🕹・game-discussion

[split rivet]

well

[fiery nymph]

true...

[split rivet]

if u can obvs

[humble gulch]

Get shoot the moon

[lean parcel]

The eternal ones are always weird if I don’t need them later it’s a huge loss

[humble gulch]

Don't be picky

[lean parcel]

Should I grab an eternal spare trousers?

[split rivet]

well are you prepared to two pair all the wayyy babyyyyy

[lean parcel]

I usually spam two pair for everything

[split rivet]

then yes its a no brainer

[lean parcel]

Bet

[cursive crater]

FUCK YOUUU

FUCK YOU

[warm bloom]

me when violet vessel

[split rivet]

real

[cursive crater]

I FINALLY HAD A GOOD RUN ON BLACK DECK

[warm bloom]

yea i had the same thing today

i was trying to do gold stake black deck and then violet vessel ruins everything

[split rivet]

black deck brings the pain

[warm bloom]

i have no idea how youre supposed to beat it properly

[split rivet]

sheer spite

[warm bloom]

i tried forcing pairs but the scaling is so bad i just die

[humble gulch]

Violent vessel

[warm bloom]

and i cant find any other consistent thing

[cursive crater]

my vessel is violently shaken after this

[lean parcel]

We got the gold card🔥🔥🔥

[split rivet]

lfg

[lean parcel]

Got $23 from just that round🙏🙏🙏

Pulled another gold from standard pack this could be good

[split rivet]

coming from doing tons of jokerless runs,the right way to go about it is leveling and relying on higher hands, and shaping your deck a lot

the jonkers well they do their best but if you only got 4 of them you gotta lean on your deck

[lean parcel]

Omg I pulled some generational tarot cards Im swimming in cash

[warm bloom]

makes sense, i got my orange stake win by doing a photochad build with 5oak

so ill try doing that more

[split rivet]

even straights/4oak is goated

flush is a trap because it scales like ass

[warm bloom]

i dont think ive done a straight build in months

[split rivet]

i'm fully straightpilled these days

the only problem is 2 discards is a bit short for that to be successful

so if you see the garbage bin early on, it can really come clutch

[novel rain]

Alright guys, wish me luck...

[split rivet]

you can do it

i think

[wintry ice]

get some mars and glass for emergencies

[novel rain]

I just hope it hits rocket

[wintry ice]

that's how i usually deal with boss blinds that are tricky for pairs

[novel rain]

Hell yeah

[split rivet]

wait you going in the final boss with 4/5 that is ballsy

[humble gulch]

He only has 4 joker slots

[novel rain]

Only three challenges left.

[split rivet]

ohhhh

its a challenge duhhh i thought it was red deck

mb

[humble gulch]

Uh

[fiery nymph]

i think its like worse than 3oak

😭

[fiery nymph]

worst case scenario ur out of debt

🙏

[humble gulch]

Luxury tax, I want negative money

[fiery nymph]

oh

[lean parcel]

This has to be the run

[fiery nymph]

W

you took the negative 😭

[humble gulch]

It's never enough

Who needs jokers ❤️‍🩹

[lean parcel]

I did before anyone told me not to 😭

I’m torn here Should I give up one of my golds or the planet one?

[humble gulch]

Gold

[lean parcel]

Ok

[fiery nymph]

luckily didnt mess you up

at least jimbo is a nice sticker to have

it goes on the end screen which is nice

[ancient gyro]

oh checkered comes after abandoned

let's get this over with 😒

oh ok

[lean parcel]

This is a generational build omg

[fiery nymph]

im probably gonna get c++ before c+

[ancient gyro]

back to reality

[fiery nymph]

i dont want to play checkered deck

[warm bloom]

checkered deck is so easy

i almost winstreaked all the way up to gold

[ancient gyro]

if it makes you feel any better i still havent gotten c+ on my last profile

or c

[fiery nymph]

yeah thats why i dont want to play it

its so boring zzzzz

and i have to go up so many stakes

[ancient gyro]

zzz

[lean parcel]

I scored a 100k two pair with level 5 then got 4 planets from the blue seal 🙏🙏🙏

[ancient gyro]

(i got it over with)

[fiery nymph]

you cant even hold allat 😭

blue seals still goated

[warm bloom]

blue stakes NOT goated

[fiery nymph]

so many words

[pulsar geyser]

is there like any way to unlocking legendary jokers faster???

[novel rain]

Any tips for unlocking Stuntman/getting 100,000,000 in a single hand? I've done it before, but it was in the Omelette challenge, so I didn't get the achievement

[warm bloom]

play on plasma deck

[stark charm]

naw

[lean parcel]

I got 2 on each round 2 rounds in a row

[fiery nymph]

oh

[lean parcel]

Could’ve had 6 if I had an extra slot

At level 12 rn this boss blind aint gonna know what hit him🙏

[modest snow]

open a lot of arcana packs and spectral packs

[pulsar geyser]

why arcana?

[modest snow]

the soul card (gives you a legendary) has a 0.03% chance to appear as any card in an arcana pack or spectral pack

[fiery nymph]

nice abandoned deck win

[hidden lance]

fun run

[sterile nexus]

Best run

[terse vale]

good for me

[tranquil oasis]

just found a negative blueprint

[frank notch]

show ss

[novel rain]

Should I keep Square Joker or Half Joker? (I just picked up Square Joker, but I think the potential scaling could end up being better than Half in the long run)

[frank notch]

you dont need to sell either atm

[frank notch]

you took double money tag on small blind right?

[tranquil oasis]

no

[frank notch]

how did you get so much money then

[tranquil oasis]

skipped the first

played the big blind

[frank notch]

thats what i said...

[tranquil oasis]

double money tag

[frank notch]

i SAID that

[tranquil oasis]

I took a rare tag

[frank notch]

how do you have so much money then

[tranquil oasis]

IM ON YELLOW DECO

deck*

[frank notch]

i know

[tranquil oasis]

this guy

[frank notch]

oh wait nvm im stupid

[tranquil oasis]

you know that feeling when you just wanna goon

[frank notch]

go to off topic

[frank notch]

ante 2 small blind death because no scoring

[fervent haven]

real

[tranquil oasis]

I found a gros

[fiery nymph]

stop preying on the downfall 😭

[tranquil oasis]

I rerolled

[fiery nymph]

a single mult source works

[novel rain]

What should I sell for Blueprint, if anything?

[frank notch]

true

[frank notch]

whats bus at?

[novel rain]

+13

Square is at 44

[frank notch]

id say sell half joker

[fiery nymph]

id say sly joker

personally

half joker for later

[woven spire]

yeah

[lean parcel]

God damn🙏

[woven spire]

sly is not needed if you have double value of burnt

[novel rain]

I already sold half

[fiery nymph]

bruh

[novel rain]

I'll probably sell Sly later for xmult

if I can find something good

[fiery nymph]

blueprint on burnt already gives you like most of the sly joker

💔

[lean parcel]

Then I get this immediately

[fiery nymph]

yum

time to increase game speed

[woven spire]

fr now

[lean parcel]

I should sell the steel one and blueprint the mime right?

[frank notch]

why is jimbo there

[fiery nymph]

its negative

[lean parcel]

It’s a negative

[frank notch]

ik

[fiery nymph]

so its a dumb question

[lean parcel]

I also can’t get rid of it if I wanted

[frank notch]

i just find it funny a bit

[fiery nymph]

temperance value

[lean parcel]

?

[fiery nymph]

how much is steel

[lean parcel]

2x something rn I think

[woven spire]

i’ve trained my brain to play in x512 speed and i can’t play without it anymore

i hate it

[humble gulch]

Bruh, first try

[fiery nymph]

yeah go for it

[lean parcel]

Alr

[fiery nymph]

get rid of steel

[foggy sun]

oh

[tranquil oasis]

I lost

[lean parcel]

Blueprint the mime right?

[fiery nymph]

FLUSH FIVE

[upbeat vector]

whoever seeded my judgement to give me bumfire count your days

[tranquil oasis]

gave me NO good jokers to copy bro

[humble gulch]

Jokerless it's actually really easy...

[fiery nymph]

yeah

[lean parcel]

Ok

[humble gulch]

Usually is that or straights

[fiery nymph]

what about 4oak??

its same scaling as straights no?

[humble gulch]

I don't really like it

[fiery nymph]

okay

f5 is cool anyways

[humble gulch]

Golden needle is harder than jokerless

[terse vale]

ya i’d say so

[terse vale]

I somehow doubt that

[lean parcel]

Nooooooooo

I got cooked by bad luck again🙏

[fiery nymph]

:(

[fiery nymph]

ante 12 is good

[lean parcel]

Got no steels and no two pairs for like the whole round

[tranquil oasis]

the only jokers I found were banner and an 8 ball

[fiery nymph]

cant really complain about it, it is blue stake after all

[lean parcel]

Yeah that’s the first time I beat blue stake

[tranquil oasis]

with the only good one being michel

[fiery nymph]

gl on purple stake its a jump

[lean parcel]

Imma save that seed and se if I can rerun it on white stake and get further

[terse vale]

well if you need scoring

[tranquil oasis]

with died FIRST BLIND

[tranquil oasis]

I was doing a flush build😔

I was gonna use up my discards anyway✌️

[terse vale]

well that’s prolly the problem

[tranquil oasis]

flushes🥹✌️

[terse vale]

ya

[tranquil oasis]

I love them so much

[fiery nymph]

its a toxic relationship

flushes are killing you

[tranquil oasis]

got my entire deck to be spades

fire🥹

[lean parcel]

It scales even faster? It’s so over😭 imma need that mime luck again

[fiery nymph]

hope ur ready for the 1.2m vessels

😭 🙏

[lean parcel]

How many more stakes are there after this?

[tranquil oasis]

I don’t see the problem with flushes

[fiery nymph]

purple, orange, gold

ur almost there

[fiery nymph]

its got abysmal planet scaling

[lean parcel]

3 more? Last ones gonna be some BS I just know it

“Ante 1 small blind. 10 million”

[terse vale]

5 card hand, needs on-score most of the time, bad scaling, can die to bosses easily, not many jokers that synergize,

[fiery nymph]

it doesnt scale anymore luckily

[terse vale]

and more I prolly forgot

[lean parcel]

What do the last 2 do?

[terse vale]

perishables and rentals

[tranquil oasis]

no scaling no problem🥹✌️

[fiery nymph]

orange adds perishable gold ads rentals

[lean parcel]

wtf is a rental?

[terse vale]

takes 3 dollars at the end of round

[tranquil oasis]

it will NOT stop my amazing flush streak🥹✌️

[lean parcel]

💀💀💀

[terse vale]

its a sticker like eternal

[lean parcel]

And perishables?

[fiery nymph]

it debuffs after 5

rounds

[terse vale]

disables itself after 5 rounds

[lean parcel]

Imma need to take that on another time🙏 gn everyone thx for the help

[fiery nymph]

have a gn

[tranquil oasis]

I refuse to not play flushes atleast once in a Balatro run

[olive flax]

Im trying to get c++ but im currently considering skipping the deck stickers and just doing the decks i like. Then doing the fun part, jokers

[fiery nymph]

im doing c++ before c+

its honestly a lot nicer

[olive flax]

Yea, I think ill do c+ after 1.1

[tranquil oasis]

first time doing a gold stake run on a pair build

let’s chase the buzz

[oak bough]

Hey so I'm not stuck but am left with a great opportunity...

I posted it in the run discussion

[olive flax]

DNA instead of buskin if you got a good card

Or smiley

[oak bough]

I am making red seal kings

[olive flax]

Then there you go

Smiley can go

[oak bough]

Bc sock can retrigger right?

[olive flax]

Yea

[oak bough]

And my joker placement is good with print next to Chad right?

And with it being poly as well being to the right

[olive flax]

Seems fine

[oak bough]

Okay cool thanks

[olive flax]

Np

[humble gulch]

Huh

[ancient gyro]

wattesigma

[icy flax]

fuck

[dark lava]

JokerPokerBalala

[icy flax]

Update

[kind sierra]

So we know thay 1.1 is still in development. Will we know when 1.1 enters closed testing?

[slow iris]

no

[kind sierra]

Ok

[slow iris]

1.1 will be ready whenever it's ready

[kind sierra]

I understand that

[heavy heron]

sir it seems you've made a mistake... you're not going flushes on checkered... something must've went wrong....

[hollow atlas]

hmm, yes, I have played flush 25 times

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[hollow atlas]

the humble Oops! All 6s

[serene forge]

flush hourse is like flush if it was good

[short salmon]

5 Barons

[halcyon garden]

Seeded run?

[short salmon]

No just found it, no mime yet though

[halcyon garden]

1 in a quadrillion luck 💔

[short salmon]

Ill post the seed in the seed channel once I die or nan-inf...

[teal peak]

not even that crazy

[halcyon garden]

Is nan inf even possible with that

[teal peak]

no

[short salmon]

no, you would need like 200+ kings in hand i dont know the math

[teal peak]

u need mime

replace with a baron

[halcyon garden]

Is it possible to get 200 kings in one hand

[teal peak]

perkeo

and cryptid

[short salmon]

I mean technically its possible without mime if you somehow get enough kings but low key it might be in the thousands

[teal peak]

or burgler and serpent

[teal peak]

ye

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 4

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 3

[versed sable]

balatrodle in 4,,

[noble mango]

Should i try balatrodle

[frank notch]

if you want

[noble mango]

Well
Balatrodle

[upper spade]

This is gonna end up being close.

Of course.

[lapis blade]

god's punishment for taking eternal stencil

[upper spade]

I had that Stencil since the start of the game.

I was running Scholar, Abstract and Stencil till ante 4.

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[toxic wolf]

[lapis blade]

i like bludstone

[slow iris]

I hate Throwback

[lapis blade]

who doesn't

[upper spade]

Me.

[humble gulch]

You shall not be spared

[upper spade]

Fair enough.

[frank notch]

its so over

[humble gulch]

Nat negative luchador in the shop

[frank notch]

i did not get a nat negative luchador

[upper spade]

Got Burnt from a tag.
Got Brainstorm naturally right next to it.

[ancient gyro]

mixed messages the run

[green carbon]

DNA with Hologram is lowkey really good

[upper spade]

Are we deadass?

[ancient gyro]

it's slightly worse than the other few joker card bloating joker alternatives where they have unconditional requirements

[nova mantle]

all the good jokers are here 🔋 🌹

[jaunty onyx]

id say thats a good ante 1 rare skip

[median grove]

are pair builds bad with plasma deck?

does plasma prefer certain hands

[humble gulch]

Not really

[nova mantle]

if you set them up correctly they should be almost as viable

id say theyre a bit less good than in other decks, mainly cause the main reason pair buils flop is because of unbereable scaling (as when you get violet vessel as the a8 boss for example)

[slow iris]

only bad thing is the lack of chips you get from them

[nova mantle]

but every build gets hurt by plasma´s scaling so id say it doesnt really make a difference

[median grove]

okay thanks

also is supernova mainly a pair joker?

or can it be good for flush / 4oak

dang

[random lark]

isn't two pair just better on plasma since you don't really care about +mult in most cases

[nova mantle]

i wouldnt use them for 4oak since it relies on you easily getting the hand youre working with

[nova mantle]

you could pull a flush supernova on checkered deck tho

but other than that yep, its a pair joker

[random lark]

supernova
-good on pairs
-okay on flushes
-bad on anything else

[edgy stone]

High card?

[nova mantle]

supernova be so ass when i get the ox

and it be so ass in general lul

[random lark]

if you're playing high card you don't need supernova

[nova mantle]

ive never heard about that actually

is it?

[random lark]

pairs give 15 chips a level (okay for an easy hand but bad early)
two pairs and 3oak give 20 chips (p. good)
flush is 15 (bad)
f.h. gives 25 (bad)
straights and 4oak are 30 (good)

[rustic haven]

holy early set up

[random lark]

early on (ante 1-2), two pair lets you score 4 cards so a high two pair can give a pretty good amount of score

[median grove]

is this just a terrible build?

i know i have decent jokers but im scoring so low

any help?

[random lark]

is this a high card build

[edgy stone]

So how are u gonna build high card? Supernova is a decent +mult and good combine with any scaling or econ joker

[median grove]

no its a flush build because i got an early spectral card

i guess i dont have any good flush jokers

is that why?

[nova mantle]

i did know 2 pairs were pretty reliable early game but i never thought about scaling them for the whole run

[median grove]

like a suit joker

[nova mantle]

thats a pretty interesting insight

[terse vale]

just do pairs

[random lark]

if you wanna rely off of supernova for +mult scaling just play pairs instead

[upper spade]

Holy start.

[nova mantle]

i do remember i got the pants gold sticker in other deck,should have went with plasma for that one i see

[median grove]

pairs so so low!

[edgy stone]

Not every situations. I play high card most and when I get supernova, it's already strong

[random lark]

i'd still say 4oaks are better for both chip scoring and because they let you pivot to xmult easier

[humble gulch]

+mult doesn't work on plasma

[median grove]

i literally dont know how anyone plays a pair build

it scores so low???

[nova mantle]

id play high card only if i was running shoot the moon AND had a good source of chips, but in that situation id rather just play pairs

[median grove]

and its not a guarantee to get consistent planet cards

[humble gulch]

Scaling jokers and agressive leveling

[nova mantle]

high card builds are pretty unheard of tbf

[median grove]

but how do you get agressive leveling

its so random

unless you get the planet voucher

or blue seals

[humble gulch]

Blue seals or telescope

[median grove]

but its not guaranteed

[random lark]

pairs usually work better with supernova because of the extra chips

[nova mantle]

planet scaling and many xmults work wonders with a pair build

[humble gulch]

Also, you can always take a chips joker

[nova mantle]

jokers like supernova/blackboard/card sharp are some examples

[narrow scroll]

blue seals, burnt joker, astro, stuff like that

and scaling joker work wonders with it
green joker, ride the bus, constellation

[median grove]

is hologram a good pair joka?

[humble gulch]

Yes

[nova mantle]

yus

[humble gulch]

One of the best

[terse vale]

you know that there’s more to a hand than its base score right

[quaint rivet]

What do u guys suggest doing here

[rustic haven]

you need space for rare joker set money to $0 spectral right? (sry for dumb question i dont usually take it but i have vagabond)

[random lark]

good in general but better for pairs because pairs don't cate about deck bloat

[terse vale]

and this goes for every hand ever

[nova mantle]

hologram has inherent deck bloat when adding many cards, but if you play pairs you dont carea bout deck bloat

[edgy stone]

You have 30 high card hand play but still wanna switch to pair when u get supernova?

[narrow scroll]

hologram is an amazing joker for basically every build
i'd say even straight builds

[median grove]

so what cards should i add to my hand?

[humble gulch]

Too late, keep scaling wee

[median grove]

or does it not matter

are aces the best, in case i get scholar?

[random lark]

why would you play 30 high cards in a run

[terse vale]

you read this right

[humble gulch]

Doesn't matter

[terse vale]

if you’re playing straight or 4oak shrug

[random lark]

things with a seal

[median grove]

okay thanks

[nova mantle]

the rank doesnt really matter

[terse vale]

why would you want scholar

[nova mantle]

as long as you can draw pairs

[random lark]

at that point supernova would not be worth it because your target hand is better

[median grove]

so the voucher where i can buy cards in teh shop is actually really good with hologram?

[humble gulch]

He's asking about ranks in pairs

[terse vale]

oh we were talking about supernova oops

[nova mantle]

yes

[edgy stone]

Raised fist, cardsharp, reserve parking, square joker

[nova mantle]

that is the ONLY time that voucher is good lmao

[terse vale]

ya so why would one want scholar 😭

[nova mantle]

otherwise it just makes your shop worse

[humble gulch]

I don't know

[narrow scroll]

clearly you haven't heard of the blue joker technology

[nova mantle]

he has a cool look

[humble gulch]

Two chips per card are not worth...

[nova mantle]

mid chip scaling but i gotta nuke the shop

pretty goated actually

[stoic isle]

-# you should start calling it "academic"

[narrow scroll]

two chips for a dollar!

[humble gulch]

Bull scales faster because you have to reroll

[random lark]

raised fist: also works with pairs
card sharp: also works with pairs
reserve parking: also works with pairs and there are better options
square: also works with pairs

[terse vale]

sometimes its worth ..

like if blue joker is your only chips

[median grove]

what seals are the best?

is gold seal better than red seal?

[humble gulch]

I mean, with base deck, blue joker scalling is trash 💔

[terse vale]

and your xmult is solved

[rustic haven]

supernova over half right? it scales better even though its 5 less mult rn

[humble gulch]

Yes

[ancient gyro]

literally needed it for a7 plant against a stm build

[narrow scroll]

yeah but you don't have to hold onto the money and you can greed
although it is more passive scaling and not drastic

[terse vale]

they’re about the same

[random lark]

is a different story

[nova mantle]

it is a very rare instance tbf

[median grove]

true i guess red seal is way better for certain situations but pretty useless in others

[random lark]

usually blue or purple are best

[humble gulch]

I'd say gold seal is a lot better

[nova mantle]

but yeah, if you gotta have a contingency plan for photochad id guess its fair to have one for stm

[rustic haven]

drop vaga or burnt ante 7

?

[median grove]

also i know pairs need scaling but im on ante 2 and im scoring 200 when i need 2000 with base pair...

also its not that crazy that i havent leved up pairs because its only ante 2

[ancient gyro]

so is saying "hc doesn't need nova"

[median grove]

but you see what im saying

like when they're bad in the beginning, theyre really bad

[narrow scroll]

what level is it at

[nova mantle]

what level is your pair

[humble gulch]

Vagabond, you never sell burnt untill you find another xmult

[rustic haven]

23

[edgy stone]

Good with pair doesnt mean not good with high card

[nova mantle]

drop burnt

[narrow scroll]

probably the burnt

[humble gulch]

Guys, why not abstract?

[rustic haven]

hrm, fair point

pair covers abstract its at 24 mult

[nova mantle]

cause they didnt include em in the options
maybe its special

[rustic haven]

its not xd mb

[humble gulch]

Think outside the box

[random lark]

pairs give more chips than hc at very little cost

[rustic haven]

i just thought those would be best options bc its ante 7

[narrow scroll]

abstract is always special in my heart

[ancient gyro]

how much are you scoring per hand

whats the current boss blind

[rustic haven]

and they arent rlly useful this late

[humble gulch]

Pairs start three times better than high card

[rustic haven]

cant answer the 2nd, i dont pay attention, but im scoring around 80k+ just one hand

my constellation is 2.7

[ancient gyro]

i-

[rustic haven]

3.7*

sorry

[rustic haven]

i dont have the habit of keeping it in mind

[nova mantle]

you can check the next boss blind in the run info menu

[ancient gyro]

u can kill burnt or vaga, up to you

[rustic haven]

oh!

didnt know

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[rustic haven]

wheel, ez af

[humble gulch]

Abstract

[terse dock]

Probably burnt

[terse vale]

red seal can go pretty well with enhancements tho
great glass targets great lucky targets

[edgy stone]

Sometimes you only get pluto in the pack, and sometimes you face the needle without any pair

[nova mantle]

now you know

[terse vale]

just versatile

[narrow scroll]

vaga is always fun so i'd get rid of burnt
but i'm pretty sure you win either way

[rustic haven]

why u hate abstract sm, its ante 7 i dont rlly need either anymore

[nova mantle]

its pretty useful since you can prepare for a boss that can kill your run

[terse vale]

gold is good because it doesn’t need an enhancement to be great

[rustic haven]

i do ye

[terse vale]

its just money

[terse dock]

How do you not draw a pair in 2 discards

[humble gulch]

You're more likely to draw a pair than not drawing one ❤️‍🩹

[ancient gyro]

how many pairs have you played so far

[terse vale]

how do you need 2000 chips at ante 2 with one pair

[edgy stone]

Sometimes

[terse vale]

no you don’t 😭

[random lark]

if you get this kinda rng you are probably dying from tripping and falling

[terse vale]

no

[terse dock]

Then you misplayed

[ancient gyro]

idk if they can outscore vv yet

[rustic haven]

also only 3 rounds until last boss so i should just drop burnt i got it round 2 i think its gotten enough value loll

[humble gulch]

4 × 80k = 320k

[rustic haven]

16

[nova mantle]

luck straight outta a 1 leaf clover

[terse dock]

Sure its a possibility but you could also draw a straight flush every time you open a blind

[rustic haven]

i got supernova p mid game

[ancient gyro]

you can still whiff pairs

[random lark]

strush mentioned

[narrow scroll]

i mean if they get the banana they win that
scoring 80k rn
and 4 hands

[rustic haven]

im also just one shotting every blind anyway

[ancient gyro]

idk their deck composition or what not

[humble gulch]

With cavendish they hit 100k

[ancient gyro]

yeah but abstract is making up about half of their base mult atm

[narrow scroll]

plus 3 discards

[humble gulch]

Level 23 pair

[ancient gyro]

I mean you can just kill nova if u wanna have fun

ik

[rustic haven]

tru only 16 mult

lol

[ancient gyro]

holo abstract is 25

[humble gulch]

Well, I guess

[rustic haven]

im just thinking

[nova mantle]

it would be about a 3rd of their base mult then

[random lark]

ante 2 blue seal experience

[rustic haven]

what does burnt give me here

only 3 more rounds till last boss blind

[ancient gyro]

diminishing returns atp

[rustic haven]

lvl 23 pair vs 26 is not rlly

worth

[edgy stone]

Probably not because I always upgrade high card when I have chance just in case.

[rustic haven]

yeah im dropping burnt

[nova mantle]

it gives you the least outta all of them imo

[ancient gyro]

you can drop any 4 jokers and it wouldn't really change much

[humble gulch]

Two discards btw

[rustic haven]

yur

[terse dock]

You only have 4 burns left don't you

[ancient gyro]

the beauty of not dealing with yuri dependency builds

[terse dock]

That's 16 tarots with optimal vagabond

[narrow scroll]

easy win
might even beat vv in 1 hand if you get steels

[nova mantle]

nuked that 😭

[rustic haven]

xdd

[rustic haven]

LMFAO WHAT A USELESS FINAL BLIND

[ancient gyro]

might even beat gs vv

[random lark]

[rustic haven]

i dont even need to sell bc lvl 24 pair

and if i do

i just sell vaga

LMFAO

[terse dock]

shut up 💔

[humble gulch]

And the chances of not getting mercury are the same as not getting pluto

[dim thicket]

hell yeah

[terse dock]

elitist ass

[rustic haven]

me when i hate new players

LMFAO

[ancient gyro]

(none of your jokers are card scoring btw)

oh rip ping

[terse dock]

FYI purple stake has a 1.2 mil vv

[ancient gyro]

2.4m on plassma

[ancient gyro]

that's not card scoring

[dim thicket]

yeah the blind scaling from white to purple is kinda insane ;w;

[rustic haven]

dont need it

[nova mantle]

dawg 😭

[random lark]

i do not hate new players i was just surprised it was white stake

[terse dock]

to be frank Green Stake

[rustic haven]

?

why surprised

[nova mantle]

plasma purple stake vv

[rustic haven]

i could -1 ante for the shits

lmfao

[random lark]

run that could win higher stake is not on said higher stake

[rustic haven]

i lowkey might

[ancient gyro]

what was the ping for 🥀

[noble mango]

Holy moly i won handy deck using vagabond, blueprint brainstorm, burglar, fortune teller

[humble gulch]

Winning with additive mult it's so easy on white ❤️‍🩹

[rustic haven]

ah fair

[dim thicket]

oh yeah i forgot greeen stake mb -3-

[terse dock]

Youre fine

[rustic haven]

yall fuck it

im doing -1 ante

[narrow scroll]

two challenger blinds!

[noble mango]

Balatro is silly game you don't need to always play pairslop to win

[dim thicket]

it is the most consistent build in the game 🙂‍↕️

[nova mantle]

you finna get petroglyph and get an extra ante that would be funny af

[rustic haven]

😭

i dont think i have unlocked

tbh

[narrow scroll]

straightslop my beloved

[dim thicket]

there is not a single word in the dictionary that has not had slop added to it atp

[random lark]

one of these days i gotta get a high stakes win with full house

[ancient gyro]

old gs sloppy

[humble gulch]

I play three of a kind slop

[rustic haven]

praying double hit 20 mult :3

missed both but got 500k

:P

[ancient gyro]

money*

lucky card mult is generally a downside

[rustic haven]

whats highest misprint can give?

[ancient gyro]

23

[rustic haven]

i lowkey wanna drop abstract for it

it has holo

[nova mantle]

abandoned deck carrying straight runs ❤️‍🩹

[random lark]

is this due to lack of scaling

[nova mantle]

holo wouldnt do much with your planet level

[rustic haven]

i did it anyhow for the shits

[narrow scroll]

11.5 avg + 10
but since you've won the lottery six times that's basically 33 mult which is better

[terse dock]

Neither does the 7 mult

[nova mantle]

fair

[rustic haven]

i dont think i lose this no matter what ik thats like pretentious to say but

[ancient gyro]

scoring too fast has its own downsides such as that, less card digging, etc

[rustic haven]

[terse dock]

Be wary

Even on white overconfidence is still a slow and insidious killer

[rustic haven]

TRUE

me failing 7 black deck round 1's in a row

im not joking

that happened yesterday

[ancient gyro]

over a thousand hours in and occasional near blunders still occur from time to time

[terse dock]

It happens

[rustic haven]

gonna try to just play a random pair

prolly just wins no scoring yeah?

[narrow scroll]

i really need to work on my early game strats
i always lose runs in ante 1 or 2

[nova mantle]

id bet the game can hear what i say cuz when i call this, i am suddenly unable to draw a 4oak outta a deck with 15 aces

[dim thicket]

i fumbled ante 1 big blind earlier today bc i used all my hands and discards and couldn't draw a 5th club 😭

we all fumble sometimes

[rustic haven]

oh yeah nah this

yeah

[dim thicket]

my advice would be work on how you manage your early game income

[rustic haven]

4.1x on const then 3x on banana

[dim thicket]

that's usually the biggest difference between winning and losing

[rustic haven]

xd

[ancient gyro]

mine just comes down to miscalculating score averages when you have a build that doesn't have a visible score average per hand to calculate and line up blind requirements. all while maximizing card digging power

[narrow scroll]

i think i'm just too greedy
i hoard it like a ceo and never spent any on round 1

[terse dock]

12.3x mult

[dim thicket]

Damn that's usually the opposite problem i see lmao

but that is def something you could try and work on

[rustic haven]

wait

[random lark]

spending money on round 2 arcana pack

[terse dock]

Unless theres a pants or good xmult round 1 I just always Crack the buffoon

[rustic haven]

i could lowk play for this

[dim thicket]

yea stuff like that 😭

[rustic haven]

i drop vaga

[ancient gyro]

early game plays out more or less what you expect after 4 sf hours worth of playing it out

[dim thicket]

i do the same!

[nova mantle]

if you can reliably win ante 1 without any joker id say thats pretty good too

[random lark]

instead of just getting a +mult off the buffoon and building money for ante 2

[dim thicket]

it's not always the smartest thing to do but that's how i like to play and it works out fairly well for me on average

[terse dock]

Or a bus

[narrow scroll]

arcana packs are a trap and will kill me
instead i go for the obvious round 2 standard packs

[ancient gyro]

a couple a1 boss blinds generally forces you to have some form of scoring support

[random lark]

deck dependent

[nova mantle]

thats easily one of the best xmults for pairs

[terse dock]

Red card i dont like taking round 1

[rustic haven]

so this might be my highest scoring yet

without even popping blackboard

[ancient gyro]

I don't mind taking rc r1

[nova mantle]

oh yeah black is def getting crushed lol

[terse dock]

It's psychic damage for me

[narrow scroll]

yeah same
and then i lose the run because i had no +mult or any scoring

[rustic haven]

DAMNB

[nova mantle]

and plasma is too easy on the other hand

[rustic haven]

1.3 mil!!!

[terse dock]

I feel like I have to scale it but I know I shouldn't and it stresses me out

[rustic haven]

both glass broke 😭

[ancient gyro]

yeah, it has similar psychic damage as taking squimbo r1

[terse dock]

It's a good pick I just dont take it to save my sanity

[rustic haven]

brooo so close to cool number

ggez

[random lark]

plasma/abandoned/checkered/painted = easy jokerless ante 1
most other decks = possible but risky
black deck = getting out of earlygame simulator

[rustic haven]

easiest gold stake yawn yawn too ez

[narrow scroll]

plasma might be the deck that i find the most consistent for me just because of the early game

[nova mantle]

early obelisk be sitting its ass doing nothing for 2 antes too

[dim thicket]

squimbo = square joker right?

[terse dock]

Plasma is aids for me

[dim thicket]

sorry if that's a dumb question i am QUITE stupid lmao

[narrow scroll]

even if it falls off in later antes

[ancient gyro]

square jimbo

squimbo

[terse dock]

I usually am very good at converting tempo but my late game falls short

[random lark]

if only you got a run like this on gold stake
unfortunately you will get eternal rentals off of buffoon pack 1 forever

[rustic haven]

ive never been past red stake, ill decide whether i want to uninstall or not when i get there

[nova mantle]

i love painted cuz of the easier early game without the late game being completely ass

[rustic haven]

😭

[nova mantle]

unlike plasma

[terse dock]

While plasma does give you early tempo the late game just nukes me

[dim thicket]

okay ty

[rustic haven]

ooo i unlocked totem!!

[random lark]

because you can get carried by planets!!!

[terse dock]

Sorry for your loss

[dim thicket]

i love square dude round 1 personally

[rustic haven]

xD

[dim thicket]

getting a chip scaler that early goes kinda crazy

[rustic haven]

OO TRIO

[nova mantle]

yus

[dim thicket]

keep in mind i HATE searching for planets

[terse dock]

Any other chip scaler would do less psychic damage to me

[nova mantle]

painted is what black wishes to be like

[dim thicket]

my luck for them is AWDULLL

[rustic haven]

my worst deck.......

[terse dock]

at that stage at least

[random lark]

also someone said painted is a pair deck.and i hate them even though they're right

[humble gulch]

I like black deck

[terse dock]

Black is evil painted

[rustic haven]

I SUCK AT IT

3 hands is not it!!!

[dim thicket]

that's valid, especially if you're a fan of flushes or straights

[rustic haven]

no money ante 1 i swear

so hard

to get past ante 1

[terse dock]

Castle my beloved

[rustic haven]

i think im just ass tho

[terse dock]

even wee because pog wee pog

[ancient gyro]

plasma requires you to have something for the next 3 antes after that. checkered at least lowers the bar in the sense that you can still play normally.

all the while not getting punished for deliberately not buying anything as the derivative gameplay for a1 that you usually do in plasma

[flat tiger]

why is D6 Tag even a thing, even skip heavy low stake runs dont want to skip that

[ancient gyro]

I like him too, I was more focused on black deck since I had a profile dedicated to that one deck and almost that joker being my longest kept joker around

[rustic haven]

do i just go face here ngl

it feels way more safe than crazy

[terse dock]

Take for tempo

[dim thicket]

hell yeah

[terse dock]

Take crazy for tempo

Trust

[dim thicket]

square joker is that guy

[rustic haven]

OH ITHOUGHT U MEANT

im crying

[ancient gyro]

anaglyph d6s are pretty cool

[terse dock]

Ah well

[rustic haven]

😭

[terse dock]

Smiley is still fine tempo

15 on a 3oak

[rustic haven]

it feels more safe tbh

[flat tiger]

TBH relying on face card early is almost as bad as relying on straights lol

[terse dock]

Has a better midgame too

[nova mantle]

nebula is evil magic

[ancient gyro]

smiley is fine early. plant doesn't show up until a4

[rustic haven]

womp womp

im the face goat

i love faces

[nova mantle]

lwk nebula is a work of torture

[terse dock]

None of those win

[noble mango]

Chat

Help,
My vagabond gave me Temperance and Hermit

[random lark]

dies on ante 1 boss

[nova mantle]

sell them for money value

[rustic haven]

huh

[narrow scroll]

yeah
checkered deck has a easy early game and can set you up okay for later antes
although i still enjoy plasma for the free early game

[terse dock]

Nvm i forgot 2 pair was a hand

Kms

[rustic haven]

oh and popcorn

[noble mango]

But if i use them or sell them it disables my vagabon

[rustic haven]

easiest ante 1 black deck of my life wtf

[terse dock]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cum-1

[noble mango]

And i still have 6 hands left

[nova mantle]

if you only have vaga its a bummer

but if not then its no problem

[rustic haven]

i wanna...

WAIT

[ancient gyro]

checkered has 2 options to play while plasma has 1 option that's practically locked into as the "more optimal" play to work around its downsides

[rustic haven]

STONE CARD BUILD?>

ive never done!!!

[terse dock]

No

[rustic haven]

i kinda want to

[noble mango]

Fortune teller
+3 hand no discard guy
Vaga
Blueprint
Brainstorm

[rustic haven]

but white stake :(

[terse dock]

Save the seed and play it on blue deck for the stone build

[rustic haven]

grah

ok

[terse dock]

Black starts on blue stake effectively

[nova mantle]

eh, if vaga is gonna deactivate anyway then take as much money as you can

[rustic haven]

im skipping for money cuz im BROKE

[ancient gyro]

you're not going to like the horrendous limited digging and scoring power you're immediately brought up with on black deck

[nova mantle]

temperance then hermit

[noble mango]

Black deck when they find riff raff at shop 1

😇

[narrow scroll]

i think my favorite ante 1 joker for gs other than riff raff is probably just ride the bus
imo better than grimbo and constellation

[ancient gyro]

skipping on black deck is really dangerous

compared to other decks

[rustic haven]

no i meant

skipping shop

mb

[ancient gyro]

o

[rustic haven]

didnt specify xd

[terse dock]

Bus is better than grimbo

[nova mantle]

every deck when they find riff raff ❤️‍🩹

[terse dock]

Like almost alwaus

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[nova mantle]

i love me an early riff raff

[terse dock]

The only scenario I can think of is if you also have a burger

[rustic haven]

i got needle

[nova mantle]

rip

[ancient gyro]

technically you can still die in a1 with riff raff

[narrow scroll]

yeah i agree
i find that one playstyle more manageable though, my early game is really bad
i have a bad habit of not spending money until ante 2

[rustic haven]

nvm im oated

[noble mango]

Early riff raff who gave birth to photochad is lovely

[rustic haven]

too ez

[noble mango]

Ye even then sometimes some jokers just suck

[rustic haven]

DUSK

[nova mantle]

im more of a red card/grimbo/bus typa dude

crazy that those 3 are common

[terse dock]

Riff raff deciding to summon splash and sly joker ante 1 round 2

[ancient gyro]

the general plan for a1 that isn't plasma is to open buffoon pack and nab any other value/money gen that lasts for a couple antes

[ancient gyro]

it wouldn't be right for them to be any other rarity

[rustic haven]

easiest pearslop game again

[noble mango]

Pair pearadise

[terse dock]

pearslop

[rustic haven]

yes

[terse dock]

me when I move to uhh uhhh

[ancient gyro]

parislope

[terse dock]

Western China

[noble mango]

Pareislop

[rustic haven]

ok i lost...

[ancient gyro]

paris

oh

[narrow scroll]

i see how that'd be good yeah
is a ante 1 celestial pack okay? i feel like a saturn or a jupiter could go a long way

[rustic haven]

WAIT NVM

DUSK

i just play high card queen

ezpz

[noble mango]

Nah id win ahh moment

[rustic haven]

yur i clutch

[ancient gyro]

generally no, conditional scoring is not ideal and you're not guaranteed to get your given planet

[rustic haven]

THIS GAME DOESNT WANNA GIVE ME JOKERS THATS 3 SHOPS IN A ROW 0 JOKERS

[noble mango]

I forgot but what does bloker do again

[rustic haven]

😭

[ancient gyro]

a Saturn in shop is more worthwhile

[terse dock]

Paris is funnier but

[solid python]

yuri

[narrow scroll]

ahh okay

[rustic haven]

computer, take his yuri

[noble mango]

Can i post yuri

[ancient gyro]

buffoon pack has more overall options and less likely to whiff

[solid python]

NO DONT TAKE MY YURI

[ancient gyro]

and is also guaranteed in first shop

[analog mulch]

Lmao

[rustic haven]

ykw... computer, take his yaoi too

[terse dock]

How desperate were you

[dim thicket]

that's insane but even more insane is the eternal jolly AND delayed 😭

[terse dock]

Fuck did you take an eternal delgrat on blue for

[noble mango]

Delgrat eternal . . .

[solid python]

you've ruined my life how does that feel

[rustic haven]

goofy ahh discard count

[rustic haven]

[analog mulch]

It's was either eternal jolly or eternal photo

[noble mango]

What's the worst eternal joker

[analog mulch]

ON ABANDONED

[dim thicket]

like bro you already got rocket u do NOT need possibly the worst econ joker in the game ;w;

[ancient gyro]

showman

[analog mulch]

The delayed great came first, I was a little hasty tbf

[dim thicket]

really really depends but probably smth like showman or seance

[rustic haven]

how late is too late to grab burnt

[ancient gyro]

ante 7 ig

[dim thicket]

mmmm okay i see

[ancient gyro]

it depends

[terse dock]

Showman is the only one that harms you

[rustic haven]

drop drunkard buy both?

[noble mango]

Pareidolia ?
|| ||

[dim thicket]

apoliges if i come off as rude when i critique a run btw, its never mean spirited

[solid python]

egg
oh right temperance exists

[rustic haven]

the dusk chad synergy goes hard

[ancient gyro]

unconditional scoring don't care

[dim thicket]

nahhh i feel like on average paradoleia could give you more value

[ancient gyro]

pari has econ benefits

[terse dock]

Pareidolia is less likely to harm than showman

[analog mulch]

Wait a minute

[noble mango]

Splash still helps sometimes

Showman, well

[ancient gyro]

and doesn't immediately put your scoring at risk

[dim thicket]

i feel like in almost every situtation showman and seance are doing literally nothing to contribute

[noble mango]

How bout criminal guy that takes all your discards

[terse dock]

Séance may do nothing but showman does worse

[dim thicket]

burgalur?

hell nah

he goated

[ancient gyro]

showman harms your run if you don't have observatory and/or an excess amount of dumpster change

[rustic haven]

my 4 discard :(

[nova mantle]

it can be good plenty of times

[noble mango]

You get no discard the entire run

[ancient gyro]

we already said showman, next question

[noble mango]

Eternal burglar

[terse dock]

+3 hands

Free pairslop

[noble mango]

Fair ig

[rustic haven]

^

7-9 hands with pairslop

goated

[dim thicket]

i was about to adress that, showman can actually harm you by taking away your ability to block buttt can also sometimes give you an extra copy of something good. whether that's better or worse then having eternal seance do quite literally nothing, idk

up tot how you veiw things

[noble mango]

Is this person cool

↙️

[rustic haven]

yes

[nova mantle]

do i take him and look for uncommons

[rustic haven]

CHAT HELP

[nova mantle]

nah probably not right

[rustic haven]

nvm i win on highcard

[dim thicket]

no

[ancient gyro]

burger can be the most blue balls eternal depending on how early you decide to pick him up

[nova mantle]

yeah

[dim thicket]

very early, rental, and you have an eternal comon

[rustic haven]

NEGATIVE CARTOMANCER

HOT

[noble mango]

Eternal dice mmmm
Gamba

[dim thicket]

YOOO

[dim thicket]

is this in reference tot the question of worst eternal?

[ancient gyro]

same argument as pari

[rustic haven]

my issue is chips...

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[dim thicket]

bc if so i'd say in no world is it in the convo

[ancient gyro]

the question was already answered

idk what he's doing

[dim thicket]

like the worst that dice does is make the wheel boss (1/7 cards face down) and glass unlucky, but it does a LOT of positive things

[noble mango]

Ok no nvm
Reset

how you supposed to do non perishable challenge run

[ancient gyro]

pick up not shit jokers

[noble mango]

Since showman sucks as eternal

[rustic haven]

hanging chad & dusk with lucky cards = free wins

[ancient gyro]

pretty cut and dry on what you wanna do in that challenge

[noble mango]

And picking eternal oops all 6 first shop kinda ass choice

[dim thicket]

imo that's one of the easier challanges. just play safe and take consistent jokers

[flat tiger]

has the fun begins or is the suffering begins

[rustic haven]

drop anything? i have dusk and hanging so uh... x6?

[dim thicket]

and if you can on the off chance get madness then it's probably ggs on that

[rustic haven]

smiley drop yea?

[ancient gyro]

you're not gonna be given a scenario where that happens frequently

[noble mango]

Shouldn't take riff raff right?

[rustic haven]

SMILEY AND BLUE DROP?

[dim thicket]

if your levels are good drop blue if not drop dusk

[ancient gyro]

blue can die since you have burnt

[dim thicket]

Nope

[ancient gyro]

or dusky

[rustic haven]

not smiley?

i want both

[ancient gyro]

smiley is enabling your photoslop atm

[dim thicket]

dusk is better to drop then smiley

[noble mango]

You need flat mult before you multiply it

[rustic haven]

its holo

dusk is

[dim thicket]

lot of base mult that can get multiplied by photo

[ancient gyro]

which comes after your x8 photoslop

doesn't really help given your score timing

[noble mango]

Doesn't get multiplied
Except by polychrom

[rustic haven]

hrm fair

so dusk and blue?

[ancient gyro]

either one can die

[rustic haven]

or just take photo?

[flat tiger]

in bloodstone I trust, plasma deck begins

[dim thicket]

even if your hand base mult is 10, thats + 5 x 2 +5 x 2 +5 x 2 which is more then a 2.5x score addition on ALL hands with a face meanwhile dusk is just ONE extra 2 x

[ancient gyro]

both

[rustic haven]

ok ty

[rustic haven]

yeah fair

[noble mango]

What are shit jokers that i should not pick up in non perishable

[ancient gyro]

same jokers that are generally shit in normal game conditions

[rustic haven]

double tag

[dim thicket]

jokers that are specfic/inconsistent

[rustic haven]

i wont but

love double tag

[dim thicket]

baseball card, glass joker, blood stone, etc

[ancient gyro]

probably the most useless skip in the game

[noble mango]

But riff raff ain't

[rustic haven]

whats the deck that gives u double tag on boss win

[ancient gyro]

I've taken a lot of eternal riff raffs

[dim thicket]

you want to cast as wide a net as possible and focus on doing a safe build like scaling + and x mult

[rustic haven]

or was that a modded deck

[ancient gyro]

anaglyph

[noble mango]

Anaglyph

[dim thicket]

anaglyph

[rustic haven]

yeah

jeez

[ancient gyro]

anaglyph

[rustic haven]

😭

cant u just get like

[noble mango]

Anaglyph

[rustic haven]

20 negative jokers that way

[slow iris]

ante 1 eternal riff raff is worth

[ancient gyro]

if u wanna

[noble mango]

It lands on shit jokers mostly

[rustic haven]

true but

[humble gulch]

Well, two challenges left

[ancient gyro]

I don't really recommend it outside early stickering purposes, they're better spent on econ related skips

since econ is very versatile

[dim thicket]

that's not consistent at all and also if you can make it far enough to save a lot of tags you don't need to hamble on negative skip and it's way better to see shops

[ancient gyro]

in terms of run direction