stone shell]

can we get a video demo

[frail brook]

Indeed i am

[echo sphinx]

GAMBAAAA

[cloud sinew]

describe in more detail what happens, ideally just record it

[zinc sigil]

You dont take the handsize?

[knotty zodiac]

good, sorry had to dip but cool to see that you crushsed that run

[frail brook]

I am a normie

[zinc sigil]

Heh what did u expect

[stone shell]

flashbacks to me crashing 200 mults worth of buses

[gaunt burrow]

damn you really hate spectral deck huh?

[ancient gyro]

your advice led him to a stressful road

[knotty zodiac]

i like interest and saving for econ/chip here

[zinc sigil]

I see

[knotty zodiac]

what did i do?!

[ancient gyro]

i like spectral gimmicks

[zinc sigil]

I like to live a bit dangerous

[echo sphinx]

lets go gamblingg

[zinc sigil]

Do you guys value blue or gold seal more

[knotty zodiac]

blue

[ancient gyro]

were you the one that told him how to play rtb ending with a 5 card hand

[cloud sinew]

blue

gold isn't even close

[echo sphinx]

is there an ankh

[ancient gyro]

blue > purple > gold >> red

[zinc sigil]

No..

[echo sphinx]

oh right its small

blue ig

[zinc sigil]

I see

[stone shell]

blueseal 99 times over 100

[knotty zodiac]

i told him that he should use as few hc/2p as possible after starting obby scaling

[gaunt burrow]

red is really situational

[stone shell]

the 1 is when i feel like doing a funny

[gaunt burrow]

the one is baron

[echo sphinx]

red seal isnt terrible

i would rank it equal to gold

[stone shell]

gold seal on a baron run 🥀

[ancient gyro]

gold does something on its own

[stone shell]

blueseal is STILL better bc of pluto btw

[ancient gyro]

red doesn't without a secondary effect

[cloud sinew]

blue is S, purple is A, gold is B, red is C
-# obviously imo

[gaunt burrow]

i thought you talking about seal in general😭

[knotty zodiac]

you have two blue and no gold, do you take blue or gold next?

[stone shell]

seals in generaly is more like

95/100

[cloud sinew]

blue

[stone shell]

purple seal dents it so little

[knotty zodiac]

wow

[zinc sigil]

The game really wants me to hex grimbo

Chad again

[ancient gyro]

blue

[gaunt burrow]

jst hex the thing

[stone shell]

hex and flag

[knotty zodiac]

why not hex the grimbo? youre probably not selling it

[cloud sinew]

better odds of getting 1 planet a round, and WAY better odds of getting 2 planets a round

[zinc sigil]

Cause succulentsupplecheeks wants me to sell hex

[ancient gyro]

I told them a reason not to

[zinc sigil]

I dont wanna be in your hex sell cult

[ancient gyro]

I never said that

[echo sphinx]

fair however this is balatro
theres at least 10 enhancements that work with it and makes it a good death target (tho blue still better)

[zinc sigil]

[ancient gyro]

I just said hold it

[stone shell]

speaking of blueseal has there been any discussions for good ways to nerf it decently

[gaunt burrow]

orange seal: it jst red mixed with gold seal

[cloud sinew]

there arent even 10 enhancements

[zinc sigil]

Im jk

[ancient gyro]

o

[echo sphinx]

bruh

[zinc sigil]

Im a lil silly since I changed my name.

[ancient gyro]

10?

[echo sphinx]

just lemme gold or stone it cmon

(when i initially wrote it i also included jokers howver i think joker is a bit hmm)

[zinc sigil]

Grimbo looks like a spider

?

[ancient gyro]

change it back

[zinc sigil]

Why

[gaunt burrow]

10 on the next update trust

[stone shell]

we have bonus mult glass steel gold lucky stone and uh

[ancient gyro]

it rubs me the wrong way

[stone shell]

was there an 8th or is that just normal in the enhancements page

[cloud sinew]

there are 8, 7 of which "work" with red seal

[zinc sigil]

Alright..

[echo sphinx]

think thats it lol

[cloud sinew]

wild

[stone shell]

ah that dumbass

[brave goblet]

Partners in crime

[gaunt burrow]

so 9 in total , if we count normal card

[stone shell]

okay no sorry wildcard youre not dumb

[knotty zodiac]

not your fault. lovers is the worst lols

[stone shell]

just weak

[echo sphinx]

mult is probably the worst off cuz blue seal is so friggin strong lol

[brave goblet]

lovers and flush are so weak cause of ancient joker

[cloud sinew]

a base card does not count as an enhancement for drivers license or vampire, so no.

[hoary moon]

baseball for 1 joker

[stone shell]

mult and bonus have their uses imo

[ancient gyro]

mult has an early game niche

[zinc sigil]

Is immolate like hermit

[gaunt burrow]

8 in total

[brave goblet]

family came from a judgment after I sold acrobat

[zinc sigil]

You always do it

[gaunt burrow]

2 more in the next update

[hoary moon]

hmmhmhmhmh

[stone shell]

i find myself using mult cards if i need earlygame support

[ancient gyro]

pretty much

[stone shell]

immolate

[zinc sigil]

Or do you take purple seal

[knotty zodiac]

if you draw your only blue seal and aren't in desperate need of money, don't risk it. but ya 90% of the time burn away

[echo sphinx]

yeah

[ocean plover]

whrat

blueprint

[patent sail]

except even better

[cloud sinew]

immolate 100%

[stone shell]

purple seal is NOT worth it here

[zinc sigil]

Can anyone explain why,

[ocean plover]

wrathh

[echo sphinx]

i think hermit is not the default tarot take like how immolate is for spectral

[patent sail]

20 dollars no matter how much you got rn AND free deckfixing

[versed sable]

a lot of what you'd look for with purple seal is
deckfixing and money
immo does both, right now

[echo sphinx]

BURN IT ALLLL

[cloud sinew]

-5 cards and +$20 is going to take a very long time to be matched by purple seal

[zinc sigil]

But I dont choose my deckfixing right

[gaunt burrow]

bro a steal card in disguised

[zinc sigil]

I see

[knotty zodiac]

-5 cards makes your deck better. when you get a seal, you're much more likely to draw it

[ocean plover]

who the fuck willingly destroys card

[echo sphinx]

burn 5 useless cards (good) and get $20 (good)

[ocean plover]

s

[cloud sinew]

you dont, but your cards dont matter right now. removing 5 cards is very good for you no matter what cards they are

[patent sail]

generally if you drew MOSTLY garbage it doesnt matter, -5 garbage cards no matter what they are is free

[ancient gyro]

2 stronger tarot card benefits in one spectral, two of the strongest tarots at that

[zinc sigil]

Wait I dont want a purple seal anyway I dont want to discard with these jokers

[stone shell]

you lose delayed grat value and remove mult and chips from green joker and banner respectively here

[gaunt burrow]

it could be a blueprint

[ancient gyro]

you can still discard with grimbo after a couple of antes worth of scaling

[brave goblet]

best it can do is invisible

[cloud sinew]

-$46 for a chance at blueprint

[zinc sigil]

Lil devil on my shoulder pov

[cloud sinew]

no thanks

[zinc sigil]

Thanks

[patent sail]

immolate any day

light em up

[cloud sinew]

immolate every day

[stone shell]

my dumbass ripping wraith at $100+ (it hits brainstorm (the run was already winning))

[patent sail]

yes, even on tuesday

[cloud sinew]

every day that ends in day is an immolate day

[knotty zodiac]

immo needs a nerf x)

[patent sail]

we dont talk about what happens if you immolate on tuesday

[zinc sigil]

Would u take 4oak cause high card already oneshots so does twopair

Just think about lategame

[ancient gyro]

sure

[zinc sigil]

So I can scale more

Right

[echo sphinx]

sure

[cloud sinew]

i dont think it needs one, but it does deserve one.
ouija definitely needs a buff

[stone shell]

lowk with jokers like those i would consider just not opening planet packs to begin with

[gaunt burrow]

there arent that many rare joker right?

[cloud sinew]

there are 20

[zinc sigil]

Yea makes sense

[ancient gyro]

4oak is practically the "late game" hand

[hoary moon]

immolate is better than soul card

[patent sail]

also hex should just have the downside removed completely

[gaunt burrow]

the same chance as lucky card 20$

[cloud sinew]

no. lucky $20 is 1/15

[patent sail]

why does it nuke all your shit for just X1.5

[stone shell]

perkeo into immolate copies ❤️‍🩹

[echo sphinx]

hex should remove 2 cards not friggin all of them

[frank grove]

i kinda wish hex was like aura but for jokers

[gaunt burrow]

a little off

[hoary moon]

or make it less harmful

[patent sail]

IKR

THAT WOULD BE MORE FUN

[echo sphinx]

actually fire

[patent sail]

why does it have to nuke everything

[hoary moon]

works in 1 deck or 1 of 600 runs

[patent sail]

its not even that good

[echo sphinx]

actually why is aura so weak

should hit 2 cards om

[knotty zodiac]

aura is pretty decent with chad

[hoary moon]

turns 1 joker into polychrome destroys another one

[ancient gyro]

why

[stone shell]

because spectrals need a gimme option/hj

well the seals exist but like

[cloud sinew]

there are plenty

[hoary moon]

turns 1 joker polychrome -10$

[knotty zodiac]

gimmes are kinda boring. tradeoffs are fun

[zinc sigil]

Its staring at me LMAOO but I alr have a mult joker no so I dont need it

[stone shell]

asides seals and aura what other spectrals do that

[patent sail]

nuking my entire setup for X1.5? no thanks

and if its only useful when you have just 1 joker aka first 2 or so antes - what even is the point of it?

[stone shell]

well i guess immolate

[ancient gyro]

too free, tradeoffs incentivize more thinking

[cloud sinew]

sigil, cryptid

[hoary moon]

hex is useless

[ancient gyro]

eternals, early game, ghost gimmick, thinking incentive

[patent sail]

not entirely useless, but 99% of the time it sure is

[hoary moon]

theres a spectral card that deck fixes and then gives you 20$

[ancient gyro]

rebate situation

[echo sphinx]

hex so bad it needs Eternal tag just to become remotely usable

[hoary moon]

0 uses outside of ghost deck

[stone shell]

ehhh i sometimes dont like ripping sigil on a run with already some direction and cryptid ends up usually being a kinda-whiff by not copying an especially good card

[patent sail]

but is that really worth the X1.5

[ancient gyro]

sometimes it is

[stone shell]

like i would get more luckies but i can hear arguements for just

not cryptiding

[heavy heron]

i think hex should delete only 1 other random joker

[hoary moon]

🤓 b-b-but what about eternals

[gaunt burrow]

madness or smt

[ancient gyro]

multiple x mults have exponential scoring effects

[green apex]

synergy

burglar delgrat

[cloud sinew]

well yes. that's why you shouldnt make absolute statements like that if you don't actually mean them to be absolutes

[knotty zodiac]

ooh i like this. makes it somewhat usable midgame+

[stone shell]

ante 2-3 hex is takable in some scenarios

other than that yeah its kinda cooked

[patent sail]

i think regardless hex is way too weak, it either needs a less punishing downside or none at all

[gaunt burrow]

you cant even use discard so thats mean delayed would active every round!

[zinc sigil]

@ancient gyro back to back shops

[hoary moon]

you get to use it in like 1 of a 1000 runs

[zinc sigil]

Ptsd triggering

[heavy heron]

yeah that polychrome isn’t that big of a deal and it’s entirely not usable past ante 4

[cloud sinew]

+$0

[echo sphinx]

holy

[knotty zodiac]

the game remembers

[zinc sigil]

It wants me to remember

[hoary moon]

if you have an abysmal start maybe

[patent sail]

thats essentially what i said, its only viable use is somehow finding one very early on (and ghost deck i guess)

[cloud sinew]

i think i get use out of it in every 3rd run that it turns up in

[knotty zodiac]

did you take obby?

[zinc sigil]

I can take obby scale pairs and and play hc later no

[stone shell]

well, it does activate

[knotty zodiac]

yep

[stone shell]

he isnt wrong

[zinc sigil]

Or play hc cause hc is forced?

What is smarter

[knotty zodiac]

same gameplan but i think this time you are less in danger so youll have more buffer

[stone shell]

checks pronouns
phew its correct

[knotty zodiac]

don't stack hc for obby

[cloud sinew]

high cards as your highest is a very bad idea with obelisk

[zinc sigil]

Its also red stake so who cares

[stone shell]

for obelisk stacking pairs is the best bet

[cloud sinew]

high cards are very easy to be forced to play, you should do pairs+ as your highest

[zinc sigil]

I thought hc is the only hand that can be forced

[ancient gyro]

sure, I wouldn't try to only play hc, just when I need to

that's the problem

[cloud sinew]

it isnt, it just happens to be the hand that gets forced the most often

[gaunt burrow]

par would be good

[ancient gyro]

you can be forced to reset it

[zinc sigil]

Ohhh I need to look at it from the other way

[stone shell]

usually on obelisk runs i stack up a large hand like straights, flushes or sometimes full house :P

[patent sail]

better downside would be either what you suggested, or maybe just money punishment? like -$10 maybe idk

[stone shell]

maybe im playing badly though

[patent sail]

flushes for me ✅✅✅✅✅

[cloud sinew]

-$10 isn't enough of a downside for what it is imo

[knotty zodiac]

stacking pairs is prolly most straightforward

[cloud sinew]

that's free for most of the game

[zinc sigil]

I dont want to discard with these jokers so Im kinda forced

[hoary moon]

great minds think alike

[gaunt burrow]

half your money would be good

[stone shell]

do pairs if you can

[zinc sigil]

Will try

[hoary moon]

have you even taken a look at other spectrals

[ancient gyro]

money is trivial mid/late game

[hoary moon]

like having a polychrome aint even that broken

[stone shell]

make hex half your money idfk

[patent sail]

well that was more of an example, if a change was to be made the real cost would be calibrated better, but i hope you can still agree that current version of it is

why does it do that

[ancient gyro]

😐

[zinc sigil]

@knotty zodiac i just played a pair of queens and my heart sank cause I thought I fucked up rtb LOOOOOL

[ancient gyro]

prtbsd

[gaunt burrow]

true?

[zinc sigil]

Lmao

[stone shell]

polychrome is a nice addon not a gamechanger

[knotty zodiac]

oof thats quite a feeling

[patent sail]

it can absolutely save your run, but if you REALLY need that X1.5, Hex nuking your entire setup is probably gonna cause more issues than its gonna solve problems 😭

[frank grove]

also a lot of the time i roll down to find tarots to bring into spectral packs so hex being half your money probably wouldnt be that impactful anyway

[stone shell]

idek why it has the same downside as ankh

maybe thunk just wanted 20 base spectrals and copy pasted ankhs code and changed it a little

[zinc sigil]

No but the game knows???

Like wtf

[frank grove]

well given there are only 18

[green apex]

i dont kill chicot right

[zinc sigil]

Wait I should move grimbo to the left to scale more right

Im stupid

[echo sphinx]

nah

[green apex]

yeah figured

[stone shell]

i swear to jimbo there was 20 base spectrals

[cloud sinew]

nah

[stone shell]

am i misremembering the spectrals tab

[knotty zodiac]

ya also stack your decoy hand

[stone shell]

welp

[stone shell]

i guess jimbo is dead

[ancient gyro]

hex and ankh shouldn't be a spectral you use multiple times, it removes the scarcity of conditional x mult sources

[zinc sigil]

Yup

[hoary moon]

having a negative is way more op and its drawback is better than nuking your setup

[gaunt burrow]

i would like to have more card have texture like soul

[ancient gyro]

no it isn't lol

[stone shell]

to be fair soul is super special

[hoary moon]

whats not

[ancient gyro]

ecto in gs is notoriously known to be mid to terrible on average

[stone shell]

in a vacuum -1 hs is more managable than hex

[cloud sinew]

making one of your jokers negative for -1 handsize isnt overpowered at all

[hoary moon]

aint pairslop the meta

[knotty zodiac]

ecto gsa8 is "i won, gimme 1 more sticker"

[stone shell]

ectoplasm is bad in general, but its good compared to hex

end of discussion

[cloud sinew]

handsize is still a very important resource even in lobotomy

[ancient gyro]

lowering your discarding power isnt

meta

[frank grove]

yeah but you dont need more jokers to beat gs ante 8 so ecto is basically useless outside of getting more stickers

[gaunt burrow]

????

[patent sail]

to be honest if its the first ecto of the run you better know im gambling that shit (and dying due to not drawing my steel or something, but not learning anything)

[gaunt burrow]

aint you want to have space for blue seal

[stone shell]

what if i wanted to feel like painted deck has no downsides

[frank grove]

painted is the only deck where ecto on gs makes sense actually

[hoary moon]

guys what is vcruntime140.dll

[open gale]

😭

[hoary moon]

balatro question

[echo sphinx]

even in lobotomy, its a good idea to keep blue seal and gold cards in hand

[cloud sinew]

and lower handsize means you are worse at discarding, so you cant see as much of your deck

[gaunt burrow]

ecto is good in a 5oak run where you jst have a bunch of the card alr

[patent sail]

probably a dll that does things

[heavy heron]

i always thought about that -$10 punishment.. it’s interesting

[hoary moon]

yh true

[hoary moon]

where is it

[gaunt burrow]

yeah

[patent sail]

somewhere on your computer maybe idk

[ancient gyro]

nothing burger punishment reaching midgame

[hoary moon]

i need it to run balatro

[heavy heron]

or an everything burger punishment

[knotty zodiac]

reset money to $0 prob makes more sense for money punishment

[heavy heron]

ok fine $20 what do you want from me

[gaunt burrow]

jst destroy a joker atp

[stone shell]

if hex ever gets a drawback change i think halving your money is the best call

[ancient gyro]

hex isn't something that should be used multiple times

[open gale]

Google it and download it

[hoary moon]

thats why im saying

[heavy heron]

ok so destroy a joker

probably

[hoary moon]

hmm alr

[stone shell]

maybe extend that to wraith but im fine keeping wraith at $0

[gaunt burrow]

thats almost spectral card tbh

[ancient gyro]

huh

[frank grove]

what

[echo sphinx]

wraith should open a jumbo buffoon pack with all rares

[stone shell]

endlesspilled users spamming 30 cryptids an ante just to survive

[heavy heron]

the rarity in itself prevents it from being used multiple times anyway

[cloud sinew]

i dont agree

[ancient gyro]

hex is unconditional scoring

its effects are at least

[gaunt burrow]

almost is sound enough

[heavy heron]

at the cost of a joker or two, presumably

[ancient gyro]

that's pretty valuable

[frank grove]

like half of the spectrals im using multiple times in a run if i can

[heavy heron]

yall make it sound like you’re finding the same spectral card more than once a run

[patent sail]

like even if you got perkeo is hex REALLY what you wanna copy up

[green apex]

YES CHICOT

[ancient gyro]

in the course of a c++ run that changes

[heavy heron]

copying hex w perkeo is funny

[stone shell]

someone doesnt believe in seance/j

[green apex]

and yellow deck done

[hoary moon]

do i place it in balatro folder directly?

[zinc sigil]

When do you use ecto

[green apex]

so that marks 5/idfk how many decks completed

[heavy heron]

you’re right… that’s my fault

i’m not a strusher believer

[cloud sinew]

youre not at black stake yet, so you basically dont

[knotty zodiac]

what if it's 1 in 4 chance of destroying all your jokers

[echo sphinx]

probably not here

with obelisk

[stone shell]

give me a minute i need to find my triple seance run

[heavy heron]

UHHHHH i think id rather it just destroy 1 because

okay though that sounds fun

[zinc sigil]

Right I need the handsize

[open gale]

I’ll dm you

[ancient gyro]

ideally never

[heavy heron]

it’s like the opposite of wheel

[hoary moon]

he has merry adny tho

[stone shell]

my bad its triple shortcut but this is still one of my sillier runs

[hoary moon]

no drawback

[frank grove]

andy already is -1 hand size

[echo sphinx]

lol

[ancient gyro]

and?

[gaunt burrow]

you have merry alr , no need for another minus handsize

[cloud sinew]

how does merry andy mean that there is no drawback

[heavy heron]

without the 2nd and 3rd shortcut, you’d be dead!

[hoary moon]

isnt discarding the big problem yall were talking about

[echo sphinx]

you do know the drawback stacks right

[open gale]

I dmed you.

[patent sail]

what the FUCK were you doing here 😭

[gaunt burrow]

does it even do anything😭

[zinc sigil]

Okay

[ancient gyro]

do you know how andrew works

[green apex]

nope, imagine if it did though

[cloud sinew]

yes but it's not just about the "discard" count, it's about how many cards you can keep and play/discard

[stone shell]

i wanted to conduct a seance

[frank grove]

yeah -2 hand size for an extra 3 discards if they used the ecto doesnt really balance stuff, you wont be able to discard 5 cards at a time if you're looking for a 2 pair to scale obelisk for example

[gaunt burrow]

tripple jump between straight

[stone shell]

also it was purple stake so i had less of an incentive for me to win

[gaunt burrow]

who is andrew bro

[patent sail]

i guess you could even say that its requirement is so hard to meet that you had to take a shortcut or two

[cloud sinew]

merry andy

[ancient gyro]

why make my discarding power worse with an already existing gimmick that still works on its own

[hoary moon]

mmm

[stone shell]

or three

(if anyone is curious i eventually found a soul that had perkeo inside but died to water before i could set him up)

[gaunt burrow]

😭 why

[heavy heron]

let’s say i have a gold card, blue seal, and i want a flush (i have 4 of the same suit already)… if my hand size is 8 i can only dig 2 cards deeper per discard

with merry andy that becomes 1 card at a time

[frank grove]

like you can only discard 2-3 cards at a time if you want to hold stuff in your hand and find stuff making drawing cards much much harder

[ancient gyro]

zee

[cloud sinew]

andy can be short for andrew

[ancient gyro]

now I know my abcs

not to be confused with my actual name

[zinc sigil]

When do I start scaling obby

LOL

Im kinda late

[frank grove]

whats your hands looking like

[gaunt burrow]

10 or 13 hand played should be enough

[stone shell]

depends on the scoring

[knotty zodiac]

with merry andy and a bit of deckfixing i find that im much more willing to let go of stuff if i have multiple copies bc i know they'll come back

[ancient gyro]

i recommend newer players at 14 for most normal setups

or ante 5

[gaunt burrow]

do it man

[frank grove]

yeah its scaling time!

[zinc sigil]

I fucked up I forgot about it

Lmao

[stone shell]

ideally start an ante before the one thats near your scoring requirements

[heavy heron]

yea.. to be honest i always skip merry like 99% of cases

[ancient gyro]

you're still fine

[green apex]

yeah, straights would be free

[zinc sigil]

I dont even need it , this is just for practice purposes

I think I win regardless

[stone shell]

my merry andy sticker was just a purple seal snowball run iirc

[ancient gyro]

generally if ik I'll need xmult in the next ante, I start scaling it

[stone shell]

very fun run

[zinc sigil]

Kk

[ancient gyro]

but can't hurt to look at prerequisites

[knotty zodiac]

yes it's so fun when you have 5+ purple seals

[gaunt burrow]

you can make a straight go from Ace and ended at ace lol

[cloud sinew]

how would you feel about merry andy being +3 discards -1 hands

[heavy heron]

that sounds amazing

[cloud sinew]

so it actually fits the niche it seems like it was meant for

[heavy heron]

although i might be biased because i go for 1 shot hands

[stone shell]

try 21

[turbid nova]

This sounds peak ngl

[heavy heron]

i mean thays like…. +10 card digging

that’s insane

[turbid nova]

Andy is still good tho

[ancient gyro]

14 is mostly the baseline, second most played hand also plays into factors. ante also plays since id like to scale it somewhere in the mid game antes 5 or 6

[brave goblet]

-1 hand is one less chance to get that one shot hand you know?

[knotty zodiac]

ya it really goes viral as you stack deaths

[echo sphinx]

bit worse or better sometimes but still take

[heavy heron]

of course but now i got 3 more shots

[cloud sinew]

-1 handsize is a bigger downside for higher hands than -1 hands is

[knotty zodiac]

21 is pretty dreamy

[ancient gyro]

1.1.0 blue stake the joker

[stone shell]

iirc the deaths in that run were pretty shy until ante um

sorry for this but ante 6 or 7

[zinc sigil]

Okay I‘ll try to remember

[knotty zodiac]

theyre bound to show up when you have 5 discards and piles of seals

[zinc sigil]

This isnt a bad idea right for banner

[gaunt burrow]

67

[ancient gyro]

obelisk also indirectly encourages you to deck fix for higher ranking poker hands

[zinc sigil]

Forgot one

[cloud sinew]

it would be significantly better for higher hands, which is what the meta should shift towards

[stone shell]

nice start but why have a purple seal

[cloud sinew]

was probably better than skipping

[zinc sigil]

I was told later on I could discard

[ancient gyro]

prob not with andrew/delgrat

[zinc sigil]

Okay

[cloud sinew]

delgrat should go soon anyway

[ancient gyro]

andrew forces more hc on average

[stone shell]

they already grimbo and banner without finding any purples early on :P

[ancient gyro]

but I'll say take it for later

[stone shell]

ah right i didnt realize that was spectral deck

probably found a medium

[zinc sigil]

Okay

For banner tho right

[ancient gyro]

i don't think andrew/banner/delgrat will be a long term build

im thinking that or delgrat

[stone shell]

this is a lot more thematic than what it is right now

[ancient gyro]

you'll need to discard soon

[knotty zodiac]

gotta run again. good luck on this obby redux run mamo

[stone shell]

sell the delgrat if ever since money doesnt have as much of an impact anymore

[zinc sigil]

Take care

[cloud sinew]

how would people feel about drunkard being changed to +1 hands, if blue stake was reworked to +1 discards -1 hands

[stone shell]

obviously it still cooks but youre not as attached

[zinc sigil]

Hnm

Makes sense

[stone shell]

i really dislike it still

[ancient gyro]

that'll be

odd

[stone shell]

feels distasteful to me

[zinc sigil]

Selling econ feels bad

[cloud sinew]

why

[knotty zodiac]

weird thematically

[gaunt burrow]

todd

[echo sphinx]

feels fucked

[stone shell]

give blue when red boi

[cloud sinew]

so just make it blue

[ancient gyro]

+1 hand sounds too luxurious on paper

[stone shell]

but then thatd be so weird

[slow iris]

no just no

[gaunt burrow]

should change the name too

[cloud sinew]

can people actually give criticisms instead of just disagreeing

[slow iris]

black deck stake

[cloud sinew]

because if you cant explain why you feel that way then it's just annoying, that's not good feedback

[ancient gyro]

gold

[gaunt burrow]

good on other stake , but black deck with 2 hands is not good

[cloud sinew]

4 discards 2 hands

[ancient gyro]

black deck with -1 discard was already offered as the alternative

[slow iris]

i don't like the whole idea that's all i really have to say

[cloud sinew]

that is not new information

youre just rewording your disagreement instead of expanding on it

[gaunt burrow]

kind of fine i guess

[vocal warren]

so uh, i lost my gold stickers somehow on some of my jokers??
any idea why

[shell dagger]

yeah

[slow iris]

yeah because i don't have anything else to say about it

ykyk

[gaunt burrow]

yorick is the only joke that scale with discard on positive side right?

[brave goblet]

[cloud sinew]

castle

hit the road

[slow iris]

was kinda hungry tbh

[vocal warren]

i knew it.

honestly, its really annoying, i am grinding Completionist++, and seeing i lost my 2 gold stickers on my legendaries, i want to know why it happened before i continue

[gaunt burrow]

castle yes but i wouldnt count hit the road bc it reset at the end of the round

[ancient gyro]

classic mobile gimmick

randomly happens

[zinc sigil]

What would be the smartest way to play this when I play 4oak

[cloud sinew]

i dont really agree. if you don't count hit the road as discarding positively because it resets, then do you not count campfire as scaling positively from selling because it resets?

[echo sphinx]

3oak for something

probably delayed grat?

[gaunt burrow]

...yeah

[zinc sigil]

I sell delgrat for 3x and then I discard with andy for 4oak and then sell andy and play my hand?

Solid plan no

[ancient gyro]

trio for delgrat, don't sell anything upon boss blind if you don't need to

[cloud sinew]

that just feels silly because that's their sole purpose; discarding jacks to get xmult, and selling cards to get xmult.

[zinc sigil]

All card debuffed until joker sold tho

[echo sphinx]

your scoring lineup is mostly unaffected by the showdown blind, you can keep the merry andy for the second 4oak if need be. somehow.

[gaunt burrow]

i should change to permanently tbh

[cloud sinew]

you dont need cards to be undebuffed though

[zinc sigil]

Ohhh

Yea

Im dumb

[echo sphinx]

is ok we learn

[zinc sigil]

Sorry

[ancient gyro]

oh no my obyliks what will I do with him and my x12 mult

[cloud sinew]

i used stone cards with matador today and i feel pretty good about it

[ancient gyro]

it's such a tragedy

[cloud sinew]

using a niche tech to my advantage

[zinc sigil]

Stop it lmao

[gaunt burrow]

?

[zinc sigil]

I learn with sarcasm the most though

[ancient gyro]

sure u do

[zinc sigil]

Here we go

[ancient gyro]

i still think hiker pillar tech should be a thing

[zinc sigil]

Yea I didnt need to sell who woulda thought

[ancient gyro]

verdant fraud

[zinc sigil]

Idk why I was so scared of that boss ur absolutely right

[cloud sinew]

stones always "score" even if theyre debuffed, so you can put stone on a card that's debuffed that otherwise wouldnt "score" (i.e against leaf or plant) to get money

[waxen fable]

game too easy

[gaunt burrow]

that news for me

the leaf wouldnt affect you most of the time

[cloud sinew]

i would consider it a bug because stone cards have the implicit ability to always score, and debuffs disable card effects

[atomic trout]

Aaaahh

I knew I shouldn't skip.

[zinc sigil]

Wdym you knew

[brave goblet]

Photochad at home

[zinc sigil]

You played 6 rounds in 6 antes

[atomic trout]

Not enough skips

[zinc sigil]

😭

[atomic trout]

Trying the Speedrun of 8 rounds

[zinc sigil]

That only works on plasma right

[ancient gyro]

it works on other decks

[waxen fable]

genius

[ancient gyro]

he's just doing it for no reason

[atomic trout]

If it allows me to win

[atomic trout]

You're right.

It's a challenge.

[ancient gyro]

see what I mean

[cloud sinew]

okay time to do black deck...

thy will be done

this is bullying

[ancient gyro]

:P

[cloud sinew]

i think i have to take bones

ive played 2/4 aces in my deck

and the boss is pillar

im gonna go apeshit

[ancient gyro]

i wonder if pillar or psychic is worse on black deck

[echo sphinx]

strongest skip ever

[cloud sinew]

the run might be okay

AAAAAH

[brave goblet]

Rip lol, so close

[finite heron]

Where is the chad

[cloud sinew]

black deck makes me feel empty

[finite heron]

Wrong

Person

[brave goblet]

wrong pic for the first one, I was trying to do the 8 round speedrun for fun lol

[finite heron]

Mb

[cloud sinew]

I CANT AFFORD IT

golden joker in the buffoon though

sold scholar for the pack

[zinc sigil]

Why did it jump from 7 million to 300 million 😭

Wtf

[brave goblet]

endless moment

[cloud sinew]

endless does that

[echo sphinx]

endless moment

[cloud sinew]

its so over

[echo sphinx]

rip

[solar meteor]

blop

[frank grove]

🔥

[mystic sedge]

Do i replace something with blood stone? I'm think dusk or face card

[brave goblet]

no

[cloud sinew]

replace photograph

[brave goblet]

oh yeah that

inb4 bloodstone sleeps

[cloud sinew]

1.25^25 is better than 2^8

[frank grove]

theyre really close though

[cloud sinew]

wait

2^8 isnt even right

[brave goblet]

GODDAMMIT

[cloud sinew]

it's 1.25^25 vs 2^5

[mystic sedge]

Thanks

[brave goblet]

Cursed

[echo sphinx]

do i take

my hands so cooked

[pallid galleon]

im lowkey thinking about dropping flower and splash for seeing double and obelisk but i dont have the full context

[tardy spade]

Why is this the second shop 1 editioned blueprint I've not been able to take today?

[pallid galleon]

yeah that pmo

foil blueprint looks pretty tho

[primal heath]

credit card in the buffoon pack

[hidden bear]

big heckin egg

[fading dome]

the fandom wiki at balatrogame.fandom.com or balatrowiki.org?

[pallid galleon]

shi i wouldn't have thought of that

shop 1 credit card is goated

[brave goblet]

And again

[viral raft]

Treasure vs treasure

Imo riff raff just because of the early game

[iron vigil]

brainstorm you can get through ante 1 without jokers most of the time

actually always sorry

and its plasma deck so its even easier

[viral raft]

Yeah but riff raff gave me alot of econ to early

[waxen fable]

its plasma though

and its greeeen stake though

[iron vigil]

^^^^

[viral raft]

Yeah this is a easy run

[waxen fable]

ez nanlet

[viral raft]

😭

[waxen fable]

but why are we naneinfing on green stake

be for real

[viral raft]

I'm just c+ again lmao

Not naninf'd it

I'll just take riff raff because is fun

Is green anyways

[waxen fable]

yea

[cloud sinew]

id take riff

[woven hare]

just judgemented a smeared while playing ancient

[pallid galleon]

W

always judgement

[steady hollow]

guys i keep seeing people use the soul in balatro but i cant spwan it can someone help?

[patent sail]

its rare

0.3% to spawn in Arcana/Spectral pack

[steady hollow]

arcane?

[patent sail]

arcana OR spectral

both can have it

[steady hollow]

its a spectrual card tho

[patent sail]

it can spawn in arcana too

same goes for black hole in planet packs

[steady hollow]

ok but also what are legendary jokers and how can i get some

[patent sail]

only from Soul

[steady hollow]

what does a black hole do?

[patent sail]

you just need to get lucky

[patent sail]

+1 level to all hands

[steady hollow]

i mean unlock not buy

[patent sail]

find them

[spiral gorge]

would it be smart to sell every joker but constellation, use ankh and buy the blueprint?

[patent sail]

thats how you unlock them

you unlock each when you find them for the first time

[spiral gorge]

thing is im playing the checkered deck and was going for a flush build

[patent sail]

i meannn if you got levels on the hand

[viral raft]

that's what i did, i found another Brainstorm in ante 4 so then i won

[spiral gorge]

i would focus on planets for sure if that's what you mean

[patent sail]

it could work but im not really really sure if thats the play

like if flat mult isnt there conste will have nothing to multiply

[spiral gorge]

yeahh you're right

[patent sail]

whats the flush level looking like

if its low i wouldnt do it

[spiral gorge]

lvl 4 80x10

[patent sail]

mmm 1.6^3

thats like around x3

[spiral gorge]

that can scale quiclkly tho

or i would need to get lucky rerolling now for some mults

i think i'm going with it since i wanna have a lil more fun, i always go for flush builds anyway 🙏

[patent sail]

i mean fuck it you can wing it really, worst case scenario - its only purple stake, youre not gonna lose much

[spiral gorge]

ight thanks

[pearl hinge]

Me when I try to post a gif of a seal but evil automod doesn't let me seal the deal

[patent sail]

what the hell

hi again

[pearl hinge]

Hi

!!!

I like this new pfp

[patent sail]

will be probably gone in a day 🐎🔥

[pearl hinge]

Gg

I'm gonna go do a

Yellow deck

Run

[patent sail]

piss deck my beloved

[pearl hinge]

Apparently black stake because that was what I was up to gg

[steady hollow]

can i get a legendary joker on my first run?

[spiral gorge]

already lost 😭

[turbid nova]

Chat should I take the reroll skip?

This is the golden needle challenge

[pallid galleon]

i say yuh

[turbid nova]

royal flush maxxing

[pallid galleon]

wait cant you do the pin thingy

idk how to do it

[turbid nova]

yeahh but it would only work for brainstorm

I have no way of knowing where bp is gonna be

if both of them copy a x2 joker I get around 300k

[spiral gorge]

is there a counterpart to the blackboard?

[turbid nova]

no

[patent sail]

not on the tutorial one

its a set seed

[wintry ice]

????????

[steady hollow]

ok but exept that

[patent sail]

but without tutorial if you get lucky yes you can

[steady hollow]

like are they behind achivments?

[patent sail]

theres only an achievement for finding any legendary for the first time

and thats it

theres no requirements to finding them, just get lucky

i guess just open all arcana/spectral packs you come across and pray you hit it

[tight pike]

Yep gg's

[dusty tusk]

What is yalls go to hand when starting the run

[tight pike]

Flush

[patent sail]

straight

[jagged dune]

flush

[tight pike]

Easiest to play and can get you through ante 1

[patent sail]

because im insane

[jagged dune]

or straight

whatever

[dusty tusk]

Yeah I hate when flus doesn’t hit 300 in first ante it pmo

[patent sail]

straight is much more satisfying to pull off for some reason

[dusty tusk]

I’m just really struggling on purple stake rn idk what to do

[jagged dune]

try to find higher ranking cards

[tight pike]

For me it's either a flush or somehow a 4oak or straight flush that shows up on ante 1 small blind

[jagged dune]

what

[patent sail]

i LOVE straights i will always kill small blind with a straight

[tight pike]

I have a curse

[patent sail]

fuck you small blind

[tight pike]

Ante 1 Small Blind will somehow give me a hand that makes me get double the requirement somehow

[dusty tusk]

Fr what

[south monolith]

Oh no my jokers get shuffled

[dusty tusk]

I mean what’s that even

[tight pike]

The humble Gold Stake Verdant Leaf:

Eh actually remove gold stake from that sentence

[patent sail]

does nothing

[turbid nova]

@south monolith I might have found the first documented case where amber acorn could make me lose

[patent sail]

i would

rerolling into heart tho 🥀🥀

[turbid nova]

Screw it I’m rerolling it

I got the bell

[tight pike]

I have once gotten fucked over by a double tag

[south monolith]

Better memorize sell values to rearrange

[turbid nova]

Not horrible

[tight pike]

Double Tag + Reroll

[turbid nova]

Doesn’t it show $?

[south monolith]

Yup, that's why you would memorize the values, to rearrange after the shuffle n flip

[pallid galleon]

le sigh

stuntman is more common than bean atp

[tight pike]

Stuntman my goat

Hold on

[pallid galleon]

my 34th attempt where i either dont get crimson heart or i don't find a bean

[turbid nova]

yipee

2 challenges left

[tight pike]

Did you do your gold stakes already?

[turbid nova]

A couple

[tight pike]

Lucky

[turbid nova]

Well on my main account just red

[tight pike]

I did none but Black Deck

[turbid nova]

I’ve beaten green, painted and checkered on an alt

[south monolith]

Finally I have invis

[turbid nova]

Bc it was part of a challenge

Cruelty or jokerless first?

First reply decides

[tight pike]

Stuntman was hell to unlock for me on this profile

[south monolith]

Jokerless

[turbid nova]

Aight jokerless it is

[tight pike]

Somehow never got a fucking build that could get 100m

[south monolith]

Which one is that (unlock method)

[turbid nova]

100M in a single hand I think

[south monolith]

100m in one hand?!

[tight pike]

Yes

[turbid nova]

yep

[tight pike]

Not difficult just gotta be lucky

[turbid nova]

yeah it's one of the hardest ones

[south monolith]

-# I can barely make 100k

[tight pike]

Oh god you are gonna hate gold stake

[south monolith]

Ive beaten a gold stake

[tight pike]

Worst one is Plasma Gold Stake Violet

[tight pike]

Lucky mf you got the gros michel gold sticker

[south monolith]

IT NEVER DIES WHEN I WANT IT TO

[turbid nova]

real

[tight pike]

I mean I'm calling you lucky while I got luchador gold sticker

Sometimes I forget bp can copy burglar

[turbid nova]

oh wow how useful

[tight pike]

Hermit while in debt, no joker temp and wof and star or moon on checkered:

Type of shit I hate

[pearl hinge]

2 soul cards btw

[tight pike]

Oh yeah can't forget
The humble sock on ancient deck

[lean agate]

ohmygod I did it, I found Ancientjo and did C++ holy shit

[hoary moon]

omg ancient

[lean agate]

I mean thats okay

golden needle

[spark canyon]

this is gonna be funny

[pallid galleon]

yayus

[quiet hawk]

potential???

[surreal dragon]

wof? TERRARIA REFERENCE???

[brave goblet]

better than me

I've only ever done double to do list

[quiet hawk]

were they polychrome though 🙏🙏

also its so annoying they dont hit the same hand

[brave goblet]

ye

[quiet hawk]

wow alright

holyyyyy shit

[royal heath]

how are you in debt?

[surreal dragon]

They aren't?

Theyre talking abt a temperance without having any jokers

[thorny cipher]

My final Gold Stake deck!!

[severe heart]

bru my cavendish just broke

r we fr

[spark canyon]

voucher arcana pack merry andy are pretty expensive, resorted to credit card shenanigans

[thorny cipher]

I forgot to save this seed, but the Cavendish breaks at the end of round 6...

[bronze rune]

what do i swap for blueprint

i currently have -1 hand suze

i took an ectoplasm

[fiery crescent]

Oof landed on Chad eh?

[bronze rune]

yup

[thorny cipher]

Do you guys know how to trigger the achievements?

[viral raft]

did you just get the 100% in deck?

[primal heath]

Win another game

[viral raft]

for some reason you need to won a run after getting 100%

so the game trigger the achievement

[thorny cipher]

Yep, I've just done Plasma

[viral raft]

win a run in any stake

then the achievement appears

is a weird bug that also happens on steam with also C++

[thorny cipher]

Is seeded run work?

[viral raft]

mmmm idk about that

but is better to just go white stake with a poweful deck

like ghost deck or something

[patent sail]

what the fuck is your build 😭😭😭😭

[patent sail]

looks like you have a lot to do

[lean agate]

accidentally bumped into a couple in their private room (buffoon pack)

[viral raft]

all that i see is a 1.5^3 xmult

nothing weird here

[lost gull]

guys i just reopened balatro for the first time in months and idk what happened to the language lol

[viral raft]

go theres then choose your preferable language

[lost gull]

all the languages look like this tho

[viral raft]

what?

for real?

[tiny temple]

Finished every deck stake!!

[viral raft]

GG WP!!!

now go challenges lol

[tiny temple]

Thinking about modding now

[humble gulch]

It looks sick ngl

I'd play like that

[lost gull]

like wtf lmfao

[viral raft]

reinstall the game maybe

[lean agate]

I did a stupid

[lost gull]

yeah maybe its just corrupted

[tranquil cedar]

whoops

[lost gull]

reinstalling it didnt do anything im just gonna go report it as a bug ig

[viral raft]

damn that's crazy

[lost gull]

strangly enough the only language that looks normal is chinese

[viral raft]

mmm

what about go chinese, reopen the game then change language

[wintry ice]

font issue?

[viral raft]

yeah

the font looks glitchy and all

[patent sail]

play by memory 🔥🔥🔥

if you remember what things are you domt need the font to be readable

[viral raft]

after your first c++ the entire game is just a muscle memory of playing pair tbf

[lost gull]

you might be cooking

[patent sail]

activate your windows vro

[rustic swallow]

wut do i dooooooooo

im being vera smat

[viral raft]

the screenshot is from Happy Rogu3

not me

[rustic swallow]

my brean deded

[lost gull]

thats actually my screenshot lol

[patent sail]

kill banana if youre gonna photochad

[rustic swallow]

ok

[lost gull]

atp the computer is 8 years old and stuck on windows 10 its never getting activated

[patent sail]

hell yea

i just say it because its funny honestly

[lost gull]

ok i tried switching it to chinese and reopening and it worked for 2 seconds the language was like polish and then the game crashed and now its back

[patent sail]

atp play by memory of effects

[near basalt]

Brainstorm and Blueprint

Need to find stars and replace swash

[patent sail]

wouldnt copying fib be better? even with 2 triggers its better than diamonds flush

[near basalt]

Ah fair

[pallid galleon]

never go diamonds

[wind night]

Oh no what shall I ever do without my 4 mult

[patent sail]

chuddy suit icl

hearts my beloved (fuck you bloodstone)

[near basalt]

I need rough gem for money

💔

[patent sail]

just find any econ jonkler really

that isnt del grat

something like faceless is around the same value if you trigger it

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[near basalt]

Drop that Idea I need negative on my egg

[weary whale]

Blue stake now done on every deck

Potential to go even further with even better deck fixing (natural red seal glass queen of spades on a flush build)

[hoary moon]

yessir

[patent sail]

people actually do stakes this way?

[hoary moon]

ive been hating bloodstone for a while

maybe its time to change

[weary whale]

Do each stake at a time and not by deck?

[hoary moon]

there we go

[patent sail]

id imagine its super annoying to switch decks after every win and having to readjust to the gimmick/playstyle of the deck every time

[hoary moon]

new name new me

[hoary moon]

optimal way to play balatro

[patent sail]

id rather do them by deck

[hoary moon]

gradual progression

[hoary moon]

delayed gratification

[hoary moon]

omg balatro reference

[patent sail]

delayed blackdeckification

[weary whale]

I’d rather do it by stake. Feels better progression wise and makes sure each deck doesn’t get stale

[hoary moon]

yes

this guy knows ball

[patent sail]

im NOT touching black and plasma until everything else is done

[hoary moon]

very smart

[hoary moon]

wait plasma why

[patent sail]

plasma for sure going last because its like a different game

[hoary moon]

chip maxxing

or facecard slop

[patent sail]

if i do it now for sure i will forget how to score on any other deck

[patent sail]

ew

[hoary moon]

plasma is so weird fr

[bronze rune]

imma jump off a cliff

[brave goblet]

These stupid speed runs are kinda funny lol

[humble gulch]

It balancing out your score it's not enough for x2 blind size

[brave goblet]

My goated negative bean died before I could take a pic

stuntman with 12 handsize is crazy

[hoary moon]

mmm ye

plasma deck is ridiculous

its just for endless

[tranquil steppe]

If you do black first it makes every other deck feel easy

[humble gulch]

Black deck is fun

[patent sail]

i dont CAR i wanna get easy ones out of the way before the last 3 evil ass decks

i have 2 absolute nothing decks left before those

[near basalt]

Lowkie I'm starting to hate diet cola

It gets the poly effect every time it appears

[brave goblet]

you can just keep it you know

[patent sail]

whats to hate in it? you buy it, you sell it, you get a tag

[near basalt]

But like

Double tag

[hoary moon]

agreed

[patent sail]

who cares

[hoary moon]

nebula deck is way worse

[patent sail]

keep it till you can sell it if you need that poly

[hoary moon]

i hate nebula

[patent sail]

why does it even do -1 consumable slot

like do we need to do that

[humble gulch]

Free win

[hoary moon]

yea its ass

[patent sail]

telescope cant be good enough to warrant that

[hoary moon]

Zodiac deck gives 3 vouchers for free

telescope aint even that good

[spark canyon]

the actual yorick dream run

[patent sail]

i mean reliable hand scaling is kinda good but

not -1 consumable slot kind of good

[lean agate]

oh thank god I didnt blow it

[hoary moon]

ye

gng i need tips

how do i approach vouchers

[gentle lintel]

Free telescope is like having a blue seal starting in your deck imo. It's pretty good.

[patent sail]

grabber = free

[hoary moon]

bc i never know which ones to but and when to buy

[patent sail]

thats it i think

[gentle lintel]

Buy them a drink first, then ask.

[hoary moon]

grabber, overstock and telescope

those are the good ones right

[patent sail]

any that arent tycoons and illusion when yiu have money for them

[gentle lintel]

It depends

[brave goblet]

ask yourself what helps you and what doesn't

[solid python]

(balatrodle) HOW

[hoary moon]

what ante do i start

[patent sail]

oh hey i had that happen once

i think it was mad joker that day

[brave goblet]

when you can afford it