🕹・game-discussion

[gentle basalt]

i watch it at 2x, he recommends at least 1.5x

[narrow drift]

Oh yeah they are boring as hell but you secure that gs run

[red briar]

i know this

[pallid bone]

also a good start yeah

[woven spire]

Zaino is so underrated 🙏

[light brook]

this is the most important

[ancient gyro]

nah that's bloodstone numbers I wouldn't do that

[red briar]

how am i gonna order jokers when i dont have anything good to begin with

[rancid gull]

Bro you have to realize that a lot of jokers you see

Are actually good

[narrow drift]

Isn't joker placement kinda intuitive?

[red briar]

i only see decent jokers in later antes when i already have a setup going

[narrow drift]

Like you are allowed to read what the joker does

[red briar]

i just dont get econ at all

[pallid bone]

this is one of the most important things to understand on gold stake yeah

[serene forge]

you're probably being too picky with your jokers

most jokers that aren't called idol or showman are usable

[fringe nebula]

^^^^^

[ancient gyro]

you're not exclusively seeing showman idol seance levels of shit jokers every run yk

[red briar]

i have 5 jokers by ante 3

[light brook]

econ is the most importany PLEASE take econ

[opal pivot]

Is it possible for 6th sense to make souls or black holes?

[light brook]

are they good/synergy though

[light brook]

no

[pallid bone]

nope

[red briar]

decently

i still lose

[ancient gyro]

usually I don't dump all my econ that fast

[fringe nebula]

the fact that you ignored red card and runner at ante 2 already explained how you died honestly

[serene forge]

are they worthwhile purchases

[red briar]

i know how to put xmult at the right if that's what you're referencing

[light brook]

okay here’s a tip

[ancient gyro]

2-4 can be enough knowing what I get to clear specific blind requirements

[serene forge]

a single green joker carries you to ante 3 or 4

[stoic isle]

i've been saying this

BUY MORE JOKERS

[light brook]

keep econ high, and scaling jokers are king

[narrow drift]

Neither does holding spectral increase the chance of souls/black holes interesting fact

[pallid bone]

red card + runner easy gold stake win

[serene forge]

maybe not all the way but most of the way

[fringe nebula]

and easy white stake win in this scenario

[stoic isle]

if you're still gonna be over the interest cap after you buy the joker then it basically doesn't matter

[ancient gyro]

that depends

[light brook]

i learned a decent amount from roffle but to actually learn and not infer doc is the way

[ancient gyro]

if only I can stream my thought processes in game

[pallid bone]

doc is a good teacher for sure

[ancient gyro]

here

[stoic isle]

there should be a toad joker

[light brook]

it’s called reserved parking, it has a car getting toad

get it guys

get i

[narrow drift]

Roffle bullies you the fundamentals then you can learn advanced shit with Dr specter

[stoic isle]

lingo puzzles

[serene forge]

I hate Photograph

[rancid gull]

Honesty now that I think about it

[stoic isle]

i HATE h

[narrow drift]

I hate you

[rancid gull]

I think zodiac would be great for you too

[fringe nebula]

i love obelisk

[stoic isle]

:you_blundered:

[serene forge]

i learned from roffle but that was over a year ago

I wouldn't trust roffle now icl

[median grove]

best jokers for straight builds?

[stoic isle]

:l2underwaterbasketweaving:

[median grove]

i have the order now

[stoic isle]

run

[ancient gyro]

I don't think I learned anything from roffle back then

[pallid bone]

he does runs for content not to just simply win

[frank grove]

shortcut

[serene forge]

runner is not a straight joker

[fringe nebula]

i learned from roffle, and then i learned that dagger is actually a good joker

[light brook]

he makes a lot of risky plays on the same 4 builds so honestly fair

[fringe nebula]

🐴

[ancient gyro]

it was just aliensrock and northernlion binge watch

[narrow drift]

Saturn 🔥

[stoic isle]

-# what is it then

[pallid bone]

runner is for sure bi

[serene forge]

pair

[stoic isle]

-# what

[serene forge]

straights don't need the chips

[narrow drift]

YUP

[frank grove]

runner just scales from straights it works better with pairs cause pairs lack chips whilst straight dont as much

[pallid bone]

yep build some chips then play pairs

[serene forge]

1 saturn = 2 runner procs

[stoic isle]

i guess

[ancient gyro]

rofl tried to do a win streak attempt and got bored after the first win several months back

[narrow drift]

THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

[ancient gyro]

runner is unconditional scoring with conditional scaling

along with other examples

[median grove]

so its good for straights too?

and everything?

[stoic isle]

they should add frozen water into the game

[pallid bone]

all scaling jokers are that way tbh

[narrow drift]

Saturn is the best thing for straights

[ancient gyro]

it can be but it doesn't require you to fish for one to score chips

[narrow drift]

Then get xmult jokers

[frank grove]

yeah

[narrow drift]

You don't really need chips for straights a bit of lvls does the trick

[ancient gyro]

hologram and obbylicks limits you to certain hand types

[gentle basalt]

grimbo, bus too

[red briar]

did like 30 runs on zodiac only ended up winning one white stake run because i got lucky again

[ancient gyro]

the common hand scalers

[red briar]

that zanio video just basically said "put xmult after +mult, chips dont matter"

i already knew that because it's common sense

[frank grove]

god i love straights and space joker

[worthy tinsel]

Maybe 3oak, 4oak builds could work for you on erratic ig

[frank grove]

well my love for space joker must be put to the side its madness time

[marble cliff]

oh hey look at that, photochad yet again

[worthy tinsel]

[red briar]

if only i could get a high enough win to unlock erratic deck

[fringe nebula]

ok here's how to win balatro :
-find +chips, find +mult, find xmult 👍
-some builds get countered hard by certain boss blinds, so try to find a solution

👍

[ancient gyro]

didn't watch it but you can purposely lower your scoring to farm bus and other hand scaling. something most ppl do without actively spelling it out to get maximum joker value

[red briar]

i do this and still lose

[narrow drift]

YESSSSS

[red briar]

already knew this

[narrow drift]

ITS AMWAYS MADNESS TIME

[fiery nymph]

you forgot the baron mime photochad 🙁

[frank grove]

OOh and i got paint brush ok we win these

[serene forge]

It's just life

[red briar]

maybe i just do the same things everybody's telling me and still lose to my own ineptitude

[ancient gyro]

idt there's much more to elaborate on improvement without visually seeing gameplay

for better advice

[fringe nebula]

yeah

that's why i asked for seed

<@&1133519078540185692>

[marble cliff]

holy scam bro

[fiery nymph]

this scam is overused

they should at least find a better one

[craggy hearth]

Bam

Baum

Bum

[ancient gyro]

do you have a seed on a run you died on

while knowing enough about the decisions you did

or roughly

[red briar]

i would hop in vc and show you but i don't think anybody wants to watch a white stake player lose runs to stupidity

[red briar]

nope

i've replayed old seeds but havent made much progress

[fiery nymph]

what also helped me learn was screensharing while pros helped me

[stoic isle]

DISTRACTION!

[ancient gyro]

I think you'll come to realize how often we like to help ppl over all the funny shit we say here

[fringe nebula]

2RJXAPQX, blue deck white stake

there's red card and runner at ante 2

[median grove]

is ancient joker good?

what kind of hands should i use it for?

[fiery nymph]

flushes

[red briar]

well

i have time right now

[median grove]

what other jokers are good for flushes?

four fingers right

[ancient gyro]

oh I don't lol, I'm in a nursing home

[fiery nymph]

not really

[red briar]

ic

[fiery nymph]

retriggers, specific suit jokers...

honestly all you need

[median grove]

like hack?

[stoic isle]

i LOVE spade flushes!!!

[ancient gyro]

and some sort of card draw reliability against card draw bosses

[fiery nymph]

i mean if you can fix to hack ranks thats amazing

but ur better off with things like dusk

imo

more consistent

[median grove]

i thought dusk only retriggers on the last hand?

[ancient gyro]

varv can help maybe

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[fiery nymph]

thats all you need

[serene forge]

fingers sucks

[median grove]

is polychrome tag worth the skip?

[fringe nebula]

no

[fiery nymph]

no

[serene forge]

it's a strush joker

[ancient gyro]

aj usually takes more than one hand to find your specific flush

[median grove]

what other jokers for flush builds?

[rancid gull]

What vouchers do you buy

What do you like

[gusty vapor]

Nice

[stoic isle]

nice

[red briar]

normally stuff like grabber, paintbrush, astronomer (i think it's called that)

[serene forge]

for ancient joker it's just retriggers

[ancient gyro]

it's a permanent worse luchador for flushes

[gentle basalt]

telescope

[red briar]

ye telescope

[ancient gyro]

telescope is

ok

[median grove]

but how can i deckfix for ancient joker if i need every suit

[serene forge]

that is maybe the strangest analogy I have ever heard

[serene forge]

trim the deck

[gentle basalt]

you cant, thats the drawback of ancient

[serene forge]

keep your suits even

[fiery nymph]

just get discards honestly

[ancient gyro]

speaking from experience

[gusty vapor]

Pivot to photochad

[gentle basalt]

wild cards are useful (but then they might get debuffed)

[fiery nymph]

or get rid of low ranks keeping it even

[gusty vapor]

My beloved

[ancient gyro]

put wild cards on your most inflated suit

[serene forge]

a few wild cards can be useful but don't use too many

[ancient gyro]

if needed

[red briar]

is a free rare joker worth skipping for

[serene forge]

suit blinds will kill you

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[red briar]

in early ante

[gentle basalt]

no

[fringe nebula]

nope

[fiery nymph]

i mean

[red briar]

odd because BU said the opposite

👍

[fringe nebula]

?????

[fiery nymph]

ive won things because

[red briar]

idk who to believe anymore

[fiery nymph]

of that

[gentle basalt]

what? send video and timestamp

[median grove]

how do i get wild cards again?

[fiery nymph]

its niche i would do that if ur feeling silly

[serene forge]

I can't believe you did this andy

[median grove]

are they through tarot cards?

or spectral cards?

[cosmic sun]

BU has been saying things like "this could but fun" not necessarily "this is the right decision"

[gusty vapor]

This is my 5th time getting a good run with photochad but I can't go any farther than round 49 😭

[red briar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oudc8Ft7nak
3:05

[serene forge]

lovers tarot

[cosmic sun]

Important distinction

[fringe nebula]

old BU and modern BU are very different

[cosmic sun]

And BU also tends to show different decisions to make

[median grove]

and if i have ancient joker, should i use "the world" card

[ancient gyro]

the only things worth skipping for is investment tag a1 most of the time, a2r4 top up/mega buffoon, specific orbital tags, specific econ based tags in specific scenarios, aj for suit bosses, boss reroll sometimes, and that's about it

[median grove]

or is that bad

[gentle basalt]

but he does think it was the right decision

[median grove]

to have too many of one suit

[red briar]

so this video is outdated?

[fiery nymph]

"its very risky" is a good way to put it imo, its high risk, honestly meh reward

[ancient gyro]

yeah that's why I recommended some random gs run which he's been doing recently

[fiery nymph]

or it could be very good

[serene forge]

keep your suits even, don't use suit changers unless it's mid round and you need it to win because you didn't get your flush

[rancid gull]

Use clearance sale and overstock more for vouchers

Overstock lets you see more

[red briar]

i take overstock often

[serene forge]

clearance sale is overrated

[ancient gyro]

keep suit tarots upstairs in case of emergencies

[ancient gyro]

hey now

[red briar]

so find a random BU gs run

[serene forge]

I can destroy your reputation at any moment :3

[thick citrus]

Buy it ?

[fiery nymph]

recent videos

[fringe nebula]

and it has to be recent

[ancient gyro]

same, Jacky isn't here to govern us

[fiery nymph]

cery helpful

like

[serene forge]

fuck

[red briar]

is 7 days ago recent enough

[fiery nymph]

from 5 days ago

[fiery nymph]

yes

[rancid gull]

Gold stake strategies will be overkill

If you learn that

You will blast through early stakes

[serene forge]

sure

[red briar]

i don't mind ruining my skill if it means winning more runs

[serene forge]

wee is fun

[red briar]

i just want to get good at the game atp

[frank grove]

nice straight run

[red briar]

winning = fun for me

[median grove]

what other jokers are good with ancient joker?

[serene forge]

retrigger

[median grove]

besides dusk

[fiery nymph]

weee

[rancid gull]

WTF does this mean lol

[serene forge]

hanging chad

[ancient gyro]

chilly take 🌨️

[serene forge]

sock/hack

hack is better so you don't get planted

[fringe nebula]

i mean why not?? let's bring a rocket launcher to a paintball match

[cosmic sun]

wouldnt not ruining your skill make you win more

[red briar]

i don't mind learning the most overkill strategies if it means that overall i'll win more runs

[serene forge]

here win

[worthy tinsel]

[cosmic sun]

People saying pairslop lowkey devalues pair so much

It is oppressive because of blue stake yet it's one of the smartest things to do

[ancient gyro]

the most common consistent strats aren't very flashy for overkill on average, it just requires you to do "just enough"

[red briar]

but still

[serene forge]

plant doesn't counter photochad

[ancient gyro]

i say this with dumb asf screenshots

[red briar]

everybody's been saying that gold stake strategies work on lower stakes so

[fiery nymph]

i wouldnt learn pairslop until blue stake personally

[fringe nebula]

they do

[fiery nymph]

you have a lot more hand freedom

[frank grove]

they do work on lower stakes but on lower stakes you are freer usually

[cosmic sun]

not overkill just prepping

[worthy tinsel]

Seltzer (the botle of water on my ss), hack, sock and buskin, hanging chad, red seals

[cosmic sun]

and yes you can learn other strats because lower stakes are more lenient

which could be helpful in the rare cases you don't pivot to pair

unless obelisk

[ancient gyro]

they do but most of the time we explain the macros as it's more generalized advice that makes sense for most ppl. specific advice that requires micro such as knowing what specific suit or rank to keep in every hand/discard is harder to teach because it's very specific and has multiple branching variables

[worthy tinsel]

and brainstorm also

[median grove]

is hanging chad the banana?

[red briar]

is anybody free to watch my runs in vc and give advice

[median grove]

and doesnt seltzer break?

[marble cliff]

interesting development

[frank grove]

Seltzer does break but if you do one shot it doesnt break for a few antes

[marble cliff]

double photochad bro

[cosmic sun]

no VC in this discord 😔

[serene forge]

seltzer works for 10 hands

[red briar]

i meant in DMs or something

[serene forge]

if it's late enough you can full skip

[fiery nymph]

i would be down

[serene forge]

with it

[red briar]

cool, dms ?

[cosmic sun]

someone coach them im studying

[fiery nymph]

sure

[cosmic sun]

🦅

[frank grove]

and with ancient you might skip for the suit bosses anyway

[serene forge]

yeah

[worthy tinsel]

@median grove the joker with a hole is hanging chad
and yes seltzer expires after 10 uses

[median grove]

is fibonacci good?

[wintry ice]

i mean that's the whole reason why people call it slop

[worthy tinsel]

Yes

[fringe nebula]

sure

i'm in

[median grove]

and why did you cross out red seals?

[wintry ice]

it's the most consistent route in 90% of seeds

[toxic estuary]

broo

[worthy tinsel]

bc red seals are not jokers

[wintry ice]

average poly skip

[median grove]

oh. but is it good to be buying standard packs on a flush build? or do i want a smaller deck

i just got a red seal

or does deck size not matter for flushes

[frank grove]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[worthy tinsel]

Always the same trick

[worthy tinsel]

Depends

[wintry ice]

blue and purple seals are always useful

editions can also be powerful

[worthy tinsel]

For AJ you ideally want 10 cards of each suit, so 40 in total

[median grove]

what is AJ?

[wintry ice]

well i wouldn't take editions for aj

[frank grove]

ancient joker

[ancient gyro]

less than 10 is fine

[wintry ice]

speaking of which how do i guarrantee that i don't die of low flush levels with it

[worthy tinsel]

10 if you dont oneshot

[serene forge]

is there an issue

[ancient gyro]

the main purpose of aj is to one shot with flushes

[marble cliff]

this run is just getting stranger

[round zenith]

got distracted and didn't notice what boss it was when I skipped🥲

[wintry ice]

abandoned

[ancient gyro]

if you're required to 2 shot with aj flushes then that's a red flag

[fringe nebula]

poly skip lmao

[serene forge]

im being facetious

[median grove]

so i should get rid of low cards?

[wintry ice]

yea and that's the case i'm talking about

[serene forge]

they skipped for poly joker, they got poly joker

[wintry ice]

i'm thinking of taking saturns as a backup

[brave goblet]

I love burglar the econ jonker

[atomic trout]

What a great start, in debt

[ancient gyro]

but why though

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[worthy tinsel]

Yeah but not every run you will have stuff with AJ that oneshot
Somefays ago I had AJ and some chips from runner as my only score, so I needed to use 2 AJ flushes

[median grove]

is photograph good with AJ?

[frank grove]

yeah early on, but in the case of having your deck fully fixed you shouldve found something before you finished deckfixing to 10 or less of each suit

[wintry ice]

yea

[ancient gyro]

problem is, aj is already hard enough to meet the requirements once. by the time you have the resources to thin out your deck to the point of consistent draws, you already have enough levels expended to one shot, therefore ignoring the 10 card suit requirement

[atomic trout]

I"m fucked

[ancient gyro]

figures

[frank grove]

you sold sixth sense?

[median grove]

so which cards should i delete first in a flush build?

2, 3, and A and K?

or only low cards

[ancient gyro]

credit card stinks on painted

especially

[atomic trout]

Yeh, it sucked

[frank grove]

but it was foil

it would've saved you from using bones right away

[ancient gyro]

even suit distribution, non face non fib cards

so like ig 7 and 9

if I had the ability to micro

at the given speculative moments

all in all suit distribution is the primary derivative

[frank grove]

also try not to destroy hackable cards either until you find retriggers you never know

[median grove]

ooh the tribe is good too right

?

[median grove]

okay thanks

[ancient gyro]

no lol

[ivory reef]

I’m suffering from success

[median grove]

how is the tribe not good for a flush build?

[frank grove]

2x is very small

[median grove]

its x2 if the hand contains a flush

[gentle basalt]

too weak, its fine to take it ofcourse, but there are way better stuff

[median grove]

but what is better

retriggers?

[ancient gyro]

the payout stinks for the effort being put in

[frank grove]

if you have the money and the slot take it but if you dont try to save money for rolls for retriggers and deckbuilding

[ancient gyro]

as a standalone

[wintry ice]

tribe is fine for aj

[ancient gyro]

x15 or x2 as a whiff is ok

wouldn't take it under multiple tags

[median grove]

deckbuilding aka tarot cards?

[frank grove]

Yeah

[median grove]

steel card is good right

[ancient gyro]

it's not required

but sure

[worthy tinsel]

Idk I had runs like these from time to time with AJ, thats what I recommend to new players that try to play AJ at least 10 of each suit

[ancient gyro]

I don't recommend it as a hard rule simply because abandoned exists

[ancient gyro]

and supplemental resources being able to do both most of the time

[median grove]

is magic trick a good voucher

with AJ

[ancient gyro]

no

[terse imp]

why does my balala have ads

[onyx marlin]

CHADADOR SAVED MY ENTIRE GOLD STEAK RUN, BACK TO HELL FROM WHICH YOU CAME FROM

[hidden lance]

need some reset after nan inf chasing

[digital pewter]

another three gold sticker run i'm goin gros michels

also i realized i've somehow never won a run with rocket at the end

[humble gulch]

"Here, win"

[digital pewter]

pretty nice...

satellite, flowerpot, rough gem, golden ticket, luchador, ice cream, sixth sense, hack, business card

all the ones i have left to do

[median grove]

foil or holographic?

[digital pewter]

kinda depends

super early game holographic is good

[median grove]

for a flush build

[digital pewter]

past that it kinda becomes foil

[digital pewter]

probably foil

[ancient gyro]

depends

[frank grove]

is this jokers or on a standard card?

[median grove]

i think im in late game im on ante 6

on a card

[ancient gyro]

holo card is pretty self explanatory

[digital pewter]

then probably holographic

[junior urchin]

Natural negative luchador is genuinely the exact same thing as a get out of jail free card

[median grove]

but i thought holographic was bad?

late game

or foul

[frank grove]

holo is bad on jokers later game

[digital pewter]

i kept mistyping foul

[ancient gyro]

again, context matters

[frank grove]

also you probably shouldnt be looking at adding cards to your deck right?

[median grove]

but its a wild card

so a wild holographic normal card is good?

late game

non joker

[ancient gyro]

it's ight

[median grove]

okey

[frank grove]

yeah its fine

[twin lantern]

what do i replace 😭 ?

[ancient gyro]

if you're already one shotting it's not completely necessary

[frank grove]

throwback probably, either that or crafty

[ancient gyro]

for the other guy

[spark night]

actually just had a random thing happen and im genuinely curious what the odds are of this happening

[median grove]

what should i replace for dusk?

in my flush build

[frank grove]

What are your jokers?

[median grove]

bull, photograph, steel, ancient, and the tribe

[atomic trout]

All glass.. had to carry me

[frank grove]

probably steel

[terse imp]

will ts actually be 3x mult

[cosmic sun]

I rent

[worthy tinsel]

Is the next boss a debuff suit one?

[ancient gyro]

i spent

[cosmic sun]

pantaloons...

[spark night]

(Same shop)

[terse imp]

ok wtf

[dense stag]

this is incredibly funny

i love it

[terse imp]

need this

[dense stag]

based reference #WeLoveuBlockOrigin

[versed sable]

dang lmao

that's impressive

never seen that iirc

[tepid forge]

never had so many jokers in my life

[atomic trout]

GG

Even with only Ass Cards

[nova leaf]

Unusual full house run

[atomic trout]

And High Card only

[nova leaf]

i fucking hated it

this hand is sooooo dogshit

[viral raft]

always trust in pants

[versed sable]

which size of joker do you want for $8
lmao

[median grove]

what should i get rid of for dusk?

in this flush build situation

[frank grove]

Whats your flush level at and whats steel joker at?

[median grove]

flush is level 10 and steel is giving x1.2

i only have one steel

[frank grove]

yeah steel goes

[median grove]

also i feel like still is bad with flush builds, because everytime you copy a steel card you also copy its suit

but then there is an imbalance

in suits

am i right about that?

and then you need to put wild on thesteel

[frank grove]

yeah, its also hard to hold the steel in hand when trying to draw flushes its easier on white stake though

[barren wigeon]

or you could just..... copy steels of the same suit youre trying to make

thats definitely not the issue with steel and flushes lol

[gentle basalt]

Does not work with AJ

[median grove]

yeah i have aj

dont i want them all to be balanced

i guess its good if im playing with one suit

[daring perch]

don’t make steels on aj

[median grove]

...lol

[barren wigeon]

steels with aj seem pointless

[gentle basalt]

Steel is anyways mostly useless with flushes, so just remove that

[daring perch]

for single suit flush runs steel is fine

[ancient gyro]

yeah you're not given much discard power if you're planning to find a 5th aj card while keeping steel in hand

[daring perch]

but only fine

[barren wigeon]

wild is just steel but better for AJ

[median grove]

should dusk be all the way on the right?

dusk joker

[frank grove]

doesnt matter

[ancient gyro]

order doesnt matter

[olive stirrup]

Hot potato PEAK

[pure crow]

Well this is definitely an interesting start....

[versed sable]

retrigger joker order never matters, trigger effects sometimes matter (with a +mult and a ×mult joker, + should be to the left of ×)

[balmy ocean]

A tough choice we got here…

[versed sable]

immolate the two cards lmao

[median grove]

is x25 multi for every blind skipped this run better than photograph joker?

i feel like photograph joker is not very useful with this aj build

[versed sable]

.25

not 25

[median grove]

oh ye

[frank grove]

are you making sure to put photo cards last

[versed sable]

photo is much better lol

[median grove]

ohhhh

no i put it first always

[frank grove]

yeah put it last unless you have chad

[past ocean]

Has anyone has an issue with Multiplayer and Cryptid starting you off with all hands at level 0

[marble cliff]

How do red retrigger chips pair with cards like chad? Is it better for brainstorm to copy chad or photo?

[versed sable]

copy photo

[fringe nebula]

with a red seal i think photo is better, wait lemme do math

[versed sable]

without brainstorm:
2 scoring effects, 5 triggers (photo + glass, card + redseal + chad + sock)

[balmy ocean]

What kinda site is that?

[versed sable]

it's 2×7 vs 3×5

[frank grove]

https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/

[balmy ocean]

Thanks, can’t wait to use this once and then forget about it 😃

[marble cliff]

Do red seals add 1 retrigger to the overall counter, or do they add one retrigger for each time they are played (ignoring the times they play themselves)

that question is probably very confusing 👍

[haughty cairn]

They cause the card they are on to be triggered one more time

[olive stirrup]

HOLYYYYYYY

[slow iris]

lucky card gave me $20 back :D

[versed sable]

yay now i know my scoring cap

[fringe nebula]

is that bean bug

[versed sable]

play card = 1 trigger
red seal = +1 trigger
chad = +2 trigger
dusk = +1 trigger
etc

[versed sable]

yea

[south path]

i always see people getting that far, is it easier with plasma deck or is it seeded bc i can never get past ante 10

[versed sable]

plasma and 107103810731 resets (approximately

[lone granite]

Anyone else have the achievement " shattered " bugged. I already do it 4 times and i just dont get it.

[median grove]

i got my first score above 1 million!

[south path]

any tips on beating blue stake i just beat black stake, im doing it on blue deck

[rough prairie]

Start getting used to non 5 card hands

[south path]

always play a setup that encourages me to play with two pairs is that viable

thats how i beat black stake

square joker supernova etc

[versed sable]

-# play better
-# play pairs more often
watch good players (spectred or roffle are the main two i watched) and you'll pick up some stuff
otherwise ask someone else lmao i did c++ but i'm not great

[fringe nebula]

it's easier on plasma

[fringe nebula]

what deck are you using

[south path]

blue

[fringe nebula]

blue deck blue stake i see

[frank grove]

oh yeah i would do pairs more than two pairs by default

[haughty cairn]

Don’t always force two pair play around the jokers you find

[rough prairie]

2 pair...might be worse then pair

[median grove]

how did i get 8 million on the last hand and 470,000 on this hand

what?

[south path]

do people usually build around specific hands or na

[frank grove]

with dusk active and a face card last both times?

[rough prairie]

Yes

[haughty cairn]

Yes usually pair or high card

[versed sable]

also
plasma ≈ score² if you're in endless
since score is ((chips + mult) /2)²
5 chips and 999,999,995 mult is 2.5e17 on plasma, 5e9 on anything else

[fringe nebula]

on high stakes, people mostly do pair builds because it's spammable, good with blue seals and has less counter boss blinds

[south path]

wait isnt building on pair or highcard worse then two pair

i tried to build around high card once

it failed

even with half joker

[rough prairie]

High Card builds use a lot of effects from cards in hand like Steel cards with red seal

[fringe nebula]

that is where blue seal, chip jokers, and scaling mult comes in

[haughty cairn]

No, pairs and high card are easier to play and build around, and there are more jokers that support them such as supernova or green, and you can keep more gold/steel/blue seals in hand

[rough prairie]

Baron builds, which use high card is probably the easiest to get naneinf with

[south path]

dude i always see people with insane blue seals and steel cards how do i get much while saving money

[rough prairie]

But you really shouldn't worry about that. Two Pairs don't give a lot of benefit over pair. They're just slightly better on chips, same mult scaling and way less consistent

[versed sable]

definitely*
though "high card in gold stake" and "high card in plasma" are wildly different builds lol

[median grove]

yes

now i got 800,000

what the hell?

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[median grove]

how did i get 8 million?

[serene forge]

pairslop

[rough prairie]

Saving money is about knowing when you're safe to not spend. If you know you can beat like, the boss blind with your current setup there's no reason to spend a lot looking for ways to improve your scoring

[rough prairie]

Lucky Cards? Or maybe you had more steel in hand

[haughty cairn]

What jokers do you have?

[south path]

how fast should i get a good looking deck with a good amount of steels and golds

[slow iris]

gold stake straight flush build real

[median grove]

oh i think i wasnt on the final hand lmao

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[serene forge]

you should not aim for baron builds in regular gameplay

[brazen island]

Just got my best gold stake win streak on mobile!!!

[rough prairie]

We don't have a channel for MLB?

[haughty cairn]

I assume that would be in the multiplayer server

[median grove]

guys

i got my first score of 100,000,000!

[south path]

how do i beat ante 10 idk what to like improve on

[median grove]

should i switch out any of these jokers to get higher than 100,000,000?

what is the weakest link here?

[deep sequoia]

probably bull

[median grove]

what should i replace it with?

[haughty cairn]

You could switch bull for any other retriggering joker

[median grove]

fibonacci or something?

[median grove]

like fibonacci?

[deep sequoia]

fib doesnt retrigger

[haughty cairn]

Like hanging Chad, sock and buskin, etc.

[atomic warren]

about to die to plant :P

[deep sequoia]

i think if you're going for a specific hand build then you can do space joker for now until you roll buskin or chad

[haughty cairn]

Negative luchador in buffoon pack

[serene forge]

well for endless specifically you do need a baron build which requires you to get a lot of money and deckfixing

[terse dock]

Tribe is misplaced also tribe is bad if you find better xmult replace it

[versed sable]

bull thinks its on the team

[deep sequoia]

you dont necessarily have to do baron but it's probably the best one for naneinf

[atomic warren]

you dont NEED baron for anything

[atomic warren]

i thought perkeo was the best naneinf

[serene forge]

baron's just objectively better than everything else is what im saying

[terse dock]

its easier than idol so yeah you probably need it

[haughty cairn]

Any retriggering xmult like ancient, bloodstone, photochad can get you past ante 10

[deep sequoia]

this is from yesterday but i was going for the achievement for wee joker and i accidentally got stuntman too

[atomic warren]

but an idol run feels so good to pull off

[terse dock]

A lot can get past ante 10, ante 12 is the equalizer

[median grove]

where should tribe be? at the very end? also is ramen better than tribe?

[median grove]

noted

[deep sequoia]

i'd say they're tied in efficiency

[frank grove]

tribe should be before the polychrome aj

[terse dock]

Before the polychrome, no because you should be discarding for gold cards

[frank grove]

but 5 extra mult is kinda negligible at this point

[wet burrow]

is it even worth it?

im trynna get as high as possible unseeded rn

[atomic warren]

its always worth it

[wet burrow]

idk

[deep sequoia]

ramen is more of a temporary joker you'd have antes 1-4 maybe just to get early xmult but you wouldnt keep it. Idol is always good if you have proper deckfixing

[terse dock]

your best pull is chicot

[versed sable]

ehh
nah

[terse dock]

Not really

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[wet burrow]

i have so many red seal gold kings im making so much money

[deep sequoia]

it would be funny though

[rough prairie]

only 1 hit? naah

[median grove]

i dont think i have idol or sock and buskin unlocked

but i do have hanging chad unlocked so ill lokk out for that

[wet burrow]

ik but i lose money

[deep sequoia]

yeah

[serene forge]

no

[pale trout]

i only discovered pairslop at like orange stake cmon bro

we can do better

[atomic warren]

theres always next run

[terse dock]

If you've hit 1 mil you have idol

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 4

[wet burrow]

this is worth right?

sell gold?

[atomic warren]

its always worth

ive died to an invis so many times

[versed sable]

probably

[atomic warren]

but its always worth

[deep sequoia]

yeah probably

[drowsy rain]

This games too easy (lost 3 times a row before this)

[serene forge]

3/17/26 balatrodle in 3

[deep sequoia]

another run from yesterday i screenshotted before i died

i had good luck yesterday

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 4

[serene forge]

no

you need ticket econ

[wet burrow]

too late lmao

its okay i find a natural negative ticket next round easy

[deep sequoia]

never stop betting on a random negative that perfectly suits your run

[drowsy rain]

0 sarcasm detected. You will be receiving that nat negative

[rough prairie]

Any nat negative is halfway to naneinf, everyone knows that

[terse dock]

nat negative showman

[deep sequoia]

i pulled a negative jimbo once and then i decided i would never roll for negatives again

so

[final gazelle]

Should I take it?

[wet burrow]

it's back 😮

[deep sequoia]

i dont think you need it

[steady marten]

Yo wsg guys I have a question

[final gazelle]

I think the showman will probably end up giving me something better

[steady marten]

Do challenges have pre-setup seeds?

[haughty cairn]

Sell ancient you can find a better scoring joker if you have more rebates

[steady marten]

Or is it random like normal?

[median grove]

im in ante 11

should i use - 1ante - 1 hand?

[serene forge]

sell suck

[final gazelle]

Found brainstorm :)

[steady marten]

This was literally my first attempt at the omellete, 2 legendaries

[wet burrow]

yeah. i really need to find ecto or antimatter here lol

[serene forge]

i think you should sell rebate for it

[south oasis]

socksockchadchadphotophoto

[tropic sluice]

W W

[median grove]

should i use - 1 ante - 1 hand in ante 11?

[limber leaf]

I always do no matter what

[haughty cairn]

Yeah why not

[slow iris]

peak

[limber leaf]

That late in to the game youll either 1 shot or lose anyway

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[slow iris]

hmmmmm

[serene forge]

why

[south path]

how to build high card build

[limber leaf]

More prep time

[serene forge]

losing a hand is bad though

[sleek valley]

Why do I love planetless runs so much?

[serene forge]

a lot fot he time

[limber leaf]

Yeah, but pros usually outway cons

[serene forge]

do they

[south path]

i think ive used it on the first time i beat balatro, it gives insane time for things like supernova thats what i was using

[subtle loom]

finally

[limber leaf]

Most of the time

[subtle loom]

i dont play balatro as much anymore

[serene forge]

it usually does not

because again

-1 hand

[subtle loom]

cuz it drain phone battery too much

[south path]

i mean i was using blue deck so it didnt affect me so

idk about other things i barely use hieroglyphics

but usually when im on blue deck with growing things i usually like to use that

[sleek valley]

Anyway, im stuck on purple on plasma

[median grove]

wait so i should?

i definitely replace bull with ballot here right?

ante 11

[terse vale]

ludwig add aboba emote

please

[brave goblet]

get rid of the tribe

[terse vale]

pleasehh

[brave goblet]

whole ahh x2 💔

[limber leaf]

Yeah

[terse vale]

oh ew tribe

[median grove]

okay ill get rid of tribe, but then what should i replace bull with?

[median grove]

but tribe is giving me + 10 mult because its holo

[haughty cairn]

Replace bull with hanging Chad

[brave goblet]

your photochad mult happens before the +10

[wet burrow]

I need some advice. do i sell gold and take this and then just stop rolling till i find another ecto or antimatter?

[median grove]

i dont think i have hanging chad unlocked

[limber leaf]

Its the one youre on rn

[brave goblet]

I've legit never attempted or even seen a trib naneinf before so I actually dunno

[limber leaf]

Yes

[median grove]

what do you mean?

[brave goblet]

if you don't have the ticket, how are you gonna make your money

[haughty cairn]

It’s the one that said not discovered

[brave goblet]

You'll survive for sure

[median grove]

oh i mean sock and buskin

[median grove]

because now i dont know what to replace the tribe with

[serene forge]

flat mult is completely useless with onscored xmult

and its also ante 11

[serene forge]

it's not feasible

[brave goblet]

You'll be looking for either sock or blueprint/brainstorm

[serene forge]

anything other than a standard baron naneinf is a meme pretty much

[brave goblet]

stencil ankh/ecto themed naneinfs

[pale wolf]

you can ostensibly perkatory if you reset enough after gaining enough experience

its only like 1 in 4 applicable filtered seeds or something like that

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[quaint stag]

this challenge fucking sucked never again

[shell dagger]

do it

[pale wolf]

banned for encouraging mobile modding

🦓

[pale wolf]

twelf

what was it

[quaint stag]

golden needle

[pale wolf]

oooh right

[quaint stag]

decided to see what the seed has and ante 9 is petro and then the next two shops have blue print brainstorm

[pale wolf]

🤙

[quaint stag]

no

[pale wolf]

<@&1133519078540185692> im scared

[smoky merlin]

understandable tyvm

[quaint stag]

wait i might crack e numbers lmao

[median grove]

guys should i pivot around hack?

or is it too late because im on ante 11

[wintry ice]

guys he might crack 2.71

[haughty cairn]

No

[versed sable]

could get rid of tribe and go for it :3

[median grove]

???

gaahhhhh

[haughty cairn]

You already have photochad

[median grove]

i kind of want to

[wintry ice]

you already have dusk

[ancient gyro]

linear, tactile, or clicky

[median grove]

i can have both

[versed sable]

it's more score for now regardless

even if you just have two hack cards

[wintry ice]

i went back to painted after getting a good enough score for the tournament and got greeted with this

[median grove]

but wouldnt hack scale better than photo chad?

if i can play for long enough

[ancient gyro]

the what

[wintry ice]

balatrorg season 7

they're having a season focused on getting as close as possible to a specific score

[haughty cairn]

Oh you can just get rid of tribe for hack

[red briar]

low cortisol deck

[wintry ice]

this round's target is absolutely diabolical

[fiery nymph]

i think i cooked

[median grove]

should i pivot to hack you think? or keep photo chad and tribe

[serene forge]

fork in kitchen

[red briar]

swiss cooked

[ancient gyro]

guess the marbles in a jar kind of tournament

[median grove]

does the position of hack matter?

[wintry ice]

also why is discord labeling you as a likely spammer

do i know you from somewhere

[haughty cairn]

No it does not

[ancient gyro]

must be bitcoin baron reincarnated

[red briar]

low cortisol scoring ❤️

[wintry ice]

reminder to not greed superposition

even on painted

[ancient gyro]

what have you done

[green sonnet]

brother.

[wintry ice]

tried too hard for 1 tarot

[ancient gyro]

💔

[wintry ice]

well that's good atleast

[ancient gyro]

table for humina

[wintry ice]

what

[ancient gyro]

spongebob reference

[wintry ice]

square

neat

hm

not very sure if it's worth the slot

[ancient gyro]

open spectral first

[quaint stag]

i unironically beat the water with a pair

lowkey goated seed

[ancient gyro]

prob not

[red briar]

it's coming

[wintry ice]

cryptic

[ancient gyro]

yuck

[terse vale]

fib runs on painter are always fun ,,

[terse vale]

I dont think so ?

[wintry ice]

no space

[ancient gyro]

they already have chips and mult of some form

[terse vale]

yeah

[wintry ice]

cat would be fun

[median grove]

oh my fucking godf

I FORGOT TO TRIGGER IT ON THE LAST HAND

nooooooo

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[wintry ice]

blue or poly here

[ancient gyro]

fits right in

bluey

[wintry ice]

actually glass is kinda similar to poly

well uh

[ancient gyro]

also one strength away

gguh

[terse vale]

bro by the way I turned 16 yesterday and I just wanted 2 say you guys heavily influenced me and that i’m glad to be apart of this community I would not be who I am right neow if I wasnt good at balatro and I wouldnt be good at balatro without you guys

[wintry ice]

that's lucky cat's weird younger sibling

[terse vale]

[ancient gyro]

more chaotic cousin

[frank notch]

*now

[terse vale]

idk cus you need glass

[wintry ice]

time to immediately destroy my glass blue

[terse vale]

I mean it is gonna 1/2 and you’ll probably be holding a justice

[wintry ice]

pivot

[cosmic sun]

I would change 16 to 1 and repost this message but then Discord would slime me out

[terse vale]

oh yeah blue seals

[red briar]

gg balatring

[median grove]

how do i unlock sock and buskin?

[wintry ice]

.

[median grove]

how

[wintry ice]

just play face cards a lot

[median grove]

oh i think i already have it unlocked

because i dont see the achievement

[wintry ice]

i probably should have taken square as a chip backup

[median grove]

i might have just gotten really unlucky

[ancient gyro]

I would've just went with the planet route

[wintry ice]

i could have also played a 3oak before the 4oak to get there ig

well this looks good atleast

[tepid forge]

i lov throwback so much

[fringe nebula]

do scary face score more here

than blackboard i mean

i think blackboard and business card should stay

[versed sable]

with two pair? heck no

with high card yeah but that seems about it

[slow iris]

say that again?

[loud flicker]

120 chips tops vs x3

[wet burrow]

o7 😢

[slow iris]

4oaking it

[junior horizon]

I LOVE THIS REFERENCE

[rocky helm]

New Legendary idea: Fireplace, it's more of a buffed campfire that functions exactly like campfire except it grows by 0.3x and also loses only 25% of mult per boss blind

[wet burrow]

should i 100% this game before the update?

[humble dune]

Change this to 0.2 and loses 40% and then make that replace campfire

[wet burrow]

I'm only missing 2 achievements

[humble dune]

Wheres c++?

[rocky helm]

wdym

[wet burrow]

i have it

[rocky helm]

are we serious

oh wiat

yeah wut

[humble dune]

Gyah dayum

[rocky helm]

bro just grinded one deck?? @wet burrow

[wet burrow]

more like 4

[humble dune]

Thats just impressive

[wet burrow]

i genuinely crashed out on black deck

couldnt beat purple

[rocky helm]

bro can i get doc's texture pack anywhere or is it top secret

[indigo mesa]

ayy

[brave goblet]

I think if you join his discord server you can get it

[indigo mesa]

looking for another baron mime endless build here, hopefully this time i dont randomly decide to sell a necessary joker right before naneinf

[indigo mesa]

anyways goodbye scary face

[brave goblet]

I really hope that bloodstone is a nat neg

[rocky helm]

well that server is top secret

[rancid gull]

please tell me it was ecto'd

[indigo mesa]

HOLY

[brave goblet]

It's not, just donate like $1-$5 to get in

I think

[plain ermine]

doubull

[rocky helm]

nice

just do that seed on plasma

[rancid gull]

you can beat plasma now!

[indigo mesa]

sock?

yea sock

[coarse shuttle]

yall got any tips for black deck ante 8 win?

[rocky helm]

what steak

[rancid gull]

filet mignon

[plain ermine]

investment tag is always good but it's extra good on black deck

[fringe nebula]

luchador looked at me in the eye and asked
"what's the fucking point"

[rancid gull]

this is what I was made for

THis is my moment

[rocky helm]

i watched doc's two part "naninf" series and now i have false hope that i'm good enough to do a build like that 😔

[rancid gull]

Freedom for you mason, not for me

[rancid gull]

it's just some luck and good econ

[fringe nebula]

i didn't expect myself to actually do 2 pair build ngl

but you have to make use of what the game gives you, so......

[rocky helm]

i really want trading card but i never get it😢

[indigo mesa]

i cant tell if its better than parking (i have paintbrush)

[fringe nebula]

def better than parking

[rocky helm]

probably yeah

[indigo mesa]

slam your head into a brick wall over and over so that your used to the pain

is it? js with brainstorm mime and five hands parking is pretty useful here lol

[rocky helm]

just bs chad

have a hand dedicated to econ

[indigo mesa]

well sure but when i brainstorm parking rn i FARM money. i have 4 hands dedicated to econ rn

[rocky helm]

what hand do you play

[indigo mesa]

to win? high card

copying photo is how i survive the blind

[fringe nebula]

for black deck, there are two ways : the hard way, or the cowardly way

-the cowardly way, you reset until you have a strong start that guarantees victory
-the hard way........... you know it

[rocky helm]

rawg you copy chad????????????

[indigo mesa]

ante 1 investment into grabber and then u still somehow get fucked: the black deck experience

[rocky helm]

especially now that you have bloodstone????????

[solemn hazel]

Is this joker order ok?

[indigo mesa]

without bloodstone u 100% copy the photo thats straight up optimal
but yea if im playing a heart card i copy chad because of bloodstone
why are u so pressed

[rocky helm]

i thinkkk one on baron

[solemn hazel]

Aight

[rocky helm]

because gold is better here

[indigo mesa]

no, bp and bs should copy baron even if you have steel kings without red seal

[coarse shuttle]

i never get good early game jokers

[indigo mesa]

i dont have golden ticket yet?

[fringe nebula]

currect Black Deck++ progress : 37/150 gold stickers

[rancid gull]

i've hit a bit of a roadblcok with bd++

i'm doing so ahh rn

[fringe nebula]

not surprised lol

[solemn hazel]

Aight

[indigo mesa]

actually if u have all steel kings without red seal copy baron and mime but only in that specific scenario

i missed a trigger lol

[fringe nebula]

do i do grimbo or stm here

[rocky helm]

that's why you take it......

[fringe nebula]

i feel like stm is safer

[median grove]

what kinds of hands are best with sock and busin and photograph?

pair? 4oak? 3oak?

[rocky helm]

high

card

[fringe nebula]

3oak or 4oak

[rocky helm]

well yeah

[fringe nebula]

i..... think i should go grimbo instead

[median grove]

which is better, 3oak or 4oak?

and why not pair?

[fringe nebula]

because pair is slow with photo build

[indigo mesa]

i will, but youre just saying things in a really weird order
i was explaining what i am currently doing and then u were like “wtf youre doing it all wrong u copy chad” even tho that applies to after i take ticket and not the current scenario
idk why ur trying to make me out as so dumb here

[fringe nebula]

atleast with 3oak you will get +2 mult for each planet level

[median grove]

but isnt 4oak better than?

[indigo mesa]

ok wtf 😭

[fringe nebula]

assuming you have enough tarot gen to deckfix into 4oak, then yes

otherwise 3oak requires less deck fixing

[edgy stone]

Take Ancient for Strush build. Trush me

[indigo mesa]

oh true true

[light brook]

good

[wintry ice]

complete and utter stupidity incoming

[indigo mesa]

if they said square i woulda left the server 😭

[light brook]

well squares not bad by any means at all but wee and runner are miles ahead

[wintry ice]

that's the final straw?

[indigo mesa]

no one can attack my goat wee

[wintry ice]

i mean it is the obvious answer

[light brook]

wee is the best chip scaling in the game no doubt

[indigo mesa]

i mean yea if square won that would just tell me there’s nothing left for me in this server 😭

[fringe nebula]

i.....

forgot that i only have 3 hands

🐴 🐴 🐴 🐴

[wintry ice]

would have been better than someone saying "all of these suck"

[light brook]

“grr i hate chips”

[indigo mesa]

i genuinely dont know what to sell here, i need the mime cus im looking for baron endless, the photo im worried could kill me if i sell, same with chad but chad is also at least $8 per round, and ticket is so much money, i havent even gotten one round with it 😭

[fringe nebula]

skip