🕹・game-discussion

[median grove]

how was i suppsed to beat this boss?

dang

[versed sable]

more hearts less wilds

unfortunately

[fiery nymph]

what was aj on

[median grove]

i thought wilds were good with too ajs

rip

[versed sable]

wait

[median grove]

hearts

[versed sable]

don't you have 5 hearts

??

[fiery nymph]

usually if it lands on the suit i skip the round before it

[ancient gyro]

glass isn't leftmost and sock isnt rightmost

[median grove]

ohhh

wait i do! lol

maybe i can still win

[fiery nymph]

💔

[ancient gyro]

uhm

[worthy tinsel]

What was ancient joker at?

[lyric basalt]

first time getting one of those

[lyric wave]

first straight flush?

[median grove]

hearts

i died

[lyric wave]

rip

[worthy tinsel]

Yes and no
Wilds die hard af against debuff suit bosses

[median grove]

only 200,000,000

[indigo mesa]

i have so few cards in my deck are we deaduzz

[indigo mesa]

early ahh serpent

[median grove]

yeah what should i have done instead?

[worthy tinsel]

That's why I almost never use them

[lyric wave]

you gotta get a dna in here for the handsize

[fiery nymph]

just trim ur deck but keep all the suits equa

[worthy tinsel]

Just thin the deck tbh

[indigo mesa]

i dont have room 😭

i need antimatter or ecto asap

[fiery nymph]

thats exactly why people use bloodstone because its way easier to fix

aj is more of an ante 8 thing to me

[lyric wave]

yeah landing an ecto would be huge

[woven spire]

?????

[median grove]

my deck was pretty thin, only 30 cards

[lyric wave]

you probably have room for second ecto potentially

[median grove]

but like 15 king clubs

[woven spire]

WHO is people

[lyric wave]

I am people

[median grove]

should i try green difficulty?

or is it much harder than red

[lyric wave]

yeah go for green stake

[woven spire]

name checks out

[median grove]

okey

[fiery nymph]

dice lovers

or gamba lovers

[worthy tinsel]

I see 40
How many wilds did you have?

[lyric wave]

green stake is def harder than red, but it's not impossible compared to red

[woven spire]

dice is my fav joker

[median grove]

like 16

[woven spire]

i dont use bloodstone

[median grove]

and most of them were clubs

[fiery nymph]

i like dice too i use lucky cards

[worthy tinsel]

Yeah no thats bad

[median grove]

which screwed me

[fiery nymph]

because lucky cards are like the best cards

🔥

[versed sable]

i like dice because of Parking

[worthy tinsel]

At moat I get like 4 with AJ

[median grove]

but someone said wild cards are better than glass cards for 2 ajs

[woven spire]

true…

[median grove]

because you can always use them

[rancid gull]

Reserved parking pisses me off

[fiery nymph]

it has so many uses its so nice to have

[median grove]

but i guess i should have just had more lucky cards, and an even spread of suits

right?

[frank grove]

Yeah

[indigo mesa]

a BIT too early DNA 🥀

[lyric wave]

I summoned it

[indigo mesa]

i will need this luchador to pass the serpent tho for sure

[lyric wave]

also luchador

yea lol

[versed sable]

could take it anyway, perhaps

[woven spire]

it’ll come back around

[lyric wave]

aren't you running a baron build

[rancid gull]

You jinxed it

You will only find campfire

[indigo mesa]

i could sell holographic blueprint and try to find a normal blueprint

[rancid gull]

Obelisk

[indigo mesa]

actually im considering that

[rancid gull]

And maybe flower pot

[indigo mesa]

yes im kidding 😭

[fiery nymph]

you honestly dont even need to fix for aj honestly, i just keep the deck normal

[woven spire]

don’t need to

[fiery nymph]

and get retriggers and discards

[worthy tinsel]

For wilds I do 10 normal cards of each suit, then an extra wild for each suit
So 11 cards for suit, but one of them are wilds

[lyric wave]

okay we're in #🕹・game-discussion I had to make sure lmao

[worthy tinsel]

Yeah like 4 not 16 lol

[median grove]

for two ajs? or one aj? or doesnt matter

thats very exact

[median grove]

dang!@

[indigo mesa]

i do need cards but its only one extra handsize ill keep the holographic

[versed sable]

it's not a terrible idea >w>
you have so few cards
but idk

[slow iris]

rental gaming

[fiery nymph]

wild cards arent good enough yet

[worthy tinsel]

It doesnt matter yes

[fiery nymph]

bring a retrigger jimbo

[woven spire]

if you are going to sell a copy, sell bs

[indigo mesa]

???? no im OBVIOUSLY not doing that what 😭

[woven spire]

rtb giving emotional support

[lyric wave]

the invisible four fingers goes hard

[worthy tinsel]

Tbh I would rathe glass/steel/lucky than wild for AJ
But if arcana packs only give you lovers then sure a few are nice

[woven spire]

You just said you were selling bp i don’t even know why, i’m just saying

[fiery nymph]

the screenshot was like the frame the cards started getting put down

it looks wack

[indigo mesa]

if i sell blueprint i wont naturally be able to find another one in the shop, unlike blueprint where it can come back around chs i only have one. also, blueprint is holographic, which sucks and a normal one would be much better. WHY would i sell a brainstorm here 😭

[median grove]

okay thansk

[fiery nymph]

😭

[lyric wave]

lmao

[slender mauve]

green for smiley, right? (blue stake)

[median grove]

should i buy an early overstock voucher on green difficulty? or is that a bad idea

because then id only have $

6

[lyric wave]

save your money until right before the boss blind

[median grove]

okey

[woven spire]

You right, honestly didn’t think abt that

I’m eepy

[fiery nymph]

lucky car might just be my fav xmult

[indigo mesa]

loll ur good

[median grove]

should i skip for a free spectral pack :0

[lyric wave]

no

[median grove]

what!

no way man

spectral is good

[lyric wave]

a spectral pack will not give you more value than playing the round

spectrals are good! but unless you land exactly immolate, it won't be worth it

[fiery nymph]

no

honestly no need to skip at all mid run

[worthy tinsel]

dw, spreading how to AJ is my duty

[fiery nymph]

for a normal run

[lyric wave]

playing rounds actually gives a lot of value even if you're doing nothing in the shop because it gives lots of money mid-round

[median grove]

thats true

i skipped to double my money tho

[worthy tinsel]

If you dont go broke after yeah sure

[median grove]

i feel like a skip for $25 is always worth tho

[median needle]

I am going to ban you creamy meme

[median grove]

after beating boss blind

[median grove]

whatd ido

[lyric wave]

maybe just in ante 1

[fiery nymph]

could be a loss of money

[lyric wave]

in ante 1 though it's almost always worth

[median needle]

You hacked Balatro

[indigo mesa]

he came too early 🥀

[fervent pebble]

is it flush 5 or something

[median grove]

how?? there is no way i could get more than $25 from one big blind in ante 2

[median grove]

thanks

[lyric wave]

yes

[fervent pebble]

ok ty

[fiery nymph]

oh ante 2

nvm

[median grove]

im skippin'

[worthy tinsel]

Flush five AKA Eris yes

[median grove]

is planet merchant a waste of space

[versed sable]

Often you'd rather see another shop to look for scoring, or scale up your existing joker(s), so playing is still worth

[errant bolt]

It's decent if you have constellation

[versed sable]

Basically always, yeahh
i don't see when you'd ever want it except constellation (and even then idk..)

[errant bolt]

or campfire ig

[fiery nymph]

okay baron brainstorm ante 3 white stake

are we bringing ts to the big leagues?

[versed sable]

True ig

[versed sable]

depends on what you mean by big leagues

[fiery nymph]

endless

[lyric wave]

planet merchant is okay if you have constellation. you never want planet tycoon unless you're unlocking it for the first time to get C though

[glossy mortar]

I need to be honest. Rough gem should be either buffed or moved to common. It’s genuinely one of the weaker of the money generators. Yet mail in rebate which is common, even without me even trying for it, generates me more income. I’de say rough gem should give $2 per trigger. Then it would feel like an uncommon joker as it would mean at best early game you’re getting $10 value from it which is still worse than mail in rebate, but at least closer to it.

[versed sable]

Having it be +$2 per diamond without actually being retriggerable would be interesting imo

[lyric wave]

it can't be moved to common

not unless the other gemstones are moved as well, which isn't really an option

[fiery nymph]

that evens it out with things like business card imo

i like that

[shell dagger]

also rebate is broken so probably shouldn’t be the baseline

[frank grove]

yeah

[lyric wave]

faceless should be the baseline imo

[frank grove]

yeah

[shell dagger]

golden joker

[versed sable]

I'm just basing this off of business card mostly

[glossy mortar]

No keep it being retriggerable. That’s what makes it unique as it’s just a better business card. However making it give $2 rather than 1 would make it closer to the power of mail in rebate.

[vernal breach]

Can someone explain to me why EVERY SINGLE TIME

Idol CHOOOOOSES the ON3 CARD i didnt change

1 in 23 chance BTW

[frank grove]

i would just nerf rebate instead of buffing everything else

[lyric wave]

because you risked it enough times

it's guaranteed eventually

[shell dagger]

all other gemstone jokers benefit from retriggers

[versed sable]

outright better business card would be bad design imo

[versed sable]

true
good point

[glossy mortar]

Yeah exactly. We already have enough of those kinds of jokers.

[shell dagger]

imo rough gem is fine as is

[frank grove]

i agree

i just think rebate is so insane compared to every other econ generator

[ancient gyro]

top 4 amphy comment

[frank grove]

like the others require so much more setup than rebate does

[lyric wave]

rough gem is pretty bad, but idk how you'd buff it

[versed sable]

at least until you go late endless and start using burglar, yeah

[lyric wave]

not every endless run goes burglar

not even all baron runs go burglar

[serene forge]

burger is only used for the final round of a naneinf run

you don't touch burger in endless otherwise

[shell dagger]

endless isn’t just naneinf

you do

[versed sable]

yeah true, i'm basing it off of my own experience which is
not the usual

[shell dagger]

burglar + ticket or parking is insane money

[glossy mortar]

Ehhhhh… i wouldn’t say it’s insane. It’s very good, but really benefits from deck fixing. It’s definitely the best econ in the game, but it’s not op by any means. If anything all the other econs are wayyyy under powered. Econ in this game is the second most common thing that kills runs.

[median grove]

what are the best scaling jokers for 3oak?

[shell dagger]

like 10x better than rebate

[versed sable]

yes :3

[serene forge]

I hate Business Card

[frank grove]

yeah but requires a lot more work than rebate does

[median grove]

or just the normal ones, red card, rtb, etc

[hidden lance]

thought it was a bad omen, turned out fine

[frank grove]

rebate just works well right away and then gets better as you deck fix

[median grove]

i guess sock is good

and photograph

[fiery nymph]

am i supposed to make gold kings first

[shell dagger]

for what

[lyric wave]

econ jokers are good enough to where even the second worst econ joker is like high B-tier, and rebate is the best econ joker

[fiery nymph]

baron

yeah right

[shell dagger]

yes

[versed sable]

if you have baron yup

[fiery nymph]

😭

whoops!

[serene forge]

dont make steels until you need them

[vernal breach]

Well at least I got the cat fat

[fiery nymph]

i just found a nice gold seal steel card so ive been copying that

ill change to gold once i find the devil

or a good standard

[serene forge]

did you find any red seals

[fiery nymph]

not yet looking

[glossy mortar]

I mean. Yes that is true I agree 100% but that dosen’t take away from the fact that most econ sucks. The only reason they are so high is because they are required. Which they should be, but they should be better for being so needed.

[worthy tinsel]

kimda agree, it would be nice if it had a small buff
Like 1/2 chance to give $2 or $3 per diamond

[viral raft]

hardest Fragile challenge:

[fiery nymph]

found red seal!

[versed sable]

Me when i add a new joker that's a 1/2 to give $2 when triggered, but only on certain cards

[worthy tinsel]

Photo is ok
Sock depends on builds and

[viral raft]

👀 👀 👀

[worthy tinsel]

👁️

[lyric wave]

what if instead of proc'ing on diamonds, it did that for face cards

am I onto something chat

[worthy tinsel]

Indeed you are

[lyric wave]

[shell dagger]

most econ cards do not suck…

[median grove]

cryptid, trance, or aura?

[lyric wave]

trance

[median grove]

what is the best?

[lyric wave]

blue seals are INSANELY good

[fiery nymph]

doc says they need nerfed

idk how they would do that

[lyric wave]

maybe make em only accessible in spectral packs, and not standards?

[lyric wave]

doc's 100% right btw they're overpowered as hell

[fiery nymph]

yeah ik

just how

do you nerf it

[worthy tinsel]

Blue seals
Unless you have a good card to copy like a steel/gold card with a blue/red seal

[lyric wave]

I can only see a nerf going via making them rarer

[vernal breach]

Maybe make them proc 1 in 2? Seems too harsh tho

[glossy mortar]

Delayed Grat… Credit Card… Matador… uhhhh? Are you sure about that?

[versed sable]

½

[red briar]

delgrat...

[worthy tinsel]

Maybe instead of last hand played is the first
Or just go 1/2 chance idk

[glossy mortar]

Heck I’de argue that Matador is the single worst card in the game.

[lyric wave]

credit card is good

[red briar]

matador is good depending on your boss blind

[lyric wave]

satellite though

[vernal breach]

Tru

[fiery nymph]

hi jugger

[red briar]

hi

<3

[glossy mortar]

Credit card is good with vagabond which is a strat I’ve pulled off twice. However I’ve never found it useful beyond that.

[glossy mortar]

I’m not gonna have that argument again… it literally dosen’t do what it’s description says.

[frank grove]

What

[red briar]

i mean it does on certain bosses where it's applicable

like suit debuffs etc

[frank grove]

Once you know which bosses matador works on matador is fine, its description is a bit annoying

[vernal breach]

The fact matador doesnt work for the hook pisses me off

[red briar]

matador would be fixed if it updated the description

[glossy mortar]

While there are definitely other jokers that lie to you about what they do, (cough ancient cough,) none lie as badly as matador.

[frank grove]

What do you mean ancient lies to you?

[red briar]

i second this

the first time i got ancient joker it was pretty clear what it does

1.5x mult on every card scored with a certain kind of suit

[median grove]

is hack good with 3oak / pair build?

or two pair?

[worthy tinsel]

I dont see how it lies (ancient)

[indigo mesa]

oh my GOD bro the ecto and antimatter are taking their time

[median grove]

or only flushes

like is hack + half joker good

[lyric wave]

maybe ecto is in the standard pack

[indigo mesa]

credit card in the celestial pack in the new game 🥀

[worthy tinsel]

Hack is good if you have jokers or card mosifiers to trigger with it

[fringe nebula]

I'm sorry, another amphymalding happened

[frank grove]

😭

[red briar]

they should make a challenge for that

or a deck

any kind of card can appear in any slot

im pretty sure cryptid has that no

[indigo mesa]

yea

[glossy mortar]

I’m gonna make a list of every joker that lies to you in it’s description.

[frank grove]

Im confused on what you mean ancient lies to you

[terse dock]

Probably means that it cant roll the same suit twice in a row

[red briar]

i feel like this is pretty self explanatory

[indigo mesa]

uhmm

[red briar]

"suit changes at the end of round"

[indigo mesa]

if its perkeo istfg 😭

yorick im good

[red briar]

yorick...

[terse dock]

It used to not

[red briar]

grr

[worthy tinsel]

It was a good buff

I still have ptsd from AJ not changing from hearts against the head

🥀

[fringe nebula]

skip method

🗣️

[indigo mesa]

this fucking boss blind

[fiery nymph]

okay im hitting e3

30

[worthy tinsel]

The best thing that happened to ancient 🙏

[indigo mesa]

finally dude. only voucher i really need rn besides antimatter (WHERE IS IT)

[median grove]

is runner good with smiley? or no relation

[indigo mesa]

do i have to take this (selling blueprint ofc)

[indigo mesa]

no relation

[fringe nebula]

no relation

[indigo mesa]

i can probably discard all the hearts right?

[median grove]

is vagabond hard to play in green difficulty?

because money is very tight

or still good

[indigo mesa]

still very good

[haughty cairn]

Vagabond is always good

[median grove]

okey

[serene forge]

vagabond is an econ joker

[urban sun]

bru

[indigo mesa]

I JUST GOT DIRECTORS CUT WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT 😭

[haughty cairn]

Yeah it does that for me

[urban sun]

why though

[daring gazelle]

Y’all ever get that feeling whenever you have a great build, but you completely screw up?

[haughty cairn]

I don’t know

[daring gazelle]

Now it’s just gone. Wasted.

[fringe nebula]

yep

it was when i was doing exact 12500000 score

[indigo mesa]

guys whats the ante 19 scoring requirement because if i dont find antimatter or ecto im just cooked rn

[heady narwhal]

idk for me it's either i win ante 8 or i don't

[haughty cairn]

I don’t remember exactly but maybe e44?

[serene forge]

more than 400 thousand

[daring gazelle]

Like I literally got a Chicot on ante 2 and I just completely screwed up lol

[indigo mesa]

FUCK 🥀

[fiery nymph]

e52

[heady narwhal]

maybe i'm a little bit embarrassed if i throw a run with like. red card + runner + campfire

[fiery nymph]

where is naninf

[fringe nebula]

no wonder why you're a.......... supersillygoober 🥁

[fiery nymph]

🥹

[daring gazelle]

lol

[haughty cairn]

Once I got a double perkeo run and died in ante 2 because I had no scoring jokers

[indigo mesa]

omg dude scary

[terse vale]

sometimes

[indigo mesa]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. GOODBYE WORLD??

[indigo mesa]

ok its e37, thats fine i can just make steel

[fiery nymph]

i love the serpent

[stoic isle]

goodbye to a world reference

[fiery nymph]

hieroglyph

yippers

[median grove]

is square joker good for two pair and pair? or only two pair

[stoic isle]

square joker is good for a lot of things

[haughty cairn]

Both

[indigo mesa]

ok good to know my limit

[stoic isle]

w negative bus

[indigo mesa]

fr its hard carrying these antes

[stoic isle]

temperance value ❤️‍🩹

[indigo mesa]

showman youre TROLLING

[indigo mesa]

surely arcana has an ecto

im gonna cry

[fringe nebula]

even for high card squoker is good

[indigo mesa]

oh my god im gonna cry even more

[median grove]

is there any good interaction with hanging chad? or nah

[fringe nebula]

nah

[median grove]

damn

[fringe nebula]

hanging chad is hanging chad

[lapis blade]

hay

[median grove]

i thought hanging chad was always good

[indigo mesa]

photograph…

[fiery nymph]

i found dna lets go

no mime yet

[median grove]

but also i have a negative hanging chad, so maybe ill pivot

[median grove]

photograph and hanging chad and sock right?

[indigo mesa]

it pretty much is. and if you can find photograph with hanging chad, you basically just win

[indigo mesa]

sock is not necessary but yes

[worthy tinsel]

Glass

Or photo

[tropic pasture]

Negative Drunkard is the best common
Change my mind

[harsh relic]

Gold seals gold ticket

[void topaz]

red deck enjoyer

[harsh relic]

chad is amazing overall

[void topaz]

aint that just the discard voucher

[tropic pasture]

It contributes to Temperance

[void topaz]

ok so

your saying thats better than negative golden ticket

[tropic pasture]

oh
i stand corrected

[void topaz]

negative mail in rebate

[minor portal]

rental crafty joker clears allat

[indigo mesa]

STOP IT 🥀

[harsh relic]

truth nuke

[void topaz]

just thought of cavendish

[indigo mesa]

surely spectral has an ecto…

yep im cooked goodbye world

[haughty cairn]

Ecto in the standard pack

[fiery nymph]

e50 is where baron left me

:(

highscore though

so yippeee

[median grove]

is even steven good for two pair / pair builds?

[indigo mesa]

best negative in the game

[median grove]

or better to save money and scale red card

[fringe nebula]

falls off lategame

[ancient gyro]

he's fine

[fringe nebula]

but usable

[median grove]

im trying to win green difficulty tho

[serene forge]

square joker is a pair joker

[fringe nebula]

+60 chips for pair, +120 two pair is decent i guess

[fiery nymph]

me too

[serene forge]

not a two pair joker

[void topaz]

guys lets be serious its a +8 mult for pairs

[serene forge]

take magic trick

[median grove]

but you have to play two pairs to grow it...

[ancient gyro]

on black deck it can be either

[serene forge]

no you do not

read the card again

[fiery nymph]

🥀

[ancient gyro]

you have to play 4 cards, not score 4 cards

[fiery nymph]

balatro player tries to read challenge

[haughty cairn]

You can play any 4 cards, doesn’t have to be a four card hand

[serene forge]

square would be so bad if you could only scale with 2 pair or 4oak

[glossy mortar]

Okay long post incoming.

[hollow hinge]

Does anyone know if it's possible to use debug on mobile?

[glossy mortar]

Jokers that are Liars

Sixth Sense

• Claims that creates a spectral if the first card PLAYED is a “single 6” however this isn’t the case as when playing a debuffed 6 it dosen’t count. It should say “Creates a single spectral card if the first hand of the round has a single scored 6”.
  Green Joker
• Its description implies that it’s the players act of using a hand or discard that triggers it however it’s proven with the hook, this isn’t the case. The description should say, “-1 mult WHENEVER cards are discarded”.
  Baron & Shoot the Moon & Reserved Parking
• The description implies it cares about the card being in your hand which is false, it cares about the card being in your hand AND being active. It should include a qualifier adding “non-debuffed”.
  Midas Mask
• Similar but less complex issue as Sixth Sense. It needs a qualifier that states it only converts SCORED cards as it’s current description implies all played which is false.
  Mail-In Rebate & Hit the Road
• Same issue as the Baron, make it have the qualifier “non-debuffed”.
  Ancient Joker
• Unlike all the other random cards in the game, this one isn’t selective random, meaning it dosen’t care about how you fix your deck. It’s the only random card that does this in the game and its description should state that.
  Matador
• It just dosen’t do anything of what it says.

[ancient gyro]

rule 10 6

[indigo mesa]

OH MY GOD IM ALIVE

[fringe nebula]

playing a debuffed 6 does count tho?

[glossy mortar]

There’s only 11 liars in the game. Most of which would be fixed easily with one or two words added to it’s description.

[haughty cairn]

Obviously if a card if debuffed it won’t work

[frank grove]

Yeah i think "debuffed" makes sense

its wordy to say "NON DEBUFFED" on every joker that uses card scoring of some kind

[glossy mortar]

Yes the card wont work, however the jokers aren’t the ones debuffed. It’s the card, their description dosen’t care about about that. Many jokers do have that qualifier, so it makes no sense why some don’t.

[fiery nymph]

they should remove all joker descriptions and force the player to memorize them and find them out one by one

[lost vault]

selling multiple luchadors on the same boss blind does nothing

[fringe nebula]

@rancid gull dude look at this masterpiece

[lost vault]

a debuffed card doesnt count as anything (with some exceptions)

[indigo mesa]

whoops.

[indigo mesa]

goodbye!

[slow iris]

scary

[glossy mortar]

Oh is that not a thing? I swear I saw some bugged thing with that once when playing.

[lost vault]

no,

[indigo mesa]

thats chicot bug

[mortal nimbus]

Missing the information regarding Flower Pot here as well

[fringe nebula]

i'm 200% sure sixth sense still give a spectral card when you play debuffed 6

[glossy mortar]

This is false. Many jokers are written as such to include debuffed cards. It’s only those few that are missing it when they do care about it.

I’ll edit the list though.

[serene forge]

3/18/26 balatrodle in 3

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 3

[lost vault]

you were right about chicot though, having multiple does do something
imo though, the way its currently worded is more intuitive, as you rarely have multiple chicots

[serene forge]

rule 10

[glossy mortar]

Okay i fixed it.

[indigo mesa]

that sucked. ectoplasm and antimatter just never fucking come

[lost vault]

no jokers actually specifically mention debuffed cards

[serene forge]

also you cannot use multiple luchadors

because yknow

using the first one disables the boss

right

[lost vault]

also in ancient joker's defense

[fringe nebula]

i mean, chicot simply add -1 to "boss ability = 1"

[lost vault]

it does say "suit changes EVERY round"

so

[glossy mortar]

They don’t mention it because their wording is inclusive to it, the jokers I mentioned above imply they are inclusive but when played are not.

[lost vault]

-# iirv

iirc

[serene forge]

the other similar jokers say the same thing though

so it is an inconsistency

even if it's for the better

[haughty cairn]

No joker that triggers via playing/discarding/holding a card in hand works with debuffed cards

[serene forge]

idol says card changes every round

but of course it'll pick the same card if you only have one

[glossy mortar]

Yes however Idol says the same thing and it isn’t restrictive. Ancient is the only random joker that acts the way it does and it makes no sense.

[fringe nebula]

also, can someone confirms this? because I'm 300% sure about it

[mortal nimbus]

yes, it does

[fringe nebula]

ok good

[compact gazelle]

most of these are just like
did you know that debuffed cards say “all abilities disabled”

[lost vault]

idol does technically select a different card every round, cards can just be identical to each other

castle is the outlier tmk

[mortal nimbus]

one of the jokers that doesn't really need that (working with debuffed cards) to work

[median grove]

is an ante 4 runner too late?

if im going two pair

[fringe nebula]

funny how amphy didn't mention debuffed queens and debuffed kings for baron and stm

[daring gazelle]

Depends

[glossy mortar]

It says all CARD abilities. The above mentioned is JOKER abilities. Which are different.

[haughty cairn]

If you’re going two pair don’t take a joker that requires you to play straights

[lost vault]

any time u ask for advice in a given run u gotta give context

[fiery nymph]

maybe e60 is a big number

[lost vault]

no joker is usable in every single context

[compact gazelle]

jokers
give abilities to cards
;-;

[tiny grove]

Hey everyone! I’m two jokers away to completing C++. One of them I currently have and the other is Flower Pot which just showed up for me. Can I afford dropping Supernova for it so I can try to complete both jokers on this same run?

[lost vault]

if im not mistake something like even steven says "played cards with rank give +4 mult when scored"

[daring gazelle]

Y’all what deck do I have to win on for ghost deck?

[glossy mortar]

No, cards trigger abilities for jokers. Cards don’t gain stats when a joker is held, the card is the card, the joker is the one with the ability. That is why things like Bluprint and Brainstorm work like they do.

[median grove]

should i buy runner with my two pair build?

[haughty cairn]

No

[median grove]

okey

[lost vault]

how does blueprint or brainstorm prove this at all

[median grove]

just keep scaling red card?

[waxen quartz]

you pretty much halve your score. is that enough?

[median grove]

and what are the best jokers for two pair?

[lost vault]

by copying the joker that gives ability to the card, blueprint gives more of the ability to the card

[glossy mortar]

Because they copy the ability of the joker, not the ability of the card.

[fiery nymph]

seance

[compact gazelle]

the numbers. yknow the numbers that say plus chips and plus mult and times mult
tell me. where do they show up when cards trigger “joker abilities”

[lost vault]

the ability of the joker is to give an ability to a card though

[median grove]

butthats for straight flushes...

[daring gazelle]

Anyone know what deck I need to win on for the ghost deck?

[fiery nymph]

yellow

[haughty cairn]

Yeah and spare trousers is good with two pairs

[daring gazelle]

Thank you!

[median grove]

i have spare trousers, any others to look out for?

[tiny grove]

See that’s what I don’t know, I’m terrible at math 😂

[glossy mortar]

No they don’t. When you pick up a joker it dosen’t suddenly give the ability to the card to do something, those cards always were the way they were. It’s the joker doing the work. Wether you have a joker in your hand or not.

[manic zealot]

used a luchador because fuck crimson fart

[haughty cairn]

Not really, just look for xmult jokers like always

[lost vault]

now you're just saying baseless shit

whats your source?

[daring gazelle]

Bad judgement card pull?

[compact gazelle]

so to answer my question
the numbers appear above the cards
because it’s the damn cards that are doing the things

[daring gazelle]

Fibonacci

[waxen quartz]

it's fine, easy win

[rancid gull]

Ahhhhh

The amphy event

[compact gazelle]

the actual liar you should have mentioned is baseball card which still procs on disabled uncommons

[lost vault]

i believe jokers guve abilities to card because the +mult/chips/xmult effects appear above the cards, as if they were enhanced, rather than above the joker

[compact gazelle]

👍

[median grove]

im so dumb!! i can play 5 cards with my two pair build

bruh

[median grove]

campfire?

[glossy mortar]

Like for example. Shoot the Moon. When you don’t have a shoot the moon, does that mean the queens can never do anything? No. Once you get shoot the moon it dosen’t change anything about queens. Nothing changes stat wise. The only thing that changes is the joker caring about that specific card and what it does to trigger it. The held queens are just queens. It’s the joker doing the action.

[lost vault]

the wording "played cards with rank give +4 mult when scored" implies that it is the card doing the action, not the joker

[daring gazelle]

Banana vs. Bean: who to pick?

[haughty cairn]

Yeah anything that gives xmult is good

[rancid gull]

Banana

[lost vault]

you are arguing against a point that nobody made

[median grove]

is campfire only good in the later antes though? i dont have any econ...

[fiery nymph]

hey i won with this card today

[rancid gull]

If it dies

[median grove]

im on ante 4

[fiery nymph]

flush five fib on aces ❤️‍🩹

[rancid gull]

You can find cavendish

[frank grove]

Oh i fucking love straight runs

[fiery nymph]

(it got sold)

[rancid gull]

Bean is not helpful at all here

[lost vault]

point me to the time someone said "cards dont do anything until you have jokers"

[glossy mortar]

Not only that but with most, (but not all) jokers you can even see when they cause a card to trigger as there is an animation for it.

[ebon condor]

it is implied that most things that trigger cards do not work when cards are debuffed

thats just how the game works

the sixth sense point i get

but not with stm / reserved

[haughty cairn]

Yeah campfire is good with good econ and even without it it’s still pretty good because in the earlier antes you don’t need to scale it that much

[median grove]

okay thanks

[glossy mortar]

In any case we are getting sidetracked. The issue at hand is the jokers that lie to you.

[frank notch]

????

[rancid gull]

????

Jokers that lie to you?

[compact gazelle]

1. the descriptions of the jokers generally say “x card does y when z” and from that it should be pretty obvious you need the card to be. like. working
   the argument you have for shoot the moon is no different than, say, onyx
2. the numbers appear above the cards. because. the cards are doing the things when they are activated.

[lost vault]

yes, the joker pulses a little. invisible joker pulses repeatedly when its effect is active, but that doesnt mean it is activating its effect constantly

[daring gazelle]

gets gros michel, extinct after 1st hand with it…

[rancid gull]

What joker lies to you

[compact gazelle]

yeah
because if the joker is debuffed
it also doesn’t work!

[frank grove]

they wrote a whole thing about it

[lost vault]

matador, mainly. and maybe castle

[rancid gull]

Where

[frank notch]

forward it

[frank grove]

this.

[fiery nymph]

that joker

[rancid gull]

Bro

Amphy was on some shit about matador the other day

We get it

[frank grove]

forgot you can do that now

[ebon condor]

honestly i think the framing is the issue

just say "jokers that could have more clear wording"

boom easy

[frank grove]

yeah which is a fairly good take

[compact gazelle]

amphy is perpetually on something

[fiery nymph]

honestly the only joker i didnt understand at first was supernova (i might be slow)

[compact gazelle]

didn’t even mention baseball who does actually lie

[daring gazelle]

Take ecto this early?

[frank grove]

also glass joker "lies" to you cause spectrals destroying glass doesnt increase the x mult

[lost vault]

also honestly, adding "non-debuffed" to all on-score jokers would be pointless and possibly confusing to newer players

[manic zealot]

no

[haughty cairn]

No you don’t have anything worth using it on

[compact gazelle]

isn’t that a bug

[fiery nymph]

you use immolate

[ebon condor]

why are you a likely spammer

[rancid gull]

Lololol

Their account is flagged

[ebon condor]

you are normal why is discord lying to me

[rancid gull]

They chill though

[manic zealot]

good question I am also confused

[haughty cairn]

I don’t know

[fiery nymph]

discord wants us scammed

[glossy mortar]

Alright it’s time to fact check this shii.

Lusty give +3 mult for any scored heart. Yet NOWHERE in the card description does it say that. You know where you can find that? In the joker. You know what happens when you PLAY a heart? The JOKER AND THE CARD shake. Not just the card, the joker too. It’s not the card doing anything. It’s the joker.

[compact gazelle]

probably the username

lot of numbers

[glossy mortar]

Anyone disagreeing at this point is getting blocked. Like this isn’t rocket science.

[frank notch]

it pisses me off because i HAVE to click show. theres no setting to turn this off

[frank grove]

maybe who knows, spectrals work with canio so its just a bit of weird behavior

[frank notch]

same thing with bunnet

[haughty cairn]

What are you even talking about anymore

[lost vault]

yes, it is both the joker and card doing something. hearts dont give mult on their own. i thought that was pretty easy to figure out

[ebon condor]

i dont think anyone is disagreeing here im not sure what point youre trying to make

[daring gazelle]

LETS GO

[ebon condor]

tbph

[daring gazelle]

This early YOO

[ebon condor]

yorick inc

[lost vault]

when a card is debuffed, it does not "score". in lusty's description, it says "scored hearts"

[rancid gull]

Do not say this to amphy

[frank notch]

it SAYS Played cards with Heart suit give +3 Mult when scored

[rancid gull]

They will immediately start saying that everyone is disagreeeing

[compact gazelle]

“scored.” you score the card and it gives the number because the joker makes it do that
wording issue maybe. joker lying to you, no
ex. shoot the moon? queens held in hand, because the queens have to trigger their held in hand state to activate stm which they don’t do when debuffed

[frank notch]

oh wait i misread

[frank grove]

what are you on about?

[fringe nebula]

someone please tell amphy to touch grass jesus fucking christ

[compact gazelle]

the card shakes because it’s triggering the +3

[frank grove]

it says all abilities are disabled on debuffed cards

[compact gazelle]

this isn’t that complicated

the card shakes, because the joker gives it the ability of plus three mult.

[fiery nymph]

this is just overthinking too much

[glossy mortar]

Finally someone listening. You are so close to getting it fully though. Just keep thinking.

[lost vault]

i think amphy is just salty from that one time sixth sense didnt give a spectral when they played a single six vs the psychic

[compact gazelle]

apparently amphy wants the joker to change the card description of every card it affects

[lost vault]

this person is arguing against you though

the same things i said

[glossy mortar]

Yes. But it’s not the cards with the abilities that are the issue. It’s the jokers.

[compact gazelle]

that person has no reading comprehension though

[frank notch]

say "holder joker" gives x when y card is scored. y card gives the effect because holder joker is in your slots. the cards do it but the joker makes the cards do it

[lost vault]

my mistake

[ancient gyro]

you guys are still talking to amphy 🥀

[fiery nymph]

so ur saying if i have a lusty joker, the lusty joker affect should be on the cards

[glossy mortar]

Okay let me try and dumb this down to a 3rd grade level.

[fiery nymph]

if they are in effect

[glossy mortar]

Give me a sec to find jokers that work for a brainless example.

[ancient gyro]

im good

[compact gazelle]

block me, buffoon
the only rocket science here is how you decide what you want words to mean before you read any of them

[frank grove]

You're so funny

[lost vault]

are you sure youre capable of that

[daring gazelle]

Got Yorick

[ebon condor]

what did i say

[compact gazelle]

you are so close to
wait never mind you’re quite far from getting it fully

:3

[lost vault]

true

[glossy mortar]

Okay here we go! I have a brainless example!

[compact gazelle]

you can do this we all believe in you

[fiery nymph]

we?

[lost vault]

all of your examples have been brainless so far

[fringe nebula]

I KNOW RIGHT

[frank notch]

wrong channel

[lost vault]

actually everything not just examples

[frank notch]

go to off topic

[fiery nymph]

this is on topic

[haughty cairn]

🤓

[compact gazelle]

shh they won’t know im lying if you don’t give it away

[frank notch]

thats a bunny and not related to balatro at all

[fiery nymph]

same first letter

[frank grove]

trueee

[ebon condor]

quit minimodding

[fiery nymph]

ur wrong!

[compact gazelle]

bunlatro

[lost vault]

the jokers dont "lie" to you. this is because they are inanimate cards in a computer screen, incapable of speech or intent. by nature, lying requires you to speak with the intent to decieve

[fiery nymph]

my bunprint and bunstorm

and my bunt joker

[ancient gyro]

finished a juicy el paso burrito meal and I still see the funny lad typing

[rancid gull]

yeah but thunk made the game

therefore

he's lying to you

therefore

[lost vault]

how dare he

[frank grove]

Yeah the jokers dont lie to you its thunk!!!

[compact gazelle]

so
cope seethe mald?
it should be pretty clear that “not allowed” means your hand doesn’t do what it normally does imo
this one is somehow entirely separate and just as bad if not worse

[lost vault]

yeaah

[compact gazelle]

i feel so betrayed!

[lost vault]

i remember a while back when amphy was like crashing out at sixth sense because of that even though nothing activates when a hand is "not allowed"

[ebon condor]

the jokers dont "lie" to you. this is because they are made up of various bytes inside your computer, projected to create the illusion of text. in reality they are a series of red, green, and blue lights lit up in a way that makes it appear as though the act of jokers lying is possible

[compact gazelle]

i think for you we would call that “accelerated learning”

[lost vault]

or maybe i have false memories

[compact gazelle]

👍

[fringe nebula]

let's be honest

most people here prefer to learn each joker that won't work because of card debuff on their own RATHER than having a wall of text being blown up on their face

[daring gazelle]

A Fibonacci’s dream flush…

[edgy stone]

The best runner I ever feed

[frank grove]

This is one of my gripes with a lot of mods they overexplain stuff a lot

[ebon condor]

ok but i think we can admit the ancient joker point is valid

[fiery nymph]

by this knowledge every hand scaler lies to you

💔

[glossy mortar]

So we have DNA. Here’s its description ripped right from the wiki. “If first hand of round has only 1 card, add a permanent copy to deck and draw it to hand”

So now we have Sixth Sense. “If first hand of round is a single 6, destroy it and create a Spectral card (Must have room)”

So both are first hand of round and when playing only one card. Okay perfect.

Both have an action that is taken if that above quality is met right? We agree on that?

Both of them DO NOT state when scored, implying it is an absolute for it to happen.

DNA does not care about the status of the card, it follows it’s description and clones the card regardless of it being active or not.

Sixth Sense DOES care about the status of the card and will NOT activate if the card is debuffed.

It’s a logical paradox for one to work and not the other, thusly the simplest answer is Sixth Sense is lying and should have the qualifier that it’s SCORED as the ability cares about it bring scored.

[ancient gyro]

pass

[compact gazelle]

the wall also
did not give you accurate information on which jokers “lie”

[ebon condor]

this is an entirely different point

[frank notch]

ALL ABILITIES ARE DISABLED??

[lost vault]

doesnt sixth sense activate when a card is debuffed though

[fringe nebula]

again, sixth sense still work even if you play a debuffed 6 😭

[ebon condor]

you have changed what you are arguing for

[fringe nebula]

oh god

[lost vault]

idk someone said that earlier

[frank grove]

Yeah dna doesnt have a condition

sixth sense does

[frank notch]

while sixth sense required a specific rank, dna does not and only copies the card. this is not an ability

[ancient gyro]

let it be known amphy had 4 wins total at one point a couple weeks ago or whatever

or was it 2

[fiery nymph]

more than me 😣

[glossy mortar]

Okay if we take your hypothesis as true that cards are the ones with the abilities not the jokers, then why does DNA work?

[lost vault]

this is equivalent to getting mad at even steven for not activating on a stone card even though hiker does

[ancient gyro]

when I first talked to them

[compact gazelle]

dna just wants one card
doesn’t matter what the card is, dna copies it
sixth sense cares what the card is and hence is affected by debuff

[frank grove]

cause dna doesnt need a specific rank or suit to trigger sixth sense does

[ebon condor]

anything but admitting you may not be good at the game ig

[compact gazelle]

dna doesn’t need the card to do anything because its trigger condition is “does first hand have one card”

[frank notch]

dna doesnt have a condition relying on the cards themselves

its just A card

[compact gazelle]

and the card being a card is not affected by debuff

dna works for the same reason debuffed cards can make pairs

[glossy mortar]

Okay so lets take this hypothesis as correct. So under this logic then it means all debuffed cards are nothing. They are basically stone cards. Since if a 6 isn’t a 6 when debuffed that means well… it’s not a 6. Okay so now we look at a wild card. When a wild card is debuffed it’s ABILITY is disabled, yet it still works for flushes or straights and the sort right? So that means that it DOES have a rank. It can’t have a rank and not have a rank at the same time.

[ancient gyro]

1 blocked message

[haughty cairn]

Copied from Balatro wiki: It activates after all scoring is completed and therefore still works if the 6 is debuffed, and does not get influenced by retriggers. It does not activate if the hand is not allowed under the current Boss Blind (e.g. The Psychic).

[compact gazelle]

oh my
dear god it’s even worse than i thought

[rancid gull]

but stone cards do something

[compact gazelle]

yeah never tried that but it makes sense for 6s to also work since
know
a six is a six is a six

[rancid gull]

debuffed cards aren't the same as a stone card

[lost vault]

okay but go test sixth sense with a debuffed six though

and yeah stone cards are vastly different

[ancient gyro]

theyre not gonna do that

[compact gazelle]

no, a cards rank and suit are not abilities
see above

[rancid gull]

Amphy will look you direct in your face and say you're wrong

[frank grove]

amphy why dont you just play the game?

[lost vault]

stone cards say "no rank or suit, always scors", debuffed cards say "does not score chips and all abilities disabled."

[glossy mortar]

I mean why would I? Sixth Sense kinda sucks. If I ever get the chance though I will try it, but I’ve tried it before and it never works. So unless there has been a game update in the last month or so I didn’t know about, it dosen’t work.

[fiery nymph]

actually guys amphy is right and everyone else is wrong hate to break it to you

[lost vault]

stone cards can be debuffed.

[rancid gull]

Sixth sense is not bad bro

[compact gazelle]

first they have to get a sixth sense and a six to play with it
you’re asking too much

[median grove]

whats a good level for my red card to be at

on ante 5?

[ancient gyro]

oh what I would do to bring brooke back in this chat

[lost vault]

well it would prove that youve been arguing against something that doesn teven happen

[median grove]

its + 21 right now

[frank grove]

Person who argues a point "i mean why would i test my point??"

[compact gazelle]

who’s that

[haughty cairn]

Sixth sense works with debuffed sixes because sixth sense activates after all scoring is completed

[rancid gull]

that's not bad

try to get it up a bit higher

are you opening every pack

[woeful cliff]

Is there anyway to transfer my save from Apple Arcade to steam?

[fringe nebula]

one of former active member in this server who has 7 gs winstreak on boack deck

[haughty cairn]

Unfortunately no

[lost vault]

foreal thats like saying "go look it up" and someone responding "why would i look it up"

[glossy mortar]

Bruh… it does happen. I’ve done it several times. It’s why I don’t use Sixth Sense anymore. DNA on the other hand always works. I’ve never had DNA fail.

[compact gazelle]

probably not without some chicanery that violates some TOS or another

[lost vault]

if it doesnt happen then prove it

go play the round and show me that sixth sense doesnt work on debuffed cards

[frank grove]

Imagine if you saved the seed so you could go back and test if it was a misplay or a joker issue

[fringe nebula]

we need a recording for that one fs

[woeful cliff]

So I’d have to restart entirely

[glossy mortar]

I mean there aint a creative mode, i can’t just pull a DNA out of my ass.

Actually wait…

Seeds

[ancient gyro]

some bitch

[glossy mortar]

Nvm

[compact gazelle]

they played the six with a two and a three after learning about hands as discards

[haughty cairn]

Could just cheat

[lost vault]

also, dna does not always work. for example, the psychic,,,,

[glossy mortar]

Give me a sec to find a seed with DNA then.

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[frank grove]

we all know dna works with debuffed

[lost vault]

also, i said sixth sense not dna

[ancient gyro]

she has a win streak of 7 on black deck

[frank grove]

your argument is that sixth sense doesnt

[ancient gyro]

which I'm tryna surpass

[rancid gull]

you are not getting a coherent response lol

you gotta stop trying

[woeful cliff]

That’s true

[lost vault]

i have too much faith

[compact gazelle]

gl
i believe in you
for whatever that’s worth :3

[lost vault]

1111111111

[ancient gyro]

not much :3

[glossy mortar]

Is there a site that lets you search if a seed has a specific joker in the first shop?

[keen sleet]

brainstorm mod rare tag

[ancient gyro]

she happens to be the first buddy I chatted with upon joining

[glossy mortar]

Mods are not sites…

[compact gazelle]

stranger on the internet believes that you can do it
can’t fail now

[ancient gyro]

a year ago

[frank notch]

amphy just get zokersmodmenu

[ancient gyro]

i haven't played a match in 2 weeks

im so washed 🥀

[frank grove]

thoughts??

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[rancid gull]

I love bloodstone

[keen sleet]

oh doing it on double or nothing is smart

[finite heron]

I disagree you like bloodstone

[compact gazelle]

amphy says that thing is saying “+15 chips”

[frank notch]

i have a neutral opinion on bloodstone

[lost vault]

oh my god dude you can literally just look it up

[median grove]

any tips to beat green stake?

[glossy mortar]

??? Wtf. Okay well maybe I’m wrong then??? Or the mobile version is different? Because I’ve tried to use 6th sense MANY times and it has never worked when debuffed.

[median grove]

for the first time

i keep losing

[lost vault]

the balatro wiki says sixth sense activates on debuffed cards

[glossy mortar]

I guess i maybe will give sixth sense another try then?

[compact gazelle]

anyways yeah isn’t it crazy how the sixth sense +spectral shows up under the joker
that’s because it’s the joker triggering an ability and not the card!
no way

[lost vault]

no the mobile version is not any fucking different from the console or pc versions

theyre the same game

[rancid gull]

idk why that's the one thing stopping you from using it

i guarantee your 6's aren't getting debuffed all the timeanyways

if it even did work like that

[compact gazelle]

admitting you’ve been incorrect is the first step towards improvement

[fringe nebula]

Dude!? Insane pull

[glossy mortar]

Ehhhh no. They are different. There are many exclusive bugs to mobile I’ve never seen anyone talk about on PC. There is also no mod support like there is on PC.

[serene forge]

no

[junior urchin]

WHAT IS THIS SEED BRO

[rancid gull]

Dude!? Insane pull

[lost vault]

okay, sixth sense activating on a debuffed card is not a bug

[haughty cairn]

No, they’re the same

[compact gazelle]

no it’s actually balatro java edition on steam and balatro bedrock edition on mobile and consoles

[fringe nebula]

now you need to have a solution for econ

[lost vault]

and you can mod mobile balatro

[junior urchin]

It’s round 2 bro 😭

[lost vault]

ive seen it done

[finite heron]

I think you lie

[echo sphinx]

om

[ebon condor]

i mean its def harder and has less support

so

but also modding capability is not relevant to this discussion

[lost vault]

its risky on an apple device cuz you gotta jailbreak it or something but its still a possibility

[frank grove]

Yeah it just allows for faster testing

[glossy mortar]

No it’s not a bug. It should work on debuffed cards. That’s what I’ve been saying. I’ve just never once had it work on debuffed cards. If it does somehow then idk why it has never worked when i try it.

[lost vault]

it really isnt but it sure was mentioned

[ebon condor]

fair enough

[lost vault]

it should, and it does, whats the problem

[median grove]

square joker + greedy joker good?

[rancid gull]

it doesn't work if you play more than one card

[edgy stone]

Do u also hate spaceman?

[rancid gull]

i feel like you're somehow doing that

[median grove]

or unrelated

[lost vault]

you may be mistaking debuffed cards for "not allowed" hands a la the psychic

yknow

that one time

[compact gazelle]

neutral synergy

[serene forge]

why are we still entertaining amphy ngl

[lost vault]

that im totally not making up

[compact gazelle]

cause they entertain us?

[lost vault]

theydont really interact

[ancient gyro]

u can ping mods

[ebon condor]

wanna know whats really fucked up though? how mime works with reserved parking and how steel cards make reserved parking pay out more

now THATS a weird unintended interaction thats ACTUALLY interesting

[lost vault]

they arent breaking any rules

[daring gazelle]

Just lost on The Plant on ante 7. Had Fibonacci, Negative raised fist, negative castle, yorick, photo, and hanging Chad.

[lost vault]

i thinjk4

[ancient gyro]

u can say rule 10

:P

[lost vault]

that is pretty weird but it does make sense if you think about it

[daring gazelle]

😑

[compact gazelle]

isn’t that to do with the parking actually just giving them 1/2 chance to trigger in hand effect and then giving them $1 as the effect

like
would fist/stm/baron work the same

[ebon condor]

ye

[lost vault]

baron is an econ joker :o

[ancient gyro]

or duplicate trading cards working but not duplicate 6¢

[lost vault]

more rarking procs

[junior urchin]

I sold the seed but take first rare skip for invisible take first buffoon pack for dna and second shop blueprint is immediately there

[serene forge]

i mean they're not breaking any rules directly, but we all know how amphy is

[icy vessel]

At everyone

[compact gazelle]

or
hear me out
don’t take dna, and make two blueprints then just win

[serene forge]

no

space jonkler is good

[serene forge]

you didn't sell

that seed is garbage

[ancient gyro]

oh well

[terse dock]

newgens dont remember the incident

what was the incident at your local high schoo;

[ancient gyro]

the juice incident

[lost vault]

i remver

[ancient gyro]

several bomb threats

[lost vault]

uwu

nya

[frank notch]

*remember

[lost vault]

rem,er

did i do ti :3

[haughty cairn]

🤓

[frank notch]

im living up to my pfp

[compact gazelle]

student died

[lost vault]

darn

[frank notch]

re mem ber

[fringe nebula]

amphy has been silent for an entire week and then came back with a wall of text 🥀

[lost vault]

re... mem.... men... menn :#

:3

[haughty cairn]

Ykw good for you be what you want

[knotty topaz]

Funnest run I’ve ever had, double stencil burnt brainstorm

[knotty topaz]

Add a cavendish to that now too

[frank notch]

how is this funny

[lost vault]

it seems amphy has retreated back to the depths

[tropic mulch]

Peak balatro gameplay

[lost vault]

it is not

[fringe nebula]

i love tarots

[serene forge]

actually you did sell

[fringe nebula]

tarots yummy

[serene forge]

wtf are you doing taking rare skips

[tropic mulch]

Tarots are delicious

I got ankh and a wrath

[haughty cairn]

If I see a rare skip ante 1 I will always take it

[tropic mulch]

Vaga from back

Ghost dex hex

*pack

[brave goblet]

Absolute madness

[tropic mulch]

Mad

[dire crater]

not every rare is good in ante1

[tropic mulch]

I GOT another wraith

[knotty topaz]

U miss 100% of the shots u dont take u could get a brainstorm blueprint invisible allat

i think thats how i got my brainstorm js now

[tropic mulch]

Stuntman….

[dire crater]

Anything but obelisk tbh, obelisk fucking SUCKS

[frank notch]

sunk cost fallacy

[haughty cairn]

If it’s bad, then who cares? It’s ante 1, not like I’m throwing a good run. It could be ancient or smth good

[dire crater]

-1 mult

[opal delta]

STEEL
BALL
RUN

[ancient gyro]

u talking about these

[frank notch]

steel joker baseball card runner

[dire crater]

-1.0x, for you

[fringe nebula]

obelisk is one of the best xmult for 8 ante runs

[haughty cairn]

Obelisk is so overhated people just see other people saying it’s bad and never actually try it and see how good it is

[compact gazelle]

obelisk is broken
but yknow photochad players don’t know that

[frank notch]

if you know how to use it its insane

[compact gazelle]

they don’t even know where chips come from

[dire crater]

If you cant use your best hand, then what are you going to do

[tropic mulch]

I hate obelisk, but it feels so good to complete a run with it

[knotty topaz]

@dire crater

[haughty cairn]

Play a different one?

[frank grove]

Any other hand

[frank notch]

you have 2 best hands, simple

[compact gazelle]

what best hand
ever heard of chips jokers

[frank notch]

pivot to the other

[compact gazelle]

you don’t need to level one hand type and rely purely on that
asking to get eye’d at that point

[dire crater]

Really man, the game hates you, just giving useless jokers

[ancient gyro]

#🕹・game-discussion message

🗣️

[ebon condor]

reaching a true state of hand agnosticism with red card and runner

[compact gazelle]

even when im focusing planets i still level up 1-3 backup hands

[knotty topaz]

i’ve never used obelisk but i could’ve gotten anything else

[ancient gyro]

every mediocre player thinks this is how it feels to play obbylicks

[fringe nebula]

i have more

[frank notch]

obelisk is really useful early because you can spam pairs until like ante 5 to 7 and then pivot to high card and get infinity xmult

[ancient gyro]

preferably not ante 7

[compact gazelle]

baron would be worse
depending on your hand type at least one of the hand type xmulters would be worse
there are others that could potentially be better or worse depending on more complex factors

[slow iris]

baron mine in non endless gold stake real

[ancient gyro]

humina

[slow iris]

can't believe judgement actually gave me a joker i haven't got a gold sticker on yet

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[serene forge]

you went 15 days back in time to shit on obelisk

[deep sequoia]

what card textures do you use if you dont mind me asking

[serene forge]

you really are a white stake player

[sand lily]

Deserved, o****** is trash

[serene forge]

conversely, least braindead obelisk run:

[sand lily]

I mean it's fine if you plan a run around it ahead of time or get a stroke of luck but it's a pain in the ass

[slow iris]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/581178

[sand lily]

I'd rather have hologram or constellation

[serene forge]

planning around obelisk is what you do without even trying because pairslop is pairslop

[median grove]

what builds is hiker best with?

or what hands

[haughty cairn]

Hiker isn’t good

[median grove]

what!

lies

[serene forge]

retriggers help, but hiker kinda just sucks

[median grove]

what!

[sand lily]

If I'm doing pairslop I want to continue playing pairs, not fumble around with other hands

[deep sequoia]

thank yoou

[slow iris]

hiker is just kinda fun because number go up but that's all really

[median grove]

is smeared joker good?

[serene forge]

you don't want fast scaling xmult that wins the game for you?

thats a new one

[haughty cairn]

Not really

[median grove]

what!

[serene forge]

it's decent

[deep sequoia]

if you're playing flushes then yes

[median grove]

are there any good jokers in the game

[compact gazelle]

pairslop with square is basically perfect to segue into obelisking it

[serene forge]

red card

[slow iris]

they're all trash actually

play jokerless

[haughty cairn]

No there is not a single good joker in the game

[serene forge]

segway guy