🕹・game-discussion

[devout roost]

somebody also said blue

[tough ruin]

If negative yes

[shell dagger]

you will

[empty sierra]

This sucks

[ancient gyro]

my player 2 🗣️❤️

[surreal spruce]

Your player 1*

[pale wolf]

question: which deck has the most skill expression
answer: #🕹・game-discussion

[fast hedge]

why is it so

blue

[willow frost]

so this is that blueprint mod everyone's been hyping up

[devout roost]

why blue

[empty sierra]

Camera quality

[pallid galleon]

how did you manage to get 6 copies of the blue joker

[empty sierra]

Wym

[ancient gyro]

🫶

[ocean plover]

FOR WHAT IS A MAAAAANNNNN WHAT HAS HE DOONEEEE

[terse dock]

You lose a slot yes

[tough ruin]

Haven’t played on PlayStation Balatro for a while. Btw, did you know early on, consoles had the updates later than pc/mobile?

[empty sierra]

What do you mean

[pale wolf]

most hands= most overall resources

[drowsy rain]

full house 🙏❤️‍🩹

[terse dock]

Look closely

[slate glade]

What's the best deck to beat white stake?

[candid niche]

mistakes are being made

[terse dock]

Also its the screen

[narrow scroll]

😭 😭

[knotty zodiac]

blue/yellow

[ocean plover]

full house aint even that bad

[pallid galleon]

oh shit theres a 7th blue joker in the shop, is this a bugged seed??

[fast hedge]

erratic imo, with a decent start

[empty sierra]

I dont know

[willow frost]

he might be playing with mods

[slate glade]

Ive been trying yello I'll try blue this run

[terse dock]

OK the bit wasn't funny the first time fellas

[devout roost]

is there anyway to lose a white stake run playing optimally

[empty sierra]

My camera quality wait i send again a picture

[terse dock]

no

[devout roost]

it really was

[terse dock]

By definition no

[slate glade]

I feel like regardless of the start I have I always lose

[willow frost]

seriously though why does this make it so blue

[ocean plover]

these were my jokers btw

[terse dock]

Humor is subjective

[pallid galleon]

nah its ok just joking around

[knotty zodiac]

probably some cursed black deck seed

[fast hedge]

i love how only the star looks normal

[shell dagger]

if they had beat orange stake they probably wouldn’t be asking the question tbf

[devout roost]

uhhhhh

how do i rephrase it

so you dont nitpick

playing the best lines i guess

[ancient gyro]

an extra hand translates to a lot of accessible resources (deck digging, money, scaling, certain boss interactions, etc)

[terse dock]

Still no

[fast hedge]

i completely forgot you had to unlock decks mb

[empty sierra]

What is the star

[terse dock]

There are no found impossible seeds on gold stake let alone white stake

[willow frost]

the tarot card in that shop

[devout roost]

no i mean like assuming you play the best anyone can but still lose due to unforseen circumstances

[narrow scroll]

is this true for goldstake too

[devout roost]

i get that no seed is impossible

[pale wolf]

bruh

[soft forge]

hi salsa

[ancient gyro]

so far we can't confirm nor deny an unwinnable seeded white stake run provided no bugs

[knotty zodiac]

an extra hand for someone who hasnt beat ws yet is mainly $1 and some extra scoring. but thats still plenty

[devout roost]

i dont mean impossible

[drowsy rain]

There was an impossible one the other day, I lost and since I never lose it must be impossible

[fast hedge]

sooo... what now?

[gentle basalt]

Again, this is bullshit. You cant know the seed. You should count this statistic with optimal play without information

[pale wolf]

I don't think you could even construct a seed that is impossible on gold stake

[narrow scroll]

let me ask questions i'm not the brighest

[devout roost]

but like do you think theres any seeds where a supercomputer coded to play as best as possible would lose on its first go

[shell dagger]

it’s so easy

[devout roost]

on ws

[terse dock]

Optimal play without information is still optimal play you just pick the best line

[shell dagger]

last time someone claimed that i cooked one up in 10 seconds

[fast hedge]

wasnt there an impossible black deck gold stake one?

[shell dagger]

and it hasn’t been refuted yet

[terse dock]

if you purposefully play jokerless yes

[ancient gyro]

which one is that

[narrow scroll]

oh wait i see the issue now

[ancient gyro]

lol

[cursive lion]

shit

[fast hedge]

idk this is just of the top of my head

[cursive lion]

forwarded it to the wrong server

[pale wolf]

what is it

[devout roost]

black deck gold jokerless is probably like 95% impossible seeds right?

[cursive lion]

a personal friend's server has a channel called "game-discussion"

im sorry

[terse dock]

Naw we've only found one seed

[shell dagger]

.

[frank grove]

hypotheticals are weird cause coding this theoretical supercomputer to beat balatro would take forever so

[gentle basalt]

No, for example,
It may be optimal to discard for the flush which you have 4 of already, because its more likely, but sometimes you would have had some other straight. You cannot predict that.

[humble gulch]

Well, I'm winning now

[devout roost]

maybe yeah

[terse dock]

Then thats not optimal play is it

Strictly optimal does not respect logic

[devout roost]

it is without perfect information

[gentle basalt]

Educate yourself. You are dumb

[ancient gyro]

oh

[knotty zodiac]

all praise the bus

[rich mauve]

you can

there are enough non-scoring cards to block scoring cards (jokers, tarots, spectrals, skips etc.)

[candid niche]

this is stupid

[terse dock]

The fact that you skipped straight to insulting me suggests the same about your ability

[ancient gyro]

first to insult loses

[gentle basalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[marble turret]

what the fuck

[lucid fox]

dude can't even spell dominator

[fast hedge]

ad hominem spotted in its natural habitat:

[devout roost]

if the shop was only the tower/hierophant and all the packs were useless then you easily could right

[fallow shadow]

theres no way to lose this game at all

[rich mauve]

which I did, but it's pointless and improbable based on the amount of seeds we have

[frank grove]

this is crazyyy btw??

[fallow shadow]

i have never lost a game of balatro in my entire life and i never will

[fast hedge]

what the fuck??????

[gentle basalt]

There is context behind that

[candid niche]

average lich phylactery

[ancient gyro]

only econ jokers, no tarots spectrals or planets in the shop, all standard packs with no enhancements, only tags that give money, only magic trick offered (then no playing cards in shop), then wait till the blind requirements exceed 4 flush 5s

yeah thats pretty straightforward

[fast hedge]

give me yourseed bro

[devout roost]

ez

[drowsy rain]

What if everything in the shop was eternal rental zany and mad joker, on every reroll it was the same, and every pack was a normal buffoon pack with eternal rental sly and jolly joker, and every voucher was tarot merchant

[gentle basalt]

It was mispelled knowingly for a reason

[drowsy rain]

like can I just do that

[fast hedge]

i crave your seed

[foggy pond]

80%

[tough ruin]

This is the closest I’ve seen to a genuine god pack, like WTF

[shell dagger]

i later named 8 useless vouchers under these conditions so even if u take magic trick there’s no getting out of it

[willow frost]

this is the third time ive seen a screenshot of 4 souls in a pack in the last week, something is going on

[knotty zodiac]

showman good. qed

[viral raft]

Well done!

[humble gulch]

Alright

[fast hedge]

WHAT IS THE SEED

[terse dock]

Goodbye chat

[marble turret]

one sec. I preparing a post in a seeds channel

[ancient gyro]

it's my turn to post the same two year seeded screenshot today

[willow frost]

why do you need 2000 rounds lmao

[gentle basalt]

Anyways,
Consider this:

Somebody offers you to flip an unbiased coin. Heads you win 1.5$, tails you lose 1$.
Do you do it?

To maximize expected money, ofcourse

So the 50% you lose, did you play unoptimally?
No, you just did not have perfect information

[fallow shadow]

you guys ever heard of bloodstone?

whafs up with that thanng

[ancient gyro]

who

[frank grove]

bloodwhat now?

[shell dagger]

rough gem?

[terse dock]

Yeah you did cause even luck factors into optimization

[marble turret]

check the seeds channel

[gentle basalt]

Dude what??

[shell dagger]

i don’t think you’re digging out of this hole

[ancient gyro]

does she have a dumpy

[devout roost]

this conflicts with your reasoning

[terse dock]

They call be the dwarf for a reason rt

[harsh relic]

nice!!

[lament thicket]

what channel would i use if i need help making a deck decision

[terse dock]

watch this

[fallow shadow]

someone tell me who i should agree with in this discussion im too tired to form my own opinions

[ancient gyro]

this one in about 45 minutes

[fallow shadow]

salsas had a good track record should i side with salsa

[terse dock]

dont car

[ancient gyro]

or run discussion

[rich mauve]

what

can you tell me what is the optimization when you are left with 50/50

[willow frost]

run discussion

[devout roost]

shit my bad you right

[ancient gyro]

holy yap

[terse dock]

Guessing correctly

[gentle basalt]

Fair enough

I did not consider that

[lament thicket]

ty

[devout roost]

yeah i dont think anyone did

damn hes good

[rich mauve]

how do you guess correctly?

[terse dock]

A Time Machine

[willow frost]

turns out everyone's just suboptimal

[terse dock]

predicted

[frank grove]

also how do you even define optimal play in balatro? isnt this argument all about a theoretical unwinnable seed where you die to a bad draw in ante 1 anyway

[ancient gyro]

a time machine? 🦃

[rich mauve]

how do you predict?

[devout roost]

thats impossible btw

[terse dock]

no i mean I predicted you asking that

[devout roost]

no ante 1 is impossible

[terse dock]

A Time Machine

[gentle basalt]

Maximize probability of win
Excluding infinite things, like tarot looping, balatro can definitely be solved

[frank grove]

then how is any seed unwinnable then?

[ancient gyro]

a time machine? 🦃

[terse dock]

A time machine.

[devout roost]

if you dont have any options to score then you just die the second the blinds become too much

[frank grove]

but you do get options

[ancient gyro]

a time machine

[devout roost]

yeah but like

what if you dont

[frank grove]

you get celest packs and arcana packs on non bugged seeds

[rich mauve]

again, there are enough non-scoring cards to block scoring ones

[shell dagger]

not proven

[mental bloom]

GEOMETRY DASH MENTIONED ???

[rich mauve]

you can craft one

[terse dock]

We're going back in time to get THE COIN FLIP. 100%. CORRECT.

[devout roost]

what if

you dont?

[frank grove]

but again we havent had a single seed like this so this doesnt matter?

[terse dock]

blue seal in the standard pack

[devout roost]

dude its a hypothetical

no duh

[shell dagger]

its like claiming all sequences of numbers appear inside pi, its highly likely but not proven true

[devout roost]

what if.... you dont?

[gentle basalt]

There is a non-zero probability you dont get one before you end up dying

[proven vapor]

HELP do i take the idol here?

[terse dock]

blue seal in the buffoon pack

[shell dagger]

no

[terse dock]

No

[hidden lance]

damn

[devout roost]

truuu!!!!!

debunked once again

damn hes good

[rich mauve]

it doesn't

that's why balatro is winnable based on the informationn we have, not in theory

no one cares about theory anyways

[devout roost]

play the winning hand

[terse dock]

I am the Albert Epstein of balatro

[wintry ice]

is this about a seed that's unwinnable on sightread or

[narrow scroll]

crimson heart is the worst boss blind to ever boss blind because it hates everyone

[devout roost]

unwinnable in general

[ancient gyro]

unwinnable seed hypotheticals

[shell dagger]

i care about theory

[narrow scroll]

is localthunk behind every crimson heart or is it just a really angry guy

[gentle basalt]

Unwinnable (with perfect information) seed probably does not exist

Just too unlikely

[willow frost]

keep the driver's license-less ones away from him

[devout roost]

what if its black deck gold jokerless

[frank grove]

also you would have to die in ante 1 anyway

[gentle basalt]

Doesnt exist

[devout roost]

nah

[frank grove]

past ante 1 you see enough stuff you'll be able to do things

[rich mauve]

probably

(not 100% but who cares)

[humble gulch]

Cube wave balala

[shell dagger]

i don’t think anyone’s claiming that every black deck jokerless gold stake run is possible

[devout roost]

but what if... you dont?

[terse dock]

invents fibonacci
traffics kids to a violet vessel
dies

[shell dagger]

that would be silly

[devout roost]

well im asking a different question arent i

[ancient gyro]

the 10k bounty for searching an unwinnable seed doesn't include bugs to be clear

[frank notch]

thanks for a useless joker wraith

[terse dock]

You get $4 back

[humble gulch]

Searching for a seed that doesn't exist

[frozen ridge]

how do ppl even get above e29? its my hghest so far and i cant figure out how ppl get higher

[rich mauve]

guys you know, all electrons in the universe can spawn inside you for a second

it's a very low chance but not 0

again, nobody cares about this

[shell dagger]

guide: naneinf on the wiki

[devout roost]

you say that as you have polychrome showman right next to him

[ancient gyro]

afaik

[frozen ridge]

what do you guys think is the best deck?

[devout roost]

would i die

[frozen ridge]

iv been using plasma deck

[frank notch]

im not aiming for baron mime

[narrow scroll]

and then the challenger blind is a yellow plant

[frank notch]

i hate baron mime

[gentle basalt]

Yellow/blue
Plasma is bait at high stakes, works well on low stakes

[devout roost]

"i hate the best meta in this game"

[terse dock]

brother the entire solar system would die

[wintry ice]

blue and yellow are the most consistent

[devout roost]

why

[terse dock]

probably the galaxy too

[devout roost]

thats not nice

[terse dock]

Bobm

[waxen quartz]

best deck is what's fun, for me it's anaglyph

[rich mauve]

universe would probably die and you'd become the strongest black hole

[frank grove]

blue/yellow, i like abandoned and zodiac but blue and yellow are good allrounders

[devout roost]

yo lets go i get power scalewd

[frozen ridge]

my highest is orange stake XD

[frank notch]

"the best meta" and its really hard to make work in ante 8 runs

[terse dock]

So you like doing nothing all game

[devout roost]

power scalers finna go CRAZY with this one

[wintry ice]

yeah especially for gold stake ante 8!

[terse dock]

Define best

[devout roost]

its not objectively the best but its objectively the most fun

[gentle basalt]

Not everyone is playing multiplayer bro 🥀

[devout roost]

most fun

[shell dagger]

after rereading i think i answered your question in that message anyway

[devout roost]

multiplayer has a tempo meta

[frank notch]

its not even the most fun

[devout roost]

yeah

[terse dock]

That is subjective though

[frank notch]

its just the most optimal strat for naneinf

[devout roost]

objectively wrong

[wintry ice]

objectively a subjective matter

[devout roost]

my dopamine says otherwise

[frank notch]

ragebait

[devout roost]

objectively wrong

[devout roost]

okay whats better

[frozen ridge]

just basic extra things at start seems kinda boring, but oh well

[terse dock]

And my dopamine suggests that fibonacci is the best archetype

[ancient gyro]

blue - best
yellow - mix of good and easy
abandoned - most dynamic
checkered - most straightforward
zodiac - highest shop volume

[wintry ice]

exactly

[frank notch]

like anything else

blackboard + stuntman???

[devout roost]

ew gay

[frank grove]

guys i cant wait to wait 5 minutes for my hand to score!!! i love baron mime so much !!!

[terse dock]

@lost vault

[devout roost]

like nothing wrong with being gay but thats gay

[devout roost]

no femboys are chill

[shell dagger]

commas are important

[narrow scroll]

shortcut superposition runs are the most fun

[frank notch]

"nothing wrong with being gay" proceeds to use it derogatorily

[ancient gyro]

@serene forge

[devout roost]

its okay because im queer

so i get to

[frank notch]

source?

[devout roost]

its one of the special buffs with liking dudes

[devout roost]

idk i can show you my gifs

[frank notch]

that doesnt prove anything

[terse dock]

he likes dingaling

[humble gulch]

We shoot the moon

[devout roost]

okay well how does anyone know theyre gay

[ancient gyro]

false until proven otherwise

[frank notch]

i need an article from a trusted source detailing how gay you are

[devout roost]

its not provable

[rich mauve]

another 5 mins if you are preparing your hand

[devout roost]

shit okay one sec

[frank notch]

preferrably from the nyt

[devout roost]

-nyt

[humble gulch]

Maybe not

[devout roost]

ok gg i win next game

[shell dagger]

goodbye chat i need to study how biological pattern formation in animals is modelled

[terse dock]

Is this peer reviewed?

[devout roost]

yeah we're peers right

[drowsy rain]

Guys I’m on my 8th hand on serpent with my baron mime burglar build, only 30 more minutes until I get my full hand

who’s excited

[frank notch]

give the link

[terse dock]

Yeah but so were Andrew Wakefield and Hugh Fudenberg and they caused uncountable numbers of child death

[frank notch]

holy shit i love builds that are only being useful on plasma deck and endless runs

[devout roost]

fuck

fuck you embed

fucking

menaie

[random terrace]

Hahaha

[frank notch]

ive memorized that link anyways

[devout roost]

ignore that

[lucid fox]

HAHAHAHa

[ancient gyro]

oh cool

[glad aspen]

Hit the road has proved itself time and time again and has finally made its way into my top 5 rare jokers

[devout roost]

have you tried telling them to not kill children

would be bennficial

[terse dock]

The joker that scales twice as fast as obelisk is good????

[devout roost]

technically doesnt scale faster if it goes back to 1x

well i mean it depends

[terse dock]

Obelisk does as well

[devout roost]

not if you play 20 pairs

[ancient gyro]

or 7

[gentle basalt]

Or 4

[devout roost]

i personally play 9 its the sweet spot for me

[glad aspen]

Well youre not supposed to make obelisk go back to zero

[devout roost]

i like the cushion room

[frank notch]

all jokers that increase are scaling

[terse dock]

I call this one the strawman

[frank grove]

put the screenshots in the bag 😭

[ancient gyro]

or 1 @tua

[devout roost]

a man who thinks all the time has nothing to think about except thoughts ig

[frank notch]

asylum patients:

[narrow scroll]

what is the worst scaling joker

[ancient gyro]

im too lazy

[terse dock]

One tuah

Number on that thang

[devout roost]

idk probably obelisk

[ancient gyro]

throwback

[devout roost]

if you listen to bean

[terse dock]

bloodstone

[rich mauve]

30 mins with suboptimal joker order

could have been 60

[ancient gyro]

bloodstuh doesn't scale technically

[frank grove]

throwback

[frank notch]

vampire imo

[ancient gyro]

huh

[glad aspen]

I just had a run that was Spearhead, Swash, egg, acrobat, hit the road, my highest hand was like 700k or something

[terse dock]

scales with retriggers

[devout roost]

vampire is like good though

[frank grove]

vampire is good?

[frank notch]

ive had at least one run where my score calculator faltered because i used it and i lost

[gentle basalt]

Just get dice
Easy scaling

[devout roost]

well no not good

but like

its viable

[frank notch]

it pmo

[drowsy rain]

Vampire is high cortisol loser chud xmult scaling

[devout roost]

manually calc it

like all of us do

[frank notch]

that takes too much time

[devout roost]

yeah u right

[ancient gyro]

us?

[frank grove]

who needs calc?

[devout roost]

you manually calculate right

[frank notch]

real ones never look at the score

[glad aspen]

Vampire is low cortisol idk what you mean, get vampire, get midas, full house face cards, xmult

[ancient gyro]

my masters degree

[frank notch]

"get two specific uncommons"

[drowsy rain]

not every day that I can pull a midas mask out my butt

[devout roost]

bette than throwback

lol

[frank notch]

good point

[fossil raft]

Is that short for something?

[glad aspen]

But its low cortisol

So like

Idc

[ancient gyro]

i can eyeball the first two sf of my score and use basic division and upper bound scoring reasoning to maximize value for certain things

[devout roost]

calc is short for calculator for those who are new to the stream

[tardy zinc]

We eating good, I wonder how far I can go with this (Plasma Deck btw)

[terse dock]

Yeah you can it just has to appear there first

[fossil raft]

Thank you for clarifying

[frank notch]

if you cant vampmaxx and midasmaxx you should restartmaxx

[devout roost]

dude you have me fucked if you think i understood any of what you just said

[ancient gyro]

ok nvm

[devout roost]

oh wait okay i read it

i get it

but like

[ancient gyro]

pretend what I said was an ad hominem

[frank grove]

you can just estimate your score based off what you've already scored

[devout roost]

well yeha

thats what most people do

[fringe nebula]

you can get 5 gold stake winstreak by simply eyeballing

[ancient gyro]

I take upper bound scoring into account on my last hand before I play my first or second hand as an example if I need to say scale obelisk without low rolling a pair or something

[devout roost]

you can probably get up to 20 just eyeballing tbh

[fringe nebula]

true

or not

[ancient gyro]

or 93 if sui eyeballed every single run lol

[devout roost]

it depends on your luck

[devout roost]

who sui

[ancient gyro]

highest gs win streak holder

[devout roost]

its not doc?

[ancient gyro]

doc has 67 rotating

[edgy stone]

I love Flush! Best hand to beat goldstake

[ancient gyro]

sui has 93 blue

[devout roost]

no its the same cause its multiplicative

[drowsy rain]

Probably could be if he put all his time into it but I assume he’s a content creator first

[devout roost]

mmmmm

im very happy

[knotty zodiac]

multiplication is commutative, its the same

[devout roost]

i said doc wasnt the best singleplayer player and everyone jumped me

[fringe nebula]

another vampire hater 🗿

[slow iris]

2 x 3 is 6
3 x 2 is also 6

[frank notch]

basic mathematical property btw

[knotty zodiac]

who is

[devout roost]

you dont gotta be a dick about it

[devout roost]

idk probably sui

or smth

i dont really believe in definitive "best" players

[drowsy rain]

“Best singleplayer player” is the most subjective statement ever

[devout roost]

there are definitely skillsets

[devout roost]

yeah exactly

[frank notch]

there is no one best singleplayer player

[devout roost]

i got jumped in the mp discord for saying doc wasnt the best

[ancient gyro]

lol

[soft talon]

I am actually so fucking stupid...

[ancient gyro]

best is up for discussion but doc can be up there in terms of like existing feats

[edgy stone]

No, move it to the leftmost is better... for Grimbo farming

[ancient gyro]

stupid never left my room

[devout roost]

well yeah sure i can say like top 10-5 pretty easily

maybe even higher

[frank notch]

grimbo's farming doesnt change

[devout roost]

but like i dont think even if i thought a "best" existed that he would be the best

[slow iris]

less score on purpose

[maiden idol]

im in the final stretch of gold stake jokers that i need to complete but i dont know exactly how to go about it deck wise. I keep getting mixed results from all strats whether blue deck for the hands, anaglyph and praying for negative vouchers, spectral and polychroming a non gold stake joker, but idk what is best

[frank notch]

true..

[knotty zodiac]

doc is the top balatro streamer making instructional content

[drowsy rain]

how it feels to play a low pair instead of a high pair so I can get +1 more mult on my bus

[devout roost]

blue is probably fine

[fringe nebula]

any deck you're most comfortable with

[edgy stone]

Wdym doesnt change?

[frank grove]

play whatever you're best at

[frank notch]

nvm

[fringe nebula]

as long as you have the money to reroll to find the joker

[devout roost]

green deck so underrated

i love it

[drowsy rain]

green deck so underHATED

I HATE it

[frank grove]

😭

[knotty zodiac]

not anaglyph. any deck youre comfortable winning on plus good econ for ante 8 rerolling will do it

[devout roost]

nah u bad

name 1 thing bad with it

[drowsy rain]

It’s green

[frank notch]

ghost deck

[maiden idol]

oh yeah i meant ghost deck not spectral*

[fringe nebula]

green deck sucks

[rich mauve]

discourages you from the pairs

[frank notch]

ghost deck is the best, you get free polychrome and access to really good cards in shop

[frank grove]

i think green in general rewards you for risker decisions like playing into one shots instead of scaling jokers

[devout roost]

thats a good thing hidden in disguise

[sweet tartan]

Just finished my first run
I'm low-key goated ain't i

[drowsy rain]

real talk not managing interest and just spending down is just not fun to me

[rich mauve]

ikr

[devout roost]

you pair slop monsters are stinky

4oak is where its at

[fringe nebula]

bad econ

[devout roost]

youre bad econ

stinky

:(

[frank notch]

i always either play pairs, high card, or in the event of getting pants, 2 pair

[maiden idol]

LMFAO just started a run where i skipped first small blind for a rare joker and got a polychrome blueprint with no downsides on gold stake

[fringe nebula]

no u

[frank notch]

never anything else

[willow frost]

no i didnt

[drowsy rain]

no scoring jokers sorry

[fringe nebula]

poly is enough

[frank grove]

its poly

[frank notch]

what is blueprint without friends?

-socrates

[willow frost]

poly

[edgy stone]

You've beaten me several times, I hate you

[drowsy rain]

who’s poly

[rich mauve]

you have 3 rounds at best to live, buddy

realistically 1

[willow frost]

someone's parrot prolly

[drowsy rain]

Good for that parrot honestly

[rich mauve]

I'm pacifist

[frank notch]

did polly ever get a cracker

[rich mauve]

: (

[knotty zodiac]

they did, 1.5 times

[fringe nebula]

what

[knotty zodiac]

both ofc 😛

[frank notch]

i cast yorick

[old hearth]

i just lost at ante 2 i need to stop playing this game forever dude

[edgy stone]

Need some tips for magic deck from you

[frank notch]

which do i take

[devout roost]

dont skip for rares on gold btw

[fringe nebula]

triple devil, triple hermit, triple judgement

[fringe nebula]

grimbo

[devout roost]

both

in an ideal world

but like here probably neither

take grimbo and sell

those are rental right?

[drowsy rain]

Sell grimbo for interest get that loser out of here

[devout roost]

i cant tell

[fringe nebula]

nope

[devout roost]

oh word

[fringe nebula]

it's a clean grimbo

[willow frost]

nice tp

[devout roost]

grimbo clean is like an insta win

who needs burglar

[old hearth]

this is white stake

[edgy stone]

I usually triple planet, is it worth?

[willow frost]

maybe the first tp i actually like

[devout roost]

lmaooo youre buns

[frank notch]

the stickers?

[willow frost]

yeah

[fringe nebula]

triple planet is also worth it

[waxen quartz]

skip for red card

[fringe nebula]

you can also do triple death blue seal or triple hangman

[frank notch]

should i publish it?

[old hearth]

i know

[devout roost]

its okay though

lock in i believe in you

[willow frost]

WE are buns

[devout roost]

WHOS WE 😭

[old hearth]

i think i'm just fundamentally an idiot and suck at this game

[drowsy rain]

YOU and ME

[willow frost]

that's right you and me, WE are all buns

[devout roost]

maybe you fundamentally suck at the game and the games an idiot

[frank notch]

ante 1 nat negative for an unstickered joker ‼️

[devout roost]

you french? i dont know what youre talking about lil bro

[devout roost]

skip it cuz you cant hex it

[drowsy rain]

I didn’t even say we airball

[devout roost]

oh fuck

[slow iris]

oh ok

[devout roost]

zamn i fumbled gg

[devout roost]

?????

[willow frost]

gg cooked

[frank notch]

i sold the hex instead

[devout roost]

unoptimal

[slow iris]

!?

[knotty zodiac]

here win

[frank notch]

NO scoring jokers

[fringe nebula]

a full setup at ante 3 is insane lmao

[safe flower]

Guess who couldn't find an extra joker slot to literally save his life

[devout roost]

chad is like the pinaccle of a scoring joker wym

how tf do you spell that

pinnacle

[frank notch]

youre right

but it does nothing for my build

[devout roost]

i hate double letters

so confusing

[frank notch]

"leTTers"

[devout roost]

yeah that one is kinda funny

"necessarry" used to be the hardest shit for me ever growing up

wait

neccessary

what

how do you spell????

[cursive crater]

neccesary

[lucid fox]

necessary

[cursive crater]

fuck

[devout roost]

lmao

[devout roost]

ty max

[lucid fox]

:)

[cursive crater]

thank you max

[frank notch]

necessary is unnecessary

[knotty zodiac]

necceessarryy

[devout roost]

no amount of balatro game knowledge can save me from knowing how english works

genuine horseshit lenguage

language

[mint jetty]

Would you take the normal or the jumbo pack?

[wintry ice]

sounds worth it tbh

[devout roost]

jumbo

[cursive crater]

jumbo

[devout roost]

2 extra dollars

for 2 extra jokers

sign me up

[mint jetty]

Yes you get to see more jokers

But its more expensive

Idk

[devout roost]

holy yes

[devout roost]

worth it

[mint jetty]

Bruh

[devout roost]

what else were you gonna do with 2 dollars

[slow iris]

damn

bigger than bus

[mint jetty]

Save for later

[slow iris]

still not taking though

[knotty zodiac]

powerball ticket

[devout roost]

and then spend it on seeing more jokers

[devout roost]

this isnt hot potato sadly but good idea

[mint jetty]

Could get interest earlier i think

[devout roost]

so could finding an econ joker

or scoring

since scoring lets you get out quicker

[mint jetty]

Makes sense

[old hearth]

i hate this boss

[devout roost]

how were you scoring even close to what the blinds needed with scary face and 2 flush jokers

lol

goated meta

[full lantern]

I hate black deck, I'm happy to be done with it now

[wintry ice]

expecting a new player to be able to grind to lucky in 1 day

[humble gulch]

Do I play for a straight or a two pair

[knotty zodiac]

unused justice 🙁

[fossil raft]

All in

[knotty zodiac]

strush to activate your seance

[royal bobcat]

😭

[wintry ice]

this is pretty good with castle on this deck

[old hearth]

i only got 3k anyways i don't think it would've helped

[royal bobcat]

AND the htr

[wintry ice]

why is gd poker a thing

[royal bobcat]

it couldve been goated

[wintry ice]

mfw perishable

[royal bobcat]

everything is a thing in gd

[royal bobcat]

i know i said it couldve been goated

but its not

so im sad

[fringe nebula]

the run was already over at ante 3

[wintry ice]

hi sad

i should have bought something holy shit

high cortisol pair gameplay

[knotty zodiac]

dub is dub

[wintry ice]

do i sell egg or golden for this

[fringe nebula]

maybe egg

golden gives immediate value instead of having to wait for temperance

[old hearth]

how long do most people take to get a win anyways it's been like 33 hours now

[fringe nebula]

20 minutes

or 30

depends on how hard the seed is

[knotty zodiac]

at 30 hrs youre probably missing something fundamental

[fiery nymph]

i won my 3rd game iirc

aj the goat

[eager summit]

it is fate

[fringe nebula]

pairslop time

[tardy zinc]

[wintry ice]

i'm gonna take the arcana first then

no temp

[fringe nebula]

as long as you can beat ante 8 everything is fine

[wintry ice]

funny number

i feel like this is better than chaos

[tardy zinc]

I'm at ante 9 actually

[old hearth]

like what

[scenic sigil]

Do you mean gold stake?

[old hearth]

white

[scenic sigil]

You need to go to balatroU and learn fundamentals

[knotty zodiac]

not sure. maybe youre undervaluing or underusing econ jokers. maybe you need more blue seals

[slow iris]

oh

[scenic sigil]

Tell us your favourite joker

[humble gulch]

(Does nothing)

[safe flower]

O7, voucher whiffs and no ecto

[old hearth]

ok well i never have blue seals

[prime valve]

Carries the whole run

[safe flower]

Temperance value

[scenic sigil]

You guys don't understand the splash seeing double and flower pot synergy

[slow iris]

true

[tardy zinc]

splash water

[fossil raft]

You’re not gonna believe me but I’ve had like 1 run saved by this rascal

[compact gazelle]

resets buses when you play to discard

also scores my gold seals for tackon money

[knotty zodiac]

blue seals are very good. in a lot of runs you can be getting a mercury every round. btw pairs are also quite good once you have some +chip

[fringe nebula]

seeing double enabler

[scenic sigil]

Flower pot enabler...

John how do you usually try to win

[random terrace]

Have yall ever tried bacon with maple syrup?

[old hearth]

why are pairs good? i basically always do flushes or straights

[fringe nebula]

pair is good because there are alot of jokers that synergizes with it

[knotty zodiac]

because you can play them every hand.

[fringe nebula]

also blue seal

pair requires less deckfixing too

[old hearth]

i'll try pairs then i guess

should i do blue deck then

[knotty zodiac]

blue is solid

[fringe nebula]

what do i take here

probably runner

[wintry ice]

yea

[eager summit]

that was a rather easy blue stake

[fiery nymph]

runner 100%

[pale wolf]

whats better bloodstone or greedy joker

[fiery nymph]

greedy joker

[pale wolf]

what's better greedy joker or hiker

[rugged bloom]

chat i need some help

my crimson bean bug isn't working

[devout roost]

bloodstone

[pale wolf]

what

[devout roost]

gg

[pale wolf]

thats dead and gone homie

we onto hiker v greedy

[old hearth]

wait so should i be playing two pair or literally just pair

[rugged bloom]

My bean bug isn't working ya'll

[wintry ice]

gold seal

[wintry ice]

pair outside of 3 of the harder decks

[pale wolf]

i mean, it depends
but probably pairs

[wintry ice]

(black, painted and high stake plasma)

[slow iris]

some shenanigans

tarot tycoon is amazing

[knotty zodiac]

this would be their first win on ws. def keep it simple and play pairs

[pale wolf]

as long as you have the points to win the round with it, pairs end up being very safe

flush on checkered is as reliable as pairs

[rugged bloom]

bean bug isn't working :<

can anyone help with that please

[frank notch]

hack

[old hearth]

ok i was playing pairs and lost round 5

[knotty zodiac]

you cant play pairs until you have +chip

[wintry ice]

+mult*

[scenic sigil]

This guy's new to the game and you're already forcing him to play pairslop 😢

you can easily win on white stake with flushes or straights you don't need to pairmax

you must be missing something big

you're either not getting proper scaling jokers, under-leveling your hands, or not getting x-mult in the second half

[knotty zodiac]

pairs are the most consistent winning strat. just because youre bored of pairs, doesnt make it bad for beginners

[wintry ice]

we gotta raise the next generation of bloodstone haters

[scenic sigil]

You can do literally anything and win on white stake

pairslopping is unnecessary

He must be missing something much more fundamental

[knotty zodiac]

they have been trying for 30 hours. let them play something ez instead of tryharding

[frank grove]

yes but the reasons pairslop is good still stands for other stuff the general princables of +mult +chips and xmult still stands

[rugged bloom]

guys can anyone help me out please

[scenic sigil]

this guy needs to hop on these fundamentals instead of learning to pairslop

[wintry ice]

feels weird to advocate for not teaching one of the core parts of the game

pair slop is pretty fundamental to higher stakes

[scenic sigil]

His issue isn't that he's not playing pairs there are bigger issues at stake

He can't get through white stake

[frank grove]

yeah and the princibles of scaling jokers and digging through your deck with lower ranking hands is a good thing to teach new players

[wintry ice]

oh this is perfect

actually brainstorm would be good too

hm

[pale wolf]

hmmm

[rugged bloom]

Why is everyone ignoring me :(

[knotty zodiac]

i know nothing sry

[pale wolf]

idk about bean bug either

[rugged bloom]

I would've preferred a, "Idk how to help you" to being ignored :(

[slow iris]

nobody is obligated to respond

[pale wolf]

you just save scum whenever crimson heart disables ur bean

[frank grove]

i dont really remember how bean bug works fully but if it hits bean you just go to main menu and continue back right?

[rugged bloom]

It's not working

[pale wolf]

how

[rugged bloom]

Something about steamodded disabling the bug or whatever

[wintry ice]

does smods fix it

wh

[frank grove]

yeah i dont trust steammodded at all

[shell dagger]

Send video

[frank grove]

if a mod doesnt work with just lovely it doesnt exist in my eyes

[wintry ice]

more like steamidded right!!!

[pale wolf]

plox

[frank grove]

i know thats right!!

[flint marsh]

negative tag MIGHT JUST BE the goat

[pallid galleon]

high card builds in gold stake 💀

[pallid galleon]

yoo

[ancient gyro]

not the most surprising thing I've seen

[upbeat vine]

If blueprint/brainstorm copies gros micheal then can it destroy itself?

[upbeat vine]

Love that the blueprint is pointing towards the yo

[flint marsh]

true LOL

[flint marsh]

holy 👀

[obsidian quiver]

fr and hanging chad

[sterile nexus]

Died on boss, no scoring jokers

Just blueprint and brainstorm copying eachother

[flint marsh]

😭

[sterile nexus]

Balatro Yuri went too hard

[pallid galleon]

i think i saw a fanart like this once

[flint marsh]

they were flirting

surprisingly enough, i think i've never gotten brainstorm

[sterile nexus]

You might not have it unlocked

[flint marsh]

nor blueprint

[sterile nexus]

You need to discard a Royal Flush

[pulsar geyser]

Do you have it unlocked?

[flint marsh]

ohhh

that's that

[grizzled robin]

run discussion was added for a reason

[tropic summit]

so anyone know how to the issue of my game crashing before i start playing like is there a fix for it?

[flint marsh]

can i unlock them in seeded runs?

i recall not

but idk

[sterile nexus]

You don't need to do that

[pulsar geyser]

It is game discussion so the same thing

[sterile nexus]

Just start a run

[wintry ice]

yeah, ur mom!

[flint marsh]

i mean

[sterile nexus]

And keep discarding and rerolling

[flint marsh]

yeah but like

[grizzled robin]

verify file integrity in steam

[flint marsh]

faster ig

[grizzled robin]

try that

[grizzled robin]

cornball 🤣

[sterile nexus]

It takes like 2-5 resets

To get it

[grizzled robin]

and it wasnt anything even worth showing not gonna lie which is why i spoke in teh first place

[wintry ice]

corn 🌽

[grizzled robin]

anyway u do u chud

[flint marsh]

if only i could level up the first discarded hand of the round someway... 😔

[grizzled robin]

wont argue longe r

[tropic summit]

they're all verified and it still crashes.

[rugged bloom]

Bean bug does not work

[wintry ice]

corn 🌽

[grizzled robin]

i mean try reinstalling, balatro is a small game and you should still have your saves

[echo owl]

How I get better at this game I’m only at 2 gold stake wins

[knotty zodiac]

clown 🤡

[flint marsh]

yes let me just get the WORST joker IN GAME NEGATIVE.

[grizzled robin]

accept photochad as the true ideology of balatro

[flint marsh]

(talking about splash not photo)

[grizzled robin]

then youll win.

[flint marsh]

photochad

everytime i hear that name i cry

[frank grove]

yeah this might be a steammodded thing

[flint marsh]

we've made so many memories tg

🥹

[wintry ice]

atleast splash doesn't make shops worse

[rugged bloom]

Oh well

[tropic summit]

still crashes.

[grizzled robin]

ppl genuinely hate photochad just to be special icl

[echo owl]

I will twin

[flint marsh]

😭

[grizzled robin]

they know its good so they try to be "niche" 😭

son son son

[flint marsh]

for REAL

photochad is js the goat bro

[echo owl]

Why is the 4 fingers kinda hot

[grizzled robin]

what is the message it shows?

[wintry ice]

from being unhelpful to making up fake scenarios to get mad at

[flint marsh]

everyone knows

[echo owl]

Like god damn I would let that hand do things to me

[flint marsh]

✌️

wgat

[tropic summit]

something about gamefile nil

[flint marsh]

no one saw that

[grizzled robin]

pls tell me this is a reference to 7x7=49 😭

[knotty zodiac]

ppl genuinely hate 🍐 just to be special
they know its good so they try to be "niche" 😭

[flint marsh]

AND HM?

[echo owl]

No the card is just sexy

[flint marsh]

AND &

[frank grove]

you know whats funny this isnt even the first time ive seen someone thirst over 4 fingers

[grizzled robin]

well i'd need to see it to try helping so send a sc

[grizzled robin]

ahahahahhaha

[grizzled robin]

fair

exactly bro

[wintry ice]

honestly it's pretty boring when most runs go a very similar way because of it

[grizzled robin]

well do you want to win or do you want it to be interesting cause theyre kinda different things

[wintry ice]

yea

it's just not good that the easiest route to winning is uninteresting

[echo owl]

Who else did it

[flint marsh]

how when what

how in the WORLD did i get 20

[grizzled robin]

i mean i can risk my whole run for fun in comparison to, well not doing that and js winning

[flint marsh]

only ante 3 btw

[wintry ice]

but that still doesn't stop the meta from being stale

[frank grove]

searched it, it was just you from the other day lmao 😭

[grizzled robin]

mmmmmhmmm

[flint marsh]

GOD THATS SO PEAK 😭

[echo owl]

Lmao

[grizzled robin]

its so good to look at

[flint marsh]

drooling over that

[wintry ice]

dying to plant speedrun

[honest jewel]

what do we call this build

[grizzled robin]

is your disk full or something

[honest jewel]

oh that's what we call it

[flint marsh]

we can call it

[wintry ice]

dying to plant speedrun

[frank grove]

photoslop

[tropic summit]

no

[serene forge]

white stake final boss

[flint marsh]

yeah photoslop

[grizzled robin]

i kinda had this same issue except it started up and i lost all my progress in decks except for my jokers

[flint marsh]

or photo n chad

[honest jewel]

I like that

[serene forge]

you deserve it

[grizzled robin]

oh FUCK off very gay lesbian hornet

[flint marsh]

yk what would be funny? GIVING A FLUSH MAIN THE WATER BOSS 😔

[grizzled robin]

😠

[old hearth]

i don't get why i would play pairs it just doesn't seem good

[slow iris]

that would actually be pretty funny

[wintry ice]

wow, what's wrong with being a gay, lesbian and hornet

[grizzled robin]

uhh if you go to balatro files, delete the saved_game data

[flint marsh]

vwould

[grizzled robin]

or smth its called similar

[serene forge]

you're probably underestimating scaling jonklers

[grizzled robin]

and if u do it should delete the current run's data

[serene forge]

and blue seal

[flint marsh]

if it didn't happen

[grizzled robin]

which could be the issue

ok thats on me this chat is too active to speak in split sentences

[wintry ice]

they're the optimal hand for every joker that doesn't care about what hand you play because of their consistency

[knotty zodiac]

then serpent and mouth back to back

[serene forge]

pairs kinda dodge everything negative that a bigger hand has to deal with

[wintry ice]

with the sole exception of obelisk

[flint marsh]

STOP

[serene forge]

you will never die because you fail to draw a pair

[wintry ice]

they're resistant to the mouth and water

[serene forge]

you will die if you don't draw flushes or straights

[flint marsh]

dont manifest my runs 😔

[grizzled robin]

yeah and you can play all eco jokers without having to worry that discards will leave you with no cards to play ur main hand (like straight)

[knotty zodiac]

manifesting 🪄

[pulsar geyser]

I like straight flush builds

😄

[grizzled robin]

since its just a pair u just need 2 cards

[echo owl]

I lost like 40 hours

[grizzled robin]

for scoring

[serene forge]

lesbian flush is funny

[frank grove]

very gay lesbian flush

[wintry ice]

what about ace flush

[flint marsh]

i love getting emperor and fool back to back

[honest jewel]

the most powerful flush of them all

[serene forge]

you mean royal gay flush

[grizzled robin]

im so happy i didnt lose my jokers for some reason

those take the most to unlock

idc about the decks that much tbh

[flint marsh]

FUCK YOU WATER I GOT MY FLUSH FIRST HAND

[grizzled robin]

negative splash looks so cool

[flint marsh]

yeah

if it wasnt because it SUCKS

TELESCOPE 🤤

[grizzled robin]

negative blueprint makes my hole weak

[echo owl]

Honestly same cause some of them I didn’t wanna get back

[grizzled robin]

i mean my whole week **

[old hearth]

genuinely that's what just happened

[flint marsh]

soo what do i choose

[flint marsh]

👀

[pale wolf]

imagine trying to beat r1 with pairs

and then trying to say skipping is.bad somehow

smh smh

[frank grove]

😭

[surreal spruce]

What

[pulsar geyser]

fire pfp

[grizzled robin]

well youre flushslop maxxing so just sigil and pray?

[wintry ice]

hi brooke

[grizzled robin]

or medidum any card for tarots

[flint marsh]

got hearts

[grizzled robin]

ggh

[wintry ice]

probably purple

[ancient gyro]

sup brooklyn

[flint marsh]

and im doing spades

[wintry ice]

no reason to take sigil if your suit is already defined

[flint marsh]

it wasn't

[grizzled robin]

well that run aint going on for much longer

😭

[wintry ice]

didn't you say you had 20 spades

[flint marsh]

do i do it

[grizzled robin]

picking up the jokers that look the prettiest

[flint marsh]

(discarding)

[grizzled robin]

oh yea

[wintry ice]

expecting high level gameplay on white stake

[grizzled robin]

if u wanna unlock the joker

[wintry ice]

🥀

[flint marsh]

sure

[flint marsh]

💔

ok i passed

[grizzled robin]

uhh

[flint marsh]

thank god

[surreal spruce]

Ty sylas

She’s literally me

[surreal spruce]

Not my name Andy

[flint marsh]

how do we tell him

[wintry ice]

what is she from again

[flint marsh]

her* just saw bio

btw IS THAT GREEN YURI I SEE 👀 👀

[surreal spruce]

Yes

[ancient gyro]

that's like her entire personality

[flint marsh]

holy SHIT

[surreal spruce]

Also fire ass pfp and bio yk ball

[flint marsh]

i have vol 1

[surreal spruce]

Based

[slow iris]

here win

[surreal spruce]

Yuri is not my entire personality…. Only like 80% of it

[surreal spruce]

W holy

[flint marsh]

yo bro did u see the new chapters

[ancient gyro]

we havent met in a while, only the elephant topics come to mind

[surreal spruce]

I had NOT READ in a while

I have built up chapters to spam

[flint marsh]

true true

well

since what chapter did u stop

[surreal spruce]

Uhmmmm

I forgor number