🕹・game-discussion

[serene forge]

like 10-6 straights for example

[frank grove]

aces can only be played at very high or very low straights whilst things like 10s can be played in more

[terse dock]

Something very good

[fiery nymph]

but i still dont know why

[serene forge]

you cut your end cards

[keen pilot]

That's kinda an amazing negative to get on a naneinf attempt :0

[versed sable]

check collection

[serene forge]

to draw your middle straights easier

[wintry ice]

jack to 7 straights are what i prefer

because photo is strong for then

[candid gust]

i didn't have it on my collection

[wintry ice]

so i cut down low ranks first

[calm furnace]

yeah photochad is insta win

[fiery nymph]

hmmm

[stoic isle]

i HATE straights!!!

[fiery nymph]

im still puzzled

[versed sable]

then buy it and see

[wintry ice]

unless i have like bus or whatever

[serene forge]

if you play edge straights you only have one "side" to possibly complete the straight

with middle ranks you have two "sides"

[fiery nymph]

oh

[serene forge]

so they're more consistent

[fiery nymph]

OH

[wintry ice]

thankfully half the server isn't straight

[frank grove]

yeah play the 10-6 straight much more

[fiery nymph]

THAT MAKES SEBSE NOW

thanks guys

[versed sable]

inside straight draw vs outside straight\ draw

[lyric karma]

awesome natural negative hit

[wintry ice]

middle straights be like i have 2 sides

jack and 6

[fiery nymph]

so superposition just sucks all the time

😭

[serene forge]

worst tarot gen imo

[wintry ice]

it's for early value specifically

[fiery nymph]

yeah a few early tarots

[lyric karma]

I hate superposition

[wintry ice]

8 ball has a higher ceiling and a similar floor

[versed sable]

2345 = 2 possible draws
A234 = 1 possible draw
@fiery nymph^

[serene forge]

superpos is something you kinda try a little to play for early

but you don't build for it

[fiery nymph]

gets outshined by every tarot gen

[frank grove]

yeah

[grizzled tusk]

skill issue if anyone thinks it sucks

[versed sable]

Superposition is still good but if you're gonna be playing straights you aim for middle deck, so you tend to cut outer cards like aces

[wintry ice]

yea so you play it kinda like runner

you play straights and then don't

[fiery nymph]

thank you

[frank grove]

yeah

its the same as runner you play superpos for tarot gen only not as a bonus for playing straights

[wintry ice]

you can make a case for late superpos in like

[fiery nymph]

okay so what are signs to start the run

[wintry ice]

painted or abandoned

[fiery nymph]

as a straight run

[rocky helm]

hi guys

[fiery nymph]

like an early planet?

[frank grove]

early saturns can help

[fiery nymph]

in idk zodiac

[wintry ice]

large amounts of saturn, shortcut, order, arguably 4 fingers

[glad viper]

hi spamto- SPAMTON G SPAMTON??

[red briar]

holy shit!! i just won zodiac i think

[ancient gyro]

late as in if superpos isn't the worst joker in your roster

[versed sable]

||||

[red briar]

verdant leaf free boss

[serene forge]

I like to use hanged mans on edges to possibly facilitate straights later

[frank grove]

yeah

i also dont like aces in general

[lyric karma]

true, true

[red briar]

tight!!!

[ancient gyro]

boo

[candid gust]

what do i sell

holy moly

[wintry ice]

you like to use what where now

[grizzled tusk]

cavendish, trust

[serene forge]

abstract

[serene forge]

no not like that

[red briar]

by the way i broke michel on like ante 2 and never saw cavendish once

[ancient gyro]

yeah that can happen

[rocky helm]

guys i literally done gold stake but i cant do black deck white stake,, how do i do it

[versed sable]

i usually just cut low cards because having a deck of something like K-7 is still perfectly good for straights
and it's easy to remember what i'm doing if i always cut low cards 😭

[red briar]

michel is still very good for early mult tho

[versed sable]

sometimes if i remember i'll hold the 2s incase of a Wee Joker but tha's about it

[red briar]

🤤

[ancient gyro]

you need two specific guaranteed events to occur in order to reap the rewards

[red briar]

i think my next challenge is red deck red stake

[ancient gyro]

sure

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[candid gust]

do i take baron? for what

[ancient gyro]

just play what you like

[rocky helm]

baron is propoganda made by the naninf runners

[serene forge]

why would you ever take baron

take hallu

[frank grove]

yeah no dont take baron

[ancient gyro]

it's easier to learn when you're playing on the deck you have fun with

[candid gust]

idk

[serene forge]

over lusty

[worthy tinsel]

tbh with AJ and cavrndish it should be an easywin

[red briar]

i liked zodiac alot

it gave alot of freedom

[serene forge]

if you're thinking about buying baron you probably shouldn't

as a rule of thumb

[rocky helm]

my fav was yellow because i can get money

[ancient gyro]

yeah, more shop is fun

[grizzled tusk]

least brainwashed baron fan

[red briar]

mystic summit ante 1

we're winning these

[serene forge]

i played a lot of blue deck as a noob

[ancient gyro]

still plays blue deck 🗣️

[serene forge]

evil kirbyfan647 be like

[stoic isle]

common blue deck w

[rocky helm]

bluedeck is fun always

[stoic isle]

commons are blue actually

[serene forge]

blue joker is rare

[worthy tinsel]

baron is nothing there tho
you can pick whatever and AJ with cav should be an easy win

[sand lily]

This works weirdly well, I had a ton of deck manipulation and rough gem early on for econ, then I could do diamond flushes every time

[lyric karma]

"I don't like skips bc skipping is losing money"

[red briar]

is marble joker worth taking?

[rocky helm]

guess the deck

[serene forge]

depends

[red briar]

i could go for a high card stone build

[sand lily]

plasma

[red briar]

im ante 2

i have time

[stoic isle]

i thought blue joker was an uncommon with foil

[serene forge]

ghost

[rocky helm]

no 😔

[sand lily]

tragic

[rocky helm]

nebula

[lyric karma]

[stoic isle]

where is your background

[lyric karma]

i hate N(ebula deck)

[stoic isle]

i HATE nebula deck!!!

[rocky helm]

i hate nebula deck

[serene forge]

I hate Plasma Deck

[stoic isle]

and

[rocky helm]

you'll never know

[serene forge]

Green Deck

[stoic isle]

i HATE hess!!! 📊

[lyric karma]

where is the blunder on these guys come on

[rocky helm]

synergy

[lyric karma]

Why me only

[red briar]

i dont want to play pairslop but the game forces my hand sometimes

[rocky helm]

"plasma" ahh run

[red briar]

pairgem alert

[lyric karma]

All roads lead to pairslop

[rocky helm]

i will be trying this seed on plasma after

[lyric karma]

Where is your mult

[red briar]

it's only for the early antes i tell myself

then i find myself with lvl 16 pair

[rocky helm]

blackboard + hand levels

[candid gust]

do i get mime?

[frank notch]

painted

[red briar]

this game needa chill out

the same lineup every deck bro

[lyric karma]

i was waiting for something like "dont need it" but fair

[rocky helm]

guys.

goodbye one stuntman

[lyric karma]

Holy handsize

[balmy flame]

why does score jump up so much at ante 12

[rocky helm]

exponential growth

[balmy flame]

just got there with a blueprinted 26x canio, a rocket and a trading card

it was so fucking fun ramping the canio up like that

[rocky helm]

alr i got mult

[balmy flame]

I love yellow deck

[frozen tendon]

which should i grab? i was thinking riff raff

[candid gust]

i get dna for what?

[stoic isle]

FROG

[worthy tinsel]

nothing tbh

[red briar]

red deck red stake frying me

[candid gust]

really?

[grizzled tusk]

sell ancient

[candid gust]

ok

[frozen tendon]

what

don't sell ancient

drop the nana

[frank grove]

this seed is fucking crazy it has blueprint first shop, brainstorm first shop ante 2 and again in ante 3 and then blueprint again what is going on

[worthy tinsel]

yes, ancient and cavendish is enough tbh

[rocky helm]

speaking of blueprint

[frank grove]

Can i even sell anything for the bp here? i dont think so sadly

[red briar]

guess we're playing flushes now

[mortal nimbus]

it's better than brainstorm due to sequencing

[willow frost]

yeah probably brainstorm

[frank grove]

Yeah i guess

i didnt, but like yeah that would be the play

[willow frost]

whatever its fine

[red briar]

would gluttonous be worth taking for early mult or should i gamble on the buffoon pack

[frank grove]

i dont need to copy the card sharp anyway

[frozen tendon]

is it riff raff or stuntman

[willow frost]

youll probably find a negative one given how good this seed is apparently

[frozen tendon]

actually i'm going riffy

[serene forge]

ZDGKEYG4 has perishable rental superposition round 1

[willow frost]

obviously riff raff

[rocky helm]

time to try this on plasma

[willow frost]

is this the new naneinf seed

[stoic isle]

i'm thinkin

[red briar]

can someone help me with earlygame stuff

im lost on what early basic cards are good

[olive stirrup]

That texture pack looks cool

[frank notch]

do i take soul here?

[rocky helm]

thx

[olive stirrup]

Broski that's ragebait 😭

[keen pilot]

Also not a bad negative on a naneinf attempt :0

[frank notch]

i dont think it would provide value right now

id have to scale it

and jolly joker's my flat mult and losing my flat mult might kill me

[serene forge]

meh

[serene forge]

do you need jolly

[olive stirrup]

All legendaries give value almost in every context

[frank notch]

pair at 3, 2 pair at 5

[olive stirrup]

Nice

[keen pilot]

Not long term ofc, but it will probably make transition to mult easier

[serene forge]

bruh

[frank notch]

scaling? first time you get yorick and canio theyre at 1

[olive stirrup]

Both are fairly easy to scale

[frank notch]

i cant scale them in shop

[serene forge]

they have no flat mult at all

[frank notch]

theyd be dangerous to pick up right now

[serene forge]

I don't think they can take it

[grizzled tusk]

bro made a decision before even posting it

why ask at that point

[red briar]

this is odd normally i dont find red deck this hard

[frank notch]

i might make a bad play by not taking soul

[serene forge]

they're explaining the thought process

they're not literally asking others to make every move

[frank notch]

i'm gonna skip it

[red briar]

is seltzer good for early ante scoring too

[serene forge]

not particularly

[worthy tinsel]

4oak aces ig

[fringe nebula]

no

[serene forge]

seltzer without enhancements is just a bad ice cream

[red briar]

im kinda lost on

what to do earlygame still

once i have econ and stuff setup im okay-ish

it's just getting it up

[serene forge]

did you know that the seed SILKSONG has ante 1 hieroglyph and petroglyph

[red briar]

what happens if you get an immortal seltzer

is it just infinite

[serene forge]

food jokers can't get eternal

[red briar]

oh

that makes sense

[fringe nebula]

food jokers and luchador can't be eternal

[olive stirrup]

Is that true?

[red briar]

this run is rooough dud

[fringe nebula]

invisible too ig

[serene forge]

other than egg but thats different

[wintry ice]

egg is the only exception if it counts

[serene forge]

since egg isn't required to be sold to get a benefit

[frank notch]

seriously

i BETTER get a negative luchador

[wintry ice]

because it's a streamer reference

[frank grove]

god i love castle

[red briar]

in a situation like this on ante 1

what should i do

im so stuck on earlygame

[wintry ice]

i'd take glutton

[worthy tinsel]

I love ghost ceck

[red briar]

and then just play flushes?

[wintry ice]

for now yea

[viral raft]

i'll never understand how Black deck is on the same game with Ghost deck

[frank grove]

i loveee caslte

[red briar]

until what, ante 2?

or until i reach interest cap

[faint linden]

I hate Bloodstone

[viral raft]

well done

[wintry ice]

until you get something that enables pairs or some other hand

[viral raft]

WE hate bloodstone

[frank notch]

weakest discarder

[red briar]

all roads lead to pairslop

[wintry ice]

truthfully

[frank grove]

I just love getting castle and just deck fixing for it its just so nice

[red briar]

is pairs like the safe option

[keen pilot]

Baron+mime right before ante 8 boss after 1 reroll o-o

[worthy tinsel]

idk either tbh, but is nice to have a difficult deck in the game

[stoic isle]

pairs is the EVIL and BORING option

[faint linden]

Pairs are the meta

I try to challenge myself and actively avoid pairslop

[stoic isle]

real ones play flushes

[serene forge]

glutton

hack is useless

[red briar]

i just want to learn the game

[jagged cliff]

you know where the heats at

[faint linden]

What do you call 5oak enjoyers?

[red briar]

mime found 🔥

[stoic isle]

five guys

idk

[serene forge]

flushes are generally the most consistent hand when jokerless or with weak jokers

[midnight talon]

thats why i think its the best hand you can play

[faint linden]

Unless you're in a weirdly specific scenario where something else is more consistent

[midnight talon]

or when you are in a specific scenario where the only hand you can play is flush

[faint linden]

Jimball (or something that acts like it) should be added. It's merely a reverse Obelisk

[stoic isle]

i HATE 3oak!!!

[stoic isle]

@mortal dock

[red briar]

it's ante 4...

and i'm still playing flushes

[stoic isle]

good

[midnight talon]

checkers deck?

[stoic isle]

keep playing flushes

[red briar]

i will surely perish soon

[stoic isle]

flushes are good

[jagged cliff]

Never stop flushing 🗣️

[serene forge]

should post the seed next time you die

[midnight talon]

i only play checkerd deck so the only hand i play is flush

[red briar]

i got mime + certificate

i think i'm going places

[stoic isle]

synergy

[red briar]

physics.

[serene forge]

play a flush hourse

[keen pilot]

I'd say this is a decent start

[serene forge]

nat neg juggler

holy moly

[keen pilot]

yup

[red briar]

this is the current state of my deck

[jagged cliff]

Sorry Soul, this is not the time

[midnight talon]

get it

yorick in the play

[jagged cliff]

Nahh, I already had a yorick earlier in this run

[worthy tinsel]

the family is doing nothing lmao

[faint linden]

ChiGOAT to cancel Plant

[keen pilot]

also, 16 kings in a 36 card deck

[midnight talon]

chico and yorick gon carry this run

[red briar]

how did i survive the club boss

when my whole mult is based off clubs

[faint linden]

Skill

[midnight talon]

luck

insane luck

[red briar]

physics

[midnight talon]

speaking about balatro

checkerd deck black stake

here i come

[jagged cliff]

you got this

first try

[red briar]

lvl 10 flush

[keen pilot]

OMG, chat, it's photochad!!

[serene forge]

raised fist

take it

[red briar]

gulp

[jagged cliff]

Really needed that antimatter but he never showed up 💔

[red briar]

kind of late

[serene forge]

damn

[keen pilot]

oof

[red briar]

i did just get

mystic summit tho

[serene forge]

I hate Endless Mode

[jagged cliff]

Let me get my first PC naneinf

[serene forge]

im just saying

[frank notch]

i just took 3 immolates

[serene forge]

losing in ante 23 is so fucking sad lmao

[worthy tinsel]

funny

[midnight talon]

gro michel to save

no exptions

gros michel it is

[jagged cliff]

i think you should hold R

[midnight talon]

FUCK OFF

[jagged cliff]

[midnight talon]

ITS GONE AFTER 1 ROUND

[red briar]

it's called... deck fixing

[mortal dock]

yes

[midnight talon]

ill take lusty joker tbh

[red briar]

mime plus certi

means this

calm 11,020 base chips

aand i just got sacrificed to the big needle

gg

[hidden flame]

Easy red stake win

[red briar]

ante 1 dagger

[frozen tendon]

can someone help me figure out what scores most

should i sell two jokers for 10+ mult and x2? I have to sell a joker for the final boss blind so it would give x2

[terse dock]

"Here, Win"

[red briar]

this run is doomed to fail

ante 4, ceremonial dagger only,

[keen pilot]

The most score you can get is by using Perkeo on a plasma deck black stake to make copies of ankhs, ectoplasms and cryptids, using which you'll make a whole bunch of mimes and barons to..
Oh, you meant in this situation

[red briar]

i have found zero plus chips

[frozen tendon]

thank you for your help haha

[fringe nebula]

mind showing planet level?

<@&1133519078540185692>

[red briar]

this aint facebook marketplace

[keen pilot]

I think green is carrying here, way more than abstract and walkie talkie

[fringe nebula]

yeah take photochad

[willow frost]

the other way is to be drdreamo

[trail sierra]

Lol first day soliciting

[frozen tendon]

sorry, abandoned deck. i was thinking about taking stencil.

[final viper]

woah

mint green

pretty colour

good choice

[errant bolt]

👁️

[fringe nebula]

yeah stencil would make you score more

would keep the chad if you have glass card though

[frozen tendon]

don't

[tepid forge]

the photochad whispers to me "change ur whole build"

[frozen tendon]

what two jokers do i sell?

[final viper]

has photograph always looked so evil?

[frozen tendon]

chad and abstract?

[keen pilot]

This looks trippy

[tawny bough]

holy peak 😭 i just picked up bp and photo 2seconds ago

[red briar]

why does +1 hand size feel alot more than it actually is?

[tawny bough]

because it is HUGE

[rocky helm]

guys how do i get satellite

like what deck

ik how to get it

[faint linden]

Unlock by having $400 in a run

[rocky helm]

ik but where should i get 400

green?

[keen pilot]

I tried my best..

[faint linden]

I did Anaglyph

[rocky helm]

oh yeah

alr ill do that

[faint linden]

Investment Tags

[rocky helm]

yeah

[keen pilot]

sadge

[tawny bough]

fkins old

sold

[rancid gull]

Dude!? Insane pull

[faint linden]

Gold Stake Erratic Deck Ante 2: I have RtB, so is Burglar worth it? Also in the shop: Grimbo, Arcana Pack, Jumbo Arcana Pack

[rocky helm]

just send screenshots

[faint linden]

11 faces

[lyric karma]

wow

[faint linden]

My camera is ass and I'm playing on Xbox

[fringe nebula]

dude?! insane pull

[keen pilot]

Okay, this will hopefully prevent this run from going the same way..

[olive stirrup]

Here, win

[red briar]

im going to lose :CCC

red deck red stake will kill me

[rocky helm]

in the flesh

[olive stirrup]

GG first ever win on black stake

[rocky helm]

yes bro

[red briar]

lost the run

but unlocked this

i hear he's fun

[rocky helm]

i love stencil. top 10 jokers for me

[olive stirrup]

Do i take dusk?

[rocky helm]

this is a game changer now with the chance of unlocking

[rocky helm]

no

[red briar]

half joker to start off 🔥

[olive stirrup]

In early game half joker is one of the best

[red briar]

yes he's beautiful

is mail-in rebate a good moneymaker

it seems like it would be good for econ if you get the card to discard

[faint linden]

Yes

[frozen tendon]

saving zodiac for my last gold stake so i can end happy

i don't really have any hard ones left though.

i hate nebula tho

[red briar]

i keep losing earlygame ud

ante 1 and 2 are my biggest problems

mainly because i cant find good setups

[red briar]

holy econ

[olive stirrup]

Omelette challenge

[terse dock]

Omelette?

[olive stirrup]

Photochad for brainstorm?

[red briar]

Mult.

[woven spire]

i’m pretty sure a single swash can beat omelette right?

[red briar]

ante 3 son

[olive stirrup]

@red briar what a name bro

[red briar]

i jugg people

i jugg chips

[olive stirrup]

Furrypawjugger

[red briar]

i jugged jimbo last week

[olive stirrup]

Your user

[red briar]

yes.

[vital parcel]

Bruh ts was hard

[olive stirrup]

Not ur name

[red briar]

if i can find something with lots of mult i could be in serious bizznis

or even just enough jupiters

[olive stirrup]

Even scratch cat beated black deck gold stake 😭

[calm furnace]

but chat told me planet tycoon is bad?????

[final bone]

Anyone here like cream cheese?

[calm furnace]

5x in under 2 antes

[vital parcel]

I was ptettty much just playing the non perishable challenge lol

[calm furnace]

noway i would get that scaling with chad tycoon

[vital parcel]

6x madness at the end

[rancid gull]

Planet tycoon is not good

[calm furnace]

its ass unless you have constellation

like magic trick is to hologram

[rancid gull]

Yeah, that’s the one scenario lol

Satélite valué

[calm furnace]

which kinda i dunno having vouchers that are only good for 2-3 jokers is not the best design

[calm furnace]

nah that one easy to maximize without planet tycoon

[rancid gull]

Tarot merchant I like more

[calm furnace]

tarot merchant fucks

[rancid gull]

Tarot tycoon a lil too much

But I fw that one too

[calm furnace]

the lvl2?

[rancid gull]

Yes

[calm furnace]

i dont think i ever bought it outside of endless

oh wait, i forgot another scenario planet tycoon is good, for campfire

if you have full joker roster

you want to see less jokers and more consumables in the shop

but campfire is so good i never ever needed a full joker slot

rentals for scaling is too good

[ancient gyro]

I might have one of those complicated campfire seeds stored somewhere on my photo gallery

[coarse shuttle]

chat what do i buy

[lyric karma]

free shop tag?

[tranquil oyster]

depends on ante, econ, and how stacked your supernova is.

[coarse shuttle]

yeh

[versed sable]

nah, clearly the common skip tag

like the uncommon and rare skips

[coarse shuttle]

60 dollars, straight is 12 and high card is 15, ante 8

dont ask, i got the game yesterday

[calm furnace]

sell nova buy and sell both

[coarse shuttle]

k

[red briar]

FINALLY

RED DECK RED STAKE ONE

DONE

with the most wack ass build ever

2 joker stencils, a gift card, a mystic summit and a dream

[tranquil oyster]

if you're just going for an ante 8 win , you might as well sell the nova for popcorn (make sure to buy and sell the other joker too for free money).
and pro tip - always put polychrome jokers to the right! jokers triggers left to right.

[cloud sinew]

summit seems like it was probably worse to keep tbh

[coarse shuttle]

ik
i accidentally sold popcorn

[red briar]

yeah, but it got the job done in the end so

gg

[cloud sinew]

you would go from x9 from stencils to x16 from stencils, and you lose +15 but you had +10 from holo and you probably had a few levels in your played hand

[red briar]

yeeeah

anyways

ante 1 constellation on zodiac deck

[cloud sinew]

it wouldve made the difference at green and purple stake

[tranquil oyster]

just keep rerolling until you find another easy +mult joker, on white stake you can do anything.

[fickle plaza]

[red briar]

i won't be playing green and purple stake for a while

[cloud sinew]

it's about the principle.

[cloud sinew]

you would be punished for that if you werent on red or white stake

[red briar]

i guess

i have no clue what to do next

i still cant get good joker hands consistently

[woven spire]

try new decks

just enjoy the game

[red briar]

i don't really enjoy losing at ante 2

[woven spire]

don’t get too stressed about it

[woven spire]

you’ve already won twice, the learning curve gets better at that point

like much better

[red briar]

i've won a little more than twice i think

[woven spire]

just enjoy the game, new decks, new stuff

[woven spire]

even better

[red briar]

can i check that somewhere ?

[olive stirrup]

Why green

[woven spire]

in the main menu, left bottom, click ur profile

[red briar]

i have 8 wins

[woven spire]

pretty good

[fiery nymph]

i love burnt joker

[cloud sinew]

??

because theyre just going for white and red stake wins rn

[fiery nymph]

also

[red briar]

in the grand scheme of things 8 wins isn't all that much

[olive stirrup]

Oh

[ancient gyro]

marathoner

[red briar]

but i see where you're coming from

[fiery nymph]

those two are probably the biggest jumps

[fickle plaza]

burnt joker my love

[faint linden]

Is RtB/Burglar an anti-synergy on Erratic? My deck has ten 10s and 11 total faces

[cloud sinew]

how many aces

[devout heron]

wtf do I sell

[red briar]

is the jump from red to green stake that large

[faint linden]

4

[cloud sinew]

you need 2x as much score at ante 8

[red briar]

what

urrrhmm yeah no

[cloud sinew]

then yes i think youre fine to take rtb and burglar

[ancient gyro]

depends on aces and various face card combinations

[faint linden]

Purple is double green

[red briar]

i think ill keep doing blue deck white stake

until i learn the game somewhat

[fickle plaza]

no money

[fiery nymph]

i like blue deck a lot

[rocky helm]

nice i got satelitte

[cloud sinew]

what the hell is this colour scheme

[faint linden]

4A, 3K, 5Q, 3J

[red briar]

if you get grabber you have 6 hands to play with which is nice

[undone steeple]

Seed?

[rocky helm]

i just investment tagged

[tranquil oyster]

start black deck and don't drop it until you beat golden stake. trial by fire.

[fickle plaza]

idk

[ancient gyro]

im sure you'll have a more valuable learning experience climbing up the stakes rather than playing the easiest no punishment stake

[willow frost]

i love this build so much

[faint linden]

Wait until you find out about Nacho Tong

[ancient gyro]

it's doable

[cloud sinew]

they have ~300 losses and 8 wins, black deck is not going to be a good learning experience for them.

[red briar]

it'd take like 100 runs to get one good one

[faint linden]

So get Burglar? This is Gold Stake

[ancient gyro]

if you had like 7 jacks I'd be a little skeptical if both are eternal

yeah

[faint linden]

Neither are eternal and my most common card is 10, which I have 10 of

[ancient gyro]

if burger isn't eternal

[red briar]

so what should i be playing then?

to get better of course

[ancient gyro]

blue deck and climbing up the stakes, slowly getting used to the harder difficulties

[willow frost]

then do that lol

[red briar]

so i should try blue deck green stake?

faaah

i guess bro

[faint linden]

Probably the Challenges after winning 5 different decks. Each one teaches you/tests you on something different

[ancient gyro]

if not blue deck, play whatever deck you like the most and learn what you did wrong for every loss and minimize the risk of that

[fickle plaza]

no more burn joker

[ancient gyro]

challenges are not the best method of skill improvement

[fickle plaza]

[willow frost]

wdym i learned so much from fragile

[faint linden]

Anecdotal evidence. They taught me a lot

[red briar]

errr

[willow frost]

like what

[red briar]

all these challenges seem like some buuullshit

[willow frost]

swashbuckler works well with 5 omelettes?

[faint linden]

15-minute City taught me how to properly scale

[cloud sinew]

whatever is easiest until you get to a stake that you arent able to beat for a bit, and then move on to the next easiest deck.
ill give you the top 4 for winning imo:
blue > yellow > abandoned > zodiac

[red briar]

how is abandoned easy to win?

[faint linden]

Checkered is also an easy one to win

[willow frost]

the first ones are easier than regular runs trust

[red briar]

i thought no face cards would be bad

[cloud sinew]

12 fewer cards in deck means you can see way more of your deck

[faint linden]

Straights/Full Houses

[red briar]

i guess i can try the omelette

[cloud sinew]

you can play straights very easily on abandoned

[willow frost]

yeah gl

[cloud sinew]

omelette is a deceptively difficult challenge for a beginner

[faint linden]

Only 40 cards, you draw 20% of your deck each hand

[red briar]

faahck

alright alright

i'll try white stake abandoned deck

[willow frost]

the absolute worst that can happen is you sell the omelettes to get a crap ton of money lol

[cloud sinew]

the absolute worst that can happen is you never find an alternative econ source than selling your eggs

[fiery nymph]

the real challenge is no interest

💔

[ancient gyro]

a likely story

[fiery nymph]

interest my beloved

[tranquil oyster]

omelette was deceptively hard imo. it's an awkward situation where trying to keep up with scoring necessitates ruining your econ.

[faint linden]

Need some xMult right now

[cloud sinew]

the challenges taught me very little about how to play well

[fiery nymph]

they teach you how to beat the game jokerless

💔

i guess

[red briar]

challenges seem like very niche situations that just wouldn't happen in a typical game

[ancient gyro]

oh wow look at this specific gimmick I can't carry into my gs runs

yeah

[cloud sinew]

on white stake with no jokers in shop or packs and only 2 finishers

[fiery nymph]

yeah exactly

[ancient gyro]

they're simply a switch up from the vanilla experience

[fiery nymph]

mhm

just niche challenges with fun twists

[patent shard]

can i naninf this lol

[fiery nymph]

(most of the time)

[red briar]

abandoned deck seems really har

[ancient gyro]

you can learn some things but nothing that isn't exclusive to challenge decks

[fiery nymph]

its easy

[red briar]

dud im like struggling

[cloud sinew]

it's top 3 because you can see so much of your deck and draw hands very consistently

[faint linden]

Burglar screwed me over

[cloud sinew]

lack of faces arent to blame for that /gen

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 5

[cloud sinew]

it's that youre not using the deck as intended

[worthy tinsel]

do I kill the run for the funnies?👀

[hybrid tendon]

yes

[worthy tinsel]

k

[red briar]

so the only way to win on abandoned is to do straights or something?

[woven spire]

i’d say you tho

[ancient gyro]

abandoned practically let's you find value cards you added into your deck way more frequently

[tranquil oyster]

abandoned is pretty good but you usually having to spend 2 hands on ante 1 small blind just kills me. especially since there's a like 5% chance you still get it in one.

[ancient gyro]

you can play whatever you want generally, pairs and straights just happen to be slightly more comfortable

[woven spire]

Full house of aces and 10/9/8/7

[fiery nymph]

two pairs and pairs are great in abandonned

[woven spire]

or poker

[red briar]

pairs are kinda hard to get going early

[ancient gyro]

that maneuver isn't the deciding factor of ending runs

[serene forge]

3/15/26 balatrodle in 4

[tranquil oyster]

109876 isn't enough.
you need aces.

[cloud sinew]

i got it in 7 i think

[serene forge]

everything is buffed on abandoned because the deck is so much smaller

[cloud sinew]

they werent saying straights

[worthy tinsel]

I just need planets and thin the deck

[ancient gyro]

35 chip fh

[serene forge]

face cards aren't that useful in most scenarios, like unironically

[cloud sinew]

they literally said full houses of "aces and 10/9/8/7"

[serene forge]

shouldve sold mars for interest

[ancient gyro]

AAA22 fh one shots small blind a1 but not 88855

[tranquil oyster]

oh yeah i misread that.
that's the 5% i was talking about, full housey with aces and the occasional 4oak / straight flush

[worthy tinsel]

nah

[cloud sinew]

face cards are mainly for econ

[worthy tinsel]

I want more jupiters on shops and packs

[red briar]

i just got rtb on abandoned deck

it's just so free

[cloud sinew]

its free normally

abandoned doesnt really make RTB much stronger

it just lets you turn your brain off

[red briar]

that's my exact issue though

[cloud sinew]

its like having an eternal with dagger

[tranquil oyster]

rtb is free if you go pairs and you usually want to go pairs anyway

[ancient gyro]

and ig makes eternal burger less of a general risk

[olive stirrup]

Business card ahh

[cloud sinew]

faceless, parking, midas mask...

[olive stirrup]

Gng what is RTB?

[fiery nymph]

i honestly hardly use them in most if my runs because of

[cloud sinew]

ride the bus

[red briar]

ding ding ing

it's here

[cloud sinew]

take both

[ancient gyro]

gguh

[olive stirrup]

Triboulet, photograph, scary face, happy face...

[cloud sinew]

those are not econ jokers

[olive stirrup]

Face cards are for scoring bro

[ancient gyro]

funny looking econ jokers

[ancient gyro]

they can be

[olive stirrup]

Theyre not MAINLY for econ

[cloud sinew]

the reason why faces suck for scoring is because theres an entire boss dedicated to countering 3 ranks

[cloud sinew]

yes they are

[red briar]

what should i do from here on???

[olive stirrup]

It can be econ but not mainly

[tranquil oyster]

flat mult jokers with no clear lategame role feel like econ jokers

[red briar]

earlygame is still weak for me

[cloud sinew]

yes they are

[ancient gyro]

theyre mainly for econ as face econ can't be hard countered

[cloud sinew]

the primary utility of faces in deck is that they enable a lot of econ sources

[fiery nymph]

use each hand as much as you can, the more you scale the better for these earlier rounds just try to use all your hands

[cloud sinew]

they are secondarily a scoring source because they are hard countered

[olive stirrup]

Rebate can be versatile with every rank

[cloud sinew]

okay?

[cloud sinew]

what does that have to do with what we're talking about

[red briar]

i have trouble getting straights ngl

especially with burglar

[cloud sinew]

twin

what did i tell you before /rhetorical

[tranquil oyster]

burglar is a pair hc joker

[cloud sinew]

you dont need to draw them consistently

[ancient gyro]

#off topic

[red briar]

but stiiilll

i wanna upgrade it as much as i can

[olive stirrup]

Because face cards are important for econ, but there are other ranks that have econ too

[fiery nymph]

face cards are more consistent imo

than a rebate

[olive stirrup]

Like with gold seal

[humble gulch]

YES

[fiery nymph]

sometimes

[red briar]

is it worth taking anything from here?

[cloud sinew]

i would not

you already have runner which is very good chips on abandoned

[red briar]

half joker is behind the text

[ancient gyro]

nah

[serene forge]

here win

[cloud sinew]

wouldnt take that either

[olive stirrup]

Every card could be better than business card for example

[stoic isle]

i have free will

[cloud sinew]

your argument is meaningless

[ancient gyro]

thanks for being on topic of the original standpoint

[worthy tinsel]

I think this just wins

[tranquil oyster]

half joker would be good here imo given that you have burglar

[cloud sinew]

it would not

it hinders bus scaling

[olive stirrup]

Bro 3$ per trigger is better than 1/2 for 2$

[cloud sinew]

and theyre scoring enough as is

[fiery nymph]

yeah dont get half

[ancient gyro]

please stay on topic

[fiery nymph]

just scale bus!

[terse vale]

face cards only got econ going for them sadly

[terse vale]

what are we talking about here

[olive stirrup]

Like there are better econ joker that not rely on face cards

[serene forge]

there should be a bot that you can ping for any major logical fallacy

[cloud sinew]

we are talking specifically about face cards being more for econ than for scoring.
i am not talking about econ sources AS A WHOLE

[worthy tinsel]

I´m skipping

[ancient gyro]

face card econ is their biggest general benefit

[cloud sinew]

I'm aware, but that isn't what I was saying

[ancient gyro]

better options ≠ more options

[cloud sinew]

I'm saying faces are primarily for econ, not that econ is primarily with faces

[red briar]

should i hex something

[serene forge]

no

[cloud sinew]

no

[red briar]

to be a real funny guy

[cloud sinew]

just talisman

[serene forge]

talisman

[fiery nymph]

gold seal

NOW

[terse vale]

face cards are only reeeally good with econ
reminder stay on topic

[red briar]

next spectral pack

[olive stirrup]

That's what I'm talking about, like there are other sources of money as well apart from face cards

[cloud sinew]

THATS NOT

[ancient gyro]

talisman on 8 or 9

[red briar]

got incantation and medium

[cloud sinew]

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

i'm blocking you, idc if youre ragebaiting youre annoying me either way

[terse vale]

yes!

[ancient gyro]

oop

[red briar]

is incantation strong on abandoned deck

[ancient gyro]

no

[cloud sinew]

not really

[terse vale]

but we’re talking specifically about face cards

[red briar]

aw :C

guess ill take a purple seal instead

[willow frost]

thought you said A**HOLE in all caps and that was about to be the funniest shit lol

[ancient gyro]

kinda undoes the benefit of abandoned

[olive stirrup]

Broski I'm just trying to talk 😭

[terse vale]

if you don’t care to discuss it then dont discuss !

[worthy tinsel]

yeah sure

[cloud sinew]

that wouldnt be deserved, but it would be funny

[willow frost]

apparently you cant say that word in this server?

[stoic isle]

they should invent

uhh

[olive stirrup]

Sell for seltzer if less than 4 hands

[willow frost]

they really should

[stoic isle]

uhhhh

[ancient gyro]

wdym I can't say vulgar booty hole word

[tranquil oyster]

paredoila synergizes well with abandoned if you think about it... works with every card instead of just 70% of all cards

[stoic isle]

invent new frogs

[serene forge]

censoring rules here is so weird

[fiery nymph]

faceless is actually good econ i like it

[stoic isle]

idk

[red briar]

could it be useful to convert them all to one suit

[serene forge]

you can say mf but not the full word

[cloud sinew]

it doesnt really synergize well with it though

[terse vale]

[serene forge]

deja

[olive stirrup]

Why are people reacting with horses to everything I say?

[ancient gyro]

you like to be not on topic

[cloud sinew]

as you arent going to be taking face card jokers for their effect before having parei

[terse vale]

I don’t think we’re even supposed to reeally curse here but nobody gaf

[ancient gyro]

so ive heard

[olive stirrup]

I don't understand the relation with horses here

[serene forge]

where's the screenshot of the guy on reddit asking whether to take round 1 bus or parei on abandoned

[ancient gyro]

you should know of all ppl

[cloud sinew]

🐘 so i've heard

[willow frost]

yeah they let in fuck but not random words like bum bum

[ancient gyro]

and the n word

[cloud sinew]

or mf unabbreviated

[willow frost]

its strange

[fiery nymph]

i feel like people overhype bus on abandoned when its actually just good everywhere

just a wee better in abandoned

[cloud sinew]

it's 3% better on abandoned

[serene forge]

i got a guy here into vampire survivors because i showed him the horse character and he said there was caked up amongus in vampire survivors

[olive stirrup]

Blood for brainstorm?

[terse vale]

n

no

[serene forge]

yes

it'll make you lose faster

and you can start a new run instead of endless garbage

[olive stirrup]

Thx

[red briar]

i think i might lose bro...

[tranquil oyster]

ride the bus not resetting on non-scoring face cards is hilarious. one of the many implicit pro-pairs mechanics of the game.

[willow frost]

no im right here dw

[red briar]

gurrr

do i take supernova and just spam pairs

[willow frost]

well actually nah i need to do work lol cya

[cloud sinew]

NO

[earnest pelican]

mmmm yummy voucher tags

[cloud sinew]

supernova is WORSE than bus because it's hard countered by Eye and it scales slower

[fiery nymph]

yeah i use this a lot

[ancient gyro]

you already have a mult scaler

[red briar]

im gonna looose

[fiery nymph]

if ur wondering they are talking about how you can play face cards but as long as they dont score its fine

[ancient gyro]

play the non straight ranks, keep ladder ranks in hand and count the cards needed to form a straight for runner

[cloud sinew]

this is why i like seeing debuff blinds with bus

because you can "score" the debuffed face and it won't reset bus

[lofty vault]

Could old man gerson boom solo the voliot vessel on gold stakes

[earnest pelican]

Only one whiff in all of those voucher tags, hell yeah

[fiery nymph]

i like seeing bus in general

[still current]

Hello

[cloud sinew]

i wasn't talking about seeing bus though

i was talking about seeing specific blinds when i already have bus

[red briar]

just playing straights

bleh

[cosmic sun]

Seeing bus be like

[fiery nymph]

yeah i know :(

[cosmic sun]

x2 mult if you play a non face card club and other suit

[still current]

I need your help guys, I want to play one last game before going to bed, which deck should I pick?

[cloud sinew]

painted

[lofty vault]

Seeing buss

[harsh relic]

zodiac

[tranquil oyster]

anagylph so you can go to sleep sooner

[lofty vault]

All

Don't go to sleep

[frank notch]

how did i win this run

[still current]

Let's go play all at the same time

[lofty vault]

Nuh uh

I'm taking your win

[fringe nebula]

you have bones

[lofty vault]

Mine

[fringe nebula]

ofcourse you win

[red briar]

i feel like i don't have enough mult

[frank notch]

i didnt even realize

i just scored enough to win

[lofty vault]

Negative bones is crazy

[ancient gyro]

r u not utilizing all of your hands every round?

[red briar]

i am

[ancient gyro]

or at least trying to

[red briar]

i just still don't have enough

[lofty vault]

Get more

[still current]

I found this screenshot in my galerie I want to share this pain😔

[ancient gyro]

what's runner at

[lofty vault]

Red card value

[brave goblet]

The punchline is always photochad

[red briar]

150

[tranquil oyster]

free hex

[ancient gyro]

that's decent

[limber nova]

ONE balatrillion dollars

[lofty vault]

500 cigarettes

[ancient gyro]

you could use some x mult soon

[limber nova]

i had a photochad blueprint run last night. was hilariously easy

[red briar]

rtb is at 45

[worthy tinsel]

funny

[lofty vault]

Average club suit player

[red briar]

yes i could use some xmult

82$ of reroll

[brave goblet]

man I rolled past so many moons too

[red briar]

i suppose acrobat solves that one

[lofty vault]

I'm talking about the discord role

[ancient gyro]

that's somewhat low given the ante you're at rn

[red briar]

i knowowwww

[lofty vault]

Have you considered not winning as much to scale it

[red briar]

it's hard

[lofty vault]

Just don't win

[brave goblet]

rearrang ejonkers

[ancient gyro]

we don't know how they've been pseudo discarding

[red briar]

is card sharp a good idea

[ancient gyro]

both are

[red briar]

what can i sell to get card sharp in

[ancient gyro]

over shortcut and burger

[lofty vault]

Sjarp car

[ancient gyro]

or shortcut and acro

[red briar]

i think i have a good chance at winning

[lofty vault]

Open the baffoon first tho

[ancient gyro]

as acro only procs once

yeah

[red briar]

i'll be fine regarless

no matter wat happens i still score enough with card sharp and acrobat to win

[lofty vault]

To be fair it's white stakes you don't need that much score

[wraith slate]

acro with burglar is just questionable lol

[lofty vault]

Just gotta burn 6 hands for it to trigger

[wraith slate]

I guess

[ancient gyro]

I preferably wouldn't pair acro and burger

[red briar]

i just got blueprint

gg

should i copy rtb

[lofty vault]

As a failsafe it's decent but I'd rather just send out random bullshit with literally any other xmult fella

[red briar]

or something like card sharp

[ancient gyro]

burger before blind starts

[lofty vault]

Burglar after blind starts

[ancient gyro]

don't copy anything to keep ramping up rtb and runner

[lofty vault]

What's step 2

[versed sable]

old screenshot of gold stake

[ancient gyro]

pepsi

[red briar]

i am on ante 8

[olive stirrup]

My best run ever, double trib and Brainstorm with god deck fixing but ran out of cards

[red briar]

i think a win is guaranteed

gg

[ancient gyro]

you don't really lose anything from scaling them regardless

[red briar]

good game

[humble gulch]

Sell diet cola and wraith

[ancient gyro]

but yeah if needed, shark copy is essentially an x9

[ancient gyro]

you didn't need to sell anything btw lol

[red briar]

eh

[lofty vault]

I got strawberry soda does that count

[red briar]

i like having my cards

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[lofty vault]

But I'm thirsty

[ancient gyro]

yeah but that boss doesn't do anything to you

[red briar]

regardless abandoned deck white stake completed

[ancient gyro]

scoring wise

[red briar]

that was kinda fun

[humble gulch]

Wraith could be anything, even another soda

[red briar]

i should go for red stake

[ancient gyro]

all of your scoring came from your jokers

[lofty vault]

Sure if there was a rare soda joker

[red briar]

i know thaat

[humble gulch]

I mean, I feel like Dr. Pepper would be pretty rare

[steady marten]

Should I use Ankh here? (ante 2)

[olive stirrup]

Any deck to try blue stake for the first time?

[lofty vault]

Dew it

[twin lantern]

"Score
At Least 40.000"

[wraith slate]

beating the head with a baron build is pretty fun

[red briar]

anything in this buffoon pack worth taking?

[lofty vault]

Did you score enough

[twin lantern]

yes

[humble gulch]

Red

[twin lantern]

i did

[slow iris]

arrowhead

[ancient gyro]

arrow

[lofty vault]

No they said blue stakes

[wraith slate]

sixth sense

[humble gulch]

Credit card

[red briar]

oh indeed

[olive stirrup]

I'd say 6 sense but it's up to you

[steady marten]

pls guys I need ur help

[lofty vault]

Blueprint

[humble gulch]

Deck

[red briar]

ante 1 joker stencil...

[lofty vault]

Yes

[slow iris]

nop

[red briar]

i think we're in

[wraith slate]

either is good

[steady marten]

Tough decision

[devout reef]

What’s the constellation at