🕹・game-discussion

[ancient gyro]

my last streak I did on abandoned I got a 15 streak within the first attempt so the sample size is low

[versed sable]

this was a couple antes ago

[south oasis]

hooooly

[versed sable]

took 27 minutes
for just the final hand
(including the gold cards)

[south oasis]

damn

[versed sable]

it's 8;42 per hand for 44 hands a round (on normal blinds)
help

[ancient gyro]

that's why I play once every week now lol

[vocal rose]

ill probably do checkered++ no losses

rather than just regular ++

[lilac comet]

@quiet hawk i lost that run

[quiet hawk]

dang 💔

[vocal rose]

well this is a good start

[cursive lion]

mine or vampire would go great with this

[vocal rose]

indeed

but midas alone is great

[quiet hawk]

is it worth as an eternal rental though

[sacred trench]

Here is my latest win

[ancient gyro]

yes

[knotty zodiac]

yes

[vocal rose]

absolutely

[cursive lion]

well you can argue for the eternal part

[quiet hawk]

wow alright

lots of yeses

[cursive lion]

but i mean its a good econ joker for rental

just focus on getting parieloda or some way to get more face cards

[ancient gyro]

second only to snail mail

not necessary

[woven remnant]

I hate checkered deck

[quiet hawk]

i love checkered deck 🙏

[cursive lion]

i am indifferent to checkered deck

[quaint stag]

new roffle video popped up on my tl and i decided to give it a watch

[ancient gyro]

sounds like absolute boredom

[vocal rose]

it might be

[quaint stag]

i kinda forgot how unneccessarily mean he is to his chat

[quiet hawk]

whats ++?

[vocal rose]

c++

on a specific deck

[cursive lion]

completionist plus plus

[quiet hawk]

bro 😭

[ancient gyro]

abandoned++ will require some guaranteed questionable pickups

[unreal topaz]

if only i could take both :/

[cursive lion]

both are great ooh

hm

[vocal rose]

I like balatro

[cursive lion]

if you think you are right to scale obelisk pick that up

but if you just need chips square

[vocal rose]

I think square is

the safer option

[quaint stag]

ANOTHER PLUS 3 TO RED CARDDDD

[quiet hawk]

how many hours do you have on the game

[vocal rose]

prolly 1k

give or take

[quiet hawk]

dang dang

[woven remnant]

it technically doesnt harm you like nebula or black but I somehow do worse job with it

[unreal topaz]

maybe, but also with faceless and 3 discards i can prob find another source of chips

[cursive lion]

completionist - discover everything
completionist+ - gold stake on all decks
completionist++ gold stake on all jokers

[ancient gyro]

a select amount of jokers are incompatible with that deck

[unreal topaz]

bc flushes are a trap

[vocal rose]

oh yeah I have cert

[woven remnant]

so is abandoned but I did fine with it

[cursive lion]

also if you don't deckfix if you get either boss blind that disabled spades or hearts there goes half of your deck

[quiet hawk]

ive never heard of people doing c++ on certain decks though

thats crazy

[cursive lion]

i mean its possible but just not that fun

[vocal rose]

well

unless you're reliant for your cards

that still does nothing

[ancient gyro]

they're the best decks that have a technical downside

[cursive lion]

probably the closest is either black since it has another joker slot or anayglth since you could maybe get a negative tag

[woven remnant]

I dont even think Im gonna go for c++ after doing c+

[knotty zodiac]

happens all the time here. there were ppl doing ghost++ a few weeks ago, theres a few active in progress black++ and zodiac++ here rn

[pale wolf]

whats your playtime

[quiet hawk]

black++ must be hell 😭

[ancient gyro]

samsung doesn't track that

[quiet hawk]

ghost must be the easiest though, right?

[woven remnant]

c+ makes me feel like I have mastered every deck while c++ gonna feel like a chore and make me use some exploits

[ancient gyro]

it was sort of fun

[pale wolf]

my apps time can backtrack playtime

[ancient gyro]

refer to my tier list earlier

[ancient gyro]

mbn

[quiet hawk]

oh yeah lemme see

why blue first?

[vocal rose]

+1 hand

[quiet hawk]

the extra discard for money i guess?

[quiet hawk]

oh its hand mb

[pale wolf]

blue has the most overall resources throughout a run

[quiet hawk]

interesting

[knotty zodiac]

you can try winstreaks after c+

[ancient gyro]

the title speaks for itself
hands have a multitude of utility

[woven remnant]

maybe

[ancient gyro]

sounds like hell for someone that hasn't done c++ b4

[vocal rose]

eye victim

[knotty zodiac]

well there's not much left besides challenges if they dont like c++

[ancient gyro]

guilty

[pale wolf]

me when jokerless

[foggy pond]

6 hours and finally win in Gold Plasma💪

[woven remnant]

blue and black as examples with spark differences

[pale wolf]

should i attempt jokerless again

it really shouldnt take more than a few

[sullen gust]

would an extra copy of all 6s make lucky cards 1 in 10?

[pale wolf]

The game doesn't simplify the fraction but yea

[knotty zodiac]

been here. do you try to outscale the eye or find some way to up other hands here?

[ancient gyro]

how about painted

[pale wolf]

ive beat painted before

[sullen gust]

oh okay cool thanks!

[ancient gyro]

not recently

[vocal rose]

I just find a different source of x mult or any other way to counter a boss blind non traditionally

a clutch joker like loyalty bones luchador

something

[ancient gyro]

attempt to one shot it

[pale wolf]

painted is probly the hardest deck anyways you have no joker slots basicly

[ancient gyro]

o

[pale wolf]

its jokerless 2.0

ok painted time

[ancient gyro]

:)

[knotty zodiac]

congratz!

[vocal rose]

soooo

I died

[woven remnant]

aight

[vocal rose]

wow

[knotty zodiac]

eye?

[ancient gyro]

😐

[woven remnant]

back to checkered gold ig

[vocal rose]

no card sharp expired

died to fish

[knotty zodiac]

oh. ya sometimes orange is like that

[ancient gyro]

lol

[quiet hawk]

green deck gold stake is killing me 💔

[vocal rose]

I was consistently rolling to $10 and the only other x mult options I found was throwback and madness

[quiet hawk]

probably the hardest gold stake ive tried

[vocal rose]

madness was late too

so ig I had an econ failure

[ancient gyro]

forgot that checkered is sort of immune to fish

[knotty zodiac]

hm should i play checkered or painted

[ancient gyro]

pick your suffering

[heady fable]

Fun baron run on painted deck

[vocal rose]

hmm should I eat some steak or some dogshit

[heady fable]

Dogshit, it grows on you eventually

[knotty zodiac]

"in defense of dogshit [...]"

[ancient gyro]

obesity or malnutrition

[pale wolf]

wait is painted or checkered dogshit

[knotty zodiac]

this is technically first but i rejected bc baron xD

[pale wolf]

I feel like they are opposite of each other both in difficulty and fun

[knotty zodiac]

sry im a hater 💔 you can flame away np

[quaint stag]

oh boy

[ancient gyro]

😐

[vocal rose]

are you KIDDING me

why am I so ass

balatro not today

[ancient gyro]

what a great start

[knotty zodiac]

8 chips hurts

[pale wolf]

🦓 dont make me do this please

[ancient gyro]

this is not what I asked for

[pale wolf]

This is the painted gameplay you asked for

I have a blue seal jack

🦓 🦓 🦓

[ancient gyro]

😐

[unreal topaz]

i didnt need the safety, i had 3 levels in pair to build potential in the obelisk safely

now im fully chilling

[ancient gyro]

is this cinema

it must be

[unreal topaz]

mail in replaces ttm bc 8 ball is starting to build momentum

[pale wolf]

All my lucky cards keep hitting money

[ancient gyro]

u need to do a second run after this

[pale wolf]

how many times can i streak photochad on painted

pb 10streak incoming

[sullen gust]

first time getting this kinda build ^^

[ancient gyro]

2

[pale wolf]

what the fuck

i misclicked play hand and lost on flint

uninstalling

[cosmic sun]

died to flint lockwood

[ancient gyro]

0

died to a dead cells weapon

[knotty zodiac]

this is what i get for making fun of baron

[tranquil steppe]

Now you’re getting thrown in the dungee

[heady zenith]

Should I get chariot

Also does baron work with paredolia

[ancient gyro]

read both of the jokers descriptions for clarity

[heady zenith]

Well paredolia says face cards so it mean all right

8t doesn't clarify which

So it could be all

[ancient gyro]

both

[tepid verge]

Yall what's a joker you guys think would be awesome im lwk bored rn and I want some ideas

[fringe nebula]

baron works for kings

and only kings

is that even a question

[tepid verge]

No srry its a specific rank

Paredolia is only counting as a rank group, not as a random specific rank

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[serene forge]

kings are face cards but not every face card is a king

[tepid verge]

Evil very gay lesbian hornet:
I love bloodstone

[fringe nebula]

holo splash maybe

no, not maybe

holo splash it is

[tranquil steppe]

Bloodstone forgives your sins

[heady zenith]

This will be balatro 1.2 localthunk told me

[woven remnant]

just lost ante 8 gold stake with 45 lvl flush via burnt joker by a landslide

[winged plinth]

can console jokerless use the same strategy as the pc/mobile version? like stick to straights and buff cards as a general rule is what I mean

[unreal topaz]

turns out obelisk is a good joker

tarot merchant with an early faceless got my score a bit silly at the end

[young moat]

genuinely how do u deckfix for obelisk

[solemn flume]

The hell is a chalupa pack 😭

[ancient gyro]

obbylicks doesn't really require deck fixing

[unreal topaz]

it doesnt need deckfixing really, but commit to one random suit and one random rank

makes it easier

there i had 8 ball for a bit so i did 8s

[ancient gyro]

but if you have the option, just pick whatever higher poker hand u want that isn't your most played and soft fix for that

[unreal topaz]

and spades bc i saw world cards

flushes or 2 pair are good secondary hands bc they're very easy to fix for

but like if you fix for 2 pair sometimes you play 4oak by the end

sometimes if you fix for flushes you play a flush house in the end

[compact gazelle]

obelisk deck fixing is another term for taking whatever looks good from standard packs and letting certificate have its own way

[ancient gyro]

generally oak hands have more accessibility from available tools. straights could have a harder time to setup for requiring specific rank distribution and less available stepping stone poker hands

[unreal topaz]

yeah

[compact gazelle]

70 card deck with a stone card of every seal goes hard

[solemn flume]

Shoutout certificate for never giving me a god damn blue seal I swear to god

[compact gazelle]

shoutout certificate for not giving me red seals

[solemn flume]

I swear it just loves giving gold and purple seals for no good reason

[compact gazelle]

red seals would be good if i could put them on blue seals
or if i played endless but endless is not real

[solemn flume]

Endless doesn't exist, it can't hurt you
Ante 13 Needle:

[fiery nymph]

now thats awesome

[ancient gyro]

or if i ran into some few niche cases on plasma

[compact gazelle]

someone should write a paragraph in the style of white staker crashouts about game design
and it’s about how seance is better than purple seals because seance has a greater chance to self enable on trigger than purple seals do

[unreal topaz]

red gold cards are cool

red seals themselves are ehh

[compact gazelle]

red gold cards are indeed cool
but I have this neat tech called “2 gold cards”

[solemn flume]

Red steel cards make me go cuckoo

[silk python]

To the people who have ALOT of hours in this game. Have you ever seen baronmime same shop no rerolls beside each other off rip?

[ancient gyro]

red stone is sort of cool

[compact gazelle]

red foil stone is funny as hell

[ancient gyro]

unlike another red stone ik

[unreal topaz]

i had a red holographic stone in the run i just had, then i flipped it later and it was an 8 lol

[civic dock]

yo random question, why does it say naneinf for some people but i scored -nan

[unreal topaz]

that was a cool moment

[civic dock]

when i got enough for naneinf

[compact gazelle]

overflow or something idk

[solemn flume]

Ok what's with folks hating Bloodstone 😭 is there something I'm missing

[civic dock]

okay lol

[compact gazelle]

bloodstone bad pretty much

[ancient gyro]

ppl like to shit on shit in certain communities

[compact gazelle]

so hating bloodstone has become a ritual of sorts

[ancient gyro]

morning prayers

[unreal topaz]

it's unreliable, and the expected value isn't even that great unless you get a lot of other pieces

[waxen quartz]

losing b/c your bloodstone fell asleep is always fun...

[compact gazelle]

there are worse jokers but bloodstone gets to be the target because of how many people overrate it

[solemn flume]

Okay that makes sense to me

[compact gazelle]

you don’t see people going “omg idol is my favorite joker in the game it’s so good” that much

[unreal topaz]

same way obelisk gets underrated so it gets the opposite effect

[compact gazelle]

so even though idol is generally less good than bloodstone it gets less of the mockery

[ancient gyro]

then you have parei that gets dunked on from both sides of the spectrum

[compact gazelle]

red card has a bit of that I’d say

[solemn flume]

Obelisk is probably very strong but consec hands always spook me

[unreal topaz]

yeah, fair

[solemn flume]

Red card is solid when your luck hits the fan

[shell dagger]

Do you have mods

[ancient gyro]

luck?

[civic dock]

yeah but all disabled

[unreal topaz]

so it's just solid for high winrate

[compact gazelle]

red card exists as the backup option for pack value

[shell dagger]

steammodded is known to mess stuff up even when it shouldn’t

[unreal topaz]

oh thats what they meant, i thought they meant it was reliable

[ancient gyro]

red card practically removes necessity for pack luck with guaranteed value per pack

[civic dock]

ah okok thanks

[compact gazelle]

if nothing the pack offers is more valuable than +3 you take the scaling

[foggy sun]

Credit card hard carried lowkey (came in at a time where I was barely scoring enough, then vagabond came next shop and then I was able to sneak a win)

this is why we do not diss the card

[solemn flume]

Red card is just a solid card

[unreal topaz]

point proven

kinda

[ancient gyro]

vaga has better synergies than plastic card

so much better

[unreal topaz]

all the decent players scrambling to explain why red card is good

at the slightest mild almost slander

[compact gazelle]

i was just agreeing
my red card usage rates are criminally low idk why

[ancient gyro]

shame on you

[foggy sun]

Yeah, but it's just what was provided. and let me be greedy to find everything I needed to clutch

[waxen quartz]

it's more when is red card useful. like green/bus/etc...after ante 3, is that enough time to scale them enough?

[unreal topaz]

it's below bus for me, its in 4th while bus is in 2nd, which makes a lot of sense

[compact gazelle]

indeed 😔
too many off meta builds idk

[unreal topaz]

bc imo bus is stronger

[ancient gyro]

can't be me

[solemn flume]

Bus is spooky

[compact gazelle]

red card doesn’t even break my top 10

[unreal topaz]

shocking

[compact gazelle]

it’s comical how little i use it

[unreal topaz]

where are the other scalers?

[waxen quartz]

sold them for econ/xmult 🙂

[unreal topaz]

square is off of my top 10 bc blue seals are too common

sad

[compact gazelle]

up there somewhere across the profiles
I don’t think nova and green are quite there but bus is comfortably top 10 combined

[ancient gyro]

i think bus is stronger but red is more unconditional provided you're given the choices that isn't very early game as there isn't a basic restriction attached to the joker

[unreal topaz]

juggler is in my top 10 bc blue seals are too common

[ancient gyro]

chips are off the top 10 for how planets function

[ancient gyro]

o

[waxen quartz]

I don't like early redcard. you're not in a place to open packs, and seeing something good means you can't skip

[compact gazelle]

shortcut just replaces scaling mult and chips for me

[unreal topaz]

i mean, do you blame me?

it's so much value

just having extra hand size

[ancient gyro]

idk I haven't seen you lately

[compact gazelle]

hand size my beloved

[weary idol]

I died

[cosmic sun]

Early on, Red Card is not always your sole score, and if it is then delaying interest cap for one pack's worth of mult is better than dying.

[unreal topaz]

well you just save money, if it only starts actually building mult up after like 4 shops it's completely fine

[ancient gyro]

funny to think that drunkard and juggler are better than their uncommon variants on average

[compact gazelle]

their uncommon variants don’t make enough appearances to be consistently relied on when they would prove useful

[cosmic sun]

Going into Round 4 trying to score with nothing is certainly a choice of all time

[ancient gyro]

red card is also compatible with some face card econ which rtb can't say for all

[solemn flume]

Idk why I'm a big Merry Andy fan

[unreal topaz]

yeah

[ancient gyro]

both coming with questionable downsides at that

[unreal topaz]

yeah, so they're close

[solemn flume]

Prob something about how the lack of drawback makes them more consistent

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[unreal topaz]

red card can be picked up later than bus

[ancient gyro]

hands and hand size 🥀

[solemn flume]

What, you're telling me you don't want double Stuntman?

[compact gazelle]

my scaler use is overall lower than it probably ought to be because of how much i love saturn and also setting up stupid builds

[unreal topaz]

i do get wayy more use out of andrew than troubador

usually

[ancient gyro]

i still put it in the bottom half

[unreal topaz]

yeah

andrew is too niche

[ancient gyro]

it has to be joker specific

[unreal topaz]

fair

[hardy fable]

does anyone know what ccitbp is

[ancient gyro]

shop 1 bp

/scribbly

[shell dagger]

I don’t

Is it one of these new acronyms that the kids these days use like LMFAO

Or TTTS

[ancient gyro]

credit card in the buffoon pack

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[zinc sigil]

Its just cooked no

What do I do

[south path]

probably watch rascal does not dream of bunny girl senpai

[zinc sigil]

Alr done buddy

[south path]

whgat about the 3 movies and the other season

[zinc sigil]

I can not sadly.

[south path]

havent watched any of them either

[zinc sigil]

Im scared its gonna break my heart

[south path]

im go nna watch the movies in school

[zinc sigil]

Anywho can we see how I can save this run

😭

[south path]

luchador

or chicot

just hope

[zinc sigil]

Just win good advice

[keen lodge]

should I get brainstorm (note: I can’t get rid of matador cuz I’m trying to get a gold sticker on it)

[south path]

dont u feel liek the ending of bgs was kind of unclimactic

nothing really happens to kaede except memory loss

[zinc sigil]

You can dm me about it if u wan

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Do I keep rolling

I just lose no

I could sell stm and get odd todd

But then Im stuck with it

Or gamble one roll

What do I do

@knotty zodiac u there?

[keen lodge]

can I get some help here too while y’all are at it

[keen lodge]

what’s your current most played hand

[zinc sigil]

High card

Its so fucking lost bro

Everything was setup for shoot the moon

[keen lodge]

well I doubt odd todd adding 31 would do much

reroll

[zinc sigil]

Go for straight flushes?

[keen lodge]

I guess

[eternal minnow]

NATURAL NEGATIVE PERKEO IN ANTE 7

[keen lodge]

crazy joker gotta do something

[knotty zodiac]

youre playing straights while holding queens and facing the plant?

[zinc sigil]

Can you get it from the shop?

[zinc sigil]

This was me 2 blinds before

[eternal minnow]

It was in an arcana pack

[zinc sigil]

I had to pivot from stm

[keen lodge]

btw what do I do here

[calm charm]

found the shop line-up of all time

[knotty zodiac]

you still thinking or did you move on alr?

i think w straights low level planet, todd is takable

[zinc sigil]

Lost sadly

[tranquil steppe]

Space benis

[zinc sigil]

Ah man it was such a good stm run

[knotty zodiac]

i think i would have looked for two flat mults

[zinc sigil]

You want the seed and try?

Nvm I skipped alr

LMAO

[knotty zodiac]

lol enjoy

[keen lodge]

🫩

[zinc sigil]

LOL

I just got this out of judgement

[versed sable]

shiny

[ancient gyro]

long time no see thousandth

where sk vid

[ancient gyro]

depends on current boss blind and planet levels

[keen lodge]

doesn’t matter I won

[ancient gyro]

o

[tranquil steppe]

But why

[ancient gyro]

cause sk is slop

[eternal minnow]

5TY7416B

There was a second soul card with yorick

It got sold for a brainstorm tho

Hand i died on

[vocal rose]

checkered deck

[zinc sigil]

How do I score more points

I score 25k at most

With a pair

But a8 boss blind is like 400-800k atleast no

[eternal minnow]

Is ghost deck the best deck?

[ancient gyro]

no

[solemn flume]

Wait what's the issue w/plasma

[zinc sigil]

What do I do

I got obelisk for free

I dont rmr how

But I did

Oh judgement

Do I keep it sell it

[eternal minnow]

Whats your runs

[zinc sigil]

Lowk cant no

[eternal minnow]

Ehhh

[willow frost]

its hard on gold stake

[eternal minnow]

Are you building towards anything specific? @zinc sigil

[zinc sigil]

I wanted to try stm

[eternal minnow]

Hands seem all over the place

[zinc sigil]

Cause I got it non eternal

[eternal minnow]

Also its already ante 4

[zinc sigil]

Also I have this poly 10 idk like to copy

[eternal minnow]

And no solid hand count

[zinc sigil]

So yea idk what to do

[eternal minnow]

I dont think youll be able to make good use of obelisk

[solemn flume]

I see. Must've severely lucked out or something on my end then since it took me like 2 attempts
But I can see it going terrible if you don't get the right spikes early

[zinc sigil]

What would u do

In my spot

[willow frost]

yeah it took me a while lol

third one after red and blue

[zinc sigil]

Do I sell obelisk swashbucker

Go for another riff raff

[eternal minnow]

Pop arcana first

[zinc sigil]

Death

[eternal minnow]

See if theres any deck fixing

[zinc sigil]

I got another queen

[eternal minnow]

Ooh

[willow frost]

sure he will

[eternal minnow]

Im just coming off of an unseeded ante 14 natural negative perkeo run

Made it to ante 14 not got perkeo ante 14

@zinc sigil yeah id personally sell obelisk cause i dont see it having super good value unless you need the occasional 1.25x

See if riff raff can spit out something good

[slow iris]

you don't have to play into obelisk immediately after getting it

it's ante 4 there's still time to scale the most played hand and then obelisk

[placid haven]

I finally obtained a golf stake vampire build!

[rotund cloud]

⛳

Nice You win

[jovial mica]

no words

i got soul twice 😭

though it means I'm running king pairslop

[fast robin]

just get into deckfixing and then four of an kind and then flush five

[fast robin]

nah but your lucky asf

damn

[proud island]

i guess bro (naturally negative, first blueprint on this profile too btw 😭)

[jovial mica]

i started deckfixing too late

but that was my best run yet

i actually beat ante 11 :D

died on ante 12 small blind though LMAO

[versed sable]

happens

[fast robin]

deckfixing late plus bad luck is pretty bad

[jovial mica]

it was yellow on red so by no means a hard run

like
compared to black on gold 😭

but trib and perkeo deffo carried

[fast robin]

gold is easy you just have too get pretty lucky

plus be patience

[jovial mica]

PLUS

i had a voucher that uhh
what was it

1.5x mult for every planet card in the consumable slot for the hand type played

[fast robin]

perkeo ahh

[jovial mica]

so that was stacking way too easily

[fast robin]

the only good thing about that voucher is perkeo

after that

meh

[jovial mica]

i picked it up off a whim after i had a mercury in shop

[versed sable]

-# observatory

[jovial mica]

and THEN i got soul
and perkeo

[jovial mica]

yeah that's the one

[versed sable]

observatory or the last round or two

[jovial mica]

so it's insane scaling

until post ante 11

i also had directors cut so i had verdant leaf and rerolled into amber acorn
this was pre-perk tho
i already had trib

the funny thing about this is it was supposed to be a casual run!

[fringe nebula]

eternals

😭

[jovial mica]

what's seeing double again

[jovial mica]

I don't think I've unlocked that one 🤔

[fringe nebula]

had to skip for loyalty card

[jovial mica]

ante 8 skip is insane lmao

[jovial mica]

ahhhh

[dire sage]

such an amazing seed, i wonder what it's called

[wintry ice]

if your hand has a club and a non-club, multiply mult by 2

[lime remnant]

i...guess?

free 10 doller

[fringe nebula]

keep

trib on plasma is good

[waxen quartz]

just a chad is close to beating vv on gold

[peak crest]

hell yeah

[ancient gyro]

x2 blind requirements
mult is half as effective on this deck
xmult pivot is far less likely to occur consistently in practice
chip jokers are the most scarce of the three scoring sources
specific bosses are more threatening on plasma (flint, arm, wall, vv, needle)
learning curve in plasma is very steep in how you play and search (chips, retriggers, planets, money, 2 pair)

[wintry ice]

keep in mind that those are already the harder bosses for the normal decks

[dire sage]

just go chicot lol

[knotty zodiac]

tfw you calculate for minutes and save the luchador

and then the next shop has xmult

[cursive panther]

Who is better?

[waxen quartz]

other decks, could argue. plasma...probably constellation if you switch to mult

[cursive panther]

Ok

[dire sage]

lustful

cuz ur in ante 2 and u have no other joker

and you probably have no used planet cards

[cursive panther]

Only one jupiter

[dire sage]

does it count it?

[cursive panther]

No

[waxen quartz]

plasma, the mult isn't a huge help

[dire sage]

then go lustful

[cursive panther]

Well i will go with constelation

[molten thicket]

const

lustful does nothing

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[timid summit]

Hi

i need help

I need the brainstorming NPC in the best possible quality; it's for printing and is a birthday present for a friend.

PNG***

[soft forge]

resuming my trecharous journey thru green deck

may or may not give updates

[pale wolf]

synergy

[hazy hound]

Any of yall know what happens when you pick up an idol if your deck is only stone cards

[pale wolf]

ace of spades

[soft forge]

AHAHAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA

TRIB!!!!!!!!

you can guess what my first ever legendary was

(it's chicot)

[pallid galleon]

you know whats crazy

ive been getting a lot of souls and the last 4 were all trib

[cold flax]

Yo crazy seed: HPJVW7LP
I go a soul perkeo hmm invis joker and a ton of anks— ghost deck

[pallid galleon]

i even had a run where i got 2 tribs in the same seed

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 3

[noble mango]

Why are you the mushroom lady now

[pallid galleon]

thoughts on bloodstone

[hybrid tendon]

huh ?

[hybrid tendon]

bad

Y'all are confusing me with my girlfriend I think

[noble mango]

Lace got a mushroom head

Oh wait nvm

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 3

[noble mango]

There's 2 of you?!?!

Holy moly silksong ship

[serene forge]

dagger

[hybrid tendon]

lmaooo

[serene forge]

not sure where you've been

we've been rocking this for like 6 months at this point

[soft forge]

never

i hate dagger irrationally

[serene forge]

20 mult :3

[noble mango]

I see

I never realized

[soft forge]

i am NOT sacrificing mr trib

[serene forge]

you hate dagger irrationally because no rational person hates dagger

[soft forge]

False...

[noble mango]

Mmmm daggy stabby stab

Wait nvm trib activated before the jokers do

Yeah no dagger shenanigans this run

[serene forge]

thats why you stab trib

[soft forge]

fuck's sake

the fuck do i DO here 🥀

[hybrid tendon]

die

[serene forge]

i told you you were supposed to stab trib

smh my head

[feral arrow]

There nothing you can do

[soft forge]

i'm such a Fool i copied a soul

goddAMNIT

it's so balatrover 💔

[noble mango]

Why
What the
What is dicr doing there

[serene forge]

what is scholar doing there

what is walkie talkie doing thetere

[soft forge]

oops all 🅱️oops always gest the job done

apparently

idk why i got it

[noble mango]

If bro got trib you should just forcus on faces of kings and women

[hybrid tendon]

girlie just picked up things

[soft forge]

i can't DISCARD so i'm kinda FUCKED

[serene forge]

i focus on the faces of women

(my gf)

[soft forge]

same...

[hybrid tendon]

real af

[serene forge]

[soft forge]

i love women

[hybrid tendon]

hell yeahh !

[noble mango]

You should strength your jacks NOW

[hybrid tendon]

estrogen gif

[soft forge]

i love it when i can transition in autistic poker but not irl

[serene forge]

i wan estrogen

[soft forge]

saem

[soft forge]

yes i did just call balatro "autistic poker"

[hybrid tendon]

it is

it's all good

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[pallid galleon]

guys whats your favorite bug

[knotty zodiac]

caterpie

[hybrid tendon]

that's a pokemon

[pallid galleon]

mines is bunger from bugsnax

bunger bunger bunger bunger bunger

[hybrid tendon]

mine's the bee

[knotty zodiac]

a bug pokemon

[hybrid tendon]

it be buggy

[digital bone]

I'm gonna try a challenge where I win a gold stake run with every legendary which one should I start with first?

[hybrid tendon]

black deck

[azure mesa]

do u guys wanna see some unhinged graphs ive been using for bean bug runs

[ancient gyro]

black

[hybrid tendon]

ye

[ancient gyro]

fern practically showed us everything

[ancient gyro]

k nvm that's not what I expected

[azure mesa]

ive more or less tried to work out how to build a perfect bean bug run assuming you're not using stupid seeds like negative blueprints in ante 1 or whatever

[digital bone]

from my perspective it should start out with a good scoring and get grabber and nacho tag if possible (optional) at least 1-2 copy jokers (better if neg) a burgler retcon if the ante 8 nat blind isn't crimson and most likely I'd say on a good deck for econ

bare minimum blue print brainstorm bean burgler retcon

optimal 2 blueprints brainstorm burgler bean retcon

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[azure mesa]

I think I've worked out that on a perfect seed, across all antes, ~30 ectos is the limit

so the real problem is then how do you stretch that out even more

like, at a certain point, the only thing you're looking for in a seed is a negative tag at ante 38 and nothing else lmao

[digital bone]

absolute madness ghost deck Chicot ante 2-3 copy until you have 3-4 get retcon ASAP manacle from 4-7 while making econ have at least 30 hand size to be comfortable on the ante 8 have showman and over $50000 reroll into 5 copies and get burgler then get bean on the shop before crimson sell jokers until you have 2 x+bean then cycle with all your hands and on the last one have a huge hand to drop on the boss then you can get upwards of 50 hand size after that

I'm not entirely sure this is possible without savescumming

but it could be if you have incredible econ

[digital bone]

Chicot manacle

[azure mesa]

taht only adds like 30 extra hand size across a full run

or i guess ~60 with 3 chicots

[bronze leaf]

Chat I'm cooked

[azure mesa]

that Tribe is hilarious my guy

ggs

[digital bone]

chip jokers suck in plasma after ante 3-4

[azure mesa]

WAIT

[digital bone]

it's better to go for mult bc there's no xchips unmodded

[bronze leaf]

Such is life 😞

[azure mesa]

Would chicot manacle save you if you ecto past the [point where it kills you?

[digital bone]

common misconception tbh

[digital bone]

yes

[azure mesa]

HOLY

[digital bone]

I think

I have tested

I'mma go test it hol up

I do have a tad bit of mods thi

js vinilla+ tho

shouldnt change anything

[woven spire]

just like it was an everyday thing

[digital bone]

immolate

[azure mesa]

Boutta rewrite brainstorm to gimme a chicot

[digital bone]

time to spend 30 minutes with a bricked pc bc I have 4 cores🫩

[woven spire]

lol

[digital bone]

actually I'mma try using zokers menu to see if it works cs immolate js died on me

gga it has no spectral cards in the menu

[peak crest]

flushes are the biggest trap this game has ever seen

i’ve been wondering why i can gold stake red deck and ghost deck but i can’t beat orange stake checkered deck

i decided to try a straight run

[azure mesa]

honestly if i didnt interact with the community i prob wouldnta realized how goated pairs are

[peak crest]

i would’ve won if i didn’t get bad ante 8 boss rng

[peak crest]

dude i used to think green joker was genuinely useless

this server and roffle made me realize it’s actually really strong

[azure mesa]

theres a lotta those

all the common scalers

[ancient gyro]

so ive heard

[digital bone]

ok lemme correct myself NON-scaling chip jokers suck

nonscaling flat chips such for plasma because it's stuck on a low amount

[azure mesa]

flat mult jokers aint no daisy neither

[ancient gyro]

scary was around for 6 antes

[azure mesa]

scary is a fake nonscaler

[digital bone]

I was abt to say tht

[azure mesa]

if u scale with triggers, can we call u a non-sclaer?

[digital bone]

right??

[copper iron]

I did actually win on (I think) orange stake with nothing but chip jokers because I got wee joker + blueprint + I think bull

[ancient gyro]

chip builds are the more consistent method of clearing plasma gs anyways

[copper iron]

And by the end wee was giving like 500 and I had $120, so I was getting like 600 x 600 per hand

[azure mesa]

plasma and green decks are so weird

[digital bone]

IN MY MOMENT OF TRYING TO TEST OUT MY THEORY OF CHICOT SAVING NEGATIVE HAND SIZE I FOUND A GOD SEED

what the hell man

[azure mesa]

i feel like i play similarly in all decks except those two

[glad aspen]

Magic deck #goldstaked

[digital bone]

eternal baron eternal mime and brainstorm in the same ante

[ancient gyro]

green deck is just expensive by default while plasma warps entire scoring priorities

[glad aspen]

Omg i didnt take a ss

[digital bone]

good luck w black deck

took me 50 hrs

[azure mesa]

i feel into the trap where my first deck i tried to gold stake was black deck 😭

[ancient gyro]

huh

[azure mesa]

more jokers equals more better, right guys?????

[glad aspen]

Me too i wanted to get it out of the way but that lack of discards man, i switched decks pretty quick

[ancient gyro]

i fell into the trap expecting black++ to be unfun

guess i was wrong

[azure mesa]

black++?

like, using it to get completionist++?

[ancient gyro]

c++ only on black deck

yeah

[azure mesa]

i didn't know balatro university had a japanese discord name

[ancient gyro]

it slowly turned into a streak profile because there wasn't really a true incentive of trying it out other than learning better decision making micros and such

which I plan to revisit

[azure mesa]

once i got completionist++, i just started turning this game into the same thing i do with every other game

[digital bone]

@azure mesa

[azure mesa]

i opened up excel and tried to optimize

[digital bone]

i used 10 ectos btw

[azure mesa]

so it does save you

[ancient gyro]

that takes too much time, i play without the necessity for outside guidance

[digital bone]

im 90% sure tht ur handsize cant be negative

so it js stays at 0

maybe in cryptid it wouldnt

but in modded ur not gonna be goingthrought the troublke for tht

[azure mesa]

so a maximum blueprint run wouldn't be a perkeo run, but a chicot one, huh

[digital bone]

yep

[azure mesa]

though i guess if ur fine dying next round it'd still be perkeo

[digital bone]

i saw someone naneinf w js invis

[glad aspen]

So what if you reduce your handsize to zero in shop then purchase or copy a handsize joker?

Im sure the negative value is stored somewhere

[digital bone]

lemme try tht'

[azure mesa]

if that saves you I'd shit my pants

[ancient gyro]

cert saves you from dying immediately upon entering w/ 0 hs

[azure mesa]

wait

but you couldn't discard

so if you do a naneinf pareidolia photochad run

you could use infinite ectos with no downsides?!?!?

[glad aspen]

The idea is that youre already at 0 so any handsize joker is just a flat + to your hand size

99% it doesnt work like that though

[keen night]

Photochad and a nat negative planet joker

[digital bone]

strunt man might work too

buy then sell

imma test both

i found a bean

[azure mesa]

polychrome looks so good it makes the other editions look worse

[digital bone]

nvm handsize CAN be negative

[digital bone]

yes that is 12 negative jimbos

[glad aspen]

😭😭😭😭

[azure mesa]

no, good, that makes perfect sense

[glad aspen]

Maybe it has something to do with how the values are stored out of round

[digital bone]

guys do NOT use the dangerous speeds on handy and nopeus

[azure mesa]

oh yeah

[digital bone]

im opening an arcana pack while i can select a blind

[azure mesa]

handy speed increases break stuff

[ancient gyro]

what i said was a lie btw i was just referencing a specific modded bug

[azure mesa]

his animation cancels are fine, but the speed increases are no bueno

[glad aspen]

Wait how many jugglers can you ecto without dying

[ancient gyro]

4

[azure mesa]

any juggler ecto is a bad idea

[digital bone]

ok so at a certain point

ecto out scales all handsize manipulation

so perkalator is the best choice

[azure mesa]

ecto total hand size loss is just the Nth triangle number

[digital bone]

UNLESS

WAIT

wait nvm

legendaries cant be eternal in vanilla

[azure mesa]

the graphs i put up there

were meant to show how hand size gain levels off

[digital bone]

BUT

invis exists

[spring kelp]

photophotophotochad 🫰

[humble gulch]

Surely there's a Yorick here

[azure mesa]

the evil plant is in ante 7

[digital bone]

showman + reroll spam +chicot invis

[digital bone]

the evil pillar in ante 7

[spring kelp]

ye bro 😭

[digital bone]

@azure mesa i have a question about brainstorm

[spring kelp]

hope not

[azure mesa]

shoot

[ancient gyro]

the moon

[digital bone]

its w the custom filters

can i dm u abt it

[azure mesa]

is it abouit the immolate.dll?

[digital bone]

yea

[azure mesa]

okay

https://github.com/ABGamma/Brainstorm-Rerolled/tree/main/Immolate

this mf got u covered

[digital bone]

the amount of text is scaring me

[azure mesa]

well it's a repository lmao

i do think its weird that the current branch of brainstorm has nothing to do with the release

like, they're completely different things

[steep pivot]

I wanna get seltzer for the retrigger is happy face worth getting rid of?

[digital bone]

the terminal is closing immediately

what should i do\

[azure mesa]

i dmed u

[humble gulch]

Fucking yes

[steady hollow]

guys what are the best decks?

[ebon condor]

here win

[ebon condor]

blue & yellow for a8, plasma for high scores

[glad aspen]

Balatrodle in 4

[echo sphinx]

holy shit

this game is so easy

castle

[glad aspen]

Infinite money glitch

[gaunt burrow]

55$🤑

[serene forge]

I hate BLoodstone

[bleak hemlock]

peak

[glad aspen]

That gold sticker isnt gonna earn itself

Guys should a i do a gimmick deck or base deck next?

Ive done red deck and magic deck

[bleak hemlock]

yellow

[glad aspen]

I was just thinking that

[bleak hemlock]

one of the most enjoyable at gold stake

[glad aspen]

After yellow ill do a gimmick deck

[humble gulch]

Egg sticker

[glad aspen]

Checkered probably

[light brook]

did yalls game update/get a patch

[glad aspen]

1.1 is real

[light brook]

because at least 3 people today have said sum about a new patch that’s like a kilobyte like crazy small

so either 3 people are lying or something’s happening that i haven’t been informed on yet

[slow iris]

nop

[echo sphinx]

checkered is lowkey easy to gold stake

or rather easier than like 75% of decks

[steady hollow]

what does the boss mean?

[echo sphinx]

the boss selects one card at random

[bleak hemlock]

one card is always selected

[echo sphinx]

you cant unselect it

(fuckn reaadddd)

you should be fine honest

[bleak hemlock]

its rarely that bad of a boss

[steady hollow]

yeah i understand that but does the card randomize each round or is it gonna be the same?

[echo sphinx]

randomize

i mean

u have to play it or discard it

[steady hollow]

ok ty

[echo sphinx]

hence the gimmick

guys do i play this hand or farm straights

[pale wolf]

All you got to do is check steam version

[light brook]

i don’t got steam

or at least don’t have balatro on steam

[bleak hemlock]

4oak

imo

money 🤑

[echo sphinx]

hell ye

monis

[vale shale]

Alright alright. 1 take gold stake run any deck. What deck we thinking bout.

[light brook]

black

[steady hollow]

yeah it was very easy

[echo sphinx]

painted

[vale shale]

Hard

[bleak hemlock]

Black and Hard?

[vale shale]

Let see if I'm gonna be ok with black

[steady hollow]

skiped the big and small blind and just won in 23 hands

[echo sphinx]

oh my god i have four fingers

WHAT

ok yeah here win lmao

[steady hollow]

does anyone know how to get the joker for win a run in 12 or fewer rounds?

[echo sphinx]

honest to god im not so sure

i got the unlockable in black deck but that run was crazy honestly

[pallid galleon]

i think you gotta win a run in 12 or fewer rounds

[turbid nova]

Find throwback

That’s how I did it

[steady hollow]

thanks for the advice

[echo sphinx]

generally if you see an early throwback with an okay setup, greed for it

other than that, a good roll plasma can also win

[pallid galleon]

ok but in seriousness look out for decent skip tags

[steady hollow]

bold of you to asume i know what trowback is

[turbid nova]

Which joker was that

Merry andy?

[echo sphinx]

yp

[echo sphinx]

you literally had it

[steady hollow]

ohhhh

the x multi for skips

[turbid nova]

Yep

[echo sphinx]

not even close

[echo sphinx]

yep

that thing is like at least 4x when going for a merry andy unlock

other than that just the generally ok xmult jokers could also work

[steady hollow]

i will try to find it with the yellow deck rn

[echo sphinx]

black deck unlock in question

[steady hollow]

also what does winning a run with yellow give?

[echo sphinx]

forgor

[vague flint]

isn't it ghost?

[turbid nova]

Blackboard 💙 🖤

[echo sphinx]

yellow is probably the easiest deck to beat the game with

[turbid nova]

So goated

[slate rampart]

nother day in the office

[echo sphinx]

ikr

[turbid nova]

That or blue

[echo sphinx]

5 xmult jokers mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[echo sphinx]

pairslop deck ew

(agree)

[vague flint]

the income is even better than the extra hand imo
just lets you snowball faster

[steady hollow]

blue isnt that good

[gaunt burrow]

love how i cant see any chips or +mult joker

[vague flint]

black deck is the best deck right guys ✌️

[turbid nova]

Hot take green deck is really fun

[echo sphinx]

blue reduces the required scoring per hand
is also +$1 from the extra hand
+1 hand works with pretty much every joker that scales, and all of them are good

[rough moth]

having the best run I've had in awhile, got a perko and a nat negative blueprint

insane

[echo sphinx]

what the fuck

[rustic haven]

i love bloodstone

[steady hollow]

yeah but if you get to the last boss and are on 1 hand left i think you dident have a very good run

[echo sphinx]

this situation happens more often than not even when the run is good

[rough moth]

and just found another blueprint wtf

[turbid nova]

Showman actually being useful wtf

[echo sphinx]

violet vessel and crimson heart are two such bosses

[echo sphinx]

me when i have a thousand dollars and in ante 16

showman is good in endless

MMMMMMM

I COULD JUST PLAY STRAIGHTS ALL DAY

[turbid nova]

Baseball is gone then right

[echo sphinx]

yep

oh i oneshot blind

buttery lobster but i want CHIPSSS

[glad aspen]

Off to a slop start

[echo sphinx]

holy fuck

absurd run

[gaunt burrow]

wonder if erratic deck has any tip for gold stake

[glad aspen]

I got to ante 10, rounded out with like 400k a hand

[vague flint]

reset for 52 kings into baron on shop 1

[turbid nova]

I thought it’d never see someone with bootstraps as their only scoring joker

[glad aspen]

The power of ante 2 burnt invis

All flat mult baby

Ante 10 though i did pick up seeing double

Other than that it was ante 9 all natty

[pallid galleon]

ok just did the take all skip tags challenge out of curiosity and won on my first try

[glad aspen]

Beautiful

[steady hollow]

guys can the ice cream go in the negatives?

[pallid galleon]

no but lowk should

[vale shale]

Automotivo.

[slow iris]

wrong

[slow iris]

wrong

[rustic haven]

blue gives you extra scoring and money how is that not good?

i want 5 hands base all the time

[granite yew]

I'm new to balatro

So idk how to play really

Any tips?

[oblique matrix]

Green goblin mask

[pallid galleon]

you get interest for every 5 dollars you have saved at the end of a round

you can get up to 5 dollars of interest this way by having 25$ or more at the end of a round

so keep that in mind

[rustic haven]

every god damn run i swear

baron mime loves me

and i love it

[gaunt burrow]

money is the most important thing , always keep more than 20$

[rough moth]

This is the seed

[waxen fable]

plant hunting every run 💜

[rustic haven]

😭

[gaunt burrow]

does 4 finges affect flush five or flush house

[slow iris]

yes

now you only need 4 cards of the same suit

[heavy heron]

if only…

so it’s

so you’re correct actually but to be more specific

5 cards required still, but 4 same suit

[slow iris]

yeah that's what i meant

[gaunt burrow]

not blood stone again

[glad aspen]

Dusk, bloodstone, sock, cavendish, photo

Maybe yellow deck is peak

[turbid nova]

If you added say a Jack of diamonds

It counts as a flush five

I think

[waxen fable]

no

its in the name dat those hand types need five cards

[heavy heron]

yes i believe so

[rustic haven]

just for future reference is heiroglyph ever worth taking this high ante?

[molten thicket]

heiroglyph is better to take on higher antes actually

[rustic haven]

fuck

so i shouldve

[knotty zodiac]

me: attempts streak
jimbo: "you'll keep stm as your only mult and you'll like it"

[broken swan]

Am I cooked chat?

[rustic haven]

😭

[knotty zodiac]

it does appear so

[broken swan]

How does mail in rebate interact with a full stone deck

[rustic haven]

hrm

good question

imagine it just went extinct

😭

[pallid galleon]

it goes to the default card which is ace of spades

so it shows aces

[rustic haven]

a few gold

[rustic haven]

W

kinda forgot to change my red seal suit before copying

😭

[broken swan]

Will I get money if I discard

[pallid galleon]

no

[molten thicket]

where's your money 😭

[dusty tusk]

painted deck is going to give me hemroids

[rustic haven]

thats what i was working on broo

i still have a really shit deck

so im not maximizing rebate

i think this entire run ive seen maybe

5 deaths and 4 hanged