🕹・game-discussion

[pale wolf]

The first two stakes after white are harder than white stake? good point ... this should be fixed

[vestal copper]

1.2mil vv is brutal

[pale wolf]

oh wait I forgot there's green in between

[frank grove]

theres green and black between

[echo sphinx]

kek

[mellow surge]

Red stake itself isn’t very bad but when you’re on later stakes having that small blind money would be MASSIVE

[echo sphinx]

if red was "-$1 Reward from Blinds", would it be better tho

[strange compass]

I've had two savefiles on Balatro and I've always felt a difficulty spike from white to red

[pale wolf]

i dont think the game needs to be easier, just less encouraging of small hand spam

[frank grove]

I agree

[vestal copper]

the game needs to be a bit harder

[mellow surge]

I agree, its a big jump, just not that hard if you have a lot of time in the game

[cloud sinew]

Red stake is pretty bad but because of how early it is it doesnt feel like a big deal. its a worse jump than gold or orange but not green/purple or blue

[strange compass]

Idk I just don't like how quickly the game drills it in that you should one shot small blinds

[mellow surge]

I think gold and orange are the biggest jumps aside from blue

[frank grove]

purple is harder than orange and gold

[echo sphinx]

ehh, orange gold is just a bit janky

[pale wolf]

the biggest jump in difficulty is purple imo but thats because of the compounding effect of blue + green

[vestal copper]

purple is a guaranteed difficulty spike

[echo sphinx]

purple spike is much real

[versed sable]

from my experience the only one that really felt bad was blue stake
everything else is just "yeah it makes it harder, and it wouldn't be too bad without all the other stuff"
but blue is immediately annoying

[strange compass]

Ye I don't stay on orange stakes for that long

[mellow surge]

Orange and gold combined invalidate like 2/3 of the jokers you see or make you at least have to work around them

[echo sphinx]

if red stake swapped its stake effect with any other stake, that stake is the second blue stake

[pale wolf]

also the stake difficulty jumps are different depending on deck

[vestal copper]

gold just makes early game worse while orange just makes it a bit harder overall

[pale wolf]

purple plasma is a huge step

[dreamy girder]

I just got a round 1 blueprint with spectral

[echo sphinx]

econ is the name of the game and red stake remoes $3 money from every small blind

[strange compass]

Ah yes. I've lost alot to mid ante walls or needle in that deck

[mellow surge]

3$ an ante should be < 10% of your Econ mid/late game tho

[vestal copper]

and thats why red stake sucks

[stone shell]

too broke to afford it thats so sad

[dreamy girder]

Yuuuup

[echo sphinx]

in early it delays the interest cap by 2 rounds

[dreamy girder]

Krilling myself, gotta play it through to get the seed tho

[strange compass]

Can't even afford any of them 😭

I think red stake should just halve the money

[stone shell]

she can afford fortune teller by selling hex ig

[strange compass]

Not completely erase it

[stone shell]

its foil anyway so you cant hex it

[vestal copper]

if she played on gold stake one of them couldve only costed 1 buck!!!

[echo sphinx]

hex for foiled fortune or smth idk

[mellow surge]

I think red incentivizes skipping on later stakes that you probably would be less likely to do

[strange compass]

People gloss over it cuz red stake is the first an doesn't have any other effects from previous stakes.

[vestal copper]

skipping

quogplush~1

[echo sphinx]

exactly

[dreamy girder]

Yup

Chat, do i play the long game or go for the meme

[echo sphinx]

yer in round 3 chill dog

[stone shell]

death the popcorn into fortune teller trust

[pure schooner]

Hey does anyone know why a full unlocked account has a higher probability for more cards rare/soul cards appearing

Cause it feels like wnv i play on my casual run account i unlock bp bs or a legendary almost every other run

[keen pilot]

Beautiful start to a naneinf attempt lol

[pure schooner]

Enough burglars means we dont need an econ joker

[mental bloom]

Does it ?

[versed sable]

it doesn't,,

[echo sphinx]

i imagine swapping red with gold

rental ok pretty meh to bad but u got money so no problem
green ok more scoring, just need to recognize better jokers/start planets or smth
eternal ok pretty 2-bladed but u got money so no problem just reroll for different ones
blue E W
purple ok even MORE scoring, need to seriously deckfix. got money tho so no problem
perishable bleh now rental jokers are perishable, still pretty bad but at least they work for 5 rounds and you have money to pivot so no problem

gold Oh no, no money no interest... now all the previous stakes hit harder

[mental bloom]

Yeah I don't think it does

[pure schooner]

Bruh

[echo sphinx]

how

[pure schooner]

Ive been playing for 2 weeks max

[pure schooner]

TELL ME HOW

Wait let me get my normal accpunt

[mental bloom]

luck

[versed sable]

,

[mental bloom]

France detected

[strange compass]

Idk I don't think rentals should be in the first stake of the game

[keen pilot]

8 bucks from hands lul

[mental bloom]

🇫🇷

[versed sable]

Meows at you in french
miaou

[pure schooner]

YEA BUT MY ACCTS TWO WEEKS😭

[versed sable]

me when seeded runner

[mental bloom]

LOL miaou indeed

[pure schooner]

Yea i never run seeded

[pure schooner]

This is my normal account

[haughty cairn]

Yeah sometimes

[rose geyser]

turns out selling stuntman was a bad idea

[versed sable]

stats can't really show seeded things

lol

[pure schooner]

See cuz how tf yall have 180 souls on your normal account

😭😭🥹 i want a soul card thats not a perkeo

It took me like 3 monthes to find triboulet

[versed sable]

because i take almost every soul that i see

qwq

[smoky niche]

my last 3 souls were all chicot 🥀

[pure schooner]

I got 3 chicots on one seed.

[mental bloom]

peak

chicot slander will not be tolerated

[pure schooner]

Luchagoat better

[smoky niche]

i simply needed space for points and had to cut the man

[mental bloom]

I get your point

[pure schooner]

Atleast we can agree idols overrated

[mental bloom]

facts

tupidest joker

[pure schooner]

Idol litterally takes more setup then baron mime and is STILL not sustainable for naneinf

[abstract vapor]

What do I even sell here...

[pale wolf]

did you know that luchador is one of the legendary jokers in disguise?

[pure schooner]

Idol

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156721486288126023/1453355725584728075/InShot_20251217_162926563.mp4?ex=69bd35ff&is=69bbe47f&hm=7f36d6b0c6a04c2bd241b1501cf5295111fe8c9d2393203067256d889fd832b4&

[mental bloom]

idol definitely

[smoky niche]

yeah idol does absolutely nothing here

[mental bloom]

vro is useless with a deck like this

[pure schooner]

Brainstorm the chad and your set for ante 8

[abstract vapor]

I wanna take this late game though and idol scales better

[smoky niche]

you can find it again late game

[mental bloom]

seeing so much idol hate makes me happy

[pure schooner]

U can find again late game

[abstract vapor]

Fair enough

[smoky niche]

and you have plenty of time before your deck becomes usable for idol at all

[pure schooner]

Rebate + bs can boost econ

But i would do gold red seal kings for safety

Cause if ur fixing for idol ur rebate becomes more useless

[mental bloom]

yea try to get a mime

[mental bloom]

factual

[pure schooner]

A mime would do wonders if it replaces the buskin

[smoky niche]

all roads lead to baron mime

[mental bloom]

HIGH CARD RUNSYAYAYAYYA

[pure schooner]

I once got a pack with a mime and a photograph

[mental bloom]

holy peak

[pure schooner]

It felt like it was asking me a deeper spiritual question

Are you a long term mime player or a short term photochad enjoyer

[rose geyser]

i've been doing a few boss-only runs and i find them very fun

[smoky niche]

the feeling when riffraff drops you the photochad

[pure schooner]

A boss only run how

[mental bloom]

mime FOR SURE

[pure schooner]

I think i took mime then

It helped esrly econ

[rose geyser]

skipping both small and big blinds, forcing you to play only boss blinds

[errant bolt]

mime + blue seals 👌

[pure schooner]

Interesting idea

Im going to try it today

The venn diagram of ppl that like maths and are addicted to balatro is a full circle btw

[versed sable]

mime

[mental bloom]

W

[mental bloom]

I did that before yea, won 2 or 3 times

Plasmic or Checkered make it easier

[pure schooner]

Ima a masochist im gonna try it on my 2nd fav deck

Black deck

[unreal vine]

Painted underrated

[rose geyser]

using plasma is especially fun

[pure schooner]

Ive only played and beat painted once to get invis joker unlocked

[frank grove]

all the x mult you ever need

[mental bloom]

Hell YEAH

[unreal vine]

Yo:rick

[pure schooner]

Looks like u need a madness

[mental bloom]

o damn what a run 😭

[frank grove]

I got yorick kinda late its only .5 ahead of hologram at 5x

[pure schooner]

Yorick scales quick with the right vouchers and jokers

[wanton hare]

Beautiful

[frank grove]

Yeah i got good vouchers for nova though so that was nice

[pure schooner]

I got merry andy and yorick on a run

[unreal vine]

Yesterday my idol chose hitting a king of spades in my 29 cards deck with red seal 2s

[smoky niche]

only 5x

[pure schooner]

I wish i saved the seed it was pure peak

[frank grove]

My holo is at 4.5 and vampire is at 3.4 which isnt too bad

[pure schooner]

How are you feeding vampire

[unreal vine]

How the hell do u play vampire without midas

[frank grove]

using standard packs to scale hologram gives random enhanced cards, and i got tarot merchant

[versed sable]

Souls of the people with failed runs

[pure schooner]

Vampire without midas mask feels risky as an eternal

[frank grove]

as well as opening every single arcana pack in the game

[smoky niche]

honestly you can get it to like 2.5x or 3x with tarots alone

[frank grove]

nah its easy to get it to a decent 2.5-3x

[unreal vine]

Fr

[keen pilot]

that's new

[frank grove]

which is enough for ante 8

[smoky niche]

although its very slow icl

[unreal vine]

Never tried

[frank grove]

oh and a few purple seals helped

[pure schooner]

The only guy worse then the damn wheel

But worth it as a negative

[unreal vine]

Portable wheel

[versed sable]

space joker is great :3
-# <- endless runner

[smoky niche]

burnt joker at home

[unreal vine]

U hate face cards I see

[frank grove]

I mean im on abandoned

[pure schooner]

Abandoned deck

[cloud sinew]

spoker is quite good in lobotomy

[unreal vine]

Ah sorry

[frank grove]

and im taking cards i can play in pairs or two pairs from packs

[unreal vine]

Didn't see it

My bad

[frank grove]

to scale vamp

[unreal vine]

Phew

[molten thicket]

why are we struggling on plasma white with a wee

[keen pilot]

works well enough with blueprint and burglar lul

[smoky niche]

because its ante 2 and probably at like +16 chips

[unreal vine]

Wee small bling had like 12 chips, bottom deck 2 2s

[molten thicket]

even then with scholar he should be 1shotting

[cloud sinew]

ante 2 is fine on plasma without any extra scoring

[cloud sinew]

scholar is inconsistent

[unreal vine]

After that I got some interesting stuff

[versed sable]

2400 is two 5card hands on plasma

[smoky niche]

scholar is buns

[molten thicket]

even with bottomdeck you can clear in 1-2 hands

[versed sable]

you should be fine if you just look for 2s and As though

[molten thicket]

but whatever

[smoky niche]

i took an ante 1 eternal scholar and promptly died because he did jack shit

[unreal vine]

And the run continued

Is the same run I promise

[vestal copper]

where is the wee

[unreal vine]

Had to sell it 😭

[vestal copper]

nvm actually but its funny

[cloud sinew]

dead because he does nothing in endless relative to xmult

[vestal copper]

yeah

[frank grove]

big wee though!!!

[cloud sinew]

chips only plasma dies ante 13 at the latest typically

[unreal vine]

Ended up with 1000 chips only

[vestal copper]

but still i see 2s my brain goes weeeeeeeee

[unreal vine]

And after this round my idol chose a king of spades instead of one of my 25 2s

23*

[vestal copper]

😔

[keen pilot]

Reading the boss blind explains the boss blind

[vestal copper]

thats idol for you

[unreal vine]

But I guess I won't get more than e50?

[smoky niche]

what even are your jokers though

[unreal vine]

With glass ones

[unreal vine]

Interesting build

[smoky niche]

this is just 6 non scoring jokers

[cloud sinew]

the build is good its just countered by Eye

[oak charm]

Guys when are we getting that big 2024 update that would add a bunch of new jokers, decks and bosses.. 😭 😭 😭

[smoky niche]

are you going off purely on hand levels

[keen pilot]

I was just high-card maxxing

lvl 17

[smoky niche]

what level is your high card

huh

[cloud sinew]

It wasnt meant for 2024 it was announced for 2025, also it was delayed #📢・announcements

[cloud sinew]

double burglar double space joker

[unreal vine]

Ask thunk

[cloud sinew]

its decent scaling

[smoky niche]

yeah i see it

doesnt seem that sustainable though

[cloud sinew]

Its out when its out, dont ask thunk.

[keen pilot]

I even played my only glass king as a high card, but that barely mattered lol

[unreal vine]

Btw didn't see thunk in a while

[cloud sinew]

2.5 levels a round seems fine

[noble shuttle]

Is this good? Is it balanced?

[smoky niche]

dunno how the math looks on that

[unreal vine]

Solid

[noble shuttle]

Like all legendary jokers, Claus Narr is a real jester.

[smoky niche]

pairslopmaxxing

[unreal vine]

Burglar synergy

[cloud sinew]

Not a legendary effect really

[noble shuttle]

Welllllllllllllllll

[cloud sinew]

also just pairslop

[noble shuttle]

I tried

Fellow T-Fem :3

[cloud sinew]

its 5 levels a round actually, so +5 +50

[smoky niche]

its a 4x better spaceman

[noble shuttle]

Yep.

Too good for rare

[smoky niche]

we should add a new rarity called super rare fr

[strange compass]

What would you guys do here

[cloud sinew]

Take stuntman and go next

[noble shuttle]

Nah

[unreal vine]

Need a joker that only allows you to win on last hand, what do y'all think?

[noble shuttle]

Me too.

[noble shuttle]

Acrobat

[oak charm]

Do we have any hints of when it got delayed to? I couldn't find the announcement if its on there.

[unreal vine]

Not that way

[strange compass]

I wanna get Chad for Steven triggers

[keen pilot]

perfect time for ecto

[oak charm]

Thanks

[smoky niche]

this is actively detrimental without scaling jokers and even then idk if you want this most of the time

[unreal vine]

Like don't allow you to beat the blind until last hand

[strange compass]

That's Acrobat

[frank grove]

Dusk as well

[strange compass]

Thoughts?

[noble shuttle]

Guys what do we think the new banana will be?

[strange compass]

I lowkey wanna buy Chad and Stuntman

[frank grove]

Im taking stunt and going next

[unreal vine]

Ecto egg

[noble shuttle]

Temprence.

[strange compass]

I'll do that then.

[unreal vine]

40 dola per temperance

[strange compass]

I was thinking to get both of them

Or even just chad

[noble shuttle]

What do we think the new banana joker will be?

[versed sable]

if you don't use deja vu i will personally use flamethrower in your general direction

[keen pilot]

I did ofc, don't worry xP

[noble shuttle]

I would NOT use ecto.

[versed sable]

good

[keen pilot]

Yeah, that was a joke, I'm doing naneinf attempts

[unreal vine]

Good luck then

[noble shuttle]

Guess no banana discussion then 3:

[unreal vine]

New banana joker?

[versed sable]

i have no ideas

[noble shuttle]

Yeah, thunk leaked a new banana joker

[unreal vine]

No way

[noble shuttle]

I'm hopin chips

[vestal copper]

x2 chips ☠️

[smoky niche]

perishable gros michel try to die before timing out challenge

[noble shuttle]

Nah.

[unreal vine]

Plasma deck.

[vestal copper]

xchips will never be added luckily

[smoky niche]

its literally the same as xmult outside plasma 🙏 🙏

[vestal copper]

yeah

[unreal vine]

X5 mult if you have michel and Cavendish

I guess it's horrible

[noble shuttle]

People say you should unlock it by extinct cavendish

I say

no

[smoky niche]

so never

[unreal vine]

Dice synergy

[noble shuttle]

I say it only shows when you have Gros Michel in your slots and NOT extinct.

[unreal vine]

Still impossible

[vestal copper]

so never

[smoky niche]

5 dice synergy

[unreal vine]

Fr

[smoky niche]

speculative ankh on eternal oops

[noble shuttle]

I do wonder what it would do.

Money maybe?

[unreal vine]

More gambling let's go

[unreal vine]

X2 money

[wraith slate]

naneinf time

[noble shuttle]

Broken

[keen pilot]

Why must the game do this to me

[smoky niche]

sell strength

[keen pilot]

suffering from success

[smoky niche]

probably

[unreal vine]

What's that monstrosity in the joker slots

[noble shuttle]

As Doc' says.
Two Tarots upstrairs go next.

[keen pilot]

I got a red seal queen and red seal jack tho

[smoky niche]

has anyone ever fully consumed ice cream

what does it even say

[noble shuttle]

eaten

[frank grove]

me too chips would be cool

[unreal vine]

Eaten I guess

Or melted

[noble shuttle]

ya

[smoky niche]

thats gotta be an achievement

[frank grove]

It says melted

[smoky niche]

eat every food joker in a run

[vestal copper]

huh

[unreal vine]

That's an interesting one

[versed sable]

cav:

[unreal vine]

Cavendish ante 39

Still alive

[noble shuttle]

I hate how run achievements only count up to ante 8

Makes sense though.

[smoky niche]

we gotta leave out cav

[unreal vine]

Is impossible to unlock everything in balatro in one run right?

[noble shuttle]

Yeah.

Cause

Mr.Bones.

[wraith slate]

no, you just gotta get like 8 oops all sixes and it'll be fine

[frank grove]

Yeah some are impossible but you can do quite a few in one run

[frail ingot]

Hi is this order right

[smoky niche]

we are not getting 8 oops and eating the other foods at the same time

and surviving

[frank grove]

Doc did a video about this like a year ago or something iirc

[unreal vine]

Bean Ice Cream Michel Popcorn?

[versed sable]

i think an achievement for this but not all in one run could be fun
since usually you just sell it before it dies like that

[smoky niche]

surely copying trib is better

[smoky niche]

i guess

who even finishes ice cream

[frail ingot]

I am still shaping the deck but thx

[versed sable]

probably me once or twice on accident

[unreal vine]

10 chips ice cream is huge

[reef axle]

if this is not a joke then swap chad with trib and don't forget to swap with mime at the end of round so you get extra bonus

[noble shuttle]

Perfect.

[strange compass]

Is BP worth getting here?

[noble shuttle]

I'd sell even.

[errant bolt]

Somehow have managed to make photchad work decently on abandoned deck green stake lmao

[noble shuttle]

I had a chadphotochad run with paredolia on abandoned.

[strange compass]

Can BP copy giftwrap

[noble shuttle]

Uh

I don't think so.

But

Copying Seeing Double

Would be good

[daring gazelle]

Replace something with splash?

[molten thicket]

why

[noble shuttle]

Nah

[strange compass]

Maybe but I don't get seeing double that consistently and double poly stevens give 3x mult

[echo sphinx]

nah, no reason to

[strange compass]

I am playing 3oaks rn

[echo sphinx]

youre playing str8s so like why splash lol

[noble shuttle]

Uh, no. Actually two polychrome is 2.25x and blueprint doesn't copy polychrome

Try playing twords Seeing Double.

[strange compass]

Ok I'll sell steven

[noble shuttle]

Good :3

Now copy double and try to play for it.

[pure schooner]

So i failed trying black deck boss only

And i and i went to plasma deck

And the balatro gods are either mocking me or

[vestal copper]

god

[molten thicket]

why did you take the voucher tags

[dreamy girder]

Rarer cards usually have more difficult unlock requirements, so it takes a while to get enough

[pure schooner]

Ive already unlocked them all on my main account they still appear like 1/10ths the time

[pure schooner]

Boss only run

[molten thicket]

o

[pure schooner]

Surprisngly got to ante 6 without any chip jokers

On plasma deck

Ofc died to the plant

[coarse dew]

Plasma is so busted

it scales so fast

[terse vale]

on purple & below,,

[strange compass]

This was nice

[coarse dew]

i mean above purple everything becomes alot more troubling

[noble shuttle]

"Blue stake is the hardest stake"
The humble purple stake:

[astral arch]

....

[rich mauve]

chat do you think tags would be great if they allowed you to see the shops?

[noble shuttle]

Whoopsies

[astral arch]

this was my first ever baron mime run

🥲

[versed sable]

lot more usable
probably still balanced overall although it means stuff like investment tag and economy tag are often just free money with no downside

[terse vale]

but plasma goes from the best to one of the worst

[daring gazelle]

Should I Reroll the boss blind?

May god be on my side…

[echo sphinx]

drag 10 to slot 1

[daring gazelle]

I MADE IT

[echo sphinx]

then drag blueprint to slot 4

[daring gazelle]

YAY

[echo sphinx]

yippie

[flint walrus]

lmfao silly seed i found

[white anvil]

How am i so lucky

[burnt gale]

Let's go, my first naneinf (no seeded run). Took me 300+h from absolute newbie to c++ and naneinf.

also those DNA's are negative, idk why with saturn, speed and handy mod this does this, but somehow my game is broken. Game just doesn't show to negative edition on it

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[burnt gale]

understandable.

[brave goblet]

Least braindead pairslop run

Deadass pulled burglar and midas mask from magic deck's fooled judgments

[fleet cobalt]

I should skip for +3 mult right?

[burnt gale]

Dunno how much you score, but since you have green joker I would just sell the red card and gamba for soul shard

[dreamy girder]

Same seed, theyre taunting me

[rich mauve]

what would you do if you have received a bloodstone on your birthday?

[fleet cobalt]

Chicot

[vestal copper]

me when blackboard

[terse vale]

business card goes

[vestal copper]

+1 joker slot is such a ridiculous buff

[terse vale]

and why do you have green joker and red card

[terse vale]

ridiculously poopy

[terse vale]

BUT

[fleet cobalt]

It's just a green stake, I'm not thinking

[serene forge]

[redacted]

[terse vale]

IF YOU MEAN NEGATIVE

[terse vale]

better to build good habits now tho ,,,

[vestal copper]

whats wrong with them

[austere whale]

Obelisk is sooo strong

Like holyy

[fleet cobalt]

I've already beat Gold Stake 7 times let me have some fun

[austere whale]

Who needs chips

[serene forge]

I hate Business Card

[slender mauve]

banana goes? not too bothered about endless, i got the chip i wanted, but kinda want to know what the play is...

oh, i probably won't survive till invisible hits without banana

[molten thicket]

why not onyx

[slender mauve]

I tried playing non-clubs and I'd just die

[molten thicket]

low base mult?

[dry sail]

😭

[slender mauve]

playing high cards mostly, and yeah it's not great

[slender mauve]

i do have 3oak decently leveled, but the deck is too big

[night turret]

Do we go for the crypid or the immo?

[jolly relic]

whats honeypot

is that a new joker

[slender mauve]

i mean i won, might as well just try... will drop onyx, will see how it goes

[molten thicket]

immo def

[jolly relic]

purple seal on the jack

[slender mauve]

well, I'm not dead, yet, 3oak was good enough

but close

[cosmic sun]

You look like you could really use the money

[slender mauve]

ok, so banana goes now, right?

(invisible is active)

[molten thicket]

yeaaa

[slender mauve]

yay, landed on bp

thanks

[daring gazelle]

Time for PhotoChad

[night turret]

So that’s 2 on immo and one for the tarot

We hit immo and see what fucks up

IT DIDNT HIT THE JACK

[versed sable]

is this good amount of hands :3

[fallen anvil]

lovely

[daring gazelle]

PhotoChad is one of the best strategies hear me out

WITH SOCK?

[night turret]

Good bye odd Todd, you’ve served me well

[daring gazelle]

I just got S&B. Perfect for PhotoChad Strat

[night turret]

JUST THE MAN I WAS LOOKING FOR

[daring gazelle]

Rate my joker build :]

[cold stone]

might wanna copy the photograph for higher scoring

[daring gazelle]

Yeah, but less doubling

[spark kernel]

Which ones better bluepring facing hack or bluepring facing fib

[daring gazelle]

Bluepring is lowk crazy

No offense

[spark kernel]

But whats the best blue print placement for my build

[cold stone]

copy chad is 6 triggers 1 double each copy photo is 4 triggers 2 doubles each

[daring gazelle]

Talking about how you spelled blueprint lol

[spark kernel]

Is my blueprint placement good

[frank grove]

i think copying trio is better here

[spark kernel]

Ive put an updated image

[daring gazelle]

ULTRA COMBO

OH GOD

[molten thicket]

goated

[stark nimbus]

do i sell arrow head for dusk here?

[night turret]

Nah brainstorm

[stark nimbus]

fym

no

why

[molten thicket]

don't sell

[terse vale]

sell hack

[molten thicket]

take nothing

[stark nimbus]

but my deck isnt powerfull enough

okay

[terse vale]

so sell hack I mran chad

[spark kernel]

Evrey 10 packs i get black hole wehn its meant to be 1 in 100 (and i cant even hit a 1 in 4)

[terse vale]

I meANT CHAD

and take the voucher don’t forget

[night turret]

I’m fucking with you

Chad has to go

[errant bolt]

should i have bp copy chad, blood or photo

[frank grove]

Blackhole has a 0.3% chance to replace a card in a celest/spec pack, so its 3/1000

[stark nimbus]

why wallahi

[night turret]

What the deck looking like

Do you have it thinned to faces?

[errant bolt]

Lots of hearts, on abandoned green but have enough faces to consistently do photochad

[latent ravine]

ha ha

[night turret]

Hmmmm somethings wrong I can feel it

[daring gazelle]

Another win! Seed included if you wanna have a PhotoChad run.

(Must play on ghost deck)

[stark nimbus]

what about here

[daring gazelle]

What’s the problem

[molten thicket]

damn the souls are coming so often

[night turret]

Ehhh I say you skip shop

Take the planet pack tho

[daring gazelle]

Yeah most likely

[night turret]

Man I wonder what you should sell

[stark nimbus]

but i could sell chad for the campfire

[molten thicket]

sold the 2pair one

[stark nimbus]

wouldn't that be good

[molten thicket]

can't remember the first page joker names for the life of me

[serene forge]

the jokes write themselves

[terse vale]

because only really the last hand would matter

[night turret]

Do you have enough to sell to get campfire value?

[night turret]

What did you get?

[stark nimbus]

i don't know

still did it though

[molten thicket]

chicot

[terse vale]

chad still goes!

[night turret]

The goat!

[night turret]

I really do wanna try these seeds out to see what I can get

[spark kernel]

WHAT 😭 🙏

[serene forge]

super doomed yuri

[night turret]

It’s a sign dawg

[thick fossil]

The best use of Joker Stencil I've ever done

[night turret]

Seed?

[latent ravine]

MORE HANDS

[stark karma]

Joker Idea:
Archer
Uncommon
Effects that target a random joker only target the leftmost joker

[loud flicker]

I would say selling chad (or smiley if you have card enhancements) here is probably optimal in the sense that you can get the most scoring most consistently with best play but for white stake you really don’t need it since keeping this set up usually wins anyway and much easier to pilot than campfire

Keep in mind that it’s not a game for high scores it’s a game of thresholds so the easiest option is actually more “optimal”

But then again if you’re new experimenting with and learning how to optimize campfire is certainly a great way to improve so pick whatever your heart desires

[molten thicket]

hella broken

[stark karma]

Why

[molten thicket]

hm

[stark karma]

lol

[molten thicket]

wait lemme think

[loud flicker]

How many things does that affect

Like 5 tops?

[stark karma]

Anything that says random joker

It affects some awesome things

Madness, Invisible, Ankh, Crimson Heart, Ectoplasm, Wheel

[molten thicket]

kills crimson lol

[nova leaf]

They don't call me Chippy for no reason

[molten thicket]

crimson is just dead with that

[stark karma]

Well it still debuffs a joker

[loud flicker]

Crimson just becomes leaf but different

[stark karma]

I think it’s just a good Utility Joker

It can help out

It cannot

It depends if you find something for it to do

[nova leaf]

Do I lose the extra hands when I sell burglar?

[molten thicket]

nope

[stark karma]

If you do find something for it to do it’s amazing

[nova leaf]

Alright

[ivory portal]

Love me a stencil

[brave goblet]

Red card pairslop (my poor negative bean died)

[brave goblet]

Hex ankh in the next mega spectral pack

[nova leaf]

I love chips

Bull is so fun to use

I also got this screenshot which is funny

[humble gulch]

Uh, I mean...

[fickle trellis]

ough

[dull ridge]

Should I sell something for blueprint?

[vestal copper]

here, win

[dull ridge]

I got 32 on fortune teller

[stark nimbus]

@dull ridge er du norsk

[dull ridge]

Huh

[nova leaf]

Why is Hologram to the left of trousers

[dull ridge]

What does that even mean

[stark nimbus]

nvm

you're fake

[fickle trellis]

brainstorm

[dull ridge]

Okay? Ig

[fickle trellis]

that screenshot is like two weeks old btw so if you have questions go take it up with me from two weeks ago

[dull ridge]

Anyways.. any tips?

[night turret]

Best skip tag ever

[noble shuttle]

Blue seals are getting a nerf... right?

Or am I just wrong.

[molten thicket]

maybe?

[noble shuttle]

. . .

[molten thicket]

and how would you nerf blue seals?

[noble shuttle]

Idk

I swear I hear Doc' talk about it

[dull ridge]

Mid skip

[noble shuttle]

It's a good skip.

Definitely not mid.

[dull ridge]

Out of all tags you think that’s good?

[noble shuttle]

Wow

[molten thicket]

interesting ante 8 setup

[noble shuttle]

Just wow

[robust lance]

Money 🤑 🤑 🤑

[noble shuttle]

You are very obviously unskilled or a beginner. I am hoping a beginner.

Or

You play green deck

[molten thicket]

i mean investment tag is good

[robust lance]

“Rage bait or brain damage, you call it” gif here

[dull ridge]

It’d be good if you’re on the first antes

[robust lance]

Reminded me of that

[noble shuttle]

I'm not tryna be 😭

[molten thicket]

just that it's ante 8

[robust lance]

Not you tho relax

[terse vale]

its like the only good one

[noble shuttle]

Yeah.

[night turret]

Yeah and it fucked me

[noble shuttle]

Voucher skip is rarely.

[noble shuttle]

okie

[robust lance]

Dude… can we insult you?

[noble shuttle]

That's mean 3:<

[molten thicket]

no shit

[robust lance]

I’m asking for permission

[night turret]

You can just white stake me and carry on

I’m just testing out different jokers

[noble shuttle]

Fair enough.

[robust lance]

Nah that’s overused

[night turret]

Yeah but it’s a soild one

[molten thicket]

just boo him and pelt him with rocks

[robust lance]

Plus it’s more of a middle finger alt reaction than anything

[night turret]

Stone me like they did the witches back in the day

[robust lance]

At least when I’ve seen it

[night turret]

The fact this is the only deck I haven’t beated yet

Is so infuriating

[meager narwhal]

That's just wrong, man

[lost vault]

credit card in credit pack

actually doesnt even need to be cc just any rare joker'll do

wait no

blueprint or brainstorm would do

[spring thicket]

WHAT IS THIS SEED

[mossy spire]

turtle bean

[high gazelle]

Are there any updates for 1.1? I haven't played Balatro in a while

[lost vault]

last we got is "it is definitely coming out" and "its out when its out"

theres also been a few small leaks

like that banana

[jagged cliff]

did someone say banana

[knotty chasm]

Hey, so the Switch 2 version is free for owners of the Switch 1 version. Does anyone know if the save transfers too?

[lost vault]

probably nort

but idkk

[austere whale]

Flush house is kinda goated

[austere whale]

(When you get pants and smeared and canio)

[idle kernel]

balatro music

[knotty chasm]

My Switch 2 is in the mail so I'll report back

[brave goblet]

Goodbye red card

[heavy heron]

well that was a hard seed

[brave goblet]

Pairslop supremacy

[heavy heron]

as it turns out, saving all your money for bull and skipping 90% of packs for red card

makes it hard to set up glass

[brave goblet]

Ye lmao

Not to mention no rerolling

[heavy heron]

yup!

[sterile quartz]

orange stake finally done

[safe flower]

Shop 1, mystic summit or half joker

[grizzled robin]

but tbf all stakes are easy if you stop taking random eternals and instead play for photochad

not targeted at you just saying in general

[grizzled robin]

half better

[stone shell]

i would take mystic

[wraith slate]

some light rolldown

[versed sable]

mmmm moneys

[wraith slate]

mmm, naneinf with many kings to spare

[lost vault]

uuurm bean bug is cheating

nerd emoji

[wraith slate]

how else am I supposed to get ante 39 on unseeded unmodded balatro with every deck

and don't say roll for perkeo, I am not doing that

[lost vault]

why do you need to do that on every deck

[wraith slate]

for fun lol

[lost vault]

that does not sound fun in any way shape or form

[wraith slate]

bean bug dopamine is the best

copious amounts of hand size and copious amounts of money 🙂

[versed sable]

on a related note

[lost vault]

but its just the same thing every time

[versed sable]

i am currently playing out the ante 31 Serpent

[lost vault]

😭

[versed sable]

almost time to get to do something interesting again !!

-# also this is the first time i've had 40+ hands for one round lmao

[wraith slate]

w

[versed sable]

-# 10 copying jokers and two burglars -w-

-# (couldn't find another bp/bs)

[heavy heron]

BROOOOOooo vagabond is so fun holyyyy

[wraith slate]

also it isn't necessarily the same thing every time, depending on nat negatives, I've gone for different funny things towards the end

like a x300.000001 floating point error negative tag constellation

[lost vault]

the process is still the same though

[wraith slate]

or level 5000 high card

[torpid bridge]

Our gold stake tierlist

[lost vault]

our? who is this "our"

[versed sable]

chicot below luchador 🔥

[heavy heron]

move vagabond to S pls

thank you

[lost vault]

chicot in f is unfathomable slander

[wraith slate]

matador being f tier is only bc you don't know what bosses to use it on

[heavy heron]

also how is idol above egg

[lost vault]

actually so many things in this tier list are atrocious

[heavy heron]

or erosion

or rough gem

[lost vault]

when you make a tier list

[heavy heron]

OR OBELISK

[lost vault]

it cant consider both endless and ante 8

becasue they are so vastly different in their metas

[cursive lion]

balatro is on sale fyi!

[heavy heron]

yeaaaa

[versed sable]

did you see bus

[heavy heron]

but it says “our gold stake” tier list

implying ante 8

[heavy heron]

no i dont even see it

[lost vault]

if it was ante 8 idol wouldnt be anywhere but f

[versed sable]

look further down

[heavy heron]

F

WTF

personally i’m not a big bus guy but i do know how strong it is

[versed sable]

also trib top tier is questionable

i know it's good but like

plant exists

[lost vault]

trib is definitely not better than the big Rick

[heavy heron]

considering the run i have EVERY TIME i find vagabond, i don’t know how it can belong anywhere but S

[versed sable]

and baron up there is silly

[brave goblet]

Discount trib

[brave goblet]

Problem is it's good but not so good you'd be willing to nuke all your economy just to get it

[heavy heron]

i’d 100% nuke all my econ to get it

i have 0 doubts doing it

[lost vault]

speak for yourself i would do that in a heartbeat

[brave goblet]

[lost vault]

vagabond is an econ joker

[brave goblet]

Cursed mentalities

[lost vault]

it literally

makes you money

how would it not be

[brave goblet]

With econ you can do everything vagabond gives you, while also not being homeless (a vagabond get it)

[olive stirrup]

Oops all sixes irl

[heavy heron]

hey man vagabond’s words not mine, he said it himself “i’m great!! im worth having $0” he says it in these videos

[pure schooner]

[lost vault]

its pretty hard to get 4 tarots per round consistently with an aberage economy

[heavy heron]

that’s not true at all

[lost vault]

and also

vagabond is an econ joker

it gives you money to buy MORE tarots

[heavy heron]

you can have $1000 and not get the same tarots you find w vagabond

[lost vault]

like cluh

[heavy heron]

because you get tarots in round

tarots in shop is limited

[brave goblet]

purple seals

[heavy heron]

to packs + whatever you find w rerolls that you can keep in inventory

[brave goblet]

there are lots of ways to get tarots

[heavy heron]

which btw is limited to 2-3 slots

[heavy heron]

yeah agreed

[lost vault]

you cant just summon purple seals out of nowhere

also

use both

[brave goblet]

Yes I can

[lost vault]

purples and vagabond

:3

[heavy heron]

purple seals are great but you kinda gotta find them first

[lost vault]

why not right

[heavy heron]

but to say purples are a substitute for vagabond is

[lost vault]

the more the merrier

[heavy heron]

pretty crazy

[brave goblet]

the merrier andy?

[lost vault]

i did not say that

[versed sable]

purples and vagabond do the same thing in theory it's just that

[lost vault]

wow the tarot generators both generate tarots

[versed sable]

vagabond makes you poor in order to get value from it, and it works off of playing hands
purples don't make you poor, and work off discards, BUT they require you to have a lot of them whereas vagabond just works

arguably not comparable

because you're barely getting purples early game, and you're probably not gonna have <= $4 in late game

[lost vault]

its also not really a valid argument to say "joker is bad just get this!"

like uhh sock and buskin bad just get red seals

business card bad just get gold seals

[ancient gyro]

what is today's chat malfunction topic of the day

[lost vault]

also vagabond doesnt just make your money vanis

h

you spend it on stuff

you still get value from the money

[heavy heron]

look all i’ll say is every time i’ve picked up a vagabond ante 1-4 i have won that run

100% success rate

every time

LOOLLL

[lost vault]

the main downside to vagabond is the interest, not the money itself

[wraith slate]

most useful overstock plus ever

[lost vault]

and id rather have 4 tarots per round than 5 dollard

[heavy heron]

like i had so much money that run anyway

because

lucky cards

and temperances

[lost vault]

devils

hermits

[heavy heron]

so vagabond doesn’t even kill your money anyway

[heavy heron]

right like

[lost vault]

death and hanged man

emperor

i mean selling tarots gives you money too technically

[heavy heron]

this is after i broke all my glass

but

that gold seal 7

and all the glass before it (i had 13ish lucky 7s that i turned into glass)

were originally lucky cards

that’s how i got all my money

i just transitioned all the lucky cards to glass as i reached ante 8 bc i didn’t need the money anymore

[ancient gyro]

well to anybody that needs to see something

[sacred pike]

Just got Gold Stake Vagabond x2 with 3 perishable fortune tellers during the run 😂

[heavy heron]

oh that reminds me

i found a soul card for my vagabond run and skipped it

didn’t need it

vagabond was all i needed

death was more important in that pack

[ancient gyro]

i went sticker hunting

[heavy heron]

i’m 99% certain i win without any jokers here

[ancient gyro]

4 legendaries in 6 runs

[heavy heron]

no chad

no mime

i still win because

vagabond is just that good

[heavy heron]

that’s crazy

wtf

LOOLLL

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[heavy heron]

what are the odds of that

i actually don’t even know the odds of getting 1 soul card

[wraith slate]

rerolling down into the serpent is too funny, also very useful investment tag I got there

[heavy heron]

wow ante 39

and 5 whole dollars to your name

[lost vault]

you wouldve scored 8166987

[heavy heron]

is that correct

did you calculate steel

and holographic

[lost vault]

yes

cluh

im not stupid

i even counted the lucky card proc

[heavy heron]

oh wait

that’s 8 million

i can’t read

I THOUGJT YOU WERE SAYING IT WASNT ENOUGH

IM LIKE

[lost vault]

none of your cards are holographic btw

[heavy heron]

they are

first one

why do you think i put it first

[lost vault]

it sure isnt

[heavy heron]

bro

[lost vault]

its a glass card thats why

[heavy heron]

you’re right

glass gives +10 mult

i forgot

[lost vault]

oh

i didnt see that

[ancient gyro]

🥀

[lost vault]

well anyway it doesnt matter so like why are you arguing

[heavy heron]

i’m not arguing

[lost vault]

sigh

[heavy heron]

you said it wasn’t holo and i’m correcting you

that’s all

LOOLL

[worthy tinsel]

eh
I have seen worse

[ancient gyro]

i could ping amphy again

[lost vault]

but surely you put it first because chad would retrigger the glass

[ancient gyro]

we'll see a real argument

[lost vault]

good for you??

[heavy heron]

well they’re all glass right

[ancient gyro]

and I'll leave which is funny

[lost vault]

no argument with amphy is a real argument its just a brick wall saying erm joker lie to me

[heavy heron]

i just put that one because the 10 mult is pretty important

[lost vault]

no

[nocturne frost]

Hey guys, is it possible that...
"Hello community, you've all been waiting for the Balatro update, but I've had so much fun with it that it's gonna be a new game in 10 years"

[lost vault]

theres a lucky

no

[heavy heron]

i just did the math it’s 24 mil btw without jokers

[lost vault]

if you play a glass instead of a lucky probably

and consider the holographic

[heavy heron]

wellll i didn’t wanna do 5oak

so i did the

[lost vault]

but otherwise my math was on

[heavy heron]

lucky instead

[nocturne frost]

Not really complaining, it's just funny how we've been talking the update as it was going to be pretty soon, for like 9 or so months now

[lost vault]

right

[heavy heron]

my 5oak was level 1, i did flush five because higher level

[lost vault]

so the lucky is better

[median grove]

why do people say flush builds are bad when aj is the best card in the game

[lost vault]

because one joker doesnt make a bad hand good in general

[nocturne frost]

Ancient Joker is also not a flush joker

[lost vault]

it sure is

[nocturne frost]

It's actually just a photograph

[lost vault]

it sure isnt

[nocturne frost]

But for a random suit each round and just 1.5

[lost vault]

photo and ancient are coompletely different

[untold umbra]

Not sure how to continue brain is shortciructing

[nocturne frost]

They are, but for the metaf pairs, they are the same

[lost vault]

it also affects more than one card and isnt restricted to face cards

[lost vault]

you dont run pairs if you have ancient joker

okay well maybe you do but a good player doesnt

[nocturne frost]

You run pairs regardless

[lost vault]

also false

pairs are dominant but they arent the be all end all

[ancient gyro]

i remember being forced a straight run once with aj

[lost vault]

if i get shortcut i'm running straights

not pairs

[ancient gyro]

but yeah it's primarily flushes with aj as a standalone

[nocturne frost]

Pair is always the fall back

[ancient gyro]

u can do straights with ballot aj if you're creative

[lost vault]

"always" is a word that never should be used in the context of balatro

[nocturne frost]

It's bad at being a flush joker because you can't do suit changers

[lost vault]

nothing is "always" god

good

or always bad

[lost vault]

you dont need to

[worthy tinsel]

bc AJ is the only thing that carries flushes
Without it flush are pretty eh tbh

[ancient gyro]

that's incorrect

[lost vault]

ancient makes up for flush's terrible scoring enough that you only need to play one

[worthy tinsel]

lol
lmao even

[lost vault]

or two if youre really struggling

[ancient gyro]

you can keep suit changers upstairs against card draw hindering bosses for aj

[lost vault]

guys any xmult is just photograph

!!

[noble shuttle]

I think painted might be the deck I use for C++

[worthy tinsel]

Ye
Damn neptunes only showing oncelestial packs

[versed sable]

it's bad at "i'm gonna make a flush every hand with 40 heart cards!!"
it's good at "i'm gonna make one flush every round that i'll have to dig more for, but it'll score a ton more"

[ancient gyro]

one of the more annoying options

[nocturne frost]

The one with less joker slots? For the challenge?

[ancient gyro]

exhibit a

[worthy tinsel]

I recommend ghost for the ectos tbh

[ancient gyro]

a couple ppl are doing painted++ rn for that challenge

[lost vault]

actually, if youve played painted deck you'll notice that is gives you +2 handsixe

[heavy heron]

you don’t need suit changers for AJ; in fact, a completely unfixed deck still renders AJ entirely usable

[lost vault]

this is what we call an upside

[ancient gyro]

after I finished black++

lol

[heavy heron]

the most you can do is kill 1 or 2 cards of each suit

and like… throw some luckies in there

maybe some steel and glass if you feel spicy

[worthy tinsel]

Kill 4 of each

[ancient gyro]

it'll take more wins on average

[foggy sun]

what an interesting shop we have here

[worthy tinsel]

Yeah pick the lusty and bloodstone

[foggy sun]

Yes, exactly

why do boring baron when I can do crazy bloodstone

plus I already have retriggers for that

[heavy heron]

see if you look in the corner i skipped a number of times

[foggy sun]

and ive been building hearts

[heavy heron]

AJ is just..

yea..

[nocturne frost]

Like, if you get ancient Joker early in a run, maybe you could theoretically go for flushes, but in an already pair run, possibly a yet another photochad forced run, an Ancient Joker is in fact a very good photograph alternative, and that case comes up much more often for me

[heavy heron]

oh well yeah

if you’re already going pairs and leveled pairs

don’t take an ante 5 AJ and go flushes

that goes w a number of things

[nocturne frost]

No no, that's what I'm saying, do take it as a photochad alternative, it's so good

Oh okay you edited

[heavy heron]

i.. see

[ancient gyro]

well for one aj appearing more often than photo is statically incorrect for joker rarity probability

[heavy heron]

i’m ngl i don’t even have any experience going pairs photochad

[nocturne frost]

No I mean happens more often than a run that could still be a flush run and I find Ancient before I suit change a lot

[heavy heron]

i’ve never done that in my life

[ancient gyro]

it's basically just planet scaling turned to +8 mult per planet

[heavy heron]

so it’s your flat mult

ironically

[ancient gyro]

base mult that isn't joker mult

[nocturne frost]

All xmult is calculable to be +mult

And vice versa

[ancient gyro]

if you're just chalking up to just photograph utility and no other joker influence

[heavy heron]

im saying photochad pairs is a a substitute for needing flat mult, is what im hearing

like you’ll prob still need a hologram