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OMG I FINALLY GOT PAST ORANGE STAKE
if theres another xmult im crine son
alrighttt
Very funny game
FUCK YOU GAME IW AS GOING TO ATTEMPT ORANGE STAKE UNTIL I REALIZED I WAS ON PURPLE STAKE
can you even madness before balck stake give you eternal
what
if it was orange that bp prolly gonna be perish
Theres this very minor inconvienienc that i hate where i thought i selected orange stake but no apparently it was purple because when i game over on a higher stake it puts me on the lower stake
not you
do I even need blueprint here
i'm so close to beating erratic deck black stake
i don't wanna fumble 😭
Whats ramen looking like
Sell ramen and go for blueprint
Blueprint is compatable with burgular
Oh right
And then you can copy the duo after copying the burgular
Taking the blueprint would of been better since it would of been the same as ramen but without losing discard
pita when the game doesnt remember the stake. happens to me a lot
I hope that bug gets removed in the next update
burglar prevents nerfing ramen anyways
basically no difference between blueprint and ramen unless you outscale the need for mult from supernova
actually nvm you could've copied burglar with blueprint with no drawback
all good anyways
but yeah that was the play
I just found a seed without a SINGLE planet card/booster
darn really ?
3Q8I9Z7L
I was just tryna do 15 minute city
I made it to ante 8 someone
Still with a lvl 1 straight
do same seeds give you same jokers with different deck or will different deck give different seeds
Can somebody please
Tell me
How to beat this seed
Holy fuck
Its fucking impossible
This is what I ended with
QTZRYUA6
I replayed the seed to see if I can somehow get a good joker to copy
And istg none of them were worth it
Its same jokers in the shop chronologically
i have a suspicion that bp is not the play
Yea I suspect so aswell
But double bp with polychrome
Holy moly
But I tried 5 shops
and you skipped lols
No good joker
Skipped what?
ah no i misread the round counter my bad
I go flush joker on the first ante
And at some point theres a blueprint with a wheel
I take both its polychrome bp
I take the rocket aswell on ante 1 round 2/3
you didnt see the runner 4f?
ermmmm
I did but I was already on flush joker and its rental
no shot that was there
am i playing the wrong seed
Is runner a must take?
No
yes???
runner is really good on plasma... bc chips are better than mult unless you have hundreds of it
I think you gotta understand what good jokers really are
and its foil
Thats literally what im trying
yeah thats good
hologram joker saved my family from a burning building
Would u have taken runner and the 4 fingers?
QTZRYUA6 is what i pasted
I mean you arent STRICTLY playing straights
Yes its the right seed
absolutely
I see that makes sense
you're playing them to scale runner
i feel like the run is solved if i find money somewhere
no but pretty good
no
invis rental is crazy free
Right?
-6 dollars?
Chance to copy the bp
unless u already have the winning hand
after the runner 4f we are out of danger, so i would try to get to the interest cap
normal invis is more expensive than this
well in his run, he copied the blueprint
So thats a no I assume
right, esp since the runner is rental
diabolical pull
and his econ would be horrible
yes
and that caused him to die
blueprint wasnt the answer
I rolled down to see if any copy worthy joker
absolute skill issue
its not that he couldnt make use of the blueprint
its fine we all gotta learn
its just him sacrificing everything FOR the blueprint
overvaluing it
is what fucked his run up
blud sold everything else.
Bro double poly bp any chip joker and im super set until I find something
you have 20/20 hindsight now
so... ig the way i approach the game is a bit different. i try to figure out what will kill me in the next 3 rounds and fix that, and if thats secure, then the greed comes out
Interesting view
i could keep playing but if i die i think it's skill issue and not impossible seed
That does make sense
that's a wrap
well no offense but
thats even worse
figuring out the root of the problem helps alot though which is what you did
after
Why r u spelling out the obvious
saying it was an impossible seed initially
goofy ahh build
why not
Did u get the rocket
In the second buffon pack
Its kinda scaling no?
no i didnt open the buffoon pack
Cause after the first boss its net positive
ok yeah thats a wrap
i dont open a1 buffoon on plasma bc most jokers are useless so expected value is low
So you just didnt care about it cause u were going for interest?
saved for interest
that and on plasma you can live ante 1-2 without jokers typically
so waiting for something good to show up in the shop is better
I see
rather than taking a chance on a buffoon pack
Good intel
Just go flushes
I will say
Its pretty good after 2 bosses no
it takes 3 antes to make up the losses
Thats my thought process
yes but you're not at interest cap
more like break even
I see
So just go interest cap asap dont scale money cause it takes too long
so in general, money in a1 and a2 is way better than money later. so usually unless you have some other crazy source of income, rental rocket is bad
okay
rental grrr :(
wrong point to be taking
can't own anything at gold stake :(
Wait did u even take the flush joker?
just in regards to the current situation
First buffoon
perfect, only blue deck remaining for black stake
but campfire :(
By your logic u didnt
current state
Lemme try
AND MID ROUND VALUE
so one problem is i can only play one straight so the runner isnt scaling v fast yet
me when Foil and 15 frigin chips
thats fine
just win bro
the runner foil mean straights one shot
your money comes from interest and extra hands and boss bonus
"my steak too juicy and my lobster too buttery" complaint
great game plan 😭
It’ll balance things out
ig theyre saying this is not really a tough spot
Either your planets will get so good you dont need runner
we find grabber. grabber is good
Or you’ll eventually be able to scale like crazy
This was my last plasma runner run
(satellite is bad)
Runner didn’t even get that high
holy shit lv49. what a beast
I mean good runner value is one straight per round
fair. ig im too greedy
Chicot the goat
that’s with a level 12 straight or so
only 400?
holy grabber
woah
instant gamble packet
1600 chips in four hands
This is insane
is it that low
Your right
if you have a joker scaled that high
WHAT
we find blueprint
You have a free win now
i thought it was like 900chips/hand
LMAO
BLUEPRINY
I learned a lot
getting castle runner or square scaled up that high is pretty hard to do
Wait are you 2 playing the same seed
wee joker its different
ita done deal holy shit
It is
Yea i fucked up so I asked for help
yeah they crashed the seed and said it was impossible
1600 per hand with violet
4 hands
3200 to one tap vv
But idk if im gonna ask here again if people are gonna be condescending to new players
max ive gotten squoker to is like 300
@knotty zodiac appreciate you though
I low balled the fuck out of that then
np. where did the poly come from?
probably gamble
oh wheel in arcana lol. nice
i like how poly blueprint is mega crazy but in plasma it does fuckall
I have a crippling gambling addiction what can I say
the wheel hit the blueprint and its poly? lmao
i means its still 1.5X which is still boosting Xmult builds more then otehr decks
true but this run is four fingers runner
ya at this point we are no longer considering pivot right?
Bro wanna see how my run died
I couldnt find a joker so I was super man
LOL
no shotbruh
If they dont pivot its doing less than a foil by the end
This was the unseeded run
I start to like runner more too
u wot
Before I knew of the greatness of runner
oh right
Theres is an invisible joker
So I copied the the bp poly cause I thought surely there is a joker I can take after copy
And it would be a free gs run
still dont see the pivoit point of runner, if I cna stack up runner I can do straight build
all scaling chip is good, and doubly so in plasma
you dont pivot with runner usually
unless you see photochad or something
as they always say runner is not a straight joker
runner is not a straight joker on every deck that isn’t plasma
runner is hand agnostic
yes if u can play straights consistently then its like. ok yeah get chips
it is a straight joker on plasma
So you just take the straights you can with runner to build up coins but dont go for a straight build
U minmax it
if you can stack up runner then its a straight build, if you cant then you cant stack up runner anyway
but it doesn't need Straight to score its chips value
no on plasma it’s always a straight joker
not that bad
Always thought its harder than two pair etc so I never considered
i mean sure but why would you not do straight, it will almost always be your best hand if you can stack it up in the first place and sature scales well
straights can be tricky but you can usually find one per round without other tools
Especially with my poker experiences
doubling your chips on plasma deck has the effect of quadrupling your score
Can I ask you with my next problematic run if I get one aswell?
a good use case for runner in nonplasma is to run runner up to 100-150 or so and leave it and play pairs
if im around ill try to help
which is where I am confused, if you can play stright why do I want to stop and start doing pair
Id tag you if you cool with it
cuz straight is harder to play than pair
because on normal decks 150 chips is enough to start playing pairs
150 chip pairs on plasma deck is like waving a wet noodle around
it doesn’t score any points
straights are a lot of fun but they are not as consistent as pair
if you already stack it up you entier fix the deck more towards straight anyway or have some straight levels, which scale way better
Its literally free undying ice cream no
if it scaled good enough u can start greeding for the effects in the deck through pairslop
ice scream scores like 6k points
u cant do it as good when Straiggt
that can scale up when you randomly draw a straight
One more question
Would u take the rental invis afterwards
i would
It could copy 4 fingers worst case for 6$ rental fee
but i wont sell everything else for it
Pretty good no
ill jist gamble and hope for the best
Thats what im thinking
i am surprised how well vampire still scales even if I am doing pairs
hm copying 4f would be a bad outcome, its eternal so we lose a slot. i think we have enough scaling such that we dont need to gamble on it hitting runner
or bp
Maybe just take the cooler daniel and not the invis?
you're mega broke but its fine
square is unnecessary
u have 4 fingers runner, not sure abt it tbh
bait resisted
hm i havent played enough plasma but it seems like 4f runner square blueprint is enough for vv?
what bait
honest to god u could take it and it will work
vv?
love it when i think my run is dead and it somehow isnt.
Violet vessel
Lol?
violet vessel, the big boi at 2.4m chips in a8, 20% to encounter
w perkeo
im thinking about vv bc im pretty sure we're set for the other 4 bosses
where is the RED SEAL
gg
i still havent gotten im like begging the game for one
w straights ❤️🩹
hey its your two poly blueprints but you have 3 good jokers extra
Im so sad
pretty sure invis is also bait
I got taught its never bait rn
Yuh
I skipped over runner cause I thought its ass
:3
DUDE
tbf
NO THE HELL IT AINT
I just realized
plasma as your first gold stake win isn't the easiest
what bait were you talking about before
tarot merchant was great there
since there are so many more pathways and options you have to consider to win
do you think plasma is the 2nd hardest?
I can try blue deck aswell all the others I dont have that far
guys how do i beat blue deck white stake its too hard
with the addition that black deck is still
3x as hard
than plasma deck
Whats black deck? Erratic?
black deck is
black deck is black deck
black deck
this was the bait i took before
black deck is -1 hand, +1 joker slot
Ahhh okay
I’m sure ticket did its job
it did not, but i didnt get punished
Ah
Hi, year ago my safe file broke and reset my progress.
Can someone give me a safe file with almost all challenges completed, and without 3 rarest achievements?
you sold midas and not the duo.
how much is vampire at
pretty sure save files dont work like that brotato shit
chip
why did i say brotato shit
selling duo would’ve been throwing
when I sold it like 3X or something maybe 4, when I beat ante 8 it was 7.6
brochacho
😭
ah
midas likely wouldn’t have scaled madness more than a 2x throughout the rest of the run
What do u do here
it will, midas + vamp was so good and it will let golden ticket actually do shit
dont copy runner, play the ace high straight
What do I copy
or the a234
keep looking for the straight, check of which do you have more remaining, 5's or 10's
nothing
even without midas I got like 3x on vamp, with midas it will only be more
you want to intentionally sandbag scoring so you can scale runner
dude you have CHIPS
IN PLASMA
U DONT NEED mult
SPECIALLY not with runner
i may actually just all in chips when I get to Gold Plasma
dude ur at ante 5
you can
Its enough?
you’ve got troubadour and 4 fingers
if you are THAT worried just stay on high alert for the reroll voucher, even a voucher skip if you are THAT desperate
you "only" need ~800-1k raw numbers to beat plasma
scaling runner should be easy
YES YOU CAN
IDK WHY PEOPLE THINK YOU CANT KEEP SCALING
yes
which is why i am confused about why would you stop doing straight with runner
HE MAKES A STRAIGHT BUILD WORTH PLAYING
recall what i told you earlier
ME TOO!
that still applies on normal decks
I dont know how well it scales its my first time using runner
ON NORMAL decks chips may be less powerful but the SHEAR AMOUNT OF SCALING HE PROVIDES JUST MAKES IT WORTH IT
so usually in non plasma the runner goes bc saturns scale quicker and then you switch to xmult. but pivot is pretty risky in plasma
you just full copy runner if you need to score and dont copy anything if you need to scale
Would u move one blueprint?
AND BY THE TIME RUNNER IS GOOD TO GO STRAIGHTS WILL ALREADY BE A GREAT HAND!
if you can play straight to even stack up runner, just do straight, its one of the best scaling hands
and if you pull STRAIGHTS consistently WHATS THE POINT IN GOING ANYWHERE ELSE
exactly
+200 chips on a pair is better than +200 chips on a straight bc you can spam pairs
but not on plasma
you will be fixing towards easier straights along the way if your runner gets big
being able to play straights consistently is not a given
it is a given if your runner gets big, you already did it
you just need to make ur hand size a bit larger and to destroy many cards
untrue in practice
which tools like trading card help a lot in
Holy voucher pull 😭
dawg i know how you do it in theory
Should I get even Steven?
no
you either get a dead run early with runner if you cant get straight, or it gets big because you get straight and fix towards straight
man i remember this casual run
Isnt it smarter to move the blueprints away from the runner to scale it more
100 chip is like 10 pair levels, why would you even stop at ~100 with runner
yes
I oneshot every blind
i had some stupid runs back then
7 pair levels is +105 chips
if its safe, you should try to play 5 straights per round
if you ALREADY get 250, why would you stop
dear god this monstrosity
because going from 250 to 350 is not that big of a jump and i only need 250 to win with pairs
you mean 240?
or 255 runner?
if you get 250 you are one shotting blinds with straights
whats best to copy? baron? ignore photochad itll be gone once i get more steel
baron
ok ty
not necessarily
how would you even get 250 runenr if you cant consistently get straights
that’s 1 straight every 2 rounds
this run i remembered was so stupid too
assuming you get runner at ante 3, +15 per 2 rounds is
wait nvm
i had to take poly skips to afford xmult because i couldnt afford jackshit at all
but it’s really not that hard to get +250, in practice you still have a large risk of not drawing the straight
+255 runner doesn't sound that bad yeah
thats if you dont make any fixing towards easier straights
you should reduce the number of cards in your deck, have you even used hanged mands
you will be fixing for straights if you are even doin runner
not really
comically large amount of debt
I tend to add gold and blue seals even when i have runner
Im struggling with money
what do you need money fot
you should def look for something to help with econ, like gold cards or such
and straight is strong enough to almsot always one shot blinds so its not like you can stack runner while getting blue seal on pairs
^
why go through all that just to play pair when you are stacking the runner in the first place, I just dont understand
Tarot cards to deckfix
just do straights
I mean
just play more runs
i dont play 30 straights in a run just to get back to pairs
when you have a hand agnostic jokers, spammable hands like pair are just way preferrable
no xmult?
no because planet joker and fixing are all balatro
No i mean
With one balatro mechanic removed
Like no planets
Or no enhancements
Or no secret hands
Or no packs or np jokers
you can probably win without planet / tarots too
for planets to go for flush 5
and for tarots just scale ur jokers and hands well
secret hand is not a good way to win runs anyway
No
Can you win balatro without small blind
if you just mean no joker people already did it
4oak > flush5
People did no jokers . . .
5oak also > flush 5
any run on white stake is beatable normally, with that level of difficulty i'd be surprised of those WERENT possible in some games
secret hands feels like they need way more buff to be worth, even straight flush
Okay but this is physically impossible; how are you going to score 100k in at most 5 hands with base hand levels and thats it
no planets is easy
Some games are possible with one thing removed
Most commonly
Checkpoints removed
vampire is bad
no joker not no planet
I meant only one is removed
Choose one
Either no planets
No tarots
Or whatever
that is not where i got confused
Not all of them bru
ty
well yeah all of those are possible
balatro without reroll
its not all of them combined
hes just listing scenarios
Hell but possibly possible
Thanks I just got told that and also figured it out myself
cool
yes
i like vampire mroe and more, it is often even easier then hologram to stack
chad goes?
yes you buy campfire
oh wait
not funny
i just realized they're not doing plasma deck
how early do you not take campfire or you always take campfire
Like lobotomy corporation
Where one purple dude went on a mental breakdown and now you are playing the game in ultra low 144p quality
its been done thousands of times
considering theres an achievement for it lol
if it fucks up my econ so much when I buy it that its a risk taking it then im not
fun hand
Chad
vagabond gotta be one of my favourite jokers
stickers also play a factor
ty jello
its mostly before I get $25, campfire is not cheap
ft doing nothing 🔥
Hold on
What is your deck
And why you have idol yet
Yeah drop idol actually
If you already sold Chad that's ok
dont disrespect my king fortune teller
he's there for emotional support
i didnt, ty 
every mult matters ❤️
but still
Ideally when you do kings with the baron
fortune teller is good friends with vagabond, stop talking shit
my early game on this run was pretty ass
cuz i only just got trading card ante 9-12 (took heiroglyph)
he doesnt contribute at all when photochad is around
so i only just now got to thinning xd
if they were friends then ft would help vagabond out of being homeless
until you get xmult not like you really want anything
I imagine photochad combo as someone spamming the flash on a camera
With vine boom effect every time
@noble mango sorry for ping but when i pop invis should i sell all the others so i can force baron mime or bp copy?
now you know how to play plasma 🙂
well i might lose anyway, 300 mil is a little much
You should sell chad and idol
For burnt . . .
Well
😭
i kinda need burnt
bc my high card is very underleveled
Yeah that's what i thought
But chad and idol can go
i didnt think this run would turn into an endless run
i got mime baron ante 8 big blind
lmao
I guess so thanks for your patience
Blatro do be silly sometimes
balato moment
i was playing new dlc for cloverpit and it was annoying me
so i wanted to be a bit goofy in the balato
blyatto
it was fun and np!
Sometimes balatro just be like
Here's two suit changers
A flower pot, or superposition (i just started and broke)
Like
Bruh
id assume this makes 300mil
😭
this seed is very nice
Anaglyph?
Now you can give me a tutorial on pairs
or you get a poly blueprint first pack then literally zero scoring for 5 rounds and die
😎
just playing out random white stakes
LMFAO
Happened to me
lol
RIP
mfw
Lmao
hrm.. maybe slightly
Balatro do be silly sometimes
you think you ahve a perfect start until you strave to death by zero scoring
the tldr is you need some chips (a few mercuries, foil joker, runner, etc) and mult. play pairs every hand and try to get planet levels from blue seals
Btw didnyou copy the burnt
Hold on
i dont want it to hit burnt
I see
But early pair is weak no?
Did you use blueprint on burnt
lowkey have not played balatro in a hot minute
Would u roll here?
yes, until you get those enablers, you wont get enough scores from pairs, so youll have to play larger hands
Bruh
Just switch it
Then switch it back to baron
Switch when discard
+9just once, or maybe open the planet pack instead
Just pop invis
If it lands on burnt thats ok
You can reroll alot
Without selling burnt?
HOLY LUCK
Now
Copy burnt before copying baron
No luck
Actually
Copy mime
not baron?
Question
Do you have gold cards and blue seal
Those also get activated by mime
AND it also activates baron
just 1 gold i needed more but i couldnt waste my deck building by choosing other shit
i got so many deaths and hanged
so
no blues tho
Start golding
literally saw 2 spectrals this game
You will get a shit ton of cash lmao
9$ per gold card on hand when scoring btw
If you got your bp on mime
well i can always copy baron then move mime in front of both bps after i click play hand yeah?
then itll copy by the end
That didn't work like that i think
make the kings gold
Also here's the logic
3 instances of 1.5x
(1.5x 1.5 x 1.5)
Vs
1.5x triggered three times (by mime) (1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5)
- Gold triggered 3 times
Now copy mime and see the difference
W
Mime give you more money
But for max score
One bp for mime
One bp for baron
if you're using steel kings no red seal you need to split the copy jokers for the most scoring
fair
That's max score
its serpent so i think double copying mime still wins
if you double copied mime or baron it would be 2x4
it wouldnt
I'm thinking about selling a fool to open buffoon pack
Remember the cash
double copying is still better
idk
how early would eternal egg be worth if you ahve swash
just take green joker
hahaa funny
wait so do it like 1 bp on each?
Ye for score
oki
But for cash
Mime
yep
wait i have 4 hands
when scoring ends double copy mime
Ok that actually works
i have had a lot of runs where mime give me tons of cash/planets but I have yet to make baron work
You gotta be fast tho
my gold card could get slapped away
low and behold
thats what i was saying earlier!
mime does alot of things
And blue seal
baron doesnt
I like mime stm/fist more than mime baron
naninfable?
put bp over after i played it
no
wait mime retrigger fist too?
what, you didn't know that?
i thought its a joker trigger
do i anaglyph this? (and yes dw i see plant)
WAIT
NO
i
copy the arcana
bc of the 2
uh
queen red seal steels in my deck
no
i need those fucking red seal queens
ive been trying to get those to kings since ante 9
and if i dont get them
if you had gold kings econ you would have gotten it ✌️
i doubt im living past this ante
I COULDNT RISK GOLD
I WAS PLAYING NORMALLY ALL GAME UNTIL ANTE 8
when i got mime baron
😭
now im cooked
idc im taking the arcana packs
i need them
LETS GOOOO
LETS GOOOOO NEVER PUNISHED
hows that gonna help you against the plant
i have reroll voucher
now i thin you can start going for gold
or atleast
get a mail in rebate
for econ
ye
fuck.
i shouldve taken the -1 hand size
LMFAO
im gonna olose
broooo im so dumb
gg
so sad
ok red card is actually kinda good
red card uiis one of the best jokers
not sure i'll be using it often tho because it doesn't really have any synergies with exception of Hallucination
red card is good but it feels so wrong to use
but once you get out of that mindset its one of the best scaling jokers
I LOVE MY LIFE
fire
Me when having red card
: just open booster packs
And if it's fucking shit (most of the time)
You get mult instead of nothing
MICHEL DIDNT BREAK
W gold sticker
man im so close

finished the run, square just gets in the way of drawing straights
3 commons, 4 uncommons, and 1 rare
im guessing hikers gonna be tha last kinda
or stonejo
somehow I kept losing with Acnient Jo
you kinda need to get lucky or a lot of wild card to make it work?
I meaaann I dont consider it hard to play around, I just suck at my recent attempts at it lol
No, you just win with chips more likely
photochad
Photosockchad
i swapped
for 6s
okay...
worth over 2nd chad?
bc genuinely
Oops
All photochad
this is the run that gives me mime baron ante 8
so like
i played the seed again
just on ghost deck
so technically it could get fucked by a random spectral card
but idc
its worth the shot
i need something to cook my deck though i havent gottena single immolate or hanged
this is after the run
but i’ve had other times where it just gives me the stickers after beating anti 8
well i’ve never seen it otherwise
fahh
would have gotten michael too
i’ve heard that banana is annoying af to get too
well ...
😭
skipping the blind
stencil tribe wins...?
sell everything. Pivot to stencil
yep
tho doesn't matter i still lost this run
rip
i hope this is finally the run i beat purple stake with
AHHHHHH
This is why I sometimes just skip the blind to avoid this
finally retcon
FNALLY AN IMMOLATE
omg mari omori
Alright alright. 1 take gold stake run any deck. What deck we thinking bout.
What's the deck I haven't done for this series probably like red or sumn
lmao
Hallo gays
gayd
praying this kills him
W
get FUCKED
gg
gold stake left and im done with this horrific deck
what have you done to Card Sharp
cursed
Welp that was a silly midas vampire run
ahhhhh
got my red seals a lot faster and now im working on deck thinning
no more orange stake deck , so i have to grind
thats js sad bro
wtf did you spawn into my run
😭
thats crazy
Alright alright. 1 take gold stake run any deck. What deck we thinking bout.
GHOST
Toast deck
raffle
bread joker
yes


