🕹・game-discussion

[heavy heron]

or whatever

[ancient gyro]

multiple x mult has exponential scoring results

because 2^3 has a higher scoring yield than just 3 flat mult jokers

[nocturne frost]

Of course but you can and should consider your +mult as how much xmult are they effectively

And the opposite

[heavy heron]

it’s not like photochad synergies w + mult anyway

[ancient gyro]

that doesn't translate seamlessly in practice

[heavy heron]

like photochad doesn’t go well with red card

or like… fortune teller

or anything like that

[nocturne frost]

It synergies with a bunch of +mult

[heavy heron]

it doesn’t

[nocturne frost]

On card +mult

[heavy heron]

because it goes off before + mult

[heavy heron]

yes that

meaning

ONLY smiley face

[ancient gyro]

you will find score shortcomings from the order of the scoring events and the type of mult it's to be represented

[heavy heron]

and maybe a +3 suit joker..

[nocturne frost]

Also onyx and basic +3 suits

[ebon condor]

and mult cards

[nocturne frost]

Also stacks with glass, ancient, bloodstone and so much more

[ebon condor]

or lucky cards sometimes

[heavy heron]

yeah see if i’m going glass ancient bloodstone, im not going pairs

[noble shuttle]

C++ tips anyone?

[heavy heron]

but then again pairs is never a fallback for me

[noble shuttle]

Recommended decks?

[nocturne frost]

I recommend anaglyph still

[ebon condor]

play the deck youre best st

[heavy heron]

^

[nocturne frost]

That too

[ebon condor]

anaglyph has diminishing returns very quickly

[heavy heron]

or have the most fun doing

[ancient gyro]

photo with any on joker x mult is decent enough provided enough base mult over no base mult, flat mult joker, and the same x mult on joker scoring

[heavy heron]

try not to rush C++

it’s a gradual thing

and luck based

[noble shuttle]

Tbh, I was really bad when I started C+ hunting and now that I've finished C+ and I'm pretty good. I don't know what deck I'm good at.

[nocturne frost]

If you feel very consistent at your favorite deck I do suggest tying out anaglyph though

[ancient gyro]

start with the one you have fun with

[heavy heron]

do the one that you think you’ll have fun on! like for me that’s ghost deck because hexing first joker is fun

because the thing is if you go into C++

expecting

to knock it out quickly

you’ll have 0 fun

[noble shuttle]

I know :3

[vagrant wagon]

Holy early yorick

[ebon condor]

ghost, blue, yellow, or checkered are probably your best bets

[heavy heron]

you’re at the mercy of the jokers you find that need stickers

[worthy tinsel]

Eh, I find only a x1.5 not so good tbh for a pair run
And no I'm not considering chad, and with it is like what? A X3.3 or something, it would still need an xmult joker

[heavy heron]

yeah that’s what i was saying like you’ll still need a hologram or something; photochad on pairs just acts as flat mult

[nocturne frost]

Red, Blue, Yellow, Ghost all very solid, Anaglyph is for when you are consistent, the rest I would say just for the challenge or knocking out some stinkers

Jokers your deck doesn't like, but this other deck loves

[noble shuttle]

So what I'm hearing is... I gotta find which deck I like.

[heavy heron]

yup!

gotta have fun….

the difficult part

[noble shuttle]

okie

[nocturne frost]

Yes, the red blue yellow and ghost are the obvious candidates

But not necessarily if you have fun with others

[heavy heron]

if you don’t feel like trying too hard..

start on yellow maybe

more forgiving

[nocturne frost]

Don't do black though

[heavy heron]

and you don’t have to think so hard on how to save money (99% the problem of every run)

[noble shuttle]

I feel like ghost deck isn't the best cause the main advantage is more spectrals and a hex.

[stoic isle]

i LOVE checkered deck!!!

[versed sable]

i did ghost for c++ myself

[heavy heron]

oh yeah ghost isn’t the best at all

i just ghost because

hehe polychrome

hehehe

[ebon condor]

its solid tbh

[untold umbra]

Yo Rick

[stoic isle]

ghost is my favourite though

[ebon condor]

hex means you can make useless jokers for stickers actually do something

[stoic isle]

it helped me get the triple eternal polychrome pants run

[nocturne frost]

Ghost is solid, it doesn't really have a downside, and you really want any xmult on gold stake, and it can make a useless joker useful

So it's really not the worst deck to c++ on

[noble shuttle]

Welllllll

I don't really like ghost that much

[ancient gyro]

ghosts main c++ advantage is just more accessible options to add joker stickers

[heavy heron]

[the downside being that instead of seeing a joker in the shop you might see an incantation instead]

[ebon condor]

zodiac is also cool cuz it sees more jokers on average

[nocturne frost]

Oh yeah

[heavy heron]

then don’t do it!

[nocturne frost]

I forgot zodiac too

[heavy heron]

i just do ghost because it allows for the more silly runs

[ancient gyro]

otherwise you can just roll with the classic blue/yellow/abandoned/zodiac/checkered defaults

[versed sable]

immolate and trance are potentially winning
starting hex is convenient
dejavu and ankh and medium are nice in some runs
cryptid can accelerate a build really fast
card spectrals can boost hologram insanely well
ecto helps with c++
talisman and aura are okay i guess
wraith sigil and ouiju are ehh, sometimes

[ebon condor]

i did mostly blue myself

[heavy heron]

blue is easiest deck for winning

yellow is if you don’t wanna think too hard

[warped moth]

Almost passed the score requirement with a lvl 1 high card 😭

[heavy heron]

those are my recommendations

[noble shuttle]

A deck I do like is plasma however for obvious reasons I can't do that.

[nocturne frost]

Abandoned and checkered do have weak points so careful with those

[heavy heron]

i mean… you could…. sounds fun

and hard

[ancient gyro]

best, easiest*

[nocturne frost]

Plasma for all the fun it is, it isn't great for c++, yeah

[heavy heron]

for C++?

[ancient gyro]

lol

[heavy heron]

yeaaa i don’t know about that

[noble shuttle]

Plasma is fun for white stake

[heavy heron]

oh you mean

blue yellow

got it

[ancient gyro]

best: blue
easiest: yellow

yeah

[heavy heron]

endless player spotted

[ancient gyro]

to be more cohesive

[noble shuttle]

I started C+ hunting and pretty much stopped endless.

I played it here and there.

But

Now that I C+'d

I will :3

[versed sable]

-# endless mode my beloved

[heavy heron]

yea yea fern..

LOOLLL

[nocturne frost]

I do still like my Anaglyph, it's a vanilla deck that can give you a lot of stinker joker stickers. But again, not if you're not consistent already

[warped moth]

Nvm

Red seal steel is so good gang

[ebon condor]

the issue is that most of the time anaglyph is just a deck with no upsides

[nocturne frost]

But also no downsides

[ebon condor]

and once you get more stickers negative skips dont provide much

[nocturne frost]

Not just negative skips actually

Rare and uncommon skips

[ebon condor]

so if youre above like 60% id say no

[nocturne frost]

60% is way too low

Basically half the hits will still hit

[worthy tinsel]

I did 3 c++ on ghost only
The hex was nice to get some value from a deadweight joker, also love the easy access of spectrals on consumables without doing 6 sense or seance
But yeah blue is an easy deck to c++, you can anaglyph early
Find whats best for you tbh

[nocturne frost]

You should be at least like 90% done before negative skips on Anaglyph stop working so well

[ebon condor]

i mean with just rares and uncommons youre not going to see many jokers you wouldnt be seeing in a normal run already

once you have very few left maybe?

[wraith slate]

blueprint and brainstorm value

[ebon condor]

but its just not strong enough to be consistent

[nocturne frost]

I mean yes, if rares and uncommons are the ones hard to find, skips are a good way of trying to

[rotund igloo]

Anaglyth is more fun than good. Something about getting hundreds of dollars or 8 negative jokers for one skip is super cool.

[nocturne frost]

Better than just keeping running over and over not finding those

[ebon condor]

yeah but if youre at 60%, youll be seeing enough already

so that aspect isnt that good until later

[nocturne frost]

At 60% negative skips still work very well

[worthy tinsel]

Anaglyph is mostly good for common jokers tbh

[nocturne frost]

Especially at knocking out the common jokers

On black++ the basic common jokers are the stinkers

[ebon condor]

the thing is youll get maybe like 3 stickers every 4 or 5 runs from that

[heady narwhal]

really? i assumed that black deck encourages taking shitty eternals to survive the early game

[nocturne frost]

That's more than I get from another deck at the same win rate

[ebon condor]

if you just play a stronger deck youll be fien

[heady narwhal]

so you'd just get the bad commons by default

[ebon condor]

you wont be getting the same winrate

[nocturne frost]

Bad commons are very different from each other, if you get one you don't get the other

[ebon condor]

unless you are a gold stake god who somehow has the same wr on blue and anaglyph when youre still doing c++

[nocturne frost]

You eventually get them all, but they just statistically are the last ones

[ancient gyro]

two of my most used jokers are page 1 on black++

[wraith slate]

ante 39 black stake done, which deck should I go for next? (already did anaglyph and ghost)

[nocturne frost]

I mean pairs +8 and what pairs +50 chips

[heady narwhal]

jolly and sly?

[ancient gyro]

jolly yeah

sly used to be there

[worthy tinsel]

Erratic

[ancient gyro]

up until around 40 wins

[wraith slate]

2nd reroll btw, holy kings

[sand shuttle]

So I'm stupid

[heady narwhal]

painted

[sand shuttle]

I started a run in vanilla balatro but it was in my mod profile (M1) and when I won it gave me steam achievements I got in modded (so I haven't got them legitimately, only in modded)

Can I somehow un-win these achievements

I assume not

[nocturne frost]

Is it two pairs mult/chips or just joker maybe?

[heady narwhal]

just do them again in vanilla

[nocturne frost]

Maybe even a flush

[wraith slate]

immediate red seal queen 🤣

[void lintel]

steam achievement manager

[sand shuttle]

wait can u elaborate where is that

[void lintel]

it's a 3rd party tool

[sand shuttle]

oh I found it

[lost vault]

mid

[sand shuttle]

okay tysm!!

[wraith slate]

did you happen to see the 11 kings I started with lmao

[steady wharf]

This was a pretty good run
I died though

[lost vault]

red seals are still mid though

[ancient gyro]

nvm im looking at an older ss 😐

[lost vault]

i wouldve hoped for a purple

[sand shuttle]

yeah so I got the high stakes achievement (I haven't even won with red stake lmao) so that would take a long ass time, I'll do the manager thingy tho

[lost vault]

:3

[pale wolf]

balatro

[ancient gyro]

i forgot about my main propaganda

[nocturne frost]

Btw also they are not that often eternal so you do switch off of them, so naturally they get to be the last ones to actually get the stickers, although there is still an advantage of the extra joker slot, often used for the stinkers

[ancient gyro]

sly and jolly were higher early on as being one of the safest eternal pickups

[nocturne frost]

But on first time I didn't realize they were the stinkers and didn't treat them like so

My first c++ was on Anaglyph

My current 65% black++ stats

[rich mauve]

balala

[ancient gyro]

grr photoslop 🥀

[nocturne frost]

Chad is not just a photochad enabler

[ancient gyro]

i don't remember my first 3 c++ achievements

ik

[nocturne frost]

Abstract is the real MVP

On black deck

[ancient gyro]

I prefer fist

[frozen tendon]

why did I just grab smiley face and faceless shop 1 in abandoned deck

[nocturne frost]

Also, not on here, but stencil, such a glow up on black deck

[ancient gyro]

controllable scoring that can dodge boss blinds and is scribbly x mult compatible

I don't care much for stencil

[nocturne frost]

Abstract ignores bosses...

Stencil is a flat unconditional otherwise x2 if you forget you have 6 slots

[ancient gyro]

I need to have a good reason to keep stencil utility working

[cosmic sun]

Joker so bad it's actually one of the harder ones to sticker due to its persistent effect

[ancient gyro]

abstract isn't controllable scoring in terms of underscoring on purpose

[nocturne frost]

That's true

[ancient gyro]

joker so bad it was my last gold sticker

[nocturne frost]

Still one of the few power ups for black deck

[white anvil]

Hey, thats a nice photo i can use that
Let me use this judgement before i take it just in cas-

[nocturne frost]

This is for the last Black++, but it's skewed by me doing normal plasma bullshit on the same save

[noble shuttle]

Couldn't find anything to save me.

[ancient gyro]

figures

scribbly downscale 🗣️

[mighty hare]

What's a good deck to use to beat green stake?

[versed sable]

-# Any good one

[slow iris]

i can't wait to send a message in #ceremonial-dagger

[lost vault]

yeah that would be very hilarious

[slow iris]

i fucking love honey

(NOT THE CORPORATION OR BROWSER EXTENSION)

[pale wolf]

gosh I mean I understand it is strictly the definition but what a charged word to use for that channel

[dense osprey]

So closeee (I'm new, don't be mean)

[lost vault]

??

[haughty cairn]

😢

[dense osprey]

Hey also what the HELL is going on in everyones runs? I'm still like playing cards why does that guy have 30 jokers?

[lost vault]

dont worry about it

you dont need 30 jokers to win

[haughty cairn]

Doing naneinf runs

[dense osprey]

Whats a naneinf run

[dense osprey]

Okok but like how?

[lost vault]

propaganda made up by endless players to make it seem more interesting than it is

[dense osprey]

I haven't even unlocked endless yet lmao

[lost vault]

(naneinf is the result of an overflow error that is caused by scoring above ~1.8e308 or 18 uncentillion

)

[vagrant wagon]

This was fun 😁

[dense osprey]

I have played this game way too much for having never beat it

[lost vault]

100 uncentillion

close enough

[lost vault]

youll get there

[haughty cairn]

When the score is so big that the number breaks

[dense osprey]

How in the world is breaking the game a popular run

Also how do you even get that much

[lost vault]

xmult stacks multiplicitavely

[dense osprey]

Thats absurd

[lost vault]

so if i have 4 jokers that give 3x mult

the total will be like

81x mult

[pale wolf]

||you lost the game||
↑DON'T CLICK↑

[lost vault]

har har hhar

jokes on you i already won the game

🙄

[dense osprey]

Jesus

[lost vault]

anyyway

there is a joker called Baron

[dense osprey]

I clicked as soon as i saw it

[lost vault]

who gives 1.5x mult for every held in hand king

[gilded path]

baron?

[lost vault]

there are various methods to increase or overflow your handsize

[ancient gyro]

honeypot not working they missed a guy ☝️

[lost vault]

cryptid, serpent, bean bug

[dense osprey]

Ive never seen ANY of those

[gilded path]

fuck im stupid mb 😭

didnt see the previous msg

[lost vault]

and with enough handsize and retriggers you can get baron to activate enough times to where it will reach 180 uncentillion

it seems like a lot but exponential scaling is crazy

[lost vault]

oh well

[dense osprey]

Holy hell

[lost vault]

alsoo there are jokers called blueprint and brainstorm who like copy the effects of jokers

[dense osprey]

Thats absurd lmao

[lost vault]

very good for naneinf

yah its silly

i dont love endless tbh it is quite repetitive

[jagged cliff]

Take a guess, win a prize!!

[lost vault]

blueprint is unlocked by winning once, brainstorm by discarding a royal flush

[lost vault]

chicot upon ye

[gilded path]

triboulet?

[jagged cliff]

Seeing some good guesses, you two are really close

[mossy spire]

turtle bean

[gilded path]

1 out of 5 anyway

[jagged cliff]

1/5 chance to get it correct

[gilded path]

its perkeo btw

[lost vault]

Srimky

[jagged cliff]

But

Its rick

[mossy spire]

turtle bean

[lost vault]

the goat!!

[haughty cairn]

Last shop before the plant, please pray for me I need a luchador right now

[pale wolf]

excellent

[jagged cliff]

hoping rick will carry the run

[dense osprey]

This is certainly taking an insane step backwards, but what deck is easiest for winning the first time? Ive been having a ton of trouble beating it

[lost vault]

uuuuh

[pale wolf]

Gold stake?

[lost vault]

idk cro

[gilded path]

blue?

[lost vault]

blue

[dense osprey]

Okok ty

[lost vault]

white stake so easy all the decksthe same to me smg

[heady narwhal]

i think balala white stake is pretty hard if you're playing the game for the first time

[lost vault]

blobably

[dense osprey]

I guess im just not familiar enough with poker hands or something

[pale wolf]

i domt

[heady narwhal]

especially compared to something like spire ascension 0

[lost vault]

im just saying that because i dont really have a good input

[gilded path]

im trying to beat my first game as well. Good luck twin

[dense osprey]

Ty twin you too

[pale wolf]

i don't rember white stake

[lost vault]

i dont rember anything

where am i

[pale wolf]

I haven't actually played a white stake game outside of testing things since I finished c++ and tried out a couple white State games to see what it felt like

[lost vault]

who am i

[gilded path]

do you atleast the 21st night of september?

[pale wolf]

stake for fucks sake

[dense osprey]

Don't you have to play white stake?

[terse dock]

######################################

[haughty cairn]

Bro fuck this game

[median grove]

is it better to scale rtb in the early antes, or get to $25 first?

[terse dock]

You unlock stakes when you win runs

[pale wolf]

c++ is the achievement for beating gold stake with every Joker

[median grove]

i feel like i cant do both, in the beginning

because im spending all my hands

[dense osprey]

I'm sorry what? You can get every joker? Huh? How?

[pale wolf]

You balance between them, you get to survival numbers with rtb and then build interest

[versed sable]

score

[pale wolf]

Not in the same run lol

[terse dock]

It tracks between runs

[median grove]

whats survival numbers?

[dense osprey]

This is like a mere human seeing cathulu

[dense osprey]

Ohh

[versed sable]

as in
"this run i beat it with bus, square, and stencil" and then those jokers permanently have a "gold sticker" for beating gold stake with them

[median grove]

like scale rtb? but then i cant buy anything

[pale wolf]

like, the point where you've scaled RGB and you don't need to spend all of your hands every round

[terse dock]

Rgb

[median grove]

so i should do that before i get to $25?

[pale wolf]

yeah get over it I use voice to text and it's gotten worse in the past 5 years and I'm very upset about it

[median grove]

but i feel like ill never get any money that way

[pale wolf]

I'm done correcting myself

[terse dock]

Gay joker

[lost vault]

yes?

[haughty cairn]

I lost😢

[terse dock]

That makes it worse because couldn't you just say ride the bus then

[terse dock]

Haiiii

[pale wolf]

You balance between them, if you're going to die then obviously you scale RTB

[median grove]

as in scale rtb BEFORE i get $25?

[pale wolf]

survival is always more important than keeping money

[median grove]

oh okay

survival as in im just barely beating the blinds

[pale wolf]

The closer you cut it, the more optimally you are playing

In theory

[dense osprey]

I was so wrong about what i thought was a big number in this game

[terse dock]

1.79999...×10^308

[lost vault]

just depends on context

[dense osprey]

Im scared

[gilded path]

waht did you think was a big number

[pale wolf]

overscoring the blind is technically inefficiency for scaling, but it is also safety for the unpredictable factors

[lost vault]

but usuallly what i count as a big number is "whatever gets me through the blind"

[dense osprey]

Like 100$

[ancient gyro]

my dragon doesn't have rgb lighting

[lost vault]

100 dollar is a lot yeah

[gilded path]

thats pretty much

[terse dock]

After that the game doesnt know what to do and throws nan at you

[pale wolf]

endless mode isn't real, so yeah $100 is quite a bit

It's not like the most you'll ever have but

[lost vault]

actually the game does know what to do, which is why it throws nan at you

:3

[median needle]

I have Canio and Triboulet that is bad

I guess I could destroy the jacks in my deck

[feral needle]

could destroy only some faces yeah

you don't need to scale it infinitely to win the run

[median grove]

is jolly joker good with 3oak / 4oak?

[feral needle]

Played hand contains a pair, so yeah

[median grove]

okey

thanks

[feral needle]

"Contains" means you could make that hand using the cards that score in that hand

Four of a kind contains three of a kind and pair

[clever pebble]

Currently doing a Bloodstone run and I just scored 205 million with one flush hand

[lost vault]

jolly joker isnt good though

[feral needle]

every hand contains high card which is why it's never requested as a contained hand

[lost vault]

:3

[lost vault]

next hand youll score 50000

[clever pebble]

And yes, Im using a Brainstorm and Blueprint

[wanton spoke]

anyone got this issue where all the cards in shop are jokers and tarrots, i added a few mods but i dont know which one made it like this

[feral needle]

#⚙・modding-support

[primal heath]

I just got a perishable foil bp, perishable reserved parking and mail in rebait from a single shop

im gonna go to the moon

[feral needle]

oops all perishables

[primal heath]

the bubble is gonna burst in 5 moves

but at least im gonna be rich by then

[lost vault]

if you read the description of the deck you're using that will explain it

[wanton spoke]

oh i see

[lost vault]

yeah equilibrium deck just does that

pretty rad i think

[vestal copper]

i see cryptid i see mp i hsee more other mods 😭

this shits gonna be insane

[ivory portal]

Holy goated shop

Got invis from this shop

[lost vault]

pareidolia with no face card jokers is the most white stake play ive seen

[vestal copper]

a horrible shop tbh

[lost vault]

yteah

[terse dock]

im assuming theyre going to use it as a tempo play

Cause of the foil + halfsies

[vestal copper]

i mean ig

[lost vault]

i uno cro

[terse dock]

Though it is round 2 ante 2 so

[lost vault]

50 chips for 7 dollars

[ivory portal]

Yeah

[lost vault]

kindaaa questionable

[vestal copper]

but bye bye interest yeah

[ivory portal]

It's fine

Do I get that

[vestal copper]

do you need it to live

[terse dock]

I didn't say it was a good tempo play

[ivory portal]

No

[lost vault]

probably not

[ivory portal]

Half joker is always enough

[vestal copper]

surely a speculative ticket goes hard enough:clueless:

[haughty cairn]

Do you have gold cards?

[pale wolf]

no

no hand contains high card

[vestal copper]

why did u take it

[ivory portal]

Yes bro

[ivory portal]

Cus bro

[vestal copper]

why

its not even a silly play its just pointless

[pale wolf]

High card is defined by the absence of any other hand, so it isnt contained in any poker hand

[feral needle]

oh

[vestal copper]

huh

[lost vault]

if thats the case then explain why absurd joker triggers every hand in cryptid mod

🤨

[pale wolf]

cryptid more isn't real

[vestal copper]

cryptid is cryptid

[lost vault]

but it says "+4 mult if hand contains high card"

[pale wolf]

yes but it's fake

[vestal copper]

never trust what cryptid tells u

[lost vault]

whaaaat no waay

[lost vault]

the jokers usually work how they say they do though :3

[frank notch]

high card is just 1 card

every hand except none contains a card

[lost vault]

incorrect

you can play 5 cards and still have a high card

:3

[frank notch]

i know

but 1 scored card

[pale wolf]

stone?

[lost vault]

well yeah

[pale wolf]

lol

[lost vault]

if no other handtypes are present the highest card will score

i think the description goes something like that

[pale wolf]

none of the hands listed above (?)

[lost vault]

probz

[jagged cliff]

some pretty big handsize

[strange compass]

Do I get Card Sharp

[lost vault]

sure\

[feral needle]

yeah ok makes sense

high card is exclusive to itself because it excludes other hands

[strange compass]

I feel like it'll slow down my Bus a bit. I have 11 mult on each currently

[feral needle]

then play unique poker hands

[strange compass]

But I also don't know if I'll find better x mukt

[lost vault]

it is a good long term play

[strange compass]

I can do this yeh

I'll get it

[jagged cliff]

I suppose we gotta guess again!!

Gather around and take a guess

Last was rick

Can still be rick

[lost vault]

the chicot is coming

[pale wolf]

it's can

[jagged cliff]

again some pretty close guesses

[pale wolf]

bc baron

[jagged cliff]

but

its perkeo

[pale wolf]

wrong

[serene forge]

i just watched roffle die in ante 2 with invisible joker

[ancient gyro]

nothing ever happens

[ancient gyro]

a celebration? 🎉

[pale wolf]

roffle stood too close to the dagger

[lost vault]

roffle is the most white stake gold stake player ever

(citation needed)

[strange compass]

Is this bait

[pale wolf]

This is supposed to mirror flew too close to the Sun by the way

[lost vault]

its always "flew too close to the sun" and never flew too close to the ocean

[strange compass]

Stood too close to Madness

[lost vault]

madness chooses randomly so it doesnt matter how close or far you are from it

[strange compass]

Do I get BS 😺

[lost vault]

i unno

[strange compass]

Castle and Drunkard have synergy

[lost vault]

a tad yeah

[strange compass]

And if I get BS the best thing I'd be able to copy rn would be chips

[lost vault]

what do you MEAN ❌

[lost vault]

probs

[strange compass]

I think I'll pass

4 of my jokers are basically locked rn

[serene forge]

i made the fatal mistake of talking in roffle's chat

[lost vault]

what happened

[sudden river]

polychrome redseal jack of spades, level 1 flush five, no telescope, no grabber (had to pass on hieroglyph three times) no idol, no dusk, just a blueprint copying a photochad and sock. There's a lucky cat too I guess.

[serene forge]

i got dogpiled for saying that selling ghost deck hex round 0 is probably not a good idea and you should probably just play yellow deck if you're gonna do that

[terse dock]

Was roffle the ass or was chat

[lost vault]

sob

[terse dock]

What the fuck

[sudden river]

I misread this as fetal mistake

[lost vault]

selling hex round one is so boring and lame

have they no joy or whimsy

[median grove]

is supernova a pair joker?

[lost vault]

yes

[strange compass]

Imagine not using the mechanic of the deck

[median grove]

is odd todd also a pair joker?

[terse dock]

Every joker is a pair joker

[serene forge]

one guy there tried flexing their 60% winrate [citation needed]

[sudden river]

it's good with any hands that aren't the heavy hitter five card hands

[median grove]

but it doesnt sound very good

[strange compass]

Kind of but it benefits with bigger hands or retriggers.

[serene forge]

it can be

[strange compass]

Todd will help with chips tho

[lost vault]

you can have a 100% winrate and still be wrong

(winrate earned on white stake)

[median grove]

seems like it would only give +2 or +3 mult at most which is not good

[weak relic]

White stake winrate

[strange compass]

Econslop

[jagged cliff]

3rd guess this game, lets try again!

[sudden river]

you actually want to score less early on so you have more opportunities to scale it before you really need it

[strange compass]

"Must, Have, Econ!!!!!"

[weak relic]

Murderer

[median grove]

oh it adds mult to the card, not the score

?

[serene forge]

roffle's about to die with bloodstone

[unborn cliff]

SURELY it was perkeo this time

[serene forge]

nvm he sold it

[jagged cliff]

it was perkeo last time

[serene forge]

now he's in ante 5 with 0 dollars

[jagged cliff]

weve had rick and perkeo

[sudden river]

it scales based on how many times you played the hand, including from before you picked up the joker

[unborn cliff]

hooray!

[jagged cliff]

can still be those

but

trib

[unborn cliff]

guess we're pivoting

[jagged cliff]

😭

[serene forge]

and he just died

[unborn cliff]

come on man hear me out

you can force a baron build pretty much whenever

you can't force a triboulet build

thinking emoji

[jagged cliff]

sorry i didnt catch that

[jagged cliff]

yo howd you get this video of me

[unborn cliff]

im hacking

[lavish gazelle]

Live roffle reaction

[primal heath]

Just beat green deck with a flush build 🔥

[feral needle]

woa

cool build

[weak relic]

F5 pivot 🗣️ 🔥

[serene forge]

i can't watch this anymore he just skipped a bus ante 1

[jagged cliff]

hell nahhhhhh

[weak relic]

Boo

[weak relic]

Acro on green deck

Hmm

[jagged cliff]

m

[ancient gyro]

let me know when he ignores 3 saturns again

[fringe nebula]

???

[ancient gyro]

quote the ppl that refer to him for advice lol

[fringe nebula]

what is roffle aiming for

[serene forge]

idk

[ancient gyro]

potential

run

[serene forge]

he threw last game because he bought a bloodstone into a spectral pack fishing for wraith

(he didnt get it)

[feral needle]

looking at their title they're just doing gold stake runs apparently

[frank notch]

all decks done on blue stake

[fiery nymph]

roffle is dumb

😅

[feral needle]

woah fancy menu

I know it's modded but it looks much better than what's in the game right now

should be made official

[median grove]

is droll joker better than crafty joker? early game?

i guess so

[feral needle]

I think they're about equal, probably

OK I just looked using a calculator

using the lowest-ranking flush, droll one-shots ante 1 boss blind

[jagged cliff]

Do we think IJ is the play? Big chance it will just copy baron again

[feral needle]

crafty does make it easier to beat ante 1 boss blind in two hands though

[lyric karma]

Gamble

so yes

[jagged cliff]

you got a point

dang

[lyric karma]

No gain no lose

[jagged cliff]

true true

[terse dock]

smasrter than einstein?

[chilly turtle]

probably my best run ever, 5 blueprints (2 negative) , 3 brainstorms (1 negative), perkeo/baron/mime, negative burn joker, negative card sharp

[terse dock]

An IQ too high?

[jagged cliff]

that's a lotta cards

[chilly turtle]

wonder what the highest number of cards is

naneinf cards?

[terse imp]

am i gonna get banned from kitchen with this concept

[jagged cliff]

Lets test it out

[terse imp]

you have a few cards there

[chilly turtle]

yea I had DNA but sold it to get another blueprint

[vernal breach]

HOLYYY

[lyric karma]

Hell yea

[terse imp]

generational luck gone right there

[strange compass]

This is actually better than skipping tho cuz you are building up your potential Fortune Teller

[void lintel]

eh might as well use hierophant in that case

[strange compass]

Ezzzzz

[deft anvil]

Literally my second ever run on my new acc

It was a Yorick btw

[vernal breach]

...

[rich mauve]

chat

how much do you think is the winrate of gold stake generally

and in theory, what it should be

[strange compass]

Shouldnt you copy some on Idol too

[lost vault]

how the heck would we answer that

[strange compass]

Also drop seed when you're done

[vernal breach]

My scoring is way over the limit Im farming money off lucky cards

[strange compass]

[vernal breach]

I will when I die

[strange compass]

Oh ok

[random lark]

top 5 bait jokers of all time

[terse imp]

sell brainstorm

[terse imp]

is it that bad

[random lark]

you ruin your econ for xmult

[pale wolf]

It's a polarizing joker

[terse imp]

who actually needs econ though

[pale wolf]

wouldnt really work bc its either winmore or relatively instant death

[lyric karma]

Hold on, it could actually be good

because it makes bloodstone worse

[strange compass]

It's -1

[pale wolf]

it doesnt reset

so you essentially have no money if you use this joker

[lyric karma]

But also nerfs the wheel

[terse imp]

perkeo temperance

[random lark]

if you get wheel your run is either over or won

[pale wolf]

amazing point

[random lark]

the entire joker feels like something you take on ante 6 and get 7x mult with

[lyric karma]

Add gift card

[pale wolf]

like why even worry about dying when you could just draw straight flushes every round

[random lark]

yeah why worry

[vernal breach]

Do I sell brainstorm and farm polychrome red seal queens?

[terse imp]

now go down to 4 hand size

[random lark]

deck check

[strange compass]

Dihh check

[jagged cliff]

Man 💔

[random lark]

i think i got four fingers too so it would barely matter

[random lark]

reroll voucher

[terse imp]

remove purple rock

[terse imp]

based off a true story btw

[peak lantern]

my first run today w ghost deck was a triple blueprint

but i didnt get a single mult or chip joker that could carry me for the next few rounds

[median grove]

is pair better than 2 pair?

even though it scores so low

[shell dagger]

yes

[median grove]

any tips on how to scale my pair build?

i have bull, jolly, and square

but how do i get mult?

im scoring very low

i guess stuff like ramen, steel joker?

[wicked sequoia]

This is the face of a man who will die to the eye

[gentle basalt]

You want green joker/bus/red card/dagger/supernova

[rancid gull]

Planet levels

[gentle basalt]

Any scaling +mult

[median grove]

i see

okay thanks

rtb?

[gusty crown]

Could possibly the biggest salvage point to have before facing the plant

[vernal breach]

Selling dna here I got like 35 glass polychrome queens. Also got palette so now I can get third ecto and send the run to the moon.

Yeah nvm I cant take it I cant count

[rancid gull]

One wrathful joker and you’ll naninf

[quaint spire]

is the tooth the worst boss blind oat

[warped cradle]

Congrats to roffle for hitting gold stake naneinf twice in a week

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[stark nimbus]

fym

bloodstone so good

[serene forge]

red card is better

[stark nimbus]

what does it do

[quaint spire]

how come everyone i see always have so good of jokers

[serene forge]

mf you called red card trash and you don't even know what it does? 😭

[stark nimbus]

bc i'm lucky

i have 3 constelation w 8 x multiplier

[quaint spire]

i dont even know what that is bro

[stark nimbus]

isnt it the one that gains mult when booster packs are skipped

[serene forge]

copy constellation then

[serene forge]

yes

[stark nimbus]

woah thats smart

lowkey

why the hell do i have bloodstone then?

[serene forge]

good question

[stark nimbus]

no fucking way

thats my second one ever

how am i this lucky

say wallahi

ugh i got yorick

still good though

[light brook]

fire run (and bloodstone)

[stark nimbus]

what

[light brook]

3.5 instances of the goat 🗣️

[light brook]

what do you mean what

it’s a good run

and bloodstones there too

[stark nimbus]

i don't like bloodstone anymore though

[stark nimbus]

i have 3 constellation with 8 x mult

[light brook]

GAH DAYUM 8X

using my goat to the full potential 🔥

can you tell i like consty

i woulda taken the priestess personally to fuel bro soul means nothing

[light brook]

where do you find these trash takes

obviously reddit

[median grove]

is red card good with 3oak / 4oak?

[light brook]

but how far must one scroll

[median grove]

or is it always good

[serene forge]

this was 2nd highest comment

[light brook]

holy white stake ✌️

[serene forge]

it can work

since it's hand agnostic mult

[tender kettle]

can someone help me in modding support

[light brook]

the eye screwed me today i had a double square double supernova run 😞

[serene forge]

but it's best as a pair joker

[light brook]

#⚙・modding-general is for you

#⚙・modding-support perhaps

[tender kettle]

im just really frustrated

cuz the internet wasnt helpful

[light brook]

and i’m dumb and didn’t read the channel sorry i don’t have mod channels

[median grove]

what are the best scaling 4oak / 3oak jokers?

[light brook]

i am personally not a modder, so honestly your best bet is either take it to modding general or wait for someone who can help

[flat warren]

I’m gonna lose this natneg bp huh 😂

[light brook]

why on gods green earth did you take ante 2 baron

[flat warren]

Judgement lol

[serene forge]

why do you not have a scoring joker in ante 2

[flat warren]

Because I eat crayons 😢

[light brook]

so you blew all your money on natneg bp and didn’t bother to get scoring

[flat warren]

I’m learning OKAY

[serene forge]

why is your hand size 7 if that was nat neg

[flat warren]

I LIED

FUCJ

[serene forge]

did you fucking ouija 😭

[light brook]

boooo

[serene forge]

white stake

[light brook]

man ECTOED ante 1

[flat warren]

I’m gonna go sit in the corner now

[light brook]

no no we’re here to help

[flat warren]

I’m dying at my stupidity over here lmao

[light brook]

and shame you

but mainly help

[serene forge]

honestly I can't even blame them since ecto is often a bitch in endless runs

[glass cosmos]

im a beginner do i replace trousers with blueprint (my 2 pair is 420x22)

[serene forge]

butttttt yeah

[serene forge]

sell bloodstone

[flat warren]

Maybe go fish is more my speed 😔

[stoic isle]

-# say your iconic catchphrase

[light brook]

what’s cat at? i’d honestly say replace trousers with bp either way in invest in planets

[median grove]

what are the best 3oak / 4oak jokers?

[light brook]

don’t force a build joker is pretty good

[glass cosmos]

4.5x

just got it

[stark nimbus]

should i use marble deck to win the harder difficulties?

[median grove]

im not forcing it, i have 12 jacks so i want to know what jokers are best for 4oak / 3oak

[light brook]

definitely invest in luckys through arcana and whatever hand you’re playing in planets, you’ll go far

[shell dagger]

xmult

[light brook]

twin what is marble deck

[versed sable]

mm yes baron

[stark nimbus]

the puprle and pink one

[sacred pike]

lol wild never had this before

[light brook]

plasma?

[flat warren]

So do yall just play the first ante regardless of the skip bonuses or do you restart for a good one

[stark nimbus]

no this one

[serene forge]

take investment tag

nothing else is worth

[light brook]

only if it’s investment tag, and even then not all the time

[light brook]

that’s plasma twin

[versed sable]

of all the things to reset for, ante 1 skip tags doesn't seem that high on the list

[stark nimbus]

ohh, then why didn't you just say so

[light brook]

and plasma is actually hard to win on higher antes

[serene forge]

but I take charm tag for the memes because sometimes this happens

plasma sucks

[light brook]

because it doesn’t look like marble to me

[stark nimbus]

me neither

[light brook]

i guess bro i’m not even gonna question it

[versed sable]

lmfao

least coherent thing i'veread today

[serene forge]

have a nice day

[light brook]

not a question

everyone BETTER have a nice day or else

[versed sable]

or else what

[median grove]

okay thanks

[light brook]

wanna find out?

[versed sable]

i probably will, whether i want to or not

w>

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[light brook]

i’ll follow in your footsteps fork

now on i’ll enter with praise for constellation

or hate for bloodstone

[serene forge]

I just saw someone say square joker is bad because it takes 12 hands to equal a stone card

what

[stoic isle]

she fucking said it lets go

[light brook]

what the fuck are these white stake takes

[versed sable]

sob

[light brook]

stone>squoker is crazy work

[stoic isle]

academic ❗

[stark nimbus]

okay but should i use the plasma deck to win hard stakes

just onlocked it

[versed sable]

use anything you want to do higher stakes because if you want completionist+ achievment you'll need to do all of them
lol

[stark nimbus]

how many hours does that take💔

[serene forge]

10 thousand

[versed sable]

at least two

[stark nimbus]

no i mean to complete every stake with every deck

[versed sable]

yeah
at least two hours

[light brook]

no it’s considered the second hardest on higher stakes

[versed sable]

"here, win" -balatro

[stark nimbus]

ig

[vernal breach]

Gg 🫡

[serene forge]

least braindead pair run

[sacred pike]

WHAT IN THE FUCKING SEED LMAO

[tidal pawn]

o7

[sacred pike]

sadly im going for c++ and i got the worst boss possible that chicot cant even even save me while also trying to get a new gold stake...

[tidal pawn]

Reminds me of this run I had

[sacred pike]

sadly mine came so late so my yorick will only be 3x and i will have no time to set up canio or trib

[serene forge]

sell photo

[tidal pawn]

This was like 2 weeks ago lol

[keen crown]

do it anyway

[errant bolt]

do not sell photo.

[chilly turtle]

sell Runner, runner is stinky

[abstract ivy]

I'm dumb

[light brook]

negative fork

are you her antithesis

[light brook]

temperance value

[exotic pike]

lol

[tidal pawn]

Temperance value 😋

[untold basin]

That is a juicy temperance my goodness

[viral raft]

I hate Full house

[light brook]

hot dayum

temperance of absolute joy and riches

[tidal pawn]

I have so many old balala screenshots it's insane

[median grove]

should i get rid of scary face or smiley face for obelisk?

im playing 4oak / 5oak

[next bear]

Hand levels?

[median grove]

5oak is lvl 4 and 4oak is lvl 17

but i have lots of blue seals and i think i will buy obelisk

to play 5oak

and scale thart

[tidal pawn]

Silly showman screenshots

[next bear]

Scary face

[versed sable]

the first one is extremely impressive lmao

[median grove]

or maybe red card? its giving +54 mult but i dont know how good that is

[pastel hatch]

funny gold stake shenanigans

[median grove]

i guess smiley face is objectively worse

[flat warren]

Should I sell any jokers before selling invisible?

[exotic pike]

i love bloodsstone its my favourite joker

[pastel hatch]

man is about to get 0 procs anyway

[exotic pike]

dic

e

[pastel hatch]

ah

makes sense

[exotic pike]

mmmmm

[flat warren]

Is that just eternal bloodstone ankh’d with perkeo? I’m still new lol

[exotic pike]

no

[shell dagger]

Mods

[strange compass]

Can you mod on mobile

[light brook]

only good bloodstone

[light brook]

no

[haughty cairn]

No

[light brook]

actually you can i think

but it’s a big process if so

[strange compass]

Is it the Winlator thing?

Where you emulato PC and have Balatro on that emulated pc?

[light brook]

no clue my dude ask #⚙・modding-general

[haughty cairn]

Do you have an android or iPhone?

[pastel hatch]

i think thats my biggest madness so far

[strange compass]

Android

[haughty cairn]

You probably can then

[strange compass]

I have multiple droids

[strange compass]

I've ran Java MC before on phone

So ye probably possible

[light brook]

agian ask #⚙・modding-general if you’re curious or want more details

[median grove]

any tips on how to improve my 5oak run?

what joker is the weakest link?

so i can make it to ante 13

[mental bloom]

hmmmm

[median grove]

red card is giving + 57 mult... and i guess scary face and cartomancer are not doing much?

[mental bloom]

I guess you could maximise your obelisk if you know what you're doing with it

[median grove]

yeah im switching from 4oak to 5oak

should i get rid of scary face?

i have seltzer in the shop

[mental bloom]

yeah... cartomancer is good but its not gonna bring you to ante 13, scary too

[mental bloom]

this can be good

[median grove]

do you think seltzer is better than scary

[mental bloom]

but you truly need more retrigger jokers

[median grove]

yeah i need sock and busk

[mental bloom]

whats the card you're playing ?

[median grove]

queens

i have 15

[shell dagger]

yes

[mental bloom]

any editions or smt?

[median grove]

a few polychrome and steel / glass / blue seal

[mental bloom]

hmmm

retriggers are good with lucky cards

[errant bolt]

unless you played a lot of 3oak/4oak or something else before switching to 5oak i'd get rid of obelisk

[mental bloom]

though he'll need XMult

[south path]

wait does that actually work well

[errant bolt]

what's obelisk on

[slow iris]

photograph

[south path]

does it still add multipliers

[mental bloom]

depends on how much you're scoring

[median grove]

i played 17 4oak and 19 pairs, and i have 4 5oak right now

[mental bloom]

yea but his goal is ante 13, that won't do

[median grove]

i feel like thats pretty good, right?

[median grove]

x2.4 right now

[south path]

two chads, brainstorm blueprint photograph and cavendish couldnt get me to ante 13

but i didnt have a good deck

[slow iris]

madness doesn't need to destroy a joker in order to scale

[south path]

so idk

[south path]

oh yeah its like seperate things right

like it multiples and destroys

[slow iris]

yes

[mental bloom]

exactly

[median grove]

whats a good xmult for obelisk to be on ante 8-9?

[south path]

i never use obelisk idk how people use it

[errant bolt]

i think you're fine with obelisk for now

[pastel hatch]

i mean it won me the run, so i'd say so

its not like very strong

[errant bolt]

i'd say look for something to replace scary face with

[pastel hatch]

but its good enough

[south path]

scary face is mehh

[median grove]

like chad / sock and busk, right?

[median grove]

im switching from 4oak to 5oak

[south path]

yeah

[mental bloom]

yup

[median grove]

okay thanks guys

[mental bloom]

the more cards you play the more retriggers are important

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[south path]

am i not passing ante 12 because of a bad deck

because i had retriggers

[serene forge]

sell photo

[south path]

are steel cards really that important

[mental bloom]

yeah

[errant bolt]

they're extremely helpful late-game

[serene forge]

context needed

[median grove]

wait im a bit confused on how to play obelisk -- should i be aiming to farm hands per blind?

[mental bloom]

when your mult is already insane and steel cards just boost it

[median grove]

and using high card?

or does it not matter as long as im not playing my most played hand?

[south path]

i had photo, chad, chad, blueprint, brainstorm, cavendish

all i got was 130m in a hand

it was my best run but idk how to get further

[mental bloom]

if you play your most played hand it resets

[tidal pawn]

Did photo hurt you?

[south path]

it gets to a point where everything that i do is all at the same number and it gets annoying

[mental bloom]

so yea you can play other hands as well as your 5oak

[median grove]

FUCK I RESET IT

[south path]

i dont like obelisk for that reason

[median grove]

GAGH

damn

[mental bloom]

yea thats why i think obelisk is complicated dw

[median grove]

i might lose this

[mental bloom]

well, 🫡

[serene forge]

yes

[mental bloom]

most probably

[south path]

bro i literally cannot beat abandoned deck ON WHITE STAKE

[serene forge]

no it's not lol

[tidal pawn]

Oop

[errant bolt]

obelisk buff when

[south path]

the only time i played it my straights, full house, and flush were all at 7

it was annoying

[mental bloom]

trib in the Soul trust trust

[serene forge]

if that actually happens that's genuinely impressive because there is no way in hell you're playing an equal amount of straight flush, flush five, whatever

[south path]

it was early on i dont know why i decided to pick up obelisk

so no flush fives

is it actually a lot better later on

[serene forge]

yeah so you used it wrong

[median grove]

i got a 1,000,000!

we chill!

[serene forge]

you stack pairs with obelisk

then you play literally anything else

[mental bloom]

niceeee!!!

photo tanking rn

[south path]

oh

[median grove]

so should i farm as many hands as possible with obelisk?

[shell dagger]

bro that’s more than naneinf

[south path]

yeah that seems good

i dont know why i used it so badly

[serene forge]

it's okay

it's not obvious how to use at first glance