🕹・game-discussion

[cloud sinew]

it is vulnerable to 6 boss blinds, it is one rank specific, it requires you to keep kings in hand which means you are forced to play lower hands but baron also relies on base mult

[tender quarry]

Of course, but it’s still sometimes

[hardy jackal]

shrug

I think it's fine

like C tier

[waxen fable]

not fine

[gentle basalt]

It is F

[waxen fable]

f tier max

play gold stake with it and you'll know

[hardy jackal]

what about reserved parking

[flat tiger]

for ante 8 i dont even think baron is decent, its bad

[waxen fable]

if u have one lucky run dont talk to me not a good argument

[gentle basalt]

Name some jokers worse than baron
Bloodstone, showman, seance

[cloud sinew]

your arguments are very weak

[hollow birch]

my black deck gold stakes are making me feel like a masochist help

[knotty zodiac]

parking is decent with pairs

[waxen fable]

good

[knotty zodiac]

or HC

[gentle basalt]

Pretty good

[hardy jackal]

You're arguing lol I'm just saying it's fine

[hollow birch]

i just feel pain

[waxen fable]

we are discussing on why it's not fine

[knotty zodiac]

Your assertions are arguments

[hardy jackal]

You're not fine

[waxen fable]

youre inept

[cloud sinew]

we are arguing, twin. we are disagreeing and talking about our own perspectives

[flat tiger]

clearly i am in a mass minority but black deck took me way less time and reset then painted/plasma on Purple +

[tender quarry]

If I’m on a Fist run then I’ll at least consider baron if I see it

[hardy jackal]

whateva man

[hollow birch]

there's no way what

[hardy jackal]

anyway Mr Bones is S tier

[knotty zodiac]

plasma's pretty tricky and requires a whole new set of skills. whats the holdup on painted tho?

[waxen fable]

no argument and then pull out whatever card emoji9

[flat tiger]

i dont even feel anything before purple but starting from purple I finished black deck within an hour each stake while plasma and painted took me tons of time and reset

[tranquil steppe]

You have to argue with them. You’re in too deep

[hardy jackal]

I'll show you what's too deep

[waxen fable]

what

[knotty zodiac]

i sense a maternal jest incoming

[hidden lance]

so turns out if the bean runs out on round 24 you dont get the sticker

[fringe nebula]

foil army

[bold gyro]

Is it a hot take to say familiar is bad 90% of the time?

[fringe nebula]

uh

maybe 60%

[flat tiger]

i love when banana breaks after Ante 8 big blind: get that sticker away from me

[hardy jackal]

blueprint is bad 90% of the time

[gentle basalt]

I think it is good iff you get gold cards (usually)

[knotty zodiac]

i feel like i never take familiar but that's a mistake

[gentle basalt]

But i think you take the chance anyways unless you have good value generators in your deck

[knotty zodiac]

at low econ no seals it's probably helpful

[hardy jackal]

blueprint and brainstorm are simultaneously the best and worst jokers until you decide what they duplicate

Schrodinger

[flat tiger]

its good when I have no enhance cards to work with yet

[tranquil steppe]

A black hole?

[noble mango]

Is it just me or flower pot is an S tier
||(S as in Shit)||

[flat tiger]

very hard to use with only 3X? sign me up

[tranquil steppe]

The Mariana Trench?

[sly tundra]

The real Balatro were the friends we made along the way.

[hardy jackal]

I think bootstraps is shit

[knotty zodiac]

flower pot is usable xmult so it cant be shit

it is mid tho

[gentle basalt]

How has mid been redefined to be bottom 10-20 joker

[flat tiger]

i take seeing double every day, i dont run with a million wild card every run

[gentle basalt]

Seeing double can be used pretty consistently, especially after a few moon cards

[bold gyro]

is it ok to have mail in rebate be my only economy?

[sly tundra]

Probably? Depends.

How much of a reckless spender r u?

[flat tiger]

a lot of runs gave me no econ but somehow it was enough to win

[knotty zodiac]

it's in bottom 10 for you? i dont know off the top of my head but im sure there are many worse

[noble mango]

More often than not
Yes

If ur greedy however

You need 5 econ jokers and money tree active at all times
And gold cards

[bold gyro]

trying to do high card/paid build but it's tough since my setup makes me score better with 2 pair or fullhouse

[gentle basalt]

bottom 20 for sure

[knotty zodiac]

esp since there is no substitute for xmult unless youre setup for retriggers

[sly tundra]

Can't force a build if your assets scream to play something else.

[bold gyro]

What joker should I be looking to sell at higher antes?

should I keep this for now or reroll?

[flat tiger]

flower pot is like one of if not the hardest X mult joker to use, for only X3

[sly tundra]

Campfire is the real shit for those with restraint.

[icy hollow]

67

[knotty zodiac]

"only 3x" is nuts. yeah that's easily accomplished with most other xmult, but you can't pick and choose in this game

sometimes youre only offered flower pot and loyalty card

[flat tiger]

just like you are way less likely to actually get the X3 from flower pot

[quaint stag]

campfire is so goated

[flat tiger]

you need smear or a lot of wild cards

[quaint stag]

i love campfire runs

[flat tiger]

campfire runs are ususally low pressure relatively easy

[knotty zodiac]

i hardly take smear/wilds and i play my straights fine with flower pot. not as good as if i had good xmult ofc

[flat tiger]

you cant even deck fix without wild, you have to pray you get all 4 suit with your hand

[quaint stag]

yeah compared to other flat 3x mults (i'm pretty sure it's only trio/card sharp) the conditions of pot are significantly more difficult to fulfil

[knotty zodiac]

its not praying. it's selective discarding and holding suit changers

[quaint stag]

unless im missing a joker

[flat tiger]

blackboard, driver

acrobat

[icy hollow]

acrobat

[knotty zodiac]

yes, they are worse than good xmult

[icy hollow]

order

[quaint stag]

ah

[icy hollow]

cavendish

[quaint stag]

order is 3x?? i thought it was 4x

okay i missed a lot lmao

[flat tiger]

flower pot should be X4 for how hard it is comapred to otehr X3

[cloud sinew]

theres probably only 2 xmults i consider to be worse than flower pot

[knotty zodiac]

there is no x4

in the game

[icy hollow]

family is

[flat tiger]

The Family

[knotty zodiac]

i stanh corrected

[fringe nebula]

loyalty card

[knotty zodiac]

ya flowerpot should move up to 4x

[gentle basalt]

Loyalty and?

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt really fix it

[cloud sinew]

no

idol and baron

[quaint stag]

which?

[flat tiger]

exactly my point, with how much harder flower pot is to activate, it should be X4 if not more

[icy hollow]

bloodstone

[fringe nebula]

anyway, a very gold stake looking build

[icy hollow]

truth nuke

[knotty zodiac]

its ok to have some jokers better than others.

[quaint stag]

eh fair idol is the most dependant joker in the game

[turbid nova]

throwback is better than flowerpot?

[gentle basalt]

They should be called something else, i think on trigger xmult and normal xmult are different

[knotty zodiac]

flower pot isnt unusable, its just hard to use

[fringe nebula]

flower pot is better than throwback

[turbid nova]

yeah exactly

[flat tiger]

if you count scaling Xmult throwback would not even appear in years

[cloud sinew]

it should be easier. make it any 3 suits

[turbid nova]

use wild cards

[quaint stag]

what if it was like seeing double where instead of just having like 3x mult it was 2x mult but each additional suit beyond the second added 1x

[gentle basalt]

Make wild cards not be debuffed by all suit bosses and 4x is also fine

[cloud sinew]

nope! wild cards make flower pot WORSE

[turbid nova]

why

[flat tiger]

that makes more sense, 2 suit 2X, 3 suit 3X

[knotty zodiac]

debuff bosses

[fringe nebula]

flower pot shortcut my beloved

[tender quarry]

It’s kinda both

[cloud sinew]

wild cards dont count as their base suit when debuffed

which is a bug but still

[bold gyro]

Do I take any of these?

[turbid nova]

I guess

that's kinda specific tho

[cloud sinew]

not really

7 boss blinds

[quaint stag]

no you should be fine

[flat tiger]

it would actually make sense for flower pot to give X mult equal to how many suits are in the hand

[quaint stag]

unless you need scoring or something then take fist/walkie talkie

[cloud sinew]

that just makes it be better seeing double

[flat tiger]

duo is a better seeing double, there are better jokers then others

[cloud sinew]

as any 2 unique suits becomes x2

[knotty zodiac]

if you have time you can consider castle over scary face

[icy hollow]

duo is rare

[cloud sinew]

duo is poker hand specific

[flat tiger]

make it rare then if need be, like its not even an issue

[bold gyro]

I skipped none of them jumped out at me

[icy hollow]

and the issue isnt a joker being stronger than another. its the joker just being the same as another but better (like with onyx agate)

[cloud sinew]

FP would be a better seeing double in all but 1 situation; when you have a wild / have smeared and play a high card

[flat tiger]

yeah, so they already exist, like pants is better bus/green

[cloud sinew]

no it isnt

[icy hollow]

no lmao

[cloud sinew]

not directly

[icy hollow]

what

[knotty zodiac]

seeing double can go back to being a 7 joker of some sort

[cloud sinew]

thats not a pure upgrade, youre misunderstanding what were saying

[icy hollow]

its really only onyx agate. then blueprint brainstorm. and even with onyx agate they are different rarity and onyx is more expensive

[flat tiger]

so they exist but somehow it becomes a problem now?

[cloud sinew]

i dont think onyx should be a direct upgrade anyway

[icy hollow]

i mean yeah. if youre trying to rebalance a joker, making it the same as another joker but stronger is not a good fix lmao

[flat tiger]

yet it is

[cloud sinew]

so no it doesnt suddenly become a problem

[cloud sinew]

???

yeah no shit it exists, so what? im saying it shouldnt actually

[knotty zodiac]

flowerpot up to 4x is sufficient to make it an interesting choice

[flat tiger]

it is a direct upgrade of Gluttonous Joker, just like BP is direct upgrade of BS

[icy hollow]

just cus its in the game doesnt make it a good thing?

[echo sphinx]

gang wht is happening

[knotty zodiac]

someone called flower pot awful and then i called it mid. all the top minds jumped in

[echo sphinx]

honest to god i still have no idea what it does lol

[cloud sinew]

being mid would make it better than a lot of xmults still, which i dont think it is

[echo sphinx]

i play pairs and not trigger flowerpot

[flat tiger]

other non scaling Xmult is either easy to activate or have better mult

[echo sphinx]

i must be dumb

[knotty zodiac]

i didnt say it was a mid xmult, i said it was usable xmult and that it therefore cant be "shit" (actual word)

since bad xmult is still xmult

[waxen fable]

baron is still xmult guyss

[cloud sinew]

usable does not mean it isnt bad

[flat tiger]

it is baraly usable even with straight when you need to draw all 4 suit within the straight, or again, ahve a lot of wild

its worse with 2 pair/4oak

[echo sphinx]

throwback MMMMMMM

[cloud sinew]

idol is technically usable, doesnt make it any less shit

[knotty zodiac]

loyalty card and throwback are unusably bad

[echo sphinx]

idol erratic could be a challenge

[knotty zodiac]

flower pot can win runs. idol essentially cant.

[waxen fable]

loyalty has an extent

[pale wolf]

me when Chad

[flat tiger]

at least I have found more use cases for them then having a deck that can reliably draw 4 suits

[waxen fable]

throwback just kill you straight up

[echo sphinx]

idk about loyalty ngl

[cloud sinew]

loyalty is easy to set up for the boss blind and burglar exists, throwback is fairly often 1.25x which is at least something

[flat tiger]

loyalty is easy if you get it around late ante 7/early ante 8, and its X4

[waxen fable]

most expensive way to get 1.25x lool

[cloud sinew]

its retroactive

[echo sphinx]

ante 1 investment skip

[pale wolf]

talks about useless jokers
says 4 uncommons

can we remember bbc

[echo sphinx]

handy monis skip also not terrible to pick

[flat tiger]

1st small blind skip into full build around ante 5, then you have perishable stuff, etc, you can easily get 3X throwback without "killing yourself"

[echo sphinx]

showman meta

[cloud sinew]

Thats baseball xmult on uncommons, not uncommons giving xmult innately

so no i wont be talking about BBC

[pale wolf]

I'd reckon there are more relevant BBC games for idol than there are for its actual effect

[cloud sinew]

sure but that applies to every uncommon

[waxen fable]

is this joker good
: it synergizes with x.

[pale wolf]

Not true! wha!

[echo sphinx]

just pick it up until you see ttm or smsh

[icy hollow]

🥀 yea i think im washed idk wtf these mean

[echo sphinx]

like why so angy

[echo sphinx]

rip

[icy hollow]

me when i get tank top master

😭 wtf is ttm

[waxen fable]

to the blud

[echo sphinx]

bbc = basebal card

[waxen fable]

adds more interest

[echo sphinx]

ttm to the moon

[cloud sinew]

not angry twin

[echo sphinx]

double interest

[waxen fable]

we're not angry we just love this game too much . dont misinterpret it

[flat tiger]

most of my builds end up having at least 2 uncommon so baseball is usually a decent pickup

[echo sphinx]

i still need to knows how to proc flower pot

[flat tiger]

by playing at least 4 cards

[bold gyro]

Holo crafty worth it? I’m doing pair face card build

[echo sphinx]

do they all have to score

[cloud sinew]

3x if the poker hand contains a spade, club, heart and diamond

[flat tiger]

maybe flower pot is good for splash fib or something

[waxen fable]

most xmults are uncommon

[knotty zodiac]

shortcut is an enabler

[bold gyro]

I think I am going to reroll shop

holo crafty does not seem worth it

if I was doing flush build then yeah

[cloud sinew]

Id drop photo probably

[bold gyro]

for what?

[cloud sinew]

for anything there

[waxen fable]

it doesn't seem to do anything much

74 econ. do u have the interest voucher

[bold gyro]

but then my only X mult is the 1.5 from jolly polychrome

[bold gyro]

overstock blank clearance magic and paint brush

so no

[waxen fable]

would reroll to replace dat photo

[bold gyro]

so should I reroll shop or buy 1 of these?

[pallid galleon]

interesting

[waxen fable]

sell photo buy holo n then reroll for xmu

[bold gyro]

x or plus?

[cloud sinew]

2x from photo doesnt really do much for you as you dont have much base mult

[eager prawn]

Where's chip build!!!?

[flat tiger]

the best baseball card build but the 5X was not even the big scoring

[bold gyro]

gross and jolly give me +23 mult base that isn't good?

[pallid galleon]

i think judgement solved that issue

[cloud sinew]

thats not base mult

[pallid galleon]

got devil fool twice in a row btw

[echo sphinx]

does pair work

[knotty zodiac]

no

[bold gyro]

what is then

[cloud sinew]

the mult on the poker hand

[echo sphinx]

BAD

[flat tiger]

base mult is from planets/mult cards and stuff

[knotty zodiac]

bad xmult sure

[cloud sinew]

yeah photo isnt doing much

[eager prawn]

Updating random T.T

[bold gyro]

found this new joker gives +1 for each tarot and it's at +17 now

[pale wolf]

why does this look like a constellation/satellite game lol

[bold gyro]

buy?

[waxen fable]

the fortune teller

[pale wolf]

hi qou

[waxen fable]

it gives more than the holo so

[bold gyro]

+17 is better than X2?

[waxen fable]

hai

[waxen fable]

see the thing is the photo is on card scoring

so the photo multiplies the base mult first before anything

[tranquil cedar]

aight

[waxen fable]

id probably take it

[flat tiger]

at most 3mult per round is... bad?

[eager prawn]

Definitely not red card would leave atp

[pale wolf]

its not great

[echo sphinx]

ye

[noble mango]

Now make that fire piano guy

[flat tiger]

if you can get 3 mult at best each round it needs to be like 5+ mult per

[pale wolf]

It's either winmore or it doesn't keep up with itself and dies

[bold gyro]

YESSSS WHEEL OF FORTUNE WORKED AND ON FORTUNE TELLER

[waxen fable]

what edition

[echo sphinx]

if im interpreting flowerpot correctly its straight fulhouse xmult joker

[knotty zodiac]

+4 would bring it in line with bus/grimbo

[knotty zodiac]

usable with two pair but not great there. i think better straights

[bold gyro]

40K boss next do I keep re rolling or is this good?

[echo sphinx]

twopair is mega sus lol

[pallid galleon]

I N F I N I T E T A R O T S

[eager prawn]

Are u even playing lil bro

[bold gyro]

?

[pale wolf]

to me flowerpot is a splash joker

[waxen fable]

what is this random slime

[echo sphinx]

water your plants

[waxen fable]

i get it now

[bold gyro]

slime?

[echo sphinx]

flowerpot works with splash real

[waxen fable]

slang for kill

[bold gyro]

oh

so is my setup good enough to get 40K?

[waxen fable]

lacking xmult

[bold gyro]

....

photo had X2

[waxen fable]

chips is a concern too ... relying on scary face for that is sketchy

[bold gyro]

jolly joker is my only xmult has 1.5

[waxen fable]

x2 on card scoring and ur base mult didn't helpt for that

[echo sphinx]

bro its white stake

[bold gyro]

Lots of face in deck tho

[waxen fable]

i play like gold stake on any stake

[waxen fable]

oh ig dats fine

[echo sphinx]

bro doesn't greed

[fringe nebula]

yorick is bad because it won't help you survive ante 12

[eager prawn]

You never play endless tough

[fringe nebula]

that's the joke

[pallid galleon]

this is the most busted seed i've seen in my life

and i just found one with 2 legendaries in one shop earlier

[bold gyro]

Is this joker worth it ?

[echo sphinx]

late pickup

[bold gyro]

is that a yes?

[echo sphinx]

maybe not worth

[bold gyro]

not sure if X1 is better than anything I got

[echo sphinx]

unless u buy a bunch of quick planets

and blue seal ofc

i would take

[subtle drum]

x1? obviously no. but you need xmult

i’d take it

[echo sphinx]

and sell

[subtle drum]

yeah probably

[echo sphinx]

banana is even later on

speculative cavendisg

[bold gyro]

Fuck =/

[bold gyro]

so photo X2 is worse?

[echo sphinx]

start using a few planets and then it can go to 2.5x ornsmsh

[bold gyro]

welp too late I didn't take it

ohh supernova

[echo sphinx]

also sus if fortune teller has big number

[bold gyro]

worth it?

holo fortune teller at +22 now

[echo sphinx]

o

[echo sphinx]

idk

[bold gyro]

oh wait

I played lots of different hands

anything with pair

[echo sphinx]

rip, then its not better than banana

[bold gyro]

ohhh rerolled sock

sock better than gros?

[echo sphinx]

OM

probably

sock doubles your scary face value

id take

[bold gyro]

buy sock sell gros?

[echo sphinx]

yep

gros a bit late too

[flat tiger]

end of the road with Obelisk

[bold gyro]

damn

sock so good with scary you right

[flat tiger]

somehow got nothing better then chicken for 5 antes

[echo sphinx]

yes

[bold gyro]

Wow

Just rerolled pareidolia

Sell rebate for it yes?

Ante 8 so don’t need Econ

[simple merlin]

Now pivot to straight flush, duh

[bold gyro]

I am 99% sure this is the right move

But can someone confirm

[simple merlin]

Nah, unnecesary, rebate is carrying your econ as of right now, better to keep it

[bold gyro]

...

but sock and parei are best friends

that is how I got a win before

but I guess numbered cards are not good anymore

I buffed all my face cards

[simple merlin]

They synergize indeed, but that doesn't make them necessarily too strong, you probably have enough chips already, pareidolia would only marginally help you with consistency, i would rather have one more round with money to try find something better

[surreal thorn]

Guys Lsplash from doors is in this server

[bold gyro]

woo got my first 5 of a kind

[vagrant wagon]

What is this buffoon pack man

2 nat negatives out off Buffoon packs

[pallid galleon]

chat do i take blueprint

it will tank my econ

current deck is mostly gold kings, no red seal

[vagrant wagon]

I think not but don’t trust me I have not played much yet 🫠

[bold gyro]

ok at ante 8 boss I rolle card sharp so buy this and sell rebate now yes?

[waxen fable]

uh yes? son

[simple merlin]

Oh yeah

Absolutely

Card sharp my beloved

[pallid galleon]

i don't think it does anything other than make my build worse

[bold gyro]

what order should my jokers be in?

[waxen fable]

if u replace a brainstorm it's just the same no

[hidden lance]

nasty work

[strange compass]

This might be the most boring run I've played

[simple merlin]

Naninf attempt? Obviously, sell burglar

[waxen fable]

they'll die lol

[vagrant wagon]

Should I take that Bloodstone? Or the Supernova?

[pallid galleon]

not necessarily, crimson bean attempt

[pallid galleon]

no

[simple merlin]

That's true, didn't even noticed he barely had scoring lol

[flat tiger]

almost a slop record

[simple merlin]

Ante 39 then? Or just want to test out the bean bug?

[pallid galleon]

i have a level 10 flush five

[pallid galleon]

getting as good of an ante 8 bean bug as i can

[bold gyro]

is my joker order optimal?

[pallid galleon]

yeah i think it actually makes more money

if i copy chad and golden ticket i'm making $40 per gold card

vs $36 per gold card when i just copy ticket twice

[simple merlin]

Got it got it, in that case, blueprint is still worth it, maybe chad, probably worth it

[flat tiger]

only in challenge mode sadge

[simple merlin]

There's is that too, it's probably the easiest

[pallid galleon]

the consideration is that i have 2 brainstorms, if i sell one i won't be able to get 3 copy jokers

[bold gyro]

joker order ok?

[simple merlin]

Yeah

[simple merlin]

That's true, ecto would be hard to come by

[strange compass]

Your base mult jokers should be on left side and x mult jokers should be on right side

[simple merlin]

And even then, you would had to find a showman

[pallid galleon]

i'm not going to use ecto before bean bug anyways

[pallid galleon]

actually with my money, using showman is feasible if i really want to do it

[simple merlin]

If you ain't gonna take an ecto, probably better to wait to after ante 8

[pallid galleon]

chances are I don't get crimson heart even with director's cut and none of this matters

[simple merlin]

Hope you find it or have retcon by ante 8

[pallid galleon]

i think i'm gonna skip blueprint, even if replacing brainstorm makes a little more money

[bold gyro]

woot won ante 8

this game is so weird

it feels both super satisfying and so...anticlimactic to win

[pallid galleon]

im finding so many souls

[waxen fable]

id skip

w baits

[gaunt burrow]

blue print in the 2nd round !

[gentle lintel]

4 new gold seals in 1 run. Gotta love it!

[fringe nebula]

blue seal is bad because it's hard to use it to level up my flush

[waxen fable]

goodjob

gay run

[waxen fable]

is this joker good
: it synergizes with x.

[tight pike]

It was a nice run to be honest

[echo sphinx]

throwback skip ahh

[tight pike]

Glass cards u gotta love em

[gentle lintel]

That took me waaaaay too long to get. 😂

[tiny temple]

I'm curious now that I'm trying to do it, did y'all do black deck gold stake normally or did you aggressively restart for a busted run?

[strange compass]

Normally

[gentle lintel]

Normally

[strange compass]

Besides restarting isn't that useful anyway

Because it doesn't guarantee

[gentle lintel]

Took a while, but I'm a slow learner when it comes to Balatro

[strange compass]

I only restart if idgaf about the run or see some shit like eternal zany joker and parking shop 1

[gentle lintel]

Nothing wrong with restarting tho.

[knotty zodiac]

skill issue, all you need to do is play checkered and highroll the game /s

[gentle lintel]

I just prefer to try and make a bad run work

[icy hollow]

@royal ore

[patent sail]

jimbo carry

[fringe nebula]

dear balatro gamers, what is the longest emperor fool loop you've ever had

[pallid galleon]

his greed sickens me

[brave goblet]

foil moment

[pallid galleon]

foil is making me less money grrr

[brave goblet]

REAL

[midnight quest]

That's why I should have taken eternal joker

[patent sail]

probably like 4-5, i didnt really count

something like that

[gaunt burrow]

i wonder where is my wee joker at

[midnight quest]

On gold stake

[brave goblet]

if you see a +big chips, it's the wee

[patent sail]

why is thai just english letters except with funny little extra marks added to them

[brave goblet]

It is?

[gaunt burrow]

i dont think you need to see the chips to guess

[patent sail]

i mean look at it

[brave goblet]

(that's the joke)

[patent sail]

its english letters but with

funny little like things

[brave goblet]

I think you spelled Vietnamese wrong

[patent sail]

oh its

[gaunt burrow]

iy have the foil sound

[patent sail]

yea

i confuse these two my bad

[brave goblet]

The reason is cause a Portuguese missionary helped the Vietnamese translate their script into something way easier to learn to read and write

[green apex]

vagabond putting in some real work for fortune teller

[brave goblet]

Otherwise, Vietnam would still be using essentially Mandarin

For sure they pronounce everything differently from the Chinese even if a lot of words are borrowed, but the essential writing system was basically Chinese

[patent sail]

history lessons only in #🕹・game-discussion

[green apex]

oh im sorry 😭

[patent sail]

???

thats not

what i meant

atp i probably should shut the fuck up 😭😭😭😭

[brave goblet]

just a joke, keep talking about balala

[green apex]

no ik i get it

im stupid i should have known all along

thats on me

[dire sage]

face reveal in the photos

[median summit]

Fuck

[dire sage]

you have approximately 1.23e-200 seconds to delete that or your face is forever known online

[brave goblet]

cursed

Evil Steven

[gaunt burrow]

i think it jst bc it is easier for them to read, but yeah latin word is easier to learn and write

[brave goblet]

Yes the point was to make it much easier to learn to read and write

[patent sail]

too late i already saved it abd sent it to every simgle person on earth

[brave goblet]

Before it'd take idk 5-20 years to learn the sino-viet script, with the latin alphabet it only took a year

[green apex]

much easier? man i got a vietnamese friend, absolutely butchered the reading and it meant something a lot more cursed than what it really was 😭

[dire sage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/head-ache-5

[brave goblet]

Americanized?

[green apex]

not american but

i guess?

i understand tones to some extent, but clearly not enough

[brave goblet]

tbh when you're older your tongue gets kinda stiff

most westerners can't actually pronounce the "ng" sound for instance

[gentle lintel]

Honestly, more than you know. I was scrambling for extra mult, was out of money, it had been 4 rounds since I had seen a +mult joker, Jimbo gave me just enough to survive a couple rounds to stabilize

[pale wolf]

uh they definitely can

they just can't get it through their heads to put it at the start of a word for some reason

[brave goblet]

i.e. can't pronounce it

mental block, physical block, you name it

[pale wolf]

they say it every time they say the word long

[brave goblet]

and ing

[green apex]

its more like a w sound isnt it

[brave goblet]

No it's not

the w sound is just cope

[pale wolf]

no it's literally the same sound as the ng in long

[green apex]

hm

[pale wolf]

phoneme

[gaunt burrow]

although , the main reseason to make it easier for them to spreading their religion , but im fine with the latin alphabet

[gentle lintel]

Apple and Samsung are literally the same

[gaunt burrow]

really?

[pale wolf]

wut

Apple does not have that phoneme

[gentle lintel]

Phone name

[brave goblet]

Most westerners can't even actually pronounce "Nguyen" lmao

[gaunt burrow]

oh

[brave goblet]

It's always the sidetrack that sounds like "win"

[green apex]

thought so

[pale wolf]

they literally can, they just refuse to f****** take it seriously

It's literally racism

[green apex]

my friend literally told me to pronounce it like that 😭

[brave goblet]

oh come on it's not literally that

[brave goblet]

lmfao

[pale wolf]

genuinely people will look at it and act like absolute idiots pronouncing things that aren't even there

The only explanation is some sort of implicit racism/ not taking pronunciation of foreign languages seriously because it's funnier to pronounce it wrong

[green apex]

thanks for that, i need a word with him at school tmw 😭

[ancient gyro]

customary system at its finest

[brave goblet]

okay I can kinda get behind that

How many vietnamese do we actually have here in this chat

This is a surprising number of people who have lots fo say on this topic

[ancient gyro]

sup

[green apex]

o7 fortune teller

[pale wolf]

english speakers will be like " I can't pronounce it that sound isn't even in my language" and then effortlessly say Sri Lanka

[brave goblet]

with blueprint and brainstorm copying it's basically a x3

[patent sail]

you sure score wont explode without +90? whatever you got going on there

[fringe nebula]

ante 3..........

not to mention that I have 2 blue seals

[green apex]

isnt sri lanka somewhat straight forward, the sri just making a shri sound?

[unreal topaz]

yep

[ancient gyro]

i could care less but a majority of english speakers have very little capability of being multilingual so it's funny to dunk on them for their natural speech impediment

[green apex]

oh forgot to mention, got flush five of poly 2s

fuck invis hit the chad

[patent sail]

wheres the wee

[pale wolf]

it really does feel like a dogmatic speech impediment

[gaunt burrow]

from what i learned it is to maintain our langue word by disguise as mandarin word to avoid the assimilation of china
but still keep our pronounce and culture

[green apex]

i was looking for it 😭

holy 3 lucky procs, without oops

[fringe nebula]

hallu gave me hangman

[patent sail]

what is going on

i kinds dont get the whole discussion

[gaunt burrow]

tbh ,i dont even know how describe the word "nguyen" in english

[brave goblet]

it also helped a ton to allow the Viet Minh to teach and communicate all its members

[gaunt burrow]

true

[pale wolf]

ng
uy (if anything this should be the hard part)
en

[green apex]

perishable hack 😭

[brave goblet]

Otherwise they'd have to be struck trying to teach farmers Sino-Viet (an impossible task) or have to make them read french

[fringe nebula]

even better

[brave goblet]

the nature of the vietnamese language and its writing

[cloud sinew]

keep it balatro

[brave goblet]

hey look it's the fun police

[ancient gyro]

ng sound
"we ing" sped up

[patent sail]

this chat is balatro like 50% of the time

[ancient gyro]

this is a serious topic

[pale wolf]

please only speak of the languages on this screen

[cloud sinew]

i will speak Feedback

[patent sail]

1 in 2 chance for #🕹・game-discussion to be about balatro

[pale wolf]

I didn't realize you were fluent in any other language 🦓

[green apex]

FUCK I ROLLED PAST A WEE

argh

ugh i got hiker

[ancient gyro]

wait can you pronounce "nguyen"

[patent sail]

im crine they didnt even make a font for russian even tho it would probably be pretty easy

[cloud sinew]

yes i have watched bojack

[prime valve]

Hello yall

[pale wolf]

here's the secret: they didn't make any fonts at all

lol

[ancient gyro]

nobody ik watches bojack

[pale wolf]

thunk didn't make the font for balatro

it's called m6x11

[cloud sinew]

m6x11 my beloved

[glossy parrot]

Yall is there a mod for balatro that let's yiu view achievements in game?

[pale wolf]

In the case of specifically this font though, yeah I don't think it would be that hard to make one for Russian

[cloud sinew]

I installed m6x11 so i can type in notepad and krita and stuff in the balatro font

[pale wolf]

other fonts it's a much more complicated process but this one's kind of pixely

[cloud sinew]

wait i should see if there's a way to change discord's font so I make things more balatro

[prime valve]

Maybe there is, have tried searching for it?

[fringe nebula]

x13 at ante 5 🗿 🗿 🗿

[pale wolf]

Not that I know of

[green apex]

why do i find sock during hack builds/baron builds and mime for baron builds/hack builds and hack for mime builds/sock builds

[prime valve]

Because

[pale wolf]

confirmation bias

[patent sail]

i mean really its only a few letters that are really different nor a whole lot of adjustments would need to be made

only letter that might pose some issues would be Ы maybe idk

[fringe nebula]

am i dreaming

[pale wolf]

I should say Cyrillic not Russian

[patent sail]

yes, wake up

[pale wolf]

As if Russia gets a claim over the whole alphabet

[ancient gyro]

you are hallucinating

[pale wolf]

I think they are vamping

[patent sail]

i see what you did there

[patent sail]

i mean true but other languages that use cyrillic have extra letters of their own AND are different languages in their essence

[pale wolf]

when fonts are made for the alphabet they are made for all of them

[patent sail]

whats in game is specifically russian

[green apex]

right when i draw the 2 🤦‍♂️

[vocal rose]

times new roman

[fringe nebula]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[patent sail]

oh you meant the font

[fringe nebula]

what the actual fuck

[patent sail]

i thought you suggested the button to say Cyrillic

[green apex]

shoulda sold it for 8 bucks

[patent sail]

im a dumbass i guess

[pale wolf]

oh no lol

[patent sail]

yeah i get ut now

[pale wolf]

That would be very funny though

[patent sail]

im a certified idiot™️

[pale wolf]

I don't believe in the existence of Russia, only Cyrillia

[green apex]

why when we see the script we immediately think of russian instead of other languages that use cyrillic

[median scroll]

what did russia do

[patent sail]

as a russian i sure fucking wish it didnt exist 🐎🔥

[ancient gyro]

i like the women there

[pale wolf]

Cold War era propaganda, the size of Russia as compared to the other languages

[patent sail]

russia IS john propaganda

🐎

[pale wolf]

well they sure weren't dragging

[green apex]

idk why john reminds me of john batman

[patent sail]

a lot of things probably

[pale wolf]

I don't think that's his name

[green apex]

either way

[patent sail]

i mean its like the usual joke of "John X" when youre talking about something being an embodiment of the said X phenomenon

[fringe nebula]

how big will this canio be 😭

[green apex]

my 3rd sock ive seen before a hack, and 2 mimes

[pale wolf]

Big canio

[green apex]

actually ive seen a perishable hack

[patent sail]

fatass

[vocal rose]

I love fat asses

[patent sail]

another gem for the screenshot collection

[green apex]

relatable

[green apex]

also relatable

[vocal rose]

interesting

[green apex]

dont know the context

[fringe nebula]

x39 canio and observatory

[green apex]

so now im concerned

[pale wolf]

smallest canio i ever saw

[patent sail]

vampire carry

[pale wolf]

do better next time

[green apex]

how much is vampire at

[patent sail]

dw mine was X6 last time

[fringe nebula]

3.1

[pale wolf]

were you AFK

[ancient gyro]

top 10

[patent sail]

canio and trib in the same run

[green apex]

woah

thats big

[patent sail]

fighting for food

[green apex]

my latest canio was at 2x

[fringe nebula]

my smallest canio is x3

[patent sail]

i last saw him like 2 months ago

[pale wolf]

i stickered canio at 1x

[patent sail]

i literally get any legendary BUT him

[green apex]

then thats the smallest canio you have seen

[patent sail]

and of 5 times i ever seen canio only 1 i actually beat the run

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1384289808154886238/InShot_20250616_174955699.mp4?ex=69e74919&is=69e5f799&hm=80da9d5bb0ce039defe6ad0cc7fc1b6a3a9b14e2cd05d3fbc02f3a96042be481& but my eyes werent open when i was playing that game

So i never saw it

[green apex]

ohhh

fair

[patent sail]

the rest he stayed at X1 because of lack of destruction means

[ancient gyro]

zebra always plays the game with some sort of disability

[patent sail]

one time i sold ante 1 canio to get walkie talkie 🐎🔥🔥🔥🔥

[pale wolf]

if i took the training weights off I'd make everyone lose interest in the game bc id solve it

[patent sail]

losing interest? i need that money bro

[green apex]

nah I NEED that money to find a stupid hack

[calm furnace]

3 squares obelisk red card and pants

[pale wolf]

how

[gaunt burrow]

violet vessel

[calm furnace]

how what

[patent sail]

haha sometimes

[calm furnace]

i got obelisk late it was only at 4.8 x

[ancient gyro]

you wonder why I fully scale my jokers

[gaunt burrow]

guin in penguin is prob the best example

[calm furnace]

you cant always fully scale your jokers

[pale wolf]

the g in penguin gets emphasized tho

[calm furnace]

high card was 2 shotting each bind

in the last ante

[pale wolf]

penguin isnt an ng spund its pen guin

[ancient gyro]

g isn't supposed to be audible

[patent sail]

i wish women were real localthunk can you please invent them

[cloud sinew]

what

[patent sail]

no way.......l.....

[gaunt burrow]

my pronunciation suck

funny how there are 4 chips scaling jokers for every rarity expect lengendary

[green apex]

omg i forgot

easily my type

[cloud sinew]

what are the 4 chips scaling jokers that are rare

[green apex]

wee, wee, wee, wee

[upbeat burrow]

Man madness runs are a mess

[echo sphinx]

wee, wee, wee oo wee oo

[cloud sinew]

there's wee, and then there's a case to be made for burnt, but that's all

[echo sphinx]

doctor doctor

[green apex]

wee, wee, the 2nd wee and did i mention wee?

[calm furnace]

4 for each rarity? there is 12 chip scaling jokers in this game?

[gaunt burrow]

rarity tiers and not rare😭

[pale wolf]

mfw

[cloud sinew]

right and you said "for every rarity", which includes rare

[cloud sinew]

do we count blue joker 🙋‍♀️

[echo sphinx]

i would

[gaunt burrow]

ahh my wording is terrible , there are 4 scaling chips joker in the game ,one for each rarity expect legendary and common

[pale wolf]

they said it was funny, can't you guys understand that it was a joke shaking my head shaking my head

[calm furnace]

if ice cream and banner are scaling so is blue

[echo sphinx]

tho if i start counting blue joker i will start thinking of odd todd being scaling

scaling with triggers

and banner, scales with discards

[gaunt burrow]

and uncommon

[pale wolf]

This isn't making it better 🦓

[cloud sinew]

there are 4 scaling chips uncommons

[cloud sinew]

atp just say "there are scaling chips jokers"

[calm furnace]

im even more conufsed

[green apex]

common banner exists

justices dont exist i guess

[gaunt burrow]

i hope rare only has 1 chip scaling joker

[green apex]

FUCK YOU HACK

[gaunt burrow]

thats many??

[twilit apex]

wee joker

[pale wolf]

is delayed gratification a scaling joker

[green apex]

why do i have the debug mod enabled

[toxic cloak]

square, bull*, blue*, castle, hiker, wee

[green apex]

scales with discards hmm?

[calm furnace]

is banner is, delayed is

[green apex]

definition of scaling is interesting

[echo sphinx]

everything is scaling if you think hard enough

[cloud sinew]

not by balatrodle rules

[toxic cloak]

bull and blue are scalers if you scale their condition

[green apex]

balatrodle decides i guess

[calm furnace]

blue is scaling just like hologram

[toxic cloak]

if you dont count those, only chip scalers in game are square, castle, hiker, and wee

[pale wolf]

balatrodle rules mess people UP even though it is entirely accurate within its stated definitions

[gaunt burrow]

blue get 2 chips every cards you add in the deck , dont know if any body really build blue that way

[toxic cloak]

issue is that it isnt permanent

[pale wolf]

oh i didnt even include blue in my thing

That is actually true I guess it is a scalar technically

[calm furnace]

blue is permenant, it scales by card added to your deck

[toxic cloak]

hanged man

it gives chips per each card in deck

[cloud sinew]

the only one that i dont fully agree with is Oops not counting as RNG as it has a listed probability as an example in the joker text

[echo sphinx]

agree, got confused when i saw this

[green apex]

hmm??

why doesnt banner count

[pale wolf]

also strictly speaking misprint absolutely is scaling

[cloud sinew]

the values on the card dont change

[gaunt burrow]

how you exclude the bull? like it whole thing is scaling with money

[calm furnace]

thats crazy. blue scales up and down. how is ice cream scaling but blue is not

[cloud sinew]

but ISNT rng, which is funny

it's accurate but still funny

[toxic cloak]

i didnt exclude it

[echo sphinx]

thats so bruh lol

[toxic cloak]

its in the two that are "if you dont count those two"

[cloud sinew]

blue is scaling

it says "yes"

[toxic cloak]

but when does a balatro player ever know the context

KEKW

[pale wolf]

The funny part is that it's not because of how the mult changes, It's because of the Easter egg indicator

[echo sphinx]

literally just wording changes and suddenly no one can say if its scaling or not

[gaunt burrow]

but why those 2 ?

[cloud sinew]

it's a consistent definition

[toxic cloak]

because the card itself does not scale

but it provides increased chips if you scale a different condition

[cloud sinew]

how are you defining "the card itself" not scaling

[gaunt burrow]

to be fair there alot of jokers that fit in the "2"

[toxic cloak]

all the other ones give +chips to itself or the card played

they directly upgrade the chips

[echo sphinx]

+30 Chips for each remainding Discard
-# (Currently +60 Chips)

[toxic cloak]

the others provide chips based on another condition

[pale wolf]

balatrodle rules ask about the joker text, aka supernova and banner and hiker are not scaling

[cloud sinew]

banner doesnt say currently

[toxic cloak]

thats the distinction in my mind. i still think they are scalers

[echo sphinx]

hence this

[gaunt burrow]

love and hate balatro wording

[pale wolf]

for gameplay purposes blue isnt a scaling joker and supernova is
for balatrodle its the opposite

[echo sphinx]

the difference between a joker that says scaling and says not scaling is the inclusion of (Currently x), which i hate

[cloud sinew]

it would be scaling if it said "currently +.. chips"

[cloud sinew]

yes

the purpose of it is to have a consistent definition so that people can apply rules uniformly for balatrodle, not because it makes sense to apply that definition in every single edge case

[pale wolf]

i dont use balatrodle categories in actual gameplay decisionmaking 🦓 i use them for balatrodle

[echo sphinx]

i wouldn't consider blue joker to be scaling even when it is, but ig balatrodle works with what they got

[cloud sinew]

why would you not consider it to be scaling

[echo sphinx]

lets go guessing

[cloud sinew]

the value on the joker scales both up and down

[echo sphinx]

in gameplay i ment

when i see blue joker i dont see +100 chips or whatever amt is on the thing

i simply see it as (70-80 chips unless i start digging)

[green apex]

getting out of small blind with 3 hands, didnt draw a fucking pair 🤦‍♂️

[turbid nova]

I consider scaling jokers as those who have “currently” in the description

[echo sphinx]

lol

[echo sphinx]

balatrodle would agree with u

[turbid nova]

So for me things like blue and bull don’t count

[echo sphinx]

what

[cloud sinew]

blue and bull both have currently though

[turbid nova]

Oh

Nvm then

[echo sphinx]

they have Currently

ye

[turbid nova]

Then again supernova doesn’t have the number

[cloud sinew]

do you consider rocket to be scaling

[turbid nova]

But that’s for sure scaling

[pale wolf]

you'd be hard-pressed to tell me a functional difference in bull scaling vs banner scaling besides that banner doesnt have a number indicator on its description bc multiplying by 30 is too easy to need a display

they both directly read a number that's on the left of the screen and convert it into chips

[echo sphinx]

we should ask the question "is this scaling" starting from very obvious things until the jokers become unhinged

just to get a feel on when we start disagreeing

[turbid nova]

Scaling backwards

[echo sphinx]

is hologram scaling

[pale wolf]

obv

[turbid nova]

Yeah

[echo sphinx]

nice

is ice cream scaling

[pale wolf]

yea negatively scaling

[turbid nova]

I guess

[pale wolf]

if I say look for scalers and somebody picks up an ice cream I'm not going to say correct though

[cloud sinew]

scaling is implicitly positive until stated otherwise imo, so i would consider this to be negatively scaling

[echo sphinx]

is stencil scaling

[turbid nova]

No

[echo sphinx]

valid

[cloud sinew]

unsure

[pale wolf]

i wouldn't consider it scaling in gameplay purposes but for balatrodle it is

[turbid nova]

If stencil is scaling then so is abstract

Both depend on your number of jokers

[echo sphinx]

i should look in game

[cloud sinew]

stencil depends on the number of empty joker slots, not the number of jokers

[pale wolf]

is invisible joker scaling :)

[turbid nova]

I know but sorta

[echo sphinx]

negative scaling mmmm

[cloud sinew]

you could have 400 jokers, but as long as you have 404 joker slots then stencil will be +4x

[turbid nova]

Except for negatives it’s total slots - jokers

So yeah

[pale wolf]

☝️ 🦓

[echo sphinx]

it has the Currently

:thonk:

ok next joker

[pale wolf]

i think the real issue here is banner

why doesnt it have a (currently)

[echo sphinx]

is ramen scaling

[pale wolf]

yea

[echo sphinx]

(i think yes)

[wanton breach]

Oh, we got run discussion now, am i missusing this channel?

[turbid nova]

Yeah we counted ice cream

It scales negatively

[pale wolf]

technically but (nobody cares much)

[eager summit]

downscaling

[wanton breach]

Okay

[echo sphinx]

maybe i should ask the question for all food jokers tbh

[pale wolf]

I think for long protracted advice throughout a run that is a good channel to go to

[cloud sinew]

balatrodle in 4 SPOILERS ❗

[echo sphinx]

nexto

is egg/gift card scaling

[pale wolf]

wtf why didnt you warn me this would be spoilers

[eager summit]

yes

[turbid nova]

Yes

[cloud sinew]

yes

[eager summit]

they scale in worth

[cloud sinew]

if gift card didnt affect itself then i wouldn't consider it to be scaling

[echo sphinx]

this is opening some very dangerous floodgates

is hiker scaling

[cloud sinew]

no

[turbid nova]

It scales the cards

[pale wolf]

balatrodle in 5 bla bla

[cloud sinew]

yes or no

[turbid nova]

but it remains unchanged itself

I will say no

[pale wolf]

hiker is a scaling joker

it scales cards, the thing it is doing is scaling
and it is a joker

[turbid nova]

Hmm

[echo sphinx]

interesting

[green apex]

how good is trading card on goldstake due to the lack of discards

[pale wolf]

great

[echo sphinx]

top 20

or sm small number like that

[pale wolf]

card removal is amazing and the 3 bucks is cool too

[echo sphinx]

half a hanged man AND $3 for 1 discard

worth

[turbid nova]

Still good

[eager summit]

you only open flood gates if you interpret 1 small rain day as a critical snowmelt

[echo sphinx]

satisfied with answers

should move up the obvious ladder a bit

[turbid nova]

Is cloud 9 scaling?

[echo sphinx]

is hit the road scaling

[turbid nova]

Yes

[echo sphinx]

yes

[eager summit]

yes but why would you

[green apex]

damn

yall answered each other's questions

[pale wolf]

quintessential scaling econ

[echo sphinx]

ok back to degenerate areas

is To The Moon scaling

[pale wolf]

is he scaling

[turbid nova]

No

[echo sphinx]

my argument for yes: it scales with interest

[cloud sinew]

boolean effect, no

[turbid nova]

But it only provides up to a fixed amount

Scaling jokers should scale indefinitely

[pale wolf]

he is scaling?

[cloud sinew]

if mr bones is scaling then so is every conditional effect

[echo sphinx]

ice cream is much the same

[pale wolf]

so erosion isnt a scaler

[echo sphinx]

my poor seltzer isnt scaling

[eager summit]

yes, but not directly

[turbid nova]

Can’t say shit without getting like 4 counterexamples

Smh my head

[echo sphinx]

ill take that as yes but not directly

[cloud sinew]

that is what happens in a debate, yes

[pale wolf]

he's scaling for sure right?

[echo sphinx]

me when im in a information debate and i get conflicting and valid opinions

[echo sphinx]

interesting

[cloud sinew]

no

[turbid nova]

I guess satellite can’t scale indefinitely

It’s only up to the number of planets there exist

So 12

[echo sphinx]

its possible to make an argument that Raised FIst is scaling cuz the value scales on the smallest playing card in hand

[eager summit]

to the moon is scaling similarly to how abstract joker is scaling, it completely depends on you as a player

[turbid nova]

This is not scaling tho

More like the number changes each round

[green apex]

is it worth sacrificing interest for constellation scaling

[echo sphinx]

lol real

[echo sphinx]

blue joker also changes every round

[pale wolf]

he's scaling for sure, right? (-2x at end of round)

[turbid nova]

Yes but it’s continuous

-1 for every card you draw

[eager summit]

raised fist is scaling but it could be considered a scale that resets every hand as it doubles the number

[echo sphinx]

continuous
whole numbers

[cloud sinew]

thats also true for erosion; -4 for every card you add into your deck (until you reach the base deck size)

also green joker discarding

[turbid nova]

omg I don’t mean it like that

[echo sphinx]

hehhejhehjjshjes

[serene forge]

turtle bean is my favorite scaling joker

[echo sphinx]

whats zebra gonna post next

[turbid nova]

time to play my ultimate defense

[pale wolf]

scaling joker

[turbid nova]

English isn’t my first language

[cloud sinew]

prove it. show that it doesnt give x3 if you play a hand between rounds 😎

[noble shuttle]

Should I try to get C++ again?

[serene forge]

scales throwing away your money

[ancient gyro]

remind me in 40 minutes when this discussion topic offs itself

[eager summit]

no, but it helps you scale your build depending on your jokers

[echo sphinx]

lol

ok next

is Baseball Card scaling

[cloud sinew]

no

[pale wolf]

scaling joker

[echo sphinx]

lol

[ancient gyro]

reptile

[eager summit]

baseball card is scaling same way to the moon is scaling, it's completely player-dependent

[noble shuttle]

helo?

[serene forge]

is andy a scaling joker

[turbid nova]

jimbo is a scaling joker bc you can get infinite negative jimbos and each one gives +4

[pale wolf]

nobody should do c++ more than once

[cloud sinew]

why

[serene forge]

is zebra a scaling joker

[pale wolf]

because then its more than me

[noble shuttle]

lolz

[echo sphinx]

is cancer a scaling joker

[noble shuttle]

Now I have a reason >:3

[pale wolf]

yea i started out much smaller than i am today

[cloud sinew]

how is it "completely player-dependent", this seems incredibly vague and could be applied to anything

[eager summit]

bc you can just choose to not take uncommons

[pale wolf]

at the wee age of 0 i was born

[turbid nova]

loyalty card is a scaling joker because it scales from x1 to x4 every six hands and then resets back to x1

[cloud sinew]

so zany is scaling because you could choose to not play a 3oak

[pale wolf]

loyalty is a cyclically scaling joker

[echo sphinx]

its kinda of like saying ridethebus is like baseball card because its player dependent

[white coral]

Yall like my bull? ignore the disco rock collection

[turbid nova]

we can make an argument for literally every joker at this point

[eager summit]

no bc in the end it doesn't have a way to increase or decrease its effect

[pale wolf]

rtb isnt a scaling joker because it can reset to 0

[cloud sinew]

you could also make an argument for why balatro doesnt exist; that doesn't mean it isnt a good / logically sound argument

[turbid nova]

then campfire and hit the road aren't either

[shell dagger]

the dark titan of doom isn’t a scaling joker

[turbid nova]

and neither is green joker

[cloud sinew]

do you consider zany joker to be scaling

[shell dagger]

that’s because it isn’t a joker

[turbid nova]

or obelisk