🕹・game-discussion

[serene forge]

WDYM NOTHING GOOD

[mental bloom]

Parking is good

[quaint stag]

parking is decent

[patent sail]

you got HORSED

[vivid stump]

im prolly gonna shave the face card stho

[weak berry]

😭

[vivid stump]

eh whatever

[mental bloom]

That's a good start

[serene forge]

you have 10 hand size

parking is crazy money early on

[mental bloom]

Exactly

[quaint stag]

the arm hates to see you coming

[humble gulch]

I oneshoted the finisher blind with A PAIR

[atomic trout]

High Card is superior

[turbid smelt]

My first gold stake win incoming

[fringe nebula]

?????????

[turbid smelt]

Couldn’t believe it

[mental bloom]

Grrrrrrrrrrrr

[floral mural]

free money is good?

[vivid stump]

ig but only early game

[fiery nymph]

yooo pants got my first win too

[floral mural]

theres like actually zero reason not to take an econ joker

in this state

[turbid smelt]

Gold stake isnt even bad

[floral mural]

even if it was like delayed grat

[vivid stump]

lmao business card

[patent sail]

The image 2

[turbid smelt]

It’s just early game can fuck u up

[woven remnant]

God damnit

[serene forge]

wdym only early game

[mental bloom]

Delayed Grat my beloved

[weak berry]

thats what im sayin

[serene forge]

runner

[vivid stump]

i wanna go straights

[heady narwhal]

"here, win"

[mental bloom]

Fr

[vivid stump]

reserved parking & business?

[woven remnant]

grimbo seemed inconvinient

[mental bloom]

Hm nah

Either one or the other

[vivid stump]

arcana then

[mental bloom]

Or keep your money

BUT

[serene forge]

why do you need to arcana with 13 dollars

[floral mural]

i mean its still not losing mult each round with all hands played

[mental bloom]

In arcana pack there can be a Judgement

[fiery nymph]

it honestly depends but yeah, gold stake isnt bad when you make good decisions all the time

[mental bloom]

And I love gambling my jokers

[humble gulch]

I'll try again the seed

[vivid stump]

should i get the chariot cus im not gonna play face cards

[cloud sinew]

why did you open the arcana

[serene forge]

wheel

[vivid stump]

or wheel bc wheel

[mental bloom]

Good idea

[cloud sinew]

you asked and we specifically told you not to

[serene forge]

also I told you not to arcana

[vivid stump]

idk im lowk a dumbass

[serene forge]

lmfao

[vivid stump]

didnt see that

[cloud sinew]

yes

[mental bloom]

Though you'll need planet levels for it to be effective

Which is not the case rn

[vivid stump]

yup

[crisp perch]

Balatro is literally just about luck holy 😭

[serene forge]

chariot is pretty mid in most scenarios

[vivid stump]

ig bro

[cloud sinew]

no it isnt twin

[vivid stump]

wheel it is then

[crisp perch]

I got the foil rocket n it just made me win 💔

[waxen dagger]

is using a score calculator cheating?

[cloud sinew]

balatro is almost entirely skill

[cloud sinew]

no

[mental bloom]

I'd say empress some cards

[serene forge]

inconsistent deck is inconsistent

[waxen dagger]

well yes it is

[crisp perch]

Plasma deck moment

[vivid stump]

bruh

i wheeled and guess what

[floral mural]

roguelikes are mostly luck based if youre not trying to find ways to get consistent

[crisp perch]

Nope!

[mental bloom]

Holo?

[vivid stump]

[cloud sinew]

I've streaked 15x at gold stake, it's not literally just luck

[mental bloom]

Foil?

POLYCHROME

[waxen dagger]

its both skill based and luck based

[humble gulch]

Facts

[serene forge]

skill issue

[vivid stump]

[mental bloom]

Common Wheel L

[crisp perch]

Was it on plasma 🤔

[turbid smelt]

I AM GOING TO FLIP OUT

I MISSED MY FIRST GOLD STAKE

[serene forge]

wheel would've procced if you didn't open arcana with 13 dollar

[turbid smelt]

ANTE 8 BOSS

[cloud sinew]

it was across all decks

[waxen dagger]

its not just luck yah skill also matters

[humble gulch]

Plasma is just a lot harder

[fringe nebula]

well, I guess crimson heart does have some luck factors

[turbid smelt]

I MISSED REQUIRMENT BY ONE

[ancient gyro]

fraternal twin

[waxen dagger]

but luck matters a lot too

[turbid smelt]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[mental bloom]

Dayum

[fiery nymph]

"Gold stake isnt even bad"

LMAO

[mental bloom]

I'd die

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[cloud sinew]

luck makes up for a skill difference, if you're good enough you can win no matter what.

[willow frost]

classic

[crisp perch]

I still gotta do orange n gold on plasma bro 💔

[fringe nebula]

balatro is luck because cavendish can disappear and make you lose a game 🗣️ (very specific i know)

[vivid stump]

yey i lost

[mental bloom]

Knew it

☝🏼

[patent sail]

balatro is luck because you better know that im taking ALL of those negative tags

[cloud sinew]

a bad player might lose 300 games in a row, and the run they win on is a really easy one, that doesn't mean it's just luck; it means that the easier a run is the less likely you are to die to your own mistakes

[humble gulch]

Balatro is all luck because you can die from a meteor impact

[patent sail]

and taking all of that negative ice cream and popcorn

[floral mural]

honestly i have a very hot take but unless youre playing the highest difficulty of a hard roguelike luck realistically doesnt matter if youre willing to try and plan ahead

[mental bloom]

[frank notch]

negative icecream/popcorn is very good on late antes (not in score, but to gold sticker it)

[vivid stump]

im taking all the rare tags

[floral mural]

also refusing to learn new strats in a game about run based gameplay is refusing to improve

[vivid stump]

all of them

[fiery nymph]

every seed is winnable right?

[mental bloom]

HORSE

Makes me remember my wife

[ancient gyro]

has yet to be proven or denied

[vivid stump]

lmao

[crisp perch]

Ye n im talkin bout gold stake

[fringe nebula]

I want to say balatro isn't about luck, but there was one time where i got pants, certificate and constellation at ante 2

[mental bloom]

Hold my horses

[floral mural]

and? that applies to gold stake

[cloud sinew]

that's a conjecture.
all we know is that no seed has been found to be unwinnable

[fiery nymph]

is there a seed so far that hasnt been beaten

[fiery nymph]

okay

[cloud sinew]

not a known seed

[floral mural]

balatro is nowhere near hard enough where just gold stake should need luck to win

[fiery nymph]

so as far as right now every known seed is possible

[frank notch]

rare tags fucking suck

[willow frost]

cryptid stakes now

[vivid stump]

is it possible to beat the tutorial seed

[ancient gyro]

a lot of the skill in runs is knowing when a "good" joker is bad and when a "bad" joker is good.

[waxen dagger]

balatro is luck bc a cosmic ray can strike your computer and remove your chad

[patent sail]

woe, 20 the family upon ye

[mental bloom]

Whatever, go my family

[fiery nymph]

the family is amazing i love that joker

[floral mural]

god i have no motivation to return to balatro yet

[ancient gyro]

same

[willow frost]

wait no guys come back

[ancient gyro]

it's been two days

[floral mural]

havent played in a while

[crisp perch]

Chat do u blind take the buffoon pack on plasma or save for money

[waxen dagger]

yolo

[ancient gyro]

save

[fringe nebula]

this talk again?

Is it with seed knowledge, or is it without seed knowledge

[humble gulch]

This is a bad idea

[waxen dagger]

actually if theres a rly good voucher i take it

[floral mural]

i always take first buffoon back when i played a lot

[mental bloom]

Sending you Driver's Licence rn

[waxen dagger]

otherwise i take a jonkler

[vivid stump]

sqwuare

[willow frost]

take it always unless theres some goated shi in the shop slots

[fringe nebula]

that is fine i think?

[vivid stump]

wait mb

[mental bloom]

NEVERRRR

[vivid stump]

theres a square but the uranus is covering it

[fiery nymph]

probably like how people send doc seeds and he wins them all the time like that knowledge

[frank notch]

"i cast eternal rental hit the road"

[waxen dagger]

i could make a mid joke

[mental bloom]

We (yes, WE) are building towards square joker

[vivid stump]

four finger

trust me bro

[mental bloom]

Yesyesyes

[willow frost]

well dont sit on your screen then

[patent sail]

we ALL love square

[willow frost]

youre welcome

[fringe nebula]

i meant whether it's a blind run or not

[mental bloom]

We (yes, WE) ALL love square

[vocal rose]

but why two pair

[crisp perch]

Ur almost guaranteed to score second round tho cuz its plasma

[fiery nymph]

it would be blind

[ancient gyro]

without seed searching, you will lose on certain decks that will punish you for doing the best logical decision with specific few seeds

[vocal rose]

o its covering

[patent sail]

hes top 1 on my stats lmao

[mental bloom]

Noooo

[fringe nebula]

this

[willow frost]

oh you said plasma

[ancient gyro]

black and plasma for example

[fiery nymph]

i see

[willow frost]

yeah idk man

[frank notch]

Built this run around square joker (and pants)

[fringe nebula]

sometimes you get rewarded for dumb plays

[mental bloom]

Yuno ball

[opal pebble]

Green Deck is always a winner

[fiery nymph]

but none of them are impossible

on a second try

[mental bloom]

Vro might (might) like green deck

[vocal rose]

unoptimal placement....

[vivid stump]

yo

[opal pebble]

I’m not biased at all

[vivid stump]

this is what happens when painted deck

[patent sail]

mega flush

[frank notch]

does it really matter if i won

[ancient gyro]

in terms of white stake it's neither confirmed or denied that an impossible seed exists

[floral mural]

id like to expend. every roguelike has 1 in a thousand seeds where rng destroys you for playing optimally. those fucked up eden seeds on isaac with 1 damage every 5 seconds are proof

[vocal rose]

no

[fiery nymph]

and for gs?

[floral mural]

but theyre 1 in a thousand still

[humble gulch]

Well, it was a bad idea...

[vocal rose]

same thing

[ancient gyro]

localthunk has a bounty for someone finding an impossible seed for 10 grand or whatever for the first person that discovers one on white stake no bugs

[fiery nymph]

okay

[ancient gyro]

they exist

[mental bloom]

Banana

[vivid stump]

save money or arcana

[mental bloom]

Save money

[vocal rose]

cap

[mental bloom]

Or find a Judgement and GAMBLE

[fiery nymph]

😨

[fringe nebula]

nah andy is spitting

[vivid stump]

wheeeeeeellll

[vocal rose]

my gs a8 tierlist is about to spit

[mental bloom]

GRRRR NOOOO

[humble gulch]

Well

[patent sail]

square: grow my chips twin....

[ancient gyro]

there was a black deck seed from months ago in chat I couldn't win at one point

[mental bloom]

"here, win"

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[vocal rose]

zero reason for me to do this

[mental bloom]

Oh YES BABY

[patent sail]

LIGHT EM UP

[fringe nebula]

you need to survive the boss blind, so find +mult ig

[ancient gyro]

i was planning on remaking your list at some point

[mental bloom]

IMMOLATE ALL THE WAY

[serene forge]

you gotta aura because then you can get polychrome !!

and then you can use deaths and

[ancient gyro]

just need some santa helpers

[frank notch]

whats your opinion on dice

[serene forge]

good

[humble gulch]

Lusty

[ancient gyro]

dice is a nice econ enabler

econ/value

[frank notch]

i like dice for lucky cards

and space joker

[serene forge]

spec dice is fun

[vocal rose]

I think the core of it is pretty solid but beyond that if there was like 10+ really good players they'd perfect it

[vivid stump]

BANANA

[patent sail]

dice is a nice GAMBLING enabler

[mental bloom]

BANANA

[serene forge]

here win

[patent sail]

not that i wouldnt gamble without it

gambling all the way

[humble gulch]

We win

[vivid stump]

do i take anything else

[serene forge]

wdym enabler

[mental bloom]

Tho I prefer my gambling with lower probabilities

[serene forge]

it removes gambling

[fringe nebula]

dice removes gambling

[serene forge]

by increasing the odds

[fringe nebula]

true

[vivid stump]

do i take anything other than bana

na

[mental bloom]

The pleasure when hitting that $20 without a dice

[patent sail]

thats so sad can we get 0 likes

[ancient gyro]

I think your upper half is more cohesive than your bottom half last time I checked

[vocal rose]

it is

[ancient gyro]

from the outdated list tbf

[frank notch]

you need 10 dice for every probability to be guaranteedx

[mental bloom]

SAVE MONEY GRRRR

explodes

[humble gulch]

So

[vivid stump]

the banana is too powerful...

[patent sail]

that 1024/7 the wheel

[willow frost]

i got you
flash card A tier
splash C tier
photo F tier
perkeo S tier
to the moon B tier
showman B tier

[vivid stump]

im winning while trying to scale square joker

[mental bloom]

Here, reach ante 12

[vivid stump]

banana too powerful

[vocal rose]

interesting

[patent sail]

showman gets his own fuck you tier

based photo tho

[vivid stump]

FUHHHHH

[patent sail]

FUCK photo

[willow frost]

thank you

[vivid stump]

BANANA DIED NEXT ROUND

[willow frost]

banana D tier

[patent sail]

we (and i mean me) all hate photo

[serene forge]

same

[mental bloom]

Cavendish in buffoon pack trust

[frank notch]

blackboard either a or s tier

[humble gulch]

Bro

[frank notch]

certificate is b or a

[serene forge]

I pissed off reddit earlier by saying phot is mid

[mental bloom]

And then it exctincts

[fringe nebula]

cryptid on blue seal

[split rivet]

banana might be D tier but I still begrudgingly pick it up every single time

[vivid stump]

lmao

[humble gulch]

I know

[ancient gyro]

cause this was when you thought pari was bottom 5ish before knowing that pari can still have benefits while not being hard countered. current meta could care less lok

[frank notch]

banana is early ante carrier

[patent sail]

photo aint even in my top 10 on stats its so mid

[vocal rose]

the eternal smiley is probably what im taking

[heady narwhal]

balala all jokers tier list

joker: C tier

[willow frost]

i mean its a good early joker for sure

[vivid stump]

do i save the interest again

[heady narwhal]

what's wrong with holo dice

[patent sail]

S tier

[mental bloom]

I honestly believe certificate just floods your deck

[serene forge]

banana is usually good

[ancient gyro]

or dice

[patent sail]

perishable?

[serene forge]

the chance of unconditional 3x is too good to pass on

[vocal rose]

im skipping for the investment and if dice wasnt perishable I'd probably take it

[serene forge]

flooding your deck with high quality cards is pretty good

[ancient gyro]

they have a 5 round window

[willow frost]

can we put people's joker tierlists on a tierlist or is that too much information needed

[heady narwhal]

oh i can't see

[split rivet]

lmao i mean you can take on such a task if you so desire

[mental bloom]

I guess

[serene forge]

start with this one

[willow frost]

god no i dont have the time or expertise lol

[heady narwhal]

floods your deck with the highest value cards in the game

[vocal rose]

I do but theres a chance I just dont find a decent enough mult option

[serene forge]

r/balatro tierlist tierlist

[willow frost]

what da heeeeeeeell

[heady narwhal]

you can just build pairs and win

[mental bloom]

What's the worst seal to get out of certificate

[serene forge]

red

[heady narwhal]

red

[vivid stump]

why is bloodstone in a tier

[willow frost]

this could be good actually

[mental bloom]

Yeah

[frank notch]

red

[vocal rose]

smiley and blue joker can keep me good for like 2 antes whilst im spamming telescope pair

[split rivet]

im feeling a strong C

[mental bloom]

Fair

[frank notch]

gold is 3rd, purple is 2nd

[willow frost]

what was the blue 8 ball again

[vocal rose]

oh GOD

[vivid stump]

this is mid

[vocal rose]

this is old

[karmic junco]

NA

[vivid stump]

why is bloodstone in a tier

[willow frost]

thank you janthony fantjimbo

[humble gulch]

Blue is the best seal

[vivid stump]

do i space joker

[mental bloom]

bludstone

[heady narwhal]

F tier tier list because it's using the 1.0.0 joker sprites despite clearly being from 1.0.1 (yorick s tier)

[fiery nymph]

is this from reddit

[fringe nebula]

you shall witness this beautiful masterpiece

[humble gulch]

I'm winning with pure raw power

[mental bloom]

Won't vro get reworked next update tho

[heady narwhal]

also some demo joker sprites and hologram has the undiscovered background

[mental bloom]

Will it still be as good

[split rivet]

janthony fantjimbo, balatro, jonklers - forever

[heady narwhal]

it's the world's worst template

[vocal rose]

okay

[vivid stump]

fuh you mean dna is up there

[humble gulch]

Blue stake is the one geting reworked

[mental bloom]

Pairmaxxing at its finest :

[woven remnant]

I am too embarrased to show the result but invisible copied my grimbo and I took negative tag with double tags

[patent sail]

why the fuck are there TWO 8 balls

[mental bloom]

Ah

Why so blue

[fringe nebula]

(it's a bait post on reddit)

[heady narwhal]

throwback is better than hiker imo

maybe this is a bad take

[vivid stump]

do i space joker

[fringe nebula]

probably

[patent sail]

why is one of them blue, for an amazing reason i hope?

[willow frost]

whats wrong with 3oak mult joker

[heady narwhal]

you have space for space joker (and money)

[vocal rose]

that shit so ass

[willow frost]

what lmao

[mental bloom]

Blue balls

[fringe nebula]

bad

[heady narwhal]

if you can play 3oak consistently then +12 mult isn't gonna do anything

[willow frost]

its +12 isnt it

[mental bloom]

True...

[vocal rose]

throwback is at max getting 1.5x in VERY rare occasions

[willow frost]

its pretty good for early game

[vocal rose]

1.25x in rare occasions

[patent sail]

get custard emojied

[heady narwhal]

hiker is at max giving you, like, 30 chips

[fringe nebula]

assuming you can even draw 3oak at earlygame

[heady narwhal]

on ante 8 only

[vocal rose]

you can very easily bottom deck earlygame

[mental bloom]

DARN

[heady narwhal]

it works best with a handtype where chips are a non-issue

[willow frost]

its a tier lower than the other page ones fsr

[heady narwhal]

throwback can occasionally save your losing run if you need it to, hiker is winmore

[mental bloom]

Hello, I love Gift Card, goodbye

[humble gulch]

You know...

[willow frost]

its a safety net, youre not necessarily looking for it

[ancient gyro]

hiker benefits are from not taking up a joker slot long term

[mental bloom]

Oh yes

[willow frost]

same

[woven remnant]

I feel dirty.

[willow frost]

that you are

[vocal rose]

and for the point its actually going to bring you value (early game) it does it horribly

[ancient gyro]

the safety net being locked to one specific hand type

[mental bloom]

"want a joker? I gotcha" ahh build

[vocal rose]

since 3oak is difficult to pull on an unfixed deck

[ancient gyro]

harder than flushes and straights

[woven remnant]

only 3 of them contributes to scoring

[meager edge]

can someone please explain the joker "supernova"

[vivid stump]

pick a joker, any joker

[patent sail]

whys your build just stuff

[mental bloom]

Damn

Temperance value then I guess 😋😋🤤

[fringe nebula]

you play pair once, you get +1 mult

you play pair 50 times, you get +50 mult

[vivid stump]

adds mult based on how many times you played that hand

[heady narwhal]

it gives +10 mult on your 10th pair this run, +15 mult on your 15th flush this run, wtc etc

[mental bloom]

"a little bit of this a little bit of that" ahh build

[woven remnant]

I started with eternal grimbo
then yorick and runner show up
then anaglyph deck

[heady narwhal]

you can check how many times you've played each hand in run info

[vivid stump]

BANANA

[vocal rose]

hmmmmmm

[mental bloom]

Oh YES BABY

[quaint stag]

joker gains mult depending on how many times you've played that hand

best with hands like pair/high card/any thing you can consistently play to scale

[mental bloom]

Watch it break instantly

[vocal rose]

this is really weird

cant scale supernova as easily since im always getting mercuries

[willow frost]

why are almost all of these random +mult lmao

[vivid stump]

do i buy a devil

[meager edge]

would you say its rather good or nah?
Cause its sound pretty underwhelming

[vocal rose]

yes

[ancient gyro]

the safety net being the second most infrequent highest poker hand after 2 discards

[vocal rose]

money neutral

[vivid stump]

good

[mental bloom]

"Early head is something that we want to pay attention to"

   -  Roffle

[meager edge]

hmm okay

[fringe nebula]

good, but not the best

[meager edge]

alright ty :)

[quaint stag]

supernova is great imo

[vocal rose]

😭

[vocal rose]

its amazing

[woven remnant]

see the pair of grimbos? they were +4 mult

[heady narwhal]

it's alright i guess. the other per hand +mults (bus, green joker, trousers) are a lot more consistent and less vulnerable to boss blinds

[patent sail]

the sun tarot:

[willow frost]

how is it less likely than 4oak

[quaint stag]

again with larger hands that win in one hand you wont see as much value but its still great

[vivid stump]

should i get standard pack and hope for blue seal

[willow frost]

what

[heady narwhal]

with supernova you tend to score too many points and can't scale it with all 4 of your hands

[mental bloom]

Never early

[quaint stag]

whats the other option in the shop

[willow frost]

this is goated

[mental bloom]

Not unless you have a solid econ

[patent sail]

pretty damn good actually

[vivid stump]

i bought the banana

[mental bloom]

Take devil yeah

[vivid stump]

i got devil'

[quaint stag]

wouldnt hurt to take devil and rip standard pack

[heady narwhal]

you have money for the pack

[quaint stag]

tarot might be a decent rip

[vivid stump]

ill be at 23 dollars

[patent sail]

keep that banana away from spaceman, he looks hungry

[serene forge]

people that take 4 bloodstones probably won't know shit about deckfixing

[heady narwhal]

devil

[vivid stump]

oh yea

[heady narwhal]

you get $3 from the gold card you create

[vivid stump]

taking the standard

[quaint stag]

yeah thats fine you're still gonna earn it back with interest and devil

[mental bloom]

Most common Devil W

[vivid stump]

dammmmmm

[woven remnant]

any other jokers you feel hate that is closest to blood stone?

[vivid stump]

absolutely nothing good

[heady narwhal]

gold seal is alright

[mental bloom]

Ah yes air premium

[fringe nebula]

showman

[heady narwhal]

no reason not to take it

[quaint stag]

gold seal is better then nothing

[patent sail]

flower pot

[vocal rose]

ohhhhhhh

[vivid stump]

guess what

[quaint stag]

its wee joker time

[frank notch]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[quaint stag]

mods orbital nuke them

[patent sail]

mail in rebate hits

[woven remnant]

mouse trap that has naneinf on it

[mental bloom]

Yeah no bro square is in last position how is this good

[heady narwhal]

no

[frank notch]

its not in order

[fringe nebula]

no

[mental bloom]

Damn what happened

[plush bone]

any tips on how to finish my naneinf attempts? i get to like e50-70 and cant close it out

[mental bloom]

I didn't even see

[serene forge]

baron

[patent sail]

that one joker is in the wrong tier

[vocal rose]

context hat

[mental bloom]

But it's in worse

[vivid stump]

bro the banana is too strong

[quaint stag]

whats this tierlist based on? just if jokers are good or bad or if its an option between two jokers

[woven remnant]

That one I 100% agree

[quaint stag]

scam link

[frank notch]

i had to make an even split

[vivid stump]

i won before scaling the square

[fringe nebula]

campfire being that low is 🗿

[humble gulch]

Hmmm, this is a hard choice

[mental bloom]

Ah

[fringe nebula]

red card too

[heady narwhal]

squoker is significantly better than the median joker

[patent sail]

showman showing more men

[mental bloom]

Grrrrr

[heady narwhal]

so is red card

[vivid stump]

econ or nah

[plush bone]

i get stuff like htis and dont know what to do from here

[frank notch]

i swear i didnt put red card in worse

[serene forge]

yes

[woven remnant]

you want some ice cream?

[plush bone]

also mb i was on ipad that day LOL

[serene forge]

you should change the orientation for one

[humble gulch]

Only a spoonful

[plush bone]

mb broooooo

[heady narwhal]

sell showman for showman then sell showman for showman

[willow frost]

well you get antimatter and an ectoplasm

[serene forge]

qwerry wdym you put sucking buskin in better

[quaint stag]

trio being in worse is wild

trio is great imo

[ancient gyro]

yeah it decent

[mental bloom]

True

[frank notch]

i never play any build other than pairs

[stark charm]

I love this voucher

[woven remnant]

its cool on painted

[serene forge]

swash in better???

[vocal rose]

you need antimatter an ecto (preferrably on a copy joker) palette retcon 4 copy jokers, DNA to survive ante 24, and enough money to roll for burglar on ante 26+

[humble gulch]

Hmm, I think I can beat it

[serene forge]

pareidolia????????

[mental bloom]

Baltaro players :

[frank notch]

its "decent" mult

[stark charm]

Worst is the tribe I think

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[serene forge]

dude you put fucking dagger in worse

[willow frost]

then you get about 60 more cards in your deck, then you find burglar, copy it four times into a serpent, make sure all your cards in hand are red seal steel kings and naneinf

[stark charm]

(who even play flush)

[serene forge]

wdym dagger is worse than swash 😭

[quaint stag]

tribe is terrible its still x mult but 2x for a 5 card hand is butt

[woven remnant]

yeah

[frank notch]

i never use dagger

[heady narwhal]

you should

[plush bone]

alr lets see if i can do it. i had these conditions last night but didnt hit the reroll voucher and died to plant on like ante 14

[serene forge]

YOU PUT SHOOT THE MOON IN WORSE WHAT

[frank notch]

and id assume id be stupid and accidentally destroy blueprint or something

[serene forge]

CHAOS IN WORSE

MY EYES

[quaint stag]

also idk who said it earlier but campfire in worse

[woven remnant]

-1 less joker slot for far better scale mult

[heady narwhal]

unforgivable

[patent sail]

dagger is good because it can kill flower pot which swashbuckler cant do

[quaint stag]

hop off campgoat

[stark charm]

Dagger is really good scaling if you got econ

[heady narwhal]

stm is the #1 most fun joker in the game imo

[serene forge]

order in worse

faceless in worse

[mental bloom]

Which one is chaos

[ancient gyro]

is this the most recent version

[heady narwhal]

(and like the #60 best probably)

[vocal rose]

yes

[serene forge]

c9 in worse

this list sucks i'm sorry

[stark charm]

Campfire is not that great but there is something like... Hit the road

[quaint stag]

true! although campfire is really fun and so is hit the roadf

[humble gulch]

Ragebaiting C++ players is so easy, you just need to suck

[frank notch]

i only have room for 75 jokers in better

[ancient gyro]

most dynamic 👅

[mental bloom]

Cloud 9 so goated

[fringe nebula]

i love stm

[woven remnant]

dagger cuz it kills baseball card which holds the build together cuz I suck at game

[quaint stag]

"man if only i had gold joker that could scale"

the glorious cloud 9:

[heady narwhal]

you had room for swash in better

[patent sail]

gem take alert

[mental bloom]

Never heard anything truer

[slow iris]

[mental bloom]

Rocket also scales

[serene forge]

you can very easily remove parei banner seltzer swash suck dusk and invis

probably more

[quaint stag]

rocket is so goated

[fringe nebula]

for me, stm and perkeo are 2 of the most fun jokers to use on 8 ante runs

[mental bloom]

True, early it's soooo good

[heady narwhal]

i love seltzer .....

probably worse than #75 though

[vocal rose]

lovely

[woven remnant]

I like delayed gratification

[serene forge]

here win

[mental bloom]

Me too

[humble gulch]

(Nebula)

[quaint stag]

peak

[mental bloom]

Oh yeah Sat also scales but it has a limit

[vocal rose]

nebula is so good

[mental bloom]

9$

12$ if you're a crackhead

[vivid stump]

pairslop econ

[frank notch]

not a fan of stm me personally, i never pick it up

[serene forge]

why did they have to make nebula dec so poopy and bad

[heady narwhal]

you should

[mental bloom]

Stm+ mime goes hard tho

[woven remnant]

is nebula worse than black

[heady narwhal]

it's really fun and it can solve both early and lategame +mult

[woven remnant]

merry andy

[frank notch]

a lot of other jokers are better at +mult

[quaint stag]

after gracing us with the beautiful decks that are yellow and ghost thunk had to curse us with one ass deck

[fringe nebula]

what if you're forced to take stm to survive earlygame

[humble gulch]

Balatro but you lose valuable space in exchange of seeing high card on every celestial pack

[heady narwhal]

a lot of jokers are better early game, and a lot of jokers are better late game, but stm can do both pretty decently

[frank notch]

id reset

[vocal rose]

hmmmmmmm

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[vocal rose]

I think im taking this

100%

[heady narwhal]

which gives it a cool niche

[humble gulch]

???????

[fringe nebula]

🗿

[frank notch]

i reset most of my runs tbh

[serene forge]

noob

[stark charm]

Why the fuck did you even take that

[frank notch]

either because nothing in first shop is good or i cant win in the first small blind hand

[ancient gyro]

take what

[humble gulch]

Why not? 🔥

[heady narwhal]

lmao

[fringe nebula]

winning ante 1 small blind with 2 hands is fine

[woven remnant]

why dragging it for longer

[frank notch]

but id lose one dollar

[mental bloom]

gold stickering the dagger when it's at 0 mult is insane

[quaint stag]

is this server's equivilant of the emoji

[vocal rose]

im liking this run so far

[stark charm]

I wanna play painted deck without extra hand size

[fringe nebula]

it's not that detrimental to the point of making you lose the game

[heady narwhal]

if they already had the egg than it's maybe nice to have in an emergency

[humble gulch]

A dollar that doesn't matter 98% of runs

[heady narwhal]

minor spelling mistake

[frank notch]

id want to be at the best possible state

[slow iris]

i guess

[vocal rose]

no screenshot moment

[ancient gyro]

nah I just forgot to move it lol

it was unstickered so forgetting it was the better move

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[heady narwhal]

lmao

[vivid stump]

what is ur opinion on worst scaling mult

[woven remnant]

I see someone get scolded because they played two pairs instead of pair

[quaint stag]

bloodstone is just shitty ancient joker

always glaze ancient joker

[heady narwhal]

it's between bootstraps and fortune teller

[vivid stump]

its still the best gemstone

[ancient gyro]

as for why dagger was at 0 I couldn't use it prior to r23

[fringe nebula]

seeing how you can recover from a bad start is a part of balatro

[heady narwhal]

and swash if you're pedantic but i don't think it counts

[woven remnant]

I like both of them....

[mental bloom]

Oooooh Cloud 9 boutta go crazyyyy

[vocal rose]

bootstraps is shit

[frank notch]

i can just avoid that part tho

[vocal rose]

fortune teller?

[ancient gyro]

bootystraps

[vivid stump]

what about rtb

[vivid stump]

least consistent

[vocal rose]

thats one of the best lmao

[lunar fjord]

rtb is really good

[heady narwhal]

that's a contender for the best one

[quaint stag]

rtb is goated

[lunar fjord]

its like grimbo

[ancient gyro]

ft isn't the greatest but it fills the retroactive scaler niche pretty well

[lunar fjord]

but a bit better?

[heady narwhal]

well not really, best is pretty definitively red card

[humble gulch]

"I find fun on not playing the game"

[quaint stag]

the best scaling plus mult is either red card or pants

[vocal rose]

pants

those two

[frank notch]

i just play for c++ now tbh

[vivid stump]

im too dumb and i keep forgetting to not play face cards

[heady narwhal]

or that. imo pants suffers a lot from overscoring

[fringe nebula]

by resetting (which is kinda boring way to play, and always having a good start will not make you improve at balatro)

[vivid stump]

so does square

[quaint stag]

if you can get econ online red card can scale really fast

[heady narwhal]

but it's still very fast

[mental bloom]

Wait 11 9s you said?

Oh no

:(

[heady narwhal]

square is a crisps joker

[woven remnant]

I really dont get red card so pants for me

[fringe nebula]

you do you honestly

[frank notch]

idc about improving im just playing to win

[vivid stump]

whats wrong with 11 9s

[mental bloom]

true pro mentality

[humble gulch]

Saturn scaling without the chips

[mental bloom]

:((

[vivid stump]

oh

[fringe nebula]

so am i

winning without resetting i mean

🐴

[ancient gyro]

better to have something you don't need than need something you don't have

[waxen dagger]

9 aces

[quaint stag]

the biggest strength of red card over pants is that with good econ that's a guaranteed +6 every shop

[vivid stump]

ues

yes

i cant type

[mental bloom]

ok balatro time gang

[heady narwhal]

well i mean if you overscore too much then you need something you don't have on vv later

[quaint stag]

also for the mega versions of each pack you can take 1 reward and then skip to get red card scaling

[vivid stump]

buildings not tall enough

[calm sapphire]

h

[vocal rose]

awkward time to get palette

[mental bloom]

h

[calm sapphire]

i

[ancient gyro]

i don't think there's that many scenarios where I'll be concerned about something that hypercritical in the moment

[mental bloom]

hiiii

[vivid stump]

when the plane crashed no

[calm sapphire]

hello

[mental bloom]

Okay gang today we (I) will be playing Painted deck blue stake

[vivid stump]

pallete?

[mental bloom]

Helloooo

[vocal rose]

+2 handsize

[woven remnant]

I used to think it was useless because it is a worse reroll joker since with good econ you can scale reroll to the moon

I dont think like that anymore but I still struggle to win a run with it when I commit to it

[calm sapphire]

also hate idol

[vivid stump]

im playing painted deck white stake

[mental bloom]

W

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[calm sapphire]

bottom 1 joker in the game

[humble gulch]

C++ is calling

[nova mantle]

Would y'all pick astronomer here? Bus doesn't have any mult

[serene forge]

showman

[mental bloom]

@quaint stag

[vocal rose]

okay this game is boring

[serene forge]

i wouldnt

[vocal rose]

no more

[calm sapphire]

at least hes cool

[humble gulch]

Probably not as a first joker

[mental bloom]

im FAR away from it

[serene forge]

its bad

[vocal rose]

id take it

100%

[nova mantle]

Aight

[calm sapphire]

and photochad op idk

[vocal rose]

you're on painted

[mental bloom]

I see

[vocal rose]

you can survive early

[woven remnant]

mouse trap with naneinf on it

[humble gulch]

That's why

[mental bloom]

Lets see whats in the buffoon pack then

[quaint stag]

gg

[vocal rose]

NO

dont do that

take holo please

[serene forge]

credit card

[mental bloom]

ok ok

[vocal rose]

you can survive early game

[serene forge]

go ahead

[mental bloom]

im taking holo

[humble gulch]

[vocal rose]

you're on one of the decks that can risk that pickup

[serene forge]

if you say red card i'm actually going to kill you

[quaint stag]

hologram is so goated

[calm sapphire]

at least showman is useful for endless right

[ancient gyro]

no you cant

[serene forge]

whats endless

[ancient gyro]

what's endless

[woven remnant]

or hand specific commons

[mental bloom]

standard pack this early?

should I just shove my deck with everythig I can find

[humble gulch]

Swash

[quaint stag]

would go as far to say that it's probably the best scaling x mult below yorick/canio

[serene forge]

probably swash

[mental bloom]

alr

oh well

[mental bloom]

ante 2 small blind beaten

[vivid stump]

i dream of getting hologram perkeo cryptid

[serene forge]

noob

[humble gulch]

I'd save money or open celestial

[mental bloom]

I'll save money

Mark is coming

Idc

[vivid stump]

moneyyyy

[quaint stag]

hologram is so good because theres multiple ways to get cards per ante either by shop cards or playing card vouchers or jokers like certificate and stone joker

you can get like 1.25x per ante on a bad day

[vivid stump]

u mean marble joker?

[quaint stag]

yeah

[woven remnant]

wow

[serene forge]

i read obelisk and stopped reading

wow you suck

[humble gulch]

Pair slop 🔥 🔥 🔥

[woven remnant]

every single one of them is good

[mental bloom]

fr help

[peak crest]

do i take the invis here?

[vivid stump]

is hologram the only time magic trick is useful

[serene forge]

the only actual bad card you named was wily joker

[humble gulch]

Yes

[lunar fjord]

prolly

[serene forge]

in ante 8 yea

[humble gulch]

Obelisk is so good

[quaint stag]

unironically yes

[serene forge]

no

[quaint stag]

but it's a damn good one time thing

[mental bloom]

do i take ramen

[fringe nebula]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[fiery nymph]

i really hope this is a list of amazing jokers

if it isnt dont tell me

[humble gulch]

Probably

I'd do it

[woven remnant]

what do you play honestly

[willow frost]

that was 14 lmao

[humble gulch]

I love ramen

[mental bloom]

😭

vro just got nuked

[mental bloom]

as a joker yeah

as a food too

[quaint stag]

they got curious george in the reactions

[woven remnant]

I can tell

[vivid stump]

holy shi

[serene forge]

go have a date with your couch or something idk balatro is clearly not the game for you

[humble gulch]

I don't like ramen as a food that much

[willow frost]

i dont think hes actually j d vance

[fiery nymph]

this has GOT to be bait

[fringe nebula]

wait hold on why is golden joker there LMAO

[mental bloom]

i see

[serene forge]

stupid question

what kind of question even is that

[quaint stag]

random sneak

chicot also there for whatever reason

[serene forge]

yea obv not

the real jd vance looks even sillier

[willow frost]

you can survive jokerless from ante 1 to 10

[mental bloom]

okay I won bye

[vivid stump]

i just noticed you put spare trousers and grimbo 🤢

[fringe nebula]

there are 3 kinds of jokers in balatro:
-earlygame carry
-econ
-lategame carry

[willow frost]

lmao

[humble gulch]

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Jolly is great because you breeze through the early game

[mental bloom]

ho ho ho

[serene forge]

jd vance should stream balatro like alexandria ocasio cortez streamed amongus

[quaint stag]

any bad balatro take starts with "chicot is a terrible joker"

worst legendary maybe but thats only because every other legendary is op and chicot is no different but people look down on carrying a utility joker for whatever reason

[humble gulch]

🔥

[fringe nebula]

also, jolly joker is quite cheap

[humble gulch]

Juggler is good too

[serene forge]

checkard

[quaint stag]

bait used to be believable

[willow frost]

checkard lmfao

[fringe nebula]

paying $4 to survive earlygame is very worth it

[mental bloom]

i guess i'll focus on two pairs since i got square jokers

[humble gulch]

????

[fringe nebula]

wrong

[serene forge]

*pair

[humble gulch]

You only need three joker to win

[fiery nymph]

worst legendary is trib

[peak crest]

oh ante 12 is coming up i can’t take it because im not gonna beat ante 12 small blind 😭

[humble gulch]

Yes

[mental bloom]

I could too

[serene forge]

oh its painted

yeah maybe two pair

idk

[fiery nymph]

hi out

[mental bloom]

holy drunkard

[fiery nymph]

hru

[mental bloom]

tho its stupid with ramen

[willow frost]

thats wise

[humble gulch]

I think you meant to say htr

BAHAHAH

Hi, Swiss

[serene forge]

brush costs more than 4 dollars

[serene forge]

i love hrt

[mental bloom]

me too

[fiery nymph]

😭

[quaint stag]

in late game yeah trib is bad but it's great in ante 1-10

[woven remnant]

campfire obelisk and baseball are more than decent scale mults
gold joker is decent econ
green joker, trousers are one of the best and the most consistent way to scale your mult
turtle bean and troubador is good for held in hand or 5 card builds
mad jolly sly willy and joker are good for surviving early antes
and chicot is good

[fiery nymph]

endless doesnt exist

and i would say its the opposite

[fringe nebula]

yeah I'm not dealing with this

[quaint stag]

? why

[vivid stump]

why does mo only have good opinions

[fiery nymph]

trib uses high planet levels and dies to bosses

[fringe nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/694849009411555379.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[serene forge]

your econ sucks

that's the reason

[mental bloom]

should i take splash for a little bit more chips

[fringe nebula]

wrong

[woven remnant]

you wont survive green stake man

[patent sail]

2/10 bait 🐎

[ancient gyro]

what

[quaint stag]

balatro fans when they're required to think ahead

[humble gulch]

Square is all you need

[mental bloom]

campfire slander will not be tolerated in my presence btw

[mental bloom]

true

[vivid stump]

campfire is goated

[mental bloom]

oh wait yea im stupid i have 4 joker slots

[fringe nebula]

anyone with some experience on gold stake knows how good campfire can be

[mental bloom]

buhhhh

[humble gulch]

Campfire is so good

[vivid stump]

i have 30 hours in this game

[woven remnant]

even though I couldnt use it

[mental bloom]

exactly

[vivid stump]

why

[fiery nymph]

to be fair it does get stronger in gs, but its a good joker overall

[mental bloom]

:3

[serene forge]

they hate thinking ahead so much that sometimes they refuse to let themselves think ahead

[quaint stag]

campfire is great but you'll need to plan ahead to get value out of it

[woven remnant]

bad timing, management or luck

I know its good

[ancient gyro]

stronger with an asterisk, it has more options in gs

[vivid stump]

eternal misprint 😭

[quaint stag]

oof

[serene forge]

play a real deck

[vivid stump]

mo only has good opinions

[quaint stag]

i once saw someone take an eternal rental chaos

[serene forge]

that's not bad at all

[mental bloom]

Okay my bad

[fringe nebula]

not even pair?

[mental bloom]

Cries in the corner

[quaint stag]

i guess so

[humble gulch]

If you're gambling you're actually playing wrong...

[fringe nebula]

or 3oak and straight?

[ancient gyro]

baby's first words

[serene forge]

googoo gaga

[woven remnant]

I can see how that makes sense to you

[mental bloom]

Flush slop atp

[quaint stag]

colourblind babies being asked what their favourite colours are

[humble gulch]

I didn't mean it like that...

[vivid stump]

play cloverpit instead

[quaint stag]

car thieves:

[mental bloom]

GRRR STUPID PSYCHIC

[serene forge]

me when my job is to slash people's tires:

[humble gulch]

-16 chips

[mental bloom]

fr

Ok I won

[vivid stump]

does ur hologram have any mult

[quaint stag]

does the psychic affect any jokers that aren't halfsies or square

[humble gulch]

No because I'm not playing

[serene forge]

baron

[woven remnant]

breaking n entering a store house full of cheese

[quaint stag]

other then that it's literally the freest win

[quaint stag]

ah yeah forgot about that

[vivid stump]

spare trousers

[ancient gyro]

rtb/matador/obbylicks

[quaint stag]

you can still play two pair/fullhouse

[vivid stump]

oh yea

mb

[quaint stag]

you can just play a dud card with it

[vivid stump]

yea

[woven remnant]

dna?

maybe?

[mental bloom]

standard pack? holo is at 1.25x

[fringe nebula]

yes

open standard pack

[mental bloom]

I might die next round btw

[quaint stag]

i mean if you're carrying a dna you're probably fine for scoring and can lose the one hand

[quaint stag]

rip the standard pack

[serene forge]

d/n/a

[mental bloom]

holy pull

[woven remnant]

its more of a temporary clog more than a run killer

[humble gulch]

We go stone joker

[vivid stump]

take the wild

[quaint stag]

i beat yellow deck with dna hologram earlier today lol

[mental bloom]

IM TAKING THE 4 WILD

HAHAHAHAHH

no I won't

[ancient gyro]

allegedly

[humble gulch]

I love marble hologram

[mental bloom]

I could

[willow frost]

my favourite song in all of pjsk holy

[humble gulch]

I love stone joker too

[mental bloom]

SAME

DUDE I'M LITERALLY MIZUKI

[vivid stump]

bro i havent gotten hologram in like forever

[mental bloom]

RAAAH I LOVE NIGHTCORD AT 25 AM

[willow frost]

lets fucking GOOOOO

[silent shard]

Fah bro how do i mfs get good endless runs

[silent shard]

I was cooking but lost at ante 11

[mental bloom]

I kinda love all of their songs

[humble gulch]

I don't like nightcore...

[fringe nebula]

by having money and getting lucky vouchers

[mental bloom]

My fav is The Light That Dwells Here

Oh God I'm crying

[quaint stag]

oh yeah that brings me to the other neat thing about hologram

you can just destroy the cards you buy immediately afterwards with hanged

[mental bloom]

EVERYTIME

[fringe nebula]

why are you asking that anyway

[woven remnant]

probably someone currently here has 400 plus hours

[fringe nebula]

give me that seed

I'll beat it

[slow iris]

i have around 620 hours, i guess

[humble gulch]

I bet you is this one

[silent shard]

I watched some guided so i started shaping my deck early and pivoted towards xmults but still the jump was way too sudden from ante 10 to 11

[mental bloom]

Now I need to add you since you play pjsk

[vivid stump]

thats like quintiple quadruple mine

[mental bloom]

You won't escape me

[willow frost]

yeah i like more of theirs than any other group (apart from maybe virtual singer but thats just mostly the leftover songs it dont count lol)

[quaint stag]

i could give it a shot

[fringe nebula]

and you made me lose interest

runs past ante 8 don't exist

[crisp perch]

So for plasma u need 1,800 total score 🤔

[mental bloom]

Now we got a true goat

[fringe nebula]

sure