🕹・game-discussion

[knotty zodiac]

top stuff

[mighty flume]

ask for the roffle special, if you're lucky you will get photochad

[patent sail]

infinite comedic value

[patent sail]

if i get photochad im holding R

[gaunt burrow]

how do you check your achievement in game ?

[patent sail]

in game yoy cant i think

on steam page

[gaunt burrow]

have anyone try this build yet

look very fun

[patent sail]

go my whatever!

[gaunt burrow]

plasma deck too!

[patent sail]

whats lusty contributing here

better off killing him for dice or somethin

[gaunt burrow]

i think it turn into a straight flush build mid game or smt

nvm

but stunt man in a straight flush build is sound so promising

[knotty zodiac]

so confused how does stuntmant help with strush

[gaunt burrow]

it doesnt

it jst decrease your handsize and +250 chips

[slow iris]

why is brainstorm copying red card

sob

[gaunt burrow]

nothing make sense here

[crude dirge]

can someone confirm im not crazy in #🕹・run-discussion , that I gotta pass on the legendary?

[gaunt burrow]

why the holo jack not on the front

[rotund bloom]

My new favourite combo

It's so easy and makes like 30k per hand

[echo sphinx]

died

what we thinking chat

i could take here win

but should i

[knotty zodiac]

is it ever not bus?

[lunar zealot]

Bus gives you a sticker

[lunar zealot]

Only if it would be fun

[echo sphinx]

IM RER STICKER

[echo sphinx]

fuck

cant escape it

[knotty zodiac]

ah yes, the premo experience of not having scaling mult

how fun

[echo sphinx]

juggler or trou or paint and i win

do we gamba

im itchin

[slow iris]

weeeeeeeee

[echo sphinx]

ok

[knotty zodiac]

chips mult econ

is wee gamba?

feels like its just good

[echo sphinx]

nah

wee is the normal take

[knotty zodiac]

oh you were thinking pack?

[echo sphinx]

yes

[knotty zodiac]

could be a rebate

or a blueprint

or a showman

[echo sphinx]

foil banner

[knotty zodiac]

lol rly?

[echo sphinx]

sell and get wee

yep

speculative strength

[knotty zodiac]

strength on the 7s or the 2s?

aces**

geez i really need sleep lol

[echo sphinx]

good enuf

[knotty zodiac]

or the kings

[echo sphinx]

both

[knotty zodiac]

so many strength targets

[echo sphinx]

and king if i tarotmax

[pallid galleon]

@bronze widget another day of $2000 rerolls and not finding a bean

[tardy spade]

If you have multiple cards of the same rank and suit but with different enhancements, what order do they sort in when you sort your hand?

[echo sphinx]

o shit

I SWEAR EVERY TIME

wee shows up

then Hack shows up

[rustic aspen]

Insane

Ante 6 and duping glass kings, flush five angle maybe?

[pallid galleon]

#🕹・game-discussion message
i think we manifested your lineup earlier

[rustic haven]

huh.

[echo sphinx]

guys what do i do

what the fuckkk

[rustic haven]

certiiii

[echo sphinx]

FOR WHO

[rustic haven]

oh

[echo sphinx]

sorry i shouted

[rustic aspen]

Lmao nice

[echo sphinx]

in text

[rustic haven]

whats bus as

at

[echo sphinx]

21

[rustic haven]

hrm so no

its either 8 ball or u move on

and lowkey

id move on

[echo sphinx]

its rhe only +mult other than nonexistent planets

[rustic haven]

how many lucky u have?

[echo sphinx]

10

8ball putting in serious work lol

[rustic haven]

that is

tricky

and wee ur only chips

[echo sphinx]

yep

[rustic haven]

hear me out

lucky over holo

[echo sphinx]

john balatro build meets goated jojer

[rustic haven]

whats holo at? like 1.75

2.25?

around that area

[echo sphinx]

3 lol

[rustic haven]

well

4 lucky hits

[echo sphinx]

so hard

[rustic haven]

with hack

ez

[echo sphinx]

i like the thinking

[rustic haven]

could you survive the

power dip

for a few blinds?

[echo sphinx]

its red stake surely

[rustic haven]

hm, yeah fuck it honestly

certi would be nice to get like

a red seal hackable card or a red seal 8

but

unfortunately you might have to get that out of a standard

bc everything else too valuable

also youll have a bit of xmult still with your poly

and even 1 lucky hit makes a differnce

manifesting negative oops next ante

[rustic haven]

i love bloodstone

full econ

trust

[rustic haven]

me

[hoary moon]

yes

bloodstone bad

[rustic haven]

nuh uh

bloodstone is good to me

but lowkey arrowhead better

[echo sphinx]

i lost power
however

[rustic haven]

oh yeah

[echo sphinx]

i still oneshot

[rustic haven]

we scalin now

[echo sphinx]

i went from 300k to 80k

lol

[hoary moon]

bloodstone is a bottom 15 jerker

[rustic haven]

a WHAT?

[hoary moon]

u had basicaly won

[hoary moon]

a bad joker

[rustic haven]

thats not what you said at first...

[echo sphinx]

it could be funnier tho

YOU

WHAT

[rustic haven]

welp

twin hear me out

fuck hack

ehh nvm

fuck 8ball

[echo sphinx]

8ball blueprijt is double the tarots though

fuckkkkk

[rustic haven]

true

[echo sphinx]

WHY SO HARD GAME

[rustic haven]

whats ur planet at?

idk what ur playing for so

[echo sphinx]

lv4 mars

lv3 venus

[rustic haven]

8's?

[echo sphinx]

lv4 mercury and plout

[echo sphinx]

have 8 8s

and 8 2s

[rustic haven]

and how many hackable cards that are usable?

oh

hm

twin lowkey hear me out

[echo sphinx]

is it wee

[rustic haven]

i like getting funny numbers

[echo sphinx]

actually

[rustic haven]

and the only way ur gonna do that

[echo sphinx]

we havent thought of bus yet

[rustic haven]

is with red seal 2's

red seal lucky 2's with hack

[echo sphinx]

i still oneshot blinds

[rustic haven]

which scales lucky and wee

[icy hollow]

Sell it all for the jusgement 🗣️

[rustic haven]

so fuck 8ball imo

[echo sphinx]

if i could get deja

[rustic haven]

but do what you want

its ur run, but me personally im dropping 8ball and going all in on 2's

[echo sphinx]

i will drop BUS MMMM

[rustic haven]

not a bad drop either

if you think your base mult is high enough

just dont get hit by fliny

flint

😭

[echo sphinx]

is fine

i have the power of gambling

1 in 5 lets go

[rustic haven]

real

i lost this run btw

got a brainstorm too

guess i went too silly with the econ

[echo sphinx]

RAHHHHHH

DECKFIXINGGGG

[pallid galleon]

planet levels are huge for survivability

[rustic haven]

trust me i had them

[echo sphinx]

MMMMMMMMM

WHO NEEDS PLANETS

[meager bridge]

Was going crazy wit this build (im fairly new to the game)

[rustic haven]

i got very bad draws on the water

[meager bridge]

Bottom 5 experience

[rustic haven]

lol

especially playing for 3-5oak kings

😭

i had 16 of them mfs at ante 5

and drew 3

[meager bridge]

😭😭😭

[rustic haven]

bottom decking god i guess

[pallid galleon]

oh yeah the water sucks

[echo sphinx]

YES
YESSSSSSS

MMMMMMMMM

every hoshbomb's wee run ends like this

[rustic haven]

W

[meager bridge]

Balatro for 16 hours straight??

[echo sphinx]

always

[rustic haven]

im committed

[echo sphinx]

somehow

[rustic haven]

i want my first naneinf

[meager bridge]

Lock in

[rustic haven]

i need some wendys bro

[pallid galleon]

you are on the right track

[rustic haven]

im broke ash

[pallid galleon]

gotta go all in on econ

[rustic haven]

thank you turtle

i shall perservere

dont remember how to spell that

im ngl

nvm fuck bloodstone im going back to spades that couldve been golden joker

[meager bridge]

Bloodstone + chequered deck

😛😛

[rustic haven]

i hate bloodstone

[meager bridge]

Just need the dice

[rustic haven]

waste of a joker slot

[echo sphinx]

it has been an honor 8ball

[rustic haven]

lmao

[glass creek]

Balatro!!!!!!!!

[rustic haven]

balato!!!

[echo sphinx]

o7

[rustic haven]

W

ggs

[echo sphinx]

8ballatro

[noble mango]

bananatro

[rustic haven]

embrace banana

[echo sphinx]

atro

[rustic haven]

death.

[echo sphinx]

give me a deck to play

[rustic haven]

black deck orange stake

[echo sphinx]

no orange

i purpke

[noble mango]

sealatro

[rustic haven]

black deck purple stake

[noble mango]

black deck black stake or yellow gold deck gold stake

[rustic haven]

what about

blue deck blue stake

[noble mango]

green deck green stake

~~plasma stake ~~

[rustic haven]

😭

blinds are 20x bigger

yk

[noble mango]

nah
make it jsut 2x

[rustic haven]

technically econ joker?

[noble mango]

2x ramp up

[noble mango]

only if the planets decides "nah id not show up"

[rustic haven]

😭

[noble mango]

that said id take nat negative astronomer all day everyday

[echo sphinx]

GUYS IM GONNA HEX

MMMMMMMMMM

[rustic haven]

huh.

[echo sphinx]

ok but actually what would you do here

the shop has pants and square

[rustic haven]

trance...?

you have enough, take both

get rid of clown

[echo sphinx]

aww no hex

[rustic haven]

no

[echo sphinx]

ehy not :(

[rustic haven]

not worth

you lose golden

[echo sphinx]

aww dangit

[strange abyss]

nuking your build for 1.5x mult doesn't sound that good

[rustic haven]

^

[strange abyss]

pants and square are also not scaled yet so that 1.5x mult is gonna have to pull it's weight

[rustic haven]

yur

also losing your golden means its gonna be harder to roll for other jokers

[rustic haven]

to fill in that void

okay well thats just fish moment

xd

[echo sphinx]

lol

[flat tiger]

has to be the best Baseball card run I did, even when Mime is pulling like 70% of the weight alone

[rustic haven]

sheesh

W

whats next to card sharp?

[flat tiger]

blackboard

[rustic haven]

ah

negative blackboard is weird

W tho

[flat tiger]

didnt even need card sharp lol just got one shot

[rustic haven]

W sticker on aces joker

[rustic haven]

😭

[flat tiger]

at some point I realize mime is just one shotting blinds with only a few steel cards

I am always grateful Spaceman give me 2 levels before perish

i god damn hate spaceman

[rustic haven]

lmfao

[flat tiger]

my spaceman either bring me to lv30 at ante 8 boss or I got lv5

[mystic vale]

is ts relatable

[rustic haven]

yes

W wraith hit

[flat tiger]

I slept on Vampire for too long, still get X3 without much trouble even with only 3 ante

[strange compass]

Underrated ship?

Vag and Fortune

[flat tiger]

Fourtune teller is the best, he remembers, unlike almost every other joekrs

[strange compass]

This was a pure straight run too

500+ chips from both the runners

[flat tiger]

the wee hack combo

[strange compass]

Although my Saturn is only at lvl 3

[flat tiger]

runners running

accidental straight flush lol

[strange compass]

Nice I just won rn too

Ante 8 Anaglyph deck negative skip is so funny

[flat tiger]

Obelisk run came to an end

not like I can survive anyway

[noble mango]

Does anybody remember this guy

[tranquil cedar]

potato without the mine

[rustic haven]

hm okay

[tranquil cedar]

i go banana right?

[rustic haven]

this a much better run

[unreal topaz]

blue seal is probably more than 1.5x your score by the end

esp w death upstairs

[unreal topaz]

yeah, banana is the safer play but AJ prob works too

[flat tiger]

what are you supposed to do with ancient joker in ante 1

hell i cant even make use of ancient joker that well even with like 8-10 wild cards, you need enough wild card and then Chad or something

[strange compass]

What kinda potato mine is this

[rustic haven]

BRO

IM TIRED OF LOSING THESE RUNS MAN

I HAVENT EVEN BEEN PAYING ATTENTION WHY DO I HAVE ONYX AND ARROW

😭

son

goated ass seed too

[strange compass]

I was replaying this seed I found where I had AJ shop 1 and 3 copy jokers before ante 3 and died on ante 11 cuz I accidentally played HC over flush

[rustic haven]

oh wow

[strange compass]

Happens

[rustic haven]

MAN FUCK THAT HAPPENS BULL

IM DOOKIE SHIT

why do i have arrow and onyx bro

im throwing

[strange compass]

I remember a run where I was using half joker and I found square and immediately bought it thinking it'll scale with half joker

[pallid galleon]

nah mid seed fr

[rustic haven]

yeah u right

[rustic haven]

😭

[pallid galleon]

we go next

if you died its cause the seed was ass

[rustic haven]

ty for being on this journey with me turtle

i still dont know like

cuz ik how to hit the burglar + serpent naneinf

but idk like game state ig of when i should be focusing things

like i feel like im greeding too much for econ

as shown here

[pallid galleon]

https://balatrowiki.org/w/Guide:_naneinf this guide usually has most of the answers

[rustic haven]

lost again

i get like half my build then just lose

frustrating

[waxen fable]

in the first 4 antes ur supposed to save as much money as possible n setup a massive econ engine when given the chance

[rustic haven]

yeah i had that with 2 of my other runs

but lost

bc ig i just had shit chip/mult jokers

got an antimatter ante 4 on the last run too

like fuck bro

[waxen fable]

got naneinf same run

[rustic haven]

good for you man YOURE SO GREAT AND IM A LOSER WAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[pallid galleon]

honestly just from this screenshot alone i can already see things that you are doing wrong

[rustic haven]

i hate you

[waxen fable]

yes

[rustic haven]

yeah not holding r when i dont get any econ jokers for 3 antes is what im doing wrong

[strange compass]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1489997744058925247
You think this seed has naneinf potential?

[pallid galleon]

sure

[woven spire]

yeah

[strange compass]

I have a couple seeds that I am thinking of attempting naneinfs on

[waxen fable]

alot of copy jokers but dunno if dats doable

because naneinf potential isn't just having lots of copy jokers

[pallid galleon]

you can easily squeeze more value out of your econ jokers by digging for cards using your hands first instead of discarding

[waxen fable]

the problem starts when u talk about spectrals and vouchers

[rustic haven]

and lose because i have 0 scoring

[strange compass]

If you're playing on plasma stake, you can just copy your Stuntman and beat ante 8

[waxen fable]

yes

[rustic haven]

bc i need atleast 2 hands for card sharp

[waxen fable]

but it might not naneinf

because again

[pallid galleon]

ante 1 white plasma deck you can win with your eyes closed

[waxen fable]

vouchers and spectrals are one thing

[strange compass]

I see

[rustic haven]

obv not

like what are these shops dawg

[waxen fable]

why are you worried about this that early

[flat tiger]

2 min reset is betterthen a Ante 7 lost but you have holo

[pallid galleon]

it just comes down to how skilled you are at value squeezing

[rustic haven]

i want econ

[waxen fable]

save money jit

[pallid galleon]

knowing how to dig in your deck and also not die

like ante 1 boss blind, you can usually play some pairs and a two pair and win

[noble mango]

Potato

[waxen fable]

"naneinf potential" isnt blueprint brainstorm on ante 1

u are missing alot of parts to say that

[woven spire]

If yall don’t want to do seeded naneinfs but don’t like to reroll forever for a decent seed just do filtered

[rustic haven]

im not saying that

idc abt copy jokers

[strange compass]

I have gotten better at that

[rustic haven]

lmao

i just want my econ and to not die

[strange compass]

What is that

[noble mango]

Me after grabbing a nat neg blieprint and brainstorm on ante 1 and 2

Dies
Absolutely no scoring joker and im broke as hell

[waxen fable]

also watch dr spectred

[rustic haven]

seems everytime i just end up greeding for econ

[waxen fable]

this guy can get naneinf with his eyes closed whether the seed is "unlucky" or not

[rustic haven]

and losing

[woven spire]

Filtering seeds, Lets say you want a blueprint in the 1st round, there’s a mod that looks for a seed with that and makes you play it, so you don’t have to reroll forever

[waxen fable]

brainstorm mod

[woven spire]

yep

[strange compass]

Ohhhh

[waxen fable]

but if u want to be a skilled nanlet don't use dat

vanilla is more fun

[rustic haven]

😭

[noble mango]

How many seeds are there

[rustic haven]

ask minecraft

[woven spire]

it’s a good start imo

[strange compass]

Well I primarily play on my phone so mods are not an option

[strange compass]

Ye I've saved some seeds I thought can naneinf while doing all the deck stakes

Attempting naneinf on seeds you found feels more sentimental

Like "oh I am better now"

[flat tiger]

I love how not a single glass broke from ante 7 to 11, and zero hanged man showed up

[strange compass]

I just had a run where I played 3 HCs with a glass and they all broke

[flat tiger]

NOT A SINGLE ONE BROKE

i only got glass to break when I have glass joker in challenge mode but that was still only 3 of them, I never had any glass broke when I have glass joker

[echo sphinx]

me when uhh. unlucky

that achievement is balls

what

yeah thats a reset

[rustic haven]

ew

[pallid galleon]

W seed

[rustic haven]

damn

[echo sphinx]

shop has eternal egg

[pallid galleon]

ope

[rustic haven]

😭

[rustic haven]

DAM

gimme ur seed turtle

seed luck*

[pallid galleon]

????

[rustic haven]

BRO

wraith it

bp

[pallid galleon]

the arcana and spectral pack both have a soul??

[rustic haven]

ez

wild

[pallid galleon]

wraith was campfire

[rustic haven]

cooked

reset go soul

onb

[pallid galleon]

yorkci

[rustic haven]

not bad early ig

[flat tiger]

you are on black deck you are fine to take splash TBH

[echo sphinx]

what is splash gonna do bro

[rustic haven]

😭

i mean

splash is good early

[pallid galleon]

dawg xmult does NOTHING early game in plasma

[echo sphinx]

no its dogshit early

[rustic haven]

okay fair

[echo sphinx]

i have 3 hands and splash is not going to help

[rustic haven]

arent chips like best early

on plasma

[flat tiger]

fib and stuff

[echo sphinx]

i dont have the stuff

[flat tiger]

and chips are good early

[echo sphinx]

i have zany if you want

chips is dogshit early

[flat tiger]

black deck is like the best deck to get a double eternal not-too-useful joker rolls

[echo sphinx]

bro black deck is brutal

[flat tiger]

if you get that on painted you have to skip 100% of the time

[echo sphinx]

it gives 2 discard and 3 hands

if there's no +mult i cannot guarantee survival

[flat tiger]

if you get double eternal on painted you ahve to skip, you can stil ltake it on black

theres no guarantee survival...

you can and will low roll at times

[echo sphinx]

there is guarantee survival

unless its black

[flat tiger]

you can just stuck with no scoring on the boss and only draw the debuffed suit, happens

or just dont draw a second 5 card hand

[echo sphinx]

have u played black deck

[flat tiger]

I am 116/120 of cos I did, I beat black deck with was less reset/time then painted and plasma, by a lot

[echo sphinx]

thank god ok pls help me

[flat tiger]

black deck is just 2 min reset, when you get pass it its easy

and you get 2 min reset if you low roll anyway

[echo sphinx]

mmm gamba

[rustic haven]

eternal rocket peak

[echo sphinx]

whatchu takin

[rustic haven]

eternal rocket

[echo sphinx]

damn

[rustic haven]

wouldnt have even open that buffoon

ima be real

[echo sphinx]

black deck is bit sus for round 1 rocket

[flat tiger]

clean spaceman is not even bad

[errant brook]

Just completed C+ on Mobile, question now is whether to bother going for C++ or not there too

I also don't feel like doing all the challenges so maybe not

[rustic haven]

yeah im done with these runs

goodnight chat

[echo sphinx]

holy fuck the game gave me 4oak

[flat tiger]

painted and plasma took way longer like 3 times longer then black deck for me, on basically any stake after purple

[echo sphinx]

thats crazy

i thought painted would be like good cuz 2 handsize is madness

[flat tiger]

black deck is just 2 min reset or you win

[echo sphinx]

plasma is plasma

[pallid galleon]

this seed is so juicy

[echo sphinx]

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

negatve uranus.

[rustic haven]

fuck you

[flat tiger]

how are you surviving

[echo sphinx]

plasma white stake lol

[pallid galleon]

thats up to you to think about

[rustic haven]

gotta be planets

[echo sphinx]

i somehow fail to believe u played every deck

[flat tiger]

i heard so much about black deck and I just beat it like any deck before it, then hard stuck on purple + painted/Plasma

[rustic haven]

i got off and looked at my other games then went

hm

[flat tiger]

need so much RNG

[rustic haven]

i wanna play balatro

[echo sphinx]

painted has like neg rng while black deck is most rng :thonk:

after black deck is plasma

plasma is lol deck

500 chips/mult or. cant

[flat tiger]

its RNG for 2 min, who cares, you get pass 2 min you just win with 6 joker easy

[turbid nova]

Where are your scoring jokers

[echo sphinx]

must be the planets

red seal surprisingly goes a long way despite being probably the worst seal

worst seal stil better than average spectral om

[flat tiger]

red seal gold or red seal steel goes hard when you have multiple

[pallid galleon]

glorp

[flat tiger]

in theory red seal lucky is good too, but at the end you are jsut waiting for luck

[echo sphinx]

oh my days

that's naneinf potential right there

just get a cryptid in hand and you're set for it

[rustic haven]

bru.

[echo sphinx]

later seed @pallid galleon

[rustic haven]

turtle you hate me

[turbid nova]

Honestly in gold stake the least useful seal is purple imo

And the best is blue

[flat tiger]

red and purple are both "when and what it hits on"

[echo sphinx]

purple is a bit lol

just put anywhere and it works

[flat tiger]

red seal steel is really good

[turbid nova]

Yeah

[echo sphinx]

discarding in general is not expanded on much

[turbid nova]

And glass

[echo sphinx]

i default my purple seal on jacks

[flat tiger]

one of the reason I hate using green joker

[shell dagger]

nah red

purple turns bad cards good, red turns good cards better

[digital bone]

red is useful asl

[shell dagger]

no doubt but the other seals are better

[digital bone]

steel + red seal + mime

gold.

with no retrigs

[shell dagger]

so only good if you already have good enhancements

[digital bone]

gold is so situatioal

useless seal unless u do bootstraps or bull

[shell dagger]

lol okay

[digital bone]

Chad is the only thing tht makes gold seal useful tbh

ur better off using luckies trying to hit the 1/15

[shell dagger]

no you aren’t

[waxen fable]

tarots are money

[shell dagger]

gold seal has better EV

[waxen fable]

and deckfixing

both makes score

[tranquil steppe]

Effort value is in Balatro?

[waxen fable]

we are saying anything

[shell dagger]

expected value

[digital bone]

red seals have a lot of synergy

gold seal is a white stake seal imo

[turbid nova]

EV training my yorick rn

[shell dagger]

im not saying red seals are bad

[flat tiger]

gold card is easier to make use of then gold seal

[tranquil steppe]

What are his IVs?

[shell dagger]

im saying they’re the worst seal in gold stake

[waxen fable]

yes

[digital bone]

red seals have saved my ass in gold stake more than golds

[flat tiger]

blue > red~purple > gold

red glass red steel red gold are all great

[digital bone]

golds have sold my runs so much

[waxen fable]

without a joker to support it it practically does nothing except for some extra chips

[flat tiger]

even red lucky is decently good

[digital bone]

a single red seal king w mimaron is 1.5x^3

[waxen fable]

red seals werent the one saving you

[digital bone]

then what was

[waxen fable]

its the jokers and enhancements

[fringe nebula]

blue > purple > gold > red

[gentle basalt]

this is pretty wrong, its like blue >>>> purple > gold >> red

[shell dagger]

ur using mime baron in a gold stake argument…

[waxen fable]

w victor bias guys

[digital bone]

without the red seal I would have scored 200 under on my final hand

[waxen fable]

ill glaze baron mime being the best gold stake joker just cuz i win a gs run wit dat bullshit build

[digital bone]

I do baron runs in gold stake

[gentle basalt]

3 1.5x multiplied by 15 is still < 100

[shell dagger]

i win gold stake runs

[waxen fable]

without the enhancement or joker scoring*

[waxen fable]

ok

[digital bone]

with*

[flat tiger]

when mime is doing like most of the work

[digital bone]

fantoms preview said I was 200 under before the red seal

[flat tiger]

nah, gold is just $3 and you have to score with it, red can double gold card lucky steel glass

[fringe nebula]

gold stake is more about being able to beat ante 8 efficiently. Trying to make red seal work on gold stake costs too much money compared to the usual methods

[waxen fable]

blue seals are free chips and mult
purple are tarots and i dont have to explain why always getting tarots aregood
gold is quite literally money

red is useless until u have something to support it

[shell dagger]

red on a gold card is also “just” $3 extra

[waxen fable]

its like getting chad but ther e is nothing else to support it

[flat tiger]

red seal gold is $6, and gold card is easier to benifit then gold seal

[digital bone]

gold seal needs retrigs to be useful

[fringe nebula]

wrong

[shell dagger]

does the gold card cease to exist without the red seal?

[waxen fable]

....

[fringe nebula]

$3 is useful

[waxen fable]

any money gain is useful

[digital bone]

you don't even hit an interest point with no retrigs

[gentle basalt]

so gold cards are useless too?

[shell dagger]

therefore the red seal is $3

[earnest totem]

mfw i miscounted how many cryptids i'd need so instead of naneinf i get -nan

[digital bone]

gold cards have synergies

gold seal doesnt

[gentle basalt]

what?

[shell dagger]

do you have any mods installed

[waxen fable]

what

[flat tiger]

without red it is still $3, and you dont need to score with it

[gentle basalt]

golden cards have no synergies that seals dont (except mime)

[earnest totem]

i do it just made me laugh LOL

[waxen fable]

bro is just straight up undervaluing 3 dollars gain

son

[fringe nebula]

gold seal doesn't need any synergy for it to work

red seal needs a support to work

[gentle basalt]

nvm i was wrong

[digital bone]

golden ticket,red seal, mime

[gentle basalt]

but still

[earnest totem]

what did i tab into

[shell dagger]

the mods caused -nan, not the lack of cryptids

[gentle basalt]

ticket is not synergy

[waxen fable]

genuinely stop glazing red seals

[gentle basalt]

seals already get that

[earnest totem]

no no ik

[waxen fable]

dont glaze anything in this game if u rely on synergy argument

[shell dagger]

or too many cryptids idk

[earnest totem]

gold seals are insane btw thats my 2 cents

#swag

[digital bone]

ticket gives $4 not $3

[flat tiger]

red seal doubles any card effect, its not "good" when you put it on a clean random card

[tranquil steppe]

That’s a floral decoration, like a wreath

[digital bone]

if you put it on a face card there's many uses

[shell dagger]

and every other seal makes an unenhanced card good

[digital bone]

10 and 4 for walkie talkie

2 for wee

[fringe nebula]

again, you kinda need to invest alot of money and find several hangmans to make red seal usable on gold stake

[digital bone]

ace for scholar

[shell dagger]

which is our argument for why red is the worst seal

[digital bone]

just get better econ then

[fringe nebula]

gold seal don't have that issue

[earnest totem]

what

[shell dagger]

gold seal is the econ

[earnest totem]

just get better econ is fucking insane

[waxen fable]

what

[fringe nebula]

jokes on you man, this is gold stake

[shell dagger]

also u can’t just pick and choose your jokers in gold stake

[waxen fable]

genuinely smartest baron mime player

[tranquil steppe]

Econ is a myth

[digital bone]

I make upwards of 1500 on gold stake

[earnest totem]

ur faker then idk

[shell dagger]

you do not, at least not on an average run

[fringe nebula]

how many attempts?

[flat tiger]

you need to be able to play it to get $3

[shell dagger]

is that really so hard

[fringe nebula]

in how many runs can you get that much money

[digital bone]

from 500 gold stake runs I make an average of 1473

[earnest totem]

LFMAO

UR LEGIT THE BEST PLAYER EVER

IDK

[digital bone]

it's all luck in this game

[flat tiger]

it is a lot easier to use otehr seals, they create more value when you get them, just by holding it, or put red seal on glass/lucky/steel/gold

[earnest totem]

???

nope im not taking this bait

have a gn everyone

[digital bone]

I have gotten over 350 God seeds

[waxen fable]

yep luck argument no #1245

[shell dagger]

ur just repeating the same argument and it’s not working

[digital bone]

like seed wise

[flat tiger]

i can say the same to you

[shell dagger]

then there’s no point in continuing

[fringe nebula]

ikr

[digital bone]

if ur seed sucks and u get no econ jokers then you don't get econ

[tranquil steppe]

Do we have judges here to determine the winner?

[shell dagger]

people here actually try to win every seed, not just the good ones

[fringe nebula]

that's why gold seal is better on gold stake

consistency in beating ante 8 > big number

[waxen fable]

dats why we shouldn't undervalue any econ gain in gs

[flat tiger]

by win all seed you mean just try until you find the right combination of choices to get the stuff you need?

[tranquil steppe]

Well some people here yes. I’ve seen some who skip bad starts and go for a new seed

[shell dagger]

what

[digital bone]

idk if it's js me but gold seals never show up even when I have average deck fixing

[fringe nebula]

not everyone

[earnest totem]

wat

[waxen fable]

your problem man

not a gold seal problem shut up

[digital bone]

thts why I say they're useless

[shell dagger]

no i mean try to win every seed on a first attempt and not just reset the run if you get bad econ

[digital bone]

cs it's just like red seals

[waxen fable]

dude

[earnest totem]

how are u comparing

[fringe nebula]

yeah this is stupid

[earnest totem]

gold seals to red seals

[flat tiger]

yet still loses when low rolling

[shell dagger]

i dont

[digital bone]

both need deck fixing to work

[fringe nebula]

no

[waxen fable]

baron mime users dni

red seal glazers dni

[earnest totem]

are u larping gold stake wins or what are you saying to me

[tranquil steppe]

Oh wow people pulling out the ole “shut up”

[digital bone]

I have c++ btw I know what I'm talking abt

[earnest totem]

yes so do i

[fringe nebula]

you don't

[waxen fable]

i have dat shit too idc

[shell dagger]

c++ is an endurance test

most people here have it

[waxen fable]

me when i lie

[digital bone]

word?

[earnest totem]

how does that make gold seal any worse

[fringe nebula]

c++ means nothing if you don't know how to consistently beat ante 8

[earnest totem]

u said u average 1437 dollars across 500 gold stake runs

i THINK ur larping.

[waxen fable]

i have c++ and im saying red seals is better than everything else cuz of baron and mime. expert opinion here so y'all should just stfu

[fringe nebula]

red seal is not just consistent enough to be better than gold

[waxen fable]

my luck is better than you and that makes me better than you

[digital bone]

think again

[shell dagger]

this is why i put Card Player in my name

[waxen fable]

ok

[earnest totem]

lowkey a truth nuke

74 hours

that explains it actually

[flat tiger]

C++ in 74 hours?

[shell dagger]

i dislike people using c++ as something to strengthen an argument

[digital bone]

yes

[waxen fable]

bring up your gs winstreak guys

real talk shyt

[fringe nebula]

yeah i have 11 gold stake winstreak

🗣️

[digital bone]

i js lost my ws

[flat tiger]

C++ is literally just get a win with a joker slot to spare, like what are people even on about C++ being anything meaningful

[digital bone]

cs i had a HORRID seed

[shell dagger]

500 runs in 74 hours is 1 win every 10 minutes

ure just straight up lying

[earnest totem]

what was the seed

[waxen fable]

damn bro ur luck better than mine. im so SHIT bro

[earnest totem]

no hes not

let him cook!

[shell dagger]

real

[fringe nebula]

that aside

[earnest totem]

ngl red seals better on average

average gold stake run zzz

[fringe nebula]

red seal can get easily countered by debuff boss and many others

[shell dagger]

red seal is clearly the best for gold stake. also i love barone

[fringe nebula]

relying on card enhancements for scoring is not usually something i would do

[flat tiger]

you dont get to choose its the game throwing things at you and you catch the best you can

who doesnt want blue seal early and good econ every game

[shell dagger]

you don’t get to choose which is why the extra econ from gold seal reduces the variance by giving you more options in the shop

[flat tiger]

gold card is both easier to get and easier to use

[gloomy current]

pablo escobar

[shell dagger]

the situation is red seal vs gold seal, how easy seals are to get vs gold cards is irrelevant

[earnest totem]

nyablo escobarbie

[shell dagger]

i don’t think anyone’s saying gold seals are better than gold cards here

[flat tiger]

you dont pick a random gold seal card just like you dont pick a rnadom red seal card without anything else on it

[fringe nebula]

well you see

[shell dagger]

i do tho

[fringe nebula]

you can freely bloat your deck because of pair build

✅

[shell dagger]

money is money

[gloomy current]

minimo sos colom

[bold gyro]

How good is blackboard?

[shell dagger]

and the gold seal gives me money now instead of the red seal potentially making future money options stronger

[flat tiger]

you bloat your deck with one gold seal hoping you can even draw and and when you do its only $3

[shell dagger]

i value the short term more

[tranquil steppe]

I’m sad they ended narcos

[fringe nebula]

one of the strongest jokers

[fringe nebula]

"only" go play more gold stake man

[shell dagger]

it’s not bloating your deck if the thing you’re adding is better than every other card

[gloomy current]

🥀

[bold gyro]

blackboard or cloud 9?

[flat tiger]

and throwing away a hand to get $3 means you get only $2 now

[fringe nebula]

blackboard

[gloomy current]

you're the most random thing i've seen in a long time congrats

[shell dagger]

the money lost from throwaway hands is most relevant in the earlygame, where a red seal is unlikely to have any enhancement

midgame you throw away hands for many reasons anyway

[earnest totem]

thanks man

[fringe nebula]

you may say that about gold seal, but that argument makes red seal seem alot worse than gold seal

[bold gyro]

how do I use blackboard?

seems hard

[shell dagger]

play high card/pair

[bold gyro]

trying to do a 2 pair build

[shell dagger]

then it’s easy to throw away red suits

[flat tiger]

you dont use red seal like a gold seal, you are making a trad off when you use a hand on the gold seal, you dont HAVE to use a red seal theres no trade off

[tranquil steppe]

Or a lot of deck fixing to change suits to mostly black

[bold gyro]

ok I'll try high card/pair build

[fringe nebula]

you need to play a hand to score point anyway

what's the difference

[knotty zodiac]

i had 501 wins in 73 hours. gold seals are better than red. case closed

[waxen fable]

thanks bro

[shell dagger]

damn

[shell dagger]

i also make 1744 dollars on average

green seals are the best

[flat tiger]

every throwaway hand is $1 and you only get $3 from the gold seal?

[waxen fable]

high card pairs and doesn't have to be exclusively on checkered

[flat tiger]

its jsut annoying when you do checkered and end up high card/pair build

[fringe nebula]

why would you dig for gold seal in a deck of 53 cards

[polar abyss]

who needs showman when the game wants to give you free duplicates

[hardy jackal]

I HATE VIOLET VESSEL

[shell dagger]

i mean… you still needed showman for this interaction to occur

[flat tiger]

if you get seal from spectral you choose what to put it on, you only have lucky card that is a good target for gold, you have many targets for red, if you get it from standard pack you dont want either red or gold on a clean card unless its the exact card yo uare doing

[shell dagger]

i would ankh mr bones

[tranquil steppe]

Does anyone else buy and hold planets they don’t want sometimes just to increase the odds of finding the planet you do want?

[shell dagger]

yes

[flat tiger]

I find it ... ineffective to say the least, more things to manage then you dont get the planet you ened anyway

[fringe nebula]

so? due to the lack of econ gold gold stake, trying to make a red seal work in a deck of 52 cards is harder

[fringe nebula]

me

[knotty zodiac]

commonly referred to as "planet blocking" (and tarot blocking)

[hardy jackal]

Does holding planet cards actually change the odds?

[fringe nebula]

yes

[knotty zodiac]

yes

[hardy jackal]

I didn't know that

[shell dagger]

you can’t see duplicates under normal circumstances

so any planets you hold won’t be in the pack

[tranquil steppe]

Good term

[fringe nebula]

huh interesting

i just call it spawnblocking

[hardy jackal]

Damn I was just consuming them for no reason

[knotty zodiac]

if i have a lot of money, i try to fill my consumables with tarots and roll for one or two more tarots before opening arcana packs

[fringe nebula]

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[shell dagger]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[fringe nebula]

bot

[shell dagger]

that’s a new one

[hardy jackal]

he thinks he clever

[fringe nebula]

ceremonial dagger got countered by making the bot respond to the most recent message

😔

[knotty zodiac]

or maybe its just slow?

[gentle basalt]

They cant repeat
You can even block 4 planets (2 in shop, 2 in your consumables) to guarantee your desired planet in the big celestial packs

(Or block 6 with overstock plus)

[shell dagger]

7 with crystal ball

[gentle basalt]

Tarot blocking less useful though

[hardy jackal]

I knew about joker cards not repeating, didn't know it applied to tarot and planet cards too

[fringe nebula]

spectral cards too

[knotty zodiac]

its midgame, you have no blue seals, there is one celestial pack and one arcana pack, are you usually planet blocking or tarot blocking if you have a choice?

[gentle basalt]

Planet blocking without a question

[shell dagger]

no blue seals so im planet blocking i think

[gentle basalt]

Tarot blocking is ineffective because there are too many

[hardy jackal]

I want my flushes and highs

[gentle basalt]

So the effective change in value due to blocking one tarot is not large

[flat tiger]

more times then not I dont get the planet I want anyway even with blocking

[fringe nebula]

worth it nonetheless

[shell dagger]

unless you are talking about only jumbos and you desire multiple planets, that’s statistically unlikely

[hardy jackal]

When is the dating sim update coming to balala

[gentle basalt]

You are lying then

[fringe nebula]

who do you want to date? vagabond?

[knotty zodiac]

with one desired planet, nothing in shop, and 2/2 consumables full, its 3/7 in a reg pack and 5/7 in a jumbo. so you should be landing a (slim) majority of them

[shell dagger]

oh i misread

oopsie

[flat tiger]

thats the thing, even with the effort of having 2 planets, you still only have a slight aventage

[fringe nebula]

astronomer i see

[ebon condor]

can i date mystic summit

[flat tiger]

you like rocks?

[ebon condor]

sure

[fringe nebula]

that's the entire point of balatro

[pallid galleon]

gg this was a shitpost fr

[knotty zodiac]

the effort is usually $6 worth of planets from the rerolling that you were doing anyways

[ebon condor]

i mean if i had to pick 1 joker to spend a day with its either mystic summit or dusk im just sayin

[flat tiger]

yet everyrun you see posted involved blueprint brainstorm or both

[hardy jackal]

Like poking a balloon with a toothpick

[fringe nebula]

when was the last time I post a win with blueprint again? I don't remember

[pallid galleon]

seed if you want perkeo and yorick first shop ante 2

[fringe nebula]

doing many small things that will give you slight advantage

sounds like balatro

[hardy jackal]

Put it on the seed website

[shell dagger]

people are more likely to post the big wins

[tranquil steppe]

The seed chat may want that

[gentle basalt]

4$ of planets for 20% better odds of hitting your desired planet (also you dont have to pay this cost everytime, since you dont always need your consumable slots)
You can decide whether its worth it or not, but its definitely effective

[shell dagger]

but most often it is the accumulation of small advantages that produces wins consistently

[gentle basalt]

It is 53.8% odds with blocking 2 btw

[pallid galleon]

pick up the riffraff bc it gives faceless and mail in rebate

[ebon condor]

this is also why showman is the worst joker in the game

[knotty zodiac]

does anyone really want all my win screens and game over screens? a lot of them are pretty mundane

[pallid galleon]

do you think anyone would specifically want to play it tho

[shell dagger]

ohh yippee another green square run

[tranquil steppe]

Idk but it sounds fun

[knotty zodiac]

"i found rebate, and then had money to buy square and bus, and then at the end i farmed for gold sticker and scored 500k in 3 hands to beat verdant"

[flat tiger]

when you actually get to play flush with checkered, but flush still weak AF

[ebon condor]

buzz lightyear gif

[hardy jackal]

showman never worked for me

[tranquil steppe]

I love flush unsarcastically

[hardy jackal]

I still think 8-ball is the worst joker

[cloud sinew]

not even close

[flat tiger]

i like 5 card hands in general but they are just way harder to play

[cloud sinew]

showman my hatred

[hardy jackal]

There is no situation where you would need 8-ball

Because why would you duplicate 8's

[cloud sinew]

doing nothing is better than what showman does

[knotty zodiac]

situatuon: i want more tarots and have 8s in my deck

[bold gyro]

is dusk good in pair builds?

[cloud sinew]

fibonacci, 8ball

also chad exists to enable it

[gentle basalt]

You dont know ball

[tranquil steppe]

Meh. It’s really fun with flush builds though

[cursive crater]

i hate seance more than showman

[gentle basalt]

How??

You need ancient / bloodstone + dice

[pallid galleon]

nah this run was carried by 8 ball

i will not take the 8 ball slander

[tranquil steppe]

5 retriggers

I like it with ancient

[gentle basalt]

https://youtu.be/JcwMwYOLins?si=ZGlJSNxGTnM0Wlx9

[hardy jackal]

very specific

[gentle basalt]

Yes i get that one specific rare joker in all my runs too

[flat tiger]

i unironically want showman that one time I want a second cavedish/blackboard

[gentle basalt]

Doc has quite a few 8-ball runs
He really likes it (and other tarot generators)

[flat tiger]

in terms of tarot generator, I hate 8 ball the most

[bold gyro]

Which 2 do I take ?

[hardy jackal]

Okay, what about Sèance? Whats your opinion on that card?

[tranquil steppe]

It’s not common but when it happens ancientdusk is very fun

[gentle basalt]

Useless but occasionally takeable (you pick up a suit changer and play a straight)

[cloud sinew]

rebate scary

[cloud sinew]

mid but very rarely actively detrimental, so its better than showman

[tender quarry]

Rebate Vaga angle easily tbh

[hardy jackal]

Is showman that bad? I always see it get glazed

[tender quarry]

Like you can do both

[gentle basalt]

Rebate vagabond if you are experienced enough

[knotty zodiac]

they look like theyre going to die at boss blind

[gentle basalt]

Where??

[bold gyro]

Got the game 3 weeks ago lol

[tender quarry]

Unless it’s wall they’re very safe

[fringe nebula]

showman gets glazed by endl*ss players

[hardy jackal]

endless run vids

[fringe nebula]

well you see

[gentle basalt]

Why are you watching? Thats your first mistake

[fringe nebula]

runs past ante 8 don't exist

[pale trout]

could never be me

[cloud sinew]

it makes consumables so much worse on average. packs are so less likely to have what you need and so are shops

[tender quarry]

Pair about 400, 2 Pair about 800

[cloud sinew]

exactly. endless runs

[hardy jackal]

I like endless runs they look cool

[gentle basalt]

You will also see baron glazed

Dont fall into the trap, its bottom 5 joker

[cloud sinew]

the game is balanced around ante 8 and endless is completely optional apart from 1 unlock

[hardy jackal]

Idk I found Baron to be pretty good

[waxen fable]

endless is important for like 1 achievement

[waxen fable]

not good

[cloud sinew]

within ante 8?

[pale trout]

use death

[hardy jackal]

Ye

[waxen fable]

dont get fooled by the numbers it can reach

[flat tiger]

but you can get 2 black holes in a pack Kappa

[waxen fable]

why

[hardy jackal]

1.5x mult

[waxen fable]

chariot is the same thing

[gentle basalt]

But The pack is choose 1

[flat tiger]

mime is a lot better then baron for ante 8

[hardy jackal]

Well not every run gives you chariot

[waxen fable]

and putting chariot on non face card doesn't get killed by plant

[waxen fable]

not every run gives you baron

[knotty zodiac]

what...?

[gentle basalt]

Yes but chariot does not take up one of your joker slots

[waxen fable]

correct

[knotty zodiac]

i see orders of magnitude more chariots than barons

[hardy jackal]

Sometimes you just gotta take the baron

[waxen fable]

for what reason

take it and die next round

[hardy jackal]

1.5x mult

[waxen fable]

what

[tender quarry]

You use baron sometimes just as you use every joker sometimes

[waxen fable]

i just said chariot is the same thing

[tender quarry]

Except showman

[flat tiger]

baron does next to nothing when you have 4 Kings, Mime start doing work with any in hand cards

[gentle basalt]

The sometimes is pretty low for baron