🕹・game-discussion

[viral raft]

White stake impressed*

[sly girder]

lucky cards

[grizzled robin]

is a soldier really a soldier without his weapon

[ancient gyro]

naneinf tier list

[willow frost]

this guy has everything on speed dial lmao anytime someone says a good joker's bad they get hit with 14 screenshots in 2 seconds

[grizzled robin]

ye mb

fair enough then

[ancient gyro]

baron is the main scoring source for naneinf

[limber leaf]

Or ticket +gold

[barren wigeon]

so what youre saying is photo is hot ass without chad

[sly girder]

hate to break it to you, i did say that above

[worthy tinsel]

This is true

[limber leaf]

Oh im blind my fault

[grizzled robin]

both common jokers

[terse vale]

plant totally counters photochad anyways

[sly girder]

all good

[ancient gyro]

idol literally can't be naneinfd without bugs

[barren wigeon]

how does that disprove my point in the slightest

[frank grove]

not the question

[grizzled robin]

plant counters like 80% of builds..

[ancient gyro]

oh someone deleted their message

[sly girder]

or perkeo carry

[barren wigeon]

if youre shitty maybe

[grizzled robin]

yeah but very easy to get is my point

[viral raft]

Hanging chad without Photograph = really good and useful
Photograph without hanging chad = probably one of the worst x2mult jokers in the game

[ancient gyro]

no they don't lol

[sly girder]

ive naninfd with trib and perkeo

[terse vale]

I was testing you! you didn’t say that plant doesn’t counter photochad

[grizzled robin]

well

[terse vale]

also no

[grizzled robin]

huh?

[terse vale]

just bring glass for the plant

[frank grove]

yeah

[hexed tundra]

Most of the builds are made to play one specific hand...

That's a great idea, you need to have the jokers for the early game and mid late for that too, depends your initial build, but yeah, you get the point of scaling a lot a hand on purpose at the very start

[sly girder]

pairs. it's always pairs.

[grizzled robin]

but

[sly girder]

it's always been pairs

[wicked sonnet]

this run is busted asf

two soul cards

[sly girder]

it'll always be pairs

[brave goblet]

Least braindead ghost run

[willow frost]

i think the worst actually because all the others happen after cards

[viral raft]

the plant doesn't counters pair

[wicked sonnet]

and a bunch of new gold stickers

[sly girder]

✅

ALSO

It doesnt counter obelisk

full circle

[summer horizon]

I got the god tier straight build

[viral raft]

yeah, the score thingy literally ruins all mult jokers

[ancient gyro]

it counters face scoring jokers, that's about it. doesn't translate to 80% of runs, that's just limiting game mechanics to a specific vulnerability you're intentionally building

[limber leaf]

Techy

[brave goblet]

Plant doesn't counter luchador 🧠

[fiery nymph]

i also find it funny how trib completely outshines photograph

[worthy tinsel]

[grizzled robin]

but realistically if you stop picking up random jokers even on gold stake and build for face cards with photochad success rate is pretty high but take this with a grain of salt cause i dont play this game competitively like you guys do apparently

[barren wigeon]

Legendary vs Common btw

[fiery nymph]

idk many other jokers that are just simply better than the other honestly

[sly girder]

sell luchador for the verdant leaf

[willow frost]

me when using technology

[sacred maple]

Yooo I can feel it this run is gonna be the one I finally win on gold stake.

[fiery nymph]

i get that but still i find it funny

[worthy tinsel]

an easy to use idol that dies hard af against

[frank grove]

success rate of photochad on gold stake is not "very high" most gs players dont have photo in their top 10

[sly girder]

not every joker is good or bad, they are just situational

[limber leaf]

Sybau bruh🥀

[ancient gyro]

some more than others

[brave goblet]

photochad still dies if your econ tanks and you cna't get enough planet levels

[ebon condor]

there is technically no joker that is always better than another joker

[sly girder]

ante 1, greedy joker is better than baron 90% of the time

context is everything

[ebon condor]

even for agate vs. gluttonous, sometimes you want to underscore

[brave goblet]

Photochad (which is actually just chad) still beats plant with some glass cards anyway

[ancient gyro]

a lot of things are better than baron

[sly girder]

but yes, you're right

[ancient gyro]

that's too easy of an example

[sly girder]

some have more situations they're useful in than others

[brave goblet]

idol

[viral raft]

if you try to only play photochad theres going to happen 2 things
1: photo and/or hanging will have stickers who will weak you like rental or perishable or directly they won''t appear
2: the plant will just destroys you

[barren wigeon]

that is one of the things that isnt better than baron

[brave goblet]

Photochad is actually great when you have enough econ to accidentally roll into it when you got a different plan

[grizzled robin]

how often do you actually run into the plant like genuinely tho

[sacred maple]

Nah I'm fucked

[brave goblet]

skill issue

[wicked sonnet]

6 new gold stickers and that's all legendaries done

[viral raft]

i'd rather 1 scaling joker that photochad slop just becuase of consistensy

[grizzled robin]

you are saying like its going to happen 100%

[worthy tinsel]

and thres still the chance one of them never shows up

[frank notch]

only with rigorous deckfixing its good (and that wont happen until after ante 8)

[brave goblet]

realest

[sly girder]

i would say mail in rebate is really good a lot of the time, even with minimal deck fixing i can usually get 5$ out of it, however, if i have a burglar
it's not gonna be great anymore

[ebon condor]

if i had a level 20 pair id drop my scaling +multer for photochad

[grizzled robin]

no run ever has 100% success rate and its one of the ONLY weakness of photochad when the deck is literally commonpairslop

[limber leaf]

One of the only ones that are like always worse aswell lol

[brave goblet]

I've gotten several idol runs deckfixed enough to use for just ante 8

[grizzled robin]

and very easy to consistently play and get completed runs with

[ancient gyro]

mmm I put baron higher when it has like 2 total synergies

[terse vale]

I cannot believe this was me at once

[ancient gyro]

well duh

[sly girder]

idol is like

the worst joker in the game, no?

[brave goblet]

No

[limber leaf]

Usually yes

[grizzled robin]

like out of everything i said today i thought surely ppl would hate on this one the most

[ancient gyro]

showman

is by default harmful

[grizzled robin]

xd

[sly girder]

there are extremely few situations where i find myself picking up an idol

like gold stake?

[frank grove]

no, showman exists

[limber leaf]

Yeah

[sly girder]

i never pick up an idol

[ebon condor]

i mean ill be perfectly honest i have no idea what youre trying to communicate here

[sly girder]

i like showman though

he has a cool hat

[grizzled robin]

still A tier in endless runs

[viral raft]

"consistently" and you literally depends on 2 card to won the run (and without counting the card enhancements, planet lvls and bad discards)

[ancient gyro]

ante 8 gold stake buddy

[limber leaf]

Showman is good bruh

[barren wigeon]

who the hell said anything about endless in this scenario

[terse vale]

yeah true

[versed sable]

for ante 8? yeaa showman, not idol
for endless? probably just credit card or something

[terse vale]

in endless

[zinc sigil]

I need help like fucking help

[frank notch]

showman is necessary for endless

[barren wigeon]

stop talking about endless when saying how good a joker is

[terse vale]

:?

[frank notch]

to get more copier jokers

[grizzled robin]

ok? do i need permission to talk about endless you bum

[viral raft]

sure what happen

[limber leaf]

?

[sly girder]

credit card is my favorite joker on green deck for early game

[barren wigeon]

yes. ask papa before you talk about endless

[sly girder]

i just get a free 20 dollars

[ebon condor]

its kinda adds nothing to the convo tbf

[ancient gyro]

yes because endless has a total of 7 possible builds

[grizzled robin]

sowwy 🥺

[viral raft]

😭

[sly girder]

7?

[ebon condor]

say it if you want but youre kinda speaking to the void

[zinc sigil]

Please someone for gods fucking sake help me

[frank notch]

fella

[brave goblet]

Endless only has one build lmao

[viral raft]

gg wp

[brave goblet]

Naneinfing has a total of three possibilities

[ancient gyro]

which is a shitty kind of strategy game to play and discuss around

[viral raft]

or search for a luchador

[zinc sigil]

0g

[versed sable]

fair enough
endless is not green deck though, i generally think credit card is fine -w-

[zinc sigil]

I did

[grizzled robin]

ur making me look REALLY bad here...

[ancient gyro]

around that

[grizzled robin]

after the points i just made today

[terse vale]

endless needs a specific chat to itself lowkey

[ancient gyro]

server chat

[ebon condor]

what hand are you playing

[zinc sigil]

I NEED HELP ANY GOD TIER MATHMATICANS

[terse vale]

ohh 💭

[ebon condor]

and whats its level

[shell dagger]

hi

[brave goblet]

Make some glass cards and hope your planet levels can carry

[zinc sigil]

DOES 4x9 then 4x10 WIN

[brave goblet]

otherwise, you're cooked

[frank grove]

if you're playing highcard and your high card level is enough that glass 10 might get you close ... maybe?

[grizzled robin]

well again you guys are just overlooking the fact that theyre common jokers..? 😭 they will both appear at some point in the run with 1-2 econ jokers most of the time.

and before you say "most of the time", YES, most of the time, you guys arent expecting to win EVERY run eitherway

[zinc sigil]

Only way I see

[zinc sigil]

What do u mean bud

[frank grove]

there are stickers on gold stake, they can be perishable

[willow frost]

yeah it wins a score requirement of 76

[sly girder]

i think credit card is fairly useful on most decks (obviously endless if it isnt green needle, blueprint or baron/mine it doesnt matter) but as long as you're smart, you can find some good stuff and pivot outta debt

[zinc sigil]

😭

[grizzled robin]

well all other jokers that could be your lifeline might be perishable too

in whichever run you do

[zinc sigil]

Buddy this is a matter of national security we DONT joke

[barren wigeon]

grimbo

[willow frost]

not a god tier mathematician though so idk

[barren wigeon]

pants

ride the bus

[ebon condor]

well most runs arent looking for 2 specific jokers

[barren wigeon]

red card

[frank grove]

except non retroactive scales which are the backbone of gold stake??

[grizzled robin]

ride the bus 🤮

[viral raft]

i mean i try to win all my runs, not just drop a coin until my stupif generic build appears lmao, that's why theres 150 jokers.

[ancient gyro]

I plan to play with the intentions of winning every single run, not just the good ones. so I'll play and make decisions with this in mind. there has yet to be an unbeatable seed so what's the point of giving up a run because you didn't know any better

[frank grove]

Also a lot of people here have very decent gs streaks and do try to win every single run they play

[barren wigeon]

have you ever considered that balatro may not be for you

[worthy tinsel]

[grizzled robin]

LOOL

CHILL

[zinc sigil]

I reset every run I dont win ante 1 small blind in 1 hand

[fiery nymph]

didnt someone c++ without losing

[frank grove]

yeah

[fiery nymph]

doc

[frank grove]

a few people have now

[grizzled robin]

ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS 😭

[ancient gyro]

some ppl yeah

[grizzled robin]

all i did was call ride the bus bad

[fiery nymph]

HOW

[ancient gyro]

93 blue ws

[zinc sigil]

I dont like it either

[grizzled robin]

"your execution is scheduled for tomorrow"

[ancient gyro]

we don't do that here

[willow frost]

a few? who

[grizzled robin]

like chill guys!

[worthy tinsel]

No

[zinc sigil]

What is the joker with +1 mult hands played -1 mult discard I hate that one aswell

[nova mantle]

incantations carried this run ❤️‍🩹

[terse vale]

O why is it bad

[ancient gyro]

rule 10

[barren wigeon]

we are calling you bad at the game, I see no issue

[viral raft]

you're one of thoses players who only can play faces right?

[nova mantle]

chico too ig

[terse vale]

aww why to that too

[zinc sigil]

Im here.

[viral raft]

hi

[worthy tinsel]

I used to hate it too but I made peace with it time ago

[grizzled robin]

"only play" , and "what i want to play" are two different things but no

just most of the time its my go to

[zinc sigil]

I have to discard for good hand no? 😭

[terse vale]

i’m not on anybody’s side here but they did say plant counters 80% of builds

[grizzled robin]

ok again i was under the impression

we were talking about endless

ther e

so mb

[terse vale]

but what if you don’t need big hands!

small hands can work too

[zinc sigil]

I have like 20hrs in the game and I still feel clueless

[nova mantle]

endless is not very popular here tbf

[terse vale]

I ssseeeeeeeee

[grizzled robin]

yeah i can tell that now 👍

[ancient gyro]

when you get into gs ws, your most used jokers happen to be some form of unconditional scoring.

[nova mantle]

mostly cause mime brainrot is the only viable way to get naneinf

[zinc sigil]

First time I get baron and mime together and im cooked 🙁

[terse vale]

small hands are easier to draw, so usually those builds they’re carried by jokers

[viral raft]

i mean if you only want to play faces you're just playing a fraction of the game lmao, is like the idea of just play flush until i won the run

[zinc sigil]

Whats the 4 cards +4 chips joker, its so bait

[grizzled robin]

ive goldstaked on a few decks and gotten naneinf and i know all jokers... im not saying m good but if im not atleast ok then who is

[terse vale]

like, pairs have a lot of synergies, is easy to play, and has fine chip scaling for what it is

[terse vale]

just so you know not all 4 cards need to score

[ancient gyro]

localthunk

[barren wigeon]

youve gold staked a few decks and gotten naneinf

how is this "good"

[grizzled robin]

omg

read

you actual npc

READ

[barren wigeon]

you dont have C+ or C++

[grizzled robin]

😭

[ebon condor]

i sucked when i had c++ gs completions dont mean much

[zinc sigil]

I know but my highest was like 140 chips past ante 4 does that even matter anymore

[barren wigeon]

if im not good who is

[grizzled robin]

read my message again then get back to me mate

[barren wigeon]

localthunk

[grizzled robin]

if im not atleast ok then who is

you npc

[barren wigeon]

anyone with C++

drspectred

[ancient gyro]

localthunk

[zinc sigil]

Relax bud

[barren wigeon]

anyone with C+

[terse vale]

also it works well with pairs, best hand in the game
and even if you’re not doing pairs its still to get your chips up a bit I bet

[grizzled robin]

but hes ragebaiting

[worthy tinsel]

tbh you really start to get good when doing c++

[viral raft]

i have c++ in 3 files

hi

[zinc sigil]

Spiking ur cortisol

[terse vale]

thats really good tho?

[barren wigeon]

nobody is ragebaiting youre just bad and getting angry about it

[grizzled robin]

i just dont play the game enough to get c++ but i promise you i could

[barren wigeon]

do it

[willow frost]

these dont make you good btw as i learned immediately after getting c++ lol

[grizzled robin]

but you are 6/15 and acting like balatro is a competitive game?

[zinc sigil]

But past ante 4 does it matter , im really bad still genuine question

[grizzled robin]

and youre calling me bad because of my playstyle

[barren wigeon]

im also not good but im not acting like im good

[grizzled robin]

im not acting like im good either

genuinely where did i imply that bro

[barren wigeon]

im not acting like my word is law of the land

[grizzled robin]

but where did i say im good in this whole convo

[ancient gyro]

I think yeahitschips had a good growth arc

[ebon condor]

you know what i dont agree with you but i have to say this was funny

[grizzled robin]

i said im ok just now and that was only to defend myself after you call me bad

[nova mantle]

he made a statement so ass even his gang clowned on him

[ebon condor]

i believe they could get c++

[frank grove]

Doc famously did, theres a whole playlist of every run. And i think KaiCtv has as well ?

[ebon condor]

you dont need to be good to get c++

[grizzled robin]

anyone who plays this game for long enough can

[zinc sigil]

Guys what is c++

[willow frost]

ah sick

i only know of doc's one

[terse vale]

yes! chips are used for balancing out the score

[viral raft]

100% the game

[terse vale]

you need a healthy diet of chips AND mult

[frank grove]

Kai recently did all gold stickers in 11hrs 44 mins

[barren wigeon]

then do it

[grizzled robin]

hence why i said

not a competitive gmae

[worthy tinsel]

Yeah you need at least 3 c++

[humble gulch]

You already won with madness and shoot the moon

[zinc sigil]

Didnt he do that with 0 losses doc

[ebon condor]

i dont believe they could get a high gs winstreak playing the way they do

[viral raft]

yes!

[grizzled robin]

for example i completely mog you in actual competitive multiplayer games but you are acting like youre a good for being 6/15 whatever that is

[willow frost]

what the fuck how

[viral raft]

he did

[viral raft]

that's crazyyyy

[grizzled robin]

and trying to ego me i actually need to find what its called when you think you are better than someone at something so you passively clown on them

[frank grove]

Yeah if you have 13 hours at some point watch that vod ITS WILD

[nova mantle]

it is competitive mind you, im chicot III in ranked

[frank grove]

did it in 39 wins

[barren wigeon]

you're flexing being good at competitive multiplayer games in the balatro discord server

congrats bro

[grizzled robin]

well yeah after you are calling me bad for playing face cards completely uncalled for

whos the real toxic bitch in this situation

[ancient gyro]

tbf I don't really gloat to other ppl for doing c++ 7 times in various challenging methods. i just speak what I know from 2 years of experience and playing at the highest skill level the game has to offer

because discussing the game is fun

[viral raft]

i mean all of us ar calling u ar bad at ts 😭

[willow frost]

i have nowhere near 13 hours so ill just skim through it, thats insane

[limber leaf]

Broo im stuck in cavendish 2 man😭

[barren wigeon]

im ragebaiting without even trying 😭😭😭

[terse vale]

[grizzled robin]

because i made some half-joking statements as an endless face cards enjoyer

you guys took it so seriously it was funny

[zinc sigil]

Play multiplayer with them right now and stream it

[grizzled robin]

i didnt know you took it to heart

[barren wigeon]

dude is so pressed im crine

[ancient gyro]

but if the game has been the same for 2 years, I'm sure at least a few ppl will have honed their skills on the game to the point where it's easy to call something out as true or outlandish

[nova mantle]

gotta get in that michel grind

[grizzled robin]

ragebait detected 🤖

[ancient gyro]

this happens every other day, it's not that big of a deal

[limber leaf]

Yh u right

[barren wigeon]

im not even ragebaiting youre just angry

[grizzled robin]

i know but i actually thought we were all just having fun

[humble gulch]

Free win

[grizzled robin]

like wtf

[ancient gyro]

im having fun

[grizzled robin]

ye me too

[nova mantle]

fella got mad you got a 6/15 in yo name 😭 im crine bruh

[barren wigeon]

same!

[grizzled robin]

till this guy started bullshitting

and larping

[ancient gyro]

why else would I talk about gs every single day

[ancient gyro]

huh

[ebon condor]

this server has kinda a culture of discussing the meta for the game and if you bring up something that is absurdly off-meta without reasonable justification, especially if you start getting defensive about it, people will clown on you

[terse vale]

you may use twitter too much

[barren wigeon]

just mad to be mad fr

[zinc sigil]

How do you make that joker work, isnt it really hard to navigate through the game with it

[grizzled robin]

dont have it at all

[ebon condor]

not saying thats a good thing its just how this server is

[eager summit]

ye :3

[viral raft]

i mean you're the one who's larping faces xd

[grizzled robin]

MB FAIR POINT G

[limber leaf]

If u has that in any other stake nope

[nova mantle]

you of all people talm about larping 💔

[humble gulch]

Absolutely not, I don't have to think at all, take good eternal joker, level up pair or something like that

[viral raft]

my name is The Papu, not G

[terse vale]

I try not to clown
I do like having actual discussions! I atleast try to instead of spamming the white stake emoji

[viral raft]

:D

[barren wigeon]

the term is hidden in plain sight

[zinc sigil]

I see that makes sense thank you

[terse vale]

quick what does larp stand for

[ancient gyro]

i still don't know what that word means

[zinc sigil]

Me

[grizzled robin]

what am i role playing

[barren wigeon]

live action roleplay!

[worthy tinsel]

I'm having fun

[tender lotus]

WHERE IS THE PHOTO DAMMIT>

[ebon condor]

yah im not saying everyone does its just kinda the general culture

[terse vale]

live action role playing !

[grizzled robin]

face cards arent bad by any means...?

[terse vale]

L.A.R.P.

[terse vale]

I mean

[nova mantle]

madness lwk carries your scoring so you only gotta get an eternal chips and mult jokers, maybe an econ too but otherwise its pretty free

[zinc sigil]

Next shop

[ancient gyro]

i just wait until ppl use the word long enough and maybe the context clues will solve itself

[terse vale]

kinda yeah

[ocean relic]

How do you get past ante 24 without perkeo

[limber leaf]

That is one handsome man right there

[ebon condor]

on goldstake, theyre not amazing for winning consistently

[viral raft]

fair enough

[nova mantle]

it can be hard to get good eternals at times so its def not the easiest joker to use

[grizzled robin]

ye except i actually used it correctly

[tender lotus]

i lost that run.

[barren wigeon]

baron mime and a lot of copy jokers

[grizzled robin]

in the context but np

[ancient gyro]

so like one piece

😀

[zinc sigil]

So maybe the blue joker with remaining cards 2x chips?

[zinc sigil]

Gg wanna see the run I dont wanna finish

[ebon condor]

you can get high scores n such, but you only need 400k to win, not e16

[terse vale]

basically

[ancient gyro]

the only relevant vouchers you need are paint brush, retcon, antimatter, and overstock (preferably). ideally, dodging planet voucher and tarot tycoon is best to avoid extreme shop bloat. 44 red seal steels on the final hand for burger tech.

e70ish scoring for ante 24 boss. burger tech earlier than that likely kills boss blind too fast for naneinf.

joker requirements are 4 copies of bp/bs, baron mime, rebate, parking, or ticket depending on farming strat, dna ante before point scoring is required and ante 24, cola sells for voucher skip and reduce rng.

money should usually always be in the 4 figures. spend about half as much as you make each round when you're not at risk of dying.

[worthy tinsel]

It will not appear after ante 8

[humble gulch]

Completely free win, now I have to think even less 💔

[nova mantle]

yes! it doesnt gotta be the greatest but just decent at its job

[viral raft]

peak detected

[ocean relic]

I had 4 barons and 3 mimes and a full hand of red seal steel kings and was still off by like e15

[grizzled robin]

i had a really good gif about this one but it wont let me send it.

[zinc sigil]

I hate green joker idk how to play it

[tender lotus]

NK7GSPWP here the seed there was a photo earlier btw but i anked.

[barren wigeon]

were you on plasma deck

[nova mantle]

you can either get your chips and mult from planet levels or jokers tho

[ocean relic]

Yes

[zinc sigil]

So u wont get one regardless right

[humble gulch]

Level up pairs or high card and don't discard, that's all

[ancient gyro]

you weren't here during

the incident

[nova mantle]

so if you manage, you would theoretically only need madness and an econ solution to buy planet cards

[ancient gyro]

before then it was a free world

[grizzled robin]

what happened?

a raid?

[tender lotus]

what no u get a photo second shop and chad first shop

[zinc sigil]

What about that one robbery joker with no discards 3 hands ? Thats perfect no?

[viral raft]

what incident 😭

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[zinc sigil]

But u cant ank then so u dont get ballots right

[humble gulch]

Extra scalling

This is just absurd

[tender lotus]

ig

[barren wigeon]

lots of hands are useless for high antes (unless its the serpent)

[viral raft]

NAAAAH

COOKED

[zinc sigil]

Insane

[nova mantle]

TAS level luck holy shit

[limber leaf]

My fav joker bro

[ancient gyro]

a gif free chatter was ruined by ||idk||

[viral raft]

sad

https://giphy.com/gifs/v1-ultrakill-when-hakita-brings-home-fraud-Kz7MuwEJpmqM4pabf9

for some reason i can send this gif

lmao

[safe loom]

ultrakill mention?

[ancient gyro]

thunk just said no to dot gif embeds

[nova mantle]

when hakita brings home fraud

[terse vale]

The Ping?

[ancient gyro]

so you can still send gifs, just not with the easiest alternatives

[viral raft]

when hakita brings home arm

[ancient gyro]

the ping of 25

[grizzled robin]

aw man

[humble gulch]

Yeah, this is as free as it gets

[grizzled robin]

but gifs are how i Defend Myself, During Internet Arguments!

like like

[safe loom]

what if? : verdant leaf

[worthy tinsel]

Do highcards instead of pairs

[viral raft]

nothing happens*

[humble gulch]

I just win, I don't use cards, what do you mean

[grizzled robin]

holy tuff

[slow iris]

why would they need to worry about verdant

[fiery nymph]

pairslop doesnt use the cards

[nova mantle]

if your chips come from planet levels verdant leaf isnt doing much

i would be more worried about the eye/the needle

[ancient gyro]

what does leaf do currently

[grizzled robin]

if your chips come from planet cards, what are you without them?

[safe loom]

mb verdant leaf keeps killing my runs

idfk how

[fiery nymph]

the real problem is vessel

[viral raft]

idk i play square or runner

:D

[safe loom]

vessel easy

[ancient gyro]

try using "on joker" scoring or planet source chips

[edgy stone]

Crimson also killer

[zinc sigil]

What are u guys even arguing about

[grizzled robin]

no its a meme

[safe loom]

kk

[nova mantle]

with how much mult theyre gonna get on that madness, pretty sure vessel is getting wiped lmao

[grizzled robin]

socrates

wtv

[ancient gyro]

vv is the only major threat for a8 gs pair slop

[fiery nymph]

idk the build im talking about pairslop in general whoops

[ancient gyro]

assume its a8 gs if ydk

[slow iris]

Violent Vessel

[viral raft]

yes i know the IA videos with socrates appearing in literally all the videos yapping

[zinc sigil]

I have a real ass question what deck do I win with 4 jokers on

[slow iris]

painted

[nova mantle]

oh yeah, pairslop gets nuked otherwise lol

[zinc sigil]

I‘ll check it out

[nova mantle]

painted lulz

[ancient gyro]

prob the deck that has 4 joker slots by default

[safe loom]

yall play builds?

[viral raft]

pair

[ancient gyro]

I don't look for them

[zinc sigil]

That does make sense

[viral raft]

and i also play two pair

[ancient gyro]

but generally I keep pairs open

[frank grove]

Yeah

[viral raft]

and sometimes i play pair

[nova mantle]

painted is very comfy early game

[viral raft]

but mostly pair

[nova mantle]

the extra hand size sure does wonders

[safe loom]

fortune doesnt favor the WEAK

[ebon condor]

i exclusively play balatro but my jokers and deck and hand levels are randomized every blind thats what really gets me playing

[zinc sigil]

Yea I need the invis joker still so I will try my luck

[ancient gyro]

pairs just so happens to work with the most amount of jokers for the 14/15 decks that are in the game

[edgy stone]

What hands good for paint?

[nova mantle]

good luck then

[safe loom]

none dont play painted

[viral raft]

straight, 3oak, pair, pair and even more pair

[frank grove]

also dont take negative jokers if you're trying to unlock invis you cant have more than 4 at any point iirc

[zinc sigil]

[terse vale]

my favorite part about painted is how it makes big hands viable while also making the game harder, but not making it feel unfair to the average player (I hope) unlike black deck

[zinc sigil]

Yes sir

[ancient gyro]

pair, 2 pair, straights are usually the first to come in mind

[nova mantle]

you can get bigger hands working thanks to the extra hand size

[tranquil oasis]

😔

[zinc sigil]

Me irl

[nova mantle]

tho tbh, the only big hand thats viable are straights

[frank grove]

I love straights

[ebon condor]

4oak sometimes

[ancient gyro]

painted decks downside generally forces you to keep non joker scoring sources into mind more frequently

[nova mantle]

straights in abandoned deck ❤️‍🩹

[zinc sigil]

I tried straights with like 6 straights jokers and lost

[ancient gyro]

via planets/enhancements/deck fixing/etc

[frank grove]

this is why i play abandoned almost all the time

[nova mantle]

abandoned was my first ever gs

[safe loom]

people play abboandoned?

[slow iris]

i'm almost done with painted++ i only have 4 jokers left

[grizzled robin]

LOOOL

[zinc sigil]

How much mult?

[safe loom]

WHAT?

[halcyon juniper]

yall wanna see me send a message in #ceremonial-dagger

I say deviously

[slow iris]

sure

[zinc sigil]

Does blueprint copy poly?

[slow iris]

nop

[halcyon juniper]

alright wish me luck :3

[frank grove]

yeah its probably my most played deck second to zodiac

[slow iris]

can't copy editions

[zinc sigil]

Ok thanks

[safe loom]

how????

[viral raft]

wow a new channel, i'll start a conversation

[nova mantle]

the description may make it seem underwhelming but the smaller deck size makes it very comfy for deck fixing

and pulling hands like 4oak/straights is much more practical

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[frank grove]

Yeah, opens things up a little bit more since you have a head start on deck thinning

[nova mantle]

overall one of the best decks

[zinc sigil]

Is abandoned the one with no facecards?

[viral raft]

is one of the best decks

so yeah

[viral raft]

yep

[safe loom]

dam

[halcyon juniper]

yes good idea lets conversate in the channel that specifically says do not message :3

[nova mantle]

yes

[zinc sigil]

Im smart u see.

[humble gulch]

The plant kills me, gg

[ancient gyro]

abandoned is the most hand agnostic deck

[limber leaf]

Best combo ever abandoned +eternal photo

[safe loom]

i need to hop on abbandoned

[viral raft]

free money 🔥

[humble gulch]

WHY DID I WROTE KISS

[limber leaf]

Idk if u can handle ts

[ancient gyro]

I made it work, I don't see why not

[limber leaf]

Corrects to what u want rn

[humble gulch]

This is too much

[frank grove]

Yeah abandoned doesnt mean no face cards ever just less access to immediate face cards

[limber leaf]

I have too strangely enough

[ancient gyro]

it's not that strange

[zinc sigil]

Oh its so tempting

[nova mantle]

matador in a boss that works ❤️‍🩹

[limber leaf]

IKRR

[nova mantle]

free interest cap

[humble gulch]

FINALLY

[tranquil oasis]

I’m really tempted to make an alt for the ceremonial dagger channel

[ancient gyro]

omg chips 🗣️

[nova mantle]

its eternal too lmao

[zinc sigil]

How much do u score

[humble gulch]

300,000

[zinc sigil]

Isnt 10 chips and 4 mult basically nothing at ante 7

[humble gulch]

With card sharp

[humble gulch]

Stickers

[sly girder]

gold

stick

[ancient gyro]

im pretty sure it just ip bans you

[nova mantle]

how many are you missing from c++

[tranquil oasis]

😔

[zinc sigil]

What does that mean im so sorry

[fiery nymph]

i forever hate it because i almost got a jimbo sticker it was the only boss that countered me

[nova mantle]

im guessing this is your second c++

[humble gulch]

Yeah, let me check

[ancient gyro]

and this can result in account termination due to ban evasion or whatever

[sly girder]

when you beat ante eight on any stake, it puts that difficulty stikcer on your joker

you see how their gold joker has a gold sticker?

that means they beat gold stake

[zinc sigil]

And thats for completing the game I see

[frank grove]

I want to do a fun c++ challenge at some point but idk what to do, chat give ideas

[safe loom]

what are you people on abt😭

[slow iris]

plasma++

[humble gulch]

Seven jokers

[sly girder]

yeah, c++ is a badge that means you did that for all jokers

[nova mantle]

when you get to ante 8 in a gold stake run every joker you were using that run gets a gold sticker, and theres an achievement for getting al 150 of them stickered

[frank grove]

hmm...

[slow iris]

plasma gold stake but every blind is violet vessel

[zinc sigil]

But do u only want gold stickers or all stickers

On every deck?

[sly girder]

gold stickers override the lower ones anyways

[ancient gyro]

throwbackless++

[sly girder]

so it doenst matter

[nova mantle]

so goated

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[humble gulch]

I'm doing Bloodstone++

[frank grove]

eternal rental throwback in every single run ...

[zinc sigil]

So only gold to complete?

[sly girder]

yep

[zinc sigil]

I see

[slow iris]

highcardlesspairlessthreeofakindless++

[ancient gyro]

even worse (allegedly)

[zinc sigil]

8x15 wins and then u need to play 150 jokers wtf

[safe loom]

WHAT DOES A '++' MEANNNN

[harsh relic]

eggs

[ancient gyro]

no savescumming

[sly girder]

pairless is impossible

[safe loom]

HELP

[zinc sigil]

How many games is that

[nova mantle]

does a c++ count if "unlock all" is used? ive been tempted to get another one but i dont wanna farm another royal flush to get brainstorm 💔

[frank grove]

two pair allowed?

[sly girder]

for gold stake?

[ancient gyro]

im doing it rn, I can tell you it's not that hard

[slow iris]

yes

[zinc sigil]

Yea

[sly girder]

id prolly explode

[willow frost]

is it?

[slow iris]

you won't get the achivement

[sly girder]

idk i feel like im really reliant on pairs

[slow iris]

that's all

[frank grove]

pairless isnt impossible

[sly girder]

it's just so easy

[serene forge]

remove bloodstone form the game

[ancient gyro]

pairless++ is just what 1.0 gs was like

[humble gulch]

YES

[sly girder]

yeah that checks out

[ancient gyro]

hc with a side of 2 pair

[sly girder]

but blue seals are the most busted thing in the game

[humble gulch]

Who's checking me

[zinc sigil]

Guys how do you play that green dagger with the joker destroying I dont get the point of it

[nova mantle]

i already got it so guess ill start another one

[ancient gyro]

and just flip flopping around it

[safe loom]

what?

[sly girder]

uh me? im confused on the question

[zinc sigil]

Do you stack egg for it first is that the point?

[ancient gyro]

it's one of them, that still works on 2 pair

[sly girder]

i was talking about something else

[ancient gyro]

and higher ranking poker hands

[zinc sigil]

The one joker u get +mult for sell value

[humble gulch]

[serene forge]

kill random garbage you find for scaling mult

[safe loom]

idk?

[sly girder]

no duh

sorry

but obviously

[safe loom]

the challenge?

[serene forge]

egg/gift card help but aren't necessary at all

[sly girder]

pairs are just super easy to build towards

[zinc sigil]

I‘ll check one sec

[safe loom]

[serene forge]

I hate The Tribe

[humble gulch]

Verdant leaf kills me, gg

[safe loom]

fortune favors me trust

ive pulled 10 souls this week

[zinc sigil]

Can u sell madness

[slow iris]

no walkie talkie action :(

[humble gulch]

I'm joking, i'm twoshoting it

[nova mantle]

give it random stuff for mult, if you get an egg you can hold it for a bit and then give it to dagger when you need the mult

[zinc sigil]

err

[sly girder]

eh

photo is a very very okay joker

maybe a little bad

[zinc sigil]

But u can put it to the right so it wont destroy anything?

I dont like photo

[nova mantle]

when i dont need mult anymore i place it the the far right or besides an eternal so it doesnt destroy anything

[nova mantle]

yes

[zinc sigil]

2x mult with no setup is nothing no

[nova mantle]

this is very advisable as once it ate my x5 canio and ive been heartbroken ever since

[sly girder]

truth bomb

[zinc sigil]

LOL

[humble gulch]

Free stickers

[zinc sigil]

is canio the destroy cards joker

[nova mantle]

5 to go now 🙏

[sly girder]

GGs

[safe loom]

kinda

[humble gulch]

Win with every joker that's left at the same time 🔥 🔥 🔥

[nova mantle]

yup, x1 for every face card destroyed

[safe loom]

theres a few i think

[sly girder]

what you got left?

[zinc sigil]

U need trading card then right

[sly girder]

you dont need it, but it works

you can destory via glass or hanged man or immolate

[zinc sigil]

Spam hanged man ?

[serene forge]

I love Canio

[nova mantle]

either that or hanged man, it also has a sinergy with pareidolia so every card destroyed counts as a face card

[zinc sigil]

I see

[sly girder]

pretty muchb

[zinc sigil]

Parei who

[humble gulch]

Mad joker, Stone joker, Cola, Flower pot and Icecream

It's possible

Black deck action

[sly girder]

true

yikers

[nova mantle]

this fella

[zinc sigil]

Ahhh

All cards are facecards

WAIT

[nova mantle]

yes

[zinc sigil]

THATS SO SMART

UE GENOUS

[humble gulch]

I'll try

[glad aspen]

Love this guy, what a cutie

[zinc sigil]

Whats the joker that gains mult for every added card

[humble gulch]

Thank you

[nova mantle]

its so goated when you first realize things like this

[zinc sigil]

Its only good with stone card joker no

[sly girder]

ping me if you get that to work

i wanna see that

[glad aspen]

💘

[nova mantle]

hologram

[zinc sigil]

I hate it

[nova mantle]

its one of the best xmults

[zinc sigil]

WHAT

[humble gulch]

Bloodstone haters be like

[nova mantle]

why tho

[zinc sigil]

isnt the best strat to delete cards

[sly girder]

but uh

[humble gulch]

Pairs

[versed sable]

hologram my ghost deck goat

[zinc sigil]

So counterintuitive

[sly girder]

i like bloodstone

[glad aspen]

I LOVE BLOODSTONE N HATE PAIR SLOP

[sly girder]

and space joker

[humble gulch]

Me too

[versed sable]

alternatively, big number

[sly girder]

and hallucination

and

every chance based joker

[primal stirrup]

Yes But considering the best hand to play is typically pairs, it doesn’t usually matter all that much

[sly girder]

because balatro is very luck based obviously

[nova mantle]

if you play pairs you dont depend on deckfixing too much, so you can play kinda whatever

[primal stirrup]

And it’s strong enough that you don’t necessarily have to add every card you see

[nova mantle]

it is a good point tho, many people dont like it because of deck bloat and having too many cards

[humble gulch]

I'm sorry, I thought you were one of those heartless monsters

[zinc sigil]

Idk how to play pairs

[sly girder]

deck bloat is propaganda for people that dont like pairs

[grizzled robin]

hol on 1s

[nova mantle]

agreed

[glad aspen]

Absolutely not

[grizzled robin]

i think we got a simliar

one

[nova mantle]

tho a good 4oak run is lovely from time to time

[zinc sigil]

Im a facecard andy

[sly girder]

certificate, hologram, marble

give me all of the cards

[nova mantle]

incantation 🙏

[sly girder]

and uh

the ace one

that i dont remember

and cryptid

[humble gulch]

They insult bloodstone as if it were a lighthearted joke

[sly girder]

and the face card one

that i dont know

[humble gulch]

i'll stop with the heart jokes

[sly girder]

ahhhhhh

see what you did there

[sly girder]

no no, good joke

just follow your

[noble mango]

scholar activates on ace

[sly girder]

heart

[humble gulch]

[glad aspen]

Dont even joke lad

[primal stirrup]

Grim? and the face card one is familiar I think?

[noble mango]

bloodstone doesn't want to

[grizzled robin]

🥱

[zinc sigil]

What is the other stone card that does gives u mult for spade/diamonds/clubs/hearts

[grizzled robin]

Fuck all photochad haters.

[sly girder]

that sounds correct

[zinc sigil]

Whats the third one

[noble mango]

ah yes photochad

[zinc sigil]

Idk the name

[frank grove]

do i?

[sly girder]

it hits stuntman

[humble gulch]

From heart to heart, I wont do it again

[frank grove]

stuntman hit is very bad

[noble mango]

gamble that brainstorm

or die to stuntman

[humble gulch]

[sly girder]

i wanna thank you

from

[zinc sigil]

the third on copies the left most joker how do I get it

[frank grove]

🔥

[sly girder]

the bottom of my heart

[sly girder]

Nicee

best hit

[noble mango]

holy

[grizzled robin]

its brainstorm

[versed sable]

discord Royal flush

[grizzled robin]

let me check how u get

[zinc sigil]

No way thats so evil

[nova mantle]

ancient joker?

[sly girder]

spam reset on checkered

[versed sable]

it's
pretty easy

[grizzled robin]

i cant check

[sly girder]

and then discard a royal flush

[zinc sigil]

Yes I that one, is that only good in multiplayer or am I just stupid

[sly girder]

whenever you draw it

[zinc sigil]

Cause skipping isnt good right

[noble mango]

discard a royal flush

but blueprint also copies a card and you justneed to win a game

[sly girder]

it's kind of complicated

[nova mantle]

if you get it early on it can be a free win with proper deckfixing

the only time flushes are worth playing imo

[primal stirrup]

Nah it’s fairly easy, you can just start runs on the checkered deck, keep using your hands n discards to get a royal flush to discard. If you don’t get it, just restart your run

Or try to do it naturally

[humble gulch]

Don't let anyone play at all with your heart, It may seem like they'll shoot the moon, but it's all in your head

[frank grove]

here win

[primal stirrup]

Whatever you prefer

[zinc sigil]

If I only have hearts does it still go to other suits

[sly girder]

i feel as though i

i cant

i dont have anymore

[versed sable]

if your deck isn't all one suit then the only real issue is lack of hand levels, and suit bosses

[zinc sigil]

Ive only played blue and plasma deck for now 😭 i‘ll check it out thank you

[humble gulch]

Lol

[sly girder]

so with a heavy heart, i will be stopping

[fluid nova]

dis game...

[sly girder]

👀

[nova mantle]

how do you have all that in ANTE 3 😭

[versed sable]

ectoplasm :D

[glad aspen]

Dont let them take a photo of you, unless you look like a chad

[zinc sigil]

Oh ok thanks

[fluid nova]

ye only took 16 antes for one

[hexed tundra]

Played a seeded game with obelisk at the first shop with your strat, it's not that bad, just VERY situational, just like every other joker, it's good for early game, ngl @terse vale

[primal stirrup]

All good, but yeah discarding a royal flush does definitely sound daunting at first lmao

[noble mango]

balatro rng

[humble gulch]

Don't do that, you almost gave me a heart attack

[zinc sigil]

THAT JOKER IS SO HORRIBLE

IDC WHAT ANYONE SAYS OBELISK IS HORRIBLE

[humble gulch]

Obelisk is a free win, what do you mean

[sly girder]

im very sorry, ill make sure to sit down and talk with you

[grizzled robin]

lowkey

[sly girder]

heart to heart

[grizzled robin]

savescum it

[nova mantle]

obelisk slander? truly attrocious

[grizzled robin]

theo nly time i feel like

u should

the only*

[sly girder]

no

no no no

no no no no no

[zinc sigil]

Why is everyone telling me the cards I hate are good and then prove it after

[sly girder]

you dont take it

[slow iris]

oh so you hate free wins

[sly girder]

you leave it be

[wintry ice]

have you used it

[noble mango]

unless you got your flush to level 37 already

[nova mantle]

the joker that makes you count to 12

[humble gulch]

Probably because you're new

[zinc sigil]

Maybe Im just low iq chud

[wintry ice]

maybe that should be a reason to reflect on your criteria for good cards?

[sly girder]

guys

[grizzled robin]

i mean it really isnt good, it seems u guys want to be niche and are calling "usable" jokers "good"

[safe loom]

dewds

[sly girder]

why is there a joker that is a 1x multiplier

[humble gulch]

I ran out of puns

[safe loom]

should in take the soul

[sly girder]

it just seems really stupid

[slow iris]

there is

it's called Throwback

[nova mantle]

many good jokers are considered bad by rookies, its no issue

[sly girder]

thats what im referencing

[slow iris]

oops misread

[grizzled robin]

its called throwback glass joker canio

[zinc sigil]

To me good cards are early +mult and then xmults after that are set, playing a different hand every play is so hard to me

[sly girder]

WOAH

[wintry ice]

because having the ability to reasonably get double digit xmult by ante 8 witha setup that isn't that rare is just "usable"

[sly girder]

easy on glass joker

[noble mango]

idol is good

[sly girder]

be nice to my boy

[humble gulch]

Glass joker just makes glass cards three times better

🥀

[sly girder]

exactlyy

[noble mango]

yorick

[sly girder]

except

[grizzled robin]

if you get some insane deckfixing its practically a better triboulet

[sly girder]

immolate doesnt work on glass joker

[grizzled robin]

with a huge if

[sly girder]

so

[sly girder]

no?

[zinc sigil]

Do you just rotate between 2 different hands or how does it work?

[sly girder]

at best it is the same as trib

[grizzled robin]

yea i was trying to mention ones that have some conditions to meet

[sly girder]

it isnt ever better

[grizzled robin]

better because its not only kings and queens

what if youre playing for hack or something

no matter how you look at it its slightly better

[wintry ice]

you stack a bunch of plays on one hand and then start playing a bunch of different ones

[grizzled robin]

if you are idol-ready

[zinc sigil]

Everytime I try obelisk I fuck it up

[grizzled robin]

thati s

[nova mantle]

its the same as trib when you deckfix your whole deck

[noble mango]

wee hack fibonacci

[grizzled robin]

yeah but what if your good cards arent kings or queens bro lmao

slightly better ifu think about it

[sly girder]

you are wrong, unfortunately. the amount of setupt required for idol makes it borderline worthless in 90% of gold stake runs.

[wintry ice]

the strategy is to get a good source of unconditional mult and chips

[nova mantle]

and in no way you getting your whole deck to a single card in an ante 8 run

[sly girder]

it's terrible to play towards

[zinc sigil]

Ohhhh so I need like 30 high cards and im safe?

[sly girder]

there are so many better things

[wintry ice]

which are pretty much always found in ante 8 runs

[ancient gyro]

oop

[humble gulch]

Well, enter into the balatrungeon

[grizzled robin]

right i forgot we are talking about gold stake only

[wintry ice]

20 pairs preferably

[sly girder]

and if im making all of my cards one thing, might as well go kings and play a god awful baron run

[noble mango]

sertpent do bee silly

[grizzled robin]

excuse me.

[zinc sigil]

But how do I get there and still stack the joker

[sly girder]

the ss master

[wintry ice]

high cards are more dangerous since they're the only hand you can be forced to play

[zinc sigil]

Cola is cool no?

[nova mantle]

cola is always in the last ones lmao

[sly girder]

i mean, even in endless, it's just worse than baron

doesnt even matter

[zinc sigil]

Thats good intel

[wintry ice]

you get a minimum of 4 hands per round most of the time

[slow iris]

two spectral packs in one shop 🤑

[humble gulch]

Cola is meant to be sold

[ancient gyro]

im almost at 1k again

[humble gulch]

That's the problem

[nova mantle]

tbf, a specific uncommon joker is harder to find than a specific rare

[sly girder]

hooray

[zinc sigil]

Oh right so u need the card at the last blind to have the sticker?

[humble gulch]

Yeah, and win

[sly girder]

maybe ?

[zinc sigil]

I see

[sly girder]

i dont know the odds

i think you're doing like

more uncommons so less chance for a specific

[noble mango]

sockskin trib

[sly girder]

but rares are rare

[grizzled robin]

but.. we were comparing idol to trib..

[sly girder]

so

idk

[grizzled robin]

why bring up baron

[sly girder]

gotcha

yeah, trib is better

because it works for 2 cards

and there is more variety

[zinc sigil]

Is anything better than baron in endless with a good deck

[nova mantle]

the odds are higher for uncommons but since theres more uncommons than any other rarity, it makes it harder to find a specific one

[noble mango]

legendary

[sly girder]

idol you need the same suit for all of your cards

and they have to be the same rank

[humble gulch]

I could do full houses and a bunch of stone cards

[serene forge]

oh boy

[sly girder]

the prerequisites for idol compared to trib make trib better

[zinc sigil]

That gotta be bait

[serene forge]

i bet the comments under this one will be very rearsonable

[grizzled robin]

me when new players arent instantly einsteins

[wintry ice]

baron is just very specific

[humble gulch]

He understood really quickly

[sly girder]

baron is usually garbage

[grizzled robin]

at the craft of balatro

[sly girder]

it's really good when it is

[nova mantle]

this is the version of someone posting this here but with a picture of obelisk

[zinc sigil]

I saw someone naneinf with it and I always play for it now

[sly girder]

but it's hard to get there

[zinc sigil]

And if I dont get it

Oh well

[wintry ice]

there's a reason why it's confined to endless

[humble gulch]

It's just another Idol

[sly girder]

but better

because

money

[noble mango]

[sly girder]

and the number gets wayyy bigger

[zinc sigil]

What are your favorite jokers

[wintry ice]

trib is better because it makes my temperances stronger

[sly girder]

the mark is scarier than the plant

i will die on this hill alone if i must

[zinc sigil]

Is trib triboulet

[sly girder]

yes

[wintry ice]

yeah

[noble mango]

yep

[zinc sigil]

Its a legendary right

[ancient gyro]

stm/glassy/obby/canio

[sly girder]

yep

[wintry ice]

like obelisk, hit the road and shortcut i guess

[serene forge]

no that's not my point

[zinc sigil]

I think I have it unlocked

[serene forge]

i'm saying this guy figured it out already

and r/balatro being r/balatro will not appreciate it

[noble mango]

what's your fav joker

[zinc sigil]

Oh man if I told you how much Id love to understand what u said

[sly girder]

mine is oops

i love luck

[grizzled robin]

oki

[serene forge]

true

[noble mango]

mine's blueprint brainstorm

[serene forge]

red card