🕹・game-discussion

[woven remnant]

this run made me see the value of splash

not to mention foil cards

foils in general

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[woven remnant]

with or without oops

[serene forge]

yes

[woven remnant]

word

[meager edge]

what is the progression of the game? I play trough all different decks right?

[woven remnant]

pretty much

[meager edge]

okii ty
It's hard, I only finished 1 deck until now

[fiery nymph]

i have to use it more

[candid niche]

amazing ante 1 with easy 5oak + two Investment tags + a nothingburger boss blind

and i have the joker who sold the world

[waxen dagger]

can boss blinds repeat in the same run?

[candid niche]

ah yes. a lucky card run

...bro

[viral raft]

the humble Sort Hand Suit option:

[idle kernel]

favorite deck to play?

[viral raft]

i like Abandoned

but i think Yellow is the best deck overall

[candid niche]

its fine, i got 5oak blindly

[viral raft]

nice

tip: don't play 5oak, is better to rush flush 5

[candid niche]

i already have 5 levels in it

and telescope

i should be fine

this is also on red stake

its just an ante 8 run

[viral raft]

oh that's nice

i'm just saying for future runs

5oak is not good tbh

[candid niche]

will he survive

also who dies for cavendish?

const is at a whopping 1x

[long zodiac]

Purple Stake is done, i misclicked taking the throwback but i still won

[viral raft]

obviusly

is 1/250 chance

like the chances of that are still low

[candid niche]

i just need lucky cards now

[long zodiac]

it would be very funny to see if you could still hit all nopes on WoF with that build

[viral raft]

try to block tarots for now

[candid niche]

...i just bought tarot merchant

[meager edge]

How do you get the joker symbols?

the info beneath them

[unreal iron]

mod

[viral raft]

i mean that's better

block tarots and you will easily get the thingy

[meager edge]

ahh oke
Didn't know there were any lol

[candid niche]

ohhh you meant block

i see

my god.

[unreal iron]

theres a whole different channel just for modding

[viral raft]

jackpot

[unreal iron]

have you never seen cryptid gameplay at all?

dont

[humble gulch]

Pair maxxing

[unreal iron]

gg

[candid niche]

does chad or face die?

[humble gulch]

Chad

[unreal iron]

how much are you scoring

[viral raft]

yeah, buy some tarots so you can have more chances of magi

[unreal iron]

chad probably dies

[viral raft]

face?

[candid niche]

not really sure

[humble gulch]

Smiley face

[viral raft]

yeah

[unreal iron]

at best chad is like another +10 mult

unless econ?

[viral raft]

the ? is to maybe to sell

not what the hell is face

imo Smiley face

[unreal iron]

its either chad or face

[candid niche]

so i play pairs now?

[unreal iron]

but really it depends

[candid niche]

i sold chad guys

[brittle umbra]

How's my deck ?

[viral raft]

yeaaah

[unreal iron]

well you gotta know how much you score

[candid niche]

cool

[unreal iron]

but yeah

[humble gulch]

I don't know what's a face neither, no need to be embarassed ❤️‍🩹

[viral raft]

this is just photochad with 2 random jokers

[unreal iron]

one of the decks of all time

[candid niche]

well my 5oak is level 5 with extra mult from face

pair is at level 3 from random planets

[viral raft]

yeah it happens 😭

[candid niche]

i'm easily defeating ante 4 in one hand with 5oak

pairs it is

[serene forge]

mid

[candid niche]

....uh.

[humble gulch]

I'm not in a vagabond mood

[candid niche]

do i sack face for baron?

[humble gulch]

This on the other hand

[meager edge]

woah I just noticed

[marsh tartan]

flush five black deck blue stake run ended on ante 7

the plant is always there to make sure I cant have anything

I actually hate black deck

[candid niche]

i sell spoker for crimson heart, yes?

[marsh tartan]

genuinely spent over an hour straight just losing on black deck blue stake

[marsh tartan]

yeah or either your non poly oops all 6s unless you're running lucky cards

[candid niche]

i am in fact running lucky cards

[marsh tartan]

then spoker

[candid niche]

boring monogamous oops vs chad poly oops

oh wait, its the wrong boss!

i get to keep all of them!

:D

[marsh tartan]

polygamy lowk weird af

[marsh tartan]

I didn't see that holy i cant read

[candid niche]

i wonder if i win this

what a seed

i'm taking this run endless for funzies

[humble gulch]

I-

[candid niche]

at what point does space joker become not worth?

or i guess at what point does planet scaling become obsolete

for pair specifically

[lunar fjord]

i would say like lvl 20 or smt

[candid niche]

my pair is level 23 already

[humble gulch]

Like level 20

[candid niche]

so i should sack spoker now

i just found a juggler, so that's baron value

(i also have Telescope so i can get more planets)

[humble gulch]

Me when early econ

[waxen dagger]

okay, maybe this is it

[candid niche]

yup.

[waxen dagger]

i dont think this is worth it, hand size is essential too

[candid niche]

"i'm still standing" ahh cavendish

[marsh tartan]

black deck was hand crafted by satan

[lunar fjord]

hows ur deck fixing?

[lunar fjord]

uhh

[brittle umbra]

How do I win this

[candid niche]

good news: both oops! are now in a polycule with Magician

[lunar fjord]

u prolly dont take it

[waxen dagger]

yeah i thot so']

[lunar fjord]

get more deaths/ cryptids and then u can probably take it

[waxen dagger]

hex is a fucking death trap

[lunar fjord]

cuz u score enough

[long zodiac]

Yeah it’s either talisman or nothing in that scenario

From a first glance at least

[waxen dagger]

i did get tailsman

[candid niche]

do i take Lucky Cat and sack Cavendish?

[brittle umbra]

Can I win this y'all?

[candid niche]

i can play unleveled hands like 3oak to scale cat faster

[long zodiac]

Well hi nat negative eternal photo

[faint linden]

Sell Hex

[long zodiac]

it'll get me to 9 bucks

[candid niche]

yeah i'm buying cat over cavendish

RIP banana

[humble gulch]

I'd say it's not worth

[long zodiac]

so ill be too poor anyway

[woven remnant]

ü

[faint linden]

I mixed up the buy/sell values

[woven remnant]

ü

ü

[marsh tartan]

black deck PLEASE LET ME WIN

[faint linden]

[long zodiac]

Lowkey nebula is worse for winning

[woven remnant]

try again

[marsh tartan]

I've been at this for an hour blue stake is giving me the bird

[faint linden]

Anaglyph is underrated

[candid niche]

...alright i guess juggler dies?

[faint linden]

Used Throwback on Blue Stake

[lunar fjord]

baro-

[faint linden]

How many kings?

[wary crypt]

I think my Balatro is broken. I just beat purple stake on zodiac deck, went to go to the next stake and it never went up

[faint linden]

Beautiful

[wary crypt]

Still stuck on purple :/

[faint linden]

Watch out for

[woven remnant]

I dont think anaglyph works better as using your double tag on a simple skip rather than skipping repeatedly

[candid niche]

so sack juggler?

[long zodiac]

Sometimes you need to manually change the stake when you start a new run

[wary crypt]

That’s what I tried

[faint linden]

Better than not skipping

[wary crypt]

I went to manually do it and it just went to white stake :/

[long zodiac]

Wait was it a seeded run

[wary crypt]

Nope

[woven remnant]

I am currently on blue stake with it

I used the tags with either spectral or 25 dolar skip

[fiery nymph]

skip like once on anaglyph

thats what i typically do

[vital oar]

Im crine what do i do

[wary crypt]

Photo??

[lunar fjord]

neg photo

[fiery nymph]

take chad

[wary crypt]

Oh wait, he’s on the challenge

[vital oar]

Yup 😭

[fiery nymph]

what challenge is it

💔

oh dagger one

[wary crypt]

What jokers you missing for gold?

[fiery nymph]

a lot

im not naming all 58

😭

[wary crypt]

I haven’t even gotten all decks gold and I have over half the jokers gold :’)

[fiery nymph]

fair

[woven remnant]

I clutched it once with taking dolar for played hand tag on ante 8 big blind, I had bull

[wary crypt]

What is the worst joker to get gold in all honesty?

[long zodiac]

Grimbo

[candid niche]

you mean worst econ joker?

[fiery nymph]

probably one of the legendaries

[woven remnant]

I dont know

[long zodiac]

Oh wait i didnt understand the question my b

[lunar fjord]

seltzer

[fiery nymph]

second gold stake win btw

[hollow atlas]

money well spent?

[woven remnant]

popcorn?

[ancient gyro]

specific uncommon food jokers

[fiery nymph]

nah those arent bad

[wary crypt]

Got luck with it

[candid niche]

satellite probably

[fiery nymph]

in my opinion

i have most of the food jokers stickered

i just need canio and the rest should be easy

i also need to find a glass joker but idk how it goes in the card pool

😭

[woven remnant]

legendaries sound worse

[lunar fjord]

u could just restart a lot untile u get charm skip

and then pray for soul

[wary crypt]

Wrong place

[ancient gyro]

😐

[wary crypt]

Tried to text in a gc and I clicked here cus of a notification

:/

[candid niche]

you need glass cards in your deck to find him

[candid niche]

alright my scaling is kind of falling off...

been scrounging for hanged man to fix my deck even more...

[waxen dagger]

when the but the 📼 comes to save you

[candid niche]

you cursed me

[waxen dagger]

noooo :(

[candid niche]

its fine. i can't score that much anyway

[waxen dagger]

rip

[long zodiac]

Ig you could hope for a crying director’s cut

[candid niche]

my voucher is Hone

[waxen dagger]

wait i lowkey am getting e28

[long zodiac]

Yeah you’re cooked

[waxen dagger]

im reaching the limit i need brainstorm or invis or SOMETHING

[lunar fjord]

luchadoor

[candid niche]

unless i pull a luchador from Judgement?

[lunar fjord]

oooorr

[candid niche]

nope...

[lunar fjord]

you skip for spectral and get chicot

[candid niche]

and i had to sell my oops for that

[candid niche]

soul can only appear in arcana packs

[lunar fjord]

🥀

[long zodiac]

It can appear in spectral packs too

[willow frost]

can i see your cards

[waxen dagger]

HOLY YEES

[viral raft]

this entire buffon pack feels like it's screaming at me to play faces 😭

[long zodiac]

I had one in a spectral pack earlier this week

[willow frost]

what the fuck is this

[waxen dagger]

?? 😭

[candid niche]

RIP...

what a seed though

[willow frost]

why are almost half of these cards doodoo

[woven remnant]

.

[waxen dagger]

i mean

[willow frost]

WHY DO YOU HAVE NO MONEY

[waxen dagger]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

[willow frost]

you should be at at least $1k by now

where are the gold kings

[waxen dagger]

why... how even?

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[long zodiac]

Mime with gold cards

[willow frost]

MONE

[candid niche]

me when i don't get lucky several times:

[waxen dagger]

steel cards are needed for scoring

i think

[willow frost]

up till now theyre not, you have baron

[waxen dagger]

when its not steel i make it gold

[long zodiac]

Dawg i feel you there

I’m always punished and never lucky

[willow frost]

i see three gold cards in a deck of 61

[candid niche]

me when Devil doesn't always show up:

[bold pendant]

💔

[candid niche]

theyre simply not getting the right tarots

[bold pendant]

It’s so over

[candid niche]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[woven remnant]

I think mimes copies steels mult but I rarely play baron mime

[willow frost]

ITS BEEN 50 SHOPS LMAO

[candid niche]

hard to blame them for bad luck bro

[waxen dagger]

i can do this

its alright

[willow frost]

correct

[candid niche]

it does, but that would be excessive

[willow frost]

alright gl

[candid niche]

how would they have known to start making gold kings in early shops before baron/mime?

thats a little unfair to them

[willow frost]

money

[waxen dagger]

also its better to put bprint on baron instead of mime right?

[candid niche]

on kings specifically

[lunar fjord]

ye

[waxen dagger]

yeah im liike going into this blind

[candid niche]

in this case, yes, since you have 2 mimes. think of it like this:
3 mimes x 1 baron (3) vs 2 mimes x 2 baron (4)

[long zodiac]

Meanwhile i’m over here pulling a perishable showman 🥀

[waxen dagger]

i read the wiki page thats all

[candid niche]

if you only had 1 mime and 1 baron, it wouldnt matter

[waxen dagger]

okii

[bold pendant]

? Always trigger scoring

[lunar fjord]

dont u also have to account for red seals and steel?

[willow frost]

they have both so its ok

[bold pendant]

Prioritize scoring I mean*, if you have a copy joker n a mime/baron copy baron

[candid niche]

technically yes, but i wouldnt really worry about that too much

[lunar fjord]

ye

doesnt it canel out?

[waxen dagger]

it doesnt matter i know i will copy an joker

doesnt matter much which one atp

[lunar fjord]

bc 1 red seal is = to 1 mime and one steel is = to one baron?

[bold pendant]

yes

[candid niche]

why? copying mime gives you a baron retrigger PLUS extra planets from blue seals and extra money from gold cards, plus extra value from stuff like Raised Fist and Shoot the Moon

copying baron only gives you an extra baron

[ancient gyro]

regardless of card variation, copies should be evenly split, favoring baron for odd copies

[candid niche]

how come

[cloud sinew]

blue seal + gold value doesnt matter because you should be moving all your copies to mimes once scoring has started

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[cloud sinew]

the math works out that way

[bold pendant]

If you want blue seal value and gold value copy baron while scoring and move the copy joker over to the mime during the anim, you’ll copy the mime at end of round

[lunar fjord]

planets and money can still be copyed by the ned of the round

[humble gulch]

Blueprints and brainstorm can copy another joker once the hand is finished

[candid niche]

i had no idea thats how that works

[ancient gyro]

each baron copy is also each scoring retrigger. its just scoring distribution

[candid niche]

the more you know.wav

[lunar fjord]

and if ur considering shoot the moon and raised fist, its better to just copy those

[bold pendant]

Well now you know lol

[viral raft]

EXACTLY ON BOSS BLIND ANTE 8 IN MY BLACK DECK

LITERALLY CHERRY ON TOP

[cloud sinew]

youd win anyway

[viral raft]

still cool

don't care

[cloud sinew]

cope

[bold pendant]

3x C++ is insane work

[ancient gyro]

try 7

[viral raft]

idk is fun

[bold pendant]

going for my first lol got abt 20 jokers left

[viral raft]

i'll try to do my 6 c++

[bold pendant]

I’m good bro 💔

[ancient gyro]

ok

[viral raft]

to fill the 3 files on mobile and pc

really cool

[cloud sinew]

game has been out for over 2 years now, a ~600 hour commitment isnt that surprising

[waxen dagger]

also uh this is my first run even seeing exponentials soo

yeahh

[lunar fjord]

ohh

[bold pendant]

I forget some people js have that kinda time lol

[lunar fjord]

congrats

[bold pendant]

This is a game I mostly play in class

[waxen dagger]

i dont expect it to win tbh

[bold pendant]

Typing ts in history lecture

💔

[waxen dagger]

but i hope i do

[cloud sinew]

~an hour a day is not a big commitment

[waxen dagger]

assuming u play every day

[ancient gyro]

well i play other games

[waxen dagger]

some ppl have lives i fear

[bold pendant]

eh, that’s an hour you could be going to work, at the gym, sleeping etc etc

[waxen dagger]

not that i have one

[ancient gyro]

i just happened to be finishing uni at the time

[waxen dagger]

kbut some do

[bold pendant]

also yes that would be every day

[waxen dagger]

same

mostly celeste

[cloud sinew]

sorry you have such a sad life you cant spare 1 hour to play a game

[waxen dagger]

[bold pendant]

Bro did I attack you or something? What’s up?

[serene forge]

i love celeste

i love world abyss

[viral raft]

celeste is really cool

[serene forge]

you say as you talk on discord during school

[heady narwhal]

i love celeste

[viral raft]

the only thing that i don't like are farewell and maybe C sides

[bold pendant]

Dude what did I do yes lol

[viral raft]

but even that stuff is good

[humble gulch]

I'm trash at platformers

[viral raft]

so idk celeste is peak

[humble gulch]

Except mario

[serene forge]

i need to do farewell golden someday

[humble gulch]

For some reason

[viral raft]

Medieval torture

[serene forge]

jmibo have you played more of strawberry jam

[waxen dagger]

ooo i havent played that one yet

[heady narwhal]

i didn't like certain parts of farewell (comb room and rhythm section) but i thought it was pretty cool overall

[waxen dagger]

i have been trying fwg since i was in school

[viral raft]

yeah, my only problems is that is really long and some parts felt really really painful

[terse dock]

yall ever play sts2

[waxen dagger]

i am now in my 2th semester of college and still dont have it 😭

[serene forge]

havent yet

[waxen dagger]

its rly hard

[heady narwhal]

not really. i suck too much for advanced lobby

[viral raft]

nope! i was thinking of playing the first one

seems really cool

i like strategy games

[heady narwhal]

i feel like a lot of the level gimmicks are frustrating if you're bad at the game

[waxen dagger]

i think i can much do cpvl

[serene forge]

i still have fwg and hell trio left

[humble gulch]

I-, uh... uhm

[serene forge]

but idk getting motivation to grind is hard

[waxen dagger]

oo

[humble gulch]

Are you kidding?

[serene forge]

I hate Bootstraps

[serene forge]

here win

[heady narwhal]

i haven't gone for any golden strawberries. i'm not a full combo kind of they, i suppose

[serene forge]

have you done the winged goldden

[heady narwhal]

(i did the chapter 1 dashless and a couple of the c side goldens)

[waxen dagger]

what

[serene forge]

nice

[viral raft]

yeah, tbh that's not a big deal but the diff between all the rest of the game and farewell is insane, is like playing low stakes on balatro and then suddenly you start playing on gold stake or something

[waxen dagger]

okay i need to analyse this

by full combo u mean deathless i think

[heady narwhal]

yeah

[waxen dagger]

"kind of they" is like "kind of gal" but neutered

i think

wow

im such intellegice

:3

[heady narwhal]

i play a couple of rhythm games but i lack the patience to try to go for no miss

[waxen dagger]

i suck at rhythm 😭

how do u hit so many notes at once??

[long zodiac]

even the game is mocking me

[waxen dagger]

its like

15+ nps

[waxen dagger]

o which game is this?

[heady narwhal]

osu

[waxen dagger]

i neber played it tbh

i played fnf and vivid/statis

[serene forge]

i always say full clear instead of full combo because im celest brainrotted

[ancient gyro]

id rather just learn piano

[waxen dagger]

SO TRUE!

[heady narwhal]

i think it's pretty cool but it sucks to learn

[serene forge]

ive been playing for 14 years

[pallid galleon]

osu could make you cracked at fps games tho

piano doesnt

[heady narwhal]

you spend a lot of time trying to learn to read on maps that are really really boring and don't represent the songs properly

[waxen dagger]

have u seen the celeste brainrot at a carnival vid?

[ancient gyro]

i don't play fps games

[serene forge]

no

[ancient gyro]

i play like

tennis

[heady narwhal]

compared to something like chunithm where i was just able to jump into fun maps right away

[ancient gyro]

badminton

[serene forge]

tennis is bad for the arms

[ancient gyro]

likely story

[lunar fjord]

i like badminton too

[dusky snow]

Baltro

[heady narwhal]

Baltro

[ancient gyro]

im not physically challenged

thankfully

[serene forge]

[waxen dagger]

i have catstare jelly mod

[slow iris]

[serene forge]

[fiery nymph]

balatro lookin different

[serene forge]

oh my god look at this guy with a 92% winrate with photograph

[pallid galleon]

i never beat the last stage in celeste

[ancient gyro]

whatever that means

[pallid galleon]

or what i assume is the last stage

[heady narwhal]

which last stage

[serene forge]

you should play cosmic realm

[pallid galleon]

the weird one

[heady narwhal]

there are like three of those

[waxen dagger]

oo is it on hist?

[pallid galleon]

i think the one directly after you win?

[heady narwhal]

chapter 8?

[serene forge]

no it's a really stupid and funny techspam map

it's like 4 rooms long

[heady narwhal]

the one with the hot/cold switches?

i don't like chapter 8 very much

[pallid galleon]

i think it was chapter 9

[heady narwhal]

ah

[pallid galleon]

had like pufferfish

[heady narwhal]

yeah that's chapter 9

i had to play through celeste like 8 times to get through ch9

i kept getting stuck at the room with the comb shaped spikes and the horizontal elevator

[brittle umbra]

Do I have any sort of way to win this ?

[fiery nymph]

its to stop running photochad

[heady narwhal]

you probably should have had a glass numbered card

that's all you need to get photochad through plant

[serene forge]

yeah bring glass

if you don't have any skill issue

[brittle umbra]

I'll note that

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[pallid galleon]

a few days ago i had a cinema gold stake bloodstone run where the boss was debuff hearts

[serene forge]

good

[pallid galleon]

and i got out with a diamonds flush house with two glass

[brittle umbra]

Well anyway, what should I do ?

Like am I really cooked ?

[serene forge]

what's pants at

[heady narwhal]

probably

[serene forge]

you're probably dead

[heady narwhal]

just play the highest scoring hands you can

[lunar fjord]

u could just try and play more 2pair

[cloud sinew]

why are you copying fist instead of trousers

[tawny palm]

I am utterly incapable of beating greenstake

On blue deck

[lunar fjord]

yes

[pallid galleon]

keep playing and you'll get better

[brittle umbra]

[ancient gyro]

assuming you had 4 hands you wouldve prob cleared it in 2 2 pairs

[brittle umbra]

I had The Head as a boss, rerolled it and got The Plant, worse one possible..

[ancient gyro]

more reasons to go for boss agnostic builds

[brittle umbra]

Agnostic?

[heady narwhal]

builds which are unaffected by boss blinds

i.e. pairs

[lunar fjord]

like wee

[brittle umbra]

Ouh yeah makes sense

[ancient gyro]

or on joker scoring

[heady narwhal]

that's pairs

[ancient gyro]

or on joker scoring

[lunar fjord]

like pairs

[pallid galleon]

no repeat hand types tho

[lunar fjord]

like pairs

[crisp perch]

Yo how do I do gold stake plasma

[lunar fjord]

chips

[willow frost]

i fucking hate conversations in this chat sometimes

[crisp perch]

Ts harder than black deck n im not even on gold stake yet 😭

[ancient gyro]

lol

[heady narwhal]

if you just want to win once, spam chips until it works out

[lunar fjord]

ye

[crisp perch]

I’m on purple

[pallid galleon]

ngl gold stake plasma using chips is harder than it seems

[crisp perch]

It scales too fast for me idk

[heady narwhal]

if you want to win consistently then i have no clue. plasma is hard

[ancient gyro]

it's more or less the same

unfortunately

[crisp perch]

I can get like 100-150k n then boom it’s at 300 🥀

[safe moat]

Wdym

Gold stake plasma?

[lunar fjord]

its inconsistant

[crisp perch]

In other decks I just use glass n it make up the dif but I obvi can’t do that here cuz chips r better

[heady narwhal]

i think a big thing with plasma is that it's hard to tell how much any given change to your setup will improve your build

[daring gazelle]

Sell periedolia for chance at blueprint?

[ancient gyro]

full chip heavy builds are more consistent than xmult pivots as it requires multiple sets of x mults to surpass the raw chip scoring

[lunar fjord]

theres a lot less chips jokers compared to mult ones i think

[lunar fjord]

why do u even have paradolia?

[heady narwhal]

on a regular deck, x2 mult is x2 score, +200 chips with 200 base chips is x2 score, etc etc etc

[ancient gyro]

most mult jokers are only a quarter as effective on plasma

[heady narwhal]

there are only like 5 scaling chips jokers (that don't suck) yeah

[daring gazelle]

All face cards so it works with photo

[safe moat]

I think the thing with gold stake plasma is getting xmult up because eventually it out scales chips by a wide margin but you have to do it in like 4 antes

[crisp perch]

Ok maybe I have a chance

[lunar fjord]

that doesnt rly matter

[safe moat]

Yes rocket good

[daring gazelle]

Alright

I’ll take a shot at it

[lunar fjord]

you can alr get face cards constsantly kinda

[crisp perch]

Ye it’s like how do u manage to switch builds but also still win the round that makes it so hard

[lunar fjord]

i dont think u take wraith tho

[safe moat]

It’s not switching builds it’s building into one

[crisp perch]

Chat do I do it

[safe moat]

You’ll know when you can start taking x mult

[safe moat]

Honestly

No

[meager edge]

are the different decks (red, blue, green,...) making it easier? Or is it getting harder?

[lunar fjord]

baron lwk sucks

[crisp perch]

Do I skip for money or take the buffoon?

[lunar fjord]

(non endless)

[safe moat]

Even though it would be useful you have no planet levels

[lunar fjord]

save money

[safe moat]

They all have their own benefits most of them don’t have a downside

[crisp perch]

Kk

Besides black

[lunar fjord]

and nebula

[meager edge]

so it's more of different playstyles to lead you into rather than a difficulty progression

[heady narwhal]

some of them are good and some of them are bad

[ancient gyro]

plasma streaking generally just boils down to finding/playing

chips (jokers)
econ (jokers)
planets (uranus)
consumable gen (joker/card enhancements)
retriggers (jokers)
etc.

[meager edge]

I really like how that is made

[shell dagger]

I’d consider merry andy here over barone

[lunar fjord]

u dont rly need retriggers tho

do you?

[heady narwhal]

black and green and plasma make the game harder, nebula and erratic make the game less fun

yellow and blue are the easiest

[lunar fjord]

cuz u could get a wee or square and just

[safe moat]

Maybe

[shell dagger]

you don’t need anything other than 800k points at the end

[lunar fjord]

win

[safe moat]

Why?

[meager edge]

wdym maybe 😭

[shell dagger]

retriggers are just a good way of getting there

[ancient gyro]

chips and enhancements are retriggered and more chip jokers are improved with retriggers

[crisp perch]

Is heiro the only good thing here

[pallid galleon]

erratic makes the game less fun?

[shell dagger]

discards good

value good

[crisp perch]

Nothing in fool

[lunar fjord]

not all builds need retriggers tho

[safe moat]

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say

[ancient gyro]

wee/arrowhead/todd

[heady narwhal]

in my opinion yes. it's a bit of a slog at the start

[safe moat]

But the minus one hand size brutal

[lunar fjord]

oh yea

i forgot abt that

[safe moat]

Unless pair spam is that powerful

[shell dagger]

nobody said they do

[heady narwhal]

if i want to play 3/4oak i can play abandoned or zodiac instead

or painted

[ancient gyro]

you still get more score from initial card scoring

[pallid galleon]

makes sense

[meager edge]

Like normally games have a difficulty progression...
First you face easy challenges that you can beat quickly and then there's a shift in difficulty towards more difficult gameplay

It feels like this isn't made like that but rather to lead you into different playstyles ...
I think thats cool

[ancient gyro]

so at worst it still gives chips

[shell dagger]

retriggers make the chips to xmult pivot way easier

just spam planets then glass is already the pivot

[heady narwhal]

well there's also difficulty progression with stakes

[wanton oracle]

Game is edging me

[meager edge]

yesss thats true

[shell dagger]

just use the soul then death to get another stencil duh

[safe moat]

Not exactly only a few decks do that but for the most part they all have their quirk but it doesn’t affect playstyle all that much

[wanton oracle]

It's canio

[safe moat]

Hm

[meager edge]

hmm okee

[wanton oracle]

Worthless

[ancient gyro]

😐

[safe moat]

NO

[viral raft]

hi

[safe moat]

DAWG THATS THE BEST ONE YOU COULD GET RN

[wanton oracle]

Best one would be trib

[plain nimbus]

Mmmhhh trib is lwk bette

[wanton oracle]

Or chicot

[ancient gyro]

second best technically but yeah

[safe moat]

Debatable

[lunar fjord]

canio 🔥

[safe moat]

Chicot is unnecessary because you have hand levels

[crisp perch]

Holy this run is going crazy 😭

[wanton oracle]

I have 9 queens in deck

5 kings

[safe moat]

Like you’re walking around with 5^4

[wanton oracle]

Trib is definitely better

[lunar fjord]

ye

[wanton oracle]

I win in both

But still

[crisp perch]

Do I sell rif for blue?

[safe moat]

Yeah I agree then

[crisp perch]

And do I sell out of straight joker

[safe moat]

No

[shell dagger]

you don’t need to

[safe moat]

Take brainstorm

[ancient gyro]

gets hard countered by two boss blinds

[safe moat]

It’s not bait here

[crisp perch]

For riff value

[crisp perch]

Kk

[shell dagger]

I don’t think taking brainstorm was ever out of the picture ngl

[crisp perch]

Ye I got the money

[wanton oracle]

Yeah I don't think my 4 joker stencils gonna care about those

[safe moat]

Definitely seemed like it was being ignored

[shell dagger]

plasma is like the only deck where they’re the same tier on gs

bs and bp

[crisp perch]

I just took the pic as I got into shop

[safe moat]

mb sorry 😭

[ancient gyro]

not the answer to your statement earlier but sure

[safe moat]

That wasn’t meant to be so condescending

[wanton oracle]

You just wanna argue

[ancient gyro]

im just answering your statement

[crisp perch]

Didn’t take it that way I need all the help I can get to beat plasma

[ancient gyro]

god forbid there be discussion in a discussion channel

[wanton oracle]

Look, arguing with nobody

[ancient gyro]

canio*

fixed it

[safe moat]

It’s still Japanese Belgian waffle?

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[lunar fjord]

honestly

[safe moat]

Oh why

[lunar fjord]

chicot is the only one that isnt that good

[safe moat]

Wait so it was canio?

[safe moat]

No Chicot is peak

We love Chicot

[ancient gyro]

well it's best until antimatter shows up for a specific tech but otherwise yeah

[viral raft]

all of them are peak

the least peak is trib

[safe moat]

trib is fine

Perkelator is free income

[lunar fjord]

their building queens and kings

[ancient gyro]

chico doesn't really do much against x256 scoring unless their base mult is less than 3

[safe moat]

oh I thought you were making a general statement

[serene forge]

noob

[serene forge]

noob

[serene forge]

noob

[brittle umbra]

Do I get something from discovering every spectral card ?

[viral raft]

the problem with Trib is the fact forces you to play queens/kings

[serene forge]

the problem with trib is that its $10

[safe moat]

No

[viral raft]

and also is the only legendary which one boss counters it (The plant and maybe The mark )

all the rest of legen jokers are support jokers or strong scaling Xmults

[vivid stump]

how does the mark counter gng

[safe moat]

That’s not a problem that’s just its design

[viral raft]

idk that's why i said maybe

[ancient gyro]

0 days since last legendary utility discussion

[viral raft]

some people is really bad at the game

[viral raft]

wdym?

[ancient gyro]

mark is a soft counter depending if you're mainly running 2 pair/3oak

or if you don't play like scum

[safe moat]

I don’t remember

😭

[viral raft]

this channel is basically talking about how bad are white stake strategies and legendaries

and sometimes pairslop

[viral raft]

😭

[safe moat]

Do you want discussion about something other than that

[ancient gyro]

I liked my ace rank discussion a few hours ago

[viral raft]

idk imo tags and some jokers deserves a rework

[ancient gyro]

but the person I argued with didn't have enough information to refute my statements so it just ended

[viral raft]

seánce, throwback, showman and others are straight up garbage

[vivid stump]

skipping should actually be worth it

[vivid stump]

showman?

[viral raft]

is only worthy on ante 1 round 1

[safe moat]

It can’t be

[lunar fjord]

in most situations

[vivid stump]

yea or if u get a rare tag

[viral raft]

Showman is just a big copium to white stake

[waxen quartz]

well is there a non-pair-slop gold stake strat that's reasonable to succeed (except say straights on plasma or 3/4oak erratic)?

[safe moat]

Not with the way the game is designed rn

[vivid stump]

ONLY SKIP RARE TAGS

how to play painted deck

[pallid galleon]

guys when you pick up an early obelisk what hand do you like spamming

[safe moat]

Steel cards

[viral raft]

two pair?

[wanton oracle]

Seed also had a baron mime, really cracked stuff

[vivid stump]

pairs

[safe moat]

High card

[viral raft]

pair then i play anything

[lunar fjord]

watch out

[viral raft]

like high card or two pair

[wanton oracle]

SN48AP1K

[ancient gyro]

pairs by default
certain jokers may entertain a different hand type cap

[lunar fjord]

its very large

[pallid galleon]

yeah playing high card would be risky

[safe moat]

Why

[wanton oracle]

It was really scary, I almost lost to it by 2 million chips

[viral raft]

because imagine a bad draft

you just instanly lost

[waxen dagger]

can you get the same boss blind multiple times in a run?

[ancient gyro]

you can be forced to reset it

[fiery nymph]

what is this run 😭 😭

[safe moat]

Well then what do you play after pair?

I’m learning now :>

[ancient gyro]

2 pair, straights, flushes, 3oak

[viral raft]

tbh anything but mostly high card, 3oak or two pair

yeah

[wanton oracle]

Only if you see all other boss blinds

[viral raft]

i like to go full pair then in obelisk i just play 3oak

[safe moat]

What supports 3 oak flushes and straights

[viral raft]

is literally the same

[viral raft]

to help you scale Obelisk

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[safe moat]

No no

[waxen dagger]

by see do u mean play or just see them occur

[pallid galleon]

how many pairs do you guys like to play until you start building obelisk

[waxen dagger]

like do they count if rerolled

[safe moat]

Like what jokers support those hands for the most part

[olive flax]

Somehow won with this build (bean was basic jimbo)

[wanton oracle]

Just see them

Rerolls count

[serene forge]

like 12

[heady narwhal]

10 pairs is fine, 12-15 lets you scale more

[pallid galleon]

in an obelisk build you don't really need to go for hand specific synergies

[serene forge]

usually with obelisk your scoring is unconditional

[ancient gyro]

trio (pivot to fh 💔)
runner/shortcut/4f
smeared/4f/aj

[safe moat]

4 fingers is so goated

[ancient gyro]

in terms of enabling the first half of obbylicks

its

whatever

[safe moat]

We need more jokers like that

That bend the rules

Btw I’m playing black deck with this

[pallid galleon]

🧐

[steep vale]

I hit a grand total of two money rolls with this hand btw

[wanton oracle]

2/15 13 times

It's normal

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[vestal copper]

wise

[waxen dagger]

what if high card is above level1

does it reduce it by a significant amount?

and by significant amount i mean at all

[lunar fjord]

ye

[red sparrow]

Do I take?

[safe moat]

A little bit

[safe moat]

Yes?

Fuck the banana

We ball

[red sparrow]

But cavendish

[waxen dagger]

by how much?

[lunar fjord]

not that much

but

[safe moat]

But idgaf

[lunar fjord]

its noticable

[waxen dagger]

is there an equation

[ancient gyro]

is cav in the room with us

[lunar fjord]

for example

[wanton oracle]

With level 57 high card you basically save 10 1.5x

[lunar fjord]

yea

that

[wanton oracle]

Just calculate 1.5x^some number

[ancient gyro]

+1

[tranquil oasis]

just got a blueprint

just got a blueprint

WHY did it sent two

[humble gulch]

-1000 aura

[ancient gyro]

dementia

[tranquil oasis]

lowk

[humble gulch]

I'll never say that again

❤️‍🩹

[tranquil oasis]

wait

I have NO good jokers to pair it with🥹✌️

and I lost🥹✌️

[humble gulch]

Me when blueprint is trash as an early joker

[waxen dagger]

thats what blueprint does

[tranquil oasis]

blueprint sucks sometimes🥹✌️

[humble gulch]

Most creative joke of the month

[tranquil oasis]

playing poker and Balatro at the same time

[rich mauve]

where is my spectral pack for a billion antes, chat? ( next)

I can sell negatives to survive but this is hard capped

[woven remnant]

your messages look 3 times larger than it supposed to be

[humble gulch]

I see them as normal

[woven remnant]

odd

[meager edge]

when are vouchers changed?

[humble gulch]

You mean the upgrades?

Upgrades can appear once you buy the tier one

If you mean vouchers in general, a new voucher appears every ante

[woven remnant]

türkçe olduğunu sonradan idrak ettim

[humble gulch]

If you don't buy one it can appear multiple times

[meager edge]

ohh oke

[meager edge]

wdym with upgrades?

[humble gulch]

Every voucher has a tier two

[meager edge]

oh ye i know that

so vouchers appear after ante right?

[atomic trout]

I can't 🤣

[meager edge]

or before?

[humble gulch]

After

[meager edge]

okii ty ❤️

[waxen dagger]

i need a brainstorm... badly

[serene forge]

no brainstorm in ante 21

thats so sad

no antimatter either

[humble gulch]

(Dies)

[atomic trout]

Barely won

[humble gulch]

Free win

[fringe nebula]

why do you have to show up so late.....

[turbid smelt]

Take photo?

[humble gulch]

No

[proven ember]

Tough decision

[turbid smelt]

Idk man 👨

It’s looking good

[humble gulch]

Just no

[turbid smelt]

Why

Xmult

I’m on a pairslop run

[humble gulch]

Your mult comes from the jokers, not the cards

[heady narwhal]

xmult that applies before your 3000 +mult jokers

so it sucks

[atomic trout]

Not enough blue seals

[humble gulch]

Photo is trash without retriggers or levels

[turbid smelt]

Two pair is level 11

12 actually

[heady narwhal]

would you rather have +13 mult
or +15 mult

[humble gulch]

Wow, a +13 mult

[turbid smelt]

+15

[heady narwhal]

that's summit

don't buy photo

[turbid smelt]

If I just play two pair with face cards tho

[heady narwhal]

then photo is +13 mult

which sucks

[turbid smelt]

My pants joker is 33 mult

[heady narwhal]

that's more than 13

[turbid smelt]

Yes

Thanks captain obvious

[vivid stump]

how to play painted deck

[turbid smelt]

Flushes

[vivid stump]

bruh

how to build for flush five

[humble gulch]

???????????

[fiery nymph]

you destroy other cards and copy the card you want to use

[humble gulch]

Straights

Or pairs

[vivid stump]

how to build for straights

[fiery nymph]

get rid of high and low ranks

[vivid stump]

thats it?

[humble gulch]

Cut low or high ranks an make copies from the ranks you want to play

[fiery nymph]

yeah

[vivid stump]

kk

[fiery nymph]

you dont even need to copy imo, shaving the low and high ranks is the most important

[vivid stump]

so cut face cards and ace-4?

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[mental bloom]

Straights honestly gotta be the most boring hand to build ngl

[waxen dagger]

i tried

[fiery nymph]

you can keep face card jack and queen if its hard

[humble gulch]

I hate doing straights, but I can say that's not true

[mental bloom]

What's worse?

[humble gulch]

Deck fixing for high card

[quaint stag]

steel cards on big hands are pretty good on painted tbh

[mental bloom]

Understandable

And true

[quaint stag]

any "in hand" ability is decent but steel cards with decent planets are probably the play

[vivid stump]

yea

steel card gold card blue seal

[quaint stag]

yeup

[humble gulch]

Or the agressive scaling from saturn

[vivid stump]

yea blue seal

[quaint stag]

also that

[lean parcel]

How strong is ceremonial dagger?

[quaint stag]

straights on painted are great

[humble gulch]

Not much

Slightly weak

[lean parcel]

Alr

[vivid stump]

alr gonna start a painted run

[mental bloom]

Good enough with Xmult just be careful about your joker placements, EVERYTIME

[vivid stump]

give me advice pls

[quaint stag]

probably the worst scaling mult in the game unless you somehow kept an egg from ante 1

[floral mural]

usable enough i suppose

its a flat mult scaler which is a bit demanding but its still usable

its fine

[heady narwhal]

????

bootstraps and fortune teller are way way worse

[mental bloom]

Go with straights first I guess

[vivid stump]

why are straights better than flushes

[heady narwhal]

dagger is a reliable +4 mult per round for cheap

[humble gulch]

I'm so biased... but I guess it's true...

[heady narwhal]

scale 3x as fast

[quaint stag]

yeah but boot sounds funnier therefore dagger bad

[floral mural]

scales wat better off of planets

[vivid stump]

just that

[split rivet]

i love bootstraps

[vivid stump]

?

[mental bloom]

Yeah

[vivid stump]

i think fortune teller is but not bootstraps

[heady narwhal]

3x is a lot of x

[serene forge]

good

[mental bloom]

The jokers are also better

[floral mural]

nah bootstraps is so so ass

[humble gulch]

Almost every flush build is trash

[serene forge]

significantly better scaling

[vivid stump]

i can reliably get bootstraps to 120 mult

[fiery nymph]

isnt the tribe literally like x2

[mental bloom]

The Order makes X3 mult and The Tribe makes X2

[heady narwhal]

what stake

[quaint stag]

straight scaling is lethal when you have decent handsize

[humble gulch]

Straights are kinda like pair, you can use pretty much any joker

[mental bloom]

Huge difference trust

[floral mural]

i love hording money just to die because oops i cant reroll

[serene forge]

flushes with 2 discards take about as much effort to play as straights

[floral mural]

flash card is unironically better bootstraps

[fiery nymph]

level 71 straight for the win

[heady narwhal]

yeah
and flash card is not very good at all

[quaint stag]

peak

[vivid stump]

gng what is this

[mental bloom]

Zamn

[frank notch]

straights are the best hand for jokerless

[serene forge]

ancient joker is annoyingly good because it actually makes flush viable

[patent sail]

waow... they are all gay....

[mental bloom]

Pushed a High Card level over 100 once

[weak berry]

i love flush so much its my favorite

[serene forge]

hardest verdant leaf encounter

[quaint stag]

wait how the fuck did you get 3 poly burnt jokers

[vivid stump]

does ancient work with red seal

[floral mural]

so ancient joker is good while flushes are just convenient for triggering it got it

[quaint stag]

yes it does

[fiery nymph]

true...

[vivid stump]

prolly hex and invis

[serene forge]

yes

[frank notch]

ancient joker isnt that good without a heap of wild cards

[weak berry]

horse emoji

[crisp perch]

Chat how do I win ante 8

[serene forge]

pretty much

[frank notch]

because it doesnt cycle from your deck

[heady narwhal]

it does retrigger but you only get to use any given seal on 1 in 4 rounds so

[quaint stag]

im crying they deployed the cavalry

[serene forge]

you do not want a heap of wild cards with ancient

you want no more than a couple

[floral mural]

for most gold stake runs going for many wild cards is terrible

[frank notch]

true, wild cards DO suck

[serene forge]

thats a good thing

[floral mural]

they nerf ancient

[vivid stump]

they want me to play flushes

[mental bloom]

Wild card rework when

[fiery nymph]

so burnt was first joker, i hexed and then found ankh, then found the poly shortcut naturally and then an invis showed up

[serene forge]

if ancient read your deck it would be like idol where you just lose because you get unlucky

[patent sail]

mitosis

[mental bloom]

Oh well

[floral mural]

also i like ancient fixing not just being shove in wild cards and reduce suits you dont want

[humble gulch]

Open buffon

[quaint stag]

do you have the seed for this deck i lowkey wanna try this out

[floral mural]

its more fun

[weak berry]

i got ran over by an army just now LMAO

[vivid stump]

nah im not giving

[fiery nymph]

i dont have it

[vivid stump]

in

[fiery nymph]

i dont keep em sorry

[quaint stag]

awww man

[vivid stump]

opening buffon

[fiery nymph]

😭

[mental bloom]

Credit card???????

[serene forge]

painted deck is not a flush deck

[vivid stump]

uh nothing good

[serene forge]

PARKING